/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Yeah they're great

>>11664349
They're the best.

>>11664349
That development when MC's imouto meets up with him at his school was painful

>>11664349

Good taste.

Are you the one that made those Tales threads?

>>11664374
Can't say I am.

no, I hate them. and everything else from japan.

>>11664371
I tried so hard to look under theirskirts while climbing ladders

yes, I like them. and everything else from japan.

i just wanna fug the cute girls

Is Demon's Souls Otaku Culture?

>>11664501
はい

>>11664501
no. it is mainstream and isn't niche.

>>11664501
No but I still like it

It does. I have been fond of Xenogears since a long time.

I just realised the last RPG I ever beat was Final Fantasy IX, I've played about another 50 since then but haven't beaten them.

>he still plays veedeehoo geeyms

>>11667066
Who are you greening?

>>11667066
Stop impersonating marmolewd, and you're in the wrong board for that.

does /jp/ like the jRPG generals in /vg/?

Too bad that I don't know jap. So many games can be available only for those who can comprehend kanji.

yes but janjan hates them so he'll probably delete the thread when he wakes up. I just finished final fantasy 5 and I think I'm going to start suikoden 2 next. everyone says it's great but I thought the first one was only 7/10 maybe so I hope it's more fun.

>>11664371
if I want to start this series should I play the one game that's on psp now or just wait for it to come out on pc? is it true that the goon faggots who were translating it aren't going to finish the whole thing?

Hell no, the story is mostly extremely dumb and inconsistent meta-shit. In the end you always fight a ,,god´´ because you're the best swordsman of the world, the chosen one and of course, you're a 14 years old stereotype hero who lost his parents - you want revenge ｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ

>>11667188
By the ninee divinees, what are you making up in your head, don't tell me you just came back from playing a JRPG you didn't like.

>>11667203
This was pretty much a summary of every JRPG.

>>11667150

If you want to start sora no kiseki, play the first chapter on pc. Then wait for the second chapter, which is being translated for some time in 2014. Do not skip games and avoid the internet because you will read spoilers and it will completely ruin the order of the games. These stories are very deliberate and I feel like they were written years before the games themselves came out. I tried playing them with minimal japanese proficiency and it was pretty hard. I was able to beat the games but I missed a lot of the details. You can learn a lot about the story by simply playing through and watching what happens but you don't really understand it.

xseed has the rights to the first three chapters of sora no kiseki but not to zero, ao, and sen no kiseki. Given the difficulty they experienced with the second chapter (they had to outsource to carpe fulgur) and the lack of sales they will receive by releasing a niche rpg on pc, I doubt they will continue translating the series, especially since the scripts keep growing larger. Falcom rpgs are basically visual novels with tacked on gameplay and more linearity.

It will be many years before I am ready but I still want to translate these games for everyone to enjoy.

Only JRPG I played is Dark Souls, and I like it very much because it is pretty much the deconstruction of what >>11667188 just said

I love turn based JRPGs. I'm currently playing DQ1

>>11667212
What games have you been playing, seriously.

>>11667212
Change jrpg on anime for better accuracy.

>>11667236
Of course only the best like the Final Fantasy or Tales Of series. These games are totally not annoying or something and very well made.

Yes but I lack the porper attention span to enjoy a large amount of them.

>>11667258
"Tales of" I can understand, but you have to understand too those are made for kids mostly.

>>11667258
How many layers of irony does this post contain?

>>11667301
All video games are made for children. What's your point?

No, because leveling up based on the number of enemies you defeat is a stupid mechanic.

>>11667216
is the first game already out in english for pc? I had heard it was coming out along with the second.

>>11667219
well Dark Souls is pretty much exactly like that guy described barring the 14 year old hero stereotype

>>11667150
Suikoden 1 was solid but not amazing. 2 is certainly a tearjerker though. They polished the battle system a bit too, and there's a lot more hidden stuff between playthroughs if you feel like looking. They put a lot more effort into the script, and a lot more love into the characters.

>>11667374
If you do something over and over, you get better at it.

guess janny is a jrpg fan

NES era JRPGs are fun, but Playstation on are boring and too cutscene heavy. Most of them are less interactive than a VN.

>>11668296
Why does beating someone with a flail make you a better spellcaster?

>>11668314
People with flails typically don't cast spells.

>>11668324

>>11667034
That's really weird

RPGs are for losers who sit in their mother's basement all day. No challenge and even a baby can beat one.

Xenogears was fantastic right up until the second disc. I still consider it a masterpiece though. It's impossible to not like SRPGS and JRPGs.

>>11672662
What poses a challenge for you?

All video games without VN elements go to >>>/vg/

Mods agreed.

>>11673323
untranslated video games also go here retard

>>11673323
JAPANESE role playing games, fkn dumbass

Going through some Tales of games right now. Got Tales of Vesperia on PS3 100% complete and the cameo bosses and costumes made me interested in the previous games. Just beat Tales of Phantasia FV edition on PSP and now going through Tales of Destiny Director's Cut.

I've been playing Riviera for the last few days. Great game. What kinda baffled me is that I have this concrete memory of completing the game once before but no other recollection whatsoever. Same thing happened with FE4 one week prior.

It would be very good if I could forget and play these game again in five years time.

Feelio when no good modern turnbased JRPGs.

If only ZUN!bar was here...

>>11674939
I don't even want JRPGs. I want to see more turn-based TRPGs.

>>11675286
You will never find a cuter TRPG girl.

>>11677041
False.

what's your played time in Dark Souls /jp/

Yes! I'm getting Bravery Default tomorrow morning.

>>11679011
On steam? 42 hours. In total? No clue. Probably over at least 80 hours but not that much above 100.

>>11679011
Over 300 hours.

>>11679011
2 hours.

>>11679011
0, because I don't play that piece of shit

>>11679011
like 60 or so across ps3 and pc
didn't buy it on pc so I can't tell you what my steam says

I'm stressing out over whether I can play suikoden 2 knowing that there's a time limited quest or just replay xenogears instead.

>>11679684
Just watch the Clive stuff on youtube. You'll never get it normally unless you rush.

Why aren't there more JRPGs on the PC?

I hate how blurry console games are. They look like garbage on any TV or monitor unless you stand 15 feet away from the screen. I just want clean and smooth lines with crisp textures that don't look like mud.

>>11679011
130 hours is not much by the way.

>>11679716
Do you even Emulators and good tv's?

>>11679727

Why would a different TV make a significant difference?

Sure, some TVs will let you display games at their native resolution without any upscaling, but 720p is so tiny that it will just look like a little box in the center of your screen and you will be squinting the entire time.

>>11679696
but he was one of my favorite characters from the first game and I would feel like I'm missing out by not doing it.

who Shadow Hearts here?

In addition to the fantastic graphics, sophisticated story and great characters, it was almost certainly the first RPG to have quicktime events, and one of the ONLY games to have ever done them well.

>>11679684
ok I started playing but I don't know if I'm going to make it. I'm going as fast as I can and I'm still an hour behind where the guide says I should be. who thought a quest like this was a good idea?

I only like SNES era JRPG and some GBC/GBA games, everything else after that is a snorefest of the highest degree.

>literally 4 discs of melodramatic bullshit

I haven't played a fun JRPG in a while. The main thing stopping me is I'm too lazy to get my darn emulators working ever since I changed computers. The last one I played was Valkyrie Profile. That game looked really interesting, but I only had played for maybe two or three hours into it total before my old computer died

I should really get them working again. I have a bunch of JRPGs that I always wanted to finish! Valkyrie Profile, Grandia 1, the Ar Tonelico series!

I don't know much about modern JRPGs, though. I can't recall any recent ones that I've been interested in

>>11680165
The fact that the Sacnoth/Nautilus is dead and the publisher that owns the rights now basically only focuses on pachislot makes me incredibly sad.

>>11680165
>it was almost certainly the first RPG to
have quicktime events

But that's a horrible thing!

>and one of the ONLY games to have ever done them well.

You have twelve seconds to explain yourself.

Skies of Arcadia anyone?

>>11688054
he probably means the timed hit mechanic. I'm bad at that kind of thing so I hate it.

>>11683264
blog update: it's taken me 11 and a half hours to get to the point where you visit the town from the first game. can I get to the end of the game 8 hours or less? I feel like I'm going to be an hour or two short.

No, because icycalm said JRPGs are the worst genre.

>>11688682
who said what
is he like zun!bar?

>>11688707
He's not 4chan related, icycalm is a critical video game reviewer and analyzer of video game culture.

His website culture.vg has plenty of great essays and reviews. (but you have to sign up to read the new reviews I think)

>>11688734
>but you have to sign up to read the new reviews I think
lmao

>>11688734
Nobody to take even half seriously I see.

>>11688741
Disregarding an entire review because of a rating?

Just as dumb as your average IGN reader.

>>11688765
I'm not going to sign up just to read a review I don't even care about. I don't need other people to make up my opinion for me. Most of his other ratings look like he just gives good or popular things bad ratings to come off as 'so critical, look at my unpopular opinions'.

>>11688769
Whatever you say, toolbox.

Attack the integrity of the site without any decency to at least read the oh-so-evil review that gives your favorite game a sub-par rating. I guarantee you're from /v/ or /vg/ or something.

>>11688765
>>11688769
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/critic/armond-white/movies.php

>>11688774
And I guarantee you're Icycalm or someone working for his website for so fervently defending him or his website.

I beat Final Fantasy VI last night. It was a lot of fun!

A few months ago I started playing SMT: Nocturne but I quit about half way because I thought it was too much work to fuse and grind for good demons. Which is sad because the story and atmosphere is great but I just don't like how much messing around is involved to learn higher tier spells and keep the party balanced

>>11688776
Not so much, there's many great thinkers on his website and it makes me very disappointed that people would thoughtlessly disregard the material. We cry for good writing in an age of corporate shills and bitch anyway when they don't adhere to our conclusions.

Not sure if it counts, but I was playing The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past yesterday. It was very fun until my emulator crashed and I lost all my progress.

>>11688780
It's not wrong to want a critic you agree with. I didn't listen to Roger Ebert because he often recommended movies I didn't like, and panned movies I did like.
Of course, sometimes you read negative reviews and you disagree with the author ("This actually sounds pretty good, I'll check it out.") but when a critic falls somewhere in between, then they're worthless to you.
If you agree 46% of the time and disagree 54% of the time, then you might as well flip a coin. Or better yet, find someone you'll consistently agree or disagree with so you respect their opinion: that's the point of critics and why we have no shortage of them.

I love Ys. My dick tells me to get Celceta, but my conscience tells me paying 180 american dollars for one game is overkill

>>11688780
If he wants his things to be read by people not personally involved with his website then he should remove the subscription (I just noticed it actually costs money (a ridiculous sum as well) and is not a free sign-up) restriction. Otherwise it turns into a circlejerk with people taken hostage by the required fee.

That said, traditional video games are a very shallow medium and criticism doesn't reach much farther than "I liked x because y" and "I disliked a because b". It boils down to opinions and if I don't agree with his then why would I concern myself further with them and him?

>>11688775
This doesn't work because plenty of popular games are reviewed very well or modestly on Icycalm's website.

Deus Ex
Devil May Cry 3-4
Grand Theft Auto 3 and 4 (There's no review for GTA3 but it's praised throughout many essays on the website)
SimCity
Batman 1989
Arcana Heart
Contra: Hard Corps
Half Life
Metal Slug
Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne
Max Payne and Max Payne 3
Serious Sam 3
Sid Meier's Civilization

The list goes on, try harder

>>11688796
>Nocturne
I thought he hated all jay arpeegees.

>>11688791
It has much more good games to play than just Celceta, dood, especially if you know Japanese. It helps if you don't have a PS3 or prefer your games to be portable like I do. Early 2014 alone looks fantastic with Demon Gaze, Danganronpa (although you may have played the PSP fantl) and Toukiden. I might look into Conception II as well but I don't know much about the game yet.

>>11688794
>That said, traditional video games are a very shallow medium and criticism doesn't reach much farther than "I liked x because y" and "I disliked a because b".

Yawn, don't play the self-hating consumer act when you're on a board that jacks off to STG girls and simulated idols. Try to have a little self respect.

Icycalm's favorite games are Halo, GTAVIII and Far Cry 2, that's all that needs to be really said.

>>11688813
Man I hope they give us Vice City in GTAIX.

>>11688813
I find this hard to believe Icycalm specifically said he would never replay GTA3 and Halo.

>>11688811
I'm not self-hating. I'm just not pretending like it takes any mental leaps to review video games, much less put it behind a ridiculous paywall and have people jerk you off after paying you money to read your mental vomit. You're making it pretty obvious that you're either him or someone who pays yearly to have access to his website.

http://postback.geedorah.com/foros/viewtopic.php?id=1643

Icycalm gets his shit pushed in hard here.

>>11688813
GTA 8?

>>11688821

>To make my position crystal clear, if given a choice between saving Far Cry 2 or the entire history of 2D games, the 2D stuff would all go in the trash without a second's hesitation

Icycalm actually posted this, you can stop jerking off to him now.

>>11688824
Actually read the rest of his post.

Icycalm is retarded and writes shitty articles that might have two paragraphs of content padded by three pages of dumb shit (and one of the paragraphs is wrong).

>>11688829
Why would you bother reading anything after that point?

>>11688833
Because I'm not a sheep that would take bits and pieces of post to make it purposely out of context to further my butthurt agenda?

Great, another thread ruined by /jp/ autism.

>>11664343
I've been frustrating my ass this whole morning trying to unlock the Armamentalist Class in DQIX. I swear to god I don't remember it being this hard at all, the last like 900 metal slimes have fled. I tried doing it with red hp only to get my party swept out when a bunch of monsters showed up with the slime. Then I gave up and threw my DS away.

So no, sorry OP, it might be bad timing, but atm I HATE JRPGs...

The only computer game review place I like is Hardcore Gaming 101. They're pretty cool.

>>11688835
>Because I'm not a sheep that would take bits and pieces of post to make it purposely out of context to further my butthurt agenda?
It's the first sentence. It provides it's own context. The rest of the post makes him look even dumber.

>>11688835

>not a sheep
>disregards what is posted and still clings to Icycalm's nuts

Your hero is a shitty critic and worships shit Western games as the height of aesthetic quality of the medium.

>>11688837
you mean by icycalm marketing his retarded website

>>11688841
That first sentence isn't the entirety of his post.

>>11688844
>Your hero is a shitty critic and worships shit Western games as the height of aesthetic quality of the medium.

Wrong because Icycalm has stated more gaming masterpieces come from Japan.

>>11688851
>That first sentence isn't the entirety of his post.
Most people would have stopped reading after that sentence because it was so profoundly retarded. The rest of them decided beforehand that Icycalm is their idol because there's really no reason to continue.

Do explain how the context makes it any less retarded, though.

>>11688851
>That first sentence isn't the entirety of his post.

But that's made his opinion crystal clear. You could stretch this out even further:
"Why, that was only one post! Try reading a whole review some time."
"What? You only read ONE review? You'll need to read at least ten before you can form a REAL opinion!"
"You've read his entire catalog of reviews? Well before you make any hasty judgements, his autobiography is coming out next week, and..."

If some nerd walked up to me and said, "My honest opinion is that white rice is better than brown rice." then I know his opinion is shit and I would not trust his rice reviews EVER.

Knock it off autists. No one wants to read your childish fight, there are more interesting discussions going on in this thread. Please fuck off to /b/.

>>11688855
>>11688858
Shut up.

>>11688872
icycalm status: utterly destroyed

>>11688863
like which one?

Icycalm stated that he is the only one that understands Nietzche writings, among other equally silly things.

He makes some good points ocasionally like any other writer, but if you take everything he says as a doctrine, then I feel sorry for you.

Even the people that once tolerated his eccentricities like Recap got tired of the guy.

>>11688900
PS- He is as cute as a kitty, though.

I beat Xenogears last night. God damn, there is so much stuff going on with the story and universe once you get near the end of the first disc. Was kinda hard to keep track of everything.

I really enjoyed it for the most part though. There were a couple dungeons that were really annoying, and a few of the boss fight sequences were really fucking dumb, but overall it was a great game. I'm about to start Xenoblade.

No, real RPGs are better.

Yes I do.

I loved DarkSouls, Persona 4, and Earthbound.

>>11689841
comprehensive list of good wrpgs:

>>11689846
Fallout 3 and New Vegas.

>>11689846
I think his point was that tabletop games are better than videogames marketted as "RPG" because you get to pick which stat you increase when you level up.

>>11689855
Oh right. I'll give you that if you like those games.

>>11689851
lol im a 90s kid too :)

>>11689846
Might and Magic
Wizardry


(ching chong games better than these)
(lol)

>>11689846

There aren't any good 3D RPGs. Doing combat in games like Fallout or Skyrim is just math. It isn't fun to hit enemies with a sword 50-60 times. People want their attacks to feel powerful and they don't that way.

>>11689872
It's funny because Wizardry is highly popular in Japan

>>11689872
The Japanese Wizardry games are better

>>11689869
Cool. What are your favorite WRPGs?

>>11689882
i like fallout 3 very much but i prefer skyrim. fus-ro-dah!!! ^^

>>11689886

Skyrim had a great world but sucked for the reason detailed in >>11689874.

>>11689869
on the other hand, dungeon crawler/2d wrpgfags are mentally still stuck in the early 90s

>>11689906
Probably because RPGs didn't improve since the late 90s outside of the technical aspect.

At what point did roleplaying games stop being about role playing (with a rule-based prevention for the conceptual problems that plague 'freeform' role playing, like players always wanting their characters to perform extremely well, in the form of stat and difficulty check systems) and start being about whacking monsters hundreds of times with legendary weapons?

>>11689921
>At what point did roleplaying games stop being about role playing (with a rule-based prevention for the conceptual problems that plague 'freeform' role playing, like players always wanting their characters to perform extremely well, in the form of stat and difficulty check systems) and start being about whacking monsters hundreds of times with legendary weapons?

The very nature of video games makes it a tricky balance to achieve because some people very much like that Disgaea-style hypergrind, and some people like story driven games but don't like the particular story the game is driven by, and a lot of little details like that

Personally, I just play pen and paper roleplaying games. They're a lot more neato if you want story driven games. If I want more intricate and interesting gameplay, I play RPGs well strictly speaking I don't really play RPGs anymore because I find the gameplay of other genres of games more compelling, but you know what I mean; freedom of design in pen and paper vs linearity and polish in video games

>>11689944
Before I mouse over that spoiler, what RPG does it spoil?

>>11689952
The game of >>11689944's life.

>>11689952

None, it's an irrelevant comment disguised in a surprise box because it has no bearing on the main point of my post and also specifically to annoy you

>>11689944

Please make it less obvious that you're from /v/. Inaccurate and dumb opinions about video games and meme boxes tipped me off.

>>11689970

Would you like to explain why my opinions are inaccurate and dumb, or are you just applying those adjectives because you don't like me for SURPRISE!!!ing you

>>11689979

I don't really feel like it?

Basically you're wrong about a lot of things that aren't as easy to explain as "2 + 2 doesn't = 8, retard" plus /v/ extradites are always really entrenched in their dumb opinions that have ran unopposed in their dumb baby heads for too long.

>>11689983
>I don't really feel like it?

Oh, okay. Well, it was nice talking to you anyway

>>11674939
Bravely Default

>>11688682
Yet, he has banner of Persona and Pandora's Tower on his site.

>>11688741
>>11688765
That Tactics Ogre review is just a repost from another site.
http://www.tbstactics.com/2011/10/tactics-ogre-let-us-cling-together-psp.html

>>11688807
Another repost. He has quite a few stuff from Scathing Accuracy on his site.
http://scathingaccuracy.com/reviews/181-shin-megami-tensei-nocturne

Just got The World Ends With You for the second time

>>11679022
>Bravery Default
i was gonna get it, but then i found out the european release is censored
gay

How are the Atelier games? I just got a PS3 and I'm interested in them and Valkyria Chronicles

/jp/ still likes dungeon crawlers, right?

>>11690288
fun and relaxing but they have time constraints

If only ZUN!bar was here...

I agree on everything Anthony has said regarding RPGs, but his words weren't exactly a revelation to me. He just put my thoughts into words, really.

Though whether or not I agree with him or not, it doesn't really matter. What I appreciate is that he isn't afraid to say what he actually thinks. Maybe I was just too young to remember, but the internet did not have this kind of allegiance to holding a single consensus for any topic. Isn't that what everyone was trying to escape by coming online years ago? You weren't allowed to say anything that was to out of line in the real world unless you wanted to be excluded or sent to a mental institution.

The upvote/downvote thing of opinions in the last few years is a clear reflection of the internet's devolution. It's just as bad as the real world, just almost. When anonymous posting is completely outlawed in a decade then there will truly be no place to run. I implore you to consider my view and not get angry at somebody because you don't like what they are saying.

>>11690288
Great and fun d00d. They released them on Vita as well.

>>11664343
I fucking love Xenogears.

Probably my favorite JRPG of all time, second disc and all.

>>11696342
It was a fantastic game and a masterpiece but that second disc was shit. Thankfully the first disc literally carried the game into being a classic and one of the best jrpgs of all time.

>Possible spoiler ahead

I have only played through the game twice (1999 and 2005) isn't there a scene where Fei and Elly frig?

>>11696726
They don't state it flat out, but it's heavily implied.

Like, really heavily.

help me /jp/ I'm having a panic attack here. I'm pretty far into suikoden 2 now and I think I'm going to make the time limit for clive, but I just found out I missed a flag for a different scene. I watched the first scene where flik and his stalker are talking on the castle roof but then I reloaded to save time because I didn't know it led to a second event.

why is this happening to me? I just want to take it easy but the game is stressing me out more than taking exams when I was in school.

>>11677041

rachel is cuter

I fucking love jrpgs.
Last rpgs I did were Sen no Kiseki and Dugeon Travelers 2, now I'm starting Bravely Default

Most of the jrpgs I play these days are on portable it seems

Did someone say Persona?

.

..

>>11697310
No, no one did.
I'm worried about you, anon.

>>11696738

Are you sure "waking up naked in bed together" is only "implied"?

My little Anon can't be this innocent!

>>11697372
You seem a little upset.

>>11697310

>>11697413

>>11697413

Wait, how did Nanako grow up so quickly? I haven't played P4A, but even then, how would this work?

I mean, damn, she got cute. Really cute.

>>11697413
>>11697427
>>11698261
This isn't a persona thread, take it to /a/, /v/, or /vg/, because I am sure that horrible series already has threads on at least one of them.

>>11698276

I just asked a question, I don't plan on discussing it any more than that, or making any more posts about it. I was just curious.

Maybe you'd like to talk about Breath of Fire games with me?

Oh god. When Square isn't busy making terrible games they are butchering classics.

Final Fantasy VI in my opinion had the best sprite and background work of the 16-bit era and it stills looks beautiful to this day. Did they really have to do this?

http://www.siliconera.com/2013/12/03/final-fantasy-vi-coming-ios-android-winter-heres-looks-vs-snes-game/

What are some good 7th gen JRPGs (PS3, Vita, 3DS) that aren't just moe pandering fanservice and are actually good? Japanese only is fine I suppose since I'm trying to learn it.

>>11697033
I really want to play Suikoden 2 but its rare and expensive as hell. I might end up buying it as a Christmas as a gift for myself. I really liked the first Suikoden.

>>11697196

>Most of the jrpgs I play these days are on portable it seems

That seems to have been the trend starting in 6th gen. I don't mind it honestly, I might actually prefer it because I like being able to take handhelds to the bathroom and into my bed. Maybe if my couch was comfier I would feel different

>>11700046

I might be, and probably am wrong, but aren't the Suikoden games on PSN? I know that it's not the same, though, I prefer owning physical original copies too.

>>11700042
The best SRPG for this generation (and one of my top five games for this generation) I would say was Valkyrie Chronicles for the PS3. It was basically the first critically acclaimed for the PS3 when it came out five years ago and was just fantastic.

Tales of Graces for the PS3 was a lot of fun as well.

>>11700042
Tales of Innocence R and Tales of Hearts R

>>11700057
Judging from these desperate comments I am going to say no.

http://us.playstation.com/games/suikoden-2-ps.html#reviewFrame

>>11698276
horrible series? well.. that was a bad joke anon.. pls try harder

New Tales in 1 hour and 18 minutes.

>>11700042
NieR

>>11700217
Goddamn
That game man

>>11700086
It does suck through.

>>11668350
I don't attack with white mages though.

Cutie spear girl is new Tales heroine. I approve.

>>11700042
End of Eternity
Ys Celceta
Shit Megagay IV

Persona Q is going to be fun

>>11690284
Fuck, I was about to play it, too. What did they censor?

>>11700234
Why are you so mad at the Persona series? Don't tell me it is because it attracts casuals.

>>11700486
nah hes just trying be a troll

Nobody talking about SaGa series. Popular in Japan, however Unlimited was very poorly received and was the last game of the series so far.

Yeah, the Final Fantasy Legend Games the /vr/ boarders clamor so much about were originally the SaGa series.

>>11700394
looks like shit
I'd rather they make more EO games

>>11700397
a bikini outfit and a dress made out of belts

>>11700397

Changed a bikini into spats and a tank top. Something else as well, some dialogue involving boobs I think. Think Tharja's 'wavy hair' from FE:A.

I've been playing Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth recently on the PSP.
I don't know what the hell is going on.
The battle system, even though it appears simple, is really confusing.
Barely any info is given too. For example, what exactly happens if I don't offer my spoils of war to Odin? Hell, what happens if I do? What do all of the stats mean and which are even important? Should I just dump my CP into the positive traits of my party members? What's the point of the negative traits?
Also the game expects me to just readily train and then hand over some of my party members within a certain number of turns possibly never to be seen again. On top of all that I'm thrown into a "hey the world's gonna end if you're not quick/efficient enough at playing this game" at you a la Majora's Mask, except (to my knowledge) you can't turn back time.

I do adore this game though even if I suck horribly at it. It's pretty intense and fun.

>>11700821
Probably the best jrpg of the generation if you don't count remakes

>>11700848
I'm playing it right now. I didn't expect much from it, just going by what I had seen, but damn is this game a ton of fun. And the characters are great too.

Riki is so cute.

>>11700962

What game? Google only found somebody's avatar.

>>11667034
I'm the same way, sort of.

I've played substantially more RPG's than I've beaten.

The last one was Persona 4, summer of 2012, and even then I only got the ending where you fight the fog eyeball or whatever.

>>11700234
Only P1 and P4.

>>11700982
I'm treading lightly, because it's a touchy subject for some Fatlus fans, but I think if P4 just had a better story, it would be way more popular. I'd compare it to FF9 in that sense.

>>11700992

>but I think if P4 just had a better story, it would be way more popular.

What? P4 is the most popular Persona game by a longshot. Do you mean better?

>>11701040
Amoung Atlas fans.

>>11700969
Xenoblade.

>>11701125

Oh I see, I actually ordered that the other day.

>>11701128
It's pretty great. The world is massive and you get to explore all of it, and it's actually filled with things to do and places to see rather than just dumping you into a big world with nothing in it. The battle system is also fast paced and really fun, and the music is top notch.

Only real complaint I have with the game is that the sidequests could be more interesting. Apparently there's almost 500 sidequests in the game, but from what I'm seeing most of them end up being along the lines of "kill X amount of monsters" or "gather X amount of items," which is kinda lame. At least you don't have to return to the quest giver when you finish 90% of the time and quests usually get completed as you go through the game.

Still, I'd be okay with having less sidequests in exchange for more interesting ones.

>>11701118
More well-received by the "trve gamers"

>>11701125
Hey buddy you wanna back the fuc*k off?? That's my girl you posted.

>>11701150
I don't want her anyways. I want a Riki to hug.

>>11701150
>*grabs him by the throat*
>BACK THE FUCK OFF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

>>11701150
That's how I run around with your girl. What you gonna do about it fuckface

>>11701188
>What you gonna do about it fuckface

pal 3ds or psvita, which one should I buy, /jp/?

>>11701223
either import a ntsc 3ds or don't bother with the system
vita is nice either way because it's not region locked

>>11701223
>>11701224
I was not aware 3ds can play TV broadcasts.

>>11701250
They're just wrongly used terms to describe NA/EU/JP region locked 3DS devices. It's funny because those technologies are as ancient and outdated as Nintendo itself.

>>11701224
Does the ntsc version have more games than the pal one?
Which one between vita and 3ds has more games?
I can't afford to buy both of them so I want to be sure the one I'll buy has a vast selection of jrpg to play compared to the other console.

>>11701250
Psh, even the DS could do that.

>>11701273
It has more, they're cheaper and it gets them faster while Euros usually have to wait multiple months if not a year or more for publishers to get off their asses and publish the games in Europe.

Vita vs 3DS is a taste thing.

I enjoy my Vita more than my 3DS and I'd say they're about equal with games but many people will disagree. I don't enjoy Mario games of any kind or life sims like Animal Crossing so I pretty much only have JRPGs for it.
Out of the ones I have I'd say Fire Emblem Awakening, Etrian Odyssey 4 (and to some extent Untold), SMT4 and soon Bravely Default are the best titles.
The 3DS' hardware, interface and online infrastructure are pathetic and archaic.

Vita is a great purchase if you don't have a PS3 because it has a few good (enhanced) ports like the Arland trilogy (Atelier games), Disgaea 3 & 4 and Persona 4 Golden. It'll soon get Demon Gaze, FFX/X-2HD and the first two Neptunia game remakes are also likely to be localized.
It also has a ton of untranslated VNs and anime series' games if you're into those and/or know Japanese.
I also enjoy hunting games that don't look and play like shit so Soul Sacrifice, Toukiden and God Eater 2 have all been much more enjoyable to play than MH3U. And the console isn't region locked so there's no problem with importing games from Japan or anywhere else. The screen and res are leagues ahead of the 400x240 mess that's on the 3DS and the touch part of it is capacitive and not resistive.

From a pure JRPG perspective the 3DS probably has more games right now but early 2014 is looking really good for the Vita while things are looking rather bleak for the 3DS but honestly, neither of the two have vast JRPG libraries at the moment.

>>11701315
Thank you for replying.
Anyway I don't care about Mario or such games as well, I always buy a new console for jrpg only.
FE, Bravely, SMT IV, Devil Hackers, Etrian Odyssey are the indeed the main 3ds titles I was thinking about, while the psvita for now has Demon Gaze, the Curry God, Muramasa and Ys.
I own a ps3 and I've already played all the Neptunia and Atelier games so I wasn't couting them in.
The point is, I'm unsure about the future releases and I don't know if it's sage to bet on the psvita, which has been lacking so far.

>>11701336
>The point is, I'm unsure about the future releases and I don't know if it's sage to bet on the psvita, which has been lacking so far.
Well, I don't know a single JRPG coming for the 3DS in 2014 that isn't Bravely Default or DeSu2. It seems like they shot their load in 2013 with those admittedly pretty good games and now there's not that much.

>>11701336
Not the same guy, but the Vita also allows you to play a rather large collection of PS1 and PSP games, so if there's any JRPGs from the previous gens you've missed out on it might be worth factoring this. Sprite based games actually upscale really well because the Vita's resolution is exactly double the PSP's and you can disable filtering.

Is there any reason you couldn't get a 3DS now and buy a Vita further down the line when the Vita's library has fattened up a bit, if that's what's concerning you? Though there might already be more available than you think.

>>11701406
I have a psp for that, so I was looking for new games.
I could buy one of them someday, but I was wondering what to buy now, I guess I'll try buying a ntsc 3ds.

I wish they would make more magic World War II settings, like Valkyria Chronicles.

>>11701541
It's all about what you want to play really. 2014 looks pretty shitty for the 3DS so far and games like FE:A and SMT4 are good games but mediocre new titles in their series.

About buying a NA 3DS you have to understand that you'll need to import every single game you're going to buy or get them digitally but Nintendo's account system (or lack thereof) is extremely dodgy and as they don't sell their prepaid cards digitally you'll have to pay even more to get the cards.

"Most pedofiles using the NTSC standard, as well as those using other analog television standards, are switching to newer digital television standards"
Pedofiles
What?

>>11701541
Look for a 3DS that's still on 4.5 and buy a Gateway. No more region lock to worry about.

>>11701573
I thought Gateway still couldn't circumvent region lock?

>>11701787
They got around that months ago. I've played a bunch of Jap games on my US 3DS. As far as I know, the only thing they don't have working yet is games that use NAND saves (Pokemon and Animal Crossing).

I bought a 3DS to play Bravely Default like two years ago, and I'm still waiting. God damn it, NoA. Why is this shit coming out two months later in America than everywhere else?

>>11701938
Shut up and be happy that you get literally everything else worth noting months if not years later.

>>11701946
Nintendo has been releasing majority of their games in Europe several months earlier than in NA, not to mention there are plenty of Europe only releases for a lot of different games. Hell, people had to throw a shitstorm just to get Xenoblade released in America, and it ended up being some shitty Gamestop only deal which inflated the prices super high for no reason.

And it's silly in this case, since BD has a bunch of different selectable languages. People in JAPAN can play the game in English before America gets to play it at all. It doesn't make any sense. And this is Nintendo we're talking about, not some smaller publisher that might have difficulties publishing in multiple regions.

>>11701963
I was talking about the 3DS and Amerilards are all too happy to bring up Xenoblade every time the discussion comes up. The Wii is de facto not region locked because it's hilariously easy to circumvent. That's if you even want to get the game legally because piracy or even emulation on the Wii is no problem at all.

Meanwhile Europoors get to wait months for games like FE:A, EO4, EOU, SH and years for games like DeSuO and SMT4. Not to mention that all this shit is 50% more expensive in Europe.

And then one fucking game comes out two months earlier in Europe and entitled Americans throw hissy fits about how everyone hates them. Get your head out of your ass and enjoy the superior position you're in games-wise.

>>11701977
>Amerilards are all too happy to bring up Xenoblade every time the discussion comes up
I could list off a ton of other Europe only/early release games if you'd like. Xenoblade is just the best example.
>The Wii is de facto not region locked because it's hilariously easy to circumvent. That's if you even want to get the game legally because piracy or even emulation on the Wii is no problem at all.
People shouldn't have to resort to such means just to play a game that they would like to play. Not everyone has computers good enough to emulate more modern game systems, not everyone knows or wants to fuck with their systems to illegally play something. Some of us are collectors and like to buy things they enjoy. And even in this case it doesn't help, since there are no 3DS emulators, and the system is region locked. The only way around it is to buy some shitty flashcard that isn't worth it at all.
>Meanwhile Europoors get to wait months for games like FE:A, EO4, EOU, SH and years for games like DeSuO and SMT4
Again, Europe also gets plenty of games earlier than America. And in the case of Etrian Odyssey and SMT and junk, isn't that shit up to Ghostlight? Maybe they should stop being incompetent.

>And then one fucking game comes out two months earlier in Europe and entitled Americans throw hissy fits about how everyone hates them
Don't put words into other peoples mouths. I've not said anything of the sort. I'm merely confused as to why BD has been released in Europe, Australia, and Japan, yet is getting a two month delayed release in America. What reason could there possibly be for NoA to release the game two months later than everywhere else? I don't understand.

I normally don't even give a shit, waiting a couple months has never been a huge issue EVER, but I've been waiting to play this game for so long that having to wait another two months is incredibly shitty. Do not get so up in arms just because someone has expressed their discontent.

>>11702020
>Do not get so up in arms just because someone has expressed their discontent.
It's a touchy topic with me because I have to jump through hoops just to play video games because Nintendo is a terrible company that region locks their systems out of greed.
I'm not going to comment on the rest anymore because you obviously don't understand this problem properly because you're too pampered by timely releases in NA.

>>11701938
Isn't the US version the updated version that is being released in Japan this month?

>>11702048
>It's a touchy topic with me because I have to jump through hoops just to play video games because Nintendo is a terrible company that region locks their systems out of greed.
I agree, region locking is really terrible for consumers. I don't think it should be a thing at all.
>I'm not going to comment on the rest anymore because you obviously don't understand this problem properly because you're too pampered by timely releases in NA
I understand completely. Don't act so butthurt. If you look at my original post you'll notice that I never mentioned any specific region. I'm not going "fuck Europe for getting BD early," I'm going "what the fuck is NoA doing?"

Don't lash out at other people just for being dissatisfied.

>>11702059
It's the same game in every region. Europe and Australia got the updated version too, which was just released in those places.

>>11702081
Did they censor the updated version in Japan, too?

>>11702020
Half of the games I had on my Snes were american simply because absolutely nothing got brought in europe.
That mean no FF whatsoever, first Final Fantasy in europe was FF7.
No Chrono Trigger, no Super Mario RPG, no Earthbound.
Fuck making a list would takes age

>>11700638
there are two ratings that determine which ending you get. one basically says how well you're doing your job. it goes up when you send qualified characters and goes down when you keep artifacts for yourself. the other is like a loyalty rating that goes down when you send characters and up when you see certain events. it's pretty complicated so you should use a guide if you want the good ending.

traits only matter for characters you're going to send. if you want to use a character in your party you should use cp on skills. get ones that increase attack and max the guts skill as soon as you find it.

>>11702095
Nope. You can play the game uncensored and in English if you have the means of playing the Japanese version of the game.

>>11702097
Europe got Terranigma, though. Better game than either of those.

>>11702102
You just made my day, thanks.

>>11702117
Thank god for selectable languages, right?

>>11702101
Do I HAVE to send characters by the time the period ends, or does it just affect the ending? I'd much prefer to take it easy without stressing about my character's hero levels or which character I have to sacrifice next.

>>11702048

>It's a touchy topic with me because I have to jump through hoops just to play video games because Nintendo is a terrible company that region locks their systems out of greed.

I wish it was only a physical lockout, like the super nintendo. On that you just have to rip out two tabs in the cartridge slot. Also, wasn't every handheld prior to the 3DS not region locked? What the hell Nintendo.

>>11702508
I think it was just the NDS that wasn't locked and that's only as far as the DSi because that one was locked again.

>>11702508
DSi was region-locked, all the prior handhelds weren't. Fuckers.

>>11702511
Every Nintendo handheld before the DSi had no region locking. And even on the DSi it wasn't really a problem. Could play DS games from any region, only DSi exclusive games were region locked. DS games are actually region free on 3DS too.

>>11702530
I don't enjoy trying to decipher kanji on a 400x240 screen

Why you guys buy English released games in the first place, especially in the internet age? Do you enjoy getting games a year after their original release?

>>11702536
Most games don't use kanji.

>>11702538
It'd be cool if that were true.

>>11702541
Like you would even know.

>>11702538
Maybe not the mario and autism crossing shit that you like to play.
Don't you have anything better to do than laugh at EOPs? Why don't you make another thread celebrating being able to read third rate literature like Muramasa?

>>11702547
I would. I played Rune Factory 4, New Love Plus (for a while until I got bored of it), Senran Kagura Burst, and recently started on SMT4 in Japanese. They all have kanji.

>>11702555
Wow, 4 games.

>>11702552
Could you please stop projecting.

>>11702557
That's four more than you.

>>11702562
Whatever helps you slow kids sleep at night.

>>11702563
Hit the nail on the head, huh.

>>11702574
Just please don't project so hard Mr. Edison. I don't care about your kiddie games.

>>11702538
Great trolling.

Even pokemon uses kanji now. Maybe if the games you are talking about are games from the 90s made for younger audiences like pokemon, mother, or mario, you would be right, but any even relatively new RPG be using a decent amount of kanji.

>>11702129
if your one rating drops to 0 freya yells at you and you get the bad ending. otherwise it's not really important. the rating on lenneth's stats screen is the important one for getting the good ending and you have to do pretty specific things to get it high enough.

you don't really need to worry about time periods. you get so many that even after you recruit every character and do every new dungeon you'll have to skip some to get to the next phase. grinding isn't so important either. if you need to level a character up for sending or whatever you can use the exp orb which you fill up by exploring dungeons. if you want to level your entire party up the best way is to use that one item that turns enemies into crystals. if you go into that cave of whatever dungeon sometimes it will have enemies from the end of the game and you can use the item to kill them for tons of exp.

Am I the only one who thinks that Rune Factory 4 isn't as good as 3?

>>11703233
Eh, they both have their strong points, but as a whole I liked RF4 better personally. I also liked Oceans, though, so maybe I just have shitty taste.

Is Tales of Innocence worthwhile? I just remembered I downloaded it a few years ago and never got around to playing it.

>>11703836
I thought it was nice. The dungeons were short and boring but the story and characters were interesting. The combat was fun too, but if you've played Radiant Mythology and didn't like the combat you might not like it here either.

>>11702515
Only downloadable software was region specific.

>>11703233
No.

What are you playing today?

Turn based JRPG's are my favorite genre, I can't stand button mashy action rpgs like tales. I also can't stand medieval type settings at all and refuse to play anything set in them.

So basically I only play SMT.

>>11713700

>>11713700
Tales of Innocence. It's really grindy and the encounter rate is too high. All the characters are utterly retarded, Luca is the biggest fucking loser on the planet, and Iria is annoying as hell as is her stupid rat thing. The story is cliche garbage that I can't bring myself to care about. My right thumb keeps cramping up from all this goddamn button mashing (granted, that's mostly because of the piss-poor ergonomics of the DS).

Why am I still playing this game? Were all the Tales games this shitty and I'm just remembering them as being better than they actually were?

>>11713830
No, this one is shittier than usual.
It was remade completely for the Vita but it's still pretty mediocre.
Get Hearts on the DS, it's a lot better and the remake Hearts R on the Vita is downright one of the best Tales ever

>>11713700
>There will never be a Wild Arms 2 remake or a Wild Arms 6.

>>11713842
Sadly I don't have a Vita and have no plans to get one until piracy is possible. And my Japanese still sucks so I'll have to wait anyway.

>>11713700

The new Ys and Rune Factory 4.

>>11713700
I dont even like JRPGs really (turn based combat was never my thing, and random encounters always annoyed me more than anything else.), but reading this thread has really made me want to play Xenogears so I'll probably try that. Unfortunately my normal JRPG habit is to play them for about 3 hours and then forget about it.

well I finally finished suikoden 2. is the 3rd game good too? I heard the 4th and 5th ones suck which is too bad since they finally made jeane playable.

>>11714336
Xenogears is pretty long (70 hours to complete the game with some side stuff done) but its well worth the commitment. Some of the boss battles in the gears can become really annoying though.

>>11715790
From what I remember hearing it sort of peaked with Suikoden 2. I finally ended up buying a copy from a friend (he still charged me a lot) and I am about six hours in. Really digging it.

>>11715790
4 is the only one you should dread playing. 3 and 5 are both solid.

I completely forgot that Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Millennium Girl (heck of a title huh) came out back in October. From what I understand it's basically just a retelling/remake of the first EO? Has anyone played it yet?

>>11664343
>At least another week until this arrives

>>11717926

Yes. It benefits hugely from the improvements of later games, and they also tweaked and changed the labyrinth a fair bit. Is good.

>>11717939
I had no idea it was so close to release.

Sold out on amiami for now too. Damn.

>>11717939
>>11717949
You fags ready for despair?

>>11717942
I might buy it sometime this week. I still need to finish Etrian Odyssey IV and Fire Emblem Awakening by the end of the year.

Just finished Ar Tonelico 2 a few moments ago. The last area was really tedious but the final boss made up for it. God damn, the music in these games are so fucking good. Cloche best Reyvateil
Going to speed through AT3 next so I can build up hype for Ar no Surge. Also debating on importing the limited edition of Ar no Surge for that orgel that it comes with.

>>11718115
I like the new lancer girl in Tales of Zestiria, she is super cute.

When are they going to make a new Front Mission that isn't shit?

;_;

I wish I were really into video games - they look so fun but I usually end up buying them and only playing for a few hours if they're single player.

Not an RPG but I got ZOE2 a while ago after having putting off purchasing it for literally about 10 years (I played ZOE on PS2 release). I found it so repetitive and the controls so frustrating in cramped areas that I just had to put it down. ;_; I like the music and the characters though.

forgot picture

>>11718878
2nd Runner/Anubis is one of my favorite PS2 games, I've lost count of how many times I've completed it. How far did you get before you gave up?

Ken is a real cutie. Can't speak for the ENG version, but I could listen to her JP voice all day.

>>11718934
First encounter with Leo... so not that far.

Maybe I'll try again. The HD TV in my apartment displays the output from the PS2 really badly which is the most frustrating thing really, especially since the TV is small to begin with.

I wonder how recent HDTVs and 4Ks handle low res output from old consoles.

>>11718945
>First encounter with Leo... so not that far.

Yeah, I'd try again if I were you. Deimos is pretty much the low point of the game, all things considered. The game does a pretty good job at mixing things up as you go along even though the basic mechanics remain constant throughout.

Not much to be done about the TV, but I guess you could look into buying the HD version if you've got a PS3 or 360. I've heard they aren't without their faults, though.

>>11718970
Apparantly the PS3 version was fixed with a patch. I got the PS2 version since it's pretty cheap here and I already had a Japanese PS2 that someone gave me.

Maybe I should just take the plunge and buy a PS3 to get back into gaming...

>285 posts
>Ctrl+F "Drakengard"
>0 results.

Really is /jp/ not hyped for this?
http://youtu.be/sB2bUnVAS1w

>>11719030
i just wanna fug zero

>>11719027
I'd say go for it. Plenty of games for it that deserve a playthrough or two.

Also, a little thing that you probably know already: Whenever ADA says something out of a cutscene (like the generic messages you get when you defeat an enemy, pick up metatron, fall below 50% health, charging the Vector Cannon etc.) you can press L3 (positive) or R3 (negative) while she's still talking and Dingo will respond accordingly.

If you do it during the part where Ken rides with you in Jehuty's cockpit there's a chance that she'll add her own interjection on top of that, too.

>>11719032
me too anon,
me too

FF6 is the best JRPG

>>11719097
FFVI is mediocre in most ways. Has to be one of the most overrated games of all time.

Yesterday I went to a garage sale and got a like new copy of Wild Arms (manual and everything included, perfect condition aside from a little dust on the disc and the price sticker on the jewel case)for five bucks. How good of a find was this?

>>11719030
Drakengard wasn't really a jrpg... but Nier is The best PS3 game for me and probably also best story driven game of all time. But since Cavia is over what are they planning to do about drakengard 3? From first glance it looks like remake of 1 with girl protag?

>>11664343
I was the beta (or, more beta, possibly gamma?)
of the brothers in my family, and I always had
to watch instead of play.

Now that I'm older and not a helpless 8 year old
fighting over who gets the PS1, can anyone
recommend some good games to
emulate? Im sick of lame-ass americanized
rpgs

Really enjoy Phantom brave, fire emblem, or
tactical anime rpgs

>>11719459
Prequel to 1, I think

>>11719462
Have you played the Persona 2 duology yet? They're excellent. EP is the weaker of the two and Maya just does not work as a silent protagonist, but IS is far and away the high point of the series.

>>11719472
The only persona game I've played was P4 arena,
and from what i can tell its much different than the
other persona games being that its not an rpg. but
i will definitely give it a try, thanks

>>11719481
It's so much different from P4 that if not for the title you could very easily convince someone that it's an entirely different series. Don't expect fun highschool friendship time because that is not what you're getting. Final boss is absolutely crazy, but don't play the PSP port because it was censored. It's a pretty hilarious censor so look it up when you're done. IS never got an official localisation but there's a fan translation out there that was actually endorsed by Atlus. Unfortunately I don't know many other PS1 JRPGs because I grew up with an N64, but P2 is essential.

>>11719030

Probably because it's not even out yet. I plan on preordering it once I get some money, but until I get it in January or February, whenever it's getting released, I don't really have much to say about it.

>>11719492

>but don't play the PSP port because it was censored

Wasn't the PS1 version also censored? And are the improved gameplay elements that negligible?

>>11719518
I'd take everything he says with a grain of salt anyway because he sounds like a zealot.

>>11719518
The gameplay's still kinda clunky, but less so in the PSP version. It's not awful, but it definitely takes some getting used to.

>>11664343
I hate them. I hate you too. Kill yourself.

You know, there is one thing I hate about JRPGs. They spend so much time catering to waifufags while husbandofags still don't get jack shit. It's almost 2014, throw me a bone here for crying out loud.

>>11720388
fuken gays need to die

>>11720388
https://fuuka.warosu.org/data/jp/img/0116/54/1385473607658.gif

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201312/19045304.html

Falcom getting busy in 2014

I finished Xenoblade last night. It had a nice ending.

I want to play through all three Xenosaga games, but I don't have a copy of the third game and I don't have any money to buy it...