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>>11653211
>-36 Hours Remain-
Time to panic.

36 hours of not sleeping, farming DD and spamming suicide fleets at E-4 to chip the boss down to 0
and then PRAY to get a kill

>>11653219
>>11653219
6 BB fully equipped with sanshiki and 46cm tripple cannon
line ahead
no retreat

Do you guys like grimdark?

>>11653237
Yes.

>>11653237
No

>>11653237
Make a strawpoll if you want a definitive answer.

>>11653237

maybe.

>>11653237
Ask another time

>>11653237
I still want TLs of that Murakumo doujin.

E-7 is taking more resources than the event itself by this rate.

>>11653258
This one?

>>11653275
With E-6 and E-7 combined, I'm past that point. Unfortunately, no Hatsukaze or Yahagi to show for.

>>11653237
Source?

That single submarine on the 5-3 boss keeps on blowing my chance to complete the stage.

I can't destroy it even though I used the last formation + support fleet.

This node with this enemy composition. I think I've gotten past this fleet without a red less than half of the times.

>>11653289
Yep, that one.

Dying by torpedo is so disgustingly common in doujins even. Well it is certainly a better mechanic for killing someone than a sudden explosion from a shell.

This node with this enemy composition. I think I've gotten past this fleet without a kanmusu in red, less than half of the times.

>>11653300
Do you sparkle? I usually get past it no problem.

Anyone from the Brunei server? How are you doing?

>>11653300
Sparkle your ships. Their cut ins should only do scratch damage at night if you're lucky enough

I can't reach the E5 boss half of the time now and when I do I've been getting mostly A's. my luck has run out.

>>11653314
The BB cut ins yes. The 2destroyer cut in at the bottom will rekt you hard. None of my BB has actually ever survived a torpedo cut in. Everytime I see that 22inch torpedo cut in screen, I knew I have to retreat.

>>11653298
I've trans-interpreted it for a friend, but my Japanese is pretty poor.

Copypasta

The conversation with Tenryuu were along the line of:

Page 6
Tenryuu (TR): Ey, lemme hangout. Sitting next to ya.
7
TR: There's some things you just can't do anything about in battles. (comment: Holyfuck crit hits, plz, hitting at the worst time... lol)
T-san (T): but Murakumo died because of that.
8
T: In battles, someone ought to eventually die. Why didn't I notice that before?
TR: Didn't you become an admiral fully aware of that?
T: I knew that. Or I thought I knew that. The reality is different! I shouldn't have accepted such a heavy responsibility. Each and every one of your lives depend on me.
9
T: It's rotten. Arming ordinary girls and sending them off to battlefields. If that isn't fucked up, then what is?
TR: Admiral
10
TR: Look at my eyes. What do you see?
T: An ordinary girl-
TR: You're mistaken! Look closely. _When I'm in command of her, she is not an "ordinary girl". She is a weapon of war, whose role is to destroy the enemy, an "ordinary weapon".
11
TR: Open your eyes! Kan-musu (furigana: warships) battling is just normal. As weapons, we fight until our last dying breath. That is the pride of us kan-musu. Do not be so sympathetic towards weapons (furigana: us). Do stain the pride of kan-musu (furigana: us)!
12
TR: Don't avert your eyes from the reality. Don't deny us of our raison d'être...
T: Forgive me, Tenryuu.
13
T: Stil... I can't accept you guys.
TR: I see... That's... fine.
TR: 'Ey, T. Can I ask you something?
T: What is it?
14
TR: Was Murakumo's death in vain?
T's thoughts: 'Death in vain? How am I suppose to know that?'

Bonus: Murakumo's mad at T because he didn't recognize her name.
Bonus 2 - ending scene:
Murakumo: My body feels heavy. Ah, I must have sunk... I wanted to be together for a little longer... I'm never going to forgive that idiot...
MURAKUMO(?): Then... Let's go together"
MURAKUMO's thoughts (?): I have to return... to Admiral...

>>11653311
>>11653314
I do sparkle them, but even that's not enough against that damn fleet most of the times. Then there's the matter of going to day battle and wasting more ammo, because either one of the Ru-class or both of them survive.

>>11653312
Brunei here.
So far done E-1 only.
Got a Makigumo too from the boss.
Ship lvls not enough for E-2 though

Anyone else having issues entering a credit card? It's probably for the best that it won't let me put in a new one honestly.

>>11653330
Did E-2, not enough resources for E-3. I guess I'll have to wait for a miracle recipe for the 4th sub.

>>11653330
Why is tawitawi so competitive?
I cant even get into top500 when I am spending like 6hours playing the game. I am at 241, 500th has 263.

>>11653346
That's not competitive at all. You should be able to break that if you do all dailies/weeklies.

>>11653346
How autistic would you have to be to get 1029 score? I'm quite scared of the Japanese now, unless he's botting.

>>11653363
Some guy here has 1408, I don't even.

>>11653363
Boss nodes give a lot of exp. Just kill hundreds.

>>11653355
you dont get 10 points a day from just doing the dailies and weeklies, and you need a minimum of that much just to get to Marshal Admiral rank.

The japs are fast.

>>11653368
I would if the fucking compass didnt send me to NE. 3 in a row now.
I can only hope that 100 of these autists take it easy after the event so I can break top500.

>>11653389
Ahaha, I just had the compass send me 3 times in a row into the boss node. I needed those transport ships, though.

>>11653388
Even her card is beautiful.
She should be everyone priority, even above Musashi.

>>11653398
I really want her but Agano likes me more, 4 of them dropped from E5, I think they're trying to tell me something.

what fleet comp should i use for E3 teitoku's?

>>11653408
Read the wiki. There's an event page with more than enough to get you going.

What the fuck
5NE in a row at E5

>>11653412
Welp. that sucks, don't have 2 cs ;_;

>>11653420
Do you refresh? The game seems to know if you pussied out of fighting and would keep sending you there until you actually finish it.

What the actual fuck.
After roughly ~250 crafts of 250/100/250/30 I have Yukikaze, Shimakaze, Imuya and Goya.But I didnt recieve a single duplicate.

Wiki says to take 4 DD's and 2 CV's for 2-4, would KTKM and Ooi remodeled into CLT's and 4 DD's fine?

Spent almost 8 hours at E-7, 1 S rank, rest all A rank. With only 4k fuel left, I guess my Yahagi hunt is almost ending.

>>11653438
I feel you anon, I've put in 50 sorties with only 1 S rank as well. With the time and resource constraints in mind I'll only be able to scrape another 20, maybe 25 sorties.

>>11653432
Well, you need to tear through the elite BBs armor.

>>11653432
>4DD
You shouldnt trust the wiki and look at the enemy composition yourself. You should realize that there is no way your 4DD can blast through them.

>>11653438
Same sob story here. For some reason clearing E5 was much easier than E7 shenanigans. I only have a kaga and agano to show for all my effort too.

>>11653443
I am also playing rather safe as I lost a KTKM a week or so back. I actually hunted and retrained a KTKM to lvl 70 so I am not going make the same mistake again. If I cant get Yahagi, so be it.

>>11653438
I've gotten 14 S ranks already and the best I've gotten was Akigumo.

Why the fuck does Chikuma even appear at S ranks?

>>11653469
Chikuma, Hiyo and Takao is pretty common for me.

>>11653469
Silver background, mang.

>>11653456
Wiki actually says BBs which makes more sense. I've seen someone complete it with 6 lv70+ DDs, though.

>>11653469
Goddamn, you just had to say it. I got yet another Chikuma from an S-rank. I can get S-ranks pretty often but the rewards are mostly shit. Best was a Makigumo... or Mutsu which I already have three of.

All my friends have Yahagi...when will I get mine ;_;

So, it's 12:30 am, my fuel and steel are in double digits, and I'm now staring at the formation selection screen for the E-5 boss node with Mogami at red. Do I risk it?

Anyone getting errors while trying to access wikiwiki?

>>11653474
Out of the eleven S ranks I've gotten five have been blue backgrounds. This is really starting to feel like it's nowhere near worth it but it's not like I have any plans after the event is up.

>>11653484
Mogami will die.

>>11653484
I don't really like using Mogami, so I'd say go ahead. Depends on how much you really love her though

>>11653484
Never retreat, never surrender. She will die, I guarantee you that though.

>>11653484
You're not gonna kill the boss or get S rank. Her death will be in vain.

>>11653484
10 bucks says she'll sink.

>>11653484
Please don't.

>>11653484
It's ok you can replace her with a prettier ship.

>>11653484
Mogami is a whore.
Full speed ahead.

>>11653484
She will sink, I guarantee it. But what is victory without sacrifice?

>>11653484
Oh hey, same timezone. I thought we were pretty rare around these parts.

>>11653484
Shimakaze as flagship? Dead mogami for sure.

>>11653498
Thanks for you enlightening comment.

>>11653300
Always go vertical. You just have to live with a huge crit once in a while.
Double line misses too much and deal too many single digit damage to be able to make it out of that node at night.

>>11653502
It's like you didn't notice how the screenshot has vertical formation.

>>11653498
I doubt so, but in any case no one cares

>>11653484
Do it.
Mogami remodeled at lvl10. Nothing of value will be lost. I come from the future, you will get a Kumano to replace Mogami.

>>11653503
Yukikaze*
Read too many doujins lately.

Watch 81 drops of E7 madness.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22328388

In other news, someone got Yahagi on his 381th sortie.
75 S wins, 79 A wins. He spent 87k fuels and 175k ammo.
http://kantama.net/archives/1306786.html

>>11653512
This is pretty much a definition of insanity isn't it? Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different result.

>>11653516
Not when it's proven that a different result can and do happen.

>>11653512
based kancolle devs

>>11653512
>87k fuels
>175k ammo
That is enough for 500 attempts at crafting.
Is it even worth it?

>>11653512
Wow he did it with no sanshiki or AA guns at all?

>>11653523
Considering that Yahagi is a holo, you could be doing the same amount of crafting for her. I think someone tabulated his data for getting Shokaku/Zuikaku and it was in the thousands?

>>11653512
http://dl1.getuploader.com/g/kancolloda2/22883/kancolloda2_22883.jpg

Direct link to his 381 sortie image.

>>11653523
Yahagi is supposed to be a 5 - 6% drop, so, well. He could just as well craft 500 times and still not see her if her craft rate is like 1%.

>>11653527
kancolle db shows that most recipes give between 1-2% for the crane sisters.

>>11653523
>>11653527
It's just all luck in the end, percentages mean shit when you could be getting a Yahagi on your 10th try

>>11653512
Damn, get a life. I aint that much better but still.

All those Takao, Atago and gold BBs, it is like I am looking at my own drop count.

>>11653528
>only 1 Nagato
Oh wow I fear for my chances.

8 hours, 42 sorties
52 buckets, 7k fuel, 8k ammo, 7k steel used up
and this is my progress on the boss
I think this might be impossible. my main fleet only got to the boss once and felt the need to ignore it completely and just hit the fortresses instead, killing any chance of day battle happening

>>11653563
I bet you're retreating on orange

>>11653322
>>11653289
Another crap translation: http://pastebin.com/Riy25yEx

I skipped page zero and a bunch of page eighteen but that should be all.

>>11653566
nope. Only retreating on red. and not retreating at all with the suicide fleets I'm using to chip away at the boss HP since evidently my main fleet gets 1-2 girls into red before the third node regularly.

>>11653569
Thanks, I'll try to find time to typeset it soon. Hopefully.

Why haven't you tried taking screenshots of stars covering their eyes?

>>11653563
How are your fleet levels/composition? Don't give up until your buckets/resources hit 0. I couldn't get the finishing kill on the boss after about 80 sorties, 120 buckets, 22-26k fuel/ammo/steel with a level 60-80 fleet. Ran out of resources and called it quits. Seeing the bar completely full now hurts.

>>11653576
>Don't give up until your buckets/resources hit 0
>Ran out of resources and called it quits. Seeing the bar completely full now hurts.
I gotta say though, your determination is tough as hell. I quit my E-3 run in a few sorties when I noticed compass chan trolling me by making me zigzag round the map and my girls don't want to even attack the boss. Also the lolcrit first nodes

>>11653576
I'm >>11650811
I swapped the AA guns on BB with sanshiki and the sub with Maya ( dont have 3 sanshiki ) and still could not even once get past 3rd node. the one time I made it I had the sub with me.

I also went south instead of the boss seven times already.

What's the best equipment setup for AA Maya to be both effective in AA and night combat

>>11653574
I'll finish page 18 and do the cover eventually, I'll link it from the same post.

If you could find a QC guy for it that'd be great too.

>>11653580
I should mention I've been at this for close to 9 hours now.

Holy shit Akigumo's as annoying as Nenohi. I wasn't even aware that's possible.

>>11653584
Assuming you're doing e3
20.3 / 20.3 / sanshiki / radar or damekon
or
yellow 15.5 / yellow 15.5 / sanshiki / radar or damekon

Man just getting fucked at E-5 sucks so much. I don't even want the BB that much it's just a matter of principle. I wish I had thought to stop running two Kongo earlier, I got fucked up so much at D.

>>11653580
Are your sparkling your fleet? I'll admit, after E-4, I think it's pretty much just a placebo, but popular opinion says it helps reduce the chances of your ships getting critted and attacking the wrong enemy.

>>11653595
And by e3 I meant e4

>>11653601
I went in there 6 times with full sparkle and every time I ate crits and cut-ins on the first 2 nodes. nevere ven saw the third. stopped sparkling and at least sometimes got to the third.

>>11653601
>helps reduce the chances of your ships getting critted and attacking the wrong enemy
Hell yeah, if only that were real, but it does help to a certain extent I suppose, just not about eating crits and attacking

>>11653607
Try picking different formations maybe. I found that when I got stuck, that seemed to change things around a bit.

>>11653612
I found echelon to give me the least crits and cut-ins but its still like playing lottery.
but even with echelon my main fleet gets wrecked 19/20 times before even having the choice to go to the boss

e5 middle route is pretty similar to e4.
the same tactic should in fact work.

15k furniture coins, so close yet so far to that Nagato model

I probably can't keep this up for the entire time until the event ends. sleep deprivation is gonna get the better of me. I really what the fucking gold sub though

>>11653627
How will you ever take pictures of Nagato posing with Nagato.

>>11653627
How is 15k remotely close to 70k?

Doing these E4 attempts just makes all the UI delay so much more annoying and apparent.

>>11653629
>>11653631
I'll get there before it's removed, I think

>>11653624
>I probably can't keep this up for the entire time until the event ends. sleep deprivation is gonna get the better of me
At least get the bar to zero and clean up the next day. One anon suggest clearing a bar of health within 3 hours after you deplete her health.

So, does cutting out the BBs in a support fleet make much of a difference. Was thinking of doing so to save up on costs considering how expensive it is to run a support fleet and the fact that I'm mostly interested in killing the meatball.

>>11653634
How? It's gone on the 27th.

>>11653634
so you are somehow going to get 45k coins in the next 36 hours?

>>11653637
there is no "next day"
the event ends in 30 hours. its 3 AM november 26 JST
and you say that like its so easy. look at how little progress I made in 8 hours because of bullshit RNG. if I sleep for 8 hours and she recovers like 16% of her HP I can spend another 8 to get those back down. which I won't have.

>>11653636
If you're low on resources, then perhaps. But when you get lucky it pays off in spades.

>>11653641
Welp, just did a rough calculation, guess it's impossible even if I got a furniture box every exped 4 and 6 runs with the remaining time. Now I will never get a Nagato model

>>11653642
30 hours*

>>11653650
Oh fuck. I thought 27th is on Wednesday. My apologies.

>>11653650
There's always next year.

>>11653656
27th IS on Wednesday, are you high?

>>11653646
Yeah, but it's pretty brutal on the ammo resource. Plus the compass is pretty 50/50 on fucking you over. And the middle route is safe, but you're more likely to just get fucked by the boss herself.

>>11653659
>compass is pretty 50/50 on fucking you over
what amazing fortune you have

>>11653657
God damn me, I've forgotten it's past midnight here. Brb, scuttling myself.

>>11653658
will I-8 be an event reward ever again? probably not. will I ever be able to craft a fucking gold submarine? maybe I'll believe that when I get very high. the game has been shit RNG non-stop for me ever since I started.

>>11653665
Dude.
Just take it easy.

>>11653663
Rage all you want, the NE node is about 50/50. 210 E5 runs here.

>>11653665
Probably not, but if she ever becomes craftable, the chance is there so...

>>11653654
It's okay. I'm still desperately sortieing as the E-5 boss regens with zero buckets and nearly out of fuel. I understand.

>>11653669
I can't take it easy when I keep getting fucked in the ass by the RNG with a planet shaped dildo

>>11653665
I just hope they add Yahagi as a craftable ship early. I mean seriously, making her drop on E-5 and only the boss node is seriously a sadistic move. It's a slap in the face to everyone who got Musashi early.

>>11653681
You do realize that when your prostate and anus are all tensed up it will hurt a lot more than when you've all let loose.
Always let loose, always take it easy.

>>11653684
Don't count on it, probably the reason why she's the only Holo CL and with sakura effect when remodelled

>>11653684
they already announced she will be earlier available compared to Yamato/Musashi after their events

>>11653681
I don't know what to tell you. I just failed E-5 after 10 hours yesterday. I put in 25 dollars to get damage controls and goddesses, spent 150 buckets, 20k of everything but bauxite. I'm still here desperately trying to make it happen and I just can't. It's pretty awful but that's just how the game is.

It's actually how a lot of roguelikes are, sometimes you get fucked. This isn't any worse than dying to wild dogs after getting an Eternium Halberd on my farmer. As long as you tried your best you'll have no regrets.

>>11653684
I swear I would have gotten two of her if she was a reward for depleting the gauge again.

>>11653689
Oh I get it. You can only get her from the big ship crafting or something. How brutal.

>>11653693
Just to let you know, the nips aren't using damcons. It's better to add another radar/gun. Also I'm a firm believer in sparkles. 110 E5 runs for context.

>>11653684
Do the people who finished E-5 before the 20th even care about Yahagi? I mean, aside from collectors she seems to be not much better than Noshiro or Agano.

I'm probably biased cause I just don't like her design but whatever.

>>11653697
Ah I just didn't have enough instant repairs honestly. I was going the D route and had really really bad luck. I should have switch out my second Kongo earlier and didn't. The damcons were bought in hope that it would let me make it to night phase and get my sink. I just freaked out mid-way, maybe if I bought food supply ships I could have made it happen I have no idea.

I'm sure there was something else I could have done but I didn't do it and now I'm defeated. If you could have seen the amount of near sinks I had! I did get Agano in the end though.

>>11653705
Yes. Looking at it, she's probably the best CL that's not one of the torpedo sisters.

>>11653693
I had a similar experience with E4. Bought some damcons but ended up not having to use a single one in the end. I brought the boss bar down to 25-ish% and ran out of fuel. I decided to give up on E4 at that point, but a friend convinced me to keep pushing forward and use subs to farm resources. The total process took me 3 days to clear E4. Never lose hope, as long as you believe in your daughters, you will eventually win.

>>11653705
Yes. I care a whole, lot but I've run out of buckets and can't really do anything about it anymore. Being admiral is suffering as fuck.

>>11653713
how can I believe in them when they always refuse to target the boss?

>>11653705
yes, i skipped E-6 because i want her more than the crane sisters.

11 S rank and 17 A rank so far, only ship to drop i didnt already have was Kumano and I am down to my last 4.5k ammo.

>>11653725
Just believe, Admiral. Sparkle more and mouse hover faster and you will make it. The moment you lose hope is the moment everything ends!

>>11653734
I lost hope 2 weeks ago. That is - 4 days after I started playing

>>11653739
Hope is a crutch for the weak. You must brave the terrible jaws of the RNGoddess and rip the victory from her yet-beating heart to truly understand the value of the shipdaughterus you rescue from her!

Sucks to be you guys, I still have more than 55k of each resource left and I don't even want to bother with rare ships and Yahagi.

>>11653705
I mean, what else are we going to work for after clearing E5? At this point we are just farming drops.

Is Yahagi only droppable at S rank?

>>11653705
The game IS called Kantai Collection.

Though I'm using just using Yahagi as an excuse to get back there to farm for ships I actually want.

>>11653713
I've unfortunately got work and had to let boss health regen overnight. Thanks for your good wishes though.

>>11653746
what's the point of collecting resources if not for the event?

>>11653748
no

>>11653748
No, A as well.

>>11653753
crafting
like yamato

>>11653753
Maybe because I don't like the new ships?

>>11653753
Waiting
for winter event

>>11653759
Agano drops again for me. RNG is programmed to give us ships we already have. Thanks.

Damn I just realized I remodeled Musashi before getting her damaged sprite.
Stupid double entry in the gallery.

>>11653772
oooh shit, why didn't you send her on a solo run somewhere the moment you get her or something?

>>11653752
You should have AFK'd at the boss introduction screen. That's how I got through E5 when I needed to take breaks for food and sleep.

>>11653780
I think they patched that bug, it was reported last week or so.

>>11653780
Apparently that doesn't work anymore.

>>11653777
1500 steel is too steep a price to pay for a better look at Musashi's bronze deck armor. But then again, I just remodeled Hiei K2 and left her twiddling her thumbs in the docks while I sortie Haruna and Kongou, so what do I know.

>>11653786
That's why you let her get damaged right before you remodel.

>>11653786
You don't need to repair her since remodeling her gives you a new one with full health and supplies.

>>11653784
>>11653786
Oh, well that sucks then.

>>11653786
solo run to some world 3, 4 or 5 worlds and she'll be at 1 HP
then remodel
no need to even repair or resupply

>>11653789
>>11653791
I'm so fucking stupid.

>>11653772
I realized I did the same thing except with Zuikaku a couple days ago. I'm quite sad about it because I know I won't be getting another one ever.

Finally I got my 2nd goya from repeatedly run the first two nodes in E-5. Now I can conclude the event.

>>11653807
Congrats, I picked up a Hatsukaze from E-3.

>>11653784
No, it still works. I did it to get through E-4 today.

>>11653815
welp, I should have tried that in my desperation.

Got a question. Anyone gotten any CV from E7?

>>11653897
Kaga only.

>>11653897
A bunch of Kagas

>>11653897
kaga and half a dozen hyahaas.

>>11653897
(no. this is from 2-3 btw)

Did you buy the autumn furniture?

>>11653902
are hyahaas Junyou or something?

>>11653908
No, because I couldn't get any silver coins by using the expeditions.

>>11653908
I don't even know which furnitures are autumn and which are not

>>11653897
Lots of Junyous and one or two Hiyous I think.

>>11653919
Most likely window with pumpkins and wallpaper with leaves

>>11653908
I bought the wallpaper with leaves a few days ago. I think it was worth 20k coins. I shouldn't have done that. Now I'm 24k away from getting Nagato.

>>11653923
Pretty sure the japs don't celebrate Halloween that much, Asian countries in general don't celebrate Halloween anyways

So I just depleted the E4 boss' health bar. I'm half-way done, right?

>>11653946
Why would you even buy it, it looks terrible

>>11653950
You've only begun.

Why would people do this?

Are they farming for something or just trying to be pvp jerks?

>>11653951
It doesn't really look that bad. But I really should have saved up for Nagato.

anon with the high res but zero luck here.
crafted 2 more sanshiki now, so I switched may lineup to CLT, CLT, Takao, Maya, Kongou, Hiei, the last four with Sanshiki and radar/AA guns. everyone is setup for double attack.

2 CA 2 BB with sanshiki should be enough to have a good shot at killing the boss, right?

>>11653954
Don't say that anon, I just 10 hours depleting that bar.

>>11653951
I like it.

>>11653963
>I just 10 hours depleting that bar.
Excuse me, my lack of sleep is getting to me. I just spent 10 hours depleting that bar.

>>11653964
well I guess it doesn't look as bad with that theme

>>11653964
I envious of your Musashi.

>>11653972
And I envious your Agano.

>>11653964
>>11653972
>>11653984
Are you three just the same anon or something? dat kotatsu

>>11653989
Nope. That kotatsu looks comfy as hell after all and it is winter.

>>11653989
Obviously, kotatsu is the best item that requires a furniture fairy.

>>11653984
Hot damn. Also, I'm already prepared for new year's eve.

>>11653996
how much money did you hate?

>>11653966
Be ready to spend another 15.

>>11653999
Nothing. Got one fairy from a quest and another one from that 500 free points thing.

>>11653994
>not mahjong table
Anon, please.

>>11653991
>>11653994
But, the mahjong table?

>>11654006
Not much of a mahjong person, sorry. Besides, I have no more furniture fairy

>>11653964
>>11653972
>>11653984
I'll be in my sweet ass bed with yk2 if you need me.

>>11654008
Yuudachi kai 2 is gross
Worst kai 2.

>>11654010
you are scum

>>11654008
suddenly a cheap office screenshot compared to the few previous posters, nice

>>11654010
I like how crazy she looks

>>11654000
>>11653954
Got lucky, Was able to clear the boss within two runs, based on equivalence exchange of RNG, I guess I wouldn't be getting my Agano.

You guys obviously can't see how awesome the regular cardboard boxes are

All this furniture reminds me of something, I do hope they add a gramophone soon. Bonus if they play a new harbour BGM if you bought it.

Is this Kancolle ED song preview legit? The animu sounds pretty grimdark and serious if that's the case.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/nm22329657

Just sounds weird to have something like this when barely any details are out. I can't find the original radio broadcast to make sure.

>>11654077
Are we referring to the anime? If that's the case, Upotte's ED was quite melodramatic as well.

>>11654077
I doubt they would already have the ED when most of the show hasn't been produced yet.

>>11654077
Why would they have the ED out already when there isn't even a trailer for the anime yet

>>11653772
I did the same and just got the damaged picture for the non-remodeled version too, though I'm sure only the kai got damaged.

>>11654096
Thank you!
It's as you said, you can get that sprite after the remodel too.
750 steel well spent.

>>11654086
Because they do that all the time with radio "previews"

Can boss support expedition just... not show up? I just got to the boss in pristine condition and my 2DD 2CV expedition just failed to appear at all. Spend the day phase and CLT torps scraping an A from fortresses.

So I was looking into casualties of the Pearl Harbor, then I saw this.

>An I class SS sunk.

Which one is that?

>>11654129
Yes, they can go fishing instead of helping you, but it's very rare even without sparkles.

>>11654129
That's what you get for not sparkling support fleet flagship. Should've read the available resources.

>>11654136
>>11654137

I've ran dozens of non-sparkled support expeditions and this never once happened.

>>11654136
>>11654137
Having a sparkling flagship won't guarantee them showing up, either.

>>11654145
You're just lucky.

>>11654153
It's much less likely for them to not show up. In fact, in over 50 support expeditions with sparkle fleet, they haven't not shown up once for me.

Wikiwiki mentions something about the rates, IIRC.

The sparkle mechanic is so retarded.
They should limit it so it's only achievable on the highest unlocked map level then tune shit accordingly. Farming it before every other run is idiotic, even with moon/korean farming standards

Hey kid, wanna repair some ships?

getting to the e-4 boss without the shitty BB eating a massive crit is downright near impossible

>>11654177
Apparently not so impossible for over 100k admirals who've cleared E-4.

>>11654181
dirty cheats

For those still trying, how's everyone's E7 run today so far?

I think I'm starting to develop a phobia of flagship class DDs.

>>11654193
Gotta love it when 2 ships aim at the gold DD, fail to do significant damage, and then it cuts-in one of your BB's from full to red.

>>11654218
Every time the first hit on it is a 3 or a 4, I have a panic attack.

god fucking damn E2 is trying my patience
I even pissed away a Chikuma and STILL did no damage to the boss while killing both elite DDs. In a shitty formation.

>>11654193
Bad enough to make me cry and give up.
But then I went and crafted a bunch of rare holo planes, so it was okay.
It's so much fun to poke Musashi, she might actually turn out to be a ship I can rely on.

>>11654228
I wish I had a Musashi ;_;

>>11654228
>But then I went and crafted a bunch of rare holo planes, so it was okay.
Recipe?

>>11654224
Tell me more. 7 out of ten times I go north rught before boss. The other 3 times I damage and kill everything but the boss, even in line abreast

>>11654232
21/60/20/131
I did 90 of this recipe a few days ago and only got 3, but out of 40 times today I got 5.

>>11654228
Musashi actually performs extremely well. I don't think I've seen any other ships in my force 1-hit-kill flagship Ru/Ta/Wo's during daytime.

A Musashi+ 1CVL support fleet is also surprisingly effective.

>>11654193

After 10k fuel/ammo I found out that mid route is actually easier to do and won't troll you with compass.

Not that it helps my drops any. I wonder how many tries I'll get in before the event closes. Putting Yahagi as a drop on that boss was a terrible, terrible dick move. I'd rather go and do E5 the normal way all over again.

>>11654236
Don't worry. You'll get a lucky shot, I'm sure of it.

>>11654236
I've gotten more lucky in that I barely ever go North, but my last run was line abreast and all I did was kill the third ship and critically damage the second, while my BB missed her shot on the boss.

>>11654246
>>11654247
Another run.
Line abreast. 2 elites killed. 0 damage to boss.
Fuck

>>11654247
>>11654251
DDs and CAs are insanely powerful at night. Use them with double attack.

>>11654255
That's what I do and that's why they'd oneshot the fucking boss, were they to target her even ONCE. 180+ crits are not rare at all.

>>11654255
It's not that my ships don't do enough damage, I'm running two BBs and 4 CAs. It's just that they don't attack the right targets. I can SMOKE the boss if I get a good run. I don't use DDs because I find they're way too fragile, they get hit once and that's it.

>>11654243
S ranking on middle route is alot harder than north route though.

>>11654274
Not him but I've actually had more success getting S ranks on the middle route than the north one.

>>11654274
It's basically a choice between compass trolling or boss actually hitting people. It's a tough decision.

I hope whoever had the idea of making night battle maps gets some really slow and painful form of incurable cancer

>>11654276
The only way to trigger middle route for me is to go with one less Kongou (get raped during day on boss node), or with one more Kongou (get raped on the way to boss node). Both are equally terrifying.

hopefully only a few more suicide fleets before the gauge is below 500 HP and I can try to move in for a kill.

>>11654284
I'm currently running one Kongou, 3CAs, 2CLTs.

>>11654289
That sounds terrifying. How do you get past the day phase without heavy casualties?

>>11654293
Pray. Support expedition also helps a lot.

No, seriously.
Fucking seriously.
5th destroyer in row using 300 30 400 401?

Fuck you, rng whore.

Fuck RNG and fuck E2.
This game is fucking rigged, the only way to win is to pay $1000 for a full level 99 fleet with perfect gear and you'll still get raped.

>>11654353
Or you can stop being trash.

>>11654353
Another one pissed at RNG, yet still plays a game that no one is forcing them to

>>11654353
E-2 doesn't regenerate so you can just collect sparkles from practice and attack it with full sparkle once every hour or two.

You can also try day battle strategies if you keep whiffing on the boss.

>>11654364
You don't get fucking day battle because the only ships that you can kill are the two destroyers that need to stay alive.

E-2 RNG is easy. E-4 on the other hand is a real menace

>>11654353
git gud, noob

>>11654366
I brought a carrier with me when I was wearing down the boss, even though at the very end I ended up night attacking it like everyone else.

>>11654380
I brought a carrier and she got fucking critted during the night battle stage and did absolutely nothing of any fucking value. Also she's 100% worthless for the two battles leading up to the boss.

>>11654382
If you put the carrier in the last slot it doesn't matter 90% of the time as your last ship usually blows up something that already attacked.

It needs to be a good level though.

>>11654380
>>11654382
bringing carriers into night battles, sounds useful

>>11654387
She was in the last slot. Still worthless.

>>11654391
Well, if you can't make it to the boss with a fully sparkled fleet even once every third attack, you might just not be high enough level to make it happen.

>>11654389
Night ends eventually.

>>11654353

You don't know true hell until you either farm for Yahagi/Hatsukaze or done E-4.

>>11654394
I'm definitely high enough fucking level to make it happen, I've got the boss down to the point that like 80-90 damage should completely fucking deplete her bar.

>>11654394
I bought a BB and KitaOoi in case I get into day, and it worked for me.

>>11654398
then why would you have problem with E2?

Can anyone explain why they spam /0.8倍速 in this video? Is it some inside joke that I am unaware of?

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22178445

>>11654411
Because I'm getting fucked in the ass by RNG. Any time that my ships actually target and hit the enemy, shit goes FINE.
Only they never do that.

I hope they get a ton of complaints about E-4 being way too hard

How does fatigue work. Assume my ships just get out of fatigue and I go out for a sortie. Does fatigue kick in automatically and reduces the stats during the run, or a net fatigue change will be calculated and applied AFTER I return to the base?

>>11654416
They warned us before the event that the second half will be hell even for experienced admirals.
It was not that hard actually because of orange ships not being able to sink, most people would have used all their damcons in hours.

>>11654424
damecons are pointless. even if I can get to the boss with them, if my ships are at red HP, i wont be able to do shit to the boss

I have never felt so trolled since E-3 multiple zigzags in a row. I was using some resources to craft some ships, and in 10 tries, I got 9 1 hour timers and one 1h 20m timer

>>11654423
Read the wiki, also download sanaechan.

>>11654427
The wiki doesn't mention the part I asked.

>>11654423
>>11654431
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Fatigue
>This loss is subtracted from each ship after points gained during sortie were added. This makes the maximum possible fatigue 85.

>>11654251
8 runs since. 3 to east. Killing everyone but boss in 5.
I'm fucking losing it.

>>11654429
This is what got me through the event. "Push through at red" that keeps getting spouted on here is idiotic, you waste 33% more resources for what's going to be a failed boss run. Better to retreat and play then odds than make a stupid game and burn through your resources like a fool.

>>11654438
I mean north, fuck.

>>11654442
what?
push through at red is for night battle only. they don't use up damecon

>>11654442
im using suicide fleets and 10%maxhp damage to empty the gauge eventually
after that, main fleet tries to sink it. inb4 wasting 100 buckets before I sink it

>>11654450
I think you should probably make it clearer that you mean pushing through at red is from day to night battle only. Of course, unless you really mean pushing to the next node at night battle maps

>>11653484
Did we ever hear what happened to this anon's Mogamin?

>>11654461
You should really lurk more.
General consensus is, you only retreat at red. Day phase -> night phase is considered as safe.
Dont feel safe, then put on damecon and gimp your damage output and last equipment slot.

>>11654470
It's up to me whether or not to lurk. I'm just saying that your statement could be misinterpreted as pushing forward to the next node in maps that are night battle defaults

Sanshiki and AP shell does not stack.
Such a shame.

Also why does every mob at E4 aims for my poor Hiei?

>>11654485
Well, that is where Hiei sank after all.

>>11654488
;_;

I also field Kirishima.
Isn't it sad Haruna,losing two sisters at once?

So apparently the best tactic for E-2 is so stack carriers + 1BB + 2 CA, then turtle to boss, then hope that the elites won't be killed then hit the boss during day?
Because every time I bring CA/BB fleet, they shoot everything but the boss.

>>11654505
No the best tactic is to double attack and kill everyone during the night phase.
A remodeled lvl20s CA should be able to 1shot the boss. So put them at the bottom.

>>11654508
You know what happens? At least one ship won't crit, so will leave one of the non-bosses at half hp. Then the other one, who should be able to kill the boss, will finish that off instead.
Had it like 15 times.

>>11654505
Stop bringing carriers and hoping they'd contribute to your day battle.
Keep in mind they don't launch planes during their turn if they have moderate damage or worse, which is probably what's gonna happen by the time you reach the boss

Best to just bring more CAs/CLs/DDs and a BB or 2 for day battle rather than carriers

>>11654515
I promise I'll stop complaining after this.

When I do that, day battle never happens because I pop the elites like this

>>11654520
Here's the best tactic for any night battle: torp cruisers in last two slots.

>>11654514
Clearly you need to shelve that under performing ship that won't crit.

>>11654520
Bring only 4 ships instead of 6.

23 Hours*

>>11654520
Get stronger ships that will one shot all of them including the boss, ez

>>11654546

What's the best way to get modernization materials? 30/30/30/30? Specifically torpedo and firepower stats.

>>11654568
>torpedo
Run 1-1 over and over again. You'll do it when you do sparkle runs anyway.
>firepower
3-2-1 grinding will drop a good amount of BB and CA.

>>11654568
For torpedo just farm 1-1 to no end.

ooi please stop dropping your night battle torpedos

>>11654568
Drops from 1-1 and 3-2-1

>>11654584
Ooi should be set to double attack, not torpedo cut in.

>>11654576
>>11654577
>>11654587
Thank you very much!

>>11654588
Ok but that's fucking retarded because from my experience, I've never had a cut-in miss.

>>11654577
What about AA?

>>11654592
the whole point is that you are almost guarantee to have a double attack. Cut in? Unless it is Yukikaze, you might not even trigger it for the full run.

Double Attacks are most reliable. Cut-In are just for heavy lucky burst.

>>11654594
BBs give some AA, CV/CVL drops from 3-2-1 are also used as AA modernisation material

>>11654592
Your experience is shit. Cut-in attacks are worthless if you don't get the cut-in in the first place. Double attack is guaranteed to happen and Ooi/KTKM can still one shot the bosses with a double crit. If you insist on using cut ins, at least go with KTKM since she has higher luck.

>>11654597
Aren't double attacks 100% chance to happen?

>>11654592
You just gave away that you don't have alot of experience.
Double attack CTL is how 99% of people beats E5.

I'm 100% convinced the game is designed for the sole purpose of fucking you over, at this point I'm just pissing away resources for shit run after shit run.

>>11654594
Like the other anon said, you will get 3-2-1 CV and CVL drops on occasion. Farming Isuzus for their +5 AA is another option.

>>11654602
no

>>11654606
Welcome to KanColle.
You'll never win, you just sometimes not lose as badly.

>>11654606
I'm at 20 runs on 4-1. Reached the boss once.

I give up, and feel pretty good about it. I went from wanting to beat my ship daughters back to a good parent.

I love how the wiki says I need 2 sub guns and a torpedo to set up double attacks on KTKM/Ooi when she only has two equipment slots
>lol just read the wiki

>>11654606
HAVE YOU PERHAPS CONSIDERED PAYING MONEY AT THE STORE?

>>11654617
she has 3 slots at lvl 50 you cretin

>>11654617
I hope you're not that stupid.

It's odd, but it feels that middle route A-B-E-I-K is actually the best route for E7. It's more reliable at getting to the boss, and more ships seem to hold onto the sparkle.

Anyone feeling this way as well?

>>11654617
> 2 sub guns and a torpedo to set up double attacks
> only has two equipment slots
Pffft ahahaha.

>>11654619
Because obviously someone attempting E2 is going to have a level 50 Ooi.

>>11654617
Protip: Level them harder.

>>11654618
money can't buy you better RNG

>>11654628
BUT IT BUYS RESOURCES

DON'T YOU WANT RESOURCES?

>>11654623
>>11654625
I'm sorry that I'm not a nolifer NEET.
I don't have time to play the game for HOURS a day and I don't script.

>>11654633
The problem isn't them being low level, the problem is you being stupid.

>>11654633
My pet rock has better reading comprehension than you.

>>11654638
>lol you're just stupid if you were smart you could put 3 weapons on a sub-50 KTKM/Ooi!
Thanks

>>11654633
We're talking about the easiest ships to level in the game outside of carriers.

Stop using your responsibilities as excuses for why you're mentally retarded.

>>11654643
more like
>I didn't bother to check what her upgraded forms look like, better throw around some logical fallacies

>>11654648
I did check. It doesn't matter what her fucking level 50 remodel is if she's only level 27.

>>11654652
then wtf are you doing, nigga? You need her at Lvl50 to be truly functional for the event.

>>11654661
>You need her to be level 50 for a beginners event
Amazing, thanks Kancolle.

>>11654663
friendlier for newer admirals does not mean 'beginners event'
E-1 is around world 2. E-2 can be considered equivalent to 2-4. most people can't beat 2-4 without sub cheese for a month. thats no beginner.

>>11654669
It's not that it's hard, it's that RNG just keeps dicking me. I've had FLAWLESS E-2 runs.
It's just that I've had 5 TERRIBLE runs in a row and it's really starting to piss me off. And it's not like I can take a break, because I'm ALMOST there and I'm running out of time.

>>11654663
Stop greentexting and using your own interpretation for every statement.

Also you don't need a torpedo to get double attack on KTKM/Ooi means you can use both slots for 15.5cm sub guns or 20.3cm main guns for double attack. The 15.5cm sub guns + torpedo is just a suggestion so you can keep your midget subs on in case you go to day battle.

They never said it was a beginner's event, they just said it was more newb friendly.

>>11654675
You have 22 hours, that's more than enough time to clear E-2.

>>11654675
I did E-2 in about 30 hours of work.

>>11654680
six hours here. or something like that. E-2 is easy since you can cheese down the gauge with suicide fleets

>>11654675
>FLAWLESS
>TERRIBLE
>ALMOST
Fucking italics support, when? All-upper-case words are eyesores.

>>11654685
>suicide fleets
Absolutely disgusting.

>>11654685
what

>>11654685
You're a terrible admiral, sink yourself with the next suicide fleet you use

>>11654694
I didn't. Not enough resources since I started two weeks ago.

>>11654689
you're either stupidly lucky or you didn't do E-4

How do you make a suicide fleet, 6 level 1 DDs and pray for the best?

>>11654694
I understand the idea for using it on E-4, but this guy is using suicide fleets on E-2. The one where the gauge doesn't regenerate and it doesn't really take that much to clear it

>>11654617
You don't need three weapons for a double attack. Any combination of sub+main, main+main or sub+sub should do it.

>>11654705
Ok but the only reason I would even use my Ooi is because apparently torpedos are good

Fuck this thread is full of newfags now where did the server 4 people go?

>>11654705
Sub+main is a combination cut-in
Sub+sub is a torpedo cut-in

They are not double attacks, anon please.

>>11654708
Double attacks uses torpedo and firepower stat.

Guys, how annoying would it be if I purposely left an entire fleet of nothing but AA equips before going offline?

>>11654694
Don't try and shift the blame for being a murderer by claiming "everyone else does it". Bullshit, I never used suicide fleets for E-4 or E-5. And it wasn't luck, I burned through 50k fuel and ammo and went on over 80 sorties for both combined.

>>11654708
Dude. You use Ooi because her torpedo stats is HUGE. And then this >>11654711
My KTKM usually hits for 400 each attack at night.

>>11654710
By sub I mean sub cannons, anon.

>>11654710
By "sub" he clearly meant a secondary gun, not a torpedo.

>>11654714
do I look like I give a shit about duplicates? being shields is their only purpose.

>>11654712
They're on the irc channel now.

I really dont see how beginners cant beat E-2 considering lvl20s CA can 1shot the boss.
My Musashi is already lvl50 without doing any grinding. The experience coming purely from PVP only in just 2weeks.

i wonder if CLTs will stay this overpowered forever
not having Ooi was a pain in the ass, but i got her as a boss drop from E-5 (twice actually) so i'll be ready event if they are

>>11654725
The level 20 CAs aren't shooting at the boss.

>>11654728
get a fleet of lvl20 CAs then

>>11654727
You beat E-5 without two torp cruisers? Wow.

>>11654729
I have two level 30 BBs in the rare event I get a day battle and four level 20 CAs.
They don't target the boss, only the elite DDs.

>>11654734
less whining more trying

>>11654740
Better luck next event

>>11654735
I've been trying so hard I'm running out of resources.

>>11654719
Nothing. I don't use CV/CVL on PVP. It's a waste of bauxite. But today I had some funny guy switching from sub only fleet to plane-heavy and vice-versa. Every time I put/removed depth charges and sonars he would change his entire fleet.

>>11654734
>2BB
I found your problem. They are badly outclassed by cute destroyers and cruisers. Dont bring more than one.

>>11654743
The difference is that my BB can eat a hit and still function. If one of my shitty destroyers takes a hit, she's as good as dead.

>>11654740
running out means you haven't finished all of it and are capable of going on. besides, there's still 20 hours left

>>11654742
That's one impressive top-class trolling

>>11654747
You have an Iku.
Stick her there with fully modernized armor and you are making it to the boss node everytime with everyone healthy half of the time.

>>11654747
DDs are actually more survivable at night than BBs. I'm not shitting you.

>>11654747
Sparkle your DDs, put damage control on them and use line abreast.

>>11654753
My Iku doesn't do half as well as my Goya at dodging, actually.

>>11654754
Is it because of the higher evasions?

>>11654757
Well then what the fuck are you complaining about
Put 2sub on rotation and just beat E2 with it. E2 is fucking easy. If you are already whining at E2, E4 and E7 will make you smash your monitor.

>>11654763
I don't even plan on attempting E3.

>>11654763
at least he never has to know the E7 hell.

>>11654763
Actaully I'm more frustrated at E-2 than E-3 - 5. Getting to boss to do 0 damage is too common for me there.

>>11654754
It's why I put Haruna as my flagship. Helps save on costs.

>>11654773
I really dont know how E-2 can be more frustrating than E-4. You need 2 of your sanshiki equipped ship to actually target henderson-chan to win.
In E-2, your whole fleet can 1shot her.

>>11654758
No. Supposedly DDs/CAs (i dunno about CLs, and my level 97 CLT is still squishy as fuck) gets an armor boost in addition to damage boost at night.
When an enemy performs a cut-in and it hits a DD/CA there's a roughly 50/50 chance they'll just shrug it off with single digit damage. If it was a BB on the receiving end it's guaranteed instant orange or worst.

I turned back to the base because Hiei got critted to red by CA's ,at E4, 9times out of 11 times now.

I can't rotate her because other 2 Kongou sisters of mine below level 10.

Am I getting trolled hard by RNG or did you guys encountered this phenomenon too?

Having a perfect run and both you and your support fleets are sparkled?

Time to go northeast.

>>11654783
I've had that happen with my CAs where they eat a cut-in that I was worried about for 5-6 damage.

>>11654795
I did, usually after a kill. But it's probably just RNG and we were just too conscious of it because we were frustrated.

>Ooshio's modernization voice
Jesus, what a slut.

>>11654797
It depends on what kind of cut in.
BB cut in is single digit damage most of the time. None of my ship has actually survive a torpedo cut in with scratch damage.

I have 11404/14098/8712/3097 Just gonna blitz E-3 and hope for the best. It's like I'm really an IJN teitoku.

When things go bad at E5, it really goes badly.

>>11654842
Night battle my friend. Do it. You need to prove to the naysayers that it's 100% safe.

Wait, I can't access the event maps anymore. Am I too late?

>>11654855
You need over 80% sortie win rate.

>>11654855
Yes.

>>11654858
I thought it was 75%

>>11654859
Say it ain't so. I spent the last weekend gathering res and buckets for this.

>>11654861
Scrap your weapons
Scrap your girls
Spam 1-1
Read the wiki

>>11654783
>When an enemy performs a cut-in and it hits a DD/CA there's a roughly 50/50 chance they'll just shrug it off with single digit damage.
Weird, I observe the same effect on my BB too. My run through E4 had that happening to me quite a bit.

>>11654795
I log my E4 run and when I read through it, I found out that my Kirishima is the reason why I retreat, she's a crit magnet in those parts. That said >>11654804 is correct, there will be always a certain ship in the fleet that gets hit often, my Atago is one of them as well.

>>11654818
>None of my ship has actually survive a torpedo cut in with scratch damage.
This. I don't worry much about enemy's CA/BB cut-ins because the damage usually results in orange or less but enemy's CLT cut-n always deal major damage.

It's ok, I didn't want to complete E2.
So fucking close too, but no more resources.
Why? Why couldn't I have any luck?