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Event ends on 27th: less than 5 days remaining.

Previous Thread: >>11635323

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>> No.11643415
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Why does everyone hates her at the very first sight?

>> No.11643417

>>11643415
Because the game has become boring.

>> No.11643420
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11643420

Which kanmusu wud u fug?

>>11643415
But that's wrong. They only start to hate her much later

>> No.11643422

For all the anons who have completed the event, which route is better for clearing E-5, the upper route or the middle route?

>> No.11643425

>>11643422
Upper.

I don't really like the middle route because if you're unlucky the floating fortresses can still crit and the drop in fuel makes it that much harder to evade stuff in the boss's day battle. You can also enter day battle in the pre-boss node, which is even worse for your ammo.

>> No.11643428

>>11643422
I finished it with NE compass trolling, didn't try the middle one because got no other high lvl DD/CA to replace my BB.

>> No.11643433

Excuse me, just a question. How many of you weren't here before Kancolle? These threads seem really fast.

>> No.11643434

>>11643433
No board is an island.

>> No.11643438

>>11643434
Ah. When /jp/ was mostly about Touhou and stuff. Now those threads seem dead. The only threads that are alive lately are these.

>> No.11643439

>>11643422
Top route.
I dont want to run 3kongou and running 1kongou is just bad as I doubt you can wipe out the escorts consistently without BB gun.

>> No.11643440

Fuck E-5,everytime i finish the first node with full health then to get raped in the second node.

>> No.11643442

>>11643438
wich 2hu wud u like to see fug by kanmusu

>> No.11643443
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>>11643433
I get paid to post about it. :^)

>> No.11643446

>>11643438
The board moves just as fast as it always has, this one just moves faster. Can we keep board meta out of this thread maybe?

>> No.11643448

>>11643443
Fuck off buddy, I think you wandered into the wrong place.

>> No.11643450

>>11643443
Please tell me where you're getting your money, I hate to see people paid to do what I do for free.

>> No.11643453

>>11643442
New to this Kancolle thing.
Shinki.

>> No.11643454
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Besides compass trolling, hows the drop rate so far for you guys? I am getting fuck ton of dupes.

>> No.11643458

>>11643454
At least you have all these -kaku and Goya dupes, I can't even get any off them off E6/7.

>> No.11643460

>>11643454
I got Zuikaku on my first E-3 clear and Akigumo on my final E-5 clear. Outside of that, trash.

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>>11643454
Well, in my first run of E-7, I got Nagato. However, I feel really annoyed considering I already had 3 of them and this probably drained my luck for Yahagi.

>> No.11643462

Large ship building coming mid-late December. Why do they keep pushing it back? I'm so tired of waiting.

>> No.11643464

>>11643462
details of this?

>> No.11643470

>>11643464
Special item required for using.
Can be acquired from certain nodes or cash shop.

>> No.11643471
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>>11643454
I as well got a Zuikaku when I finished clearing E3. Now I'd stop farming if only I got a Shoukaku even if there's still a couple of girls I don't have. Funny how she was the CV I wanted the most when I started the game, now I have every other CV except for her, fucking RNG.

>> No.11643479

Is there any confirmation that luck actually affect the compass in E-5?
There is no comment on the wikiwiki about it.
I tried ktkm, ooi and yukikaze so far and all of them still can send me to NE. What I notice so far is, when I dont use support, my chances of going to the boss node is much much higher.
I think we need to do more testing on this.

>> No.11643491

What level ships are needed for E-5?
I have everyone at 60-70 and can barely hit the flagships even with double damage and then get day battle at second node half of the time.
Sparkling everyone like this takes more time than the boss to regen back half of her HP.

>> No.11643494

>>11643491
>day battle at second node
Use vertical on all nodes. Why is everyone so worried about taking damage? Even a crit only bring you to orange with vertical.

>> No.11643496

>>11643491
sparkle up to maximum morale. that way you can do 4 sparkle runs in a row without re-sparkling.

>> No.11643498

>>11643494
I use vertical on all nodes.

>> No.11643501

>>11643498
And how did you get into day battle?
Did you put minisub on kitaooi?
Any leftover should be wiped by them.

>> No.11643513

>>11643501
No, I put 2*15.5cm and damecon since I don't want to risk their lives at the boss, is it that bad?

>> No.11643515

>>11643501
I can't count the times my KitaOoi decided to torpedo the same enemy. the one with 2 hp left.

>> No.11643516

>>11643513
You might as well bring another CA if you don't wanna put midget subs on your CLT.

>> No.11643521

>>11643513
no wonder you are failing. you are never going to s rank the boss node consistently if you don't take risk.

>> No.11643528

>>11643513
Bringing red ships to the boss is a bad idea anyway whether they have damecon or not and they won't sink if they didn't enter the node red so put them midget sub.

>> No.11643535

>>11643513
I don't even use damecon and cleared E-5 with no ships sunk. Put the damn midget subs since they work wonders on boss node. This works much better since you increase the damage done to the enemies.

>> No.11643540

>>11643528
It's okay, I believe in orange, but not so much in the boss day -> night transition with someone getting red in the day phase.

>> No.11643552

>>11643540
if the transition is automatic its safe
if you have to decide you want to go night battle, its not ( in red )

>> No.11643556

>>11643540
You obviously haven't used sacrificial ships, I guess your love for your kanmusu is admirable, else you'd be sure that ships won't sink even after transitions.

>> No.11643567

>>11643552
Even if the transition is manual it is still safe. Ironbottom-chan deal fucking pathetic damage to red ships. Of course if your ships sank, you would be the unlucky 0.0001% teitoku playing the game now. You might as well go buy a lottery if you are that lucky.

>> No.11643616

284/456 resources used for middle route
Fuck, I guess it is worth it without the NE trolling.

>> No.11643629

What is a good amount of radars? I have two Type 32, one Type 13/22 and plenty 21s. Are just the 32 enough or should I mix in some air radars as well?

>> No.11643631

>>11643629
What recipe did you use for your 32s?

>> No.11643632

>>11643631
10/11/251/250

>> No.11643639

Why is my support fleet (109) not doing anything during the day battle for E-4? I'm using 2BB 4CV.

>> No.11643641

>>11643616
agree
NE 80%

>> No.11643645

>>11643639
Try 110.

>> No.11643649

Welp,the boss gauge is empty and i'm out of buckets.
I guess i'm done with E-5,i'll farm E-3 and say farwell to Musashi.

>> No.11643661

>>11643632
Just pulled a Type 22 and 3 failures with it. That's good enough for me. I didn't like what I was getting from my 10/10/250/250s.

>> No.11643665

What's the highest single damage one ship has done under your watch?
My Yukikaze managed to deal 734 damage with a cutin on E-4 to a elite DD.

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>>11643616
I tried the middle route for E7 just for the hell of it and to see how much it would cost me if I tried to maximize on them. Main fleet consisted of Musashi, Nagato, Mutsu, Ise, Yamashiro, Fusou and support fleet was made up of the Kongous, Hibiki, and Ikazuchi. Total costs for repairs and resupplying was 1851 fuel, 1248 ammo, and 1982 steel.

>> No.11643679

>>11643645
That seems to have worked, thanks. When I originally said 2BB I meant 2DD, woops. Anyway, is the support fleet attack RNG based or is 109 for a fleet of 4 and 110 for a fleet of 6?

>> No.11643681

>>11643674
So, did you S rank it?

>> No.11643683

>>11643674
>Total costs for repairs and resupplying was 1851 fuel, 1248 ammo, and 1982 steel.
This is what happened when you used slow and useless ship like Hotel Yamato. Did you S it?

>> No.11643685

>>11643454
I finally picked up a Mutsu during my E5 runs and then 2 runs later, I picked up a Nagato. I wish I had this luck now so I could get Yahagi and then stop caring about this event.

>>11643665
I don't remember the exact number or even the map but it was either in E4 or E5. My Kitakami hit one of the top 3 enemy ships (might have been on the enemy flag) for over 800 damage with 400+ double shots.

>> No.11643696

A retarded question, but do submarines count as ships when you go on a sortie?

>> No.11643699
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Finally cleared E5 last night, here's a log of runs/drops for those interested.

I didn't notice much difference between sparkling and not. Also E5 = E4 in difficulty, but for different reasons.

>> No.11643700

>>11643696
Why wouldn't it?

>> No.11643701
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>>11643681
>>11643683
>Did you S
Hell no. I got an A-rank and an Aoba for it. Top is what they were at entering night battle and bottom is how it ended.

>> No.11643706

>>11643701
BBs are shit at night combat. More news at 11.

>> No.11643707

>>11643706
Why can't you give us the news now?

>> No.11643727

Can this event end already so I'd stop wasting my resources on shitty drops.

>> No.11643728

>>11643701
I think 3kongou and friends is the best way to do the middle route unless you have high lvl CA.

>> No.11643729

>>11643728
Kinugasa Kai 2 ftw

>> No.11643738

>>11643699
Care to share your equipment? I'm running the exact same fleet with Hiei instead of Kongou.

I'm also looking for any excuse to stop sparkling because this is a huge pain in the ass.

>> No.11643762

>>11643738
>I'm also looking for any excuse to stop sparkling because this is a huge pain in the ass.
A friend told me that supposedly even with the time it takes to sparkle, it still saves time compared to trying to clear without sparkling. I cleared E5 using full sparkles about 90% of the time and without a support expedition.

>> No.11643774

>>11643738
Kongous: 46cm x2, sanshiki, 32 radar
CL(t): 20.3cm, 15.5cm, mini-sub
DD: 10cm, 12.7cm, damage control

If you put the DD in slots 4 and 6, and use 2-line formation, they will usually be the ones targeted.

>> No.11643778

>>11643762
It's not so much about the time. It's that I'd rather wait for fatigue to wear off while doing other things instead of actively placing my full attention on the game.

However, I just S ranked the boss the second time reaching her so I guess I'll suck it up and keep sparking. Got Kumano too.

>>11643774
Huh, almost the same equipment too. That's a huge boost to my confidence. The positioning thing is interesting so I'll give it a shot. Thanks.

>> No.11643782
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How hyped are you for this?

>> No.11643783

>>11643782
what's this?

>> No.11643787

>>11643782
Go back to /a/ with your edgy doujinshi artists.
I'm sure you'd get tons of replies there.

>> No.11643786

So I did E2 with 4 damage to my ships in total (an 8 minute downtime for repair)
And I didn't even manage to scratch the boss, despite annihilating every other ship in the enemy fleet. What's the trigger for day battle? If it went into day battle, I would have wiped him out like it was nothing.

>> No.11643788

>>11643786
Elite DD are alive before night battle ends

>> No.11643789

>>11643787
>go back to /a/
>with doujinshi
... what

>> No.11643790

>>11643783
Fatalpulse's new doujin.
>>11643787
Aww come now really?

>> No.11643794

>>11643789
/jp/ is a worksafe, Christian board.
/a/ on the other hand is full of atheists who indulge in inappropriate sexual behaviors.

>> No.11643800

>>11643794
sounds about right

>> No.11643802

>>11643794
You got it the other way around, /jp/ is for inappropiate sexual behaviors, which touhou would you fuck (Or kanmusu in this case) and onahole threads.

>> No.11643803

>>11643782
If it's porn then not at all.

>> No.11643806

>>11643782
>Fatalpulse
>Zuikaku and shoukaku
I really don't like where this is going

>> No.11643810

>>11643782
Yes, unless it's only two pages of actual fucking again.

>> No.11643812

>>11643802
Point me to those fucking threads, because I don't see any on the /jp/ I browse.
/a/ on the other hand has "I want to fuck ___" every 5 posts.
Also, onaholes are Christianity-approved. My pastor (who's also a /jp/spie) told me so.

>> No.11643813

Eugh, this is disgusting. I wish you could prioritize a single ship for fire even just once per sortie.

>> No.11643815

>>11643813
You're not forced or paid to play this game in case you forgot

>> No.11643816
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Just tried the middle route again with a glittering main fleet and support of 3 Kongous, 2 DDs, and Suzuya. This has got to be one of my best runs ever. S cleared it but unfortunately got a Mutsu, which I already have.

>> No.11643818

So, how rare is it for a sub to drop of 4-1?

>> No.11643820

>>11643813
That will never happen. Much of the game's difficulty comes from the bullshit RNG. Unless they overhaul the combat system into something resembling a proper tactical RPG, getting to pick who to shoot will just unbalance the game.

>> No.11643824

>>11643820
just make it so you can set 1 priority target and there is an increased chance ( like, instead of equal chance for all, its now 40% target and 60% random something ) that your ships will hit it. Once they attacked priority target once the assignment vanishes. attacking and missing counts as attacking. That would keep most of the bullshit but make it not quite galaxy level frustrating

>> No.11643828

>>11643824
The point is in removing the bullshit. Adding yet another RNG element won't make it any better.

>> No.11643833

>>11643828
perhaps you should read the post again ?

>> No.11643838

It's hilarious to watch some people get so incredibly angry at just E-3.

>> No.11643840

>>11643838
where?

>> No.11643842

>>11643840
twitter. I'm following Kuugen, notoriously angry german lesbian, and she's been having one rage fit after another for the last week non-stop. E-1 was hilarious, E-2 was even more hilarious and E-3 right now is just golden

>> No.11643857

>>11643842
How does anyone get angry at E-1?

>> No.11643873

>>11643857
she went through there after playing for like 5 days or something. no carriers or I think one light carrier. and it kept trolling her with crits
also, she has the patience of... well, that little patience is a class of its own.

>> No.11643889

>>11643873
Why is a girl playing this game?
To get nerd boy appeal?

>> No.11643892

>>11643889
why do lesbians look at other girls? the same reason men do

>> No.11643899

>>11643892
Lesbians don't exist outside of fiction though.

>> No.11643897

>>11643892
Because of their penis?

>> No.11643901

>>11643897
you've been here on /jp/ for too long

>> No.11643941

>>11643873
I cleared E-1 without a carrier and also around 5 days though, how is it rage inducing at all in any way?

Or is it just because I'm not a girl that's why I don't get angry needlessly

>> No.11643950

>>11643941
she basically has level zero tolerance for RNG bullshit. How she managed to get this far without murdering someone is completely beyond me

>> No.11643966

>>11643950
Why would anyone with level zero tolerance for RNG bullshit play a game full of nothing but RNG bullshit?

>> No.11643967

>>11643966
A masochist?

>> No.11643969

>>11643966
Attentionwhore yourself because it's popular?

>> No.11643976

>>11643969
there are a lot other things she could do to get more attention. writing any of her damn fanfics for example

>>11643966
don't ask me. when someone asked her, she said she didn't know it was all RNG and now her pride doesn't allow her to back down.

>> No.11643977

>>11643966
Because she's a lesbian.

>> No.11643979

I swear that the RNG is watching me or something. I've been wanting another CAvi for some time, and it's been no good drop whatsoever, and just now I've crafted Suzuya without even thinking about it.

Yubari's the same. Daily netted me yet another...

>> No.11643986

>>11643977
declaring that you're a lesbian is best way to attract d/u/mb twitter tards
is she not satisfied yet

>> No.11643989

>>11643782
A decent grasp of anatomy for once? That clearly exceeds expectations.

But he's gone too soft, he no longer delivers his ten-page odes to male superiority like he used to. I bet it'll be a pure love yuri story.

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>> No.11643993

>>11643991
translate it weebs

>> No.11643998

>>11643989

He's probably starving from buying extra docks, expect more vore fantasy.

>> No.11644002

>>11643699
Thank you for the report, looks like I have a shot at the stage now. I just hope I won't lose any more damage control than I already have.

Out of curiosity, how was your support fleet? I have to use a couple of low-level DD and CA on my main fleet, so I was wondering whether the level 90 BBs on the support fleet could compensate.

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>> No.11644027

How is carrier damage calculated? Is firepower used at all, if the carrier has only planes mounted?

>> No.11644039

Any new good MMD videos?

>> No.11644043
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11644043

E7 runs are murdering my ammo stock.

>> No.11644048

>>11644039
Damn, stop asking that every thread. Can't you search for the new ones and decide which one you like ?

>> No.11644050

The boss gauge hasn't moved in 4 hours. Fuck.

>> No.11644053

>>11644039
I'm sick of seeing only playthroughs and MMD videos when I go through Moontube. Disgusting.

>> No.11644059

>>11644039
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22290896

>> No.11644060

>>11644043
the support fleet cost > actual fleet cost for me due to the number of times i had to go back.

>> No.11644074

remodelling Iku, worth it? don't really have a second turbine to equip onto her though

>> No.11644073

>>11644060
That's the thing! I am actually feeling that it would be cheaper to craft those ships than trying to farm for them at this rate.

I am not sure if S rating is doable without support fleet on the other hand. Without support fleet, facing down all three fortresses is very likely, and those really fuck with any chance of killing the flagship by night battle.

>> No.11644089

>>11644074
Can someone confirm that they implemented the aircraft carrying sub = sub for expeditions thing yet?

>> No.11644091

>>11644074
I remodeled Iku. damage boost is very noticeable. you will need to do that if you need Iku to kill shit.

>> No.11644093
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Well E5 farm was depressing. I just finished the 170 buckets that I had left after clearing the event. Most of the runs I had were S rank, yet I couldn't manage to get Yahagi. There were some nice drops that I didn't have before but it still feels like I lost.

>> No.11644097

>>11644093
170 buckets... did you sink around 25k worth of resources into it btw?

>> No.11644099

>>11644089
>>>/wiki/

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Only play sparingly for some time.
Revving it up only to upgrade my favorite gun maker, and styling up the room.

>> No.11644103

>>11644093
Shoukaku drops in E5?

>> No.11644106

>>11644099
not on the wiki

>> No.11644107

>>11644093
That's a pretty decent haul. I wouldn't be too upset.

I haven't cleared E-5 but at this point I think I'm just going to quit if I get Yahagi and Agano since I have little interest in getting Musashi.

>> No.11644109

>>11644097
No, it's actually closer to ~16k of each.

>>11644103
Yes.

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Second Nagato from E7, why god

>> No.11644113

>>11644106
But it actually is.
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Expedition

>> No.11644114

>>11644106
it is on the wiki

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>>11644100
This is my room atm. Saving up for Nagato took 3 weeks of nonstop expedition 6.

>> No.11644117

>>11644109
What's your setup? Do you sparkle and are you using 2xDD 2xCVL for support expedition?

>> No.11644118

>>11644109
Time to move to E7, jp wiki didn't have her listed as a drop there.

>> No.11644121

>>11644118
It wasn't even an S rank drop iirc, just A rank.

>> No.11644135

>>11644115
So many good tables to buy, but i only have 1 coin.

>> No.11644139

Shining really does make a huge difference in E-5. I guess I can't afford to be lazy.

>> No.11644142

>>11644135
almost all the tables require the furniture fairy anyway

>> No.11644153

>>11644142
I just want to play mahjong with my girls.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22265508

>> No.11644156

They'll add a Christmas tree next maintenance right? furniture fairy required

>> No.11644167

>>11644093
You don't have Kaga before?

>> No.11644176

>>11644167
No, I never did the CV recipe except for one time that resulted in Zuikaku. Getting Zuikaku allowed me to pick up Akagi and I didn't really even try to get others.

>> No.11644178

>>11644176
God damn, son. I tried the fucking recipe at least 8 times, and no CV

>> No.11644183

>>11644178
Its better to just get them from drops, I got all CVs from drops and am only missing Kaga and Zuikaku, only Zuihou from the CVLs

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E-4 is depressingly hard. ;_;

>> No.11644191

>>11644182
You tell me. I give up after i never see the boss for 2 days straight.
I even plowed on with medium damage and only retreating if i ever got huge damage.

>> No.11644195

>>11644183
I'm more surprised by the fact that you didn't get Kaga as drops before.

>> No.11644201

>>11644153
>http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22265508
Naka!!! You look like Ikeda Kana, the cat that got NTR'd.

>> No.11644204

>>11644191
It's even more depressing when you see other admirals with a similar fleet setup and same strats succeeding just because they got better RNG and that E-5 could have been done if E-4 RNG didn't suck so damn much.

>> No.11644211

>>11644073
True. There is no risk of risking a ship by mistake by crafting. Well its only for a limited time, its fine to do it anyway, just keep the anger levels in check.

>> No.11644216

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22249140

In memory of the stupid Teitoku that lost a Hiei in E-4.

>> No.11644222

>>11644216
What a moron.
If she spent that time spent singing swimming instead, she'd have survived.

>> No.11644224
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11644224

>>11644153
>>11644201

>>11644211
That's the thing... the crane sisters and Nagato are pretty much what I wanted really.

Heck, I am starting to wonder if A-grade clear is possible with subs. Running support fleet that is almost guaranteed to get to the boss node isn't so horrible. You basically give up on S grade when you run subs, but fuck spending 500 ammo and not even getting to boss!

>> No.11644227

>>11644224
Is that bucket for when she pisses herself?

>> No.11644228

>>11644216
That was nice, any more you suggest watching?

>> No.11644229

Has anyone here tried using Mutsu for support expedition for any statistically significant number of tries? I wonder if her absurd firepower stat has any significant effect on the bombardment.

>> No.11644231

>>11644224
I forgot to add that I ran subs to take out 2 bars from E5 boss before I gave up and used normal 2x Kongou clear. I was frustrated with subs only because they do pitiful amount of dmg on the boss, not because they couldn't make it. On the other hand, I was furious with the RNG redirection to NE node with the normal clear, and it's really this redirection that ate up most of my ammo and fuel!

Fuck.

>> No.11644232

>>11644229

And of course, I meant Musashi, not Mutsu.

>> No.11644233

>>11644229
I've tried adding Mutsu and Nagato into my support expedition. When I noticed that the damage difference is ~20 in total I said fuck it and just went back to using 2CV 2DD

>> No.11644234

>>11644229
I do find that more firepower somewhat helps, but only to an extent. Running 2DD 2 CVL is effective enough. Best I've gotten from support was 2 forts down, with 3x BB or with the 2CVL.

>> No.11644245

E2 boss battle. Boss got away with SIX HP.
Suffering ending when?

>> No.11644249

Empty bar E-5 boss just survived with 20 hp, then gave me Yahagi for not killing her.
She is so nice, I don't want to kill her for a Musashi now.

>> No.11644250

>>11644245
when you finally finish off E5 boss.

>> No.11644251

>>11644245
Someone had the boss with ONE HP. It won't end unless you get extremely lucky. This was my 10th time reaching the boss, though >>11642000

>> No.11644254

>>11644249
lucky you. I didn't anything good from that boss even with all the S grade clears. Took me 30 runs at that.

>> No.11644256

>>11644251
I was hyped when I fired off a torpedo, but of course it missed.

>> No.11644264

When do ranks reset? At the exact end of the month?

>> No.11644286

>>11644233
>>11644234

So there's really no tangible difference between 2DD 2CVL and 2DD 2CV 2BB? Most I can count on is having the forts wiped out? I do recall my BB-toting supports did take down the forts when I cleared E5, but I thought that's because they were there and a 2CVL expedition wouldn't have managed even that much.

>> No.11644288

>>11644286
I'm doing 2 DD 2 CV, not 2 DD 2 CVL tho.

>> No.11644290

>>11644250
I finished E5 and the suffering hasn't ended.

Nagato where? Yahagi where? Naganami where?

>> No.11644291

>>11644286
>no tangible difference between 2DD 2CVL and 2DD 2CV 2BB
If it can't manage much more than sinking two forts, no.

>> No.11644292
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>> No.11644294

>>11644290
>Nagato where?
Come on, don't start bitching about that shit drop that everyone had multiples of even before the event started.

>> No.11644302
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11644302

Where do I order a Kaga Kotatsu?

>> No.11644303

>>11644286
Adding 2 BB certainly makes a tangible difference.
Mutsu and Nagato loaded with 3x46 and AP each with Chitochiyo and 2 DDs managed to take all 3 forts and damage the princesses a couple of times. If I wasn't so OCD about not mixing main guns of different bore sizes, loading up a 41 as the last gun would probably have increased their damage even more as well.

>> No.11644313

>>11644303
That's not a setup for E7 though. You have to spend around 300+ ammo to roll Mutsu and Nagato with the DD and CVL.

DD and CVL cost 64/100 per run by themselves, that I remember.

>> No.11644314

It's so retarded that 2-4 trolled me hard then I cleared it with solo Iku on the 3rd try (the first she actually got to the boss)...

>> No.11644320

>>11644313
It depends on if you believe (until someone does a thorough investigation) whether the additional S ranks gained by having 2 BBs is worth the cost.

>> No.11644336

So the wiki suggests that you don't really modernize your ships if you'll remodell her later. But that doesn't mean that I should run with 1 star Kongou until lvl75, right?

>> No.11644338

Level 90 Musashi in PvP earlier, how do you folks tear through levels that fast??

>> No.11644339

>>11644336
They do gain stats eventually by leveling up ( yes, even FP, defense, torpedo and AA. just write down stats of a ship, level it up a bit and check again, most notable with subs ) but its save to modernize them to full if the next remodel is more than 30 levels away

>> No.11644342

>>11644338
Well, it's quite easy if you have the resources.

>> No.11644344

>>11644336
Eventually you hit your ship cap and need to modernize stuff that's further away from remodel. Torp and armor stat especially aren't a big deal. Anti air is the hardest to get, so it's good to try to max the anti-air stat of any remodeled ships.

>> No.11644348

>>11644336
If you're going to be using them it's always worth it to at least max everything but AA. Once you get somewhere in the game you'll be rolling in modernization material anyway. I've seen people take the wiki's advice and apply it to subs, which is ridiculous. The wiki isn't all knowing. If it isn't a level 20 final remodel or something I'd say always go for it.

>> No.11644350

>>11644339
>>11644344
On that note. Is it worth leveling Firepower (or AA even) on CLs that are stocked with plains only?

>> No.11644353

>>11644350
Yes, firepower directly affects the CVLs attack damage during the shelling phase even if they are equipped only with PLANES. Read the wiki next time. Combat page for this info, to be specific.

>> No.11644354

>>11644350
why in the world would you load CLs with planes only? thats downright stupid

also, fuck this capcha shit, Its a massive pain to make even a single post

>> No.11644359

>>11644353
Those are bomber IIRC. I use 4xrare torpedo.
Well, maybe that's retarded.

>> No.11644361

>>11644354
No one's forcing you to post in /jp/.

>>11644359
"torpedo" on your CVL are bombers as well.

>> No.11644362

Anon who lost Kongou to a stupid move during the event, after many failed attempts at a BB craft which led to getting Hiei, and even fucking getting Kirishima who was the last Kongou sister I needed for 4th fleet, I've finally crafted another Kongou.

>> No.11644363

>>11644354
>why in the world would you load CLs with planes only?
Your opponent brought four submarines to PvP and you only have 12 combined sonar and depth charge.

>> No.11644364

>>11644362
But she's not the one you sent to the depth of the cold water, to be forever alone, crying in the dark.

>> No.11644367

>>11644364
With 3x 46cm cannons, goddamn I gave her my best equipment.

>> No.11644369

>>11644364
I'm pretty sure they're the exact same person.

>> No.11644371

>>11644367
Do you want to be congratulated on playing like an idiot and losing your precious kanmusu and equipment? Congrats.

>> No.11644375

Cut-in or double attack?

>> No.11644376

>>11644371
Yes please.

>> No.11644377
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11644377

>>11643491 and
>>11644249 here
Finally, I did E-5, even got a Naganami on my last try. I got Agano on my third try at E-3 boss too, what is this?

Took me 13 hours, 130 buckets and 20k/10k/15k/7k resources, I got day battle on half of the second nodes, I guess because I didn't have any 46cm, though it still wasn't as annoying as E-4.
I started sparkling Kitaooi after the HP bar was empty, it wasn't worth doing it before, got no 16 hours to play.

Sorry for the blogging.

>> No.11644387

>>11644377
I'm waiting for the day when they change beaver. I just can't stand her face. Looks too brain damaged for me

>> No.11644388

>>11644375
800 damage kitaooi cut-in or bust.

>> No.11644396

>>11644388
double dmg for E5. You need the 15.5cm for the AA as well. Rolling sanshikidan as well in order to minimize the effect of the opening bombardment.

>> No.11644418

>>11644396
15.5 cm doesn't do AA by itself.

>> No.11644446

>>11644418
>>11644396
Thought that sanshikidan is required, or does the + AA rating apply even without it?

>> No.11644460

>>11644446
well without something to shoot, the AA isn't very useful
Sanshiki makes them shoot planes regardless of cannons

>> No.11644468

>>11644387
She was so cute though when:
Boss: 沈みなさい!
雪風: 雪風は沈みません!
I can't hate her now.

>> No.11644469

anyone here using that sanaechan thing or kancolle viewer? I tried following the FAQ for sanaechan but I don't really get how the tool is supposed to get data ( or what menu does what )

any help please?

>> No.11644470

>>11644460
Wrong, Maya with 2x 20.3 + radar + Sanshiki will not participate in the opening air raid. Test it yourself.

>> No.11644471

>>11644388
Isn't the damage capped at 320+modifiers or something? That's what I remember reading, and that's exactly why double attack is more useful.

>> No.11644476

>>11644470
can't test that because I have no sanshiki.

was just following the wiki since every time someone asks anything here people will go WIKI WIKI READ THE WIKI WIKI WIKI WIKI
so I did.

>> No.11644479

>>11644387
Bad art is 70% of the appeal.

>> No.11644484

>>11644470
Because you put sanshiki on the last slot.

>> No.11644547

E-4 is seriously demoralizing

I guess this is as far as my luck can take me I can't even reach the boss node.

What were you guys using to reach the boss to chip the gauge away? an all out attack from 100% to 0 is out of my capabilities now like I did from E-1 to E-3.

>> No.11644549

>>11644547
I rolled 2 Kongous, KTKM and Ooi. I basically took Maya and non-CA Mogami to remodel and forced them in.

>> No.11644551

>>11644547
You can use the throwaway DD tactic or start using your damecons. From some posts and screenshots I've seen, those that use the former usually had 2 hitters, either mainstays of their fleet or low level Kongou-class BBs.

>> No.11644556

So what are the chances that the event ships will become drops/craftable? I know that Musashi will be hoarded away like Yamato, but what about the submarines and CLs?
How long am I looking at waiting for a chance to craft them?

>> No.11644570

>>11644556
1~2 months.

>> No.11644571

>>11644556
You can craft them later on. Kumano and Suzuya are examples of this, and I think that the subs are going that way as well.

I am worry about the holo drop only ship right now though. Achtacht will be very hard to get as a gold sub, nevermind Yahagi.

>> No.11644572

>>11644556
2 months at best

>> No.11644578

How about the torpedo from E-3?
Last event's equipment still isn't craftable right?

>> No.11644579

>>11644556
I've seen a twitter post saying that they will be obtainable but exact dates haven't been disclosed. It's not really something to worry about. One way or another you're going to throw away a lot of resources to get the ships you want.

>> No.11644582

>>11644579
Right now the only event ship I want is AchtAcht.
I already know that I'll never get Musashi.

>> No.11644588

How much of a bad idea is using a sub at E-4 to redirect most of the fire away from my heavy hitters?

>> No.11644584

>>11644578
that torp might not be craftble. Even the quintuple torp isn't craftible.

>> No.11644595

>>11644588
pretty bad. the real problematic units are CA and BB and they cant attack subs anyway

>> No.11644599

>>11644588
>Throwaway sub runs
DO IT!

>> No.11644603
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>>11644588
This is what I used to beat E4. High level sub is good at drawing enemy fire.

>> No.11644606

Guys, if I put 3x10cm on Shigure, will she still do double attack or is it counted as cut-in setup with 3main gun?

>> No.11644610

>>11644588
It makes the first node a freebie unless you get unlucky with the CA showing up. I did it with the fodder strategy for a while and barely lost a ship. The entire map relies on you barely surviving at orange health so removing half the enemy ships from the equation makes a big difference. It also means one less damage control if she's decked out and you don't put her in flagship and since she's kinda worthless at the boss node there's a better chance of reaching day. Just try it a few times, you'll be stuck on E-4 for a while anyway.

>> No.11644615

>>11644606
no

>> No.11644611

>>11644606
double attack or cut-in. You are likely to get cut-in with shigure kai2 though, with that 50 luck.

>> No.11644619

>>11644599
Who are you qouting? Just kidding.
>>11644588
Anyway, I'm actually someone who tried using a sub at E-4 and it worked just fine though I should have used Goya instead of Iku seeing how good Yukikaze performed for most people. Though don't take my word for it since I also used a CV at E-4 thinking Kaga would have max ammo during the day phase and would wreck the boss, I never got around to seeing what damage she would have done since for some odd reason the enemy got her to moderate damage all the time.

>> No.11644624

>>11644603
T-level 91
All ships below 60
That's pretty hilarious.

>> No.11644625

>>11644611
So it works like this, if cut-in fail fallback to double attack?
Or is it just random and you might get a single attack?
I am trying to find the best composition for the middle route. Need to compensate for the huge AA stats loss from removing 1BB.

>> No.11644628
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11644628

>>11644624
because I was having too much fun with this!

>> No.11644630

>>11644625
It doesn't fall back to a double attack, it's a cut-in or bust.

>> No.11644652
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11644652

>>11644624
>>11644628
I actually had to read lowbie's guide to do E4 and E5 tbh. I spent the time to try sub cheesing E5 for a few days. It got my Achtacht from 36 to 65 in a day, but didn't do anything to the boss, and constant B rating didn't get me any good drop whatsoever.

>> No.11644665

Why is everyone playing this game?
>/a/
>/jp/
>/c/
>/u/

>> No.11644668

>>11644665
Because it's the next touhou, except financially successful.

>> No.11644675

Is there a guide to running 2-3 with subs?

>> No.11644676

>>11644603
Wait, if such a fleet can beat E4, then maybe it's time for me to try E2....

>> No.11644680

>>11644676
Friendly reminder that if you're autistic enough you can beat it with a level 1 fleet.

>> No.11644679

>>11644675
pray for dodge
max out defense
pray for dodge
pray for dodge
pray for killing the DD/CL
dont bother with night battle

>> No.11644681

>>11644676
look. what it boils down to is to have enough sanshikidan, sparkle and RNG luck. Everyone carrying sanshikidan made killing Henderson-chan much more manageable.

>> No.11644684
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11644684

>>11644676
I've been running E2, with decent results (the bar is about halfway depleted) with this fleet.
So yeah, it's not like E2 is hard or anything.

>> No.11644688

>>11644665
Wait. It's in 4 boards? Seriously, why don't just stay at one?

>>11644668
As a touhou fan, I am depressed.

>> No.11644691

>>11644680
nope. you can score a win and shave hp from boss, but you will never kill henderson-chan doing this.

>> No.11644692

>>11644681
Luck can be countered by simply having enough resources.

>> No.11644697

>>11644681
>sparkle
God, I hate that mechanism to hell
>>11644680
>>11644681
>>11644684
The only issue is that my teitoku level is low, so I can't accumulate enough resources to even have a chance on E4-5. Also, not enough buckets.

>> No.11644698

>>11644688
Because no self respecting misunderstood genuis wants to interact with a crossboarder such as yourself.

>> No.11644699

>>11644692
Well, depends on how prepared you are. There are teitokus that burned through 25k and 150 buckets without beating E4. We that have managed to do it <13k for E4/E5 are considered rather lucky.

>> No.11644703

>>11644699
I stocked up 30k just in case, though. Anyone trying it out should. Really, you shouldn't attempt E4 unless you have a minimum of 20k.

>> No.11644704 [SPOILER] 
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11644704

So I just S-ranked the E5 boss fight. The drop took a while to load up, and boy I was exited, I was pretty sure that it's finally a Yahagi drop.

And then the game goes like "NOPE, FUCK YOU BUDDY, HERE HAVE THE WORST FUCKING POSSIBLE KANMUSU IN THE GAME"

God I'm so mad right now.

>> No.11644706

>>11644704
Hey, you don't actually feel that way about her. You're just mad that you didn't get Yahagi.

>> No.11644707

>>11644705
enjoying your shitty fandom kancollefags?

>> No.11644705

>>11644665
I know /a/ discuss the incoming anime and also the manga/doujin, while /jp/ discussing the game.
But, why /c/ and /u/ too? What they discussing about?

>> No.11644708

>>11644665
Is there an irc too?
That would make things alot easier, since I don't have to keep saying who I am when I post about my progress.

>> No.11644710

>>11644705
/c/ is an image dump for cute 2D girls.

/u/ is an image dump for cute 2D girls fucking.

Do the math.

>> No.11644711

>>11644705
/u/ discusses the intense gayness of the girls for their sister-ships
like Kitakami and Ooi
Chitose and Chiyoda
Fusou and Yamashiro
All Kongous
Akagi and Kaga
Tatsuta and Tenryuu
and so forth

>> No.11644715

>>11644708
You can shitpost about kancolle in #commie-subs since they do that fairly often and commie devs are into the game.

>> No.11644716

For E5, the middle route is definitely tougher than the north. I am not making it to the boss node at all. 2hit direct hit to a single ship from 3nodes and it is retreat time. But at least it is cheap.

>> No.11644712

>>11644704
That's not what spoilers are used for.
Please delete your post and do it again.

>> No.11644713

>>11644707
this.
Waiting for the fandom to die out, like SnK a few months ago.

>> No.11644718

>>11644713
way too big and growing too fast to die out

>> No.11644719

>>11644715
What does commie develop?
I thought they did anime translations.

>> No.11644722

>>11644713
SnK is still going very strong though, and will continue to grow as long as the mangaka keeps churning out interesting chapters last the last few.

>> No.11644724

>>11644719
they don't develop anything
morons just call them "devs" because thats a stupid meme that somehow has persisted these past months

>> No.11644723

>>11644711
As someone who has Chikuma as his highest leveled CA, it saddens me that she and Tone are left out in these pairings. Not because I want them to be discussed but more like people don't actually bother using them.

>> No.11644725

>>11644722
*like the last few

>> No.11644726

>>11644724
>they don't develop anything
morons just call them "devs" because thats a stupid meme that somehow has persisted these past months
Try years

>> No.11644727

>>11644718
Same with SnK they said a few months ago. Wouldn't get your hopes too high.
>>11644722
Still, it pretty much died out.

>> No.11644730

>>11644723
Chikuma and Tone don't have the most amazing art and they're kinda rare at the start. they're also not very exceptional in any way. I'd read a doujin about Wagahai seducing Chikuma though.

>>11644727
you can hope all you want for it to die out but they keep pumpking out new girls, new events and people get really attached to their favorite ships. YOU shouldn't get your hopes up too high.

>> No.11644736

>>11644723
tone arts are not moe

>> No.11644737

>>11644730
物极必反 月满则亏 It will certainly decline if they start to commercialize it too much.

>> No.11644744

>>11644727
SnK story went down the drain.

Kancolle has new event every 4months or so. The hype will never go away unless they ditch the game and stop updating it.

This a good question though, what if they ran out of girls to update?

>> No.11644745

>>11644727
Like any internet sensation, kancolle's popularity has to hit a peak and then start waning, until of course the whole thing ends/servers shut down, ending its lifespan with one last sprint of popularity. The question is whether we've hit this peak or we haven't.
I'd argue that the anime will end up being the peak of the franchise.

>> No.11644747

>>11644744
Considering they haven't even touched USN, RN or KM, I doubt they'd run out of kanmusu any time soon.

>> No.11644749

>>11644744
It's not profitable though. Will wait until they get sick of it. Not sure if the media would get them much money.

>> No.11644752

>>11644744
Kancolle II, kantai mecha musume in space fighting BETAs.
Or, Kancolle 0, pre-WWII that stars Mikasa.

>> No.11644753

>>11644744
There's still quite a lot of IJN ships not incorporated into the game say the Akizuki class. If they decide to go like WoT and include unfinished ships then more even so. And it will be a lot more if they decided to include foreign ships as well.

>> No.11644755

>>11644745
I think "we" have. To the extend of Touhou, I'm pretty sure it would. Marasy even uploaded a video of it moments ago.

>> No.11644756

>>11644744
every 3 months so far
may, august, november. probably gonna have a small christmas event

->>11644749
>not profitable
what.
have you seen the amount of money people throw at this?

>> No.11644760

>>11644756
The devs themselves have said that the game itself isn't very profitable, and that they're planning on selling merchandise and goods to make profits.

>> No.11644762

>>11644756
>profitable
The chairman of the board of directors of Kadokawa Group Holdings, Yoshihiko Kadokawa, stated that despite the game's popularity, Kantai Collection is nearly unprofitable for the company, in part due to the game being funded by various company partnerships.

From wikipeedia

>> No.11644766

>>11644760
I feel that Kadokawa is betting on the anime to drive in profit.

>> No.11644767

>>11644744
Why kc won't be going away soon :
Here are some cute girls and their base personality, now go crazy. Pixiv artists picked it up and carry the rest until something better comes.

It's the same recipe of how im@s' CG got huge.

>> No.11644768

>>11644760
Bring on the figures

>> No.11644769

>>11644755
That Marasy arrangement was pretty disappointing besides 0:59.

>> No.11644771

>>11644760
not VERY profitable and being not profitable entirely are two very big differences
and people will buy merchandise of this. a LOT.

>>11644762
I wonder from when that statement is.


Let me buy Kongou and Hiei figures already so I can put them together in a hand crafted miniature bed.

>> No.11644772

>>11644760
That's mostly them covering for the costs of expansion. That report gets blown out of proportion a lot, the game is keeping afloat and they're expecting huge profits off merchandising, some of which has already sold like crazy. By the time the next event comes around things will probably be stable but I see people acting like the sky is falling and they're going to shut the game down. It takes a lot more than you think to cope with this level of popularity and that's way more than they had at the time.

>> No.11644778

>>11644760
Most people already ran out of storage space.
You have gotta spend money to buy more storage to get all the new girls. It is a goldmine to be honest.

>> No.11644774

>>11644760
And kancolle is still very much a free game. Spending a bit of money on docks doesn't bring much money even if a ton of people do it, compared to mobile games where people are shelling out hundreds of dollars to play a gacha.

>> No.11644775

>>11644744
>what if they ran out of girls to update?
I wonder what happens when they run out of room in that in-game library thing. Will they stop adding girls then? Or maybe they will just completely redesign that screen to add more room.

>> No.11644777

>>11644771
>merchandise
Have you ever seen people crazing over mobile games merchandise? True, they buy it, but only a small portion.

>> No.11644780

>>11644771
Without the actual figures, we can only guess from the tone of that interview. Considering just how fucking high the number of daily active users is (400k+), the reasonable cash shop item "requirement" and pricing barely covering the servers' costs makes sense. I'm sure they'll rake in money with the merchandises though.
>a LOT.
Also, please stop typing like that.

>> No.11644783

>>11644780
Can't blame him. He is most probably new.

>> No.11644784

>>11644772
It's obvious that this game can stay afloat. However, the post of was quoting was claiming that this game was a big financial success. Something like Pazudora is a big financial success.
This game itself is a modest success if anything.

>> No.11644785

>>11644777
except this isn't a mobile game
in fact, playing on a phone is OFFICIALLY discouraged

>> No.11644786

>>11644785
Games come and go. The next thing you know, a new game gets released and everyone goes hype on it instead.

>> No.11644789

>>11644767
This.
Im guessing the imas game is taking a major hit from kc right now.

>> No.11644791

>>11644786
Type-moon, Im@s, Vocaloid and Touhou were all from pre 2010.
When was the last time a franchise actually got so big in niconico?

>> No.11644793

Musashi sure gets lively after the remodel.

>> No.11644795

>>11644791
SnK?

>> No.11644800

>>11644791
Does SnK count? These things fade, but we have to see C86 to know more. There were pretty good reasons why Touhou wasn't commercialized.

>> No.11644801

>>11644795
>>11644800
snk didn't even reach madoka level of popularity to be honest.

>> No.11644807

>>11644801
I frequently dominated pixiv rankings, as well as mmd video charts.

>> No.11644808

>>11644801
Google trends to show you how that's not true.

>> No.11644816

It doesn't matter what level of super popular KanColle is at.
All that matters is that it won't be going away anytime soon.
There is a VITA game coming as well.

>> No.11644819

>>11644816
That would decide it's fate. If the game critics hate it, it would be notorious instead.

>> No.11644820
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11644820

I just realized that this thread has 315 posts, only 29 images, 90% being screenshots.
Where's the cuteposting?

>> No.11644824

>>11644820
on /c/ and /u/ respectively
you can find disgusting het porn of KC on /a/

>> No.11644835

>>11644820
Why is atago long

>> No.11644837

>>11644820
I wish she looks like that, the body curve of Atago and Takao is all wrong in the game.

>> No.11644851

Just a question guys, which area is currently more effective in grinding for points for your admiral rank?

E-5? 5-2? or the good o' but unreliable 2-3?

>> No.11644877

>>11644851
i think 2-3. e5 is an expensive way to grind t level.

>> No.11644886

>>11644819
The gameplay of kancolle is not selling point. It is all about the girls and their ww2 history.

>> No.11644898

Agano has a DD voice, but a CL body. I'm not sure how I feel about this.

>> No.11644909

>>11644886
Yeah. History. Critics won't like it though. They dislike weeb shit.

>> No.11644912

>>11644909
Famitsu only cares about how much the developers pay them.

>> No.11644914
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11644914

My body has been filled with hope

Also while I'm at it I thought subs couldn't target Henderson-chan at all?because my Iku fired a normal attack at her at the start of the night battle and did 49 damage.

>> No.11644916

>>11644886
pretty much. kancolle is about the ships and it's the story behind them that sticks with the players.

>> No.11644922

>>11644914
Only subs can for some reason

>> No.11644927

i just started the game yesterday and spent time crafting BBs, CAs. Is there any way to beat E1?

>> No.11644935

>>11644927
you need carriers and your shit needs to be like lvl 20+

>> No.11644932

>>11644914
You just used up all your luck in killing henderson-chan. Good luck doing the final blow once the hp bar is depleted.

>> No.11644943

>>11644935
You don't NEED carriers, I did it without the first few times.
That said, they do help and he probably doesn't have the volume of BBs to make up for having low level ships.

>> No.11644940

>>11644935
you ought to get your ships to the point that they can be remodeled.

>> No.11644948
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11644948

FUCK YEAH
I AM DONE WITH THIS SHITTY EVENT

>> No.11644950

>>11644932
Yeah I only got 75 buckets and 9k steel

now I'm torn if I let her repair and use my time to gather enough resources for a all out attack in a few days or take this chance and try to finish her off in one go.

I feel the RNG goddess telling me "Its now or never idiot go all out" but still...

>> No.11644954

>>11644948
Not your blog, no one cares.

>> No.11644961

>>11644954
So what do you want to talk about then?

>> No.11644965

>>11644954
I like seeing the accomplishments of my senior teitokus as a new player.

>> No.11644966

>>11644940
>>11644935
thanks, ill keep grinding expedition 5 and sortie 1-1-1

>> No.11644972

>>11644966
Keep a Shigure, a Yuudachi and a Hibiki around to level them up.

>> No.11644971

>>11644966
>1-1-1
Do a CV recipe and get Akagi from the quest. Grind on 2-2 instead.

>> No.11644974

>>11644961
If you lost a ship, post a story so we can feel better about ourselves. Classic schadenfreude.

Seriously though, stories about your experiences are fine, but YAHAGI GET shitposting should be kept to the English wiki.

>> No.11644975

>>11644974
you're just mad you don't have yahagi

>> No.11644976

My Mutsu is almost ready to remodel, I feel like I've finally accomplished something.

>> No.11644979

>>11644974
You expect these faggots who are new to 4chan in general to follow standard of practice around here?

>> No.11644980

>>11644975
of course we're fucking mad
you would be mad too
and yes, "SHIP GET" posts are shitposting

>> No.11644982

>>11644980
No proper capitalization and punctuation in your posts are considered shitpost as well.

>> No.11644983

>>11644975
I actually do have her, I just didn't mention it because I enjoy the feeling of a self-righteous holier-than-thou feeling when I post. That still doesn't excuse shitposting though.

>> No.11644984

>>11644979
I think you're the one who is new.
Also, /jp/ is not 4chan.
Posting on /jp/ requires transitioning into a completely different mindset than that used on other boards.

>> No.11644991
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11644991

i regret everything i have ever done

>> No.11644992 [DELETED] 

>>11644984
Aren't we elitist now

Also, wow, people making a big deal out of capitalizing words and punctation. On 4chan. It's so ridiculously absurd that I don't even know what to say.

except fuck you i dont give a shit about punctation and capitalization

>> No.11644998

>>11644991
Are you retarded?

>> No.11644993 [DELETED] 

>>11644984
>/jp/ is not 4chan
>implying /jp/ is elite
>jesus christ
>u must live a meaningful life

>> No.11644996

>>11644984
This is what people who came here after the split actually believe. /jp/ is, and has always been, a containment board.

>> No.11645000

>>11644991
Great job teitoku!

>> No.11645001

>>11644991
Haha! What a scrub.

>> No.11645003

>>11644998
i am starting to think so

>> No.11645004

>>11644991
How the fuck did you do that, why did you keep her as a flagship??

... was she orange or red?

>> No.11645006
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11645006

>>11644991
There are people still stupid enough to go into a new node with a red damaged event only ship.

>> No.11645008

>>11644996
If you're looking for the containment board, you should just go back to /a/.

>> No.11645010

>>11645004
Was using someone else for more exp. I tabbed out during battle and forgot about it. Came back an hour later and just went without looking.

>>11645006
Nope. Just playing around 4-1. Nothing new. I'm dumb.

>> No.11645012

>ERROR Be unjust Request Products

Oh, ok.

>> No.11645021
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11645021

Paying this much for a chance to get Kumano and Nagato isnt that bad.

>> No.11645025

>>11644971
the RNG gods are hating me since after many sorties and burning fuel, it wont let compass me to the boss in 1-3

>> No.11645028
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11645028

man sparkling an entire fleet is fucking annoying, but definitely a must if going for S-rank on the boss. finally got my first 46cm from Musashi.

also you guys are liars. 45ish A/S ranks on E-5-1 and haven't gotten a single sub yet (or anything else worth mentioning for that matter).

>> No.11645037

>>11645028
You're fucking retarded, that's all I have to say after trying to comprehend your shitpost.

>> No.11645035

>>11645028
> first 46cm
pfft ahahaha. Good work on finishing the event with just 41cm guns.

The subs's drop rate are probably 2% each on that node. It's not that surprising.

>> No.11645042

>>11645037
not as shit as your whining shitpost

>> No.11645045

>>11645035
>probably 2% each on that node
i remember someone using the phrase "like candy" and getting my hopes up because i don't have a Goya yet. oh well.

>>11645037
i don't know what's so confusing about it, but i apologize.

>> No.11645054

>>11645045
>I don't have a Goya yet
I feel sorry for you, I'm grappling with E2 and don't even think I'll be able to handle E3, and I have a Goya.

>> No.11645056

>>11645045
I didnt lie though. They are definitely common, see >>11643454. I just got another Imuya off today run. You just need to get more Perfect S. Maybe ranking does actually affect the drop rate.
The irony is, I still dont have an Agano.

>> No.11645071

>>11645056
In a way it does. Say for example you're always getting B-ranks, the chance of getting Gold background should be zero.

>> No.11645077

>>11645056
The very fact that Yahagi only drops on A or S, and that she has a double drop rate on S basically confirms that the ranking directly affects available drops.

It would be highly unlikely that they would implement a completely new drop formula just for Yahagi instead of simply putting her into the preexisting algorithm.

>> No.11645080
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11645080

I can do it

I'm incredibly hyped right now

I can feel the blessing of the RNG goddess on me.


This will only end in either my complete victory or defeat.

65 buckets and 8k steel remain started with 80/10k

>> No.11645088

>>11645054
if you have 2-3 remodeled CV(L)s and 15k or more resources you can probably handle E-3. i'd recommend not wasting too many buckets on E-2 if you plan to try it (since the boss gauge doesn't regenerate).

>>11645056
>Maybe ranking does actually affect the drop rate
recently i've been noticing that it seems to increase both the drop rate and the chance that the drop will be rare (in my small sample of sorties).

>> No.11645091

>>11645080
Steel isn't what you should be worried about, fuel and ammo will generally deplete at a much higher rate.

>> No.11645100

>>11645091
I have double the amount of fuel and ammo compared to steel

the only thing really putting a dent on my resources is the repairs

>> No.11645108

>>11645100
You can always cheese with lvl1 scrap materials to save cost. Give them a chance to contribute before going into the incinerator.

>> No.11645122

>>11645100
There's a reason why people sometimes use over 20k fuel on E-4. It's used up in sorties, expeditions, and repair, so it often gets consumed at twice the rate. Sparkling everyone takes a good amount of fuel and ammo too, but greatly improves your chance of getting a kill. Just wait until she gets to 0 HP, I spend 3/4 of my time and resources just trying to get the final kill.

>> No.11645134

>>11645122
I guess shouldn't worry then since I'm running without fleet support

My biggest issue is *getting* to the boss and whenever I did get there it was always either major damage or kill.

>> No.11645156

>>11645071
Speaking of gold at E5, I did get a gold background ship. being Ooi.
That's with B finish, with subs.

>> No.11645158

Good thing about E-5 is that S rank always yields a rare ship but so far I am getting what I already have.

>> No.11645163

>>11645158
Not true, I got just got a Myoukou from an S rank.

>> No.11645165

>>11645158
Tell that to my Wagahai and Choukai

>> No.11645166

>>11645158
Not true.
S rank finish gave me Kako and Myoko. I was furious at how that all of my efforts were netting me pure crap tbh.

>> No.11645169

>>11645163
Kumano is a rare ship

>> No.11645185

>>11645158
Tell that to my Takao and Myouko class.

>> No.11645225

Is it just me or is it much harder to reach the boss now? I've been going NE all day today, and I'm using the exact same lineup as I did previously.

>> No.11645263

any good recipes on submarines?

>> No.11645275

>>11645263
No.

>> No.11645306

>>11645263
30/31/32/33/34 is pretty good

>> No.11645311

>>11645306
So what's the fifth resource? The amount of luck you need to sacrifice?

>> No.11645316

>>11645263
I think I got my Goya from the barebones rare destroyer/submarine recipe.

>> No.11645321

>>11645263
30/30/30/30 is good.

>> No.11645344

>>11645311

The amount of hatesex with the RNG Goddess required.

>> No.11645346
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11645346

>>11645263
Try the normal recipe 250/130/200/30, you might lucky to get a SS.

>> No.11645353

>>11645263
Grind hardcore to beat E1 and E4 and then farm them on E5. I considered crafting as cheating.

>> No.11645369
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11645369

Brilliant.

>> No.11645388
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11645388

Welp, I guess that's game over for this event. E-4 drained everything in 16 hours all for nothing. Oh well, there's always next event. Time for bed.

>> No.11645392

>>11645388
It's your fault for putting such a shitty ship in the last slot.

>> No.11645405

>>11645388
Replace Mutsu with CA or even DD.

>> No.11645407
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11645407

Just a little more and it shall be over...

I have to finish this before the blessing of the RNG goddess runs out.

>> No.11645410

>>11645407
>still equipping damcons
Do you not trust jaypee?

>> No.11645413

>>11645410
I trust that it is *possible* to sink at orange but that the chance is still far smaller than at red

still I would never use those otherwise.

>> No.11645416

Holy shit the compass actually let me reach the boss after two perfect nodes in E-5. Must be like a 10% chance or something.

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11645442

>>11645413
>I trust that it is *possible* to sink at orange
I see that there are still people doubting /jp/.

>> No.11645453

>>11645413
For what it's worth, I just did some testing with an orange ship at red fatigue while doing my fleet sparkling. It was taken to the red during day, and came out alive at night with 1 hp.

>> No.11645468
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11645468

E5 done, pic shows my start/end time and resources along with the fleet I used (date/time is Tokyo). Ships shows are the ones that I got via random drop (missing Suzuya, which I forgot to take a screencap of). Overall my net loss was as follows:

Fuel: 14,202
Ammo: 15,398
Steel: 12,397
Bauxite: +1,005
Buckets: 116

Fleet equip:
Kongou: 46cm/41cm/21 radar/12cm rockets
Haruna: 46cm/41cm/21 radar/12cm rockets
Atago: 15.5cm vice x2/21 radar/12cm rockets
Maya: 20.3cm x2/21 radar/12cm rockets
Ooi: 15.5cm vice x2/minisub
Kitakami: 15.5cm vice x2/minisub

Support fleet equip:
Zuiho: 4x red holo planes
Chitose: 4x blue holo planes
Shimakaze: 10cm main gun x3
Yuudachi: 10cm main gun x3
Hiei: 41cm x4
Mutsu: 46cm/41cm x2/91 ammo

I did move around the formation a bit as you can see from the image but I never changed weapons or used DC. It took almost exactly 7 hours and 45 minutes during which time I sortied 42 times. I encountered the boss 13 times before I got her down to <10% health, after which I had to fight her 3 more times before I finished her off. Out of the other 26 sorties, I was sent NE to the "J" node 10 times - 4 times after I had gotten her to 0% health and 3 times in a row out of those - which was really frustrating. The rest of the sorties were of course retreats due to red ships before the boss node, but overall I think I didn't do so bad. E4 took 70something sorties and a whole day to clear so this was considerably easier.

Image also shows my support fleet's impact on the final battle. My torpedo monsters took out the final fortress and heavily damaged the last princess, who died after the first shelling round. This left my entire fleet to slap the boss around a bit before the night phase, where it only took 3 ships to finish her.

>> No.11645506

>「艦これ」開発/運営 ‏@KanColle_STAFF 6h
【11/27 09:00】からの「艦これ」全サーバ群共通メンテナンス&アップデートでは…
>●サーバ&システムメンテナンス
>●秋の特別イベント:期間限定海域の終了
>●家具の更新(秋家具&長門桐箪笥配信終了/冬家具の投入)
>●一部UI系の強化&補強等
>…を予定しています。
So no new ships after the next maintenance? Isn't it sad, Haruna?

>> No.11645516

>>11645506
>秋家具&長門桐箪笥配信終了
>秋家具
Shit I still havent get the 20k wallpaper.

>> No.11645521

>>11645468
Did you ever night battle with a ship that went red during the day?

>> No.11645537

>>11645521
Yes, numerous times. There were a few runs where I went into a night battle on the boss with 2-3 red ships. I'm not going to say that its "impossible" for a ship to sink in that situation, but it has never happened to me. There were a few instances where the boss would perform a cut-in attack on a red ship with 1 hp but she would always miss. Not sure if you can make a direct correlation between the fact that cut-ins "can't miss" but they did in fact miss on a ship with 1 hp.

I wouldn't risk something like that with a very rare/event only ship, or in a case where you may not have a viable replacement if that ship does in fact die. Realistically you probably aren't going to be sinking the boss during a run where you go into the night phase with several red ships as they don't do anything at night when red, but you never know - RNG is fickle as hell in this game.

>> No.11645571

>>11645537
Well, I'll give it a shot first with repairs. Time to experiment.

>> No.11645584

>>11645468
Lucky. I just started on E5. I've been rerouted to other nodes very often. Very exasperated now.

>> No.11645588

>>11645369
Just realized that Platoon poster. I'd totally watch that.

>> No.11645592

>>11645537
You wont get a S rank yes, but it is the difference between getting A and C. Always go to night battle if you have the chance to sink 4enemies.

>> No.11645597

Oh boy it looks like people are done flaunting Musashi and now it's time for Yahagi instead.

>> No.11645609

>>11645584
You say "nodes" but do you really mean multiple destinations or just the northeast "J" node? If you go the nothern route with all fast ships and 2x Kongous then you should only have a chance to be sent off-course after the purple storm node. If you go through the middle route then there is no way to be sent off-course, although you do have to deal with an extra battle via that route.

I don't think anybody chances the southern route unless they have no choice due to ship availability. It requires 3 battles before the boss node and has a chance for a deadend. There is no point risking 3 fights and a deadend when you have an alternative that gets you to the boss with zero chance of a deadend.

>> No.11645618
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11645618

Being Shigure is suffering.

>> No.11645620

>>11645609
I mean the north one, yes. I suppose my stress can be seen through how lazy my typing has become. With only 4 days to go before event ends, I'm really on my wits end, and this is something completely outside my control - It's not a lineup problem, nor a weapons problem, it's motherfucking RNG.

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>>11645618
Being Maikaze is worse

>> No.11645667

>>11645644
Can't wait for sad Yahagi fanarts. She has lots of memories, from watching Shoukaku's sinking to Ten-Go.

>> No.11645684
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11645684

Why

If I was just a bit earlier

Ugh I can still go on for a few more runs

1k steel and 15 buckets remain

>> No.11645692

>>11645620
Just push through it. Once I got the boss to 0% my runs went like this:

J - deadend
Boss - 171/400
Boss - 217/400
J - deadend
J - deadend
J - deadend
D - retreat
A - retreat
J - deadend, all ships green
D - retreat
A - retreat
Boss - 125/400, got to boss w/ all ships green
D - retreat
Boss - Final kill, got to boss w/ 1 orange

There were a few points where I took a break for 15-20 min to cook some food or do something else - most of the time it was because a ship was fatigued but undamaged so no bucket available to clear it. I had to stop on E4 for a few hours to sleep and because I was completely frustrated. Just don't give up.

>> No.11645702

>>11645684
Each full kill is like 8hours.
Just sleep for 8hours and get your bucket up.

>> No.11645717

>>11645692
The thing is, I've only whacked out about 2 large bars of her HP (out of 7), and I'm considering if I should push on or retreat to save resources. I think I'm having a bad day.

>> No.11645723

>>11645717
What's your total resource count?

>> No.11645748

>>11645723
After a few dozen dead end runs, I'm down to 19,400 fuel, 20,028 ammo and 15,388 steel. I started with ~30k fuel, ~30k ammo and ~20k steel.

>> No.11645753

>>11645748
That's not bad, you can just keep pushing. Still you seem to be burning through resources pretty fast. I hope you're not sending support expeditions out.

>> No.11645762

gonna attempt E-3 later on, do I need support expeditions for this?

>> No.11645765

>>11645762
not at all. I managed to eat it in an hour with no support.

>> No.11645778

5 E-7 S-ranks later and still no Agano. I wonder if it's better after all to farm E-6 for her instead?

>> No.11645779

>>11645762
For clearing, hell no. For farming, you might want to for ensuring S score.

>> No.11645784

>>11645778
Yeah, because E-6 has a smaller loot table so you should have a higher chance of getting what you want more often.

>> No.11645787

Fuck, I accidentally send my main fleet into an expedition.

Someone will get scapped for this.

>> No.11645791

>>11645787
you can send your main fleet into expedition? how?

>> No.11645794

>>11645787
Hah, no.

>> No.11645795

>>11645787
>Fuck, I accidentally send my main fleet into an expedition.
Then what's your first fleet composed of?

>> No.11645802

>>11645784
Guess I'll try that then, although I only have 14k bauxite. I kind of forgot what the best formation was for that map... it was something like CVL/CV/CV/BB/CLT/CLT?

>> No.11645804

>>11645791
I had my main girls in group 2. Group 1 had some pawns.

>> No.11645807

>>11645802
You can drop CVL for a BBCV, I think.

>> No.11645810

>>11645807
Doesn't putting aviation ships risk you zigzagging across the map?

>> No.11645819

>>11645810
I was often zigzagged even with that setup. From your post, I'd assume you're lacking of bauxite. Putting BBCV instead of CVL will still keep your fleet from de-toured at last node, iirc.

>> No.11645823

>>11645810
Not him but yes. You will go south, east, into the imaginary node and north before going go to the boss node if you have BAV. But RNG whims may send you directly to the first node.

However, 2 CLT is a bit less reliable than a DD and CA, in my opinion.

>> No.11645824

>>11645819
And 'with that setup', of course it's about 1 BB, 2CV, 1 CVL, 2 CLT.

>> No.11645843

>>11645802
Always go with 2CLT+3CV/L+BB
You want to kill everything during the air raid and preemptive torpedo phase

>> No.11645853
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11645853

Zuihou is now used good

>> No.11645860

>>11645853
OH MY GOD.

Where's the rest of the scans?

>> No.11645872

>Yahagi drops at the E-5 boss nodes for A and S rating. The rate is reported to be 1% for A and 2% for S

If this is true, I may as well just kill myself now. 30k all resources, but I spent 15-18k just clearing E-5.

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>>11645853
I will take her in.

>> No.11645884

>>11645872
>The rate is reported to be 1% for A and 2% for S
Rate is way higher than that. Higher than Agano E3 drop rate for example.

>> No.11645888

>>11645872
Agano is supposed to have around 3% drop rate in E-3. Yet I did around 100+ sorties in that place and still no Agano.

>> No.11645899

Hopefully yahagi will be craftable later on as I am close to giving up to farm E-7. After 2-3 days of bleeding myself dry, I only managed about 5-6 S ranks. I could have crafted 20-30 times with Nagato recipe.

>> No.11645902

There's no way for a DD to do the sliding motion AA and yet have torpedo cut-ins, right?

>> No.11645906

>>11645888
I feel your pain.

I've temporary switched to Yahagi farming.

I know someone who got her in less than 25 sorties while I'm nearing 75

This game always does a good job at keeping me demoralized

>> No.11645910

>>11645753
I can't help it, most of my runs are dead-end runs, so the resources gets wasted.

>> No.11645914

>>11645902
Main gun on the first slot, green gun on the second and torpedo on the third?

>> No.11645923

>>11645914
Mixed cut-in does lower damage than pure torpedo. It doesn't have a large enough edge over double attack to be worth using IMO. Thing is I want my DD to shoot planes too since 63 AA is still pretty significant.

>> No.11645933
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11645933

Its over

Ended losing 2 damecons in this final rush

The one thing I can be proud of is that no one sank.

I will have to lay low for a long time for to repair all this damage...

I should've just waited for the final day knowing I had no chance for Musashi anyway now I won't even bring myself to try clearing E-4 again.

>> No.11645932

>>11645923
I think 2 torpedoes could do. But for AA stats, you can't really boost that much unless you slap two 10cm on them which negate your torpedo cut-in, I think.

>> No.11645942

>>11645932
Not looking to increase AA stat. I want to use pure torpedo cut-in (2 torps) and yet have the DD be able to shoot down planes during the air combat phase. Only guns that can do that are secondary green guns which DDs can't equip.

>> No.11645947

>>11645914
2x10cm
torpedo
isn't this a cut in setup? 10cm counts as main gun according to the futaba chart.

>> No.11645950

>>11645942
DDs can equip the 25mm green guns right?

>> No.11645952

>>11645942
10cm is AA.
10cm/torp/torp will give you a torp cut in.

>> No.11645954

>>11645952
10cm is considered a main gun

>> No.11645958
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11645958

Tiny Fuso class is tiny.

>> No.11645961

>>11645950
25mm are pure AA guns. They don't trigger the forward sliding motion during aerial combat.

>>11645947
>>11645952
10cm is a main gun, it will give a mixed-cut in if paired with 1 torp.

>> No.11645962

>>11645958
Naturally boys are bigger than girls.

>> No.11645964

>>11645954
It's main/torp/torp produces a torp cut in. Two torps always can produce a torp cut in.

>> No.11645968

>>11645964
Really? I thought failing to meet the equipment requirements would give you single attack.

>> No.11645987

>>11645968
Cut-ins are affected by RNG to. Double attacks are more consistent than cut-in but they are both still governed by chance.

>> No.11645992

>>11645968
The equipment requirement for a torpedo attack is two torpedoes. The requirements are minimums, you are not penalized for adding additional weapons on top of meeting them.

>> No.11645994

>>11645933
Where are your torpedo monsters? Most people are using them to clear E4/5 in the last 2 slots. If they go into a night phase with no more than yellow damage then they have the potential of sinking the boss outright with a crit double-tap.

>> No.11646007

>>11645994
didn't consider bringing them since Ooi has been a crit magnet since E-2

I had sunk the boss several times at night battle before then but just the final kill escaped me.

Its too late for me anyway only thing I care now is bringing my resources back up to resume normal play.

>> No.11646009

>>11646007
Time to use that magic card.

>> No.11646013

>>11646007
Do you still have buckets? Then you could gather easy steel at the usual place.

>> No.11646018

So if I understand correctly, transitioning from day to night battle is safe even if your ships turned red at day? Currently I'm at E-3 boss node and need to know if ktkm won't sink.

>> No.11646020

>>11646013
Buckets and steel both zeroed and I thought no one was doing 3-2 for the steel alone anymore since its been reported as a bannable offense?]

either way my fleet right now isn't even capable of 3-2 anyone that could carry the fleet is damaged and it will take at least 3 days to repair everyone.

>> No.11646022

>>11646018
Some people swear by it. There have been at least a few reports of people losing ships from it, though. It's your decision. If your torp cruiser is in red, though, your chance of getting a successful boss kill is diminished quite a bit, though.

>> No.11646029

>>11646020
I just collected 4k steel yesterday casually doing 3-2 refreshes.

>> No.11646031

>>11646029
Reported to DMM, enjoy your casual ban.

>> No.11646032

>>11646018
we don't know if it's really safe, but someone posted a video where the ship that got shot to red in day battle didn't get hit by any of the attacks in night battle. That suggests it might be safe, but 1 sample is not enough to check if the chance is zero or just low.

I wouldn't risk a ship just for an S-rank.

>> No.11646034

>>11646020
It is but if you have subs you could have just finished the map normally.
Don't worry, there's still plenty of time. The same thing happened to me because I was lucky at E-3 I thought I'd be lucky at E-4 too but alas I ran out of buckets. On the bright side however, the second run was easier and other people claim the same thing, hang in there admiral.

>> No.11646039

>>11646020
we don't know why they ban people, we just know that they did.

banning for 3-2 abuse is most likely bullshit, though.

>> No.11646045

>>11646034
thanks for the encouragement but I don't think I will be trying again

I don't even want to look at that lifebar being back up to 21% in a few hours

specially since my second to last attempt brought it to 0.1%. >>11645684

>> No.11646047

>>11646018
No proof but I did over 100sorties for E3 and E5. I always push forward even with red ships because not having S rank after all the hardwork is dumb.
Throughout the whole event I still have zero casualty.
You can always pussy out if you are scared over an empty threat. It is your own loss anyway for not trusting /jp/.

>> No.11646051

>>11646045
>Boss health regenerates at a rate of 2.1%/hour and complete boss kill removes 17.2% of the health bar.
Spam expedition 2 and cheat at 3-2. You want that nazisub, besides you still have 4days.

>> No.11646058

>>11646022
Thanks, guess I'll err on the side of caution and retreat for now.
>>11646032
Well I'm just trying to hurry up and clear the map so I can move on to E-4. So sinking the boss would be good enough.
>>11646047
I'm still only a low level so I don't have that many high lvl ships. So yeah I guess I'll pussy out and try another sortie. Sorry for not trusting jaypee.

>> No.11646070

I am in the recovery phase from my E5 clear right now. Burning through 15k hurts.

Support fleet took so much out of me, and then there's the sparkling. I was burning through 500/500/240/0 2.7 buckets per run, It took me 30 runs to get through E5.

I really don't know if I can possibly afford to do E7 the same way as I did E5. I would be ruined at that rate, and I counted that I managed 4 S and 6 A in those attempts, with 1 C at boss.

Think about it. That translates into 1/3 chance of just getting to the boss and get something out of it... which is pretty terrible odds. The thought of 1500/1500/720/0 and 8 buckets for just 1 shot to get a holo CL?

>> No.11646081

How important are levels for a support expedition? I don't have high lvl CVLs.

>> No.11646082

>>11646081
Read the wiki.

>> No.11646084

>>11646070
You are only paying 300/500(full sortie cost) for a craft chance of getting Nagato, Kumano, Agano, Yahagi, Zuihou, subs and etc?
It is a good deal to be honest. You will only get heavily damaged on the boss node so failed run will just make you bleed steel and fuel for one ship usually CA or CLT.

>> No.11646090

Has anyone tried farming E-1?

>> No.11646091

>>11646090
only 3 rare dds drop there, check jp wiki

>> No.11646092

>>11646090
why would anyone want to do that?

>> No.11646095

>>11646091
That's not what I wanted to find out.

>> No.11646099

>>11646095
Wow really? Didn't think beforehand to type what you want to find out first then?

>> No.11646102

>>11646099
I did.
>Has anyone tried farming E-1?
I didn't ask, 'what are the drops for E-1'. I want a show of hands, numbers, and not ship names.

>> No.11646104

So how should I approach the middle route? I'm tired of doing the top route for E-7, considering that half of the time I go south and the other half is north. I'll lose fuel, but somehow going north seems a lot more painful.

>> No.11646113

>>11646084
It is true that each run actually translates into several crafts, not just one. Every node has a chance of netting Imuya/Goya, and the boss node has rare DDs going for it, albeit the odds aren't superb for any individual ship.

If one looks at this as multiple tries at the rare DD formula (250/130/200/30 or 270/150/370/50,) then E7 is a deal. Fighting through the middle route would guarantee a path to the boss, so that's 4 craft attempts per run. It's cheaper than 4x dailies, although you are spending buckets and time to do this.

I am not sure if S rating is worth the extra expense atm, but it is clear at least that doing E7 is better than binge crafting, where you spend buckets instead of development materials.

>>11646102
I didn't do it, but Kumano and Suzuya can drop in E1-E3 now, according to twitter announcements.

>> No.11646139

>>11646104
I tried 3BB+1DD+2CLT, it is not ideal. BB is shit during the night phase, so you might not even S rank it even when you have everyone healthy.
1BB+2DD+1CA+2CLT is also not ideal, since air raid will put 1 of the guy that you have into red. It is also harder to make it to boss. Even though the fortress is shit, they can still bring any of your ship to red with 2consecutive hit. You can easily accumulate 2hit since you are now going through 3nodes instead of 2.
Maybe having more CA would work since they can put sanshiki but I dont have any high lvl to try it out. Shigure really cant compensate for the AA stats loss by going 1BB.

>> No.11646150

>>11646139
I've been thinking that maybe the optimal approach with middle route is 4x SS with full support fleet. When I tried the 4x SS a few days back, I found that I was getting B or A grade finish, and frankly, it doesn't matter to the subs if the preboss node transitions to day round.

Ultimately, the problem with sub is that you spend much of your torp spread on the fortresses, so if a support fleet can take out 2, it would almost guarantee A grade finish at the boss node. That would be the most economical option that I can think of.

>> No.11646159

>>11646150
You wont get any good drops with that A rank anon.

>> No.11646162

>>11646159
A and S can get the halo, just that s is double the odd. It's B grade that will get you crap.

>> No.11646176

>>11646162
I guess it is all about sacrificing time consumption vs resources. I would rather do 100 S rank sortie than 200 A rank sortie though.

>> No.11646195

is there any way to play without the VPN on the new server? it keeps giving me invalid token

>> No.11646201

>>11646195
I don't see why the new server would work differently from the old ones, you're probably doing something wrong.

>> No.11646221

>>11646201
it the inspect elements there neither maind2.swf or api_token

>> No.11646223

>>11646195
Any screenshot of the problem? Still working fine on my end

>> No.11646225
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>> No.11646229

>>11646225
Kaga love is truly eternal.

>> No.11646234
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>>11646223
here, thanks

>> No.11646256

>>11646234
that seems to be the source of the page, you need the source of the frame where the game is inside. In case of FF you might need to click on the game to set it active. Or use an addon like adblock to get the link.

>> No.11646261

>>11646234
use adblock

>> No.11646273

>>11646256
>>11646261
thanks, i see it now with adblock.

>> No.11646279
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11646279

Good grief, E5 is a nightmare when your second best CA is level 3 and you never got Ooi or trained Yukikaze. You have to plow through princess-level monstrosities with CLs and DDs, and it certainly isn't pleasant.

It took 12 hours, 80 sorties, 195 buckets and 28000/28000/21000/X resources.

Kako sunk and surfaced so many times that it wouldn't be surprising if she remodeled into a submarine. I think she has more sink confirmations than the Big E now.

Sendai dropped elite BBs and war princesses left and right despite being a level 33 DD squadron leader.

Kongo and Kirishima regularly took half a dozen hits per run, and still tagged the boss for 30 damage a pop at red. Kiso and Kisaragi survived too many 1HP cut-ins to count.

And Kitakami brought back the prize to the base, even though her sister is not there yet.

None of them were lost to the abyss.

Thank you, girls. It was one hell of a ride.

I apologize for the blog post, and I realize that it is silly to be proud of an in-game fleet's RNG-based accomplishments, but guess that's the magic of this game.

>> No.11646280

>>11646279
Sendai is the queen of the night battle. She has built in hidden stats for night battle.

>> No.11646283

>>11646279
>Kako sunk and surfaced so many times that it wouldn't be surprising if she remodeled into a submarine.
Made me giggle.
Anyway, congratulations admiral.

>> No.11646285

>>11646279
Congratulations. Despite having a full fleet of level 80 ships myself, I have yet to complete E5, because the compass is trolls me by giving me perfect runs and then sending me to node J. I'm about to throw the keyboard out the window now.

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>>11646285
Can't do shit against the real boss of this game.

>> No.11646294

>>11646279
You should have put dual-purpose guns on everyone. Boss's air assault is a joke when your entire fleet slides forward to smash their planes.

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11646298

Is this a bug? or server error?

I don't think my Fleet is strong enough to handle E-4 though.

>> No.11646299

>>11646298
Whoah. You should go inside and take a look, for kicks.

>> No.11646300

>>11646298
Could they be allowing people to have a chance to get Yahagi?

>> No.11646301

>>11646298
Put scrap fodder in your first fleet and click on it.

>> No.11646303

>>11646298
Henderson-chan really wants to see you, you should visit her.

>> No.11646306

What happened to the threads in /a/ and /u/?

>> No.11646308

>>11646306
Thread in /a/ exceeded post limit, got bumped off, no one made another.

>> No.11646309

>>11646306
/a/ thread expired and /u/ thread, well, who cares about them?

>> No.11646313

>>11646309
>>11646308
I'm actually suprised that no one complained about them.

>> No.11646315

I'm in the /u/ thread and the thread is fine, what is supposedly the problem with it?

>> No.11646318

>>11646294
The boss node was not offensively impressive, though the BB princess had a knack for knocking my main damage dealers into the red first. But when only two of your ships can reasonably damage the carrier princesses and the remaining shots bounce off of them for piddling damage while they slowly bring your fleet outside the torpedo/cut-in range, no amount of aerial defense will truly help.

The main star of the pre-shelling engagement was the support fleet, which handily eliminated 1-3 of the platforms right off the bat. After that it was usually safe to wail on the boss, and I brought her to <50HP range about five or six times before Kitakami eventually provided that one last push.

>> No.11646320

>>11646313
/a/ got used to it eventually, Appregio anime probably makes it tolerable. Not sure about /u/ though.

>> No.11646321

>>11646320
If so, what makes it tolerable in /jp/?

>> No.11646323

>>11646320
why would /u/ complain? lesbian ships everywhere. its not even subtext

>> No.11646331

>>11646318
Choice is between your ship not being able to shoot planes and 5 firepower. Many a times the aerial assault has brought a ship to medium damage or contributed to a red. Even the CLTs can have 50+ AA stat which is a huge bonus to miss.

>> No.11646333

>>11646331
do more green guns mean more plane shooting? disregarding the additional AA bonus.

>> No.11646334

>>11646331
Fair point, there. I'll try it come next event and see how it goes.

But I think I had my share of E5. I've nothing to show for it except a couple of submarines and battleships, but the clear itself is plenty enough.

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>>11646104
>>11646139
>>11646150
I've been running Haruna, 1DD, 2CA, 2CLT. Sparkling main fleet every time and running a support expedition of 2BB, CV, CLT, 2DD with Kongou as flag and the only one sparkled. Compared to when I was running 2 Kongous, 1DD, 1CA, 2CLT for the north route, I've had significantly much higher success.

I started using the middle route after 29 attempts at the north one.

>> No.11646338

So I got into the game with today's lottery and I think I'm starting to get the hang of things. After losing my first ship to my own stupidity, I know not to continue with the sortie when a ship goes to red and I've learnt just now nice expeditions are.

The question I have, is what kind of bonuses are there for the flagship? Is it just extra exp? Is there a specific ship type I should have as my flagship? As yet I mostly have DDs and a few CLs, but I also managed to get a CVL too, Ryuujou. Are there any ships I should be working towards at first to get into my main fleet?

>> No.11646341

>>11646338
Read the wiki.

>> No.11646342

>>11646338
Flagship has bonus against fatigue if I remember and they are unsinkable but once she goes into the red, you will be forced back to retreat. Have you read the FAQ? If not, go read it. As for the ships you need, just play the game, stringent ships requirement probably don't kick in until stage 2.

>> No.11646350

>>11646338
The flagship cannot sink. However, you may not continue a sortie after the point your flagship is critically damaged. The flagship is not attacked as frequently as other ships, and the rest of your fleet can protect your flagship from the attacks that do get through. When the latter happens, you will see an arc in front of the protecting ship. In addition, since night battle and the second shell phase attacking orders are determined by fleet position, your flagship will attack first in these cases.

For now you can put whomever you want onto the spot, but later you will want to use ships that you want to raise, which often enjoy the added protection and bonus experience.

4BB/2CV is a standard main fleet, but other ship types are useful depending on what you are trying to do (CLs and CVLs are cheap to maintain, CAs gain considerable stat boosts at night, and so on).

>> No.11646358

>>11646350
who in their right mind uses 4BB2CV constantly? that costs more than you can get from expeditions with even occasional sorties

>> No.11646361

>>11646342
>>11646341
Thanks. I've been refering to the wiki a lot, but I couldn't find a lot on Flagships. Guess it's because it doesn't do a terrible amount. I'll keep going then, I've only beat 1-3 so far anyway.

>> No.11646367

>>11646358
4BB2CV is for when you mean business, and you do mean business for the first few weeks of the game, so they shape up into a main force pretty rapidly.

After you set up your 3-2 farm, you can use anything you please.

>> No.11646369

>>11646358
>who in their right mind uses 4BB2CV constantly?
Me. Well, at least I do when the situation permits me to. I don't play that often though.

>> No.11646371

>>11646358
I think he's talking about map clearing that has no special situations such as needing certain ships, sub nodes or forced night battles.

>> No.11646380

>>11646361
About ships you need, try to get a diverse fleet going. 4BB2CV is really good but the game will force you to use certain ships in the latter parts, so occasionally pick your preferred CA/CL/DD and train them.

>> No.11646396

>>11646380
>4BB2CV is really good
until you meet submarines or run out of resources instantly

>> No.11646406

>>11646396
Never really need to care about subs though. They barely scratch BB's and CV's armouur. You're right about the resource though.

>> No.11646409

>>11646406
sub crits eat right through that precious armor
and any chance of S ranking that fight is gone too

>> No.11646410

>>11646337
I am in total agreement that the north route is not optimal. Your suggestion about 1 Kongou 1 DD 2 CA 2 CLT is interesting.

Did you assign Yukikaze or Shigure with torp loadout, or is it Yuudachi all guns?

>> No.11646411

>>11646396
This.
The first thing any newbie need to do is to get 1sub ASAP. Having a sub makes the game much more easier. The amount of steel and repair time saved with a sub is huge for any newbie. Clearing 2-4 ASAP is also very important since you can unlock 4-1 to do the sub daily.

>> No.11646413

>>11646411
So I should just make the 250/130/200/30 recipie at every chance I get? Is that the most consistent way to get a sub?

>> No.11646417

>>11646411
I have a bunch of decently leveled DDs for a newb ( 44 Shimakaze, 30 shigure, 25 hibiki 25 yuudachi, couple of lvl 20 others ) but only low level Isuzu and Yura so I never manage to do the sub daily even if I do unlock it after extensive compass trolling.

whats the best way for sub-only runs to do the world-2 5 boss wins daily?

>> No.11646416

>>11646413
I would say daily rare DD recipe is a good way. you can do 2-3 and hope that you get a I-168 from the boss too.

>> No.11646422

>>11646413
Yeah.
Just do 250/x/200/30x4 everyday until you get all the rare destroyer and subs.
You will get Kaga and all the other BBs off drops anyway when you do world2/4-1 daily.
You will miss out on Nagato this way though. I still dont have her at lvl90.

>> No.11646425

>>11646422
I still don't have Nagato either, at Lvl97. I've been playing for 53 days by now.

>> No.11646437

Do subs drop at E-3? I was thinking of stopping the event after E-2, but if subs drop in E-3 I guess it's better than trying my luck at crafting

>> No.11646438

>>11646417
>newb
>44 shimakaze
Anon, once you cleared 2-4 you are no longer a newb. You have a good enough fleet to beat 3-2 already.
Also you can beat 4-1 without Isuzu. Just have 3ships that can hit subs and with the anti sub formation, all of them can be 1shotted.

>> No.11646441

>>11646438
I have 4-2, 3-2 and E-4 unlocked and still consider myself a newb because I can't clear E-4 despite buckloads of resources.

>> No.11646444

>>11646058
>>11646018
Well, I finally managed to clear E-3 after 7 hours non stop. I must say I spent every single one of my resources, even though I maxed them before starting; so 9k. I also spent around 50 buckets.

As far as the transition from day to night, none of my ships sank during night after going red in day. I will won't doubt you again /jp/. If it wasn't for pushing through I probably wouldn't have made it. Although to be fair, they were only even targeted at night very few times so I can't say this was definitive proof, but it's good enough for me.

>> No.11646446

>>11646338
>RJ
Whoa, first day and already got her? It's a nice start, at least you won't complain that much when getting Akagi.

>> No.11646456

>>11646446
Yeah, I was messing around with the crafting and used one of the recipes from the wiki and got her. She's only level 4 at the moment, but she certainly pulls her weight.

>> No.11646458

>>11646410
I actually have a Shimakaze, as she's the only high level DD I currently have, and she's equipped with two 10cm guns and a +10 turbine. All ships in my main fleet are outfitted for double attack with some form of AA added in. Haruna has 46cms, the CAs have sanshiki and 12cm30, and Kita/Ooi are running one 10cm, 15.5cm yellow, and midget sub.

>> No.11646463

>>11646417
I beat 3-2 with a full sparkled (double attack setup) team of 46 Hibiki, 43 Shigure, 26 Arashio, Yuudachi Sudenona and Wakaba. Just make sure to max their torpedo and armor stats and use line abreast on ALL nodes, so you take minimal damage, but only do night battles on the boss node. I got lucky twice with a T-cross disadvantage and my ships only took 1 or 2 damage until I reached the boss.

>> No.11646467

>>11646456
>but she certainly pulls her weight.
Not that she has much anyway.

>> No.11646469

>>11646463
tbh I don't really care about clearing 3-2. 3-3 and 3-4 aren't spectacular anyway. I'm more interested in actually doing the daily quests but I struggle to get the 5 boss wins because of the compass

>> No.11646472

>>11646469
Well, 3-3 has a chance for subs to drop.

>> No.11646475

>>11646469
Just alternate your subs team to do 2-3 and have another team to do 2-2. Having 2CV seems to increase your chances of hitting the boss node at 2-2 consistently.

>> No.11646476

>>11646469
what's so good about daily quests?

>> No.11646479

>>11646472
I have 3 subs. lvl 60 Imuya, lvl 60 Goya and lvl 54 Iku
E-4 is just beyond me with those super BB waiting everywhere. Might try with some throwaway CA I get from 3-2

>>11646476
being able to do them every day provides an extra income. More res = less frustration next event

>> No.11646481

>>11646479
>super BB
I have good news for you. They are the weakest of the bunch. Their cut-in deal pathetic damage. What you should be afraid of is the fucking gold CA, CL and DD. 1cut-in critical from any of them and it is go home time.

>> No.11646482

>>11646479
not if doing the quests costs you more resources than the quests give you in return.

Not sure which of them give buckets, I could see why you'd want to get them.

>> No.11646483

>>11646482
do almost all my sortie quests with my 3 subs. obviously the submarine one I couldn't do like that but 6DD or 4DD2CL should be pretty cheap

>> No.11646485
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11646485

have some naka-chan~

>> No.11646488

>>11646481
About those nodes.
Even if she hit once in a blue moon (over 30 runs on the node, one hit only so far) the flagship Wo class piss me off just from being able to launch planes any time, at any damage. I wish my girls could do that.

>captcha : oreyasui very
I never report those but this one is awesome.

>> No.11646490

>>11646488
I'll post about my fleet in a day or two so I have 48~ hours breathing time. if I'm gonna try I'll first grind as much as I can. want my Ooi at least to be 50. Her lover is already 61

>> No.11646493

>>11646488
>flagship Wo class piss me off just from being able to launch planes any time
Those can actually hit you? The reason why E5 is so easy is because on that 2nd node, they have a carrier as their flagship. You basically have 2turn shooting at them before they get their turn. I actually retreat more on the first node because sometimes my ships decide to forgo the gold DD to shoot the flagship only to eat a torpedo on the last turn.

>> No.11646518

>>11646444
How does it take 7 hours to beat e-3, and all those fucking resources used??? I just beat it in 2 hours this morning, and I'm not exactly overleveling the place.

team: maya tone haruna yamashiro kaga hiyou lv 35-45
started: 7am, 7800/8700/9800/4500
1: bottom, boss sunk
2: bottom, boss sunk, 3 buckets
3: bottom, boss sunk, 2 buckets
4: top, retreat , hiyou crit, 1 bucket
5: bottom, boss sunk
6. top, retreat, tone hit, 1 bucket
7. top, boss sunk, bar silver, 4 buckets (topping ofF)
8. bottom, fuck compass chan, 2 buckets
9. bottom, boss destroyed
end: 9:10am, 4700/6200/8300/3200, 11 buckets used

>> No.11646526

>>11646518
not everyone is as lucky

>> No.11646527

>>11646518
compass trolling. a lot of it. I had dead end south 8 times in a row

>> No.11646531

what are the notable drops in E-3 again?

>> No.11646535

>>11646518
Same reason why some people waste 16-20 hours and 25k+ resources on E-4 or E-5 while it takes others just under 5 hours and around 8k resources despite having identical setups. Not everyone is as lucky as everyone else.

>> No.11646537

Is it even possible to clear E-4 without 46cm cannons and like a dozen sanshiki?

>> No.11646540
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11646540

>>11646537

>> No.11646542

>>11646518
>2xCA
Someone should update the wiki, then.

>> No.11646544

>>11646540
HOW

>> No.11646548

>>11646493
Haha, no. Flagship ones can actually still launch planes and attack even at night.

Did you even go through E-5?

>> No.11646550

>>11646544
luck

>>11646548
he's implying they always miss anyway

>> No.11646551

>>11646550
But they don't miss.

Did you even go through E-5? Seriously.

>> No.11646553

>>11646551
Did YOU even go through E-5?

>> No.11646554

>>11646551
Not those anons, but I don't remember ever getting hit by that Wo class during my E5 runs.

>> No.11646556
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>>11646553
I'm pretty sure I used hacks to get my ships if I didn't go through E-5.
>>11646554
They do hit, I've taken scratch damage as well as criticals from them occasionally.

>> No.11646560

>>11646556
Or you just used photoshop.
Either way, I don't believe you actually did E-5.

>> No.11646564

E5 first node and Kongo eats a crit to red as the flagship, bitch can't stop eating them no matter where I put her.

>> No.11646565

>>11646564
She wants to strip

>> No.11646567

>>11646560
I don't know, maybe you can start by showing some evidence you yourself actually went through E-5? Since you claimed images can be photoshopped, I hope you can prepare something more concrete then.

Otherwise, currently, your opinion about Wo-class on second battle node for NE path will miss 100% of the time is completely wrong.

>> No.11646580

>>11646567
I'm not the person you were originally arguing with and I don't like posting screenshots.
Also, you're the one making extremely dumb statements.
Take a look at >>11646551.

>> No.11646582

>>11646540
now I need to try that with throwaway DD, CL and CA
are those duplicate Kongous?

>> No.11646588 [DELETED] 

>>11646580
You can start by telling me how is it dumb by stating they don't miss 100% which >>11646551 says 'always miss anyway' when it is in fact wrong.

>> No.11646590
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11646590

>>11646551
>But they don't miss.
The fuck?
This is my typical E5 run.
For me it is either 1st node crit and go home or compass trolling. The 2nd node is piss easy.

>> No.11646598

>>11646590
You got lucky once at that node where either you shot down Wo- first or her planes missed you and you came to the conclusion she will never ever miss?

Jesus fucking christ. You're a fucking genius, here; let me give you the award of humanity's number one genius.

Well, whatever. Up to you guys whether you wanna believe that the fact is that they can still hit.

>> No.11646601

>>11646590
nice photoshop brother

>> No.11646606

>>11646598
So how often do the planes hit? 1 out of 100?
They always miss.

>> No.11646608

Why is everyone so angry?
She misses 90% of the time, but can crit sometimes, still better than one more yellow battleship.

>> No.11646612

>>11646598
At least admit that you were wrong when you posted >>11646551.
You're basically saying the negation of "it always misses" is "it always hits".

>> No.11646613

Does perfect run result in 100% NE? I can't remember getting sent to the boss

>> No.11646616

>>11646608
It's because this /a/spie keeps trying to stir up shit by acting like he's the only one who has cleared E-5.

>> No.11646618

>>11646608
>She misses 90% of the time, but can crit sometimes
This. Also, one of node's enemy composition has Ta-Ru-Ru as the top 3 ships, so calling it "piss easy" is bullshit.

>>11646613
No. You're just unlucky.

>> No.11646619

What ever happened to the Yuubari's navel guy?

>> No.11646625

>>11646616
Nah, it's because there are elitists like you who assume your opinions equates to everyone's else. Then again, all you guys do are assume stuff, which is why you're dubbed as elitists anyway.

>> No.11646627
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11646627

>>11646619
> Yuubari's navel guy
It's not a single person, though.

>> No.11646635

>>11646633
I don't know, who are the ones getting their panties in a bunch when OPINIONS don't match?

Experiences doesn't mean they aren't opinions you know.

>> No.11646633

>>11646625
Why the hell do you keep saying opinions?
They're personal experiences, so treat them as such.
Don't get your panties in a knot when someone else's experiences don't match up with your own.

>> No.11646640

>>11646618
Those ta-ru-ru BB doesnt hit as hard as torpedo cut-in.
How often does any of those BB actually crit your ship to red? Almost never.

>> No.11646643

>>11646627
Have they all moved on? That makes me sad.

>> No.11646644

>>11646635
Why are you telling me this when you're the one who started shit with >>11646548.
I only started replying after >>11646551 because I was appalled at your lack of courtesy and inability to do logical thinking.

>> No.11646646 [DELETED] 

>>11646640
>game is piss easy
>i am the king of kancolle
>my experience = you all
>nao folo me pls
>i am actually thelenrir, psyche!!!

>> No.11646652

>>11646644
Where's your logical thinking now when in the context of saying "They always miss", my input was "But they don't miss" equates to "But they always hit". You seem to keep coming back even though I've already hinted my intention to drop this petty squabble; I'm shocked at your persistence and inability to do logical thinking.

Oh and, how am I not being courteous? Can you tell that just with that post and over the Internet? Please.

>> No.11646663

I had a dream yesterday where I logged in and saw that I had 3 docks, and I was really happy, but then I woke up and went on and saw that I only have 2.

>> No.11646665

>>11646663
It's $10 for one more. Don't be a pussy.

>> No.11646669

>>11646652
You don't just drop an argument, you resolve it.
And the only way to do so is if you admit that you made some pretty stupid statements and I end up forgiving you.

>> No.11646682

>>11646643
We're still around. Discussion of Yuubari's navel tends to come up when there's a dumb argument going on, like right now.

>> No.11646685

>>11646669
How about, no and admit that you're wrong instead? If you see every argument needed to be resolved as your "win", then I guess you're just another small-minded peasant in the end. I guess in your 'logical thinking', there isn't such a thing as dropped argument since it has to end with you winning, right?

In other words, you're a hypocrite when you even mention that last part of your sentence.

>>11646682
Accept my apologies about this dumb argument, I tried to 'drop it', but that faggot doesn't seem to want to accept anything but his win in any and everything apparently.

>> No.11646686

>>11646685
So you admit you lost right?

>> No.11646687
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11646687

yuubari's navel

>> No.11646690

>>11646682
Shall we start discussing about navel then? I just got my KTKM and Ooi to their second remodel but I must say those quintuple oxygen torpedoes are more delicious than their navels.

>>11646687
I'm more of a Nagato navel guy though.

>> No.11646692

>>11646686
I guess I did lost since I bothered to reply to you. I mean, why the hell did I even stoop to your stupidity and ridiculous childishness in the first place. The devil must have taken over me to do so.

If it makes you feel better and helps you sleep at night, boast to your online friends that you won an argument over the Internet that you know you yourself already 'lost.. Then yeah, go ahead and use your logical thinking to think whatever you want to to make yourself feel better.

>> No.11646694

>>11646687

I bet it taste like melon.

>> No.11646695

I've done like 10 sorties of E-3 and barely scratched the gauge thanks to compass troll zigzags and deadends, and spent like 3k of each resource and 16 buckets for literally nothing

I give up

>> No.11646697

>>11646690
I actually kind of prefer their old outfits. The kai ni ones barely look like uniforms.

>> No.11646701

>>11646687
>>11646694
Incidentally, I just ate some melon. Looking at the image while licking the last of the juices off my plate is... an odd feeling, to say the least.

>> No.11646702

>>11646697
Dark green outfit is definitely superior.
Ooi looks especially bad with that bright and light kai2 outfit.

>> No.11646698

>>11646687
Isuzu's also hot.

>> No.11646699

>>11646692
Thank you.
I hope next time you can make posts that actually contribute to the thread.

>> No.11646704

>>11646687
Is... is that a nopan? That's too lewd, goddamn.

>> No.11646703

>>11646697
Same here. The colours of the uniform of their second remodel is more pleasing though.

>> No.11646707

>>11646701
>licking the last of the juices off my plate
I bet that's how it would taste, cool, metalic and like melons.

>> No.11646715

>>11646699
this is why u dun go full retard like this fuck here, derailing thread and all with ur pointless argument that started with your wrong info.

>> No.11646717

>>11646707
My Yuubari's remodeled and max armour modernised, so there'll be a tinge of modern ceramic armour plating, just like my ceramic plate.

>> No.11646721

I don't see any pictures here.
I don't want to read some sweaty nerd's fantasies without cute pictures to look at.

>> No.11646725
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11646725

Heh.

>> No.11646726

>>11646721
go to /c/ maybe

>> No.11646729

>>11646726
/c/ is for only pictures though.
I want stories to go along with my pictures.

>> No.11646732
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11646732

>>11646721

>> No.11646735
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11646735

>>11646725
I don't like where this is going.

>>11646721
Ignore the admiral.

>> No.11646736

>>11646725
I tried crafting a ship, I got the penguin

>> No.11646739

>>11646725
What

>> No.11646741

>>11646735
Damn, I'd rub my face all over that thigh.

>> No.11646766 [DELETED] 

What's up with the English Wikia? I just went on it for the first time and I see people using the greater-than sign for quoting and some apparent green-texting.

Is that why the quality of these threads have been dropping since early August?

>> No.11646772

What are the chances of Yahagi ever becoming no-money-gimmick craftable? Considering her rarity is that of Yamato and Musashi, I'm thinking that won't happen.

>> No.11646778
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11646778

i hope my shigure is strong enough

>> No.11646779

>>11646778
seems legit

>> No.11646785

>>11646779

is that strong enough to clear E5?

>> No.11646782 [SPOILER] 
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11646782

>>11646772
I don't recall seeing any source for that cash shop item being needed for Yamato, though.

She may be as "rare" as Yamato and Musashi in occurrence - perhaps even rarer since she's a available for week only and don't comes with a 100% drop rate after a kill - but for those reason I think she'll be at least dropable the way Kumano and Suzuya were.

Not to mention she's not that legendary, not the highest background rarity from scratch, a simple CL from an already available class, and not even the nameship.

Feat not teitoku, I think she'll be in your fleet in no time, out of nowhere.

>> No.11646788

>>11646785
only if you add two 99 to every number

>> No.11646791

I think my kanmusu might be crazy, they keep talking about having food with non-existent sisters.

>> No.11646792

>>11646788

being serious here >_<

>> No.11646793
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11646793

>>11646778
More like she has to be huge enough.

>> No.11646796
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11646796

>>11646791
All over again

>> No.11646801

>>11646793
reminds me of this
http://youtu.be/9-ucurFlT6s?t=5m7s

>> No.11646804

I've spent 3 days on expedition 4 and 6 and I've gotten 2400 silver coins out of it.
Why does this game hate me so much?

>> No.11646810

>>11646804
I spent 12 hours for the same amount, but I have terrible luck in sorties

>> No.11646811
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11646811

>>11646793

Shigure is mad :/

>> No.11646816

>>11646811
such amaze
wow
very power
so scare

>> No.11646823

>>11646816
Wow, you managed to make one of the shittiest memes ever even worse.

>> No.11646821
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11646821

finally finished 2-4

Kongou is still smiling :)

>> No.11646826

>>11646821
>>11646811
>>11646792
Enough, stop with that.

>> No.11646831
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11646831

>>11646811

>> No.11646832

>>11646821
I don't even want to know how you didn't clear 2-4 way earlier with those ships and levels

>> No.11646835

>>11646832
its just basically im unlucky

>> No.11646837

>>11646832
That's actually lower than when I cleared it.

>> No.11646842

>>11646832
3 tries with 2 subs and I cleared it.

>> No.11646846
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11646846

>>11646826

>> No.11646847

>>11646826
why? diff anon btw

>> No.11646849

>>11646821
Why are you wasting resources to beat 2-4 instead of event?

>> No.11646851

>>11646849
I already finished E1

>> No.11646854

>>11646851

Do E2 and E3 then. Your fleet is plenty ready for both.

>> No.11646858

>>11646854
Can he reach the E3 boss with it, though?

>> No.11646857

>>11646851
your level can beat e3 with ease

>> No.11646860

E4 is pretty hard but yeah, E3 is should pretty much be a priority clear target since it gives the best and by far torpedo in game, and some handy stuff like a repair goddess. Better earn than than spending 500Y when you want one more.

>> No.11646863

>>11646858

My fleet wasn't that much higher-leveled when I cleared E4.

>> No.11646865 [DELETED] 

>>11646860
>>11646854

someone told me im gonna take a beating if i tried E2 onwards D:

>> No.11646866

>>11646863
I mean, the fleet composition.

>> No.11646868

>>11646865
>>11646821
>>11646811
>>11646792
Get out.

>> No.11646869

>>11646865
>>11646847
>>11646821
>>11646811
>>11646792
Read the fucking OP >>11643409

>> No.11646870 [DELETED] 

>>11646868
:D :D <3 :D <3 :/ :( :) XD XD ^_^ ._. wwwww

>> No.11646871

>>11646868
Just take a look at the English Wikia and you'll know why people like them are around.

>> No.11646873

>>11646866

I don't even remember what setup I used.

If he has some CLV and CLT in lvl 30 range E3 is plenty doable.

>> No.11646877

This might be a strange question, but how many of you here have Yahagi but haven't cleared E-5 yet? I'm thinking if I should try my luck for her instead of stockpiling resources til the last minute.

I'm not really interested in Musashi since I don't like her design as well as her being a resource whore, but Yahagi is pretty much all my fetishes in one PTSD-ridden girl.

>> No.11646884

>>11646877
I've got 2 in 10 runs, try your luck.

>> No.11646889
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11646889

>>11646873
Do you think this will be able to do it? Or I should start leveling Ooi? I just got one.

>> No.11646896

>>11646877
If you don't want Musashi I'll take her

>> No.11646897

>>11646889

I'm not sure if there isn't a 1BB 2CV requirement to go to the boss node. I ran better boss node ratio with 1BB 2CV 1CVL personally.

If you are the same guy as above, Chiyoda, Akagi, Zuikaku, Haruna, Kitakami and maybe some DD or CA should work fine.

I've got perfectly documented E4 and E5 clears, didn't pay as much attention to E3.

>> No.11646898
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11646898

>>11646778
Stronger than that shigure

>> No.11646901

Fuck that one troll who said going single line ahead on pre-boss nodes in E5 is better.

I've just lost 5 runs testing it. Without double line bonus armor non-cut-in crits bring my girls to red every damn time.

>> No.11646904

>>11646898
Kongou is the best battleship in the game

>> No.11646906

>>11646901
Well, it worked wonders for me. You just have bad luck.

>> No.11646908
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11646908

>>11646884
You mean 10 S ranks? Because if not that shit's painful to hear for someone like me

>> No.11646912

>>11646908
Actually 4 S ranks and 6 A, got one from both ranks.

>> No.11646915
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11646915

Why would they do E5 so many time?

>> No.11646919

>>11646915
E-5's boss node actually gives alot of points/experience for your rank in the monthly admiral ranking. In addition to farming rare ships, you get to rack up points quickly as well to try and overtake into the top100s.

>> No.11646921

>>11646915
maybe that wasn't done by a single person?

>> No.11646926

>>11646915

1% Nagato drop.

I'm giving up after I get Yahagi. If I get her before my buckets run out. Farming 3-2 for this will be much cheaper.

>> No.11646934

>>11646926
What if you get a Nagato and never a Yahagi?

>> No.11646938

>>11646934

I'd be perfectly fine with that, actually.

I wanted Nagato since the first time I saw here over a month ago.

>> No.11646940

>>11646934
I'm like that. Got a Nagato right after the update but never a Yahagi. Even managed to snag 2 Kumano so far.

>> No.11646954

Hello, new player here, I got in after today's lottery.

I got Tenryuu on 1-2 after a couple times farming there, how good is she actually? I fut her on flagship and she seems pretty reliable so far ( lvl 7 )

>> No.11646955

>>11646940
2kumano
1yahagi
1zuihou
2i58
no agano
no nagato
no rare destroyers
I trade those dupes for a single nagato

>> No.11646968

>>11646954
Are you afraid of looking at the wiki?

>> No.11646976

>>11646955
I'll give you 3 Aganos for a Kumano and Goya.

30 successful boss runs later I haven't gotten a single new ship. Whoever thought adding CAs other than Suzuya and Kumano in the S rank drop table was a good idea.

>> No.11646977

>>11646954
Tenryuu is not really that good. I mostly use her as expedition babysitter / leader
you're better off leveling a shigure, yuudachi or hibiki as flag instead

>> No.11646981

Imagine if we could trade resources, buckets and ships with other players

>> No.11646994

>>11646981
Imagine all the multiple account farming, all those extra ships being send to the resource slaughterhouse like so many cattle.

>> No.11646999

>>11646994
I don't think that would be a huge problem considering the lottery. and there are ways to filter, track down and automatically ban people that do this

>> No.11647001

Thank god sanaechan's sortie drop list resets itself after every shut down. Looking at it for too long is depressing.

>> No.11647008

>>11647001
can you help me out in getting it running? Playing in firefox and I followed the FAQ on the site but its not displaying anything

>> No.11647012

>>11647001
Does it work with projector? I tried to follow the instructions and it didn't work for me, not sure how to configure the proxy.

>> No.11647015

>>11646981
I would be fine with just trading ships, It's like your letting someone adopt them and you adopting a ship from the other Teitoku.

>> No.11647025

>>11647015
suddenly: a great use for those duplicates

Oh hey, a duplicate Haruna. But I need Kirishima. What was that? You have duplicate Kirishima's and need a Haruna? I got just the thing for you.

>> No.11647033

>>11647025
this might require you to communicate with other players, though

>> No.11647034

>>11646994
I can see it now, buying lv1 ships using resources to send them on throwaway runs. lv1 destroyers would be dirt cheap due to how many you can get from 1-1

>> No.11647035

>>11647025
Image all the pain of RNG fucking you over gone, they won't do it because teitokus have to suffer.

>> No.11647036

>>11647034
you can buy DDs with the 30/30/30/30 recipe already

>> No.11647039

>>11647034
No one would buy with resources.
Most likely there would be a standardized unit, most likely buckets. And seeing as how even the most rare ships are very easily obtainable, people will most likely end up buying only high level ships.

>> No.11647049

>>11647039
So it's going to turn into something like CG with this trading scheme? Crossover fanart when?

>> No.11647058

>>11647039
Don't forget all the guys joining the game for just Shimakaze, Tenryuu and Kongou. You could overprice them and they wouldn't know any better.

>> No.11647062

>>11647049
Japan is way ahead of you.

>> No.11647066

>>11647058
But Tenryuu's stats are terrible.

>> No.11647069

>>11647066
That's not the point, those guys probably don't even look at stats because they just joined because they saw some Tenryuu fan art and wanted her.

>> No.11647070

Buying I-8 for 500 buckets
anyone would sell her?

>> No.11647077

>>11647070
Yeah.
Because I'd probably be able to buy another one for a fifth of that.

>> No.11647079

>>11647069
That's probably how everyone in here got into the game anyway.

>> No.11647091

B> Unremodeled lv90+ Yamato msg me
S> 10k Bauxite buckets only!!!
B> Furniture fairies pm me for offers need plenty@@@

And that is how you kill Kancolle.

>> No.11647093

>>11647091
ship trading only then
and level is always reset to 1, modernization upgrades are always negated. Kai status retains if present.
voila.
limit the number of trades to 2 per 24 hours and make it cost fuel/ammo so your daughter can actually travel to the other teitoku

>> No.11647092

>>11647033
Could easily communicate in the thread.
Anyone want a Mutsu? I have two to spare.

>> No.11647095

>>11647091
It's just like my MMO's!

>> No.11647097

>>11647093
Well that's terribly restricting, but I guess it would be the only way you could make it work

>> No.11647101

>>11647097
its restrictive to avoid people trading high level ships with each other to clear maps and then trade them back

>> No.11647103
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11647103

To trade you need a trade fairy. Trade fairies can be obtained from the cash shop. Trading Horo rarity ships requires multiple trade fairies.

>> No.11647105

>>11647103
not even a fuck you written in galaxy sized letters would suffice

>> No.11647109

>>11647103

I'd be fine with it if one of the harder to do weeklies gave one. For example the one with 12 world 4 bosses.

>> No.11647111

>>11647109
Too easy. How about top 20 ranking?

>> No.11647112

>>11647092
And then you find out what the ign of the other party is, and proceed to bully the shit out of them on /jp/

>> No.11647114

>>11647112
But we all take it easy, why would you bully someone?

>> No.11647115

>>11647114
Won't know until someone posts their API link here.

>> No.11647117

>>11647112
There's /a/ for that.

>> No.11647151

Just dominated E2 with a sparkling fleet, that felt good.
How is Noshiro, statwise?

>> No.11647155

Damn, I'm getting error-chan every fucking 10 minutes.

>> No.11647164

>>11647151
The wiki knows.

>> No.11647175

>>11647155
Are you playing on Chrome? I only got her on Chrome personally. 2 weeks of playing on Firefox and nothing

>> No.11647178

>>11647175
Yeah, will try firefox.

>> No.11647200

Damn all these Kongou drops.
I refuse to dismantle her or use as a modernization material, but she's slowly cloggin up my reserves

>> No.11647207

>>11647200
take 2, add 3 DD 1 sub and do E-4 and treat them as disposable

>> No.11647210

>>11647207
>treat them as disposable

How about I dispose you first?

>> No.11647215

>>11646934
Ha, now that would suck. I've gotten a Nagato, Kumano and Zuihou from doing some E-7 yesterday, but I already had them. It feels like they just want to give em to me.

>> No.11647223

Which maps are best for farming
Fuel?
Ammo?
Steel?
Bauxite?

>> No.11647228

>>11647223
wiki
2-3
expedition 2, you need the buckets anyway.
3-2
2-2 or expedition 6

>> No.11647230

>>11647223
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:_FAQ
ctrl + f: grind

>> No.11647250

Fucking hate when I leave another person's ship with "1 hp". It's considered "alive" but I can't do any more damage to it, making it impossible to achieve S victory.

>> No.11647253

>>11647250
Clearly, you have no clue how the damage system works.

>> No.11647256

>>11647250
funny, when I reduce all ships in PVP to 1 hp it gives me S rank.

>> No.11647261

>>11647256
you really think you shoot them down to exactly 1hp all the time?

>> No.11647262

>>11647253
No, it's a bug that happens in PVP. Say that an enemy has 18 HP and you deal 19 damage to it. The game will show "17 damage" dealt and it will be considered dead. But if you deal a real 17 damage, the enemy will then have 1 HP but won't take any more damage because, well, the game won't let you do 1 damage to it (the "1 damage done" will never appear).

>> No.11647263

>>11647250
You can kill them with a miss and get S rank though.

>> No.11647266

>>11647253
>>11647256
>>11647261
you guys don't understand what he's talking about. i've had it happen to me as well, where my ships continue shooting it at 1 hp and missing.

>> No.11647269

>>11647263
Well, I've never had that happen to me. A miss killing them, that is.

>> No.11647273

>>11647250
You refresh.

>> No.11647277

Line abreast isn't working at all for getting me through the first two nodes in E-2. Something always ends up hitting me to near death.

>> No.11647281

>>11647262
You can still hit that 1 hp ship. It's just in your case, your ships all decide to suck.

>> No.11647283

>>11647269
Not him, but yeah, that happens. From a health display bug few weeks back, seems that the health isn't an integer number. You could deal 0.xxx and that's considered as a 'miss' (since it's less than 1), but the health could still be reduced to 'death' health.

>> No.11647284

>>11647277
Is everyone sparkling?

>> No.11647280

>>11647262
>>11647266
Nah, you guys just don't know how the damage system works. That final blow to the opponent's gets displayed as a "miss" but if your kanmusu does deal that final blow, your other kanmusu won't attack that opponent's kanmusu anymore. Tell your kanmusu to stop missing so much.

>> No.11647285

>>11647277

Sparkle and pray.

>> No.11647288

>>11647283
that would be a retarded way of coding if this is true

>> No.11647292

>>11647288
It's happened a couple times for me in PVP, where I keep shooting even though all their ships are at 1 hp.

>> No.11647302

>>11647288
Putting RNG above everything is more retarded, though.

>> No.11647300

>>11647292
that doesn't mean the health isn't in integers

>> No.11647305

>>11647302
no, that's a design decision. You might not like it but it's not objectively bad.

>> No.11647308

>>11647300
There used to be a bug where KTKM would have her health when damaged displayed as a non-interger, i.e. 23.567839999

>> No.11647309

>>11647300
Sorry, I only glanced at the current discussion and decided to post something that seemed to be relevant without knowing what was actually being argued.

>> No.11647310

>>11647305
I'm fine with RNG hijink in crafting, but putting it in battle is just plain bad.

>> No.11647317

>>11647310
RNG elements are part of combat in most games, otherwise the combat becomes totally predictable.
Kancolle has a strong RNG element since otherwise the game would be way too easy.

>>11647309
interesting and frightening

>> No.11647334

>>11647317
On a second thought, I think that can't be helped. Unlike other MMOs, there's very limited attack turn and most of the ships are under 100 health. That means every single damage is important, and with the RNG system, the battle system becomes much more dynamic.

>> No.11647339

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21895373
Oh!

>> No.11647340

>>11647310
The game's designed as a casual browser game, so having that much emphasis on RNG fuckery is alright. It does make me wish for a proper tactical RPG based on the property though. The various little quirks of each shipgirl and her history are ripe for expansion into a skills system.

>> No.11647346

>>11647340
>The game's designed as a casual browser game
This argument is thrown out of the window when we have autists spending days farming resources and buckets for a clear or rare ships.

>> No.11647354

>>11647346
Casual game, yes, but it happens to be aimed at otaku. So, yeah.

>> No.11647355

>>11647340
How is it casual when you need ~3-12 hours or even more in one sitting to clear event maps?

>> No.11647356

>lottery
>proxy
Why all this unnecessary effort? I just want cute battleships.

>> No.11647362

>>11647356
You don't have to do it

>> No.11647396

>>11647356
I love seeing those guys that say 'alright, I'll play this game, let's see what's in it'. I pray mercy for those souls from the cruelty of lottery girl.

>> No.11647397

>>11647356
Keeps out unwanted secondaries.

>> No.11647406

>>11647396
Why does the lottery even exist? Not enough servers?

>> No.11647410

>>11647406
Hype generator machine

>> No.11647414

>>11647406
way too many people wanting to play compared to how many people can play on the current servers without making them explode constantly
it's a throttling mechanism

>> No.11647417

>>11647406
everything is decided by the RNG in this game, even if you're allowed to play at all.

>> No.11647479

>>11646687
I wanna get a piece of that melon. Which recipes did you guys use to get her?

>> No.11647482

>>11646039
except for the fact that the staff specifically mentioned f5 abuse being a bannable offense on the official twitter.

>> No.11647502

>>11643438
>Now those threads seem dead
Suure

>> No.11647506

>>11647482
if you know anything about networking you'd know that logging every single refresh from every user playing the game is something no sensible company would bother with. They probably have an automated system in place that bans you if you exceed X refreshes during Y minutes. Like hammering F5 at the site. If you're not even at the site but use API, they most likely can't detect it at all because all the server gets told is that the game has restarted for some reason. it also doesn't reload the site. And reloading the site is probably was made it a bannable offense in the first place because of additional server stress. Not because they give a flying fuck about pseudo cheating

>> No.11647507

>>11647482
what they mentioned was a F5-attack, and now you still don't know for sure what they count as one.

>> No.11647511

>>11647482
You mean the line about not constantly refreshing IN THE ENTRY LOTTERY PROCESS?

>> No.11647647

>>11647506
Reading your post I'm even more curious if you know anything about networking.

>> No.11647662

>>11647479
30/30/30/30. I don't know why it took me two months to get her, and now I just crafted my fourth Yuubari today. I suspect the game increases the chances of getting ships you already have, or that I don't understand statistics.

>> No.11647717

>>11647662
quite true i got 2 zuikaku yet no shoukaku

>> No.11647751

Oh dear, that noise Kumano kai makes when she attacks
Why didn't anyone warn me?

>> No.11647760
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11647760

>>11647751
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Dk4_FXqBLA

>> No.11647798

What's the best recipe for 15.5 secondary cannons? I've done 10/90/90/30 many times but I usually only get shitty cannons and a few sanshikis (not that I'm complaining about those).

>> No.11647812

Every 1:30 timer I get is Mogami. Fuck.

>> No.11647819

>>11647812
Every sub recipe I do is Naka-chan

>> No.11647846

>>11647511
no, any F5 abuse, be it lottery or ingame.

taken from thread >>11536333

On official letter No.127
http://www.dmm.com/netgame/social/community/-/topic/=/cid=100/tid=922/

ただし、リロード/F5の意図的かつ継続的な行為に関しては、
サーバに負荷をかける利用規約違反として、比較的強い対応
をとらせて頂く場合もございます。

and

>F5はマズい
jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/netgame/12541/1378799601/6

>規約第6条(禁止事項)
■迷惑行為
(5)不適切に当社のサーバーその他システムに負担をかける行為

F5アタックはコレに抵触するな

there was also something in mid October mentioning f5 abuse but i couldn't find it with a quick search.

>> No.11647883

>>11647846
These seem to be about hitting F5 continously to cause server load, not about skipping some battles every 5 min or so.

>> No.11647886

Why don't we have any good yuri porn yet?
Why doesn't fem-admiral appear in more porn?

>> No.11647907

>>11647886
Japan is shit.
and
Japan is /shit/.

>>11647883
that actually makes sense compared to "omg le cheating!"

>> No.11647959

>>11647907
I admire how you make it sound like its DMMs fault for banning people for cheating, as if they forced you to cheat at an online browser game.

>> No.11647981

>>11647959
No, I make it sound like why the fuck would they care if someone f5's out of fights? The reload probably creates less server exchange packets and protocol and thus less stress than the battle and drop(if any)

They don't lose any money from people F5'ing out of sorties. So they won't really actively pursue banning anyone.

>> No.11647993

What's a good training node for a low level DD team?

>> No.11648001

>>11647993
4-2 sub hunts.

>> No.11648009

>>11648001
that actually works? they don't get reckt by the subs? do they actually manage to kill stuff?

>> No.11648034

>>11648009
You talking shit about the best class in game?

>> No.11648042

>>11648034
No, I'm seriously asking if you can just take lvl 15ish DD to 4-2 for the sub node and kill stuff and whether they can actually finish those subs off.
Do they need a BB to babysit them for 2nd shelling?

>> No.11648052

>>11648042
You'd still need a BB and a CV because there are two normal nodes there and the extra shelling phase makes sure you wipe out the subs. But yeah, even unremodeled DDs can kill the subs there as long as you use ASW equips and horizontal.

>> No.11648055

>>11647981
You still sound like an entitled babby whining about a game that you're not really supposed to play in the first place.

>> No.11648059

>>11648042
Think about it yourself. Do you want to forgo a BB, sub tank and CVL just to level 6DD who will get damaged hard on the first node?

>> No.11648061

>>11647981
Under that logic, why should any online game ban cheaters? Blizzard shouldn't care if someone cheats at Starcraft, since they already got their money when they bought the game.

>> No.11648072

>>11648061
Because in competitive games such as MMOs or starcraft, cheaters do cause a money loss. If they were not actively banned, tournaments and such would not exist and that by itself is a huge money loss.

>> No.11648084

>>11648072
When people harvest the steel node, it's less people who buy steel from their shop. That's a money loss as well.

>> No.11648088

>>11648084
I have my doubts that incurs any measurable loss

>> No.11648091

As a new teitoku, 3-2-a is just wonderful. I got 3 of the Kougou sisters, and various other great ships on top of the exp.

>> No.11648095

>>11648091
Agreed, the only problem I seem to be having is fatigue.

>> No.11648100

>>11648095
Just swap your daughters after every 2 runs. I bet you have more than 3-4 ships you want to level.

>> No.11648107

>>11648088
Well, when it comes down to it, it's DMM's prerogative to decide that. It's not like they're losing money for banning people for F5ing either. It just seems rather silly to be upset that a company is banning people for not following the rules. That's standard practice, if you don't eject a rulebreaker, it encourages others to follow.

>> No.11648108

>>11647981
it makes the cash for steel purchase worthless, as why would anyone spend cash when they can cheat and f5 on 3-2, hence costing them money.

and f5 is far more server load than doing the battle, as every reload makes the server fetch and send ALL your account info, ship levels and equipment configurations etc as none of that is cached.

>> No.11648115

God damn, you faggots F5ing for steel better not be the cause of all of the lag in this game.

>> No.11648121
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11648121

What, this argument again?

>> No.11648185

Tons of tries at 3-2-A and still no subs. Fuck damn.

>> No.11648192

>>11648185
3-2 doesn't drop subs

>> No.11648194

>>11648185
It would be fun if you got what you wanted within 10 tries, wouldn't it? Too bad this game isn't supposed to be fun.

>> No.11648203

>>11648192
Oh, I mean 3-3.
>>11648194
I will never stop till I get it.

>> No.11648211

>>11648203
You will get it sooner or later.
She has the same rarity as all the common destroyer drop there. You just need the game to cycle through the drop table up to Imuya. Who knows maybe you can get Mutsu too.

>> No.11648219

>>11648211
I already got Maikaze, but I don't think she's really rare.

>> No.11648313

Does anyone here bother to do the world4 boss weekly?
I have been thinking if it is worth it to farm 4-1/4-2 for it. Not sure if it is worth since you are basically to trading steel and bucket for bauxite and exp.

>> No.11648322

>>11648313
I did 4-1 boss with subs only

>> No.11648331
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11648331

Any new info in this? like more detailed effects of the formations?

>> No.11648364

>>11648331
No, it only tells how these formations are used in actual naval combat.

>> No.11648371

>>11648331
>Night battle and air combat are not affected by formation choice.
Myth busted?

>> No.11648384

>>11648371
for maps that start at night, formation works
for the after-day night battle, formation is irrelevant.

>> No.11648414

>>11648331
In the description for crossing the T it says that fleet A will have an advantage over fleet B in the game. Is this image wrong or do people have no idea what they're talking about when they say crossing the T gives both sides the damage boost?

>> No.11648426

>>11648414
It's talking about in real life.

>> No.11648429

>>11648414
No one said that both sides get a damage boost.
One side will always get the advantage, as shown by the text under the Crossing the T notification.

>> No.11648447

>>11648414
Many of these magazines aren't in any way official and are just clueless as the players. Often times they are wrong.

>> No.11648451

>>11648426
>ゲーム内では、A艦隊がB艦隊に対して有利になる修正が入る。

Just what fucking part of that says real life? It says IN THE GAME right there.

>> No.11648455

>>11648451
Then they are wrong, because it works on both sides.

>> No.11648464

>>11648414
Do more 2-3 subs run. Everything you get T-cross advantage, your subs will get raped hard.
Who knows if it is a bug or game design choice.

>> No.11648468

>>11648464
In the game, crossing the T boost both sides' firepower. Depending on the situation, it's better to cross the T with green on your side, especially if you're trying to clear the boss.

>> No.11648469

>>11648451
>左は、ゲーム内で選択できる艦隊陣形の、実戦での使われ方である。

>公表されておらず

>傾向がある

>ゲーム内では、
>では、
>では、

>確率が変わるようだ
>ようだ

They list how actual formations works in real combat then put speculations about the games.

>> No.11648472

>>11648468
Or doing PVP. I swear, red T cross is a fucking "miss" fest on PVP and then you usually lose.

>> No.11648474

Quick question regarding 3-2 grinding.
I'm currently running the suggested fleet composition from the wiki using a sub, but I'm not getting the grinding to its fullest effect because my torpedoes seem to miss about 90% of the time. In addition my sub is always damaged to about 1 or 2 hp at the end of the battle. It's gotten to the point where I ended up just putting my sub in the flagship position as insurance since I really don't want her to sink. So, do I just have bad luck or am I doing something wrong?

>> No.11648477

>>11648474
you don't deal enough air strike and torpedo damage
2 carrier types, 1 CLT, better 2 CLT and 90% of the enemy is dead before shelling begins

>> No.11648479

>>11648474
Don't use a sub there. The yellow guy has depth charges and sonar and those items were improved.

>> No.11648481

>>11648474
It depends on what kind of ship you're grinding if you ask me. When I was grinding the torpedoes monster, I rotate my subs around and add a CVL loaded with torpedoes bomber (Tenzen and above) only. Most often than not, half of the enemies will be cleared by the air raid.

>> No.11648483

>>11648479
Those ASW weapon buff was only for players side.

>> No.11648484

>>11648483
Oh, great then. But they still hit my Iku for 8 damage.

>> No.11648486

>>11648472
Likewise for green T, the first shot is usually the most important as that would mean taking out or crippling one of their ships. That said, PvP is still a RNG fest; I have situation where both sides missed most of the time even when not T-crossed.

>>11648483
Could still screw you up if your sub isn't high level enough.

>> No.11648487

>>11648477
>>11648481
Alright, I just get to crafting more of Tenzens then.
>>11648479
Good to know then, I thought they were only buffed for the player side only. Thanks for the help all of you.

>> No.11648489

>>11648486
Yeah, I had that happen to me too. And stuff like my ships always missing and theirs always hitting for huge damage.

>> No.11648490

>>11648484
What nukes your sub is their changes anti-sub node in September.
Not recent asw patch.

>> No.11648492

>>11648474
Sub will never sink on their first node. Just dont misclick after grabbing the steel. Depending on your sub level, your repair time should not exceed 20mins even at 1hp.
To me I just run 3-2 with sub+bb+4 of anything that I want to level. 4-1 gives more experience for fatigue but you run a higher risk of eating chip damage from CA and having your sub sink on the 2nd node due to misclick.

>> No.11648495

>>11648474
You don't need the sub in flagship because you're not going to night battle or the next node. Flagship is for whoever you want to level the fastest.

You probably just need more firepower, unless you have enough subs to rotate. If anything, higher level subs are worse because they take longer to repair.

>> No.11648498

>>11648490
>>11648484

Err, my bad.
I meant August patch.

>> No.11648502

>>11648490
>>11648498
Jesus fuck, one of the guys from the sub node on 4-1 just hit her for 12 now. And another one for 4 more.

>> No.11648503

>>11648487
Reminder to use 21 60 20 131
Been getting at least 1 holo plane a day once I started to use this recipe for my daily.

>> No.11648518

>>11648474
Always use line ahead.

Don't bother putting the sub in flagship. Can't sink in first node, waste of flagship XP that should go to the ship you need to train the most.

>> No.11648529

>>11648502
Mix sub node in 4-1 has 50% chance of using horizontal formation.
It will kill your sub when you miss initial torpedo.

>> No.11648827

I bought that teaset for Kongou, that kotatsu for Kaga, but I don't know to whom I should give that mahjong table. Maybe Junyou?

>> No.11648828
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11648828

If you can only just do this, seeing your shipdaughters getting overwhelmed by her fleet and then suddenly you jump in into the fight and decimated every enemy unit in sight. Leaving your shipdaughters in awe.

>> No.11648835

>>11648827
Submarine-chan

>> No.11648845

>>11648827
>but I don't know to whom I should give that mahjong table.
Obviously for Akagi.

>> No.11648851

>>11648845
She'll eat the tile instead of playing it.

>> No.11648864

>>11648851
Not before playing a game of death involving the draining of blood for every loss.

>> No.11648868

>>11648851
Told you not to make the tiles with steel.

>> No.11649007

>>11648827
You got 3furniture fairy?
Bought the third one with real money? I only got 2so far off quest.

>> No.11649021
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11649021

There's like a 50% rise in crit probability when I go out with a fleet and support fleet both sparkling.

>> No.11649024

>>11649007
Free 500 points from registering CC.

>> No.11649025

>>11649021
I noticed that too. Try sparkling only your non BBs, that worked for me.

>> No.11649093
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11649093

Another peaceful day in Japan.

>> No.11649191
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>>11649093
yep

>> No.11649250

>>11649191

Since they're technically ships, it's totally legal, right?

>> No.11649259

>>11649250
Pretty sure there's no laws against fucking ships.

>> No.11649265
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11649265

>>11649093

>> No.11649268

>>11649250
Depends on whether you consider their revival date their date of birth.

>> No.11649294
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>>11649259

>> No.11649362

between atwiki or wikiwiki, which drop list is more trustable?

>> No.11649375

>>11649362
wikiwiki is generally superior to atwiki.

>> No.11649384

>>11649250
Maritime law dictates that the victim of a sexual assault should demonstrate physical injury in order for the harasser to be held responsible.

Since shipdaughters are made to withstand hits from naval guns and the like, there isn't much that a puny human penis can do to physically injure them.

Ergo, raping shipdaughters is perfectly legal.

>> No.11649401
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11649401

What on Earth are the japs up to...

>> No.11649408

>>11649401
Kancolle is niwaka material now?

>> No.11649413

>>11649384
Conversely, you're talking about ships that weigh in tons and carries pocket-sized naval cannons and torps. Successfully raping them is going to be a heroic feat.

>> No.11649424

>>11649413
Magic hentai drugs could take down even goddesses.

>> No.11649436

>>11649384
>>11649424
Please love your shipgirls tenderly.

>> No.11649446
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At least it gives males something nice to wear.

>> No.11649542
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11649542

Looks like she(?) finished E5.

>> No.11649575

>>11649542
Why is musashi being so lewd

>> No.11649645

How the fuck did I send my ships to a 4 hour expedition instead of a support one, I wish you could quit expeditions.

>> No.11649650

>>11649645
The exact thing happened to me a while ago. Holy fuck it was frustrating.

>> No.11649657

>>11649645
>>11649650
I did it too, we can almost start a club.

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>> No.11649665

>>11649645
At least I didnt messed up that badly. I hope you didnt send it out with four BBs.
I failed a 4hour full sparkle expedition because I forgot to refuel my last ship after doing 1-1.

>> No.11649690

>>11649663
Now add Iku and you have the three lewdest ships currently in the game.

>> No.11649695

>>11649690
Iku's busy with her "Torps"

>> No.11649697

>>11649695
>>11649690
I wonder what those IJN perverts were thinking when they named their sub "I AM CUMMING"

>> No.11649699

>>11649697
I don't think they were thinking of that. Wasn't it the porn industry that started that iku-thing?

>> No.11649700
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11649700

Nobody remembers Kisaragi.

>> No.11649709

>>11649700
Isn't it sad, Kisaragi? You try to be a slut in order to be memorable and yet, you still fail at it. Now not only are you not memorable but you're only remembered when you will be reminded as that "one lewd destroyer, no, I'm not talking about Shimakaze."

>> No.11649712

>>11649700
>>11649709
Why is she a slut again? She dressed quite modestly from what I see.
Never used her, never kept a spare of her so I have never heard her lines.

>> No.11649714

>>11649712
You threw away a slut!?!?

>> No.11649718

>>11649712
She's probably the only one that can officially be called that.

>> No.11649723
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11649723

>>11649714
>>11649718
Well I had her damaged sprite at least when I sent her out to 1-1 as cannon fodder to sparkle my ship. I guess look can be deceiving since she doesnt look like a slut at all. Guess I will go check out her lines.

>> No.11649724

>>11649712
>so I have never heard her lines.
This is a weird time to direct you to the wiki:
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Kisaragi#Quotes

If she gets any time report, she will probably be on everybody's PvP listing.

>> No.11649727

>>11649697
She wasn't called iku, it's because of that Japanese number magic thing.

The in her name 19 was "daijuku" (as in "the 19th submarine" because Japanese submarines aren't assigned names) instead of "iku".

>> No.11649731

>>11649724
wow.

>> No.11649733

>>11649724
>可愛い新人さんだといいわねぇ
>I hope the newbie is a babe
This is one of the reasons not to completely trust a wiki.

>> No.11649752

This is a dumb question but I want to be sure.
If I used the API link, my progress would be saved online right? not just locally?
Also what do you guys use more? API or VPN

>> No.11649757

>>11649752
it's an online game, so all data is saved on their servers.

>> No.11649774

>>11649752
saved online? why would that happen?, it's an offline flash game found on browser

>> No.11649783

>>11649774
Tell us more, time traveler. What else is the Vita version like?

>> No.11649792

I want a spinoff where you play mahjong with ships.

>> No.11649793

>>11649752
Please don't use abbreviations you don't understand. You use the same API when playing on VPN, there is no difference in the gameplay.
Using the API link without VPN is just much faster.

>> No.11649796

>>11649792
Akagi will be the final boss?

>> No.11649797

>>11649783
It has a military cemetery where you can visit the graves of your sunken shipdaughters. Sometimes you will see their ghosts and they will try to cheer you up by saying that it wasn't your fault (even though it was) and that they are glad that they were sunk while doing their best.

There's also a chapel where you can marry a shipdaughter, but you will need to buy a priest fairy first. The lesbian ships can also marry each other.

The district your HQ is located in is available for exploration and you will have to visit the places frequented by the ship you want to marry in order to trigger her flags, but the location you go is determined entirely by the compass and 90% of the players end up on the Naka-chan route.

>> No.11649798

Going to do the boss node with Maya at 14/55.
Lets see if she sinks.

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>>11649798
Seems safe. Doesnt look like there is any rounding error issue for borderline HP.

>> No.11649820

>>11649796
Ye gods I was not expecting that. Lol'd heartily. Well played, anon sir.

>> No.11649826

>>11649793
Well I see people saying that they can't see the rankings or change their fleet's name when using API link so I wanted to be sure.
Sure I don't fully understand the abbreviations but then if I don't use them what else am I supposed to call them so that other people can understand what I'm referring to.

>> No.11649834

>>11649826
>can't see the rankings or change their fleet's name when using API link
Yes, but that doesn't affect your ranking, you still get points.

>> No.11649864

Christ, support fleet is so great. Bombed E-3-1 dead essentially by itself with over 500 combined damage. I wish destroyer supports were better than they are, though. I have 18 oxygen torpedoes in it and they cut in for 15 combined damage every time.

>> No.11649877

>>11649864
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Expedition#Support_Expeditions
>High miss chance and High damage.
You're not likely to get more than chip-damage with torpedo supports, unfortunately.

>> No.11649879

Any good remixes of the event combat tune? I can only find the following:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22244813
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22171698
And arguably this, if you can this a remix:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22172459

>> No.11649884

>>11649877
More like high miss chance and low damage.

It's not like they're high level, they're in their fifties, but still. This is the part where I complain about torpedo damage being balanced around the torpedo monsters and regular destroyers not having a chance.

>> No.11649895

>>11649884
Have you tried it with ships that have higher max torpedo than the average DD?

>> No.11649908

>>11649884
Having low accuracy might affect whether you graze or heavily damage the enemy, if you manage to hit them at all.

>> No.11649916

>>11649895
I never got around to leveling my holo destroyers or Kuma-class cruisers, so no.

>>11649908
Figures. I guess I'll try out radar stacks, it doesn't cost that much to sent out a torpedo team anyway.

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Updated,

>> No.11649943

Anyone planning to burn all their resources in a last attempt at E7? 2 days left

>> No.11649946

>>11649943
I'm still stuck at E4 so I'm going to burn everything I have at it tomorrow. If I fail, then so be it.

>> No.11649947

>>11649943
I am. Two Yahagis and still no Agano in sight. Gonna burn all of my remaining 30k steel on a bumrush, fuel and ammo is not an issue.

>> No.11649950

33k fuel, 53k steel, 38k ammo, 9k bauxite and 150 buckets.
my euqipment is a bit crap because I keep getting rng trolled but my main fleet level averages 50 so I hope I can take E-4 tomorroq

>> No.11649956

>>11649943
Farming for rare destroyers in the current event maps is more grief than it's worth. Ended up getting Naganami normally whilst leisurely completing 4-4.

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>> No.11649964

>>11649963
>13:54
Why

>> No.11649967

>>11649964
It's about 4 am in the west coast, my friend. Not everyone is in Europe.

>> No.11649970

Got Mutsu, Nagato, Goya and 2 Agano from E7 but Yagahi still hasn't dropped in over 70 sorties, feels like I used all my luck already.

>> No.11649972

about what level is a good time to start E1?

>> No.11649974

>>11649970
Out of curiosity.. of those 70 sorties, how much made it to the boss and how much were A/S ranks ?

>> No.11649976

>>11649972
Once you have a BB and CVs/CVLs you should be able to give it a shot. I did it at HQ lvl 18.

>> No.11649978

>>11649970
At least you manage to get decent drops.

>> No.11649980

>>11649970
That is pretty good.
I am still missing Nagato and Agano.

>> No.11649982

>>11649974
Not that anon but in my 35, sorties I made it to the boss 11 times with 1S. I still don't know how people make it to the boss so easily.

>> No.11649984

So Arashio, yay or nay? She gives me the Tatsuta vibe and when I say that, I mean her voice makes my dick diamond.

>> No.11649986

>>11649970
For those people getting to E7 consistently, is the top or middle route better? Going top for E5, when I did get to the boss I could consistently get S ranks without the need for support. The downside is that the rate of getting sent NE was around fifty percent. Is the middle route a more practical alternative?

>> No.11649987

>>11649974
17 S ranks, 23 A ranks, the rest were failures or NE trolling, sparkling almost every time.

>> No.11649990

>>11649970
I know that feel man. I've gotten 2 Mutsus, Nagato, Imuya, and Agano myself. Currently at 0 buckets and can't repair my damaged ships from my last run. RNG crit trolling me especially hard after picking up Agano. Seven out of my last 10 sorties were withdrawals for red damage, five at of Node A and two at Node I. The three victories were only A clears.

>> No.11649993

>>11649984
I say listen to you dick.

>> No.11649996

>>11649984
Just use whoever you like.

>> No.11649999

>>11649986
whats your set up without support? 2BB 2DD/CA 2CLT?

>> No.11650001

>>11649986
>I could consistently get S ranks without the need for support
Just what kind of monstrous team are you using?

>> No.11650000

>>11649986
Top. Getting past 2route without going red is easy. I take the chance with the compass. It is about 50/50 anyway.

Middle route isnt that easy as you need to go through 3nodes without going red.

>> No.11650007

Guys, the wiki said I-168 is a 4-1 non-boss node drop, wikiwiki says boss only, and atwiki doesn't even mention I-168, which do I trust?

>> No.11650009

>>11650007

>>11649362
>>11649375

>> No.11650010

>>11650007
When in doubt, trust wikiwiki. That said, I got her on 2-3.

>> No.11650012

>>11649986
I have 29 attempts using the north route with 13 boss encounters, 2 S, 10 A, 1 C, 8 withdrawals at D node, and 8 NE dead ends.

For middle route 16 attempts, 8 boss encounters, 3 S, 5 A, 3 withdrawals at I node.

I also have 5 withdrawals at Node A but that's not exclusive to the middle route so I don't count that.

>> No.11650013

>>11650009
how about wikia?

>> No.11650016

>>11650013
Wikia sources most of it's info from the Japanese wikis.

>> No.11650017

>>11650016
so how did 4-1 non-boss node drop appeared? maybe it needs a revision

>> No.11650018
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>>11649982
Are you using support? They guarantee you a S rank.

>> No.11650022

>>11650007
Best place to farm her without event is at 3-3 since she drop at the first node and the difficulty of that node is 3-2-A tier.
If your fleet can do E-3 without problem, I suggest you to farm her at E-3.

>> No.11650025

>>11650018
Stop spouting that bullshit, they don't.

>> No.11650027

>>11650018
Are you using midget sub as well or 2 yellow gun+dmg con? My CLTs keep on getting hit on the way to the boss.

>> No.11650028

>>11650022
I planned to do that, until compass chan decides to waste all my buckets and resources by zigzagging me my first 4 times trying to clear the map, and I gave up the event completely after 10 tries

>> No.11650029

>>11650018
They really don't. Half the time they only take out one ship and sometimes they don't show up at all. Still managed to S rank it one time they were a no show and the drop was Haguro. Great for morale. Cheeky fucks still demanded 400 ammo though. And it's not like the support I'm fielding is weak, I've seen them take out all three fortresses before or one and the demon. It just seems like a 1/10 chance for them to earn their pay.

>> No.11650030

>>11649999
>>11650001
The usual two Kongou, 2 CA, 2CLT. I always retreated if I ended a node on red, since I assumed it wasn't likely I was going to win the boss battle with one ship down, so this skewed my results. "Consistently" might be a little strong, but I got S rank a little under half the time with that fleet. E5 was still a real bitch because I got sent to the NE node half the time, so my end result was 45 sorties and 20 hours of continuous play just to beat it.

>>11650000
There were people that swore by middle route as the most efficient, I was just wondering if it actually proved to be true. I can do the top route just fine, it just is slow and results in compass frustration half the time.

>>11650012
On the other hand, the middle route seems a little more reliable for you. Are you using support for the middle route, or just going in raw?

>> No.11650031

>>11650027
I dont use damage con. I even push through with borderline 25% HP. I trust my girls to survive.

>> No.11650032

>>11650029
That's why you at least sparkle the DDs in your support. I have yet to see a no show from my support fleet.

>> No.11650033

Just got my third Yahagi, I'm not sure if I'm lucky or not. I'd love to get girls that I don't already have such as Nagato.

>> No.11650035

>>11650018
Not when during night battle Kita/Ooi decides to say fuck it and miss their attacks.

I had Iron Bottom Sound at fucking red and Kitakami did scratch damage for god knows why and Ooi refusing to hit her in the first place.

>> No.11650036

And of course, the one time I have a perfect E5 run through first two nodes it sends me to a NE dead end.

Gotta love this game.

>> No.11650037

>>11650035
Ouch. RNG is a very cruel mistress

>> No.11650040
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>>11650029
You dont need 2BB as they bring the cost way up. 1BB with 2CV/L is enough to clear 2trash mob.
Do you sparkle the support flagship? They have showed up for me 100% of the time.

>> No.11650046

>>11650030
Absolutely need a support for middle route IMO. I generally run 2 BB, 2 CV, 2DD for support with a main fleet of 1 BB, 1 DD, 2 CA, 2 CLT. Occasionally, I swap out the DD for a CA.

>>11650029
I always sparkle the flagship of my support fleet, and it has always appeared for me.

>> No.11650044

E-3 finished: 6k fuel and ammo, 3.5k steel and bauxite, 15 buckets expended on decisive run, around 4k fuel and ammo spent testing compositions.

Main fleet:
74 Junyou - Suisei 12, Suisei x3
62 Fusou - 46cm, 41cm, 15cm, Zuiun
43 Kaga - Ryuusei, Ryuusei Kai, Reppu, Ryuusei
57 Yamashiro (Battleship) - 46cm, 15cm, Type 91, Type 21
62 Kako - 20.3cm, 15.5cm, 8cm, Type 22
51 Haguro - 20.3cm, 15.5cm x2, Sanshiki

Advance Support:
66 Ryuujou - Ryuusei x2, Tenzan, Saiun
31 Zuihou - Ryuusei, Tenzan x3
61 Kirishima - 41cm x4
26 Haruna - 41cm x3, Type 22
44 Nagatsuki - 10cm x2, Type 93 Sonar
40 Ikazuchi - 10cm x2, Type 13 Radar

Final Support (last two battles):
55 Akagi - Tenzan x3, Suisei
40 Zuikaku - Tenzan x3, Saiun
39 Chitose Kou - Zuiun x3
24 Murakumo - 10cm x2, 61cm Oxygen
65 Akebono - 61cm Oxygen, 10cm, Type 93 Sonar
26 Houshou - Type 52, Type 97, Suisei

Remaining Resources: 11k fuel, 10k ammo, 14k steel, 4k bauxite, 175 buckets'.

E-4/5/6/7 Status: Not happening.

>> No.11650054

What's up with Kongou and tanyao? Is it some sort of reference to Ako from Saki?

>> No.11650055
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How do you guys farm insane amount of resources, some I saw was beyond 10k. Is it because of expeditions and by not sortieing?

I have now my fourth fleet, any tips to hoard faster? I always ran out of steels because of my BBs and CVs.

>> No.11650058
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>>11650055
10k is nothing, and quests give a steady stream of resources. You just have to be efficient in completing them

>> No.11650059

>>11650055

Expeditions 3 and 5 running all day. 4th fleet on number 2 or 17 to taste. 2-3 sub-only quest/farming runs.

>> No.11650060

>>11650055
Stop running so many BBs and CVs.

In fact, unless you're trying to clear a very hard map for the first time, you should probably only have 1 to 2 BB in your fleet.

>> No.11650061

>>11650055
use cheaper ships maybe, spam expedition 3 for steel, 5 for fuel/ammo, 6 for bauxite

>> No.11650062

>>11650055
>I always ran out of steels because of my BBs and CVs.
There you go. CV and BB burn ammo and fuel too. If you really want to accumulate more resources while playing as much as you want, you have to be shrewd.

>> No.11650065

>>11650055
10k isn't an insane amount, it fills up if you do your expeditions and don't waste too many resources on repairs/crafting.
You can get even more resources if you actively farm for them

>> No.11650067

>>11650058
people like these make me unable to get even to the top 1000 in the ranking

>> No.11650068

>>11650055
Expeditions, all the time, forever.

>>11650054
Apparently it's all in the pose:

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=タンヤオ

>> No.11650069

been playing for a bit over 2 weeks
40k fuel, 63k steel, 53k ammo, 17k baux, main fleet averages lvl 50
I wish I started a few months ago. I'd be in the six, maybe even seven figure league of res by now

>> No.11650071

>>11650067
Just play smart and spam expedition. At the end of the day, if you wish to be a jew, manage your resources like a responsible husband raising his family.

>> No.11650073

Been playing around three months. Have around 20k of everything except 10k bauxite. Main fleet around level 65. As you can see, not playing very seriously.

>> No.11650074

>>11650069
>2weeks
what is this sorcery? you probably cleared e5 too.

>> No.11650075

>>11650068
Huh. The first thing she reminded me of when I saw her was Haruhi/Phoenix Wright.

>> No.11650076

>>11650069
That's very wasteful. Craft more.

>> No.11650077

Perfect run to boss and then lose in a horrific D rank defeat. Thank you RNG, as if all the Cs I've gotten isn't enough.

>> No.11650078

>>11650069
w.t.f.

>> No.11650080

>>11650073
August baby? If so, same here. My resources only shot up to 20K recent when I really started spamming expeditions while sortie-ing as little as possible.

>> No.11650084

>>11650074
haven't touched E-4 yet
Grinding my ass off to Kai2 Ooi before I seriously attempt it

>>11650076
man, I've been having so much horrible luck with crafting equipment, you'd probably point ten fingers at me to laugh

40 tries for a 46cm cannon, HQ level 57 and Kongou Kai as flag and I haven't gotten any of the following: ( with 10/90/90/60 recipe )
Sanshiki
AP ammo
41cm cannon
46cm cannon
15.5 secondary
Turbine

>> No.11650091

>>11650084
you're just bragging at this point, gtfo

>> No.11650090

>>11650084
You probably need to read the wiki

>> No.11650093

>>11650080
Yeah, I barely caught the tail event of that event but couldn't clear E-1 because no battleship, no ASW, and I hadn't leveled Isuzu or Yura at all. I burned dozens of development materials trying and failing to make ASW weapons, back before failures refunded it.

In the first week or so I was playing all day, but these days I'll just check in for a few hours every now and then.

>> No.11650094

>>11650084
you expect 46cm guns with that recipe?

>> No.11650095

>>11650084
40 really isn't a lot. I did maybe a hundred using that for sanshiki and only got three. And that's not the recipe you should be using for AP, 46, or turbine anyway. I get way more reliable results with 100/300/250/10.

>> No.11650096

>>11650084
>40 tries for a 46cm cannon
>( with 10/90/90/60 recipe )
Correct me if I'm wrong, you try to get 46cm for a AP/type-3 ammo? Is that even possible?

>> No.11650097

Having lots of resources isn't a goal in itself, they are meant to be used.
There's nor good nor bad management, just play the way you want.

Some want to get ships from craft, other from drops, some don't care about high end equip until a long time, and so on.
The only time when you should actually save is the few weeks before and event.

I personally spent a lot during my first month or so, to get the 4th fleet and be able to farm effectively. Once 3-2 is unlocked, you can take it easier too.

Now I make around 25k/25k/25k/15k each week if I really want to stockpile.

>> No.11650103

>>11650094
>>11650095
>>11650096
brain farted and mixed up things, my error.

did around 30 tries with 100/300/250/10 a few days ago. last post still aplies. I'm just about ready to try E-4 without sanshiki or 46cm

>> No.11650104

>>11650084

Now I'm convinced you are trolling, autistic, retarded or any combination of the above..

>> No.11650105

>>11650097
>Having lots of resources isn't a goal in itself, they are meant to be used.
While that's true, you would want to get as many resources as possible mainly so that when the event comes, resources would not be a factor in clearing the event maps. RNG can only be countered by throwing resources into its gaping maw.

>> No.11650110

>>11650104
Everyone who spams the 20 minute expedition every 20 minutes for all their waking hours is at least a little but autistic.

>> No.11650111

>>11650103
This may sound very superstitious but try another BB if you wish to get 46cm or type-3. BBs I used rarely for crafting yield me rare items more than those I use regularly.

>> No.11650116

>>11650105
That's why he said a couple of weeks before events. If you think you can have 30-40k before an event, I think that's more than safe.

>> No.11650121

any recommendations on what support fleet to use for E-4?

>> No.11650122

>>11650110
Y-you too...

Well to be fair I only do that during events, plus I'm sure people have already set up a bot that automatically does expeditions for them.

>> No.11650123

>>11650110
It's not as if we actually count the ticking of the clock and check every 20mins, right? Right?

>> No.11650125

>>11650123
There are timer apps so we don't have to.

>> No.11650126

>>11650122
people that use bots are just terrible attention whores if you ask me

>> No.11650128

>>11650097
I don't even know what to do with all the resources I have now.

I'm going to spend some for sure on E-7 because Agano's the only event ship I still don't have but I'm currently at 50 - 60K ammo/fuel, 30k steel and 20k bauxite. A month ago and I would have eagerly spent all this on autistic grinding but this event has been so draining that I'm kind of burnt out on the game.

>> No.11650131

>>11650126
Some people just enjoy victory. It's the MMO mentality. Grind to win.

>>11650122
>>11650123
Autism is a charm point. Be proud.

>> No.11650132

Fellow teitokus, I got Imuya and Iku. I heard that they are use for farming? How can I possibly do that in 2-3? They always get hit by enemy DDs.

>> No.11650134

>>11650132

Get them levels and turbines. They'll start dodging most stuff soon.

>> No.11650135

>>11650132
They get hit -> level up -> get stronger -> not get hit.

>> No.11650138

>>11650131
Well if you want to win, then earn it

Using bots and winning is so shameful, anyone that feels happy from it are attention whores

>> No.11650139

>>11650132
I heard you could increase evasion by levelling up and equipping turbines.

>> No.11650140

>>11650134
>>11650135
They are both level 10, so I should continue scouring 2-3 until when? Is there a setbacks on this?

>> No.11650142

>>11650140
Get max armor, continue until they start damaging minimal or start missing a lot

>> No.11650144

>>11650132
Anon, dont trust the wiki.
Modernized and max out their armor.
Once you do that they only take 1damage/hit without t-cross advantage.

>> No.11650146

Is that 20-minute expedition effective? Specifically for oil, I personally choose the 4-hour expedition one, checking the game every 20 minutes is quite tiring, and with the resupply, the result isn't quite worthed.

>> No.11650149

God damn it, I think I scrapped my Myouko because I swear I had one, and now I find out I need her.
Suffering.

>> No.11650152
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11650152

>>11650146
Just do ex5 with full sparkled fleet.
Steel can be easily farmed from 3-2.

>> No.11650154

>>11650146
Don't tell me you're using a full fleet for expeditions. 3 nets a ridiculous amount of fuel and steel if you keep at it.

>> No.11650155

>>11650146
fuel: expedition 5 -> 9 -> 3
ammo: expedition 2 -> 5 -> 3
steel: farming 3-2 node -> expedition 3 -> 17
baux: expedition 6 -> 11

>> No.11650157

>>11650146
Check wiki
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Expedition#Hourly_rate
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Expedition#Theoretical_Hourly_Net_Earnings

Try using the cheapest possible ships and composition as well(usually 1CL 3DD), Yuubari for fuel and Tenryuu for ammo. Don't use Shimakaze in expeditions, she uses up slightly more fuel and ammo than others. Mutsuki class destroyers use less ammo than other destroyers too

>> No.11650158

>>11650146
expedition 3 is for steel, the fuel and ammo is just a bonus to pay the costs for your other expedition fleets. Use 5 for fuel.

>> No.11650159

>>11650158
with the right setup you make a net gain of around 50 fuel+ammo / hour from expedition 3.
times 23 thats over 1k of each

>> No.11650162

>>11650138
This game is basically like gambling. Scripts just cut out the dull, monotonous income-earning so you can concentrate on having fun playing dice.

>> No.11650168

>>11650159
Well, original comment was for fuel. Going by the 4 hour 350 fuel expedition, it would be better.

>> No.11650170

>>11650168
see
>>11650155
and >>11650152

>> No.11650171

>>11650159
compare that with what you'd get from expedition 5.

>> No.11650172

>>11650157
Most fuel-efficient ships are subs. Instead of scrapping that hundredth Imuya from 3-3-A grinding you could stick her into an expedition fleet. Mutsuki class are still the most ammo-efficient though.

>> No.11650176

>>11650168
This. With long expedition, you can do less sparkling too.

>> No.11650179

>>11650172
Yeah, but can you use subs in place of destroyers?

>> No.11650180

>>11650154
Usual expedition fleet is 1 CL + 3 DD.
>>11650155
>>11650168
I'm using 5, 9, and 13. I'm also considering 17, if my subs aren't at work. I just don't think checking every 20 minutes worth the effort.

>> No.11650184

>>11650180
I use expedition 2, 5 and 9
I only have to resparkle 9 every 2 days, and expedition 5 once a day. expedition 2 needs 3-4 resparkles a day though

>> No.11650186

>>11650179
2, 3, 5, 9 and 17 all have one or more wildcard slots. That's where subs come in. Subs also have the same ammo efficiency as an average DD.

>> No.11650187

>>11650180
5 9 13 is the best if you want to take it easy.
2 and 3 is for truNEET.

>> No.11650188

>>11650184
I don't think it's optimal to sparkle 2.

>> No.11650189

>>11650162
so you have fun just throwing a dice ?
Do you have fun destroying the enemy in RTS games by using codes and all too ?
Is it fun to beat the league in pokemon with action replayed lv100 mewtwos ?

The pleasure you feel from beating a hard map must be damn shallow. In to time you'll have a script to throw the dice for you and you'll only look at the results.

>> No.11650192

>>11650187
I did the complete math on using 3 instead of 9 for with full sparkled fleets. 3 produces a lot less fuel, the ammo gain from 3 is neglible and you can farm steel in 3-2
which means you setup 2-5-9 for fuel/ammo + buckets since Baux is usually not needed in gigantic quantities

>> No.11650194

>>11650189
There is no pleasure of beating a hard map, there is only the relief that you've crossed a part of hell and are greeted by a cute girl which will join your familiy as you've rescued her from the depths of hell.

>> No.11650195

>>11650187
2 and 3 if you're a truNEED for steel and ammo. Fuel-wise, it's pretty inefficient, or even worse, wasteful if you pick the wrong ships to send.

>> No.11650196

http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%B4%CF%C1%A5%BA%C7%C2%E7%C3%CD

Better not scrap your extra yuubari guys. Most coefficient CL.

>> No.11650197

>>11650189
Not him but after E-7 I'm more than willing to cut the battles completely and just see whether or not my ships got crit to red at the end screen.

The anxiety of watching all your ships battle through every node hoping they target the right ships, and the dread of seeing that cut-in animation with wishful thinking it would just do scratch damage, not to mention that delay after the battle rank in checking whether or not you won a ship, has burned me and my resources out.

I'll probably sit out of the Christmas event if they ever plan one.

>> No.11650201

>>11650189
The situations you mention are not comparable, retard. Using cheats in those game remove the skill element as well as aspects of gameplay that are actually fun.

Unless you find that running expeditions constantly and efficiently somehow involves skill instead of just requiring being autistic and having lots of free time to waste, as well as being fun to do instead of something that is monotonous and tedious.

>> No.11650202

>>11650192

3-2 refresh steel node farming is bannable.

>> No.11650203

>>11650202
watch me give precisely zero fucks

>> No.11650204

>>11650195
You shallow fool, have you not heard of the saying "It's not the destination, but the journey that matters most"?

Yeah sure, you can brag about your prize all you want but you will never have a story to tell about how you earned your prize. That is, if you even earned it.

>> No.11650206

>>11650197
It's already comfirmed. Christmas - new year. Arpeggio collab.

>> No.11650209

>>11650204
I can just make a story up and it will work just as well. enjoy your suffering

>> No.11650210

>>11650201
They've already extracted all the sound and image files, if you just want to hang around the girls you can use those instead of putting however many hours into the game.

>> No.11650212

>>11650206
Source ?

>> No.11650213

>>11650201
Quit playing games that require you to do them then, please. You're just lazy, no vegetables are farmed from just planting the seeds and leaving them alone. You have to repeat the boring process of weeding, making sure of no pests and watering daily which is monotonous and tedious.

>> No.11650214

>>11650206
Eh? How is that supposed to work? Watch Apreggio for a code and enter it in order to participate in the event?

>> No.11650217

>>11650209
Well, if you yourself know it's made up, have fun being a made up fake person. You'll only live yourself a lie

>> No.11650215

>>11650206
I wish
I-401 for five subs fleet when

>> No.11650218

>>11650215
Maybe I-401 is the reward for the event.

>> No.11650220

>>11650206
Alternate Takao and Kirishima sprites please devs make it happen.

>> No.11650221

>>11650218
dear god please no. PLEASE NO. I don't want to have to defeat Kongou to get I-401

>> No.11650226

>>11650221
>I don't want to have to defeat Kongou to get I-401
Context? I didn't watch the anime or read the manga.

>> No.11650227

Isn't more hassle when taking each ship in your expedition fleet to sparkle? Is it really worth it?

>> No.11650228

>>11650220
I hope you get the choice to keep the alternate sprite permanently.

Arpeggio's Takao is just does everything better than Kancolle's

>> No.11650230
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11650230

>>11650218
For clearing E-6

>> No.11650229

>>11650220
I want a bear kirishima secretary.

>> No.11650232

>>11650226
Kongou is the flagship and the boss of the villains aka ship-girls in Arpreggio. Basically every ship in her fleet that has a mental model aka a physical body, has now defected for lesbian reasons.

>> No.11650236

>>11650202
By means refreshing? You mean you quit the browser by closing it and then opening it again after getting the resources?

>> No.11650237

Source on this alledged christmas event now or its just bullshit rumor mongering

>> No.11650234

>>11650227
It pretty much increases your resource usage by 50% because of constant 1-1 runs, but it lets you get to the boss much more consistently. A definite must for E4 through E7.

>> No.11650238

>>11650221
Too late now, you've alerted the devs.

Now you will need to sink your Kongo on the E4 map in order to unlock E5 and fight her Fog version. If you win, you get your Kongo back in addition to I401. If you lose, that's it.

>> No.11650241

>>11650228
I totally agree.

>> No.11650242

>>11650237
It's bullshit rumour mongering. Source: Anonymous

>> No.11650239 [DELETED] 

>>11650234

Bullshit. Sparkles do shit all for resisting crits and cut ins.

>> No.11650240

>>11650217
Can't imagine how someone who hates grinding would bother making up a story about how much resources he gained from his grinding. Unless he wanted to fit in and get attention.

>> No.11650244

>>11650234
Not sure if he was asking about support expeditions or just regular expeditions for resources

>> No.11650245

>>11650237
Why should I waste even more of my time to dig up old info for you lazy people?

>> No.11650248

>>11650227
If you sparkled them to the 85 mark, it would take 8 expedition runs before the sparkles wear off.

8 runs of increased gathering is very worth it compared to the 3 1-1 runs you're going to do for each ship

>> No.11650243

>>11650210
The crafting and sorties are at least fun because of the luck-based gameplay, that's why I said this game is akin to gambling. The same cannot be said about expeditions.

>>11650213
Again the analogy you present is not even comparable. The purpose of video games is generally to have fun. Farming's purpose is to generate produce. Doing the monotonous parts of a video game is counterproductive unless you enjoy those parts while those boring parts of farming are essential to ensuring a profitable crop. Furthermore even in farming, a large part of the dull, dirty and tedious work has been automated in the modern world.

>> No.11650253

>>11650237
wiki

>> No.11650255

>>11650248
Fuck my arithmetic, 12 runs

>> No.11650256

>>11650238
>Now you will need to sink your Kongo on the E4 map in order to unlock E5 and fight her Fog version. If you win, you get your Kongo back in addition to I401. If you lose, that's it.
It makes sense, that's why they are pushing for her Kai2 out. It's so that the admirals will feel despair. FUCKING GENIUS.

>> No.11650251

>>11650245
you can't dig up things that don't exist and you're full of shit

>> No.11650252

>>11650232
Good idea, Kirishima and Haruna has defected to I401 anyway. Besides nobody give a fuck about monkey Kongou. Burn her at the stake for all I care.
Also why is Kancolle characters design so shitty? Why is Arpeggio Takao so delicious compare to kancolle Takao?

>> No.11650258

>>11650243
Even in video games, the term "farming" is used, like I said if you don't enjoy this process, just go play CoD or BF that doesn't involve anything about farming.

>> No.11650260

>>11650252
>Also why is Kancolle characters design so shitty?

Because they aren't generally speaking and you're trying to stir shit up.

>> No.11650261

>>11650212
Famitsu Program on nicolive on Friday.
http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv157681183

Capital ship building - mid December
Arpeggio event - late December to new year.

>> No.11650262

>>11650240
Like I said in >>11650126
>attention whores

>> No.11650263

>>11650243
>The crafting and sorties are at least fun because of the luck-based gameplay, that's why I said this game is akin to gambling.
The appeal of Kancolle is 99% girls and simulation and 1% gambling. Otherwise you could literally roll dice and see what happens.

>> No.11650264

>>11650258
>CoD or BF that doesn't involve anything about farming.
I beg to concur. You will have to re-grind weapons attachment for every weapon. Farming is what makes this game hooked you for 1-2 years before they shit out another new version.

>> No.11650265

>>11650227
>Isn't more hassle when taking each ship in your expedition fleet to sparkle? Is it really worth it?
Do the math bro.
Look at >>11650152, and multiply the gain/hour by extra 50%. Still think it isnt worth it?

>> No.11650268

>>11650261
>Capital ship building - mid December
This is like E6/7 incarnate isn't it? Except you don't spend buckets but development tools instead. Granted, no time limit is probably the best thing about it.

>> No.11650269

>>11650265
great success aka 1.5x rate is not 100%

>> No.11650272

>>11650263
However, in order to appreciate the girls and simulation, you have to gamble.

>> No.11650273

>>11650264
I guess you're one of those that like to prestige and shit in CoD or something
>attention whore

>> No.11650276

>>11650261
Thanks, seem that i need some gold premium account to watch that.

>> No.11650279

>>11650272
For most people, grinding helps them appreciate the girls. I'm sure there's a bot out there that will just do 3-2-1 for you until your whole fleet is level ninety so you can have "real fun" in E-4 but I honestly don't see the point in it.

>> No.11650280

>>11650273
The only time I play CoD was during the free weekend to see what it was like and you do have to re-grind every attachment in order for every new shiny gun you get. However, I do play BF3 and that game can be a grindfest.

>> No.11650281

>>11650258
So what point are you trying to make? Because the gaming term 'farming' exists, it somehow makes farming necessarily fun? And that doesn't even cover the vagueness of the term. Farming for a rare item can be essentially rolling dice, just like the combat and crafting of this game.

>>11650263
>The appeal of Kancolle is 99% girls and simulation and 1% gambling

And where did you get those statistics? By pulling it out from your posterior? I suppose you're also going to claim that this sweeping statement about a game's appeal applies to everyone?

>> No.11650283

>>11650279
If you wish to bring back the bot argument we were having, it was for expedition only. I would agree that using a bot for any sortie or sort but expedition-wise, it is arguably sensible.

>> No.11650287

>>11650279
There was one guy that posted a AHK script to grind exped 2 and 5 and 2-3 with a solo sub for fuel, it's not impossible to use it for grinding if you just replaced the solo sub with any other shipgirl since your flagship won't sink anyways.

>> No.11650288

>>11650281
>I suppose you're also going to claim that this sweeping statement about a game's appeal applies to everyone?
It was an estimate. Nobody would play Kancolle if it were Box Raising Simulator but a lot of people still might play if the RNG aspect was replaced with something else.

>>11650283
3-2-1 is fucking uninteresting. Your fleet wins, you get the experience, you go home and do it again until the fatigue piles up.

>> No.11650292

>>11650281
The stats are wrong, but it would not be wrong to say that most of the appeal goes to the ladies and their history.

>>11650283
>I would agree that using a bot for any sortie or sort but expedition-wise,
Apologies, was saying that using bots for sortie kills the game.

>>11650288
I agree but you formed a bond with your fleet. Yes, that makes me sound like a faggot but hell, we're playing a browser game featuring cute personification of WW2 ships as a gimmick.

>> No.11650294

>>11650288
If you find 3-2-1 uninteresting, just refresh the page the moment you select a formation, the battle is calculated the moment you select your formation I think, I haven't really tested or confirmed it though but I know your shipdaughters will take damage/sink if you select formation and refresh instantly

>> No.11650301

>>11650294
>I know your shipdaughters will take damage/sink if you select formation and refresh instantly

There's a small window (I'd say about a second) where one can still refresh. I know this from experience.

>> No.11650302

>>11650294
You are asking to be banned by refreshing.
Just multitask while you play the game, it is not like you need constant attention to play this game.

>> No.11650307

>>11650287
>>11650279
Solo sub for fuel will slaughter your winrate.

>> No.11650311

>>11650301
Oh, guess you can refresh before it's calculated then

>>11650302
I've been multitasking so subconsciously I forgot that was even a suggestion

>> No.11650312

>>11650294
The few times I've refreshed mid-battle I didn't need to pay the fuel/ammo for that fight. If the battle really does auto complete and give you the exp, that's quite an abuse of F5 there.

>> No.11650315

>>11650307
I don't see a point in keeping a >90% sortie winrate yet, but I guess it does look nice when it's above 90%

>> No.11650323

>>11650312
Eeeh, I don't know, one thing for certain though is when I completely spaced out and accidentally clicked on a formation and I refreshed, one of my lesser important shipgirls sunk and I had to pay fuel/ammo for that battle

>> No.11650325

>>11650315
What if large construction docks require you to have <90% win-rate to use!? Or that new event coming out in December!

>> No.11650329
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11650329

goodbye fucking E-5 and 80% NE

>> No.11650330

>>11650325
Oh god, whatever will I do with my 94% winrate.

>> No.11650336

capital construction for yamato and musashi are just gonna end in 90% failure and cost like tens of thousand of steel and fuel to try

>> No.11650337

>>11650325
lower than 90% winrate? why would they do that?

>> No.11650338

What set-up and average level of fleet is best to take on 3-2?

>> No.11650342

>>11650315
>>11650307
>>11650337
Just don't do it so much that you get below 75%. Should be ok if you can script sparkling runs to offset sub losses.

>> No.11650344

>>11650337
>>11650342
Although... it'd be utterly hilarious if you need at least 85% winrate for say E5 event map. That would cause rage to the sub slavers.

>> No.11650346

>>11650329
I swear, whoever design those uniform is blessed by the fetish god. Too bad for the one-sided stocking though, it's a waste.

>> No.11650348

>>11650336
That is cheap considering how much I spent in E5 trying to get rare ships.

>> No.11650349

>>11650348
my question is whether or not if rare capital ships basically mean that you are building off the CV and BB list, or are you still going to run into Nakachan country?

>> No.11650352

>>11650349
most likely an entirely separate building process that can only result in ships that have been the flagship of the IJN at some point

I want to believe

>> No.11650353

>>11650348
Anon did the math earlier on in previous thread. It's actually cheaper do do E5 runs as each run is basically 4x craft opportunities with Rare DD formula, and at a cheaper price.

>> No.11650354

>>11650349
You are talking about kancolle devs here. I wouldnt be surprised if they open the crafting roulette to all ships with yamato being <1% chance.

>> No.11650355

>>11650288
An estimate based on what? Your personal feelings about the matter?

>>11650292
My problem with his statement is that he claims that the luck-based gameplay factors almost nothing into the appeal of the game. I enjoy the themes present in the game but I also enjoy most of the gameplay plenty.

I'll also admit it was a slight exaggeration to say that the combat was basically a dice roll since it at least has a modicum of preparation strategy to it, which I too, find enjoyable. Also, just the voice and art data of the girls alone or a barebones RNG simulator alone are much less interesting to me than a game that combines both in a cohesive manner.

We're talking solely about expeditions here, which I find to be an unenjoyably dull and repetitive aspect of the game, which is nevertheless fixable by a few simple scripts. If you somehow enjoy doing them or cannot derive enjoyment from your game progress without doing them manually then scripts would be detrimental for you, but that's not the case for me.

>> No.11650357

>>11650349
Fuso and Yamashirou would probably be the new fleet idols if they prohibit CA and below from being crafted. This however, would increase the chance of getting rare ships, so it makes sense if they include every ship into it.

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11650359

>>11650269
>>11650265

Okay understood, so I tried sparkling them one by one, first was Tenryuu then followed by two DDs. Here's the problem I've encountered, they ended up getting damaged at the end of the sortie in which I will repair them that takes 20mins each.

Is this going to be the normal routine? If I take the sparkle method? Is it okay to send them damaged?

>> No.11650360
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11650360

I want a Musashi

>> No.11650364

>>11647798
I was wondering this too. I'm using the same recipe and seem to be flooded with shit.

>> No.11650365

>>11650359
>they ended up getting damaged at the end of the sortie in which I will repair them that takes 20mins each.
Put a lvl1sub in there or 2 lvl1 DD. Do you need us to hold your hand while you sparkle at 1-1?

>> No.11650366

>>11650359
Take a sub along to bait the damage.

>> No.11650363

>>11650355
>An estimate based on what? Your personal feelings about the matter?
Pretty much, yeah. If you're the one autist who'd be fine playing Box Simulator, more power to you.

>> No.11650368

>>11650364
I got most of my 15.5 using that formula. It's been pretty good to me.

>> No.11650370

>>11650359
Ship damage doesn't affect the success rate of expeditions.

>> No.11650373

>>11650220
I want Haruna.

>> No.11650374

>>11650336
Still acceptable, since there's no danger to your daughters. You can sit back and try every other week indefinitely until you get the capital ship you want.

This event on the other hand not only takes a combined total of 12-30 hours, 25k-60k resources, 150-300 buckets and 0-4 damage controls to complete, but also wears you out mentally by giving you a choice between trying your luck at the boss with one or more heavily damaged girls and a safe return to base that takes its toll on your diminishing resources.

Even E5 is monstrous when you don't have both torpedo cruisers and a few good CAs at hand, and E4 is a whole different level of torture.

>> No.11650377

>>11650360
all or nothing, or wait for a few months and hope she becomes craftable at one point

>> No.11650378

>>11650373
They should just give the Kongou-class Kai2 an alternate sprite from Aoki no Hagane.

>> No.11650379

>>11650366
wouldn't a sub steal MVP?

>> No.11650384

>>11650374
On the other hand, once you've done the events, the E6 and E7 are not that stressful at all. It's a case of building up your resource pool and then roll and see how you'd do at a run.

Just replace dev material for buckets, and it works out to be a better deal than doing the dailies.

>> No.11650383
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11650383

Hey guys, I tried farming resources in 3-2 using Iku and I got an idea, what if whenever I got a resources I close the flash projector, will I still get the resources or is this a bannable exploit just like the Refresh/F5?

>> No.11650387

>>11650379
I don't really remember the details, but as long as the expedition crew is the flagship, it shouldn't be the problem. She should be able to get MVP after the first node.

>> No.11650388

>>11650379
yes, it needs to be under level 10. since i don't have any under level 10, i use 3 DDs, which last 3 runs of 1-1, and then i have 3 new DDs to replace them with when i scrap them.

there's still a chance of flagship taking damage, but there's not much else you can do about it.

>> No.11650389

>>11650374
As long as they dont change the game mechanic, there is no need for damage control as long as you retreat at red.
But I agree with you, playing 10hours straight because of regenerating health bar is both stressful and bad for your health.

>> No.11650393

>>11650383
That's the exact same shit as F5ing, just slower since you're manually reloading the flash app. And there's no reason to refresh in 3-2 either, it's just going to give your sub needless fatigue.

get gud faget

>> No.11650397

>>11650393
If you send sub through over 3-2, it's best that you carry the whole run through. The sparkle on your sub is worth the trip.

>> No.11650398

>>11650384
Well, capital ship crafting is likely for Yamato and Musashi. Agano and Yahagi, the main targets of E6 and E7 runs, are likely to be available from regular crafting after a couple of months, and I don't think they'll be any rarer than Kumano and Suzuya.

And frankly, after barely snatching victory from the jaws of defeat at E5 (which took three times the resources that I needed for E4), I for one don't think I want to go there again.

>> No.11650404

>>11650379
Even if they do, your flagships sparkle much faster than MVP ships do

Going on a sortie -15
Flagships gains +10 every battle
MVP gains +3 every battle

>> No.11650406

>>11650384
How much resources do you guys have to be able to burn through all the buckets?
I have about 500buckets when the event started, I now have 600buckets. My steel went the opposite direction though since I dont run 3-2 anymore.

>> No.11650407

>>11650404
it's the other way around

>> No.11650408

Do any of you guys use sanaechan/kcv with flash projector? Just wondering if either of them work.

>> No.11650409

>>11650406
My bucket count was around 460 at start of E4 and E5, I am now back to that level again. Took out 80 odd buckets to do E4 and E5.

>> No.11650412

>>11650409
I meant to say 80 for E4 and another 80 for E5.

>> No.11650414

>>11650408
For sanaechan, they do work. You just need to set the settings on Internet Explorer.

I have no idea how kancolleviewer is supposed to work in the first place, so I can't really answer you on that.

>> No.11650416

>>11650407
Whoops, my bad

>> No.11650417

>>11650414
Great, I'll go get sanaechan then.

>> No.11650427

>>11650417
>>11650414
How do you put Sanaechan to work? I opened it but it doesn't seem to be logging anything.

>> No.11650431
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11650431

>>11648211
And then this happens. Still no subs.

>> No.11650433

>>11650431
Clear E-1, get Iku, SS GET!

>> No.11650435

>>11650433
It was just an update. I already have Iku but no other subs after trying recipes and 3-3-A.

>> No.11650438

>>11650435
I'm still trying to clear 3-2, what setup did you use?

>> No.11650443

>>11650438
This one >>11646463

>> No.11650447

>>11650443
Equipped for double attacks or torpedo cutins?

>> No.11650446

>>11650431
It is a good thing.
Imuya is really a common drop compare to that Amazon.

>> No.11650448

>>11650446
I want to ravage that body.

>> No.11650451

>>11650447
Double attacks for everyone. You want to deal the most damage at night against the boss node only.

>> No.11650452

>>11650451
I'm sorry, I'm retarded and can't read properly apparently

>> No.11650455
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11650455

I can't even dream right?
For E4.

Resources 25k~

>> No.11650459

>>11650455
You can do it easy with that team. If you cant do it with the time remaining, you should just portal yourself to gensokyo.

>> No.11650460

>>11650455
levels don't mean shit. reverse the order of your fleet and do it. 25k is more than enough. those minisubs will probably never fire, though.

>> No.11650461

>>11650455
Assuming you have enough buckets you can clear it.

>> No.11650463

>>11650460
he's doing E4, the sanshiki wielders should be at the bottom.

>> No.11650468

>>11650455
Damn, I'm yet to craft one fucking turbine.

>> No.11650471

>>11650459
Just tested the waters.
At first node, my 3ships got critted to red in 2 try.

>>11650461
263

>>11650460
>minisubs will probably never fire, though.

I never made to the boss yet, but I think they will fire.I can't see the situation where I clean everything,boss+fortresses, in night.

>> No.11650477

>>11650455
sparkle your ships, use diagonal or double line to get to boss node, pray hard at RNG, and again, put the sanshikidan users at bottom like what everyone's suggested.

>> No.11650480

>>11650471
Dont use horizontal. That formation is useless against torpedo cutin.

>> No.11650489

>>11650468
I sank 20k for them in the beginning of the event.
Yes I have brain problems.

>>11650477
>>11650477
So line ahead or double line all the way?
I missed that from earlier threads, I guess.

>>11650477
Picture is ordered. 3shikidan's are at the bottom as you suggested.

>> No.11650496

From the night battle firepower perspective, shouldn't the torpedo monster be equipped with type-3 ammo and put at the bottom?

>> No.11650497

>>11650496
They can't equp it, dude.

>> No.11650499

>>11650496
CLT equips CL guns, not CA guns.

>> No.11650501 [DELETED] 

>>11650496
You means the torpedo cruiser ? Only CA/CAV and BB can equip type 3 ammo

>> No.11650504

>>11650497
>>11650499
Fuck me. I was about to head to E-4 as well thus the question. My apologies.

>> No.11650508

RNG goddess must truly hate me for giving me 3 AP shells but Type 3 AA

>> No.11650513

>>11650508
RNG hijinks. She likes to do that all the time.

>> No.11650530

Anyone have Musashi's damage sprites?

>> No.11650535

>>11650530
read the op

>> No.11650557
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11650557

>>11650496
I sent my 2nd expedition team to a PvP by mistake.

I was mad at first but now I'm okay with this.

>> No.11650560

Is it slow for anyone else?

>> No.11650565

>>11650560
Just you and your weakass Internet.

>> No.11650573

Fuck E2
Every fucking time I risk one of my shittier CAs by taking her into a battle red (haven't lost one yet) and yet every single time the only ships that my ships target are the two elite DDs that I DON'T want dying, while nobody does a single pip of damage to the boss. And then I get a shitty akatsuki destroyer drop to rub salt in the wound while my ships repair for hours.

>> No.11650576

>>11650573
>im mad cuz rng
Please.

>> No.11650580

>>11650576
this has happened three times in a row.
I don't care if all I do is 10 damage to the boss, or if I wipe out the entire enemy fleet but the boss.
But when I miss all of my shots except the elite DDs, which I instakill, it gets infuriating.

>> No.11650582

>>11650580
>But when I miss all of my shots except the elite DDs, which I instakill, it gets infuriating.
Maybe you should choose a shitty formation if you dont want to kill stuff. Protip, carrier damage doesnt get affected by formation.

>> No.11650583

>>11650573
Well, that happens. I always put my two CAs on the last slots as they normally do the biggest damage.

>> No.11650587

>>11650582
I don't run carriers because they're way too gimmicky for something that is almost entirely night battles. And if your carrier takes half damage on the way to the boss node? Time to abort back to base.

>> No.11650589

>>11650582
I could second this.

I was stuck at E2, then I just took 2CVL's and breezed through it.

>> No.11650637

So what are the chances that the UI update at 27th will make the game unplayable with the API?

>> No.11650640

>>11650637
low

>> No.11650645

>>11650637
What are they going to change there?

>> No.11650654

>>11650645
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Recent_Updates

>> No.11650660

>>11650654
Great.

>> No.11650666

>>11650660
got your back

>> No.11650711

>>11650654
So this will likely get rid of the lag and general terribleness of the modernization UI? Hopefully they'll update the other parts of the UI like the docks in the future to be more responsive.

>> No.11650726

>>11650711
No, they add a feature that you will have a 50% chance to spill the oil and not refill anyone.

>> No.11650727

>>11650711
well it still has to connect to the game server sometimes. i doubt a UI improvement will reduce lag very much. at best, it may allow you to skip the HQ screen refresh when you want to sortie.

hopefully they let you see your ship's HP between nodes, or fatigue numbers, or something else helpful.

>> No.11650728

>>11650726
unless you buy up to 4 security checks, each check reducing spill chance by 12,5%

>> No.11650730

>>11650726
my sides.

>> No.11650732

>>11650727
Well, I still don't know why they don't let you see the fatigue numbers. Sanaechan captures that info and shows you.

>> No.11650734

>>11650711
All I want is a better scrap ui.

>> No.11650736

>>11650734
Multiple selection please.

>> No.11650739

>>11650732
yeah i gave up trying to use sanaechan because i realized it would be too much trouble since i have IE 11.

>> No.11650764

>>11650734
This. It's the most painful part of playing right now.

>> No.11650772

What is the bare minimum level / combo one can attempt E-2 with? I checked the wiki, but general level and quality of equipment is not really mentioned.

>> No.11650776

>>11650772
You could probably do it with 5 lvl1 Destroyers and a Kitakami that's been remodeled once and maxed her torpedo and attack stats.

>> No.11650778

>>11650734
Scrap update: Multiple selection is now possible, but the shipdaughters now take turns detailing their life histories to this tune and expressing their regret at being found useless before the crushing sound:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqT2uOa1-d0

>> No.11650779

>>11650772
Did it with a 20-30 level of 4 DD equipped for double attack and 2x 40+ CA. Everyone sparkling.

>> No.11650781

>>11650776
Is it really that easy?
I'm torn between trying to push E-2 and maybe E-3, or save shit up for the next event.
I only started playing last week...

>> No.11650782

>>11650772
60+ and 6BB.

>> No.11650784

>>11650781
You won't be able to do E-3 anyway.

>> No.11650785

>>11650781
just try it a few times and see if it works, you'll have lots of time stacking resources after the event.

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11650791

>>11650784
Guessed that much. My fleet is still not strong enough

>> No.11650799

>>11650791
Problem is really resources and buckets.

>> No.11650806

>>11650791
god, how NEET are you to reach that in 1 week

>> No.11650809

So for E-5 did anyone use the upper route with the whirlpool? I keep getting my shit smacked and end up with day nodes on the preboss node.

>> No.11650810

>>11650806
I play it in the office as well.
I also managed to solo-sub 2-4 early, been farming 3-2-a since then.

>> No.11650811
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11650811

40k fuel, 60k steel, 46k ammo, 15k baux, 239 buckets

I have 2 CVLs at 60+ and a lvl 30 Soryuu I could use as support fleet. alternatively 5 maxed out DD
only got the Beaver yesterday so its not leveled, thus shimakaze.

The equip is the best I could get together. The crafting RNG goddess is horrible to me.

What are my chances at clearing E-4 with this?

>> No.11650817

>>11650811

With those resource counts you should be fine. If you have about a half of that left when done, do E-5 too.

Just prepare for a 10h+ marathon.

>> No.11650818

>>11650811
100%

>> No.11650819

>>11650811
put sanshikis on BBs. i think 10/90/90/60 is supposed to be the best. also that AA gun on shimakaze is pretty useless. give her a radar or turbine.

even if you don't do either of those things, you have more than enough resources. switch kongou and ooi if you have no sanshiki.

>> No.11650830

>>11650819
Tried 50 times today after seeing people say I should keep trying and used up my entire development material with 10/90/90/60 and Kongou as flagship.
Zero sanshiki and 3 AP ammo.

I don't have any radars shimakaze can use and I kinda need the turbine on Iku so she doesn't get reckt instantly. I can put a damecon on shimakaze but other than that I have absolutely nothing useful for her.

>> No.11650838

>>11650830

I found that raising it to 10/110/110/60 worked wonders for getting sanshikis. Got 3 in measly 10 crafts after 100 failed 10/90/90/30 and 10/90/90/60 crafts.

>> No.11650841

>>11650838
I mixed in a bunch of those with the 50 tries but didn't get any better results at all

>> No.11650846

>>11650838
I'll try with the dev material from the dailies that reset in a bit. but I have precisely zero hope RNG won't troll me to hell again

>> No.11650850

I don't know how many S ranks I lost in E5 just because my weaker girls decide to hit the boss instead of finishing off the princesses, fuck.

>> No.11650857
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11650857

>>11650850
Almost like it's random, right?
Unbelieveable!

>> No.11650863

For those of you who want to relive the trauma
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22323251

>> No.11650873

So how VITAL are things like radars?

>> No.11650876

>>11650857
dat nagato pic

>> No.11650880
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11650880

>>11650431
FINALLY. I can leave this hell now.

>> No.11650882

>>11650857
Fuck you Nagato, why can't you appear already.

>> No.11650892

>>11650880
she's supposed to be common apparently, what are the odds

>> No.11650893

>>11650873
Saw a chart where the only significant accuracy difference was with 3 Type 32 radars, where accuracyy jumped from something like 68% to 100%. Funnily enough two or one Type 32 radars barely had that kind of effect. This may imply that stacking radars may have a bigger impact than the actual accuracy boost. It also implies that your single radar and 15.5cm are basically almost 100% pure placebo.

Radars, however have another use which is to reduce whirlpools' effects.

>> No.11650898

>>11650892
80~ runs and 1 drop.

>> No.11650920

I really hope they fix the quest UI while they're at it, my flash keeps crashing from going to the quest page

>> No.11650921

I got myself a second Yukikaze, but I'm running out of dock space. Doushio?

>> No.11650924

>>11650921
scrap her scrap her scrap her scrap her scrap her, modernisation material

>> No.11650929

>>11650893
So if you're using radars, they need to be fleetwide? If I'm to understand the game correctly, guns in the 4th slot will never fire so you could have a radar on every 4 slot ship if you had 6 radars.

>> No.11650930

>>11650921
Ultimately there is no use for dupes that aren't submarines or otherwise fuel efficient to be used for expeditions.

>> No.11650940
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11650940

>>11650930
It hurts to get rid of them, I wish I could just trade them away.

>> No.11650944

>>11650940
how to showoff 101

>> No.11650956

>>11650838
I actually managed to craft 2 sanshiki with that recipe now ( and back to 0 development material )

Placed that on my Kongou and Hiei.

I'm >>11650811 btw
should I replace the dual purpose guns on my CLT with 15.5 yellows? I have enough. Or does the boss have too many planes during the day?

>> No.11650978

Well that's the last time I actually go into a node I don't want instead of refreshing.

>> No.11650997

>>11650920
Are you using a VPN? Sometimes the game crashes because of it. Just choose another one.

>> No.11651000

Is it wrong for me to wish that this event never ends? I enjoy reading the casualty reports these past few weeks.

>> No.11651013

>>11651000
They'll soon run out of Japanese ships. What happens then, will they let the fad die out or start using foreign WW2 era ships?

>> No.11651016

>>11651000
Christmas will be more fun if they make that event hard too.

>> No.11651017

>>11651013
infinite remodels

>> No.11651018

>>11651013
>will they let the fad die out
Yeah, sure

>> No.11651022

>>11651013
The cashcow is too fat to let them do that. They'll likely start doing concept ships like WoT before gaijin ships.

>> No.11651031

>>11651022
>>11651013
would they really piss off someone if they actually start doing this? Gaijin ships I mean

>> No.11651058

>>11651031
I'm sure they could easily get away with German ships.
Bismarck when?

>> No.11651067

>>11651058
I'm curious how they're going to incorporate USN ships once they cross that bridge. Will they basically make the wo-class playable or make them from the ground up and destroy their own navy bases. Oh, the potential political powderkegs if it ever comes to this.

>> No.11651073

>>11651067
Politics in a game about cute shipgirls?

>> No.11651077

>>11651058
can I have a ship shouting SIEG HEIL when she attacks now?
how about FÜR DAS VATERLAND!
or HEIL HITLER!

>> No.11651078

>>11651067
No one would care if other nations end up represented.
It's not like Zynkyoku is playing this game.

>> No.11651083

>>11651077
I wonder who's gonna be the CV for that

>> No.11651099

>>11651083
I don't know about nazi paroles but if we get more russian ships THIS lady needs to voice a russian BB
http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=407

>> No.11651140

Did Italy's navy do anything during WWII or just like Russia's became wholly irrelevant?

>> No.11651143

>>11651099
Old and ugly.
Would not refuel her ships.

>> No.11651153

>>11651143
she'd order you to refuel the ships and you would fucking shrivel up before her glorious voice and do as you're told.
you do not want to piss off Balalaika.

>> No.11651156

>>11651153
No I wouldn't.
I don't listen to ugly hags.

>> No.11651163

>>11651156
thats what you said now. But if a BB with cold eyes commands you to refuel everyone you will obey like all the other sheep

>> No.11651165

>>11651163
Not if she had the voice of an old grandma.
I'd only listen to someone like Kongo since she has the voice of an angel.

>> No.11651181

It was my first event, and I used about 250 buckets, and cleared E-1, E-2. E-3. Learned a lot (like continue with orange), or that levels make a huge difference (It always went terrible first, then as levels increased I started to clear nodes).

>> No.11651183

>>11651181
Were most of those buckets used on E-4?
Because I'm thinking about doing E-3 but if you really need that many buckets for that, I might as well give up.

>> No.11651186

>>11651183
don't need that many. I used 11 buckets on e-3.

>> No.11651187

>>11651183
I used like 50 buckets on clearing E-3, no idea how he used up 250 on E-1 to E-3 unless he also tried farming E-3

>> No.11651193

>>11651186
>>11651187
What were your fleets for E3?

>> No.11651198

>>11651186
>>11651187
Oh alright.
I still don't think I have enough buckets for that. I ended using 20 buckets of E-2 just because I was impaitent.

>> No.11651201

>>11651193
CL, BB, CA, CVL, 2CV

levels between 40 and 70 when I cleared it

>> No.11651206

>>11651193
2x CA 1x BB 1x BBV 1x CVL 1x CV
got sent bottom 6 times, top 3 times, dead end once. top route is far more annoying since it has a lot of carriers and an extra node. I never had to retreat on bottom but had to retreat twice on the top route due to a crit.

Levels between 35-45. Used 1 green and 3 blue planes on carriers, everyone else had 1 12.7cm high angle gun for intercept.

>> No.11651211

Going through D on E-5 was going so well for me for awhile but I keep getting shit on. But somehow it still feels less of a hose than doing I and E.

>> No.11651237

How far would you have gotten if you didn't rely on any wikis or guides?

>> No.11651241

>>11651237
Wouldn't have even gotten into the game.

>> No.11651243
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11651243

Are planes stats dependant to the aircraft carrier level?
For some reason, my Kaga kai lvl51 has 85 despite it is supposed to be 98 (heck, it is even lower than non kai, 93).

OTOH, my Akagi lv1 that I got by crafting does have 73 planes, which match the wiki page...

what did I do wrong?

>> No.11651244

>>11651237
3-2

>> No.11651246

>>11651243
your planes are not refueled right now

>> No.11651249

>>11651243
why don't you resupply her?

>> No.11651250

>>11651246
*sigh* I'm an idiot. Thanks for the answer.

>> No.11651277

>>11651237
E4. Still haven't cleared 3-2, so that doesn't count.

To give you a sense of how much I rely on guides: I spent >15k resources on E3 because I decided to ram into it with a BB/CVL fleet until it yielded. Except instead of the BBVs that I had at high levels, I decided to use my weaker Kongo-class BBs because the devs had said that ship speed would be important and I figured that meant E3 too.

The upside to that debacle was that E4 was only marginally more frustrating than E3.

>> No.11651283

How do I get more damage control?
Apart from the shop

>> No.11651291

>>11651283
There are 4-5 non-repeatable quests that give them. Events usually have a map that rewards pay-only items, like the E3 of this event. If something goes terribly wrong during an event, you may get one as compensation.

That's it.

>> No.11651292

>>11651283
one-time only quests
not farmable
hate your money

>> No.11651318

All these S ranks and they're just giving me silvers and commons. I grow weary of life.

>> No.11651324

Second Nagato from crafting... No Mutsu yet. Fuck RNG

>> No.11651323

>>11651318
Soon the pain will be over, soon.

>> No.11651331

>>11651324
I have the exact opposite.

>> No.11651335

>>11651331
No Nagato club member reporting.

>> No.11651341

>>11651335
Same here, reporting in for duty.

>> No.11651342

Does bringing a sub to E-2 help?
I'm starting to get fed up with random cut-in crits

>> No.11651397

>>11651335
あらあら

>> No.11651401

>>11651342
Until node before boss.

>> No.11651399

>>11651342
try and see it for urself, i feel pity for the subs though


how do u guys farm 2-2,2-3? using sub all the way?

>> No.11651460

According to futaba, you don't need to refuel support expeditions. Just need to refill their ammo.

>> No.11651467

>>11651460
As in you don't need to refuel until it's completely empty.

>> No.11651490
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11651490

This is the third fucking time.

>> No.11651492

Looks like Shinano is semi-confirmed for mid-December. Are you ready to sink your 0 luck carrier within a week of getting her?

>> No.11651493
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11651493

This little shits are doing this to me every time.

>> No.11651540

>>11651490
Add a battleship to your fleet.

>> No.11651582

>>11651540
wont help him, as any of those will auto-kill the boss with double attack if they actually attack it instead of the escorts.

>> No.11651585

Is 6 destroyers really the 100% only way to get to boss on 3-2? I only have two or three that are of a decent level.

>> No.11651588

>>11651585
Nope. As long as your fleet is nothing but destroyers you'll be able to go the boss.

>> No.11651589

>>11651585
Only destroyers allowed. Get them to at least level 20, remodel and modernization. Sparkle and go.

>> No.11651626

The wiki says 2DD 2CL 2CA for 5-3.

I reckon it is just a recommendation and not a 100% boss node formation, right?

>> No.11651628

Yes! Finally cleared E-1 and got my I-19 for 2-4 way ahead of schedule!

On another note, hey fellow admirals, is there a list of best ship classes for each category of ships?

>> No.11651631

>>11651628
Yeah, on the Wiki.

>> No.11651635

>>11651628
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Ship
Click a ship type

>> No.11651633

>>11651628
>subs for 2-4
Do it the manly way and tear through them with sheer power.

>> No.11651666

Why does Isuzu get a 2nd remodel?
Also what's with the art style on most of the Nagara-class light cruisers? It's pretty shitty, but Yura, a Nagara-class, has a different artstyle.

>> No.11651674

>>11651666
Depends on the artist.

>> No.11651675

>>11651666
At least it's not Chikuma levels.

>> No.11651679

>>11651675
I honestly think Nagara (and Natori) look worse than Chikuma. Isuzu is almost decent, I guess.

>> No.11651686

>>11651679
Inde- I mean, Isuzu looks great, what are you talking about? Tama too. But Chikuma gives a bigger alien feeling than the others.

>> No.11651698

ZUN should illustrate a ship.
She'd look right at home.

>> No.11651701

Man, the compass really likes to piss me off.
I just had a flawless E-2 run, S ranks without a single scratch on my ship, optimistic as fuck for the boss run, and it redirects me to that shitty northern compound.

>> No.11651738

>>11651342
I did mine with Goya as flagship all the way. It helped a bit, although getting the boss at the end depends a lot on her one unreliable attack.

>> No.11651747

>>11651701
Welcome to Kancolle.

>> No.11651753

>>11651747
It's okay because I refreshed out of the compound battle and the next run was almost as smooth with an S rank on the boss battle. Almost there.

>> No.11651765

>>11651738
I ran a sub as well, and the weak attack just means you're more likely to trigger day battle. I actually brought a CVL for the final kill, and it worked wonders.

>> No.11651777
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11651777

This is my third Hiyou in a row.

From an S.

Why.

>> No.11651782
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11651782

Why is Kancolle porn so good?

>> No.11651789

>>11651782
I want to puff puff with Atago

>> No.11651792

>>11651782
Little boys can't be admirals. That doesn't make sense.

>> No.11651813

>>11651792
Ships cannot be personified as girls. That doesn't make sense.

>>11651782
You're talking about a game of which their character designs revolves around how many fetishes they can cram into one character. We are going into Tetsuya Nomura's territory soon.

>> No.11651819

>>11643409
>http://www51.atpages.jp/kancollev/
Anyone got a more reliable room viewer?

>> No.11651827

There's already 1.250+ million people playing the game, jesus christ.

>> No.11651828

I failed E4 twice. I attempted (and managed to deplete the boss' HP bar) during the past week and my resources ran dry. I had a glimmer of hope when the event was extended, but the same thing happened to me yesterday.
Guess I'll wait for I8 to be craftable.

>> No.11651849

>>11651813
I have yet to see a ship that's full on belts and zippers so no.

>> No.11651856

I just completely got shit on by E-5 today 20k+ of everything in the hole, 150 buckets, even a few goddesses from where I got desperate, still no sink.

>> No.11651873

>>11651738
I did the whole of E2 with a sub flagship.
Didnt even need to waste any bucket and resources. It is either sub retreat or easy boss win. Need a few run to off the boss for good though. It was the map where I found out that BB is shit at night combat.

>> No.11651885

Am I the only one not able to log in right now?

>> No.11651891

Is there a pack containing all of the current voice files? Otherwise I'm just going to download them myself and upload it.

>> No.11651898

>>11650044
Even though... even though I had given up on E-4 already! I didn't save resources before the event and didn't seriously stockpile expeditions, so I thought, if I make E-3, it's fine like this... but now I feel like I don't want to lose.

I can probably make 16k all with twelve hours to spare, so everybody will be working full-time till then.

>> No.11651908

Anyone else getting C, D ranks on E-7 even with support? It's a real shit feel when I finally make it to the boss only to lose.

>> No.11651922

>>11651908
What's your composition and support?

>> No.11651923

>>11651908
I just made it to the boss with four ships in orange and pulled off an S. But it feels like every time I get there in full green I get a B at best. Too many dicerolls culminating in a big fuck you when my S rank drops a common ship anyway.

>> No.11651924

>>11651908
Why do you not go into night battle?
It is not like your ships will sink. I am more mad with my battleshits targeting ironbottom-chan dealing pathetic 10damage leaving ktkm to target the escorts and getting A rank.

>> No.11652027

Why is Kinugasa so hard to get?
I've tried grinding every single stage that lists her on the wiki.

>> No.11652032

>>11652027
Indeed. I got one only after one week of usual farming.

>> No.11652042

>>11652027
All of the 101-150 ships are hard to get, they were slowly added after the base game came out to increase interest, so they've been hard to find because of it.

>> No.11652043

>>11652027
The RNG is designed to go into supreme sadist mode when you're trying to get a specific ship.

>> No.11652051

>>11652043
I don't believe in the occult.

>> No.11652103

>>11651908
I'm doing the middle route, but I can't manage to get an S rank. I get like A rank after A rank, but no S rank, primarily because the boss always gets everyone to orange. Makes me wonder if I should go north. Currently using 2 CLTs, 1 BB, 2DDs and 1 CA.

>> No.11652118

>>11652043
Fortune favours the bold

>> No.11652127

>>11652103
I've got the impression you get hit harder when you're low on fuel, tried a few times and went back to doing the north route.

>> No.11652132

>>11652127
Or rather you just get hit. It's not a bad route. But it's a choice between S-ranks or A-ranks. Kind of wish they'd change the ammo and fuel formulas. That shit is so brutal no matter how I look at it.

>> No.11652140

>>11652103
Same here.
I tried the same formation with 2DD, too weak during the shelling phase and not enough surviving non red ship during night phase.

>> No.11652144

So, uh, is there any way to NOT get one ship guaranteed-nuked on E-1 subspam node? I can do the rest of it just fine with my fleet (started day before yesterday, running a lvl10-15ish BB/CV/CVL and some CAs fleet), but I don't have any sonar/depth charges, and my lvl10ish DDs don't do more than 1-3 damage to them. More importantly, not even Line Abreast seems to give them anything below 100% accuracy and armor doesn't seem to matter... do I just hope that I get sent NE instead of E, or am I missing something?

>> No.11652159

>>11652144
Make an offering and pray to the RNG goddess to not send you to the sub node. I only went there once when I cleared E-1

Otherwise, just bring more destroyers and light cruisers and use line abreast maybe you expensive BB/CV only user

>> No.11652162

>>11652144
I did it without any anti-sub item. Just put an Isuzu there or something.

>> No.11652169

>>11652144
You dont have to kill the subs.
Just avoid the night battle and move on anon.

>> No.11652181

Oh wow. Just wasted all that fuel and ammo on a full BB team because the guy swapped his level 76 Yukikaze for a level 3 Hatsukaze at literally the last second. It seems that the game will update the PvP fleet even after you've already clicked the sortie button.

>> No.11652190

>>11651922
2CLT/2CA/2 Kongou
>>11651924
I always go night battle but my ships keep getting knocked down into red during the day shelling phase.

>> No.11652194

>>11651908
>>11652190
I think they made E-5 boss harder or something, or is that my imagination?

>> No.11652199

>>11652181
how do you think I felt when I saw a dude left only like a lvl8 Junyou and a few destroyers and I was like "oh hey, free sparkle" and when I battled out came like Kongou K2 and shit, and because his flagship was low level I got like shit amount of exp for what it's worth.

I feel like trolling people by doing that, screw being a nice guy

>> No.11652200

>>11652194
It's all RNG. I've actually had significantly better runs now after Yahagi was released. Almost always make it to the boss with mostly everyone intact and my support fleet sometimes even offs an armored princess all by themselves.

>> No.11652204

>>11652159
I mostly use CAs actually, at least going by stat caps they seem like much more efficient BBs, but since I got 3 CV/CVLs today I found that putting 1-2 of them in a fleet reallllly helps with prebattle damage. I have 2k fuel/steel so I'm not super worried about their cost so much as being able to get past that node reliably.

>>11652162
Don't have any good antisub. Best I have is a lvl 1 Yura and the event is only on for one more day. Is it worth training her up real quick?

>>11652169
That's not the problem. The problem is that even if I get lucky and there's only one sub-chan, and I'm using Line Abreast formation, she's still GUARANTEED to hit 1 of my people for enough to put them into yellow at best, usually more like orange-red, and when she constantly hits a CVL or CA down to red I can't really -not- retreat. NO SACRIFICES.

Is it safe to push on in yellow health? What about when they're half-stripped in orange? Yeah yeah I read the wiki and have been following these topics on /jp/ and /a/ for like a week now, but outside of anecdotal evidence each way I haven't seen much confirmation on that.

>> No.11652207

>>11652200
I didn't have to use support expeditions to kill the boss a week ago and now even with them I don't get S rank. I guess RNG hates me.

>> No.11652214

>>11652204
Why are you doubting /jp/? Just click forward already.
Why would we lie to you?
It is not like we will gain any pleasure from lying to you.

>> No.11652220

>>11652204
Myself and many others have completed E-7 (well, not really, I'm still missing Agano) pushing on with orange ships. I've even entered night battle with red ships on some occasions and cut-ins did like 6 damage to them.

>> No.11652219

>>11652200
It is not RNG. It is level.
My E5 run go so well now that I can make it to the boss consistently with my whole fleet in green health. It wasn't that easy when I did E5 2weeks ago.

>> No.11652227

So we'll have barely a month until the next event? no time to relax.

>> No.11652230

>>11652204
jebus yes it's safe to push on in yellow and orange health, as long as it's not red they won't sink.

>> No.11652224

>>11652219
I doubt it. I'm using the same fleet but they've only increased by about ten or so levels since I completed E-5.

>> No.11652236

>>11652219
I'm using the exact fleet that I used for E-5 and I've never gotten a C/D at the boss and now I'm getting a loss at the boss half the time.

>> No.11652244

Alright, thanks folks. One other question, about ship order: does it actually matter outside of flagship stuff/that one formation that reduces the chance of enemies targeting the flagship? If I have Hiei in slot 1 vs slot 3 or slot 6, will she be targeted more in one of them or tend to target enemies more in another? I've seen some talk about where KTKM/Ooi are placed being important for their targeting or something but is that something to worry about with other ships?

>> No.11652247

>>11652204
I'm going to be straightforward here. The topic of sinking at orange tends to get the idiots here very excited. The general consensus is that it is indeed safe, but there have been several reports of people losing ships at orange. Outside of simply dismissing these reports as trolling, people have come up with several theories on why this could happen, but generally you will be safe progressing at orange. Ultimately it's your decision to make. Evaluate what you have hard and what you have seen and draw a conclusion. Don't come bitching to us if you actually do end up losing a ship, though.

>> No.11652251

>>11649939
What's the source for this chart?

>> No.11652255

>>11652244
1) Flagship is like king, your other ship will take hits for the flagship
2) Likewise for enemy flagship, your ship target the enemy flagship, scrubs cockblocked you and you fail to kill the enemy flagship
3) For the above reason, people put kitaooi on the bottom since they are sort of like finisher and so that they can 1shot the enemy flagship without any escorts left

>> No.11652257

Yes, if you want your heavy hitters to be able to be killing the enemy flagship because ships tend to kill off grunts first and all the cover supports from them.

Usually only for night battles, but you place them in slot 6 because they'll go last and most probably everyone but the enemy flagship is dead by then.

>> No.11652261

I feel so diabolical by placing my stronger ships in slot 3 to 6 and placing lvl1 ships in slot 1 and 2 before going offline

>> No.11652266

>>11652244
Night battle fires in top to bottom order. Considering that the enemy boss flagship will have the highest HP and your ships may occasionally miss or fail to critical, the lower a ship is on the order the fewer targets she will have, and often the last target will include the enemy flagship. Thus, people place their big hitters last. This will usually be Ooi and KTKM.

It should be noted that on later maps like E4 and E5, you might not even want to bother using them unless you have them at least at Kai 2. Having the three equipment slots is vital.

>> No.11652267

>>11652261
You know they can see your entire fleet before you battle, right? You're not fooling anyone, you're just being a dick.

I hope your car flips while you're driving on the highway.

>> No.11652277

>>11652267
It's for the admirals desperate to clear the daily quest, I've had enough of only leaving two of my highest level shipgirls whenever I go offline to come back and see nothing-but-sub fleets as pvp opponents

>> No.11652281

>>11652277
In all honestly, they're probably not doing it to troll you but just because they're running sub fleets on 2-3 and 3-2 constantly. I pretty much spend 90% of my time doing just that. Gotta grind resources for E-7.

>> No.11652283

>>11652277
Why are you such a dick?
Nobody is bad enough to leave 4subs fleet except you. They are busy world2 boss daily.

>> No.11652288

>>11652281
I guess that's a valid point, I'll do this only every time I encounter another nothing-but-sub fleet then

>>11652283
I don't leave 4 sub fleets, I leave only my two highest level with no equipment for a pretty long period of time, only to meet dicks that actually do leave 4 sub fleets. That's right I even took the time to take off the equipments on my two highest level shipgirls

I used to be nice, until I met nothing-but-sub admirals.

One-time thing though I guess, since the other guy had a valid point

>> No.11652289

>>11652277
I fucking love sub fleets, they're good for leveling my mid level DD.

>> No.11652293

>>11652288
>That's right I even took the time to take off the equipments on my two highest level shipgirls

That's some dedication to helping your fellow admirals. Go back to this instead of being a jerk. I would do the same thing if the equipment screen didn't consistently lag like a motherfucker. I really hope the interface update improves this.

>> No.11652296

>>11652288
They should bring back formation to PvP. The default vertical really favor those subs fleets.

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>>11651782

>> No.11652311

>>11652306
>你是雄型的姬型
Oh god why did I laugh.

>> No.11652383
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>>11652306

>> No.11652410

>>11652383
GOOD END

Peace through pleasurable dickings.

>> No.11652422

>>11652383
I love the last panel of that one. The whole page really, but especially in that last one all of the Abyss fleetgirls just look happy, and the reaction of the previous fleet is amusing - the Kaguard is about to snap.

That whole thing was a FANTASTIC read though, english translation where.

>> No.11652431
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11652431

Will she ever get a Kai 2?

>> No.11652436

>>11652383
>>11652422
Who is bottom left girl with white shirt? Doesnt look like Yuubari shirt at all.

>> No.11652476

>>11652436
Kasumi, I think

>> No.11652478

>>11652431
That last picture. It's perfect. It's the perfect monkey kai form for Haruna.

>> No.11652497

>>11652422
No jap raw yet
>>11652383
Wo-class is definitely the cutest among the abyssal fleet

>> No.11652531
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11652531

Brilliant.

>> No.11652554

>>11652531
Thank you Japan.

>> No.11652590

So how's it going Yahagi hunting? I'm not sure if I should sparkle anymore or not. I like sparkles and all, but it really wears on your resources sparkling BBs. And then there's the fact of T-disadvantage. It happens so many god damn times.

>> No.11652602

>>11652590
Despair, all day. Everyday.

>> No.11652604

>>11652590
I seem to have much greater success with more sparkling ships. I recommend sparkling at least your non-BBs to save resources

>> No.11652605

>>11652590

I can't get Yahagi because I haven't even started E-5 yet ;_;

I can't wait to try crafting a Holo Light Cruiser in the future.

>> No.11652610

>>11652590
Pure suffering. My ammo count is low and all I have from it all is silver carrier drops.

And it's all for a bloody light cruiser that I'll never use.

>> No.11652615

>>11652590
You're not going to get an S Rank without sparkling.

>> No.11652616

>>11652590
I think I've lost all the built up luck I've had finding a Nagato. The worst part is that I already had one.

>> No.11652619

>>11652615
I know. But you can't get an S-rank anyways if you get T-disadvantage or sent north. Going the middle route is safer, but at the same time you get fucking murdered at the boss node and do no damage at the night battle anyways. It's a catch 22.

>> No.11652625

>>11652590
Just sparkles CLT and DD.
The BB/CA are just there to make up the numbers.

>> No.11652629

>>11652619
A chance at getting an S Rank is better than no S Rank at all, so sparkling is still the way to go. You just have to accept that it's going to be a real bitch to grind. At least you're competing against a regenerating life bar anymore.

>> No.11652633

I'm retrying E5 for the third time, and got two error girls and two north easts on my first four tries.

I know it's just the beginning, but it's very frustrating, considering I'm sparkling them to max moral each time and I've done 60 runs last week without success, even after bringing the boss into the last two bars.

>> No.11652641

>>11652633
Perhaps you need to recheck your composition and the way you do the run.
There is no way E5 is supposed to be that difficult.

>> No.11652655

>>11652641
I know. I asked for suggestions over on wiki, and I'm trying to go the middle route now.

My first few runs of E5 were flawless, and I kept the same fleet so I doubt that it's my fleet problem. In any case, it's Kongou, Haruna, Maya, Shigure, and the torpedo sisters. Considering switching Haruna to Yukikaze now.

>> No.11652659

Sparkling takes so much time that I can thank it for not having run out of resources yet.

>> No.11652689

>>11652629
I guess. There's probably something with my weapon load out as well. For the CLTs, I went with 10cm and 15.5cm with mini subs, DDs double green guns with radar, BBs 46 cm, radar and type 3.

>> No.11652711

So bit of a question from a newbie admiral.

Just lost my first ship due to going into a node I wasn't prepared for.

Looking through the thread, I've heard mention of a refresh trick where you seem to be able to reset the map and avoid going into the node. Is this true?

I normally wouldn't ask, just that I'm not seeing it mentioned anywhere on the wikia or translated sources.

>> No.11652720
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Poor dude.

>> No.11652732

>>11652720
How did he loose 25k bauxite?

>> No.11652737

>>11652732
From the looks of it he grinded E-3 for the crane sisters.

>> No.11652739

>>11652711
No, you can't avoid battle that you've entered.
>>11652732
Support fleet?

>> No.11652740

>>11652720
But he got a yahagi, shoukaku, zuihou and tons of rare destroyers.

>> No.11652747

>>11652720
At least he got her.
121 sortie later still nothing here.

>> No.11652749 [DELETED] 

>>11652711
Video evidence: >11642924

>> No.11652757

>>11652711
Video evidence: >>11642924

>> No.11652756

>>11652747
I have at least 24 furutakas already just from my E-3 runs today. Currently hitting about 78 runs.

>> No.11652761

>>11652756
80 runs and no Shokaku either.

>> No.11652776

>>11652756
>>11652761
2shoukaku from E3
3kumano from E5
No Agano
No Zuikaku
No Nagato
I really dont want to believe in the occult but fuck desire sensor is strong in this game.

>> No.11652788

>>11652776
They also seem to have a rare ship you already have detector which would increase the drop rate of said ship to ridiculous levels.

>> No.11652785
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How to dodge this?

>> No.11652790

>>11652776
It knows what you want and makes it so much harder to drop. RNG the best troll.

>> No.11652791

>>11652785
Double line. Or if you believe that formations doesn't matter at night, praying might help.

>> No.11652792

2 more days left. Everyone start panicking!

>> No.11652794

>>11652720
He got everything he wanted, who cares how many resources he had to lose.

On the other hand, how the hell is this guy 20 levels ahead of me and still under me in rank? I thought you rank was directly tied to level.

>> No.11652803

>>11652792
I just want the event to end already, my hopes getting crushed every run is suffering.

>> No.11652804

>>11652794
He might have only been resource farming for this month, which means he probably didn't run maps for boss node to farm points. E-5 gives quite a lot, but E1 to 4's points are fucking pathetic. That and he might be on the first 4 servers.

>> No.11652826

>>11652788
I swear this exists. It'll take forever to get some rare ship, but as soon as you get the first one you see them drop left and right.

>> No.11652823

>>11652804
So your officer ranking is based on your server ranking, rather than just your total teitoku experience? I had no idea.

>> No.11652839

E5 is always aiming the last slot which is KTKM. I have to forgo midget sub for dmg con. I am not sure with you guys but midget sub doesnt do much to the 2nd and 3rd enemy ship.

>> No.11652844

>>11652826
Yeah, um, if you use the English Wikia, I think there's a page with information on admiral ranking under the combat section.

There's also a section if you use wikiwiki.jp

>> No.11652845

>>11652794
It depends on which server you're in.
Rank is tied to exps you gain, not level.
Population also matters. It has been said around top 8% players are ranked as 元帥(Marshal).
I'm in 3rd server, you need at least 323 戦果 points and ranked as 432th to be Marshal on latest ranking.

>> No.11652847

>>11652839
>dmg con
Why would you need it when you never advance to a new node with red ships?

>> No.11652852

>>11652839
If your torp cruiser is in red, you're not going to kill the boss in the first place. Damecon is a waste of slot on them.

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The adventures of Kitakami-sama slapping bitches continues!

>> No.11652856

>>11652845
Old server population is roughly only 5-6k? That's quite low. I'm in Rabaul and I swear I've reached around 18k rank at all-time low.

>> No.11652859

>>11652856
Rank 400 something here

>> No.11652861

>>11652847
>>11652852
What I mean is that I am retreating when either CLTs are in the red before the night battle. I thought its not safe to advance? My CLTs were green before the boss node.

>> No.11652863

>>11652861
It's safe.

>> No.11652866

>>11652861
Still doubting /jp/?
Back to wiki and facebook you go

>> No.11652870

>>11652856
8% is old number.
Not sure what about now.

>> No.11652869

>>11652861
Many people swear by the fact that it is safe to go into night at red. There have been instances of people claiming to lose ships by going into night, so it's at your discretion. But I pushed on.

On the other hand, if both CLTs are red you're probably not going to kill the boss anyway. Don't bother.

>>11652866
Trusting /jp/? I'd sooner trust moot.

>> No.11652874

>>11652863
>>11652866
If your ships have taken heavy damage, you may instead wish to withdraw with the button on the left.

http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:_How_to_Play

>> No.11652875

>>11652870
Too bad you can't view the total number of players in your server.

>> No.11652876

>>11652869
>There have been instances of people claiming to lose ships by going into night
You are basically trusting random trolls with zero proof over /jp/. I wonder where your true allegiance lie at. I will never believe that it is possible for red ships to sink at night until I see conclusive video proof.

>> No.11652877

>>11652844
Did you quote the wrong person? I wasn't talking about admiral ranking at all.

>> No.11652878

>>11652845
>>11652856
>>11652875
Self correction.

Forget 8%. It was 0.8%.

http://kancolle.doorblog.jp/archives/31229078.html

>> No.11652881

>>11652876
That's great, keep your "my elite community" bullshit on facebook or tumblr, please. Join a forum if you want a faggot hugbox community. /jp/ is not a hive mind.

>> No.11652883

>>11652878
That's much more believable. So I guess each server population is more or less 80-100k.

I wonder though why Sasebo server population is only 55k.

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>>11652792
E4 bar status [x]Full

>> No.11652885 [DELETED] 

>>11652881
everyone is rushing to farm rare ships, and I'm just hoping I can get the Bagato model before it's removed

>> No.11652890

>>11652885

>Bagato model

Is that the prototype model of the Nagato class ships?

>> No.11652888

everyone is rushing to farm rare ships from the event and I'm just hoping I can get the Bagato model furniture before it's removed, possibly unlikely unless I have insane luck with my expeds

>> No.11652889

>>11652881
He never implied anything about that, way to go with your fantasies. Do you also happen to always fantasize that you're an admiral commanding a fleet of beautiful girls?

>> No.11652893

>>11652881
/jp/ provided proof and evidence.
What has all these trolls with empty claims provide besides MY SHIP SANK BAWWW?
This isnt about "elite community"
This is about being paranoid and being gullible as fuck.

>> No.11652894

>>11652888
>>11652885
Hello friend, why don't you get the fuck back to the Facebook or the Wiki community?

>> No.11652896

>>11652894
Ladies first

>> No.11652902

>>11652890
It's ugly Nagato that she has to put a bag over her face.

>> No.11652909

>>11652893
While we're on this topic, I'm still waiting for that anon to provide indisputable video evidence that ships can sink at moderate damage.

We've already provided evidences that they can't, so it's your turn now.

>> No.11652905

>>11652902

That sounds pretty moe. I would nickname her Paperbag-chan and make her my secretary.

>> No.11652906

>>11652890
There should be a feature that allows ships to be given nicknames that are visible through pvp. Then we can have stupid names like 'Baguette' the Nagato.

>> No.11652915

>>11652889
Oh please, "I wonder where your true allegiance lies" is some dumb bullshit that sounds like you've been watching too much Game of Thrones.

>>11652893
Where was /jp/'s proof? A video on nico? Surely one video can make up for actual statistics, right! By comparison, the people on Futaba actually compiled numbers to determine the drop rates for E-5's boss node. That's actual proof. A link to a video is hardly conclusive. You really should avoid losing your shit over the mere mention that other people have reported something different from your experiences. No one said, "You're definitely going to sink if you go into night red!", just that people had reported otherwise. Stop taking it like a personal attack.

A personal attack would be calling you a melodramatic bitch for giving a shit over something so petty.

>> No.11652917

>>11652866
Where is is stated in the wiki?

>> No.11652918

So flagships can't sink, does this still apply even if the fleet consists of only them? If so grinding 1-1 might be an easy, if horribly resource inefficient way for me to to level my ships at low levels.

>> No.11652923
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I'm sick of this happening every single time I reach the damn boss. The support fleet even took out 2 of the trash mobs and all I got was a D rank and a lot of steel wasted on repairs.

I know I've asked before but the deadline for the event is fast approaching and I'm shitting in my pants just trying to get Yahagi.

>> No.11652924

>>11652915
You seem to have forgotten that it's a link to one of the many videos on nicodouga.

Do you really want us to paste every single fucking link here? I really can't believe how ignorant and retarded people are nowadays.

>> No.11652925

Is it retard time again?

>> No.11652929

>>11652918
Yes, it still applies even if the fleet consists of only them.

>> No.11652928

>>11652925
Ever since the start of August.

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>>11652925
Probably, better post drop lists before the thread gets pruned.

>> No.11652934

>>11652929
Thank you. Time to go waste a bunch of fuel and ammo on my new Yukikaze.

>> No.11652936

>>11652923
Wow I don't remember getting wrecked that badly with my slightly lower lvl ships. Do you sparkle them?

>> No.11652937

>>11652917
He's referring to the community, not the wiki itself.

>> No.11652938

>>11652932
Asian?

>> No.11652939

>>11652924
I've seen those videos. wikiwiki still claims that there's conclusive evidence to account for people who claim to be losing ships, and I'm definitely more inclined to trust them over a single whiny faggot on /jp/.

Go ahead and post your links though, you seem autistic enough to do it.

>> No.11652940

>>11652928
Nah, time to time people actually talk about things that make sense.

Like which CV a best mother, or which one of the following is more cute?(Zuikaku/Ryuujo)

Also 10th page

>> No.11652942

>>11652940
Zuikaku is cuter

>> No.11652944

>>11652936
For that run I did, not a high value sparkle though. Only around 50+ morale.

>> No.11652946

>>11652917
If you trust the wiki, then you retreat and put on damage control. I dont.
I did enough sortie to realize that nothing will happen even when I push through to night battle with red.
Do you want me to record all my E7 runs with red ships to proof to you that they wont sink?

>> No.11652947

>>11652939
Here we go again, another assumption that makes you look like a total retard.

wikiwiki did not claim there's conclusive evidence for that. They merely state it is still a possibility since there is no way to completely rule it out and they do not want to take responsibility for any misinformed persons. It's just like your disclaimers. Otherwise, you'd see at least one footage of it with the huge amount of people trying to test it.

Go ahead and quote me every portion that has them claiming there's conclusive evidence, you seem autistic enough to do it.

>> No.11652950

>>11652942
And then there is this faggot

RJ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Zuikaku>*

Pettanko a best

>> No.11652948

>>11652940
I'm not interested in dumb waifu wars.

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>>11652940
Houshou is undoubtedly best mother. I want to protect that smile.

And, Zuihou is the cutest, followed by Shoukaku.

>> No.11652952

>>11652940
wich kanmusu wud u fug

>> No.11652956

>>11652952
I would fug a wo

>> No.11652957

>>11652950
Too bad she's ugly.

>> No.11652961

>>11652952
None, they're just images and voices slapped together in a computer programm so it's not like I can actually interact with them.
They're not even sentient beings.

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>>11652952
She's asking for it anyway.

>> No.11652963

>>11652950
pointless argument, Zuihou best

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>>11652956
Good taste, have a Wo.

>> No.11652965

Please reply ;_; >>11652923

>> No.11652966

>>11652965
>>>/wikia/
>>>/facebook/

>> No.11652967

>>11652951
That is impressive.She is by far most limited CVL, a locked slot, yet you stand by her.
I'm impressed.

>Zuihou is the cutest
Shit taste.She is indeed very cute but RJ is cuter.
>Hey you, don't touch around that much.
Like there is something to grope.
;_;

>> No.11652968

>>11652965
What? You did not even ask anything you stupid faggot.

>> No.11652969

>>11652965
Don't bother with Yahagi and you'll be happier.

>> No.11652970

>>11652952
I'd only fug the ones with the silliest hats.

>> No.11652971

>>11652947
You seem really upset, friend. Let's just take it easy.

I meant to say "there's no conclusive evidence to account for people losing ships", it was a mistype. My mistake. The point was that they don't just casually dismiss them as trolls though.

Personally, I actually am in the camp that orange is safe and you can go into night on red. But it would be irresponsible to pretend that reports otherwise don't exist. If someone asks if it's safe, I would say yes, but some people have claimed it wasn't. Bringing up the other reports isn't some sort of grave sin.

Really I don't give as much of a shit over this as I do over the whole, "/jp/ is a community, how can you not trust the community!". Please keep this attitude out of here, it's what killed 4chan as a whole. Look at how the other boards turned to shit, it started with the whole "board community" thing and Chanology. /jp/ is moderately less shit than the other boards, I would like to see it stay that way.

>> No.11652972

>>11652967
As much as I like RJ, would like to dominate Yahagi and mindbreak her.

>> No.11652974

>>11652965
>>11652923
Dont use 2CA.
Replace 1 of them with 3xtorpedo Shigure/Yukiaze or 2xtorpedo + turbine if you believe in turbine.

>> No.11652977 [DELETED] 

>>11652971
It would stay that way if you didn't start shitting it up already.

>> No.11652979

I only want my goddamn I-8 but the cut-ins keep trolling me so hard I don't even know what to say
using a sub helps to lower the number of possible cut-ins and double attacks

but then a CA always has a cut-in or double attacks one of my BB into red. always. 11 / 11 tries

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>>11652972
I literally don't know anything about her.
Well, whatever floats your boat.

>> No.11652982

>>11652972
Yahagi's already broken, she should be loved tenderly not mindbroken further. You're a horrible person.

>> No.11652984

>>11652972

The way Yahagi pulls on her glove is fucking sex.

If only I was more prepared for this event.

>> No.11652985

>>11652969
I'm hoping to luck out. I haven't spent 25k resources just to give up
>>11652974
I don't believe in evasion. When I was running with a 68 Shimakaze, she was the one sending me back most of the time. But I'll try slotting in a cut-in DD.

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>>11652984
You are now aware of her tiny right hand.

>> No.11652990

>>11652982
Well she will be, due to the amount of shit I had to go through to get her.

Besides, her damaged lines get me hard every time.

>> No.11652992

>>11652985
Also if you do that, you should slot 1 of the DD/2CLT to the top or 2nd spot so that they can wiped out the 2enemy escorts before they get their turn.

>> No.11652994

>>11652989

No anon, her large breasts are creating a void around her, bending the light and making her hand appear to be small.

>> No.11652995

>>11652994
Too bad Suzuya still has larger breasts than her.

>> No.11653031

Out of Yukikaze and Hibiki, which is more worthwhile to keep in my fleet at low-ish levels? I know that Hibiki's second remodel makes her pretty strong, but is that something I shouldn't worry myself about untill much later and just focus on Yukikaze now?

>> No.11653037

>>11653031
considering how painfully long grinding a DD is, you better keep them often in your fleet to have a smooth level progression.

If you really can't afford using both of them due to firepower etc, just rotate them often.
Vernyi and Yukikaze are both useful later on for different reasons (Vernyi is the best ASW DD, while Yukikaze luck makes her DD queen of the night).

>> No.11653048

So, anybody can tell me the recipe for Midget Submarines for Kitakami and Ooi? I cant seem to find them in the wiki

>> No.11653052

>>11653037
Poi Kai 2 is a good choice later on as well, since it has that firepower.

>> No.11653054

>>11653037
I guess I'll just do that then. My current fleet setup is SS(Just got Goya)/CVL/3CA/DD, I guess I just keep Goya in flagship so whatever can will focus and she can't sink, is that a good plan?

>> No.11653064

>>11653031
Level as many DDs as you can. You will eventually need 6 of them anyway.
BB and CV can be shoved aside as there is really no reason to have more than 1 of them unless you need to do some maps that required huge firepower. Besides they level fast since they can easily get MVP unlike DDs.

>> No.11653068

Welp, sparkling makes E1 only very frustrating instead of entirely impossible, so that's cool. Managed to get to boss once, get to node before boss once, and failed on the first nodes half a dozen times. This whole "just started, have nearly no buckets" thing is kinda shit - if I can get Iku I'm ignoring events until I have 6 gorillion buckets lying around, or at least a decently leveled fleet and half as many buckets.

Didn't realize sparkling the entire fleet made THAT much of a difference, though. Even BBs and CVs can dodge sub-chan with Line Abreast and sparkly gloriousness.

Event ends in about 36 hours, right? 9am JST on the 27th? I should be able to get 6-7 buckets from dailies and stuff, so if i take things slow I... mmmight get really really lucky.

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>>11653068
What is this for?

>> No.11653088

>>11653052
yep, that's why I like DD in general, because all of them have its use:
Vernyi: sub killer
Yukikaze: cut-in master/dodge machine
Yuudachi: Artillery
Shimakaze: torpedo/allrounder
Shigure: AA

nothing as satisfying as having these girls wrecking a map with barely any major damage.

>> No.11653097

>>11653088
Even if they get crushed to 1hp their repair times are still pretty reasonable and they're also very cheap to deploy.

>> No.11653117

E-5 or E-3 for Agano?

I had no luck on either, but since I plan on going into maximum grinding mode I think E-3 must be better and less taxing on resources?

>> No.11653119

>>11653074
a chance to avoid battles

>> No.11653122

>>11653117
I would give you an Agano if I could, I have way too many of them from E-5 runs.

>> No.11653128

>>11653117
admit it, you're not gonna use her anyway, just take it easy

>> No.11653131

>>11653128
But I feel so incomplete

She is the only one I am missing from this event

>> No.11653132

>>11653128
>>11653131
Same here.
I cant believe she is rarer than Yahagi. Even though I am not going to use her, I still need to complete my card album.

>> No.11653133

>>11653132
42 buckets down, 6k fuel, 6k steel, 4k ammo
E-4 status: got to boss once and everyone killed the fortress shit instead.
this is complete bullshit

>> No.11653149

Just a quick question.

SSV's can cut-in, right?
I was always cold towards the idea but now I think I could've killed that Wo Flagship at the 2-3 with a double torpedo cut-in.

>> No.11653153

>>11653149
A better question would be why you're even going into night battle on 2-3.

>> No.11653154

>>11653153
Farming for Hiryuu

>> No.11653157

>>11653153
Well sometimes your subdaughters get lazy during day and leave 2-3 ship with 1 health which happens to be CVL or Wa class.

>> No.11653176

So, while building battleships, I got myself a Yamashiro

Yet the problem is that I already have a Yamashiro, I wonder what should I do with her...

>> No.11653178

>>11653176
scrap her or use it as modernization food. there is little to no point having doubles, save few exceptions (rotation, not fancying remodel art, etc)

>> No.11653191

>>11653178
>>11653176

.....

You know, scratch that, I got two extra Yamashiros now

RNG, the true enemies of admirals everywhere

>> No.11653212

New thread
>>11653211

>> No.11653217

>>11653212
Oh, my bad. I didn't realize that the meido did some cleaning; the current thread is the 3rd last thread on the catalog, but it's only on page 9.

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