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EVENT DURATION: Event Extended Until Nov. 27

Previous Thread: >>11626938

English Wiki
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Kancolle_Wiki

Must reads
FAQ: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:_FAQ
Tutorial: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:_How_to_Play
Guides: http://pastebin.com/jvTQfLqb

Japanese Wikis
http://www56.atwiki.jp/kancolle/
http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/

Others
Detailed Battle Mechanics (wikiwiki): http://goo dot gl/FUMcz
Kancolle Vita: http://www.kancolle-vita.com/
Voice Clips, Room Deco Pv, Game Sprites: http://www51.atpages.jp/kancollev/

Also, please be considerate with those screencaps. At least delete them when they're not relevant anymore.

To non-/jp/-regulars: /jp/ has its own standards for posting. It would be greatly appreciated if you could follow them. These include, but are not limited to discouraging the use of most emoticons and proper use of the quoting function (don't use it for bullet points: greentexting).

>> No.11635330
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Maintenance tonight at the usual time. Brace for new girl.

>> No.11635340

>>11635330
I look forward to Kirishima K2 and the first of the coastal defense vessels.

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Soon

>> No.11635354
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Zuihou is a cute girl with a candy cane bow.

>> No.11635356

>>11635347
Is the official design or a fan-made design?

Don't let me down.

>> No.11635358

>>11635330
>>11635340
>本日も、気合い、入れて、頑張ってまいりましょう!
Uh-oh, looks like HIEI is gonna get it since they hinted it on twitter!

You don't actually think they're going to use the last remaining BB upgrade slot in the encyclopedia for another Kongou class upgrade, do you?

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>>11635330
I-401 please.

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>>11635347

>> No.11635368

>>11635358
It's like you haven't noticed just how disorganized the numbering system in the index is. Why does it even matter if it's the last slot on the page? There's nothing stopping the devs from adding more pages, and they will have to, us there's definitely more girls coming.

>> No.11635369 [DELETED] 

populated discussion that gets new threads made for it as soon as the old one fills up or is about to get pruned
>>>/vg/

>> No.11635374 [DELETED] 

>>11635369
trying too hard

>> No.11635375 [DELETED] 

>>11635374
https://www.4chan.org/rules#vg1
This board is for the posting of video game "general" threads, which are long-term, recurring threads about a specific topic.
>video game
>long-term, recurring threads about a specific topic

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>>11635375

>> No.11635383

>>11635368
They're going to fill up the current slots before they start adding new pages. It likely means two new ships and two new upgrades. There's actually some reason to the numbering system: for example, with the exception of Musashi, all of the slots on the final page are for Kai 2s of earlier ships. This seems to indicate that there's a good likelihood that the two remaining slots on that page are going to be for the same.

>> No.11635402

>>11635347
>KONGOU

I'm confused.

>> No.11635407

>>11635356
>>11635402
I think that's the modern destroyer named after Kongou.

So fake.

>> No.11635415

>>11635402
Here you go.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kong%C5%8D-class_destroyer

Seriosly, that image is legit or not?

>>11635407
Oh, I see. Thanks.

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>>11635358
Hopefully, they won't do the same thing they did to Kongou. Especially that half-arsed damage sprite.

>> No.11635423

>>11635347
Artist's impressions for these can be so nice. I sorta like Musashi's current design, but still prefer the blue-haired mock-up some artist did.

>> No.11635426

>>11635415
>Seriously, that image is legit or not?
... why the fuck would you even ask? It's from Pixiv and it depicts a ship which was commissioned forty-five years after the end of the Pacific War.

>> No.11635444

>>11635423
I'm hoping some of these designs will be polished and included into the game in a design contest of sorts.

>> No.11635456

>>11635426
I wrote that question before reading well the Wiki page, I was somewhat hyped for the design. And I forgot to delete it.

Just me being an idiot, nothing more.

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>>11635423
I remember the artist who did the mock Musashi design being amused/annoyed when he found out someone jumped the gun and made bootleg merchandises based on his design.

>> No.11635465

>>11635463

i'll delete this post myself later, or maybe not.

>> No.11635494

does boss regen during maintenance?

>> No.11635501

>>11635494
no

>> No.11635514

>>11635494
I wish Musashi would rape you with her 46 cm.

>> No.11635518

I saw on the wiki that it's an online maintenance, so are the server getting shut down? Referring to the doorblog, seems like only four of them will be closed, while the others are going to be running.

Contemplating if I should send my daughters into a long hours expedition.

>> No.11635526

>>11635354
Would she let me suck on it?

>> No.11635522

>>11635283
>What. Once you get them to level 10, you can just run 2-3 over and over again. It even pays for itself in terms of fuel costs.
Wouldn't that shit all over your wain-rate that can bite you in the ass when you try to do the events?

>> No.11635533

>>11635522
Only if you're using a single sub, where a lone crit will generally make you lose a battle. With two subs you'll only lose around one out of every twenty five battles.

>> No.11635643

>>11635330
Offline or online maintenance?

>> No.11635650

fuck, i was planning on doing E-5 tonight. guess i'll do it tomorrow.

is the "usual time" 21:00? i seem to remember it being at 21:00 before.

>> No.11635657

>>11635650
It is always 11JST time.

>> No.11635669

>>11635643
Both.

If you're on any of these servers, you will go offline (the boss gauges won't recover):

【トラック泊地サーバ】
【リンガ泊地サーバ】
【ラバウル基地サーバ】
【ショートランド泊地サーバ】

It's business as usual for the others.

>> No.11635729

>>11635669
What servers are these in numbers? I've got no idea how server 12 is called.

>> No.11635744

>>11635729
none of those are 12
i only know because im on 12 and it's parao or something similar.

>> No.11635868

Anyone on 13?

>> No.11635993
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400/30/600/30 third try

>> No.11636014

>>11635993

You tempt me to try it again anon.

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>>11635993
Enjoy your bear

>> No.11636056

Is there a recommended E4 fleet comp that works in the japanese wikis/boards?
Failed my first E4 run and want to give it another try but I dont know what to use

>> No.11636074

>>11636056
2x Kongo 2x torpedo 2x CA

>> No.11636076
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Cute girls doing smooching things.

>> No.11636089

>>11636056
2 Kongou 2 CLt 1 CAv 1DD

>> No.11636087

>>11636074
Can you use a third battleship instead of Ooi for that without getting to dead ends every time?

My Ooi is only 20 so she wont be useful there.

>> No.11636093

>>11636087
Yes but it can't be a Kongo class, or else you'll get -ammo node.

>> No.11636109

>>11636056
2xkongo 2xnagato 2xise
6xsanshiki
Guarantee to kill the boss.

>> No.11636114

>>11636109
RIP resources and buckets

>> No.11636123

>>11635669
Goddammit, Now I wish I was part of the server 4 cool club. Why are these the only ones going down anyway?

>> No.11636126

>>11636114
He only has to do that for the last run, really.

>> No.11636140

>>11636123
Physical upgrades, read the twitter.

>> No.11636142

>>11636109
Nobody wants the Fusou class.

>> No.11636143

>>11636109
That's a horrible fleet composition, the subs will rip you a new one and you won't even be able to reach the boss most of the time.

I'll be farming E5 once they launch the update with Yamato, Musashi, Mutsu, Nagato, Ise, Hyuuga. Best fleet and best route.

>> No.11636154

>>11636143
There are subs in E4? Since when?

>> No.11636161

>>11636154
>E4
Holy shit how did I miss that.

>> No.11636163

>>11636143
Should share a E4 fleet comp instead of a E5 one

>> No.11636171

>>11636143
Shimakaze, Yukikaze, Maikaze, Yuudachi, Shigure and Hibiki trump your slow and fat useless BBs.

>> No.11636175

>>11636109
CA can also deal good damage to E4 boss. Enjoy the enemy gold CA/DD crit your BB every single node

>> No.11636184

>>11636171
And how's Akatsuki doing?

>> No.11636196

So, people discuss this all the time but they never come to an agreement on this.

Can ships sink in orange or not? Some say that ships wont sink in orange and other people say that the devs said they can sink in orange and its dangerous.
Which one is it?

>> No.11636202

>>11636196
Please don't start this shit.

Just look through the archives and make a decision for yourself.

>> No.11636204

>>11636196
Why don't you find out for yourself?

>> No.11636206

Made my account so I can see what all this hype is about.

>> No.11636208

>>11636196
I had a few DD sink from orange at the E-2 boss. Same, obviously, with red, but never with yellow.

>> No.11636212

>>11636196
They can't but why take my word for it? Instead, take a fleet with damecons and try it out for yourself.

>> No.11636214

>>11636184
These days I just let the Akatsuki sisters run about in the HQ and do chores occasionally. Verniy too, unless it's important business. It's good that they won't have to see violence for a long while.

>> No.11636224
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>>11636202
I guarantee that none of your orange ships will ever sink.

>> No.11636218

>>11636196
>the devs said they can sink in orange and its dangerous.
Only fools fall for the devs propaganda and buy damage control. Dont let them jew you. All the people saying how their ships sank at orange are all paid by the devs to spread lies.

>> No.11636222

>>11636142
I'd use them if my other BBs didn't need the levels more, and if my preferred fleet compositions for this event didn't call for a maximum of two BBs which had to be Kongo-class.

>> No.11636223

>>11636196
Trust the Japanese wiki, they're more reliable than the lying Americans and Euros on this website.

>> No.11636227

>>11636224
Always trust Wo-chan

>> No.11636237

>>11636218
Or all the people who say otherwise are assholes that want to see their fellow admirals suffer through sunken ships
given what 4chan and /jp/ is like, that makes much more sense than what you claim

>> No.11636236

>>11636196
Ask your mom.

>> No.11636252

I've never had an orange ship sunk doing E-4 and E-5. I've tested this with level 1 DDs as well so it's not the sparkles that prevent this.

>> No.11636255

>>11636196
There are no video to proof that ships will sink with orange damage

>> No.11636267

>>11636237
More like opposite.
The people spreading lies want to cause fear and paranoid for people trying to attempt E-4 and E-5. Why they do this you ask? So that they can be the elite 50k with Musashi while the rest give up out of fear of having their ship sinking at orange.

>> No.11636265

I've never been struck by lightning, ergo it is impossible for a person to be struck by lightning. Any statements to the contrary are lies from just industry shills trying to sell lightning rods.

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Well, while we're on this topic, I'll try out the infamous "Ships can't sink in night battle if they enter day battle in full hp" myth.

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>>11636196

>> No.11636276

>>11636265
Yeah, you should totally retreat on green. Why, you should retreat even if you took no damage, because no one has been able to prove conclusively that full health without fatigue protects from sinking!

>> No.11636278

>>11636268
Doing it at 4-3, entering day battle in full hp.

>> No.11636279

>>11636271
This.

>> No.11636285

>>11636268
Posted this in the previous thread but might as well repost:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPIKBj1qQuA

I understand it's not a large sample size, but it's still enough to convince me that at the very least, it is generally safe to go into night battle with a ship that got hit into the red during the day.

>> No.11636283

>>11636268
>>11636278
Nevermind, I'm a retard, they just blasted through 4-3 first node without any problems, I'll bring 6 DD instead.

>> No.11636287

I have tested an infinite amount of times and can say with certainty that starting a battle with ships in orange means that they won't sink.

>> No.11636293

>>11636268
If you're doing that out of boredom anon, could you also try the "ships won't eat cut-ins if the fleets's evasion stat is 300+" theory.

>> No.11636294

>>11636276
The difference here is there have been official statements that it is possible to sink while you're in "中破". Either the devs are lying, or the possibility of sinking exists.

>> No.11636299

Flagship never sink because they always retreat at red.
This imply that only red ship can sink.
The devs didnt code the flagship spot differently compare to the other slot, they just code it so that if the flagship can be sunk, they auto retreat your whole fleet.

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In August E-2, I got my level 37 KTKM-sama killed when I entered the boss fight in orange and went to night battle. I'm pretty sure she was in orange when the night battle started. She took a heavy crit hit from the boss' hit and sank.

It was pretty traumatic.

>> No.11636303

>>11636294
It is possible to sink at any level of health when fatigued.

>> No.11636305

>>11636299
>The devs didnt code the flagship spot differently compare to the other slot
Clearly you weren't playing before the flagship retreat on red was implemented. It was coded differently.

>> No.11636307

>>11636299
Welcome to the game. That was only added after the August event.

>> No.11636308

>>11636304
You weren't sure enough.
She was definitely in red.

>> No.11636310

>>11636304
What is this?
No proof?
No picture?
Get out DMM dev and update your fucking server instead of trolling.

>> No.11636312

>>11636308
But jaypee told me that if you enter a battle above red, you won't sink in night even if you're brought to red during day!

>> No.11636314

>>11636312
That was an obvious lie.

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300/30/400/401

after too many failed tries, Finally a 2nd carrier.

>> No.11636352

>>11636345
How did you accumulate all those resources?

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>>11636308
> red
Maybe when night battle started. I know she was in orange, because I was fucking worried about pressing that proceed button after the pre-boss node with her in orange. Support fleet not showing up made me + not dealing much damage to the boss during the day + Kitakami-sama surviving clouded my judgement and I hit that night battle button. Re-reading the comments in that thread, the boss dealt about 330 damage to her.

>>11636345
Stop crafting admiral. Go beat the event instead.

>> No.11636359

>>11636352
That's not a lot of resources. Barely enough to scrape E-3, let alone touch E-4.

>> No.11636358

>>11636352
what is hoarding?

>> No.11636365

>>11636358
Oh well, I'm always doing sorties so I just have less than 2k all the time.

>> No.11636370

>>11636352
By cheating at 3-2, notice the amount of steel compare to the rest of the other resources.

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>>11636370
Well, this is mine here. I didn't abuse anything, but the steel kept pilling up as I didn't use it much.

>> No.11636378

>>11636359
thats more than enough to complete E-3, i had terrible compass luck on e-3 being sent through 4 combat nodes preboss a bunch of times and it still only cost me 6k/6k/5k/6k + about 5 hours regen/expeditions.

>> No.11636384

So, the only (secondary) weapon of choice for DDs is the 10cm gun?

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>> No.11636398

>>11636384
10 cm high-angle is a main gun. Read the wiki.

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>>11636345
Getting them from drop is much more satisfying than crafting. Enjoy your blue background anon.

>> No.11636402

>>11636398
Then there's no way for DDs to achieve double attack while equipped with a torpedo. Fuck.

>> No.11636412

>>11636402
You can provided you just want the torpedo stat.
10cm
10cm
midget sub

>> No.11636413

>>11636412
>midget sub
Admiral please.

>> No.11636414

>>11636412
Oh well, leveling the plane sisters now for those subs.

>> No.11636420

>>11636412
you cant equip midget subs to ships that cannot use them as far as i know, they simply dont appear in the equipment list.

>> No.11636422

>>11636420
oh shit, I forgot that DD cant equip midget
tough luck anon, just put 3torpedo on them for maximum cut-in efficiency

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11636426

Next lottery when?

>> No.11636427

>>11636402
you can

read the wiki please

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>>11636405
So true.

>> No.11636430

>>11636426
I seriously wish people would stop fucking up Kantoku's art with shitty shops like that.

>> No.11636440

>>11636428
>>11636405
I haven't gotten to that point in the game. I need to get started with the event maps, so I can suffer with everybody.

>> No.11636442

>>11636440

Have fun farming 200 runs with only a few runs yielding anything decent.

>> No.11636446

>>11636427
To get a double attack with a torpedo equipped, I need two secondary weapons. DDs can't equip any.

>> No.11636456

>>11636446
hint: Agano class.

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>>11636430
But they look great, I like them

>> No.11636464

>>11636456
They are CLs. 8cm high angle can't be equipped on DDs.

>> No.11636466

>>11636456
ushio should be a cl with those tits

>> No.11636483

>>11636464
damn, assumed it would work considering the 10cm high angle is useable by both DD and CL

>> No.11636491
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Yahagi

>> No.11636492

>>11636491
Another Agano class? Well, looks like I won't be bothering.

>> No.11636493
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11636493

Perhaps this is the new E5 drop

>> No.11636498

>>11636491
1% random drop at E-5 boss node?

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I enjoy gloves.

>> No.11636501

>>11636493
So I can skip it and save resource for the yamato building spree then.

>> No.11636507

>>11636500
using her glove to pacify your dick?

>> No.11636504

>>11636500

She's even pulling it.

That's even better.

>> No.11636511

>>11636491
Man, I don't even have Agano yet. DMM whyyy

>> No.11636520

>>11636507
What about using her glove to fap while she's not looking and return it without her noticing?

>> No.11636527

>>11636491
I-is that a side ponytail?

>> No.11636524

>>11636491
How boring. I like their design, but there's really no use for another average CL, especially when I have her sisters to level already.

>> No.11636532

>>11636520
Thanks for the lubricant, admiral.

>> No.11636533

>>11636524
You do know that you don't play this game for stats, right?

>> No.11636534

>>11636520

Then she puts it on, notices what's inside,looks at you, then keeps it on?

>> No.11636537

>>11636534
Dont forget to give her a wink or a seductive smile when she looks at you, its a important part of it.

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>>11636534

>> No.11636547

>>11636532
No problem, there's more from where that came from. Just let me know if you need more.

>> No.11636543

>>11636534
That evening the kempeitai knock on your door, and the next day everyone wonders where admiral went.

>> No.11636550

>>11636534
Can someone roleplay this out with me?
Please leave a contact email.

>> No.11636554

>>11636550
http://exhentai.org/g/647670/5d71364328/

>> No.11636564

>>11636491
Yahagi is devs favorite, she should be holo.

>> No.11636568

>>11636533
No need to remind me. I'm just disappointed that it's yet another Konishi kanmusu (whose design I like, but I've been seeing enough of them lately + there's probably another one coming in a few hours) rather than I-401 whose design has been revealed for a long time. Sure 401 is probably going to have a gold background at minimum, but this is E-5 that they are asking us to grind.

>> No.11636569

>>11636564
>Holo rarity
>E5 drop only
The devs in this are huge dicks, dear god.

I hope she drops from E3 too, she's going to be rarer than musashi at this rate.

>> No.11636577

>>11636564
Ok.
Back to E3 for me. I rather get zuikaku than some trophy CL that I wont use.

>> No.11636584

>>11636564
>>11636569
Or maybe Sakawa, 4th Agano class sister, as her birthday(of building) is 21th.

>> No.11636596

>>11636584
It's Sakawa, 'cos of those gloves.

>> No.11636597

Only one more Kongou sister to go, and she's the ugliest one.

>> No.11636599

>>11636584

Judging from her service career I'm more inclined they use Yahagi instead. That way we can have another composition quest for a free repair crew

>> No.11636601

>>11636597
What if Kirishitma get the kai2 instead of Haruna?
How many of you would scrapped her out of anger?

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11636602

Hello fellow teitokus, Newbie admiral here.
So I decided to beat 2-4 today. Do you think my fleet is viable?
I have a Kongou, but she's still low-level, and I can't wait to clear 2-4 once for all.
And also, could you give me some advice for the equipment?

>> No.11636608

>>11636601
I won't because I need all the firepower that I can get. Being cute or whatever is secondary to me...

Perhaps after the event.

>> No.11636606

>>11636602
overleveled for 2-4

>> No.11636607

>>11636601
I already scrapped all my Kirishimas. Only Hiei, Kongou(still not remodel2) and Haruna are left.

>> No.11636613

>>11636601
Can you stop this character war incitement? It's pathetic to watch.

>> No.11636611

>>11636602
more than viable. Just hope that compass points you south path.

I did 2-4 with 2 subs. you have 3 BB overleveled so yo ushould be more than set.

>> No.11636615

>>11636602
Overleveled.
Even E-3 is a cakewalk with your fleet.

>> No.11636617

>>11636602
2-4 is all up to the compass.

>> No.11636621
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11636621

Hi guys, new admiral here. How ready am I for 2-4?

>> No.11636622

>>11636602
I wanna kill you for having all those nice ships so early.

>> No.11636629

>>11636621
>Musashi not 99
Admiral pls

>> No.11636624

>>11636621
Nice try pal.

>> No.11636625

>>11636621
You need Agano or the compass won't send you to the boss node.

>> No.11636627

>>11636621
Level up your Musashi a bit more.

>> No.11636630
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11636630

>>11636613
I love Kirishima and a low-level shitpost doesn't even bother me.
>How many of you would scrapped her out of anger? (>>11636601)
The dude can't even into English, pfft.

>> No.11636631

>>11636621
You clearly need more levels on your Musashi.
Better yet drop her and Noshiro and just cheese it with 2 subs. You don't have the balls to beat 2-4 normally anyway.

>> No.11636632

>>11636621
You'll never make it if you don't hurry up and get a fifth ship. What a noob.

>> No.11636633

>>11636627
But she eats so much fuel and ammo..
>>11636625
Will get her after they release the third Agano sister.
>>11636624
I havn't attempted 2-4 yet though, how is it a nice try?

>> No.11636635

>>11636621
You're not going anywhere with your iku in repairs.

>> No.11636636

>>11636633
I honestly find it hard to believe someone finished E-5 before 2-4.

>> No.11636639

Who is the ugliest ship? and why is it Fuso?

>> No.11636644

>>11636606
>>11636611
>>11636615
>>11636617
>>11636622

Well, it is true that I haven't beaten 2-4. And maybe I'm just too scared to have low resources...
Thanks for your advice. And somehow I have to make sure that the compass girls don't be to cruel to us.

I even haven't beaten E-2. Maybe I should give it a try after this.

>> No.11636641

>>11636621
How do you cheat at 3-2 without beating 2-4?
Reporting your screenshot directly to DMM, enjoy your ban.

>> No.11636645

>>11636639
Just because they're the next then to spectral wraiths doesn't mean you should be mean to them.

>> No.11636646

>>11636641
I obviously hated enough money to get those resources up there.

>> No.11636654

>>11636639
Are you also the same guy who kept saying Ise sisters' design was shit? What made you change your target to the Fuso fans?

>> No.11636655

>>11636630
Are you seriously expecting facebook to into engrish?

>> No.11636657
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11636657

>>11636636
Well, I beat E-5 before 3-2. Still haven't beaten 3-2. DDs are a pain to level.

>> No.11636661

>>11636639
Nagara is pretty ugly.

>> No.11636662

>>11636661
What about those niggers from myoukou class?

>> No.11636663

現在作業中のメンテ&オンメンテには、アップデートが伴います。このアップデートでは、新改装(改造)が可能となる戦艦娘1隻、イベント最深部に追加配置される新軽巡洋艦娘1隻に加え、白露型駆逐艦1番艦娘「白露」改の新グラ&追加ボイス、新家具3種類の実装が予定されています。

Isn't it sad, Murasame?

>> No.11636664

>>11636654
They're has always been a guy insisting the Fusou sisters are ugly.

>> No.11636666

>>11636662
At least they're hilarious when damaged. Nagara is just bland and ugly.

>> No.11636668

>>11636661
She would be cute if it wasn't for the forehead

>> No.11636669

>>11636663
So.. the non-Nagato fall furniture is going away?

>> No.11636672

>>11636663
> 「白露」改
The only Shiratsuyu whom I haven't even leveled to 20 yet, argh.

>> No.11636673
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11636673

>>11636663
Is it sad?

>> No.11636684

>>11636663
All is right in the world

>> No.11636680

>>11636663

Despite it not being Murasame, I'm happy it's another Shiratsuyu class ship.

>> No.11636682
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11636682

>>11636672
She is rarer than both Yukikaze and Shimakaze.

>> No.11636683

>>11636663
a BB re-remodel.
New CL on deepest E maps.
Remodeled Siratsuyu gets visual & audio upgrade.
Three winter furniture.

>> No.11636686

>>11636672
I don't even have her anymore.

I'll probably run into her anyway while sparkling my fleet for my return to E-5.

>> No.11636688

Have they confirmed the new shipdaughter is E-5 boss drop yet? Also has anyone gotten anything good from farming E-5 with subs. The best I've gotten out of 40ish runs is a ktkm.

>> No.11636694
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11636694

Reporting my result.

Get to the boss node on the first try, a perfect s on every node. But my fleet is critical'd by every battleships at the boss node.

Thanks everyone, maybe my next target is to beat E-2 and E-3.

>> No.11636696

you guys are faggots. Shiratsuyu was the best without a remodel, and will once again be the best afterwards. i hope.

>> No.11636697

>>11636663
Time to level your Shiratsuyu since her second remodel is co-mmingg!

>> No.11636701

>>11636663
She should just hang out with the Akatsuki sisters sans Bep.

>> No.11636702

>>11636682
She's rare? I have two, I think

>> No.11636703

>>11636683
I wonder how big the visual upgrade will be for Shiratsuyu-Kai. It's not a second remodel, right?

>> No.11636709

Interesting interview in Febri Vol.19, by Tanaka Producer:

If you think and extend the words from previous event bosses and future event bosses when they sink, you will see the reality of abyss ship and dark side of Kancolle world.

>DARK SIDE.

YES.

>> No.11636713

>>11636703
I'm sure it's just a lewder damage state. Hers in its current state was on the lazy side even though she's the nameship.

>> No.11636715

>>11636709
Please, there were the same people that said you could sink on orange.

Believing Kancolle devs, not even once.

>> No.11636716

>>11636709
What did the bosses say?

>> No.11636719

>>11636703
Don't think so, honestly I don't even know why they picked her for a visual update, god knows how much the others
need it more.

>> No.11636722

>>11636709
I can't wait for the anime to show all of the Akatsuki's being mercilessly slaughtered and and ship PTSD.

>> No.11636729

>>11636702
Some common DDs are kinda rare because of their few spawn points where people don't stay long.

>> No.11636726

>>11636722
Wait forever.

>> No.11636727

>>11636683
... so is it merely a cosmetic update or are we getting a second remodel?

>> No.11636733

>>11636729
I got a bunch of Shiratsuyu while doing my sparkle runs for the event. Sunk one while doing some testing, even.

>> No.11636735

>>11636729
I was going to say, I have terrible luck and it really shows in KanColle. I'd have raised an eyebrow if I somehow managed to get a rare.

>> No.11636739

>>11636727
I'm not even sure if Shiratsuyu deserves a 2nd remodel. It's probably just a slight design update and additional idle / time check lines.

>> No.11636748

>>11636716
E5's boss really doesn't want to sink again.

And you sink her.

>> No.11636753

>>11636748
whatever

I went back a day later and she was still alive and well

>> No.11636758

>>11636733
>>11636735

1-1 is a best place to hunt.
Those who usually do sparkle runs should have collected all rare-common DDs.

Check this drop table.
http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%B4%CF%CC%BC%A5%C9%A5%ED%A5%C3%A5%D7%B5%D5%B0%FA%A4%AD

No.067 Oboro and her sisters are great examples to miss.

>> No.11636759

>>11636729
Nameships feel a bit rarer than their sisters, at least for DDs.

>> No.11636766

Should Battleships and Heavy Cruiser based teams use double line or abreast?

>> No.11636773

>>11636766
Echelon formation.

>> No.11636778

Can't believe I got a Yubari from a 30x all recipe.

>> No.11636785

>>11636778
That's the most common recipe for YUBR.

>> No.11636800

>>11636773
Thanks, worked swimmingly for 3 nodes until my carrier decided to get crit to orange

>> No.11636843
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11636843

It's Haruna's turn, right?

>> No.11636846

>>11636758
Shiratsuyu is really rare though.
I did 1-1 sparkled for all my E4 and E5 runs and have been sparkling my expedition fleet for ex9 and 13 when I sleep. She never drop for me at all.
I probably need to do 1-2 and 1-3 seriously if she gets kai2.

>> No.11636852
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11636852

>>11636800
Stop being a pussy, you won't sink in orange.

>> No.11636856

>>11636852
I didn't stop. With her repair time, I'd rather stick it out

>> No.11636861

>>11636846
Why didn't they make her a silver drop at least I will never know.

>> No.11636867

>>11636846
She's not rare at all, you just have horrid luck. I've picked up too many to count over the past week, along with possibly every DD drop in 1-1, when sparkling for E5 and expeditions.

>> No.11636891

If Yuudachi Kai 2 looks like a vampire,
and Shigure Kai 2 looks like a dog,
then what will Shiratsuyu Kai 2 look like?

>> No.11636902

>>11636891
sixty niggers

>> No.11636910

>>11636891
Haruhi. She will get a captain armband.

>> No.11636906

>>11636891

A fox.

>> No.11636917
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11636917

Speak of the devil. 3rd sparkle run.

>> No.11636931

When does the maintenance ends?

>> No.11636941

>>11636931
In two hours.

>> No.11636953

Should I be using Chiyoda or Zuihou? Chiyoda looks like she has better stats but Zuihou is so damn cute.

>> No.11636958
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11636958

Who here would be hunting for this slut after the maintenance?

>> No.11636959

>>11636941
It's three now.

>> No.11636961 [DELETED] 

>>11636953

Who do you want more, a drunk or a young girl you grope when you get back from a sortie?

>> No.11636963

>>11636959
Oh well.

>> No.11636967

>>11636961
Can I have a drunk young girl that I grope?

>> No.11636969

>>11636958
Please don't be rude, Anonymous. You haven't even met the girl yet.

>> No.11636970

>>11636953
One has a huge rack, the other look like a boy.
What do you think?

>> No.11636975
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11636975

>>11636958
Count me in, dat ponytail.

>> No.11636976

>>11636967
Depends, do you have a Верный?

>> No.11636978

>>11636970
>the other look like a boy.

That boy's got a pretty girly moan.

>> No.11636980

>>11636976
I do indeed have a Верный.

>> No.11636999
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11636999

>>11636953
Choose the best remodel.

>> No.11637002

>>11636917
She sure does look like a loli Haruhi.

>> No.11637008
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11637008

Which Hiryuu do you prefer?

>> No.11637004

>>11637002
More like Yui cosplaying Haruhi.

>> No.11637005
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11637005

Good for her.

>> No.11637007

>>11636999
Too busty, did not remodel.

>> No.11637028

本日のメンテ&オンメンテに伴うアップデート詳細をお知らせします。

01▼戦艦娘1隻の新改装(改造)が可能に!
ある戦艦姉妹の1隻が、かなり高い練度において新たな改装(改造)が可能となる仕様が実装されました。
(続く)

FUCK THIS TEASE, JUST TELL ME WHO IT IS.

>> No.11637042
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11637042

>>11637008
Alternative Yahagi.

>> No.11637043

>>11637028
Kirishima. I'll throw 10000JPY at the game if I'm wrong.

>> No.11637044

>>11637028
I know who it is but I don't feel like telling you guys.

>> No.11637045

>>11637028
Hiei? She does look like to refer herself as the imouto.

>> No.11637053

>S勝利ではドロップ率が2倍に設定されています

I don't get it. Double drop at S rank or only drops at perfect S?

>> No.11637054

>>11637053
The drop rate of it is doubled if you S rank it.

>> No.11637055

>>11637053
S-victory gets double drop rate, minimum required is A.

Have fun at E-5 guys, is it in yet or until 5JST?

>> No.11637059

So Suzuya and Kumano can now drop at E 1-3 as well? Did they have a chance to drop already at E5?
>>11637053
The former.

>> No.11637060

>>11636891
Nothing.

>> No.11637064
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11637064

>>11637028
Sure hope it's Haruna... if only for my own convenience.

>>11637055
A-rank means subs are out. S-rank means you gotta bring out the support fleets. (Assuming they're about E-5) Sigh, back to 800 ammo a run.

>> No.11637065
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11637065

Wassup niggas.

>> No.11637068

>>11636891
>>11637060
>改二への更新ではありません。

Yep. Looks like the dream is over.

>> No.11637072

>>11637065
Fuck yes.

>> No.11637074
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11637074

>> No.11637075
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11637075

>>11637065
pls go

>> No.11637076

>>11637074

I like it.

>> No.11637078

>>11637074
>>11637075
YES
Anyone but Kirishima

>> No.11637080

>>11637074
>>11637075
Why do all the BB Kai 2's look substantially worse than their original forms?

>> No.11637081

>>11637074
>>11637075
That's pretty fucking ugly.
Dyke/10

>> No.11637082

>>11637074
The ears work with her new hairstyle. 10/10 will remodel

>> No.11637083
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11637083

Eh, new hairstyle. It's okay.

>> No.11637086

>>11637074
>>11637075
Level required? 75 again?

>> No.11637093

>>11637075
100% more boyish. Not bad. Still, I prefer the old style once again.
What's her stock equip like ?

>> No.11637088

>>11637078
Wow, guy. Seek help. You're letting the existence of a ship girl bother you a bit too much.

>> No.11637089
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11637089

>>11637074
>>11637075
This means that Haruna will be the main character next time right?

Right?

>> No.11637090

>>11637074
>>11637075
Nice. So she lost her hairband? I like how she differs more than her original sprites compared to Kongou's.

>> No.11637091

>>11637082
Her ears look fucking huge.

>> No.11637092

>>11637074
She's even doing that pose.

>> No.11637095

Hiei is actually cute now.

>> No.11637096

>>11637083
Did someone say Hiei Time?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD_zcwkfu_E

>> No.11637100
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11637100

>>11637092

I think it's time.

>> No.11637101

They're making all the Kongous ugly.

Run for it Haruna!

>> No.11637103
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11637103

>>11637093
Comes with sanshiki

>> No.11637108

>>11637103
Damage sprite?

>> No.11637109

>>11637103

Kind of nice for those that surprisingly still don't have it.

>> No.11637110

Another BB I don't use gets an upgrade. Hoo fucking ray!

>> No.11637111

>>11637091
I actually like her how her huge dopey ears are serverly disproportioned to the rest of her body.

She looks a lot younger and tomboy-ish now.

>> No.11637112

Bollocks, just has to be the one I leveled the least.

>> No.11637115

Are the new furnitures out yet?

>> No.11637117

>>11637115
That's next week.

>> No.11637118
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11637118

shiratsuyu

>> No.11637119
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11637119

>> No.11637121

I almost couldn't notice Hiei without her wink.

>> No.11637122

>>11637119
What are you doing here Houki?

>> No.11637123

>>11637119

Well, I guess I really am going to do E-5 now.

>> No.11637125
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11637125

>>11637119
Yes, combine my fetishes...

>> No.11637126

>>11637092
>>11637100
Man, if there is one thing I miss about old Hiei, it is the the middle finger pose.
I like her new boyish charm, will definitely remodel.

>> No.11637129
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11637129

>>11637117
u w0t m8?

>> No.11637130

Imagine if the kai ni and kai sprites of the Kongous were reversed.

>> No.11637131

...And now everyone in practice is switching to Hiei. Level 55 like mine.

>> No.11637132

>>11637118
Wow, that's great. Would use her more. Too bad no stats increase.

>>11637119
So who is it?

>> No.11637134 [DELETED] 

>>11637118
>lvl41
Nice try dude. You are not fooling anyone.

>> No.11637137

>>11637134
It's not an upgrade you bafoon, it's just new art and sounds.

>> No.11637140
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11637140

This looks nice.

>> No.11637139

>>11637134
It's not a remodel, just new artwork.

>> No.11637142
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11637142

>> No.11637143

>>11637140
Bought it. Quite disappointed with the table furnitures 'tho, was hoping for something other than a mahjong table.

>> No.11637146

>>11637142

Loving the pose.

>> No.11637148

>>11637142
Better than Kongo's.

>> No.11637150
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11637150

>>11637140
Somewhat.

>> No.11637152

I assume it's safe to hit E5 now?

>> No.11637153

I can't believe I opened this thread after my Hiei sunk.

>> No.11637155

>>11637150
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bravo_Zulu

Interesting.

>> No.11637156

>>11637150
Anyone got a room picture with the mahjong table?

>> No.11637158

>>11637129
>not a Christmas tree
ehh.

>> No.11637157

>>11637150
Did you buy the new window as well? That room looks really comfy now.

>> No.11637159

>>11637155
Z flag is important to the Japs. It's Togo's signal used during the battle of Tsushima.

The Empire's fate depends on the result of this battle, let every man do his utmost duty.

>> No.11637160
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11637160

FUCKING RNG, how do they work?

Used around 20k fuel and ammo.
~180 buckets

>> No.11637161

>>11637157
No I didn't. Decided to save furniture fairy for something more to my liking.

>> No.11637171

Is maintenance over? I still can't login.

>> No.11637177

>>11637119
I might try to force my way into E5 through unsavory means for that. Her expression is great.

>> No.11637178

>>11637171
You were banned for F5 cheating.

>> No.11637180

>>11637171
You wa banned

>> No.11637183

>>11637171
Rest in peace.

>> No.11637184

Hahaha, Hiei's idle line is cute.

>> No.11637189

What level for Hiei kai2?
75 again? Time to grind her at E5.

>> No.11637193
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11637193

The new window looks nice.

>> No.11637195

>>11637193
Definitely buying

>> No.11637201

>>11637193
It does but I don't think any of the wallpapers we have would fit with its style..

>> No.11637202

Holy crap there was an update I didn't notice it at all...

>> No.11637213

>>11637201
The black one with the moon?

>> No.11637249

>>11637118
She looks like Yui Hirasawa.

>> No.11637250
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11637250

>>11637119
Wait what?

>> No.11637264

>>11637250
Yahagi Kai?

>> No.11637267

>>11637265
Those Japanese already got her? Jesus.

>> No.11637265
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11637265

>>11637119
>During the Battle of the Sibuyan Sea on 24 October 1944, the fleet endures 11 raids by over 250 Task Force 38 carrier aircraft from the USS Enterprise, USS Essex, USS Intrepid, USS Franklin, USS Lexington and USS Cabot. Although Japanese battleship Musashi was sunk and Yamato and Nagato were hit, Yahagi was unscathed.
I expected her to have more luck with a holo bg.

>> No.11637291
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11637291

So the new girl is E5 boss only, right? Or can she be obtained en-route just with a lower chance?

>> No.11637297

>>11637291
She's a holo rarity, what do you think?

>> No.11637302

>>11637297
I think Kadokawa is full of sadists.

>> No.11637312

What's that support expedition that people are using and it's showing great effect, 4bb2cv?

>> No.11637315

>>11637312
Yes. Try Musashi, Nagato, Mutsu, final upgrade Kongou and any two CV's, it works wonders!

>> No.11637319

>>11637315
Do I need to load the CV with pure red planes?

>> No.11637321

Man what the fuck

I'm having so much difficulty A Ranking E-5 now

>> No.11637323

Did they stealth change Kinugasa's 2nd remodel to something lower than 60? Or am I a retard for thinking it was 60 all along?

>> No.11637324

>>11637323
You're a retard for not reading the wiki and checking her remodel level that's for sure.

>> No.11637325

>>11637319
You can't even do a successful support expedition with that kind of fleet.

>> No.11637332

So how many people do you predict will get the new girl? rarer than Musashi?

>> No.11637333

>>11637332
5 S rank runs in now, still nothing.

>> No.11637335

>>11637332
A lot of people have gotten her on Futaba, a handful of them even found her on their first try. They're claiming that you can get her even with A rank victory.

>> No.11637346

>>11637332
I wouldnt be surprised if her drop rate is lower than Nagato.

>> No.11637352
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11637352

The nightmares are returning.

>> No.11637355

Just do sub-runs with support expedition, more often than not do you get A-ranks.

>> No.11637361

>>11637355
Don't the nodes before the boss have DD's that are equipped with full anti sub weaponry?

>> No.11637363
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11637363

>>11637361
If you make it past the first two nodes, nothing else can touch you.

>> No.11637374

>>11637355
CV or BB support?

>> No.11637376

>>11637374
Probably the more reliable 2bb2dd2cv. I never tried any other ones since I have no idea what their damage potential is like.

>> No.11637384

Why is getting an S rank so hard

>> No.11637385

>>11637384
Why is getting to the boss suddenly so hard. I had no problems what so ever when actually doing E5

>> No.11637387

Fuck this bullshit. All that ammo and fuel for 2 S ranks and a bunch of As. They're just CLs anyway, I'll just wait till they become craftable like Suzuya and Kumano.

>> No.11637389

>>11637385
If you're getting send NE regularly, try taking a high luck flagship like Shigure.

>> No.11637390

Unless you're bringing along three radars, middle route is best route.

>> No.11637391

>>11637390
I don't see what you can put in those spare BB and CA slots anyway. More placebo turbines?

>> No.11637392

>>11637391
Pussies put damage control on their BB.

>> No.11637393

>>11637391
He's the pussy admiral that puts repair crews on his ships.

>> No.11637396

At least I got a Naganami from my first S rank, A's drops are mediocre.

>> No.11637398

>>11637391
Repair crews if you're a pussy, AA guns if you want more stats

>> No.11637401

Do you sparkle your ships for E-5? I'm getting critted a lot.

>> No.11637404

>>11637401
Yeah

>> No.11637405

>>11637392
>>11637393

What are your loadouts anyway? You've got 2 Kongou-classes and possibly a CA, like Maya if you want that AA. 2 main guns and then what?

>> No.11637406

>>11637401
I never bothered, my ships performed well enough without sparkles.

>> No.11637407
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11637407

>> No.11637411

>>11637407
Faggot.

Is her voice less annoying than Agano?

>> No.11637412

>>11637407
FUCK YOU.

>> No.11637414

>>11637405
Kongou
2x46
radar
turbine

Maya
2x15.5
sanshiki
radar

CLT
2x15.5
minisub

Yukikaze/Shigure
3xtorpedo

>> No.11637419

>>11637407
now sink her
http://203.104.105.167/kcs/sound/kc139/22.mp3

>> No.11637420
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11637420

>>11637407

>> No.11637422

>>11637414
What's the difference between using sanshiki and a DP gun

>> No.11637433

>>11637390
How so? Is it easier than E-4s hell route of fucking flagship heavy cruisers all day every day?

>> No.11637436
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11637436

Perfect run? enjoy your NE faggot.

>> No.11637437

>>11637433
It's about the same difficulty as the top route since one of the battles is a joke with 5 clouds. And you don't have to deal with >>11637436

>> No.11637438

>>11637437
I dont have 6slow BBs

Do you run it with 6DD? How do you deal with the air raid?

>> No.11637439

>>11637438
Middle route's just same speed with less than two battleships. So just replace one of your Kongou classes with a high speed.

>> No.11637447
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11637447

Oh yeah, sure, listen to /jp/, ships don't sink in orange, everything will be fine!

>> No.11637448
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11637448

Was bored at work and typesetted this.
Enjoy some Yukikaze and Femtoku.

>> No.11637454

>>11637447
inb4 you actually have damecon on her

>> No.11637456

>>11637447
RIP. how much hp did she have?

>> No.11637457

>>11637454
I don't, now there's a hole in my fleet and I don't have 6 ships to run E5 with.

>> No.11637459

>>11637457
Time for sub runs with a support fleet.

>> No.11637460

>>11637447
But they don't.

>> No.11637463

>メンテまとめ
>比叡改二追加
>矢作追加(E5ボスA又はS勝利
>白露改グラ更新
>鈴熊コンビのE1~E3ボスにドロップ追加
>一部泊地の鯖強化
Not sure what's the last one about but apparently Suzuya and Kumano can now drop from E1 to E3.


>家具追加
>●晩秋の高級和窓
>●提督の麻雀宅 (※要家具職人)
>●Z旗の暖炉
>※「長門桐箪笥」は来週【11/27(水) 09:00】まで
New furniture and the Nagato model will be removed 1 week later.

>> No.11637465

>>11637463
>Suzuya
Fuck yes, time for E3 again if I manage to get this new girl.

>> No.11637464

>>11637447
How sure are you it wasn't actually red?

>> No.11637467

>>11637463
Last one are server upgrades.

>> No.11637468

>>11637463
>but apparently Suzuya and Kumano can now drop from E1 to E3.

You mean they couldn't before? Fucking fuck I've been wasting my time farming the wrong places.

>> No.11637471

>>11637464
I'm sure. Even if it was really low, it was still within orange.

>> No.11637475

>>11637471
Did you sortie while fatigued?

>> No.11637477

What was the rumored safe percentage, 30%?

>> No.11637482

>>11637477
I thought it was 33%.

>> No.11637483

>>11637477
Rumored is 33% but it might be 25%. I had a 12/43 (~28%) Kitakami who got hit by the E-5 boss but was left with 1 HP.

>> No.11637494

>>11637436
It's ironic that I hope for an enemy to hit one of my ships into yellow/orange just because of this.

>> No.11637500

>>11637494
It's even more ironic my best runs are those with 2 or 3 in moderate damage. Compared to when I have a full fleet of healthy ships.

>> No.11637504

>>11637500
>>11637494
Pretty sure the compasses for E4 and E5 are rigged to do that. Every time I have a perfect run in E4/5 the compass sends me to the not-boss node.

>> No.11637521

PvP got fucked up or something. My ships kept attacking the one that had 1HP. Went into night battle and Nagato somehow missed the 1HP ship with a cut-in and finished the battle.

>> No.11637529

>>11637521
that ship still have 1 hp left before you went in night battle.

>> No.11637534

>>11637529
But in PvP you beat the other ships when they hit 1HP. Two of my ships also attacked it and missed, and Musashi did a cut-in that also missed before Nagato's missed cut-in ended the battle.

>> No.11637539

So do you guys use Nagato-class or Yamato-class for support?

>> No.11637543

>>11637521
That's not uncommon.

>> No.11637547

>>11637534
you beat other ships when their hp become 0 but it'll show that they still have 1 hp left.

>> No.11637557
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11637557

Hiei now getting popular with the girls.

>> No.11637559 [SPOILER] 
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11637559

I jumped out of my chair when I got a holo background, but then it turned out to be this. Fuck.

>> No.11637560
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11637560

>>11637557
I wish there was more art of girls that fought together interacting, not only sisters + teitoku like most art is.

>> No.11637561

>>11637559
You're unhappy with a Nagato? I got a Yahagi but I'm still in the no-nagato club.

>> No.11637563

>>11637559
Fuck you.

>> No.11637565

>>11637559
You're doing E-5 grinding? Pray, do tell your setup and strat. Do you go middle route or top, and do you sparkle every time?

>> No.11637566 [SPOILER] 
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11637566

>>11637565
This but with a few more levels on everyone and Hibiki is now a Bep.

>> No.11637568

>>11637566
So you sparkle? And why sanshiki?

>> No.11637570

>>11637568
Sparkle them for serious runs, but I'm sparkling them now since I want to get this over and done with. Sanshiki or AA guns to take out the boss' planes.

>> No.11637572
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11637572

YES. 9 runs: 3 S, 3 A, 3 NE.

>> No.11637573

>>11637570
Your 46cms already act as AA.

>> No.11637574

>>11637573
Why not more? It's not like I have more 46cm or good radars.

>> No.11637575

Good god, leveling Iku is seriously easy.

Got her to lvl 10 yesterday and it's already 22 (and considering I slept for 8 hours...).

What I don't know is what is the role of a sub in a fleet.

>> No.11637576

>>11637572
Might as well put rocket launchers there.

>> No.11637577

How do you defeat the E5 boss?
One of my ships always end up in the red during the day battle so I don't enter the night battle.

>> No.11637578

>>11637572
I guess her drop rate is pretty high for a holo considering how many people aready got her.

>> No.11637580

>>11637576
meant to quote >>11637574

>> No.11637582

>>11637577
By entering night battle with your ship in red.

>> No.11637583

>>11637577
You just answered your own question.

>> No.11637585

>>11637575
Decoys for ships that can fire at them and pretty much immune to those that can't.

>> No.11637586

>>11637582
>>11637583
It's safe to enter the night battle with a red ship?

>> No.11637588

>>11637586
No, but you're not going to be finishing the boss anytime soon without taking risk.

>> No.11637589

>>11637586
High risk high return, never heard of this concept?

>> No.11637592

>>11637586
Yes, if your ship is not red before day battle. But red ships cant attack at night

>> No.11637598

>>11637586
How did you even get through E4 if you're being such a pussy about entering night combat with ships in red health?

>> No.11637601

>>11637588
>>11637589
More like high risk zero return.

As said by >>11637592
Ships can't attack at night.

>> No.11637606

>>11637601
Unless you need to finish her off, it's always worth going into night battle.

>> No.11637608

>>11637601
Do you even economics?

>> No.11637611

>>11637577
1) Orange ships dont sink
2) Ships that turn red from (orange/yellow/greeb) during the day dont sink
You can believe both of these statements or believe people like >>11637447
Extensive tests have been done to replicate sinking ships that arent heavily damaged and yet it never happened.

>> No.11637618

>>11637601
Please, you act as if the boss does something to you at night.

But it's your call, if you want to pussy out of night battle because one of your precious ships is in danger of getting hit she wont, be my guest.

Meanwhile I'll be here S-ranking the boss node and not getting Yahagi for the nth time.

>> No.11637620

>>11637611
and there is exactly as much proof for this 'extensive testing' as there is for the opposite

>> No.11637623

>>11637620
No there isn't, I have yet to see even one video evidence of your 'opposite'.

Try harder, newfag.

>> No.11637625

>>11637598
E4 starts at night combat, also I lost 5 damage control there while advancing at red.

>> No.11637627

>>11637618
>in danger of getting hit
I had my Ooi hit with a multi-hit cut-in or something and she didn't sink in red.

>> No.11637629

>>11637623
Please deliver your so called evidence to the contrary, i.e. ships in orange never sinking, now.

>> No.11637630

>>11637620
Where?

>> No.11637633

>>11637629
There's a whole bunch of videos on nicodouga, just search for the relevant keywords.

So where are your undisputable evidence for ships in orange hp sinking?

>> No.11637634

>>11637629
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Scn-eOYqNE
Just one of many

>> No.11637635

>>11637629
Go to youtube and search "艦これ 期間限定海域"

>> No.11637638
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11637638

Looks like I ain't hatin' any money on kadokawa's watch!

>> No.11637639

>>11637629
Still awaiting your so called evidence of ships sinking in orange.

>> No.11637643

>>11637638
Nice photoshop. Some of them aren't even properly aligned, for example the first on the right for the first row (assuming all 6 boxes are a row)

>> No.11637647

>>11637643
It's not a shop, I got that too

>> No.11637651

>>11637643
It's flash crashed in a browser, happens from time to time.

>> No.11637655

This should be convincing enough.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1_GDrO4f48
Red ships instantly went dead.
Orange ships magically gained evasion bonus and survived through night battle at 1hp.
Why do people still doubt this? Why are people falling for the devs bullshit?

>> No.11637658

>>11637629
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Scn-eOYqNE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlrz0HWqKsA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSRPAxBovP4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhuOM0pV4TA

Orange with fatigue. Since you say there's as much evidence on the contrary, I'd like to see it.

>> No.11637665

>>11637651
>>11637638
Can you take it out and use it?

>> No.11637667

>>11637658
Not the guy but you do realize only the sinkableness is provable right ? It's a completely sterile argument we're having there.

>> No.11637670

>>11637667
At least some of the videos are from before the flagship=red=forced-retreat change. who knows what else they changed?

>> No.11637671

>>11637667
How do you proof something that cant happen?

>> No.11637673
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11637673

First try! Hah. I thought I would have to go through compass and cut-in trolling hell again but it seems that she's really easy to get as long as you S-rank the boss, thank Christ. Also, you can tell when you get a ship you don't have since there's a slight delay before the card comes up which I believe is the server sending you the voice and art data. Not pictured: flagship Yukikaze

>> No.11637674

>>11637667
Do you even English?

We just want to see the so-called evidence of people claiming their ships sunk at orange.

>> No.11637677

>>11637673
>ha first try yahagi
>woo firfst try
>frist try bitches
>bitch first tryyyy
>NO ONE FUCKING CARES.

>> No.11637679
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11637679

Give me one good reason why I shouldn't use her as a throwaway DD.

>> No.11637680

>>11637677
All that jelly.

>> No.11637681

>>11637679
You can set her and another lv 1 DD along with other high leveled ships as your fleet while you PVP

>> No.11637682

>>11637679
You should, nobody cares

>> No.11637684

>>11637681
The best thing is her large sprite will still use the undamaged version even if she gets killed.

>> No.11637686
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11637686

>>11637679
You don't like her shitgrin?

>> No.11637688

Is there any point to me doing E-3 if there's no chance of me doing E-4?

>> No.11637690

>>11637688
E-3 is really easy if you CVs and holo planes.

>> No.11637691

>>11637688
repair team, repair goddess and furniture item are worth it imo
you might also find Agano

>> No.11637693

>>11637688
Furniture faeries. You may not want them now, but you will eventually want them.

>> No.11637697

>>11637688
Why not? It's piss easy and you get a boatload of uncraftables/undroppables.

21/60/20/131

>> No.11637698

To those who found Yahagi (or Nagato...) on E-5: did you S-rank the boss?

>> No.11637699

>4 fleets in pvp are 1 ship, 2 are 1 sub

fuck nips.

>> No.11637700

>>11637697
That recipe gave me nothing but 1* shit.

>> No.11637701

>>11637698
Yes.

>> No.11637704

>>11637698
It was an A-rank for me.

>> No.11637702

>>11637698

>>11637055 all the info you need

>> No.11637706

>>11637699
I would always get upset at people running subs, but once I got my own I found myself using them pretty much 90% of the time for resource runs.

>> No.11637708

Getting As with 4 sub and full support, 17 runs and just 2 agano so far.

>> No.11637709

>>11637700
I do at 5-10 crafts of it everyday and it never fails to yield at least one holo. Haven't gotten a Model 12A before, but gotten tons of Saiuns and Ryuusei Kais, with Reppus and Shiden Kai Ni being uncommon crafts. Ryuuseis are also seen occasionally.

>> No.11637710

>>11637706
All I do nowadays is pretty much switching between 2-3 and 3-2 runs. Heck, I don't even bother collecting the steel node nowadays in 3-2 and I still have over a hundred thousand.

>> No.11637713

>>11637708
No DD's?

>> No.11637711

>>11637575
it only gets hard after 75

>> No.11637715

>>11637701
>>11637704
Thanks
>>11637702
I know A-rank can get her, just wondering if there was a clear difference and all the ones getting her in 1-5 tries are S-rank. I've A-ranked the boss about 7 times but nothing nice yet.

>> No.11637716

>>11637713
Not yet, just kakudenda and light carriers

>> No.11637717

>>11637708
What's your support composition?

>> No.11637719

>>11637715
Try stacking Ryuusei Kais on your support CVLs. I S-ranked the boss in part because support dealt massive damage, killing 2 floating fortresses and severely damaging the armored princess and another fortress.

>> No.11637721

>>11637717
musashi 4 mains, nagato 4 mains, chitose+chidoya ryuusei blue plane stack and 2 dds

>> No.11637722

>>11637719
Did you use 2BB 2DD 2CVL or just 2DD 2CVL?

>> No.11637723

>>11637719
How does the animation of CV support fire look like? I have never tried it before, kinda curious.

>> No.11637726

>>11637723
bunch of plane shooting shit

>> No.11637727

>>11637723
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLG5NWCOmoE

>> No.11637731

>>11637727
Thanks, doesn't really look impressive to be honest.

>> No.11637732

>>11637722
I used the standard 2BB 2DD 2CVLs that the nips use. Nagato-class stacked with 2 46cms and 2 41cms each, CVLs stacked with Ryuusei Kais and the few Model 12As I got (it's slightly better attack-power wise). DDs were Yuudachi and Shimakaze stacked with 12.7cms (one Type B).

>>11637723
A lot of planes zipping about with thick streams of jets (funnily enough, since none of them are jet-powered). I don't use CV support though, because it's ineffective against the E-5 boss.

>> No.11637736

>>11637629
So when exactly are you going to post your indisputable evidence of ships in orange sinking?

>> No.11637737
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11637737

Everyone is talking about that new CL, make sure you don't forget the best one.

>> No.11637738

>>11637737
I disassembled her the moment I found a bunch of them.

>> No.11637739
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11637739

>>11637738
I'll sink you, fucker.

>> No.11637742

>>11637737
+1 armor +1 torpedo
otherwise useless

>> No.11637744
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11637744

>>11637742
I beg to differ, also best seiyuu, kuma~

>> No.11637747

>>11637744
pales compared to Isuzu Kai 2, Torpedo sisters and Agano class

>> No.11637748

>>11637744
Yahagi, my image of an ideal yamato nadeshiko.

Way better than that thing that goes "BEAR!~"

>> No.11637750
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11637750

>>11637747
Isuzu is ugly, Ooi has a lisp, Ktkm is fine and Agano a shit.

>playing for stats
Why not go and play SC2 or DotA if you want to tryhard faglord?

>> No.11637751

>>11637750
I like Isuzu's design. But still not one of my favorite designs.

Design-wise, I'd go with Bep as my #1.

>> No.11637752

>>11637750
Why are you so upset about what other people think? Just use whoever you like, nothing else matters.

>> No.11637753

>>11637750
Then why bring up Kuma's stats, turbonerd?

>> No.11637755

>>11637750
look at how stupid you and your statements are.

>> No.11637754

>>11637750
I was going to agree until
>Agano.
Nope.

>> No.11637757

>>11637753
Because I could tell that you were an autist.

>> No.11637758

>>11637750
Please Kuma, it's not like you have decent-looking artwork either.

>> No.11637759

>>11637757
And I could tell you're backpedaling pretty hard right now.

>> No.11637761

I wanted to focus on Naka but her stats arent that good

So I settle for Sendai

>> No.11637764

>>11637761
Fuck you, Naka best girl ever.

>> No.11637766

As a new admiral who is constanly low on steel because of crafting, should i send my subs to 2-1 for the steel node since I don't have access to 3-2?

>> No.11637771

>>11637766
You should just take it easy and let it regenerate, when you clear 2-4 you can go full autist on the 3-2 node and not be wasting time.

>> No.11637772

Wish I hadn't used all my steel on a crafting spree after getting Musashi, I A-ranked E-5 about 10 times just now and got nothing, now I'm out of steel.

>> No.11637773

>>11637766
Since you have more than one sub you might as well cheese through 2-4 and then work 3-2. And maybe stop crafting so much if it's running you dry. You don't have to rush like that.

>> No.11637776

>>11637772
1 week anon.

>> No.11637778

What's the consensus on saiun ? is it really bad ?

>> No.11637779

>>11637771
>>11637773
I don't think I can stop crafting after investing so much, I'm doing it out of spite now that I've failed to craft Yukikaze about 70 times.

>> No.11637780

>>11637776
Yeah, I'll just save up and give it another shot sometime. Can't get much though because my exams are soon and I need to study.

>> No.11637783

>>11637778
bad. it is only useful if you don't have enough firepower to s rank the boss node. the irony about saiun is, CV attack during shelling phase isn't affected by tcross

>> No.11637785

>>11637778
it's situational

and you only need one

>> No.11637789

I swear RNG is fucking with me now
I got 10 Sendais from drops and crafting in a row after spending 5 days trying to get one to finish the 2nd fleet quest

>> No.11637792

>>11637483
25% is red, isn't it?

>> No.11637793

>>11637792
100% is green, 99-76% is pale green, 75-51% is yellow, 50-26% is orange, 25-1% is red
at least that's the way I see it

>> No.11637797

>>11637793
That's what I always thought too, but there's always a couple nerds bringing up 25% in the orange ship sinking discussion as if that means anything when it's just red.

>> No.11637799

>>11637797
from what I saw, the game sometimes rounds badly and depending on HP, 25% still displays as orange but is, in terms of mechanics, actually red, which explains the "sinking in orange"

>> No.11637804
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11637804

So got an S-rank in E-5, this happens. Seriously, I wouldn't of minded another Nagato but WHY HER?

>> No.11637809

>>11637799
It makes no sense for the game to have two different system for rounding for the HP to determine the internal health state vs the displayed health state. If there's a screenshot or video showing otherwise, then I guess that's just how the devs like to fool around.

>>11637804
Not liking Wagahai is a crime.

>> No.11637810

Can you actually use Minisubs as a torpedo for the purpose of cut-ins on subs? I know using 2x torpedo works for that but what about 1x torpedo 1x minisub or 2x minisub?

>> No.11637811

>>11637809
its called shoddy coding. Rounding errors exist in almost any game and especially in flash based games.
just to be safe, divide your ships max HP by 4 and add 1-2 points to determine what the safe level is

>> No.11637812

>>11637810
wiki

>> No.11637815

>>11637809
Give me a few examples of a ship that's supposed to be in red but is still orange. HP Values included and I'll test it out.

Otherwise, I havn't encountered this at all throughout my 6728 sorties. Yes, I'm also a devil for proceeding on even when half my fleet is in red.

>> No.11637823

>>11637815
rounding errors don't \always\ happen. I saw it happen once or twice in around 2000 sorties, mostly with ships above 40 HP.
When it happens you probably don't even notice it because its just a 1 HP difference

>> No.11637825

>>11637815
I think you meant to quote >>11637811

>> No.11637857

>>11637772
A-rank is bad anon.
Better rev up those support expedition anon.

>> No.11637861

>>11637086
>>11637189
Yes, it is 75. A pleasant surprise since mine was 73 already.

She looks like Idolm@ster's Makoto, glad to see this turns out better than Kongou.

>> No.11637884

So will people that didn't have the luck to play when this first started be able to get Yamato one day? Or Musashi.

>> No.11637889

>>11637884
No.

>> No.11637890

>>11637884
No

>> No.11637891

>>11637884
Yamato is craftable after this event, you need all 4 development docks unlocked though.

>> No.11637893

>>11637891
Not just docks, a cash shop development material for each attempt as well.

>> No.11637894

What in the world triggers day battle with the boss at E-2?

Also I just finished E-2's boss gauge and then the next times I sortie the first node decides to throw out those elite torpedo cruisers at me and do cut-ins every time

>> No.11637895

>>11637891
>>11637893
source or its just sugoi bullshit

>> No.11637898

>>11637894
Read the wiki.

>> No.11637899

>>11637895
You should have followed the tweets

>> No.11637900

>>11637894
Not killing the 2nd and 3rd slot ships triggers day battle

>> No.11637902

>>11637891
Grad I already got Yamato in Summer event.

>> No.11637907

>>11637899
they didn't mention about 4 docks

>> No.11637915

I wish I can trade Musashi for Yamato.
I dont like slut.

>> No.11637916

>>11637899
if said tweet exists, feel free to link to it
no copy pasta, a link to the tweet on the official account

>> No.11637917

>>11637902
Just a question, according to wiki the support expeditions have 3 types of support, and the damage for torpedo and shelling is stated so what affects the damage of the aerial support or is this unknown?

>> No.11637923

>>11637917
whoops, did not meant to reply, sorry about that

>> No.11637931
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11637931

much better

>> No.11637941

>>11637931
Her older hairstyle really is such an improvement over her new chemo-patient look.

>> No.11637945

Who's sluttier and rarer, Kumano or Suzuya?

>> No.11637948

>>11637945
Suzuya is sluttier, Kumano is rarer

>> No.11637954

>>11637931
Her skirt's now shorter and she lost her pantyhose. I'm not sure how to feel about Hiei's new look now.

>> No.11637975

You want Yahagi or Nagato? Nope, enjoy your CVL.

>> No.11637989
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11637989

what does this mean?

>> No.11637993

>>11637989
need more ship space

>> No.11638000

>>11637989
time to abandon your least favourite shipdaughters

>> No.11638003
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>>11638000
>>11637993
thanks. I finally got off my butt to try e2, and have been having random cut ins hit for red damage. the other times I tried my ships killed the elite before day phase, so that didn't go well.

>> No.11638004

how easy is E-3 compared to E-2?

I have about 5k fuel and 89 buckets, should I challenge E-3 or just leave it be and not bother about the event anymore?

>> No.11638011

>>11638004
depends on your fleet

>> No.11638014

>>11638004
If you have CV or CVL and both the torpedo cruiser then it is a cakewalk. You can basically perfect S all the south node and the first north node.

>> No.11638016

>>11638011
my standard fleet is 2 Kongou class, Akagi, ktkm and ooi, and a random ship(usually hibiki or a DD)

>> No.11638017
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11638017

Fuck yeah, got Yahagi.

>> No.11638023

>>11638017
Congrats. So far all I got is Nachi and Kitakami.

At least they're kind enough to make her drop on A rank.

>> No.11638030

>>11638016
2 BB is bad for E-3, and stronger AA forces wouldn't hurt to have either.

>> No.11638031
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>>11638023
You should really try to S rank it. Save your time. I think I should have exhausted all the gold drop available in E5. I can feel the next holo drop coming.

>> No.11638034

>>11638031
Sadly I'm still missing Agano, though I already have Yahagi. Not sure if I want to continue farming E-5 for her.

>> No.11638036

>>11638031
It's not like you can really help it, can you? Sometimes your fleet just doesn't feel like killing all of them.

>> No.11638037

>>11638036
By hating resources and use support?

>> No.11638038

>>11638031
RNG loves to play with me. I've gotten S rank twice in a row without anything dropping for me.

>> No.11638044

>>11638038
Is your equipment capacity full?

>> No.11638048

>>11638037
Oh I'm hating the shit out of resources with Musashi support fleets. But sometimes Haruna goes "nah" and makes a double attack that hits for 4 damage, and the rest of the fleet thinks it's a good idea and does the same.

>> No.11638059

>>11638048
I feel your pain. Boss at 100 hp and ktkm cut-in dealt 60 damage. I don't have this many problems when I completed the map.

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11638060

Fuck yeah! Are you jelly yet peasants?

>> No.11638061
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11638061

So...this just happened while sparling Ooi on 1-1.

>> No.11638064

>>11638044
No. They just return to base right after the battle report. And those were clean runs too.

I'll probably just try again when near the deadline.

>> No.11638069 [DELETED] 

>>11638060
A or S rank ?

>> No.11638073 [DELETED] 

>>11638069
Except that isn't me, heh.

>> No.11638078
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11638078

>>11638059
At least we don't have to worry about regenerating health bar this time.

>>11638064
I don't understand how that could happen. Boss nodes will always drop something, unless your ship capacity is full. In that case you wouldn't even have been able to enter the event map in the first place.

>> No.11638080 [DELETED] 

>>11638069
S Rank in 4 runs.
>>11638073
Don't have to pretend you're me when you're just an anon.

>> No.11638081 [DELETED] 

>>11638080
Yet you probably have no idea what your admiral level is huh, or your resources for that matter.

>> No.11638082

Fuck, now I have to try to clear E-4.

>> No.11638087

Anyone else getting frequently diverted to NE in E-5? I've only managed reach the boss 4 out of 12 tries, it wasn't that bad when I was clearing the event.

>> No.11638090 [DELETED] 

>>11638081
Trying so hard, why? Anyone with even a little bit of intellect would know that's one type of trick questions people usually ask when they're tryhards at something.

>> No.11638091

Will they ever reward us with free maximum ship ownable expansions?

>> No.11638092 [DELETED] 

>>11638090
Says the one impersonating. But whatever, more amused you went out of your way to pretend you are someone you are not.

>> No.11638098 [DELETED] 

>>11638090
In fact. Considering it has been at least 2 weeks and you are still going at it, I have to give you credit for putting this much effort and time into this charade.

>> No.11638095

>>11638091
no, and they are going to add ships so you have more and more need to buy the extension

>> No.11638097

>>11638087
try putting yukikaze as flagship, the stench of familial death on her will draw out yahagi

>> No.11638100

>>11638095
God dammit Kadokawa.

>> No.11638102

>>11638097
That's pretty dark, mang.

>> No.11638105

>>11638087
3 out of 3 here.
I think it is all about luck. From my observation the compass spin at about 2/3 bias toward SE.

>> No.11638108

>>11638087
It's just luck.

Unfortunately NE is still the go-to path if you want to S rank the fight.

>> No.11638109

>>11638087
I used the north route when I completed the event. Now with the extremely expensive support fleet, I'm choosing to go the middle route instead.

>> No.11638111

Why did all these disgusting crossboarders suddenly appear in /jp/?

>> No.11638116

>>11638111
Suddenly? Where have you been for the last 3 months?

>> No.11638120

>>11638116
>3 months

>> No.11638122

>>11638116
On other boards, probably.

>> No.11638123

>>11638111
Where have you been since 2010?

>> No.11638128

>>11638120
I'm referring to the threads, obviously.

>> No.11638131

http://miku39.jp/blog/wp/?page_id=1705
Anyone using this?

>> No.11638138

>>11638131
Sanaechan or even that KancolleViewer is way better.

>> No.11638144 [DELETED] 

TheLenrir got Yahagi in only 4 tries. My kancolle idol of the year.

>> No.11638149 [DELETED] 

>>11638144
That's right, now that the impersonator isn't around. Getting it in only 4 tries, you people probably can't do any better, heh.

>> No.11638158 [DELETED] 

>>11638149
Also, I set up a perfect alibi for myself that anyone that uses my name here is an impersonator because I can't lie on the Internet!

>> No.11638162
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11638162

Uh.... so I got her, but isn't she supposed to have a holo BG?

>> No.11638165

>>11638162
You got a bootleg.

>> No.11638166

>>11638162
Your Yahagi is now a common drop because every teitoko has her. Enjoy your hand-me-downs!

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11638168

>>11638165
>>11638166

Phew, thought the game fucked up when I opened the menu and it said her name was なし. Reopened it and all was fine.

>> No.11638173

>>11638168
Congratulations!

>> No.11638199

Oh god Yahagi's laughter is a glorious thing to behold.

>> No.11638212

what's best ship comp to finish e2?

>> No.11638224

>>11638212
All DDs.

>> No.11638227

>>11637577 here, finally cleared E5. Sadly no Agano or Yahagi drops.
Thanks to everyone that told me that entering night battles with red ships is safe.

>> No.11638228

>>11638212
Yamato, Musashi, Nagato, Mutsu, Kongou k2, Hiei k2

>> No.11638248

>>11638228
No, no. The correct comp is Akagi, Kaga, Souryuu, Hiryuu, Shoukaku, Zuikaku. Holo planes on everyone is a MUST.

>> No.11638257

>>11638248
Not just any holo planes. 4x Ryuusei Kai on all of them.

>> No.11638265

>>11638248
Will new red plane expedition quest be removed at 27th?

>> No.11638282

So how do I use Kancolleviewer or Sanaechan? I get the general idea of what they do.

any help appreciated

>> No.11638298

>>11638265
Not from what I've heard, no.

>> No.11638380

That girl with the headband and brown hair is the main character of this game right?

>> No.11638384

>>11638380
no

>> No.11638388

>>11638384
Then is it that girl with blonde hair?

>> No.11638395

"Main character"
doing it wrong
very wrong

>> No.11638421
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11638421

>>11638380
It's the girl with the headband and long grey hair.

>> No.11638424

>>11638380
No.
The main character is that plain faced girl who looks like 20 other girls.

>> No.11638434

>>11638421
Haruna will get CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT'd for her Kai Nii sprite, mark my words

>> No.11638438

>>11638380
It's Nakachan.

>> No.11638440

>>11638380
The compass is the main character.

>> No.11638448

>>11638434
I hope she get one at all.
But for some reason, if all Kongous are to get a kai2, I feel Kirishima and Haruna can make the best out of it, unlike Monkeygou and Hiei-kun.

>> No.11638462
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11638462

>>11638448
I wouldn't count on it. They are all definitely gonna get the monkey treatment. My poor Haruna ;_;

>> No.11638502

>>11638462
Actually I'm leveling a second set of Kongous now, just to keep using the old sprites when I can.

But man, those kai2 are sucking my steel badly. I recently remodeled Musashi too.

>> No.11638534

15 runs in E7, 2 S rank, 4 A rank. No Yagahi or anything noteworthy.
I guess it will be the same suffering like in E5. This game man...

>> No.11638540

>>11638534
About 12 E-7 runs for me. 3 S rank, 4 A rank or so. Got a holo BG and it turned out to be Mutsu.

>> No.11638567

>>11638462
Well now that the event is over Haruna can go back to begging for attention like a dog going after table scraps.

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>> No.11638581

Is the admiral's gender ambiguous, or is it completely certain that it's a guy?
I want to be a cute girl admiral.

>> No.11638583

>>11638576
KTKM will always be a lesbian, always.

>> No.11638588

>>11638581
You can choose your gender at the start. But not like it matters ingame.

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11638590

>>11638567
Well at least Haruna didn't end up getting a sex change just to be popular.

>> No.11638596

>>11638583
Been trying to get Ooi for three weeks now. Its completely impossible to find her. makes me sad

>> No.11638600

>>11638588
I thought that was for dmm in general.

>> No.11638601

>>11638576
This looks like Ooi is munching on Kitakami's hair.

>> No.11638604

>>11638596
Got too many Oois, but no subs or Beavers.

>> No.11638608

>>11638604
please, for the sake of my sanity, PLEASE tell me where you get all those Oois.
;_;

>> No.11638609

>>11638608
2-2 and 2-3.

>> No.11638610

>>11638604
Beaver is hit or miss for me. I love her but it's like her luck makes the damage she doesn't take hit my BB's and it's saddening.

>> No.11638612

>>11638609
which nodes? I've been doing 2-2 and 2-3 a LOT with my subs and never seen her

>> No.11638613

>>11638612
Well, usually boss nodes with S rank.

>> No.11638620

>>11638613
compass-chan usually trolls me and doesn't let me go to the boss

>> No.11638621

>>11638612
I've had her drop on 3-3 first node.

>> No.11638622

>>11638620
Usually it's the other way for me. When I try doing the transport ship weeklies I always get sent to the boss node.

>> No.11638624

>>11638621
haven't unlocked 3-3 yet and I probably won't for a while.

>> No.11638626
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11638626

Finally. I thought she was rare but whatever.

>> No.11638635

>>11638620

Run it with your leveling fleet instead of 3-2-A. You need to sortie a lot because the compass will do that.

>> No.11638640

>>11638635
2-4 tends to be better for the leveling fleet because of higher exp and Ooi basically in every node but the carrier ones which I won't do anyway

>> No.11638641

>>11638624
3-2 works fine on the grinding node if oyu already have it, too

>> No.11638649

>>11638641
I don't see Ooi on any drop list for 3-2-A, not on any of the 3 wikis

>> No.11638656

Can you ever hit an enemy sub with the opening torpedo salvo? If not, why the hell do they even fire?

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>> No.11638661

>>11638626
>Rare

>> No.11638667

>>11638649
Just do 2-4 with subs, she's on pretty much every node

>> No.11638668

>>11638649
I'm pretty sure I got some while grinding there

>> No.11638669

>>11638656
subs can't be hit by torpedos. ever. Not from any kind or anyone.

>> No.11638675

>>11638668
I did 3-2-A over 400 times and haven't seen her there. She does drop in 3-1, 3-3 and 3-4

>> No.11638676

>>11638659
meant for >>11638656

>> No.11638677

Please tell me the secrets to E-4.
I've had to retreat 10 times in a row because of torpedoes getting atleast 1 ship to red.

>> No.11638680

>>11638677
You don't retreat.

>> No.11638681

>>11638669
Right, that's what I thought. So why does ktkm/ooi still fire an opening torpedo salvo against a full fleet of enemy subs?

>> No.11638682

>>11638677
Equip everyone with 3 turbines.

>> No.11638688

>>11638686
Equip them with damage controls.

>> No.11638685

>>11638677
Don't have shit luck.

>> No.11638686

>>11638680
And let my red ships sink?
Idunno about that I'm scared.

>> No.11638689

>>11638686
do you want hachi, or do you want to keep your sinking nonrare ships?

>> No.11638692

>>11638677
Give up and try again on another day.
I failed to clear E-4 once after 13 hours, 20k resources and 3 emergency repairs and cleared it with 8k resources used and 6 hours leisurly 4 days later.

>> No.11638693
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11638693

I don't think anyone posted her damaged sprite yet so here it is.

>> No.11638694

>>11638675
well, my memory might be wrong. But I was pretty sure up to now.

>> No.11638695

>>11638688
I don't want have money.

>>11638689
But I've already bonded with these ships...

>> No.11638700

>>11638694
6 Kongou, 12 Haruna, 3 Hiei, 5 Kirishima, 6 Soryuu ( all gold drops ) and countless garbage and no Ooi, so I think you really do remember it wrong.

>> No.11638701

>>11638695

What the hell did you do with about 7 of them that quests give you?

>> No.11638766

>>11638695
bonds can be reformed with their clones

>> No.11638778

>>11638700
He's not wrong, I've also gotten plenty of Oois from 3-2-A. I picked up 2 Oois in one run yesterday clearing 3-4 though.

>> No.11638783

>>11638700
Telling someone who who played longer than you that he's wrong or your luck is just shit. Hmm.

>> No.11638787

>>11638783
Just like all the people contributing to the wiki must be wrong too then, especially since everyone and their mom farms 3-2-A.
Or maybe he and >>11638778 are wrong.
Who do I believe, hundreds if not thousands of japanese and foreign players or two people on /jp/? I think that's a pretty obvious choice.

>> No.11638799

Are there masochists that actually want Yahagi to be a .00000001% drop just because she's a holo?

>> No.11638805

>>11638799
she's 1%, double with S, just like agano, except only on map5

>> No.11638819

>>11638805
I wish they doubled other rarer ship droprates there too, maybe I would have a chance at Nagato then.

>> No.11638831

Which is the most forgettable ship?

>> No.11638835

>>11638831
The main heroine.

>> No.11638836

>>11638831
It's.. Damn, I have her name on the tip of my tongue...

>> No.11638837

>>11638831
I had someone in mind but I forgot

>> No.11638841

>>11638831
<Fubuki class> <Mutsuki class> <Ayanami class> <Asahio class> <Kagerou class except beaver>

>> No.11638846

>>11638841
>Mutsuki
Kisaragi, Mutsuki, Kikuzuki,Mochizuki,Satsuki and another one that I cannot name it without looking to her sprite.

Mutsuki class is used very commonly.

>> No.11638887
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11638887

and it's Zuikaku's turn to get the makeover.

>> No.11638948

>>11638887
I'd pay a few hundred yen for that.

>> No.11638976

I got so fucking excited when a hollow background appeared on E7.
Turned out it's just Mutsu.

>> No.11638980

I'm starting to believe I'm blessed by the RNG goddess fellow Admirals.

started doing E-3 today and got it down to 40% in less than 10 runs in the 3 times it sent me straight to the boss from the south.

>> No.11638993

>>11638980
While it's good to stay positive, I think most /jp/ beat E-3 in 2~3 hours; some even less than that.

>> No.11638994

>>11638980
When you get an Agano is the only time RNG truly smiles at you.

>> No.11638996

>>11638993
Speak for yourselves. It's taken me 3 days because I have no good CV's except for Akagi and no Ooi or KTKM.

>> No.11638997

>>11638996
You just happen to be a scrub admiral, admiral. By "most", I was referring to everyone else who were properly equipped for E-3.

>> No.11639002

>>11638997
It's not my fault RNG has never been good to me.

>> No.11639005

Still leveling my Ooi, level 34 right now, Kitakami is 59, Akagi is 45 and Junyou is 52
who else should I take to E-3? Plan to go there once Ooi hits 50
I have a 40+ Shimakaze, Kongou, Hiei, 50+ Chitose, Chiyoda, Takao, Atago and a lvl 37 Noshiro. I assume subs are useless in E-3 but I do have all 3 at lvl 60+

>> No.11639029

>>11639005
2CLT, 2 CV(L), 1 BB, 1 BBV/CAV. Last time I read the Japanese wiki, a BBV or CAV prevents the NE node on the Northern route. Well that'd be ideal, but since you don't seem to have a BBV or a CAV, go with a CA/CL/DD instead and see what happens.

>>11639002
You shouldn't really be talking about RNG not getting you the ships, if you haven't played for longer than at least 3~4 weeks (before the event had started). If you've been playing longer than that without coming across a single Kitakami, then I don't know what to say.

>> No.11639046

>>11639029
I have Ise and Hyuuga but they're not even lvl 20. I think Hyuuga is 16. I also have Fusou and Yamashiro but they're not leveled at all. Mogami isn't leveled either. tbh I don't have the time to grind up a BBV to E-3 status since I already have to grind Ooi.

>> No.11639051

>>11639046
I started E-3 with a level 16 Ise and she is doing great

I'm counting on beating E-3 in a few hours with minimal resource loss,

>> No.11639109

>>11639029
>>11639046
Just bring 3CV/L
Make it easier for you to perfect S all the nodes. There is no need for a second BB.

>> No.11639116

>>11639109
Not sure if that will lead to boss node.

>> No.11639119

>>11639116
You just need to not have more than 1BB to avoid the north end node..
The SE end node is random.

>> No.11639141

Are Souryuu and Hiryuu good carriers on their own or will they be forever overshadowed by Kaga and Akagi?

>> No.11639153

>>11639141
their consumption is lower but they have worse stats. They're not bad alternatives imo, but among the standard carriers they're probably the "worst", even though they're by no means "bad"

>> No.11639155

>>11639141

I prefer Hiryuu when facing enemy carriers.

>> No.11639163

>>11639141
I don't use carriers since I consider using carriers to be cheating.

>> No.11639172

>>11639163
have fun getting your face kicked in regularly

>> No.11639175

I'm farming some sub exp on 2-3 with Imuya and Iku. Which formation should I use?

>> No.11639176

>>11639172
You should try it sometime.
Then maybe you can get skilled at this game like me.

>> No.11639178

There's only one formation possible with 2 ships.

>> No.11639180

>>11639176
>Rng game
>Skills

>> No.11639196

>>11639163
Carrier is OP in real life and in the game.
Japan lost the war because of insufficient carriers. If they didnt waste all their resources on useless ships like Yamato and Musashi and built more carriers perhaps history would be different.

>> No.11639203

>>11639196
You just don't have enough nipponese spirit.

>> No.11639205

>>11639176
*skilled
*who hits what is random
*whether they hit is random
*how hard they hit is random
*what enemies you get is random
*where you go is random
*what ships or equipment you get is random

yeah, you're definitely "skilled at kancolle"
I don't even have words for how stupid that claim is, even if its made ironically.

>>11639175
if you go sub only you need 4 subs to pick any formation to begin with

>> No.11639208

>>11639163
Carriers aren't cheating, they're perfectly balanced.

Subs, on the other hand...

>> No.11639220

>>11639176
This would have been a 10/10 bait if you'd named yourself TheLenrir, I'll give you a 8/10 for effort now.

>> No.11639221

>>11639175
what are you talking about, you can't make formations with only two ships

>> No.11639243

>>11639196

Japan ran out of planes before they ran out of carriers. Then when they realized they were out of planes they decided to crash the few they had left into things.

>> No.11639321

The wiki wasn't specific on this. If I have a ship that wasn't damaged in one node but became moderately damaged, would they be sinkable in the next node or do they remain unsinkable for the entire sortie?

>> No.11639322

What ship do you think is the most commonly found ship on the sea floor?

>> No.11639335

>>11639322
ktkm

>> No.11639339

>>11639322
>>11639335
Definitely KTKM
I just PVP a lvl90 teitoku who put a pre lvl50 KTKM as his flagship.

>> No.11639341

>>11639321
Some people say moderately damaged ships sink and other people say they won't. It's up to you to continue, but unless they're not at all fatigued before you start I think it's safe to continue.

>> No.11639344

>>11639321
The wiki isn't specific because no one actually knows the answer. The best we have is, as the other anon put it, that it's probably safe.

>> No.11639353

>>11639321
The only thing you need to know is you do not advance into new node with red ships.
Even night battle is safe.
There are no instances of people losing their ships otherwise. All we have are claims by random anon who have no video or pictorial proof. You can trust them if you are paranoid.
As of today, testing done to replicate losing ships at moderate damaged or night battle with red ships have all failed because the game doesnt allow it to happen.

>> No.11639358

My fleet keeps getting raped on the way to boss node on E-3. How is this map supposedly a "breather?"

>> No.11639361

>>11639358
I just cleared it a while ago it sure felt less RNG heavy than E-2

>> No.11639363

>>11639358
Could be your fleet composition.

>> No.11639371

>>11639363
Don't really know if its a composition problem when my ships almost always go red on either the first or second node.

>>11639361
RNG has always been the bane of my existence ever since I started this so my hats off to you.

>> No.11639373

>>11639358
Use diamond formation on the submarine node instead of horizontal.

>> No.11639394

>>11639373
Horizontal works fine for me. You could even go the whole route with just that if your carriers are decently equipped.

>> No.11639410

>>11639394
Horizontal is great if you dont get hit. Just 1crit and you are gone. Diamond provide a huge safety margin.

>> No.11639420

>>11639410
I actually see the subs only about 1/3rd of the time when hitting the sub node.

>> No.11639421

>>11639371
If your ship goes on red that early, it's your issue.

>> No.11639432

>>11639410
Horizontal has the best evasion, defense and anti-sub. The only time you'd use ring instead is when you're facing carrier-heavy fleets.

>> No.11639440

horizontal is day evasion, ladder is night evasion, as discussed across all Japanese kancolle boards and wiki.

>> No.11639448

>>11639421
Great advice, lord admiral. I will certainly take it into heart.

Anyways, I still can't get past this stupid map without anyone not going into the red. I'm done for the night. Hopefully tomorrow RNG won't be as much of a sadist.

>> No.11639453

>>11639448
Don't blame RNG, blame your own lack of skill, proper planning, and military insight.

>> No.11639461

>>11639448
Its because your APM and map awareness is low

>> No.11639469

>>11639448
Build more carriers turbonoob.

>> No.11639471

>>11639453
Should I blame myself as well, for not having killed Henderson-chan after over 130 sorties and almost 30k ressources?

>> No.11639480

>>11639471
The first step to redemption is acknowledgment of your past mistakes.

>> No.11639484

>>11639471
Yes.
130sorties is fucking a lot. RNG balances itself out with such a huge number of sorties. It is your own lack of skill, terrible fleet composition and horrible formation choice that lead to your failure to kill henderson-chan.

>> No.11639489

>>11639484
Good to know. Any tips for improvement, then?

>> No.11639496

>>11639489
Ask TheLenrir.

>> No.11639510

>>11639489
We don't know what you did wrong. You don't know what you did wrong. If you already consulted the proper sources and made every possible improvement, the only thing to do is try again another time.

>> No.11639530

>>11639471
You aren't hovering your mouse over the right targets fast enough.

>> No.11639534

>>11639489
Are you sparkling your fleet? I swear it increases the chances of your ships targeting the right ships so you don't get shot back at.

>> No.11639613

>>11639534
Tried sparkling but it didn't feel different for me.

>>11639530
Wow, other people do that as well? Too bad it only works 3/10 times on normal nodes and 0/10 times on the boss.

>>11639510
>try again another time.
Yes, I need sleep. And then I will thoroughly revisit my strategy and hope to consolidate enough resources for a final push.

>> No.11639640
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Is it supposed to take 100 buckets over 5 days to beat E2?

>> No.11639659
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11639659

Oh my. I'm planning to buy some Kan Colle illustration books, so of course I turned my eyes towards the official ones. I just went to Amazon JP and read the Hakusho's reviews, and they were pretty harsh. What does /jp/ think? Do you feel the Hakusho is worth it for the larger prints of the kanmusu alone?

Also, besides Teitoku no Natsuyasumi, are there any illustration books, official or unofficial, worth getting?

>> No.11639662

>>11639640
stop using such high levels. most level 1 DDs can kill anything besides the boss. no reason to waste buckets on them.
DD/DD/DD/DD/CA/CA, or use CLT instead of CA.

if you have anyone equipped with torpedos, fix it.

>> No.11639663

>>11639659
The first (and only) printing so far was filled with terrible typos and mistakes. Buy it now if you want to go for it becoming "rare" in the future, or wait for the second, revised printing with all the mistakes fixed.

>> No.11639671

>>11639662
Not him, but I use a Shigure equipped with torpedoes. Her cut-ins hit for about 500 (hit boss twice already, but now RNG seems to hate me and keeps sending me north).

>> No.11639678

>>11639662
Are torpedos bad? Why so?

>> No.11639687

>>11639678
Double attack setups trigger far more reliably. You also get two chances to actually hit the enemy, and a single hit in yasen is generally enough to kill.

Only yukikaze and shigure kai 2 can trigger cut-ins regularly because of their insane luck.

>> No.11639689

>>11639671
>>11639678
relying on cut-ins is just putting you at the mercy of the RNG even more. a CA/CLT double-attack one-shots the boss, and DD double-attacks one-shot everything else.

>> No.11639691

>>11639663
Ah, the fabled revised edition is still not out? I see. I remember hearing about how terrible the mistakes were and how a revised version ought to be out, and that was something like a month ago when the book was mentioned in these threads. I guess I'll wait for the revised edition for Hakusho, then. Thanks.

I didn't want to spoil myself, so I still haven't looked at Natsuyasumi scans. Besides Shibafu and Shizuma, who else illustrated for the book?

>> No.11639698

>>11639687
I had trouble getting damage on double attack when I tried it before. Will baby DDs really be strong enough to?

>>11639689
Oh. Okay. I guess I'll try it out because I only have 8 buckets left. Luckily the boss has no hp left.

>> No.11639699

>>11639691
Revised edition has been announced, release date is still TBA.

>> No.11639701

>>11639699
Much appreciated.

>> No.11639707

>>11639698
Double attack uses the sum of firepower and torpedo damage as the base damage since it's night battle. It's generally enough. Relying on torpedoes won't help your damage output anyways.

CAs are still the preferred ship class for night battles though.

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>>11639707
I see. What do I do about such low evasion? Just pray?

>> No.11639719

>>11639678
Torpedo is only useful if it is day battle like E-5 since you get a torpedo phase at the end of day battle.
In E-2 where you generally want to 1shot everything and not count on day battle, go for double attack.

>> No.11639721

>>11639711
evasion isn't a real stat

>> No.11639728

>>11639721
Then I will rephrase. Am I supposed to be able to clear a node without getting hit with such low level girls?

>> No.11639730

>>11639728
Sparkle them and if you REALLY want to beat it fast, use them as disposable ships.

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>>11639728
It's really not hard to do.

>> No.11639734

>>11639730
D-disposable? That's mean, anon.

>> No.11639736

>>11639728
The easy way is to bring 1BB and fill the rest of the 5 with DD/CL/CA.
Guarantee boss node everytime. If you dont want to use bucket. Sparkle a sub and put her as flagship.

>> No.11639740

>>11639728
A lot of it is rng. Sometimes you'll get fucked and sometimes you'll make it through completely unscathed.

I prefer to use higher leveled ships though since they tend to be modernized. Also, un-remodeled dds are fucking awful because they only take one hit to get chuuha/taiha, at which point their damage output tanks. This is why CAs are the queens of night battle. They have great damage output, and have the hp to actually take a couple hits before going orange.

Just take it slow. You have a week and the bar doesn't regen.

>>11639736
There's no real need to use battleships in E2.

>> No.11639743

>>11639740
Oh is the compass random?
For me 1BB always bring me to the boss node in a straight line. Not once was I sent to the north node.

>> No.11639746

>>11639740
Since we are on the subject, is orange really safe to advance on? I have read so many conflicting reports. I have a 12/30 hp boat and I really don't want to go back.

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>> No.11639749

>>11639746
See >>11637655
Watch the video carefully.

>> No.11639750
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11639750

>>11639747

>> No.11639751

>>11639750
What the fuck

>> No.11639752
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11639752

>>11639750

>> No.11639758
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11639758

>>11639752

>> No.11639760

>>11639751
This is how ships are scrapped. The fairies just rip off parts of flesh and steel until nothing remains.

>> No.11639764

>>11639751
What the fuck indeed.

>> No.11639767

>>11639749
That's kinda neat. I remember someone talking about how orange can still sink if they are at a certain hp%, though it could just be bull. I guess I'll consider it safe as long as they are above 30% for precaution.

>> No.11639776

>>11639758
It's Haruna. Haruna did it. She will stop at nothing until she becomes the main girl of the fleet.

>> No.11639778

>>11639743
The compass is not random. My point was that you don't need a BB because CA firepower is enough for the boss, so you're just spending more resources than you need to. Running a BB in E2 is fine - it's just not optimal, that's all.

>>11639746
That's... a touchy subject. There's a lot of conflicting information out there. I've personally had one ship get crit into oblivion from orange (though she had damage control). I'm not clear on what her fatigue level was, though I'm fairly certain she was fine. So I'm rather paranoid about the whole thing. There's just not enough conclusive evidence either way yet.

But as I said before, you have a whole week. Don't take risks you don't need to. Eventually the rng will balance itself out.

And if you're really worried, equip damage control.

>> No.11639785

>>11639778
I was running >>11639640 for a long time and the compass before boss was probably 50/50.

You say I have time, but I have not been past the first node in like two hours and I am just beat.

>> No.11639788

>>11639778
We have a single dude who is absolutely convinced that ships don't sink at orange because he doesn't even play the game and just links "tests" involving all of two ships in order to "prove" his "point". He also posts exactly like that Atago-spamming shitter, so take from that what you will.

Everyone else leans towards cautious optimism. Equip damage controls, then advance at orange.

>> No.11639793

>>11639778
This just me but I think from 50% HP and below they start getting a "chance" to be sunk in one shot if the damage is great enough

like 1% at pure 50% hp and with no protection at all if at the red and fatigued

This is really just me guessing though as I said

>> No.11639796

Sinking is such a huge deal. While it is cool that the devs keep some mechanics information from us, this is actually really important.

>> No.11639806

>>11639785
Oh the pre-boss node? Wikiwiki says it's random, unfortunately.

Take a break anon. The boss will still be there tomorrow. No sense stressing yourself out over this.

And for what it's worth, I'd advise against a complete DD fleet. As I've said before, CAs are gods in night battle. If you have any leveled CAs I'd try to use those instead. The RNG of night battles is fucking ridiculous. The only thing you can do is to mitigate it as much as possible. Beyond that, all you have to do is keep trying. Getting crit in the first node is disheartening shit for sure, but you just have to keep going.

>>11639788
>>11639793
Yeah it's hard to be sure when your ship daughters are on the line. I'd rather play it safe for the time being. I guess it comes down to how much you really want to risk it.

>> No.11639826

>>11639806
My highest ones are 33 and 27 I think. Honestly I don't think their extra health will help much when I'll be getting oneshot to red (usually) anyway, but maybe I will try it out.
Damage does not seem to be a problem for me, but I have not been to the boss yet with a double attack team to see how it goes. Thanks for the help hon.

>> No.11639838

>>11639826
For whatever reason, CAs tend to have slightly better survivability in my experience. It might just be confirmation bias though. Hard to tell. But I assume there's a reason why everyone runs CA fleets for 5-3.

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>>11639806
>>11639826
OH BY THE WAY IT WORKED

>> No.11639874

>>11639839
Congrats, anon. Now get cracking on E3.

>> No.11639895

When do the rankings usually reset? Right at the last the of the month?

>> No.11639892

>>11639874
ahahuahauha maybe in a few days. Well deserved sleep time.

>> No.11639900

>>11639838
They buffed and specialized CAs as night combat gods in September patch with launching 5-3.
Says better aim and evade in night, and I agree I can feel their superior survivability.

>> No.11639953

Recommended average level of fleet to take on E-3 and also amount of resources needed?

Also any equipments you find particularly needed to clear it smoothly like the AA shell or something?

>> No.11639972

>>11639953
Level 30, CV/CVL-heavy, about 3k-6k resources (10k if you really want to be on the safe side, it took me 15k resources because compass).

If you have rare red planes, this is the time to use them.

>> No.11640010

>>11639953
If you can clear 2-4, you can clear E3. It took me roughly 5k all resources to clear. Run at least 2 carriers and 1 battleship. Torpedo monsters highly recommended.

Sanshiki is not required for E3, but more AA never hurts.

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>> No.11640104

>>11640095
Why is Ooi sprite being used as empty placeholder for fubuki?

>> No.11640189

>>11639163
Good news, Nagumo. You are now in charge of the Kidou Butai.

>> No.11640192

>>11640104
Ooi's sprite is the default placeholder, I think.

>> No.11640209
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The beatings will continue until morale improves.

>> No.11640218

Anyone here who cleared E-5 but didn't bother with E-6/7?
I used a heavily DD reliant fleet for everything so killing the boss is hard enough, let alone consistently S rank it for a good chance.
It's also pretty hard to get back into the usual grinding free of night battles and regenerating gauges.

>> No.11640221

full health before E-5 boss node and then fucking cat.

>> No.11640231

>>11640218
My E-5 run will hopefully double as my E-7. I'm glad I waited for Yahagi before trying so I don't have to suffer it twice.

>>11640221
You would have gone north anyway.

>> No.11640237
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The third time in a row one of my ships was critted on the first node. The support fleet uses 500 ammo each time. What are they using it for when I don't make it to the boss?

>> No.11640265

>>11640237

They shoot each other for fun while they go out exploring.

I think it's time for you to teach them a lesson with the D anon.

>> No.11640278

Anyone got Suzuya/Kumano in E3 yet?

>> No.11640280
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After 37 crafts.

>> No.11640283

>>11640280
I did around 50 crafts with no luck, and the first time I dive into 2-4, I get her as a drop.

>> No.11640286

>>11640280
I got like 3 dupes of her, I just wanted I-58 or I-168, my resources...

>> No.11640290

>>11640209
Is that zuikaku at the end of the bullying?

>> No.11640292

>>11640278
I got Suzuya from S rank.

>> No.11640295

>>11640286
I got 2 Goya and 1 Imuya.

>> No.11640296

>>11640286
Did you try e5 farm

>> No.11640299

>>11640292
how many runs?

>> No.11640301
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>>11639659
A bit late, but these other publications are nice.

Far left is a nice anthology manga, middle one is only the nice cover with a small section about kancolle.

Far right is a must get. Contains that pencil board, a small poster with the cover page, and other artists' illustrations like Pop.

>> No.11640302

>>11640218
I didnt bother with E3 after I got Shoukaku off it from like 50sorties. E3 is pretty demotivating with all the shitty drop.
At least in E5, you always get gold bg drop every other run and the first 2nodes give out subs like they are common destroyers.

>> No.11640304

>>11640299
9.

>> No.11640306

>>11640296
I haven't even completed E3 yet though, probably would have been wiser to save my resources to complete the event than crafting huh.

>> No.11640307

>>11640221
Happened twice to me yesterday. I was so close to smashing my modem. It takes me about an hour to sparkle my fleet because of the lag, and then connection error.

>> No.11640310

>>11640306
Oh, probably yeah.

>> No.11640314

>>11640310
Well, with everyone talking about how hellish E4 is though, I kinda felt demotivated to even try it so I turned towards crafting, time to farm resources and at least complete E3 before event ends I guess

>> No.11640319

>>11640314

But anon, how will you ever get a cute sub that speaks German?

>> No.11640320

>>11639892
>In a few days
You have less than one week left.

>> No.11640322

>>11640319
Maybe a few months after the event she hopefully becomes craftable? I don't know, I'm kinda bad at this game lol

>> No.11640324

>>11640322

>craftable

Have fun crafting a gold rarity sub.

>> No.11640326

>>11640314
I am pretty sure E4 would be pretty easy now with all the clear log and knowledge gain from other teitokus.
On my 2nd trip to E5, I almost always make it to the boss node if not for compass trolling.

>> No.11640329

>>11640324
It's okay, I still believe it can be done, somehow, if the game decides to stop giving me Shimakazes

>> No.11640333

>>11640326
When I look at those clear logs and how weak my ships & equipments are compared to theirs and the limited resource and time I have, I feel like I can't do it yet so I'll just prepare myself for the next event

>> No.11640336
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Drama CDs announced six months in advance for some reason about Kongou and Sea Mine Squadron.

>> No.11640337

>>11640314
I am feeling completely unmotivated and utterly stomped by E5 atm.

2Kongou 2 CA KTKM and Ooi, constantly gets redirected NE and not to boss. What is really tiring me out is the 1-1 run to sparkle my ships. Running support fleet each time.

15 runs, and only made it to the boss 3 times. I am looking at the health regen and feeling really dejected by this.

>> No.11640345
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>>11640337
And why not do the middle route?

>> No.11640347

>>11640345
kaga shimakaze kongou
Who is the girl behind them?

>> No.11640348

>>11640345

Being stepped on by your Kanmusu seems very erotic.

>> No.11640349

>>11640345
Cause my other BBs aren't even lvl40, and I tried using subs before, which takes forever (but very reliable B rank results)

>> No.11640354

>>11640349
Try 1kongou+2clt+3dd/ca?
You might not have enough BB firepower during the day battle to clear the escorts but with support it should be doable.

>> No.11640356

>>11640354
That's middle route right? And that would require support fleet taking out 2 forts at least to work.

>> No.11640357
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Feed the Kaga.

>> No.11640361
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Just as Hieikaku.

>> No.11640389

>>11640301
I've been tempted to get these, but right now my priority goes to looking for various 1/72 scale planes, preferably something weird like Su-11s.

>> No.11640392

21/60/20/131 is an excellent recipe for planes.

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>>11640301
Did you use a proxy service?

>>11640336
Close to eight months, really. I'm a huge sucker for drama CDs, though. Time to count down.

Also, admirals are everywhere.

>> No.11640427

After almost 3-4 hours and about 7-8k resources used up at E-5 with only 1 S, 1 A and the rest either NE or need to go back, its time to call it a day.

When RNG really hates you today, its best to just back off. E-7 feels a lot harder than E-5 for whatever reason.

>> No.11640429

>>11640427
It's all RNG, good for you that it was smiling at you when you beat it.

>> No.11640434

>>11640429
Indeed. I only burned about 10k for E-5. I tried subs yesterday and I managed to get A rank without support fleet. Just once though.

>> No.11640436

>>11640412
Got them directly from Mangaoh when all the other sites were sold out when all 3 first came out.
http://mangaoh.co.jp

>> No.11640443

>>11640392
Need a new recipe for Suisei Model 12A. I'm swimming in Ryuusei Kais from that recipe.

>> No.11640445

>>11640443
I got 4 of them but only one Ryuusei kai with it in my daily crafting.

>> No.11640447

>>11640445
What recipe?

>> No.11640448

>>11640447
Same one.

>> No.11640463

>>11640448
Secretary? I'm using a CV, Kaga. T-level 86.

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God I hate DMM for coming up with this even extension shit. As if E-4 to 6 weren't enough they just had to come up with E-7. On top of that I swore to not fap until the event ended, which it should have. The amount of kancolle doujins on sadpanda now doesn't help at all.

>> No.11640467

About 10tries. Akagi 75 Tlevel 90
Only 2notable craft so far
1xsuisei 12
1xshinden kai2

>> No.11640476

>>11640467
I did 90 and got 1 Saiun, 1 Ryuusei-kai, 1 Shiden Kai 2 and 1 Reppu. 1 Holo on avarage 23 attempts sounds pretty good to me, especially since I got plenty of the other, better ships too.

>> No.11640485

>>11640463
I switched between Akagi and Kaga. 82 now.

>> No.11640507
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40 runs since my last good drop in E6. A-any time now.

>> No.11640527

For maps where you run four subs yourself, what formation do you guys normally use? Vertical all the way?

>> No.11640579

>>11640527
for nodes where you just want to get through horizontal, for nodes where you want to kill shit, vertical

>> No.11640581

>>11640527
day vertical
nite diagonal

>> No.11640602

>>11640302
>first 2nodes give out subs like they are common destroyers.
Fuck you, I've done over 70 runs on this fucking map and I haven't droppde a submarine once.

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Am I the only one who imagines this kind of thing when people say vertical formation?

>> No.11640606

>>11640603
not anymore, no
my god
hhhnnggg

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>>11640603

>> No.11640650

Just got myself a Hatsukaze at E-3,nice

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>>11640650

>> No.11640703

Welp, looks like I'm doing E-2. Gotta get that Subdaughter

>> No.11640711

Just learned the true value of Aircraft Carriers.
Full air superiority and two ships dead before the battle even began. I completely ended that battle on the first turn, without even having sparkling.

>> No.11640714

>>11640711
I use 2 CVLs + 2 CLTs + 1SS +1BB ( or something I want to grind )
8/10 times the enemy doesn't get a single turn

>> No.11640716

>>11640714
Hell, I was only using a single aircraft carrier. I'm seriously considering running two now, though.

>> No.11640721

>>11640716
in my experience CVs do too well what CVLs do at a lower cost
CVs usually can't oneshot CAs and above and CVLs can oneshot CL and below just fine. so unless you run rather weak shelling units, CVLs do fine.

Bosses are of course a thing by itself. CVs are more useful there.

>> No.11640731

>>11640721
I tend to run a Battleship heavy strat (mostly because I'm too stupid to into game and just go "Hurr durr big gun do big kill!")
That said, I'm thinking I'll run my CV (Akagi) and my CVL (Junyou) with my Kongou, Mutsu and Yamashiro. What should I stick in my 6th slot, my I-58 or Shimakaze?

>> No.11640736

>>11640731
way too resource intensive and overkill for most things
ditch yamashiro for Goya and ditch either Kongou or Mutsu ( probably Mutsu ) for Shimakaze
at least for non-boss runs. Maxed out Shimakaze is almost a cheat

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I feel kind of pissed off that the only notable drop that I got for clearing E5 wasn't even notable at all. It's an Imuya.

Here's the total bill.

START: 65181/81438/86141/74576
END: 51222/66793/79426/74776
NET: 13959/14645/06715/NIL

Total buckets used: 82

Total sorties: 30.
Time: 11 hours.

>> No.11640749

>>11640744
I have a problem trying to deal the killing blow to the boss. How did you do it? Or is it another RNG thing? The only time I killed the E5 boss was when 3 ships decided to target her at night, and that was the only time I killed her.

>> No.11640750

I need a little help here, what should I do if I want to stock on resources and buckets for a last farming session on E3?

Already did my dailies and sent my expeditions. Was thinking of sub runs in 2-3 but most of my subs are all high leveled and goya is remodeled so the long repair times might be a problem.

>> No.11640751

>>11640749
1. Don't skimp on support expedition. You need to achieve takedown of 1 fortress at least. KTKM and Ooi should finish off another fortress when they pre-empt as well.

2. Make sure that you gear KTKM and Ooi correctly. They need to have 2x 15.5cm secondary to damage reliably, and honestly, when they go red, you could kiss killing the boss goodbye.

>> No.11640753

>>11640744
I'm more curious how you have that range of resources when your ship are in mid 60s.

>> No.11640755

>>11640749
Use a shelling support fleet and Ooi/KTKM.

>> No.11640756

>>11640753
hating money a whole lot

>> No.11640758

>>11640750
Not really a problem. My Goya and Achtacht are 75, Iku's 96 and Imuya's 99, runs 2-3 happily.

>> No.11640760

Does Goya drop in E-5 all nodes or boss only?

>> No.11640763

>>11640758
But what about the high repair times? Do you wait it out or use buckets?
And are you doing solo runs or duo sub runs?

>> No.11640766

>>11640744
Care to post your support fleet and their gear?

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>>11640756
>>11640758
Nope. Cause I 2-3 all day everyday. Here's proof.

>> No.11640767

>>11640765
Game needs more subs

>> No.11640768

>>11640765
I suppose you bucket them often.

>> No.11640769

>>11640301
Thanks. The comic anthology and the book on the right sure are tempting.

>> No.11640770

>>11640750

If they are high leveled they should avoid damage better. At least that's my experience. 20 levels ago I couldn't get through those two battles without at least two girls in yellow or orange. Nowadays it's just a random crit every 5 runs and single point chip damage every other battle.

>> No.11640771

>>11640768
Not that frequently, actually. It takes a while for one of them to go orange. They can fight a good couple of rounds before 1 of them needs a bucket (normally Iku, sometimes Goya.)

I go 3-2 as well, so 10 min paint scratch repair is perfect as that's the time it takes to work off fatigue at any rate.

>> No.11640772

>>11640765
throw in a ktkm and ooi

I wonder how much damage the precombat torpedo phase on a single target would do

>> No.11640775

>>11640772
There's a good chance half the ships will target the same enemy. It would be great if the same target happens to be a BB, but eh... who are we kidding, they're all going to target the destroyer on the 6th slot.

>> No.11640777

>>11640771
wait a second. don't tell me you do quad sub runs?

>> No.11640779

>>11640770
>>11640771
Its pretty random for me, I do runs with two or all three of them (No I8) and they'll do great for a few runs but there's also runs where one of them will drop to orange/red or all of them will drop to orange/red.
Usually happens in the boss node, other nodes are just scratch damage or yellow damage but sometimes I get unlucky and happens in early nodes too.

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>>11640766
Support fleet is this one.
I used Chiyoda and Chitose along with the 2 DDs at first. It works well.
I don't have enough 46cm for all of my BBs, so every other BBs are using 41cm.

>> No.11640783

>>11640781
why

>> No.11640781

>>11640777
Yes. I do quad sub run.

>> No.11640785

>>11640780
Does putting guns on a CVL actually cause her to do shelling? Also, why CVL and not some type of ship?

>> No.11640786

>>11640781
>>11640783
When you factor in the quests that need to be turned in, the amount of exp you get for A or S grade finish at boss, and scrapping the little ships, it's actually better to field all 4.

>> No.11640794

>>11640785
2x CVL and 2x DD are the min, needed for shelling. It's about 100 ammo per run with that setup.

I didn't bother to grab a 4th BB in, because 3 was enough.

>> No.11640795

>>11640786
you can clear all your dailies no problem with dual subs

I actually don't like my subs getting XP because it increases their downtime

and scrapping takes forever with minuscule gains

>> No.11640796

>>11640777
What is the problem?
S rank easy and opening salvo wiped out most thing that can hit you. In the long run, you get more exp for your ships.

>> No.11640800

>>11640796
If you're doing a 2-3 run, isn't the point to get fuel and ammo? With two subs you're guaranteed a surplus even if you go down the long route with three battles, with four subs you're running a deficit.

>> No.11640802

>>11640785
It works like this. 2x CVLs and 2x DDs trigger bombardment, which looks at the total dmg that you can deal, so there's no point to really stack planes if you are using the CVL to trigger shelling.

>> No.11640804

>>11640783

Not that guy, but I run quad subs too.

If you are lucky, first node enemy fleets will have 2 CA. A bit more luck gets wipes off anything with depth charges off the field. Then it's smooth sailing.

One boss node composition has 3DD/CL. With 4 subs you have a chance to never even have to take any damage during the run.

>> No.11640806

Now that we're talking about 2-3 sub runs, how exactly do you avoid getting fucked at the boss node?
Sometimes my subs will aim at the bottom ships and beat it without a scratch but sometimes they all aim at the carrier or battleship and all end up in the docks after being shot at six times.

>> No.11640807

>>11640800
I don't find it a deficit, since I often find myself going into night battle in order to kill the supply ships.
4x sub salvos works out to be about the same as 2x subs having to do night round.

>> No.11640809

>>11640802
>>11640794
Okay. So essentially, pile as many guns as you can onto CVL? I'll give this a shot soon.

>> No.11640810

>>11640785
It's strange but I find putting holo planes on the CVLs way more effective than vice guns and the nips seem to be in agreement as well. Try it yourself, put a bunch of Suisei Model 12As and Ryuusei Kais if you don't have enough.

>> No.11640815

>>11640800
Not him but a deficit of 5-20 fuel every run is pretty much negligible. Plus whenever you go the 2 fuel node route you'd normalize it anyway.

>> No.11640812

>>11640806
Do it with 4subs.
Even the node with ring formation and 3ships that can fuck you up is nothing.

>>11640800
It is always a positive gain, you have expedition running remember. The only deficit from the sortie is ammo if you go the north route..

>> No.11640818

>>11640812
I dont have a 4th sub though and dont have enough resources/buckets to attempt E4.

Its waiting til they become craftable or waiting for I-401 for me

>> No.11640824

I started during the event, two weeks ago, and I have 3 subs but no chance of making it through E-4. I just don't have the BB levels and equipment needed. I see people with lvl 70 fleets struggle like hell and I can barely get together a lvl 50 one

so fucking jelly of those who have I-8

>> No.11640827

>>11640807
I never go into night battle ever doing dual subs. Total waste of ammo. If you didn't kill anything, who cares, if you would get a loss otherwise, who cares. Just grab the resources and run it again.

The important thing is resource efficiency. The sheer volume of 2-3 sub runs you can do a day is such that you'll still easily complete all the dailies not inefficiently chasing kills.

>> No.11640828

>>11640824
http://kancolle.doorblog.jp/archives/34806540.html
Level is overrated.

>> No.11640829

what ships, level and equip do you guys use to kill enemy subs in 4-1 / 4-2 for the daily / weekly?

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>>11640824
It wasn't easy for me to get through. My fleet was even lower than now when I cleared E4. The only exception was the sub obviously.

Hell, I was a member of the NO CA club. I even used Mogami to do it...

>> No.11640833

>>11640828
the equipment is the bigger problem. I must have blown 40 development materials trying to get sanshiki. not a single one.

>> No.11640834

>>11640824
E-4 isn't about levels, it's about resources. I beat it with fleet that had two level 50s and the rest in their mid 30s. As long as you have 20-25k of each resource you can slog though even if you're underleveled.

>> No.11640835

>>11640824
It's night battle, which means the level of your ships mean very little. A higher level ship might have better evasion and tank better at night, but that is all. Firepower is a free-for-all.

>> No.11640837

>>11640833
you have 1week to level your hiei
What is your excuse for not leveling her?

>> No.11640839

>>11640832
I hope you actually bought that mahjong set furniture item, Saki.

>> No.11640840

>>11640834
And RNG luck. Honestly, it all comes down to whether or not if the RNG will let you get to Henderson-chan and whether or not if your CAs and BBs will let her eat Sanshikidan nonstop...

>> No.11640844

>>11640840
Also apparently there is a debate/rumor going on that horizontal is a shit formation for night battle.
You can try doing it with diagonal to see if it yield better result.

>> No.11640842

>>11640833
Battleship as flag, do 10/90/90/60 (yes, it's all two-digits) . Sanshiki drops like candy from there. Do this ten times, if you still don't have a Sanshiki, today's not your day.

>> No.11640843

>>11640839
Of course I did, it's not tanoshii if otherwise.

>> No.11640847

>>11640842
Fuck, I always thought is was 10/90/90/30

>> No.11640848

>>11640847
>30 bauxite
No man, things to do with planes always use a lot of bauxite.

>> No.11640849

>>11640842
I used 10/90/90/30. It gave me 15.5cm, sanshikidan and the AP shells.

>> No.11640852

>>11640839
I hope they replace the mahjong set with something for xmas like a Xmas tree or something cute like that

>> No.11640856

>>11640847
There is another one which is 10/110/110/30. It yields better result for me compare to the 90 one.

>> No.11640854

so how effective is 2 main ships + 4 throwaway DD shields in E-4?

>> No.11640857

>>11640844
Diagonal and two lines are the only way to go. I cleared E5 going double line, and diagonal for E4.

I had my subs go diagonal when I tried to have them do E5 for that matter. It definitely works.

>> No.11640858

>>11640852
No no no no

I've already spend 1800 yen on furniture fairies because I like to collect furniture

>> No.11640860

>>11640829
DD or CL I want to train/CVL/BB/CLT/CLT/SS

ASW equipment on the flagship, 2 Ryuusei Kais, 1 Suisei Model 12A, 1 Saiun on CVL, 46cm, 3 Type 32 radars on BB, 20.3cm and minisub on CLTs, boilers on SS.

refresh if compass chan points you to node i

orange on sub is fine, though I prefer to retreat if the sub is red. you can replace the SS with another DD or something if you want

>> No.11640862

>>11640840
The resources are the counter to the RNG luck. With enough fuel and ammo, you statistically will eventually push through. You can get obnoxious streaks of bullshit, though. Especially when you need to get the damn coup de grace on her.

>> No.11640863

>>11640852
>something cute like that
Seriously, Mahjong is very cute.

>> No.11640864

>>11640852
Mahjong is pretty cute. You don't think Washizu is moe?

>> No.11640867

>>11640863
Only if it comes with cute lesbians playing it

>> No.11640868

>>11640854
very

but people will judge you for it

>> No.11640871

>>11640857
Yeah, sadly I did E4 with horizontal on all node and double line for the BB node. It was probably a mistake since I took like 8hours and 4damage con to clear E4.
E5 was so much easier for me when I ditch horizontal.

>> No.11640872

>>11640867
Some ship daughters are lesbian enough to play it.

>> No.11640873

>>11640854
Devs really need to implement a counter for the number of ships sunk during the your career.

>> No.11640874

>>11640854
I tried it 4 times and it was pretty useless.
What you really want to do is 2 Kongous and 4 other BBs - they don't even have to be leveled.
This worked wonders for me.

>> No.11640878

>>11640868
Why are people caring about how others do things in a single player game again?

>> No.11640880

>>11640868
results are all that matters
if it gets me through I'm fine sinking a thousand DD

>> No.11640882

>>11640878
>>11640868
>>11640854
Because it means that your fleet and your resources aren't capable of taking the challenge on head-on.

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>>11640854
DD, not so good. High lvl DD is very good on that map though.
Lvl1 CA and CL on the other hand is very effective.

>> No.11640887

>>11640883
High lvl DDs are decent substitute for CAs on that map. I used Yukikaze to fill in when I simply had 0 usable CA for E4.

E2 is perfectly doable with just DDs for that matter.

>> No.11640894

>>11640887
DDs are better than CAs, assuming you have the right ones, since the Shigure and Yukikaze are able to consistently dodge a majority of incomming attacks and are cheaper in other regards as well.
The only downside to using DDs is that it's a bit harder to kill the boss, but it's not like that's impossible either.

>> No.11640897

>>11640878
they were

but why waste resources when you can spend them on more productive things

I mean if it makes you feel more fulfilled doing things the hard way then good for you but other people have different ways of enjoying the game

>> No.11640898

>>11640894
Some people actually use Shigure and Yukikaze to fill in for KTKM/Ooi for E5. It actually makes sense to stick them full of torps, since they will cut-in and that cut-in is likely to bring down just about anything.

>> No.11640900

Finally got my Sendai from completing E-1

>> No.11640907

>>11640898
53cm
2xquint
Best setup for Yukikaze. You should have 3finishers in E5 anyway incase 2 of them went into red/orange.

>> No.11640908

>>11640898
I used all four and it worked wonders.

>> No.11640909

>>11640898
>some people
Me too, I used 3 DDs 2 Kongous and Kitakami for every event map and in the end that fleet hasn't disappointed me.
Yukikaze, Yuudachi and Shigure are great.

>> No.11640911

>>11640883
this is true though the main point of sacrificial ships is simply to give you a good shot at having your kongous shoot the boss

though whatever dds that survive can still deal a surprising amount of damage to the boss, like even 50 damage with double attacks

>> No.11640913

What ship can equip this AP ammo?

Just gone one by chance, what do I actually use it for?

>> No.11640917

>You don't need that many battleships
nope
into the trash you go

>> No.11640918

>>11640913
Has it ever occurred to you to read the wiki first?

>> No.11640919

>>11640913
The wiki has in depth information about what it does.

>> No.11640915

>>11640913
wiki

>> No.11640916

>>11640909
Yuudachi is a beast. Her shelling made the Kongous look like useless ships that are only good for navigation.

Heck, 2-3 would be no challenge at all if it's a night battle map for the DDs.

>> No.11640923

Out of the following, who do I take to E-3?
Ooi LVL 16 ( Leveling her right now )
Soryuu LVL 20
Maxed out Shigure Kai 28
Maxed out Maya Kai 28
Maxed out Kongou 38
Maxed out Takao 44
Maxed out Shimakaze 44
Chitose 48
53 Junyou
55 KTKM
I also have a few duplicate Kongou and Fusou sisters at lvl 1
30k/50k/40k/16k
not really any useful equipment to speak of, sadly

>> No.11640924

I've made 7/20 successful runs on E-7 and they all ended up with an A. I can't help but think I'm doing something wrong.

Running 2Kongou/2DD/2CLT

>> No.11640926

>>11640909
Isnt it sad how Shimakaze is being overshadow by these common kai2 destroyer?
When are we getting super shimakaze? She need a new gimmick besides just being fast and a dodge tank.

>> No.11640927 [DELETED] 

>>11640915
>>11640918
>>11640919
Get off your high horses elitist scumbags, I only ask a simple question right?

>> No.11640931

>>11640927
Yes and the wiki has your answer.

>> No.11640929

>>11640924
your support fleet needs more juice

>> No.11640930

>>11640915
>>11640918
My bad and thanks, I checked the general FAQ which explained only the green ammo. I forgot for a minute the equipment list existed.

>>11640917
Please take is easy.

>> No.11640934

>>11640926
Beaver could use Tan Yang upgrade too. Her AA stats would go up from this...

>> No.11640935

>>11640923
Where is Akagi? Sank?
ooi
ktkm
kongou
akagi
soryuu
junyou

>> No.11640937

>>11640927
Why are you trying to start an arugument? Ignore this person please, it's not the person who asked the question.

>> No.11640933

>>11640927
>Too retarded to use a common Internet resource
>Accuse us of being elitists on high horses

>> No.11640938

>>11640933
Holy mother of Gaia, greentexting like a faggot.

Just kidding, you still suck though.

>> No.11640940

>>11640935
I never used Akagi so she is level 4.
by the time I got her I had a Kai'd Junyou and Chitose 22

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>>11640930

>> No.11640942

>>11640929
I'm not running any support since the rate at which I'm reaching the boss is already abysmal.

>> No.11640943

>>11640926
Not really. Shimakaze is still pretty strong and she doesn't need to get 50 more levels to show it off.

Besides, there's no room for speedsluts in my fleet.

>> No.11640945

>>11640942
Goodluck getting that S rank then.

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>>11640937

>> No.11640948

>>11640942
your chances of s-ranking the boss is pretty low if you don't use the support fleet...

try sticking a lucky ship like yukikaze as flagship and see if anything changes. it's a rumor i never got around to testing because i got yahagi on my first try.

>> No.11640949

>>11640942
I know that feel.
On my first 3run today, I got 2A and 1S. Time to call support to get more S. Once I called in my support, flagship kongou got crit by a elite destroyer on the first node without CUTIN and auto retreat. Next 2run went to NE.
1000ammo down the drain. I swear this game has a fucking observer on the other side and he controlled the compass just to make you rage.

>> No.11640946

>>11640943
Please leave the slut calling to /a/.
Better yet, please go back to /a/.

>> No.11640950 [DELETED] 

>>11640946
But I came from Danny Choo's facebook

>> No.11640951

>>11640949
That's how I feel about the RNG-sama as well. Honestly, the true boss of E5 is RNG. Then against, RNG seems to be the true boss in every turn.

>> No.11640952

>>11640924
How are you doing with the opening air attack? My experience with 3CAs 1 Kongou 2 CLTs to go middle route were pretty bad even when I stacked a lot of AA. I can't imagine what it would be like with DDs.

>> No.11640955

>>11640952
Maya only has an additional 20AA stats on Shigure. I dont think that is a huge difference.

>> No.11640956

>>11640952
Someone actually replaced a CA with a CV just to deal with the lousy air attacks. You won't get your T crossed that way, but the CV obviously doesn't do anything during night battles...

>> No.11640958

>>11640956
getting T crossed takes 40% off your attack power so I assume that really does help a lot

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>>11640945
I'll probably clear all my resources on supports and not even make it to the boss. I'm not concerned about the S-rank, rather reaching the boss.
>>11640948
I've a Yukikaze but she isn't leveled. Using ZKMS and Yuudachi K2.
>>11640952
Not that bad really, considering I only have the 2 Kongous with sanshiki, the air attack doesn't do much.

>> No.11640960

>>11640955
4 Slots instead of 3. Can equip type-3. It is a huge difference.
(Also when I used 2Kongou 2CA 2CLT, their planes barely scratch me.)
So it's either that 1Kongou made the difference (~20AA)

>> No.11640966

>>11640959
Strange, something is terribly wrong if you're retreating that frequently.

I'm currently farming E-5 for Yahagi and haven't been forced to retreat after 6 successful boss runs. Even CA cut-ins do scratch damage to my flagship Yukikaze. Have you tried going the center route with 3 Kongous?

>> No.11640967

What kind of levels and compositions should I have for E-2?

>> No.11640969

Is it weird that I couldn't care less about Musashi because she is a resource hogging bitch but would kill for I-8?

>> No.11640970

>>11640960
I am only running 3ships with AA. So far the air attack is basically negligible. Oh yeah I stick a 12cm30 AA gun on my one of the kongou as well. The other has a turbine. I could probably replaced Maya with Shigure for the same result. I still prefer having one CA though to kill the scrub mob instead of waiting for torpedo phase with them all shooting the same target.

2kongou with 2x46cm + radar
maya with 2x15.5 + radar + sanshiki

>> No.11640971 [DELETED] 

>>11640967
You need to be level 99 and have Nagato, Mutsu, Haruna, Kongou Kai2, Hiei Kai2 and Kirishima to clear it.

>> No.11640975

>>11640967
All 6 CVs. Level doesn't matter.

>> No.11640978 [DELETED] 

I see /jp/'s Kancolle thread lives up to its reputation as being full of elitist assholes

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>>11640960
This is my current fleet, I've been retreating a bit more than when I ran E-5 itself and that was with 2CA instead of 2DD.
I did try the center route while doing E-5 but I didn't have 3 Kongous. Didn't turn out too well either.

I'll delete the screencaps in a bit

>> No.11640982 [DELETED] 

>>11640967
6 level 1 DDs. Everytime you retreat, you chop one finger off, when all fingers are gone, you go for the toes. When all your fingers and toes are gone, gouge out your eyeballs. Following that if you're still alive, start by removing your organs one by one for every retreat.

>> No.11640983

>>11640975
Poor noob will never get Akagi, Kaga, Soryuu, Hiryuu, Shoukaku and Zuikaku to do E2.

>> No.11640984

>>11640978
I bet the majority of posters here are crossboarders.
They don't know how to take it easy.

>> No.11640987

>>11640981
Which node are you retreating at?
flagship node is piss easy if you run the correct formation. You basically have an extra attack because of their dumb flagship CV at their top spot.

>> No.11640989

>>11640982
Sounds too violent, how about a drinking game for the night battle maps?

Only one rule, take a shot every time you are forced to retreat, if you die of alcohol poisoning, you lose.

>> No.11640992

>>11640989
No pain, no gain.

>> No.11640993
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It's already past 2AM in Japan.

>> No.11640996

>>11640981
Do you have any ship with high luck?
I remember using Yuudachi as flagship and failing often too.

>> No.11641003

>>11640987
I would say it's around 50/50 but I haven't been taking it down. In my E-5 logs retreats at second node were slightly higher.
>>11640996
I didn't take luck into consideration when training ships so I have Yukikaze at lv10. KTKM would be my highest luck ship that I have trained.

>> No.11641005

>>11641003
The reason you're failing is solely because of monkeygirl in your fleet.

>> No.11641009

>>11641003
Put Kitakami in the first slot and try it a few times.

>> No.11641016

>>11641003
You are doing something wrong. retreat rate is just too high. RNG won't do that.

>> No.11641023

>>11641009
>>11641016
Went to do a sub run while morale was recovering. Imuya red in the first node.

Switched flag to KTKM and went E-5. Ooi crit to red in the first node. What the hell am I supposed to do.

>> No.11641025

>>11641016
Not him, but after a first two perfect run, I somehow just screwed up and my boss rate was only 17 out of 40 runs, with 4 complete kill.

I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. I even try to replicate everything from my first runs, but there's no improvement. I'm also running out of fuel and bucket (started with 20k all and 140 buckets).

>> No.11641030

Trying to build 46cm cannons
failed and then got a 15.5cm
and the recipe is kinda damn expensive
10/300/250/10
any cheaper ones?

>> No.11641031

>>11641023

>>11641025 here, and I had similar thing happening. I even tried Shigure or Yukikaze on the flagship, and my highest level ships still eating crits everywhere.

Funny thing is, it's almost always the highest leveled ones. I don't even know what's wrong.

>> No.11641033

>>11641031
The only thing a lucky flagship helps you with is not being send North-East.

>> No.11641034

>>11641031
Maybe your experienced kanmusu are taking it upon themselves to protect their kohai.

>> No.11641035

>>11641030
and now it have me a 12.7mm cannon
screw you game. really.

>> No.11641032

>>11641023
>>11641025
try to at least sparkle CLT/DD since it is cheap and fast

>> No.11641036

>>11641031
Do you eat anything while playing the game?
From my experience, you'll have better luck eating sweet things as opposed to salty things.

>> No.11641038

>>11641030
get musashi. come with a free 46cm

>> No.11641039

>>11641036
Since we're talking about magic, turning the audio off and putting the game into the background during battles makes them perform better too.

>> No.11641040

>>11641038
aren't we funny today.

>> No.11641042

>>11641039
I have the background music off, I like to substitute it with my own battle music.

>> No.11641045

>>11641034
I like the way you think.

>>11641039
Seems like we have the same method.

>> No.11641046

>>11641039
While we're at this topic, I heard that balancing on one toe with an apple on your head while you select a formation tends to grant hidden bonuses as well.

>> No.11641049

>>11641031
My E-5 stats are pretty much the same as yours, 14/42 with 5 kills.
>>11641032
I tried this with all ships at 75 morale on my first run during E-5 and Hiei got crit to red on the first node. Never again.
>>11641036
Actually I could use some sweet things, I've had too much soya sauce and cheese in my recent meals. Probably would make me feel better as well.
>>11641039
Actually I should, I'm going to get PTSD if I keep hearing my ships shout in the background after getting hit. I already can't bear to watch the window during a battle.
>>11641046
That's seems a little far-fetched though.

>> No.11641051

>>11640842
20 times later I got various shit guns, various shit torpedos and various shit anti-air guns. and about 5 fails

this is worse than any battle RNG

>> No.11641053

>>11641049
>Using actually twice in a row
And I didn't even notice, how on Earth did I managed to pass my English papers back then.

>> No.11641056

>>11641053
>Starting a sentence with And
Yes, I really wonder how on Earth did you even pass your English papers back then.

>> No.11641065

>>11641056
I'm surprised you didn't point out I typed managed instead of manage. I was trying to jam the stop button but... Oh well.

I'm used to working on manga and the abundance of sentences which go "And..." is starting to affect me.

>> No.11641071

>>11641046
I like to close the monitor whenever the compass starts spinning and pretend to not care where it points to. It also makes choosing formations a lot more fun

>> No.11641072

Anyone got any good drops from E5 sub runs?

>> No.11641092

>>11641072
The only gold bg ship I got was Ooi.

>> No.11641135

>>11641031
Relax and go play another game for a while.

>> No.11641148

>>11641135
that only works when there is no time-limit attached. the event is time-limited and for most people I-8 will forever be out of reach after it ends

>> No.11641154

>>11641148
I think I'll never get her. I just finished E2 and my resources are nearly gone. Less than 2k, no goya/imuya for node farm, fuck.

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Non-ugly Chikuma is weird.

>> No.11641161

>>11641157
I definetely wouldn't mind the artist change for a second remodel for those two.

>> No.11641164

>>11641154
no Hachi for me either. still to start E-3 and when I look how much equipment I need for E-4 .... 46cm cannons, probably a few of them even. AA ammo. Turbines. Radars. Got one +10 Turbine, no AA ammo after 10 tries and no 46cm cannons after wasting 2k+ res

>> No.11641169
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E-5 Report

Fuel ~9k
Ammo ~7k
Steel ~5k
Buckets ~55

Cleared in 20 sorties. This is actually my second attempt, first try I went 25 sorties with barely two bars off the boss bar, probably because I didn't have Kitakami and Ooi ready.

Double line for pre-boss, line ahead for boss fights. Not sure why I went boss almost every sortie, maybe Shigure's luck, maybe the three radars I equipped.

I sparkled everyone except Haruna for every sortie. Not sure why but when I sparkle everyone, it's like asking for an early crit.

Time for ice cream.

>> No.11641212

do you guys put planes on your subs ?

I hope I-401 will have 1/1/1 planes slots or 2/1 slots, and perhaps comes with a Seiran at remodel, given her size and history.

>> No.11641216

>>11641212
no, thats insanely useless

>> No.11641217

>>11641169
please share your equipments. I am using the same team as you did, but I always got crit early.

>> No.11641218

>>11641157
Her face still creeps me out.

>> No.11641223

How much AA is considered "high" for E-3?

>> No.11641228

>>11641216
I thought so when I used Imuya and Goya with a Zuiun, but the recon phase almost never succeeded.
Now, with Iku, it's more reliable.
I'll try to test more when I remodel Hacht.

The only problem is you're not likely to have any more planes after 1 or 2 battles at best.

>> No.11641230

>>11641217
Shigure: 10cm + 5x torpedo +53cm torpedo
Yuudachi: 12.7cm B + 10cm + Type 33
Kongo: 46cm + 46cm + sanshiki + Type 21
Haruna: 46cm + 46cm + sanshiki + Type 33
KTKM/Ooi: 15.5cm + 15.5cm + midget sub

Sparkles help a lot for avoiding early crits, though they aren't foolproof.

>> No.11641239
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Kongou, or Kaga?

>> No.11641244

>>11641239
Kaga

>> No.11641245

>>11641239
Kongou

>> No.11641248

>>11641239
Haruna.

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>>11641239
Kaga, because she knows how to take it easy.

>> No.11641250

>>11641239
Haruna, the flagship of my heart and my goddess of victory.

>> No.11641257

>>11641248
>>11641250
No Haruna, you're not the main character.

>> No.11641302

What trickery do you guys use to get so much resource and breaking the resource cap?

I find myself resource hungry all the time and I don't do sorties with some kind of 6BB/CV fleets or anything like that.

>> No.11641306

What's the easiest method to farm sub levels?
I always lose on 2-3 when I send two subs (lvl 12s with +10 torpedo)

>> No.11641312

>>11641306
grind 3-2 first node.
Also gives exp to 5 other ships

>> No.11641316

>>11641302
Once you stop crafting ships, your resource skyrockets

>> No.11641317

>>11641312
I started 5 days ago and yet to unlock level 3.
Pathetic, I know, but compass trolls the fuck out of me on 2-4

>> No.11641319

>>11641317
there are people playing for a month that haven't beaten 2-4

>> No.11641320

>>11641306
>>11641317
I started two weeks ago and still didn't get a single sub besides Iku.

>> No.11641323

>>11641317
you could also try to include a sub when you level at 2-4 first node.

>> No.11641330

>>11641320
Well, I got Imuya very early.
Like in the 2nd hour.

>> No.11641333

>>11641330
With the usual recipe?

>> No.11641337

>>11641306
Strange, my Iku's level skyrocketted the moment I got her to lvl10 and solo farmed 2-3 constantly. She easily gets 600 exp for B ranks and it ain't even hard for her to get it.

You could also include her as a dodgetank for 2-4-1 grinding

>>11641317
>5 days
And that isn't great progress already?

>> No.11641343

>>11641333
It funny because I don't even remember how I got her...

>>11641337
About farming 1 node then quitting...
How is the win ratio that's needed for the events calculated? Is it per battle or per sortie (aka you have to clear the whole map)? I suspect the first because I could clear E-1, but "sortie win ratio" is a bit misleading.

>> No.11641344

>>11641337
My Iku gets shot for 4-14 damage every fucking time I try to do 2-3 solo. Her stats are full too, but I don't have a turbine (too many tries, no luck).

>> No.11641345

>>11641343
Every battle you do counts.

>> No.11641346

>>11641344
Yes, this is my issue as well. With the addition that it's usually both Iku and Imuya get bombed to red.

>> No.11641347

>>11641343
per battle
your statistics don't count sorties, just battles
you have to have won 75% of your battles, i.e. B rank or above
spamming 1-1-A endlessly is actually a nice way to get a high success ratio

>> No.11641353

Holy fuck Musashi remodel costs 3000 steel?

What the fuck.

>> No.11641356

Do you guys use torpedo planes when not progressing?

Akagi just ate 1200+ bauxite over 5 mock battles and 1 sortie...

>> No.11641358

>>11641353
You spend that much for a 46cm.
Remodeling Kongou kai nis on the other hand...

>> No.11641359

>>11641353
that's not even twice her full repair cost, by the way.

>> No.11641361

>>11641356
You don't put CV and CVL against obvious aircraft nodes, unless you want to lose thousands of bauxite.

>> No.11641368

>>11641343
It's per battle, check your player score if you're confused

>>11641344
Are you sure her armor stat is maxed?

I just only got my first turbine a few hours ago and honestly there's not much difference from not having it when farming 2-3.

Anyways it takes only about half an hour for a full repair, don't neglect your other shipdaughters

>> No.11641369

>E-2 is meant for newer players
>Getting raped
I don't get it, DDs are fucking garbage despite everyone saying they're decent and submarines rape during night battles.

>> No.11641370

>>11641368
Everything is maxed on her. She's also level 60.

>> No.11641379

>>11641370
RNG Goddess does not like you then

>> No.11641380

>>11641369
Try having depleted the boss bar and all your ships refusing to hit the boss/letting it escape with 1 HP.

>> No.11641384

>>11641380
I don't even think I'll be able to complete E-2 because apparently using the only good ships in the game, battleships, triggers the E node where your precious battleships get raped by submarines and spend 8 hours being repaired not that I don't have buckets

>> No.11641386

>>11641369
I don't recommend taking on E-2 until you've cleared 2-4 bare minimum. Also from what I've heard CAs might be a better choice than DDs for night battles.

>> No.11641387

What is the best method to get Yukikaze?

>> No.11641390

>>11641384
I'm using 4DD 2CA setup. Working wonders, sometimes 1 DD gets hit to orange, but the CAs get cutscene hit for 4 or 7. They still refuse to hit the boss, though. Well, only once my Hibiki killed the boss in one hit.

>> No.11641391

>>11641384
As long as you don't go in sortie with more than 3 BBs right? I took on E-2 with Kongou and Haruna just because they can soak up much more damage than DDs. I don't see a reason in keeping buckets anyway when I have >100 and I don't plan on taking E-4

>> No.11641392

>>11641384
I cleared E-2 with 4 DDs. You're either unlucky or doing something wrong.

>> No.11641394

>>11641392
I don't have any good DDs anyways, all I have is a Shimakaze really. The other are just non-descript cannon fodder that are barely Level 10.

>> No.11641395

>>11641387
You pray and sacrifice something as offerings to the RNG goddess

>> No.11641399

>>11641369
A full DD team does quite well for the resources used, providing they're decently equipped, high level, and fully modernised. You'll need stronger DDs for higher success in pinch hitting the boss, though (i.e. not Mutsukis).

>> No.11641401

>>11641394
>I don't have any good DDs anyways, all I have is a Shimakaze really.
Come on dude.

>> No.11641403

>>11641401
What? I don't have a Beaver yet and her and Shimakaze are the only good DDs, right?

>> No.11641406

>>11641403
shigure kai 2, hibiki kai 2, yuudachi kai 2 are all really good

>> No.11641408

>>11641406
They're also very high level and completely out of my reach right now, although it's not like I haven't been working on them teach me how to grind ship levels superfast

>> No.11641409
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>>11641403

All of the 3rd remodel DDs are great.

>> No.11641410

>>11641409

2nd* whoops

>> No.11641412

>>11641408
3-2-A or 2-4-A with a sub as a dodgetank and opening air bombing and torpedo shots with flagship being the ship you want to grind.

>> No.11641414

>>11641412
Would two subs work better than one or will I only need one sub.

>> No.11641416

I managed to craft a type 91 AP ammo, is this thing any good?

>> No.11641417

>>11641414
One as a dodgetank is enough, just switch between the subs if they ever get too heavily damaged and you don't want to risk them sinking

>> No.11641420

>>11641409
Talk about appearance change.

>> No.11641421

>>11641414
you can rotate between subs, so more subs will work better, but always only one in the fleet if it's mainly there to tank for the other ships.

>> No.11641422

>>11641417
So basically
Flagship DD
SS
CV or CVL
CV or CVL

>> No.11641431

>>11641422
You can honestly stick whatever else you want in there for the exp. I usually stick a BB in to make sure it never reaches torpedo phase and a second ship that needs a little bit of exp. But yea, something like that.

>> No.11641435

>>11641422
basic setup, yeah, you can add in a second ship you want levelled up and a BB to just make sure everything dies

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>>11641431
>>11641435
Ok, thanks. This seems like it should work pretty well, I ran it without Shimakaze and Haruna and it went alright so it should be good like this.

>> No.11641444

When you max out a ship's stat, the cap is with equipment bonus, right? Or without?

>> No.11641445

>>11641444
What do you think?

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is e2 just rng? i've been at it for quite a while, but the DD keeps dying before the day phase, so I can't do anything.

>> No.11641461

>>11641450
kill it during the night then.
But yes, it's very rng heavy

>> No.11641469

>>11641461
I don't have enough firepower to kill it during the night. I got it to 65 HP in the day phase once, but then it regenned all the health back.

I've burned too much ammo/fuel on this, but I don't know what else I can do.

>> No.11641474

>>11641469
Is your gear tuned for night battle?

>> No.11641479

>>11641469
Why are all your ships useless?
Do you not have any hard hitter like Kitakami or a strong battleship?

>> No.11641477

>>11641474
I have everybody equipped for double attacks.

>> No.11641478

>>11641469
use BBs for firepower then, I got through E-2 easily using 2 Kongous equipped with double attack equipments

>> No.11641488

>>11641477
if you feel lucky, try the double torpedo cutins strat

>> No.11641494

>>11641488
This works well with Yukikaze.

>> No.11641497

after meeting so many CVs in pvp that can still attack even in red, I feel like leaving my entire fleet as CV or CVLs when I'm not playing

>> No.11641500

>>11641450
More often than not, your ships will aim at everything but the boss, so you should place ships that do the most damage nearer to the bottom.

>> No.11641507

>>11641469
I killed it with 1 double attack from a lv30 Isuzu.
The problem is to get your ships to actually shoot it instead of the other ships, which needs some luck. Or aim to kill everything, in that case the hardest hitter has to go in the last position. Needs also luck since 1 miss can screw you though.

>> No.11641530

>>11641497
Go for it. Easy farm for 46cm + Type 3 battleships. If Type 3 actually activates, you pretty much remove CVs from the fight because you take down so many planes.

>> No.11641531

>>11641507
Just got a Kinu and Abukuma while trying to meet daily crafting requirements, while using battleship recipes. This game man, this game this game this game this game this game

>> No.11641533

>>11641530
Why would anyone use Type 3 on 46cm battleships lol, also do those things even help against the red planes?

>> No.11641537

Okay guys be honest.
Will you even use the rares?The spoils of E6 and E7, yes them.

Are they mean anything to you, anything other than being a trophy?

>> No.11641540

>>11641537
depends on stats
it all depends on stats

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>>11641507
>>11641488
>>11641478
well, yukikaze hit the boss for 150.
next run they all hit everything but the boss.

I wish I did this earlier, the last 10 times I tried one got crit to red.

>> No.11641543

>>11641533
Because the Type 3 effect is separate and takes out a lot more planes when it works. You can actually take out every plane from a carrier and watch it do nothing on it's turn.

>> No.11641549

>>11641537
I really like Musashi and I'm leveling her.
I also dropped Akigumo that I'll be using with my destroyer fleet for 3-2 and Zuikaku which I'm leveling too.
If anything, I won't be using the Nashiro (or her sisters) since CLs are practically useless.

>> No.11641554

>>11641537
Using Musashi, hachi (of course)
I'll use Yahagi if I get her, just because of the supreme rarity background in her final form.

>> No.11641563

So why is Musashi delicious brown?

>> No.11641578

>>11641563
Why not?

>> No.11641582

how effective is the 250/130/200/30 submarine recipe anyway, I get nothing but light cruisers.

I think it's just my luck though since I've been getting heavy cruisers with battleship recipes

>> No.11641592

>>11641582
its like 5%

>> No.11641599

>>11641592
30 crafts and not even 1 appears, just my luck I guess. I would've thought at least one would show up by now but...

>> No.11641602

>>11641599
30 is nothing, try 100.

>> No.11641605

>>11641599
it's all luck. I got 2 imuyas, one which I lost, and 1 goya over a period of 30-40 something crafts.

>> No.11641607

>>11641602
if it really is 5% I hope to get 5 if I really do attempt 100 crafts, then I can farm 2-3 forever

>> No.11641617

>>11641607
>>11641592
It's more like 1-2% for each sub. Go look at the results on kancolle-db.

You're probably better off using 250/30/200/30.

>> No.11641667

Finally got my Yahagi from an A rank win.
Spent around as much resource as I spent on clearing E-5 (13k fuel/ammo)

>> No.11641671

>>11641667
did something like 40 runs, spend like 20K / 80 buckets and still nothing.

If only I could get stuff like Zuikaku etc, I would be fine, but I only get Hyuuga and toncrap of atago and common destroyer.

>> No.11641721

>>11641671
you need to pray and make some sort of offering

>> No.11641730

>>11641671
I did 13 runs. 3 S 9 A 1 retreat (I pushed on red quite a bit, lost 2 damage controls).

>> No.11641769

>>11641671
I am in need of recovering from clearing E5. It's not just resources... the sense of burnout from 11hrs nonstop grind has gotten to me.

I'd do E7 if I can, but going at it for hours on and like I did for E5 is just not sustainable.

Come to think of it, anyone getting event fatigue?

>> No.11641779

>>11641769
I'm a bit burnt out.
But that's more from the compass fucking me over the dailies. Yesterday was boss heavy, while the day before was supply ship heavy.

>> No.11641781

>>11641769
いいえ、知らない子ですね…

>> No.11641786

>>11641781
>いいえ、知らない子ですね…
Back off, Akagi. You can try prying the bauxite from my cold, dead hands.

>> No.11641787

>>11641769
I just want to get Yahagi so I can go back to taking it easy, but 20k ammo later and 10 S ranks and still nothing.

>> No.11641789

I have yet to clear E-3 and I'm basically sacrificing sleep and everything to maybe somehow clear E-4 just barely in time. bad luck that I started about a week into the event

>> No.11641790

>>11641769
I am too yeah.
Not completed E6 and E7 yet, and I'm wondering about the best way to do it.
Given how busy I am those days, sunday will be my sole chance to farm for Yahagi - I really hope I'll get her since she's quite a cutie, but also because she'll be a pain to farm for / craft in a few months.

>> No.11641792

>>11641787
They should extend the event to the 30th... or the 4th. I really can't ゆっくり like this.

>> No.11641806

>>11641792
No way. The event needs to end so I can just stop caring about it.

>> No.11641804

Can CVs damage submarines? or is it just CVLs or they can't damage submarines at all and I must be hallucinating things

>> No.11641808

>>11641804
Just CVL. It has to do with the fact that CVLs did conduct ASW operations for the fleet.

>> No.11641810

>>11641792
just don't do the event and take it easy, it's a game

>> No.11641816

Do remodelled ships eat up more fuel or ammo? my DDs in the expedition fleet reached remodel level.

>> No.11641819

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22192461

Just posting this to remind you all of RNG trolling, disconnect and other mishaps are the real bosses of the event.

>> No.11641820

>>11641816
Consumption stays the same but takes more to repair due to more hp

>> No.11641823

>>11641816
wiki

>> No.11641824

>>11641816
DDs don't consume more fuel after remodeling. Knock yourself out.

>> No.11641826

>>11641820
not everyone's stays the same. Kongou Kai 2 for example. ( Hiei Kai 2 probably too then )
I think the Tenryuu class also changes when remodeled. DDs generally don't iirc.

>> No.11641829

>>11641826
kongou only eats a bit more. It's worth it.

>> No.11641833

Get out Kuugen

>> No.11641842
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11641842

I want the anime to have yuri

>> No.11641845

>>11641829
That art, though, for both Kongou and Hiei.

>> No.11641847

>>11641842
Speaking of the anime, is there any confirmed genre or plotline yet or is it still a mystery?

>> No.11641849

>>11641842
Ooi x Kitakami
Hiei x Kongou
Tatsuta x Tenryuu
Akagi x Kaga

>> No.11641851

Less than 1 week left and still not Zuikaku. With my luck I might not make it.

>> No.11641852

>>11641849
Hiei x Kongou x Female Admiral

>> No.11641853

>>11641849
You forgot Chiyoda x Chitose

>> No.11641856

>>11641853
Kai 2 versions please

>>11641852
tall, long haired, busty, perverted female admiral is a must.

but this is all pipe dream. It will be a generic harem show. we all know this.

>> No.11641860
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11641860

>>11641856

What if Teitoku is Grandpa Teitoku and the show focuses on all the girls and their antics?

>> No.11641862

>>11641856
The admiral will be like the adults in peanuts.

>> No.11641874

>>11641860
I have precisely zero trust this won't be a fanservice filled show aimed at otaku only

>> No.11641878

>>11641874
Why couldn't they do this show like Legend of Galactic Heroes...

>> No.11641880

>>11641856
>>11641860
>>11641862
I'm expecting a Teitoku like Broducer in im@s

>> No.11641882

>>11641874
I have precisely zero trust that you have actually played the game and would want something else.

>> No.11641883

>>11641882
Joke is on you. lvl 51 teitoku.

>> No.11641886

>>11641883
Then how did you miss the fact that the game is fanservice aimed at otaku only?

>> No.11641892

>>11641874

I think everyone has accepted that there is a 99% chance the show will be awful, a 1% chance that the show will be mildly entertaining and if on the night of the next full moon a double unicorn is sighted at Yasakuni Shrine, the show will be the next Milky Holmes.

>> No.11641893

>>11641886
but I never said anything about the game being not that. If you backpedal any harder you're going to actually go back in time.

>> No.11641899

>>11641893
Great, then I want to go back in time to right before you posted and punch the shit out of you.

>> No.11641956
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11641956

Finally beat 2-4.

>> No.11641957

>>11641892
Worst case scenario for the anime would be something like Strike Witches.

>> No.11641963

>>11641957
strike witches didn't have a male protag

>> No.11641964

>>11641956
of all of them, I can't believe only your Akagi is unscathed

>> No.11641974

Best case scenario would be something like Sengoku Collection.

>> No.11641976

My Haruna's lvl20 now and I've still yet to see her clothes ripped off, I'm kinda happy, but kinda sad at the same time

>> No.11641980

Beat E4 on my 2nd attempt.

I used 2DD, 2CA, 2BB at an average level of 81.

On my first attempt I spent over 26k of each resource, 160 buckets, and 2 damage controls on 90 sorties before I gave up.

My second attempt went along much better with only 10k of each resource, 70 buckets, and 0 damage controls spent. I didn't keep track of how many sorties this time.

I didn't even do anything different between the two attempts and the second attempt was clearly way easier. I'm seriously hoping they don't make the next event this dependent on RNG again because it's just frustrating.

>> No.11641984

>>11641976
That reminds me I need to bring Shigure for an actual engagement before I remodel her to get the damaged sprite. She's level 51 and hasn't ever had a shot fired at her, thanks to 3-2 and expeditions.

>> No.11641987

Kotatsu or mahjong table?
I cant decide

>> No.11641988

>>11641957
Strike Witches is a best case scenario, mindless fun with no pretensions of depth. What we're probably going to get is a tasteless ecchi harem series like Infinite Stratos. Worst case scenario is a stupid drama that tries to make the audience take it seriously though heavy violence despite the cast being underage girls, like Elfen Lied or Madoka.

>> No.11641990

>>11641988
Infinite Stratos is a worse fate than Elfen Lied or Madoka. By a lot. I can't even describe how much worse. The necessary words just don't exist. It's like going to the movies and watching a 3 hour loop of rickroll instead while eating popcorn that is both rock hard and rotten at the same time.

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>>11641987
Depends, how much do you like your Kaga?

>> No.11641993

>>11641987
Kotatsu is for taking it easy. Mahjong is for tanoshii.

>> No.11641994

>>11641988
>>11641990
All the manga we have so far point to it not being a haremshit. I dont remember even seeing a male Teitoku in the 4koma and the Tenryuu manga so far is all about the kanmusus.

>> No.11641998
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>>11641988
>Worst case scenario is a stupid drama that tries to make the audience take it seriously though heavy violence despite the cast being underage girls.
They are warships as well as girls and 90% of them have memories of dying in battle. Just because they're young girls doesn't mean they can't fight. Mikasa Ackermann was fifteen and Petra can't have been more than eighteen.

>> No.11642000
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11642000

YES

>> No.11642004

>>11641998
No, having a war drama fought entirely by a cast of underage girls is stupid. It would take some very fine writing to make it work as a serious drama, and Japan isn't capable of it. Even with fine writing, I'm not sure it would work. Would you have taken Legend of the Galactic Heroes seriously if the cast was only underage girls?

Anyone wanting a serious war drama is asking for a huge disaster. You're basically going to get Gundam SEED, but with girls.

>> No.11642012

>>11642004
I think I might take it seriously to a point. I mean... Utawarerumono went down pretty well with me for one.

Slice of life with war trauma thrown in as gag of sorts would be nice imo. Akagi's hubris, Yukikaze having seen so much shit and all...

>> No.11642009

>>11641998
>SnK
Please kill yourself.
There is no precedence for dying when the majority of the game is cute girls getting clothing damage. Leave the dark interpretations to doujinshi. Let the anime be about what the game actually is.

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11642018

>>11642004
Only the destroyers are actually underage. Everyone else is in that "somewhere between sixteen and forty" age that characterizes all drawn Japanese women.

>It would take some very fine writing to make it work as a serious drama, and Japan isn't capable of it.
Well, yeah, it would be really hard to make it any good. I think it's possible. I wouldn't trust them to do it. A huge part of LoGH is politics and intrigue, but children have fought and died around the world before.

I don't think they actually WILL do it, but I think it would be nice to have a two-episode AU where everybody dies.

>> No.11642017

>>11642004
something like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvNeS01NlXk

>> No.11642023

>>11642018
>but I think it would be nice to have a two-episode AU where everybody dies.
Seriously, please end yourself.

Its a game about cute ship daughters losing their clothes, if you want to get off to people dying and other edgy grimdark shit then go find a different series

>> No.11642024

>>11642009
>There is no precedence for dying
World War Two called, says something about all these ships having had sunk before.

>Let the anime be about what the game actually is.
Heading out to the same period of ocean every time to conveniently beat up on the same elite light cruisers because it's free EXP isn't going to make for a very good show.

>> No.11642026

>>11642023
>Its a game about cute ship daughters losing their clothes, if you want to get off to people dying and other edgy grimdark shit then go find a different series
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21238139

>> No.11642028

>no So Ra No Wo To option
You guys. Please.

>> No.11642030

>>11642028
hmmm, KanColle in Sora no Woto style... I somehow just don't think it could work, at least in my opinion

>> No.11642034

>>11642028
This reminds me... I want more Sora no wo to. But I also don't want them to ruin it and I know that they will if they do a second season.

>> No.11642035
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11642035

>>11642009
The game is basically an alternate retelling of WW2 with the murrica replaced by alien ships.
I mean who wouldnt want to see Yamato being blown to oblivion in operation ten go?

>> No.11642036

>>11642023
Also, if you think the comic I added to that post was "edgy grimdark shit" there's something fucking wrong with you, really.

>> No.11642037

>>11642026
;_;

if there was size options, that crying emote would be the size of the goddamn Yamato.

>> No.11642039

>>11642024
The ship sinking mechanic is just a small aspect, that the fandom heavily acts upon. But this is only a small aspect of the whole work.
This isn't a doujinshi where you can just pick something interesting and roll with it. This is an anime, and for that reason, they'll stick with the overall tone of the game in general, in other words, fanservice and war trivia.

>World War Two called, says something about all these ships having had sunk before.
They sunk in history, so they should sink in fiction? They're personifications for a reason. You might as well just read a history book while pretending the ships are their respective girls.

>> No.11642041

Im surprised no one has has asked this but, why is this discussion happening on /jp/?

The only thing we need is that one guy saying how badly he wants to fuck a Wo and we'll be full /a/

>> No.11642042
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11642042

>>11642035
I'm happy that my favorite ship girl did not blow up during WW2. It's not even known her real end.

>> No.11642043

>>11642012
>>11642017
>>11642018
I guess it would be more accurate to put it like this: the premise is inherently stupid. It's very hard to write a serious war drama when your premise is inherently stupid. Strike Witches also has an inherently stupid premise, but they don't even try to convince the audience to take it seriously and just run off of light-hearted character interaction. Kancolle is not representative for the life of actual child soldiers fighting in wars today, that's just dumb.

Yes, an inherently stupid premise still can create decent war drama, like Space Battleship Yamato or Turn A Gundam. But it's going to be very hard to take a cast of young girls fighting a war seriously.

And just having, "noble sacrifice, she dies to let everyone live!" isn't a war drama, it's nationalistic pandering. That's pretty much every Kancolle fan video online, sadly. A good drama should bring out the conflict between characters.

>> No.11642044

>>11642041
I want to fug a wo.

>> No.11642046

>>11642039
>This is an anime, and for that reason, they'll stick with the overall tone of the game in general.
I understand that the show won't actually be a war drama. I said I hoped there would be a one or two episode AU which is a war drama. Even the Evangelions went to high school.

>You might as well just read a history book while pretending the ships are their respective girls.
And you might as well just watch Infinite Stratos again.

>> No.11642050

>>11642044
You're doing it wrong, you need to use the same images he reposts every thread

>> No.11642051

>>11642044
nice try

>> No.11642056

>>11642043
>I guess it would be more accurate to put it like this: the premise is inherently stupid. It's very hard to write a serious war drama when your premise is inherently stupid.
That much I can give you.

>>11642042
That is such a good picture.

>> No.11642066

>>11642046
Eva wasn't advertising anything, and a shift from a darker mood to a lighter one is more appealing that a shift from a lighter mood to a more serious one.
If you're going to get dark and serious at any point, you'd better set that tone early on. Imagine Madoka if Mami died episode 11 and the first 10 episodes were Precure. There's absolutely no reason to include an episode involving serious war drama unless the vita game is going to be Kancolle Alternative.

Of course, I'm very much expecting an episode where the girls play fight and "die" dramatically, if you really want your war drama.

>> No.11642074

Let's just face it, no matter what direction they go in, the resulting anime is probably going to be very mediocre.

>> No.11642078

>>11642066
Okay, I've got it. The first episode is the deadly serious one, with all the dying and killing. Then in the the last minute of the episode it cuts to Tenryuu telling the destroyers a war story, and it's followed by eleven episodes of Strike Witches.

>>11642043
>That's pretty much every Kancolle fan video online, sadly.
Come again? Half of them are just gags.

This one is just a lot of sprits bouncing around the screen, but I like it anyway: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21936376

Watching the resources count down to Midway is particularly fun.

>> No.11642079

>>11642074
I'm not gonna face the truth just because you ask me to anon

>> No.11642080

>>11642074
at least there will be no lottery to watch it
or compass

>> No.11642082

>>11642080
Nope, only 5000 viewer slots every day.
Lottery cat will decide if you're worthy

>> No.11642087

>>11642082

I'm fine with that if they allow compass girls to write the plot.

>> No.11642089

>>11642082
You may also be directed to a footage of real-life WWII ships if the compass doesn't like you enough.

>> No.11642094

>>11642082
>>11642087
>>11642089
STOP IT
STOP IT
GOD
I'M GONNA HAVE NIGHTMARES ABOUT THIS
WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO ME?

>> No.11642098

I wouldn't mind a gag slice of life anime poking fun at the gameplay mechanics

>> No.11642101

>>11642087
Spin the compass to decide what the episode is about, its all up to luck.

The options would be something like cute girls doing cute things SOL, harem antics, shounen battles and romance

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11642102

>>11642098

>> No.11642111

>>11642101
N, NE, E, SE, S, SW, W, NW
8 things
SOL, Harem antics, shounen battle, romance, suffering, grimdark, random comedy like nichijou or kitabu, LOGH

>> No.11642117

>>11642111
I would modify the comedy one to be comedy about the gameplay mechanics.

>> No.11642120

>>11642111
I like 4 things better, if you get something like SW then its just a mix of two things like harem and shounen battles for example.

That way you can mix and have multiple things in one ep for twice the fun

>> No.11642127

>>11642117
"Akagi-san, what are you doing?"
"What do you mean?"
"Those orange blocks... I don't think they're edible."
"Oh this? I... I don't know. I just got back from practice and somehow..."
At that moment a Kongou with a bucket over her head walks past them, grumbling about her sisters hogging the bath.

>> No.11642128

>>11642098
The 4koma is basically what you are talking about.

>> No.11642129

>>11642120
or you could have only one thing in that episode and it'd make no difference from having 8 directions in the first place

>> No.11642136

>>11642128
I think the 4koma's nice but it's kinda lacking something to me, I dunno, maybe how it never pokes fun at the ridiculous RNG of the game itself?

>> No.11642161

140 Buckets down on E5, still no Yahagi drop. Last 40 buckets running now, I think I'm going to get fucked by the event.

>> No.11642181
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11642181

Perfect S 2-3 sub run
Do people really get her off from B rank?

>> No.11642191

>>11642181
I got her from 1-4 my first time clearing it, though I do not remember what rank I got.

Mine misses shots all the time. Missigumo.

>> No.11642197

>>11642181
I've done a lot of B rank subs and haven't gotten her, only dropped on A rank.

>> No.11642198

>>11642181
>>11642191
I've been trying to get her since level 48.

I am level 71 now. I still don't have her.

RNG giveth and RNG taketh away.

>> No.11642203

>>11642181
Got three of those already. Makes up for some good modernization material.

>> No.11642241

>>11642203
You know she has the strongest ASW weapon in the game after remodeling right?

>> No.11642247

>>11642197
I am probably going to remodel both I8 and I19.
Double torpedo setup really helps for the boss node. I still need Hiryuu and having more makigumo is always good for the sonar.

>> No.11642260

>>11642241
Well, I always save one copy of each.

>> No.11642268

>>11642260
I used to do that... Then I hit 100/100.

>> No.11642273

>>11642268
You can't get a full Kantai collection unless you pay $20 minimum.

>> No.11642281

>>11642161
And here we are, 180 buckets used up. Yahagi didn't drop, Agano didn't drop. I'm fucked.

>> No.11642284

>>11642273
why would you need a full collection? most of those DD aren't really worth keeping

>> No.11642285

>>11642268
>>11642273
No choice anon.
It is time to scrap those shitty nigga CLs and CAs.
I am probably going to scrap all my remodeled mutsukis soon to make way for all the new *gumo and *kaze class.

>> No.11642288

>>11642284
>>11642285
Hating money is what separates the admirals who actually love their shipdaughters from the secondaries.

>> No.11642296

>>11642288
I hated money enough to buy 2 repair docks. I'm going to be eating instant noodles for a month now but it was still worth it

>> No.11642306

>>11642288
I am worried about registering my CC. I dont want to get ban or have my account compromised trying to get a new API link.

>> No.11642316

>>11642306
There are many paid VPN services that give you "30 days money back guarantee". You could try abusing that.

>> No.11642318

http://apr.2chan.net/may/b/src/1385092254240.png
Now this is interesting. Gumo class doesn't drop in E5 if you don't have S rank.

>> No.11642319

>>11642318
I am not sure if I should be happy that I got Zuihou and not Agano or Yanagi.

>> No.11642339

>>11642319
I like Chelly's voice better.

>> No.11642340

>>11642319
Zuihou is at least craftable at the moment

>> No.11642347

>>11642319
At least Zuihou is practical. Agano classes's performance doesn't really match their resource consumption rate.

>> No.11642379

>>11642347
Their hotness justifies their resource consumption rate.

>> No.11642511

>E-2
>Go all out
>End the boss node with all of my ships red, heavily damaged, having taken the boss down to about 70HP
I really need to reorganize my firing order and get sparkling if I want to beat this. Eugh.
Acht Acht better be worth it.
So, is it better to go defensive or offensive with 4CAs and 2BBs on E-2? I just want to get my fleet to the boss node in decent condition.
Also would it be worthwhile to send a shitty support fleet as opposed to no support?

>> No.11642518

>>11642511
I hate to break it to you, but you get Warcrimes-tan from E-4, not E-2.

>> No.11642519

>>11642511
I beat it with this setup >>11642000
Everyone sparkling, double attack mode.

>> No.11642522

>>11642518
Welp, so much for getting her. What's the E-2 reward then?

>> No.11642523

>>11642522
Agano-class CL, Noshiro.

>> No.11642525

>>11642522
wiki

>> No.11642537

So a friend of mine just lost his Akagi in an attempt to do 2-4. The strange part is though, he claims his Akagi was full health when he was sortieing. She had no fatigue and was supplied before the sortie. She apparently sank when she ate 2 crits in a row from two BBs. It wasn't even a night battle either. It was a day battle, Akagi was at full health, and she sank from two crits.

He reached the dead end node, P, when attempting to do 2-4, and I asked him if he did any night battles prior. He said he did two night battles prior to reaching the node, and I figured it might have had something to do with him running out of fuel and ammo upon reaching node P, but apparently he still had two bars of fuel and ammo after he retreated from the battle.

>> No.11642542

>>11642537
Your friend was either high or was half asleep while he was doing 2-4. He probably accidentally sent her crit Akagi to the P node in red.

>> No.11642544

>>11642537
Impossible. At least the "sink on orange" argument is backed by official statements from the devs.

>> No.11642548

>>11642537
He must be Admiral Abrar.

>> No.11642555

>>11642537
are we doing this again, really?

>> No.11642562

>>11642555
We have to do this everyday lest we forget.

>> No.11642566

>>11642537
So a friend of mine just lost his Akagi in an attempt to do E-4. The strange part is though, he claims his Akagi was full health during the sortie. She had no fatigue and was fully supplied. She apparently sank when she ate two cut ins in a row from CAs. She was the flagship and it was a night battle.

What do?

>> No.11642573

See guys. I CALLED IT. I totally called the fact that full health IS sinkable.

You should all sit in base and twiddle your thumbs forever. Or buy more damage controls.

>> No.11642579

>>11642573
Time to throw in 20,000JPY to get 100 damekon and save my ships! Otherwise, I'll be sitting in my base forever, fearing that the ships will be lost forever the moment I leave the base.

>> No.11642581

>>11642537
>>11642566
Obviously you guys have to just move on and craft a new Akagi

>> No.11642610

>>>/a/97173839

Latest 4koma, remember to buy that kotatsu.

>> No.11642620

>>11642610
I am going to do it for Kaga.
I hope I wont regret it when the winter furnitures come out.

>> No.11642643

>>11642610
But... the mahjong table... tough decision

>>11642620
Is kotatsu not a winter furniture?

>> No.11642649

So...Musashi's at 40. Is it worth the remodel? Her fuel cost already rapes me at 500 per support refill for the entire fleet.

>> No.11642653

>>11642649
Do you want a free 46cm?
Also why are you sending her out for support?
I only used her for PVP so far and she is already lvl50.

>> No.11642661

>>11642649
make sure you sortie to a normal node and get her damaged sprite before you remodel her, as her remodel gives her a slightly different sprite and damage sprite.

>> No.11642669

Why are light cruisers in this game pretty much useless? Asides from ktkm and Ooi that is

>> No.11642676

>>11642669
They're great ASW, and pretty good at night battles too.

>> No.11642684

>>11642669
Best ASW, nothing can do better than Yuubari and Isuzu at killing subs, and they are nearly as good as CAs at night battle for far less resources.

i do wish they had a bit more firepower though, especially with all the Kai2 and high firepower DDs being added.

>> No.11642708

>>11642684
>Isuzu killing subs
I refuse to believe that anyone uses that ugly abomination.

>> No.11642716

>>11642708
She kept critting other people's subs with a depth charge and sonar attached. On her first remodel.

>> No.11642726

>>11642684
Same. I'm starting to warm up to CLs now because of how deathly effective they can be at times while being resource efficient.

>> No.11642733

>>11642708
>ugly abomination.
That is the price to pay for additional stats.
Isuzu went from a cute twintails girl to a slut whoring titty monster.

>> No.11642731

>>11642708
I really don't want to level her, but my goal is a complete card collection one day, fuck.

>> No.11642734

>>11642684
pretty much provided only if you have depth charges and sonar though, probably not as useful for newer admirals

>> No.11642747

>>11642731
she looks significantly better at Kai 2 form

>>11642734
which are piss easy to craft after T-level 50 or so because the recipe is so inexpensive, you could easily net a dozen sonar for under 1k of each resource.

>> No.11642752

>>11642747
I've got four shitty sonars but I'm still holding out for the good ones. Sixteen depth charges, though.

>> No.11642762

the RNG in this game is so retarded sometimes, I watch an entire pvp battle with both my fleet and the enemy's missing each other and in the end dealing close to zero damage

Then I get a C or D rank

>> No.11642771

>>11642747
>>11642734 >probably not as useful for newer admirals

>> No.11642787

>>11642762
you know you can just refresh if you get a bad pvp battle

>> No.11642789

Have been taking 15 to 20 minutes to sparkle every ship to 60+ morale for E-7 runs and using a support fleet. Haven't gotten anything but an A, 3 retreats, 1 NE a C loss and an error musume. I can't take it easy anymore.

>> No.11642794

>>11642787
I can? Did not know that

>> No.11642799

>>11642787
>>11642794
Enjoy your bans, cheaters.

>> No.11642803

>>11642799
but muh flash crashed... I didn't refresh my browser intentionally

>> No.11642855

>>11642789
I know what you mean.

>> No.11642863

>>11642789
You think you're having it hard? I've wasted 210 buckets and 20k each resources in the last two days farming and all I've gotten from it was Agano.

>> No.11642876

>>11642863
I didn't get anything good at E5. The one Imuya is useful for 1-1 sparkling, but that's all I've gotten out of it.

>> No.11642924

>>11642789
I just had a fully sparkling fleet forced retreat with D defeat because all 6 ships got taken to red on the first node.
It was just miss, cut-in, miss, cut-in, for the entire fight.
I still have enough resources to keep going for awhile, but that just completely destroyed my morale.

All these screenshots of people getting Nagato, Naganami Yahagi and Zuihou from E-5 with only a dozen runs... They don't help.


btw, people probably already know this, but basically the outcome of a fight is decided as soon as you chose your formation. F5ing at that point won't save your ships from dying.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22300107

Do note the player in that video is complete scum with an extremely grating voice.

>> No.11643040

>>11642924
that three digit fuel and 5 digit ammo, I didn't even know it's possible to have such imbalanced resources

at least I knew about this a long time already, not sure about the others

>> No.11643053

>>11643040
Expedition 2 all day, every day.

>> No.11643059

>>11643040
Expeditions for fuel give ammo as well, repairing takes out fuel and iron. That's how you get your fuel down but not your ammo.

>> No.11643072

>>11643059
So you're saying you can magically repair your ships without going for sorties which will cost even more ammo than fuel?

The right answer is that he obviously crafted with high fuel usage.

>> No.11643084

>>11642924
>http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22300107
What a silly nip. I wonder if he actually did finish E5.

>> No.11643086

>>11643072
The ammo consumed is much, much lower than the fuel consumed for repairs once you go with BBs and CVs

>> No.11643110

I'm surprised that Yahagi, Musashi and Yamato aren't considered a higher rarity tier than the one that Nagato/Mutsu are in, considering that they all have red particles around them.

>> No.11643115

>>11643110
Those are sakura, not "red particles"

>> No.11643200

>There is currently no proof that ships will sink more easily under a low fatigue state. Given the performance cut they get, it is, however, not advisable to take them to battle like that in general.

really now

>> No.11643218

>>11643200
Is that from the English wiki?

>> No.11643229

>>11643200
yarly.

>> No.11643238

>>11643218
Yes.

>> No.11643244

>>11643238
It's wrong, obviously. This is why you need use the Japanese wikis instead. Fatigue can sink you at orange health, this was confirmed by November 2013 Comptiq.

>> No.11643253

>>11643244
There's a couple of video on nicodouga which contradicts what you said, they sent out ships in moderate damage at red/orange fatigue and the ships still miraculously survived at 1HP.

I believe one of the video was also posted here.

>> No.11643254

I guess the orange health sinking is over it's fatigue talk now?

>> No.11643259

>>11643254
My friends dad works at DMM, he said ships don't sink at all, everyone saying otherwise just wants you to panic and don't finish event maps.

>> No.11643261

Will you spend your resources to craft Yamato?

>> No.11643266

>>11643261
Didn't someone post that you need a cash shop development item to craft Yamato?

>> No.11643270

>>11643266
You also need your docks to be expanded before you can be able to craft her.

Also, every attempt uses a furniture fairy and 1000 silver coins.

>> No.11643275

>>11643270
9999 of all resources is the minimum for a chance at her too.

>> No.11643283

>>11643270
Pretty sure it's 1000DMM Points and not silver coins.

>> No.11643284

>>11643259
The part less credible in that statement is you having friends.

>> No.11643286

>>11643270
>>11643275
Wow, definitely can't even try to craft for Yamato then. I don't hate my money too much

>> No.11643287

Is the best way to get silver coins really running expeditions?
I've been trying hard for two days running expedition 4 and 6, but I've gotten about 8 packages in 32 hours of running them.

>> No.11643291

>>11643287
'cause your luck's shitty, I got 8 packages running expedition 6 alone in the past 6 hours

I find buckets/boxes drop less often in expedition 4 compared to running expedition 2 and 6, might be just me though

>> No.11643292

>>11643287
You can always try running through 3-2 to get furniture boxes instead if you're desperate

>> No.11643293

>>11643287
I sparkle my ships for expedition 4, can get 4-5k coins a day running those two.

>> No.11643296

>>11643287
just running 6 alone all day gives me about 15-20 boxes, you're just unlucky

>> No.11643298

>>11643293
Sparkles don't affect item chance.

>> No.11643300

This game gives me a raging boner everytime I see the shipgirls. Wouldn't mind making that cute Inazuma moan non-stop while I pound her.

>> No.11643301

>>11643298
Really? because I almost always get something on a perfect expedition.

>> No.11643308

>>11643301
only one way to know for sure, extensive testing

>> No.11643314

>>11643300
It could be worse. Nowadays it becomes bothersome whenever I see a passage like this:

>However, during the voyage, her tube boilers began to leak profusely, and she had to be repaired in Colombo Ceylon by a repair team sent from France.

Because the image that comes to mind is a shipdaughter with torn clothes and oil dripping off her skirt and panties instead of a damaged ship leaving behind an oil slick.

And then she is sent to the docks to be molested by repair fairies.

>> No.11643318

Do sparkles wear out from expeditions? If so, how many expeditions does a sparkled fleet's sparkles last? Say, after a 1-1 sparkling.

>> No.11643333

>>11643318
Yes. I'm not sure, some last longer than others. The sparkles from pvp wear out after a single one.

>> No.11643335

>>11643318
No they don't.

>> No.11643336

>>11643318
They updated the english wiki's fatigue section, go check it out.

>> No.11643342

>>11643333
>>11643335
>>11643336
Thanks. I'll test things out.

>> No.11643374

>>11643318
x2 MVP sparkles last about 2 expeditions

>> No.11643378

>>11643374
MVP is actually the less important part. flagship by itself gives 3x as much as MVP
sortie = -15
flagship = +10
MVP = +3
S rank = +1
Night battle = -2
Expedition = -3
so 1-1A and withdraw = -1 even at perfect S = never sparkle
1-1 2 nodes, both S rank is +13, which at the natural cap is 49+13 = 62. after 4 expeditions thats 50, still sparkle by 1 point

in during people can't fucking read the wiki

>> No.11643381

>>11643378
the wiki was slightly confusing to me, when you explain it like that it gets much more clearer

>> No.11643382

>>11643378
FTFY
mvp+10
flagship +3

>> No.11643385

>>11642924
There's actually a window of about a second where you can refresh after selecting the formation.

>> No.11643387

>>11643382
I can only google tl the jp wiki and from what I could interpret it either way

>> No.11643411

New thread
>>11643409

>>11643374
I meant to type 3. At least that's how long Chiyoda's sparkles seem to last as support fleet flagship.

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