/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I'm at the very end of Futagoza. Such a kamige.

>>11638748
Sarcasm aside, good, bad, decent?

>>11638752
It's about as good as Owaru sekai. Maybe even better. I really like how they have two protagonists, and how they switch point of view. Some scenes were simply epic.
The focus is always on the story, and not so much on the heroines. Just how I like it.

>>11638769
Sounds good then, I was excited for both this and Gensou no idea because dual MC, but in the end did neither.
Idea is supposed to be decent too, which is a shame.

>>11638775
Yes, I also have Gensou in my backlog. I guess that will be my next game.
I ended up playing this first because of the Owasekai/futagoza fandisc coming out soon.

>>11638751
The updated designes are so nice. Ilzaab actually looks threatening now and Latina looks allkinds lewd there, it will be nice to able to save her in IF routes now, if we go by the implications in the site that its one of the possible IF routes.

This must be some kind of mistake by the writer, too progressive.

>>11638863
I bet they both end up sick. Just you wait.

>>11638881
And then she dies, and it's all his fault.

>>11638884
I think it's something about Japanese rain. Their clouds are full of germs or something. Maybe it's because of all the pollution from Chinese factories.

>>11638888
Spoken like a true jap
>chinese are to blame for everything!

>>11638891
Not everything. Some things are the Koreans' fault.

>>11638897
If Koreans and Japanese agree in something is that the chinese are always to blame.

>>11638748

Me too, I guess. I don't like the chuuni stuff which happens at the end of Souji's route, but I guess it's only natural given the setup.

Hopefully, I can start Ao's branch asap. She's the only heroine I really like.

I'm relatively new to VNs, but I've only been playing what people call kamige one after another (Muramasa, Baldr Sky, Dies Irae, Little Busters, Muvluv, etc...) Less than 10 series.

Do you think this is ok? Or am I ruining other non-kamige for myself?

>>11639004
>LB
>muvlub
>kamige

Guys i just finished Tsuyokiss Full edition, and it seems like 2 gakki and 3 gakki are continuing from a bad end so i will have to play every heroine's route again (which is a good thing since i love all of them except slut teacher) but im not sure if i should play those immediately after first one or 1-2 weeks ago since playing same thing 3 times in row seems like a little hard. if there is some person who finished those 3 and would give some advice i'd be seriously glad.

>>11639013
Well, I said what people "call" kamige.

Though, I do think muvluv is overly shat on over here just because /a/ is in love with it. I agree those stupid threads on /a/ are annoying, but I think MLA itself is only a tier below Muramasa overall.

Guys i just finished Tsuyokiss Full edition, and it seems like 2 gakki and 3 gakki are continuing from a bad end so i will have to play every heroine's route again (which is a good thing since i love all of them except slut teacher) but im not sure if i should play those immediately after first one or 1-2 weeks later since playing same thing 3 times in row seems like a little boring even if i liked it. if there is some person who finished those 3 and would give some advice i'd be seriously glad.

>>11639023
Search Tsuyokiss on the archive. I'm pretty sure someone already answered your question, or I'm going senile from eroge withdrawal syndrome.

>>11639035
sorry,i only found the answer of "can i play tsuyokiss 3gakki full edition without playing other two".

I installed and started up 戦女神VERITA. I got this error message after only a couple minutes. Should I assume this is because I downloaded a dummy cut version and reinstalling it from a proper version would fix this problem? I just wanted to make sure before starting to download an 8 gigabyte torrent.

>>11639049
proper version would fix that problem

>>11639049
Why would you ever download a dummy cut? limited download or something?

>>11639053
For verita is 3gbs less to download, saves a lot of time.

>>11639054
Is it worth the chance of the dummy version failing and having to download the normal version?

>>11639050
Alright, thanks.

>>11639053
It had the most downloads on nyaa and had that trusted user green status. I figured it would be fine. Lesson learned.

>>11639058
Zero had a proper fix for it, maybe verita got one too.
I mostly found these problems with eushully for these, most dummycuts work well.

>>11639062
> Zero had a proper fix for it, maybe verita got one too.
Fix is same for all eushully games.

>>11639004
I'm not sure if I understand you correctly.
Do you mean like, once you have played the ones regarded as the very best, everything else will be too shitty for you?
I don't think you have to worry about that. New games are being released all the time and we get at least a few very good ones every year. It's just that nobody talks about them outside this thread.
Some months won't be very exciting though.

>>11639084
>Do you mean like, once you have played the ones regarded as the very best, everything else will be too shitty for you?
More or less.
I tried playing a nukige once. I just ended up skipping all the text until ero scenes showed up because it was so bland, but maybe that's extreme.

>>11639023
Depending on how fast you read, I'd take a few days off at the very least.
I only read my're favorite heroines and the new heroine's route in 2, but the heroines from 1's routes were almost a literal retread of her route in one, but with events adjusted to account for the change in time of a few months for one, and the same general plot for the other ones.. Same thing for their routes in 3, but with a bit more changes to account for the amount of months that had passed and what not. The new heroine's routes in 2 and 3 were fairly different I think.
The common route and specific gags and what not are all completely new though, but that's a given.
I'd probably read something else in between reading 2 and 3 personally if I were to do it again.

>>11639091
No I do that too. I just can't bring myself to care about story in nukige. I think it's pretty common.

>>11639092
i see,so in short most of routes are same at 2 and 3 with 1,its something like kind of remake atmosphere then. well as i said since the first one really good i will certainly play other two too, but i guess reading something else between those will be a better choice. thank you very much,it was a really big help for me.

>>11639099
But you miss out on gems like "Son, your penis will explode if you don't ejaculate every so often. And if you masturbate your penis will explode anyway. So you better ask you're imoutos to help you out."

>>11639112
would asking for a source that be a crime?

>>11639120
たまはじ！

>>11639099
What the fuck

>>11639126
>たまはじ
tyvm

>>11639099
>I think it's pretty common.

Depends. As long as the story is centered around the fucking, I can take, and sometimes even enjoy it. I drop it completly if it's just a mindless setup for the fucking though.

That said, such games are mostly in the darker corner of the spectrum, sometimes even NTR.

But I like the.. how should I call it? New Wave of quality Nukige? Tittyge? Stuff like minori's latest work. The future looks promising - at least for quality nukige.

Translate it weebs.

>>11639308
膣内射精

>>11639308

No. But take this ahegao instead.

>>11639365
You mean ahoge.

Just downloaded a version of Wanko to Kuraso that actually seems to work and not crash on launch, and am looking forward to playing the shit out of it.

>>11639514
much troll

>>11638751
I wonder who's going to be voicing Celica. I guess the person who voiced Satia would make the most sense, but I wonder how well that would fit.

>>11640077
Kawashima has pretty good range so she should able to make some good voice for Celica. Although I can't really start to imagine how Celica sounds and what kind voice would be correct.

>>11638751
Aparently theres mistake in that comparison pic, the black haired guy at the end of right side isn't Lorain but somone else.

>>11634974
>>11634608
I'm warmly waiting for these and Rance 9.

>>11640215
It looks like 狗神煌 is going to be doing art for the qoo game, so I might check that out too.

How long it takes to learn Japanese well enough to be able to read something like Muramasa, KKK or Dies Irae? After 5 months of studying I can just read some moege.

>>11640332
You have to eat a japanese to be able to read those.

So I finally found myself some time to read some Muramasa.
I chose Ayane route for my first ending and I have to say that it's kind of disappointing so far.
Yeah, that 善悪相殺 was pretty mind-blowing and all, but now when I started Eiyuu hen it's really boring. Maybe it's just because of that contrast. I mean, the fifth chapter has really good suspense and ended up really well... Even the beginning of Eiyuu hen was really good but then they continue like that...
I can't say it's bad but it's just... I don't know, maybe I'm not cut for the politics shit in general.
I hope something starts happening soon.

Should I start blacklisting all those amateurish OELVNs on vndb, or will the blacklist get too big?

Just finished Aina's route in WLO. Overall, it wasn't that good of a route, but it was still somewhat enjoyable, even if there really wasn't much of a plot to it (mainly because of Samoto Fuurin and that Aina herself was pretty cute). It was a lot shorter than I originally expected, but I was sort of thrown off by seeing the total script size is just under four and a half megabytes, and kind of expected it to be really long.

So far, I'm actually somewhat impressed with this game, but I'm probably just going to read through Yuriko's route and maybe Ina's before calling it quits since I don't really like Hotaru all that much and I really don't feel like sitting through 2 MB of foreigners.

On a side note, I was kind of surprised with how much condoms have been brought up so far. Even if they weren't really used so far (unless I missed something in one of the later h-scenes), I don't think I've played an eroge where they show up so much.

>>11640385
Just set your default filter to OJPLVN.

>>11640386
Aina's has the shortest route in the game.
Most of the length of the game come from Arisa's route,

new info on daitoshokan FD on August's website

>>11640394
Will it finally be time to fuck the lesbian?

>>11640386
I don't like it when they bring up condoms. It reminds me I need to pull it out and cum outside. When I don't get to choose where to cum I get real upset.

If they actually use a condom - which is pretty fucking rare - you can be damn sure it breaks or some shit. They notice it but still decide to cum deep inside because whatever.

>>11640411
Eroge girls' menstrual cycles work in mysterious ways; they'll never get pregnant no matter how often you cum inside. Unless it's convenient to the story, of course.

>>11640411
I literally switched routes when the MC went to get condoms to bang his childhood friend

Seriously what the fuck

>>11640471
It's the normal thing to do, teenage pregnancy is terrible.

>>11640481
>implying

>>11634096

>>11640489
The heroines look kinda boring.

>>11640504
I like plain looks on heroines, really.

>>11640504
>>11640506

It can be a nice change from the typical outlandish designs.

>>11640506
It's nice to see a game where the heroine's hair colors don't mimic a rainbow.

>>11640511
>>11640512
I think bright hair colors are cute, it's not like I read VNs for the realism anyway.

Then again I found Amagami's designs quite nice even though they were plain as well.

>>11640516
Yep, I miss them from time to time, inogrey at least delivers by the year.

>>11640516
I didn't say they were bad, it's just a nice change, like >>11640511 said.
My favorite color is silver, so it's not like i don't get your point.

http://products.web-giga.com/bsz2/

>>11640411
The last eroge I played that used condoms in a hscene (quite recent actually) consisted of using a condom, taking it off and then emptying the condom inside.

... I don't even know what was the point in using one.

Alcot~

>>11640593
They are all guys (and one sexy girl for some reason?)

>>11640398
I'll be a bit miffed if August doesn't throw her a bone. Besides wanting to fuck her bitchiness out of her, I really like her appearance, and to be honest I actually agreed with her point of view during Kodachi's and the True routes even though the underhanded tricks she pulled were wrong.

On another note, the heroines from Houkago Shippo Days are there on the character page too. I'm looking forward to seeing them get some more screen time.

>>11640624
Yes, there's nothing like fucking the bitchiness out of a person like her, the post-sex deres tend to be a wonderful thing.

>>11640521
Took me a few seconds to realize that she's wearing a Squall uniform.

>>11640521
Dat delicious Marel.

>>11640662
Shizel looks so weird in Squall uniform, why is she even wearing it in there because she used it like once in that gag-scene and otherwise she just used the Fenrir one. Still can't get my head around the fact that she got route, it just doesn't feel like she needs one.

>>11640675
>it just doesn't feel like she needs one.
She's an interesting character worth exploring that didn't get much background in sky.

>>11640675
It's not about what Siesta needs, it's about GIGA needing something to attract more sales after the not-so-positive reception of the first part.
I honestly think her route wasn't planned even once before the release of BSZ.

>>11640682
Was the reception that terrible in Japan? It looked to be perfectly fine to me when leaving alone the fact that it had its unfinished bits.

At the very least it was definitely better than Material Brave.

>>11640677
Yeah more background for her isn't bad thing, but I just don't feel Shizel need a route for it. Handling it more like Noi was handled in Dives;exloring her character on the side of all the other things that are going on. And if they need "filler" route before Marel route Rina would have been fine, or Malta because a Cat is fine too. Clarice is out of question though due to Dom.
Not that I have problem Shizel getting route, but it just feels weird.

>>11640682
I don't think BSZ1 had that bad reception as it wasn't GIGAmine but actually decent/good product, but yeah it feels it's there to attract buyers.

>>11640685
It sold well, but many people didn't like the content.
>Sky asset butchering
>Ed being a cold-blooded maniac
>Inferior combat system
>説教
>LN level writing
>Messed up tempo
Are some of the comments I saw on 2ch, and it got a 77 on EGS.
People here seem to like it much more than Japs.

>>11640695
I can agree with some of them but I don't understand their problem with Ed. Oh well, Japan.

>>11640697
One specific line that stuck with me was
>平気で人を殺すヤツらは虫唾が走る
Which is funny, considering that both Tohru and Kou stopped caring about the people they kill only a few chapters into their games after brooding about it just once, thrice at most.
People who honestly think like that shouldn't be playing Baldr Games in the first place.

>>11640697
Agreed, some of the points I can understand, but them having problem with Ed is one that I disagree most.

>>11640705
Yeah, hell even one of the poinst BSZ made was that SAS is fucked up place where death is your everyday thing and isn't seen as something special there. So people having problem with things like that shouldn't really be playing it.

>>11640537
What's the name?

>>11640705
I don't know what they want instead, should they have ran around peacefully "knocking out" their enemies and then start a whole tantrum spiral whenever they caused someone to die?

I can accept that if it were some random highschool moege but it's awfully out of place in the setting the story takes place in.

Maybe that's why we get all of these generic protagonists.

>>11640888
yay new rape

>>11640489
That fucking name, Jesus Christ.

>>11640974
How do you even translate エレクトリーチカ?

>>11640985
Electricica, pronounced in an italian way?

>>11640720

May be they want the easier appearance of death like in Dive series, where only a few directly dies on screen and they die more heroicly, even for villain. As we all know, Ed is much more straight with it and they rarely sugarcoat it much in the dialogue, even on the nasty experiments, hence also the "Ed being a cold-blooded maniac".

>Maybe that's why we get all of these generic protagonists.

I don't know, may be that's how their buyers like it.

>>11640985
Probably "Electrityka" with the "ty" read as チ or something like that?

>>11640990
Yeah, that's basically the line of thought I have, though her description says she's from Russia. I don't know the least bit of Russian, though, so maybe that doesn't work.

>>11640985
Google says it's a Russian word which is romanized as Elektrichka.

>>11641018
So the twist is that she's a sentient train

Reading through Carnival. Holy shit, what a... what a fucked up scenario. It's going however the fuck it wants to go, all out.

>>11640411
>you can be damn sure it breaks or some shit

Heh.

>>11641043
Her tummy's so seductive!

>>11641070
What game is that? It has a built in flowchart?

>>11641078

双子座のパラドクス. The flowchart is important since you have to switch from one viewpoint to another.

>>11641077
I like her shoulders more, and she's so cute overall.

>>11640350
Muramasa is really not nearly as good as people here claim it. The characters are decent, the story ok, the theme is too edgy for me and in the end I couldn't even finish the game because how much it bored me.

In comparison, I finished MLA in one session with almost no break, loved the fun in Majikoi or gameplay in Rance and Eushully games, and I got depressed over White Album2 for weeks and even couldn't sleep well and had no appetite during that because I just kept thinking about it. Muramasa is just another medicore VN compared to those.

>>11641106
Did you at least get to the last route of Muramasa?

>>11641118
I was on Chachamaru route before I stopped, I think.

>>11641121
It would have been pretty awesome if Chachamaru actually had a route.

>>11641126
Well, then whatever route you do after you are done with the first two girls.
The last scene I remember was hugging Chachamaru in the destroyed city when that "thing" emerges from underground. It's been a while since I played it so it's a bit vague.

>>11641106
It's obviously not for everyone but if you don't understand why it's considered to be a great VN at all and call it mediocre compared to something like Majikoi of all things you kind of have to be fucked in the head.

>>11641126

Yes, best girl (imo) gets no route.

>>11641151
Then I am. I also remember the racing bit being extremely boring and required much willpower to actually go through.

>>11641158
The racing bit was where I really began to fall in love with Muramasa personally.

>>11641106
It has some weak spots but I wouldn't call it mediocre at all. Especially in comparison with Majikoi as someone stated above.

For me it's maybe that they're going through the same theme (Eiyuu nanka ja nai... SEIGI DAAAAAA!) in the Ayane route again and again and again.

But I'm really looking forward to Kanae route. She with Soyo is the best duo of this novel so far.

Also picture related, it's the best girl.

Is there something holding up the english translation of Mahoyo?

>>11641264
Dunno. Ask here >>11627711

>>11641264
Lack of sex I assume.

>>11641262
>Also picture related, it's the best girl.
Raichou's whole character is one of the reasons I love Muramasa so much. He could've been just another token okama in any other story, but here, he's actually competent and deserves all the respect he gets, even though he might suck at politics.

>But I'm really looking forward to Kanae route. She with Soyo is the best duo of this novel so far.
Kanae is my favorite heroine, but be prepared for some long "Choose your own adventure" scenes. I liked them, but a lot of other people didn't.

>>11641425
Rokuhara in general was pretty hilarious.
I just really wish they actually fleshed out Chacha-kageaki vs Raichou more rather than skipping to the conclusion. It had so much potential to be funny, romantic, and badass at the same time. It felt like Nitro+ pulled a Katanagatari sabi hakuhei on me or something.

>>11641264
Wasn't there a russian guy that translated the trial? What happened to him.

I've been away from the VN scene for a while. Have there been any news regarding new nitro+ games??

>>11641106
>arguing opinions with opinions
look at this fool

>>11641682
Necromancer was announced a while back. The writer is one of the guys who worked on Psycho-Pass. And in case you missed it, Totono came out in June (not that you'd be missing much, honestly).

>>11641692
>Necromancer
Is the art done by the gekkou no carnevale guy?

Have there been any news about muramasa?

>>11641696
>about muramasa?
Why would there be?

>>11641698
I remember urobuchi saying something about muramasa anime

>>11641696
>Is the art done by the gekkou no carnevale guy?
Yes.

>>11641696
According to a recent livestream the game version of 贖罪編 is still getting made, they also suspiciously ignored all questions about Narahara.

>>11641713
>贖罪編
Which chapter was this again?

Went back to gensou no idea, regretting dropping it because I couldn't manage to get the nodvd to work.
It's both pretty fun and the scenario seems interesting so far, liked the spin they did with the cool and composed/naive and young dual main characters since the personality of the later is the opposite you expect at first glance.
Wish the art was less wonky at parts, pic related has probably the best sprite of the bunch and the angles of some CGs are just so awkward.

Where the Nukige thread at?

>>11642236

Poof.

Want to make a new one?

>>11642269
Kinda, not me personally though.

>>11642282

Well, here you go >>11642294

Dropped.

>>11642343
Why would play that in English to begin with?

>>11642343
Oh man, whatever happened to that "fixed" version that popped up in retaliation of the official?

>>11642361
The translation is still absolute shit. You should probably just read it in Japanese.

>>11642298
Thanks Nigga.

>>11642363
>You should probably just read it in Japanese

Well you honestly should do that with every VN but whatever

>>11642369
There are actually a few that have translations that actually are pretty good, but for the most part, that is true.

>>11642371
for example?

>>11642371
I'm curious. Please tell me which ones that aren't "RUB A DUB DUB" tier translations.

>>11642374
>>11642373
What I read of Grisaia's translation was actually very well done and Symphonic Rain's translation was also rather good. Some of the official translations for nitroplus games are supposed to be pretty good too. That said, I personally would still read them in Japanese just because it bothers me seeing text in one language and hearing voices speaking another.

>it bothers me seeing text in one language and hearing voices speaking another
Wow I never even thought about that. That must suck. Or maybe that's how they like it.

>>11642386
>it bothers me seeing text in one language and hearing voices speaking another
i got used to that after years of fan subbed anime

Haven't gotten around to the Grisaia series as of yet but it's nice to know that the translation for it is decent, i don't even remember the translation quality of Symphonic Rain anymore.

>>11642406
Hey, are you still advertising Walkure Romanze on /a/ You know making them read untranslated VN's is an exercise in futility right?

>>11642422
I've given up on posting the copypasta unless somebody asks for it which for some reason almost happens in every thread i join ever since i stopped posting it

Clochette going hard with their advertising on getchu

>もしかして：おっぱい？

>>11642641
>もしかして：おっぱい？
Well isn't that what people would expect from them?

>>11642641
I thought there next game was coming out on 2014-05-30? isn't that a tad early?

>>11641698
Because there's a five-year anniversary next year, I suppose?

>>11642641
Guess Clochette is rolling in money.

The banner at the top isn't enough, they have to annoy you with a non hideable popup box.
I wonder how much that paid for this.

I just finished dive 2.

Jesus Christ, what a kamige.
Muramasa was great too, but I've got to say the Dive's ending is more emotionally packed for me.

The developments toward the end were getting so damn cheesy, but I loved every moment of it. Hell, the entire route was so different and fresh too. Also, the end leaves such a bittersweet aftertaste..., not that it's bad thing at all.

I'm reading Amairo Islenauts. So far so good.

>>11642990
Where does WA2, DracuRiot or Kegare Tsubasa stand for you?

>>11643004
I've yet to play those yet, I'll get on WA2 after a bit of a break since I've been playing a few long VNs in a row. I'll play a few shorter ones like asairo first.

>>11643004
>kegare tsubasa
are you talking about 穢翼のユースティア?

>>11643008
Yes.

>>11643011
穢翼 = あいよく

>>11642990
Bittersweet? Did you read the true route?

>>11643017
He probably couldn't. You don't get that plugin if you only have Dive 2 installed.
I had to use SpoilerAL.

>>11643017
The one where sora and kuu become one and catch kou right before the 特異点 disappears and they all dream about what could've been I mean, unless I accidentally got the wrong ending or something. I still need to finish normal end.

>>11643004
>DracuRiot
Is that actually good? It seemed pretty silly to me so I skipped it.

>>11643025
I personally didn't like it, but it has decent production values.

>>11643024
I'd rather not spoil anything so I'll tell you to check a walkthrough if you want, never knew you needed Dive1 for it though.

>>11643030
It's purely based off of what you do within the route if I remember correctly.

>>11643032
That and the plugin 永遠の終わり should be on.

>Clochette
I'm amazed at how they manage to make every single character look almost exactly like characters from their previous games.

>>11643030
Huh, I have baldr sky 1 installed.

It says the requirement is "good end" for every route, but I thought I already did that...I may have continued from a bad end rather than a good end at one point, but I've got no idea. Fuck. Am I going to have to re-do some route, then? Maybe I can just download a cleared file, since I've already seen all of the ends (just didn't save them all)

>>11643085
It needs to be listed in the ingame flowchart.

There's a plugin that allows you to jump directly to a scene via the flowchart. Just use that.

>>11643094
What's it called? I don't think I have it.

>>11643097
I don't have the game installed anymore, but you get it after finishing Sora's route.

>>11643101
I thought you got battle skip after like... seeing every single end.

Just check the true requirements in the baldr wiki. The individual routes themselves didn't matter iirc.

So I finished Ayane route (Muramasa) yesterday and I have kind of mixed feelings about it. I mean, the idea of justice was nicely explored from both sides, the "evil" and the "good". (Paladin Masamune was pain in the ass at times. And it was delightful when he got nearly crushed that boy who's name I just forgot confronted him with the fact that nothing is only black or only white.)
On the other hand, there were just too many scenes that even didn't have to be there. At least for me.

Overall it wasn't bad at all but it should have been shorter in my opinion.

>>11643049
>Navel
'm amazed at how they manage to make every single character look almost exactly like characters from their previous games.

I just started Dear Drops recently. I decided on going for the Rimu route first. She's so cute.

>>11643289
Be aware than every route but Riho's is cut short and basically a glorified omake

>>11643294
Ugh, that's sad to hear.

>>11643295
Well regardless you're playing the only good Overdrive game so you will probably enjoy the game entirety

>>11643299
Kira kira was a lot better than deardrops.

>>11643299
Is KiraKira bad, then? I've heard good things about it but not from anyone whose tastes I know well enough to trust.

>>11643304
Pointless drama for the sake of drama

>>11643306
Edelweiss
Kira☆Kira
Dengeki Stryker
Green Green
and their sequels

Never touching again ever. i don't know if you will enjoy them but I'll tell you i did not enjoy any of the titles i have posted above

>>11643310
>Pointless drama for the sake of drama
And DD wasn't? The drama there was even worse, not to mention how it basically has one route.

>>11643313
The drama that was in DD wasn't bad enough to make me drop it midplay, and considering i don't remember any horrible drama in DD i probably found it at acceptable levels. feel free to remind me of the pointless drama if you want

I will agree that 1 route with slightly different ends was a very bad move althou

I really enjoyed Kira Kira's roadtrip, wish there's other VNs like that.

The only Overdrive game I ever finished was Bokuten. I just wanted to know when the story stops shitting on its characters to make place for some happiness. Yeah that never happened. I swear, utsuge are fucking pointless.

>>11643321
The road trip was the only enjoyable part of KiraKira for me, it all goes downhill from there

>>11643322
Utsuge have to be written well in order to enjoy, Overdrive in my experiences just doesn't do this genre right, they can do group of friends decently enough even if the friends themselves are generally low tier

The Bradyon Veda trial is apparently getting released tomorrow, really curious if it turns out to be any good.

>>11643319
>feel free to remind me of the pointless drama if you want
Riho, as a character, was a terrible cunt in herself and all her drama surrounding her absolutely pointless.
Let's compare her to Chie from Kira kira, whose main drama was simply having divorced parents and not being sure what she should do about her dad.
So yeah, kira kria's drama was grounded in reality for the most part and the segment in kirari's normal after she dies blows anything DD could ever have.

>>11643326
That's a weird way to make NVLs in HD.

>>11643322
> I just wanted to know when the story stops shitting on its characters to make place for some happiness

This happens in pretty much every Overdrive game

>>11643327
>Riho, Chie
Well it's kinda of obvious in that comparison that Chie was a better character

> segment in kirari's normal end after she dies blows anything DD could ever have.
I simply hated Kirari's route and it's endings


Well, now that I've re-looked up the drama that was in DD, i consider it barely passable, but still did not enjoy the rest of Overdrives games. although there were a few good characters in the games, they were unable to redeem the games they were in for me. Never playing another Overdrive game again.

>>11643322
but bamboo told me it wasn't an utsuge so it must be true

>>11643339
I guess that instead of being a landmine, Bokuten was a punji stick trap.

I'm sick of emotionless heroines, I know they're sort of cute but it's starting to get boring.

>>11643344
They are easy to understand and deadpan is also a moe point. People gobble them up like crazy.

I hate them too. Having autism is no excuse.

>>11643350
Autism is moe, or so I've heard.

Personally, I'm indifferent to them. Occasionally there's an entertaining deadpan snarker, but rarely do I grow up to like them much. The deadpan sometimes comes from some nasty trauma in their pasts, which tends to create annoying drama in their routes.

But it's all up to one's personal taste, I guess. I have a preference for soft-spoken deredere heroines, but many people seem to find those boring.

>>11643368
I also like them, right after flirty deredere heroines.

>>11643344
I like them.
What I'm really getting sick of tsundere. Occasionally there are some likable ones, but overall they're terrible.

>>11643377
>flirty deredere heroines
We really need more of these.

>>11643379
Tsundere are so widespread because they're easy character development.

>>11643377
>flirty deredere heroines.
Assertive flirty deredere heroine

Match made in heaven

>>11643379
The "good" Tsunderes are generally classic version of Tsundere in my experience

>>11643384
At some point Tsundere will get to the point that it hits "childhood friend" blandness

>>11643386
Tsunderes are go if they go for the easily flustered not abusive kind.

>>11643388
Which is what a Classic Tsundere is, Modern is the Abusive kind

>>11643392
Hell no, classic is a girl who goes tsun->dere, modern is tsun->dere->tsun... abusiveness has nothing to do with it.

>>11643326
The writer doesn't seem to have a good record, but who knows? We had good writers who spawned major fuck ups, so maybe we'll have a reverse here.

Personally, I'm sick of 女騎士 heroines.

I hate the childhood friend that gets jealous then gets abusive the most. Just having them urges me to drop whatever I'm reading.

Touma from WA2 is the taciturn tsundere kind and people like her a lot more than Setsuna who has a character that is very hard to see through.
At the end of the day, people just like what they can comprehend. And a tsundere is one of the easiest to see through.

>>11643394
Touche, guess I've seen so many abusive Tsunderes lately that the line blurred together

>>11643377
I like those a lot too. Actually, I probably just like deredere heroines in general as long as they don't take it too far and act like a bitch to others. Plus, I like it when a heroine gets lewd.

>>11643396
How did that those get so popular, anyway? I see people calling them "Saber clones" a lot. Was the original Saber just that popular or were they already really popular before?

>>11643405
Saber has plenty of same faced clones to begin with and she is popular (Still think the Fate route is terrible although), forgive me for posting a /a/ picture here

>>11643405
Saber was just that popular, don't ask me why because I found her quite boring and with a crap romantic relationship with Shiro.
Then again, they liked Arc a lot too, she was even worse.

>>11643405
They've been around a very long time; mostly shown in classic shoujo such as リボンの騎士. It's always been a stock sort of character type where 'cool' heroines are concerned. Even nowadays in shoujo/yuri series you'll have a cool beauty type who's into fencing and whatnot.

>>11642374
I actually really liked G-senjou's translation, from what I can remember of it. Sharin's too.

Personally, I'd rather moon > localized TL > shit > regular TL > heavily meme'd up TL.

>>11643413
half of that picture is literally the same character with different outfits, though, if you wanted clones you could have picked other characters

>>11643396
Me too, they feel like visual shorthand for someone who wants to write a strong and noble character but doesn't really want to bother too much.

>>11643427
It's just cropped from a full version that contains A lot more of same-face or same-personality. in the case of the "Sabers" it's the same-face (i didn't make the picture) i could argue about different personalities but this isn't a fate thread on /a/ so i won't.

>>11643431
Yeah that tends to happen with archetypes in general, they're basically a shortcut for less skilled writers since the characters write themselves.

Would anyone happen to have a link to 果てしなく青い、この空の下で? Preferably the 2009 version as that's voiced. I'm unable to find any seeded torrents or ddls, unfortunately.

>>11643487
http://www.anime-sharing.com/forum/hentai-games-38/japanese-[091030][topcat]-果てしなく青い、この空の下で…。-完全版-特典-[1-17gb]-43290/

- Release : 2009/10/30

The bitshare links work, don't know about the others

>>11643502
Damn, I never even thought of anime-sharing.

Thank you, friend. Have a marvelous day.

>>11643101
Alright, apparently I needed to get every end of every route saved in order to get the skipping function (I already read them, just didn't save them with one clear file). So screw that. Also, I couldn't find any complete save data for dive 2. I just watched a video of the end.

I guess I'll take back the bittersweet now, then. Sweet end. Still Kamige.

Lately I haven't been able to get my mind off pure love incest. It's like an itch I need to get scratched. Could I get a recommendation on a game with blood related imouto heroine, where the route has semi-depressing forbidden love themes? Doesn't have to be translated.

>>11643878
Yosuga no Sora as a popular title... well rather than popular, well known seeing as it has an anime.

More recently I suppose there's Cocoro@Function? It wasn't really depressing though.

Now that I think about it, although there's countless numbers of eroge with imouto characters most of them are either not blood related or the incest business gets shrugged off in 5 minutes because no one cares.

>>11643130
For me, I didn't really feel muramasa was all that much until the final route where everything falls together.

>>11643885
That's the problem. There's some really good themes to be explored with incest, but most writers seem to be afraid to approach them. Or they think that imoutos are just an archetype with a couple of traits associated with them that have no real impact on the scenario.

>>11643903
I think it probably has to do with the tone of the story. Many of the stories are relatively light hearted and throwing in some forbidden love themes with a blood related imouto would probably ruin the atmosphere by being really heavy (if seriously approached, that is). That or the story focus has nothing to do with forbidden love and it would be off topic for them to start dramatizing it.

So they decide to write it off as something negligible where all their family and friends seem to just accept it as "Sure, why not?" and the story reaches a happy ending.

In the end it seems like the story really only seriously approaches it if that's the core of the story or it fits the theme as it did with Yosuga no Sora.

Speaking of which, typing this made me recall. There was one nice imouto route in Koikishi if I recall correctly. Whether or not she was blood related or not I don't remember but at least there was some degree of conflict. Some degree.

>>11643917
Fujimori Yuu and she is blood related

>>11643878
There's Natsu no Ame, but it winds up being resolved fairly quickly, if I remember right
Otherwise, I can't really think of many with a depressing forbidden love theme as most that try that in my experience wind up being so poorly written that it just comes off as annoying and painful to read than actually moving.

>>11643878
Try Myself;Yourself, it has a rather heavy and depressing sub plot with your best friend and his sister. If you can find a working download that is. I sure couldn't.

Funny fact, its rated 12+ and has a yandere lesbian, mother committing adultery, insane father, multiple suicide attempts, sibling that might or might have not been having sex and a mad granny that wants to sacrifice one of the heroines to a tree. Who the fuck rated that 12+...

>>11643917
I've heard that the imouto route in Koikishi was actually really bad and wasted potential of a yandere incest route. Might have been a case of not doing what you mentioned in your post by having drama that was handled really badly, but of course that's just my guess. Maybe I'll get around to playing it sometime next month, though, I'm rather interested in it.

Personally, I prefer having no drama rather than potentially having terrible drama, so I'm okay with writers staying far, far away from reality. Whenever I'm playing an otherwise lighthearted game and the writer decides to enter the drama zone (not necessarily just incest drama), chances are it's going to be a pain to go through. Not because it's an emotionally painful masterpiece, but rather because it's terrible and you'll wish you could go back to the flirting. And besides, 2D girls are at their best when they are smiling.

But back to the incest, there was 運命予報をお知らせします mentioned a few threads ago, which supposedly takes the incest thing seriously.

>>11643943
As long as there's no lewd acts there's absolutely no problem!

>>11643952
Hm, well I frankly don't remember anything about Koikishi beyond the imouto being a cute character.

Agreed on the drama though, no drama is much better than terrible drama that doesn't build up to anything interesting. Too bad that's something many writers don't seem to understand.

Then again, without drama the story may seem a little empty due to the lack of any conflict or problems.

>>11643878
運命予報をお知らせします
夏空のペルセウス
Maybe the bad end of Hapymaher, though it's not really enough to go on.

I feel your pain.

>>11643962
Wasn't a FD announced for Hapymaher?

>>11643964
Yeah.

http://www.purplesoftware.jp/products/hapymaher-fd/index.html

>>11643968
Can't wait for more Maia.
Can wait for more of the same writing style.

>>11643968
Hopefully that means a Maia route.

There's going to be blood if the FD rolls along but they still do nothing but tease us with Maia.

>>11643952
>I've heard that the imouto route in Koikishi was actually really bad and wasted potential of a yandere incest route

this is correct, It was a major letdown, and i saved Yuu's route for last as well

>>11643878
I haven't read it yet but I've heard good things of Tasogare no Sinsemilla

>>11643878
http://vndb.org/v750

It definitely goes down the "forbidden love" path. Some might find it overly dramatic, but I liked it.

>>11643970
>Can't wait for more Maia.
Oh boy, me too.
>Can wait for more of the same writing style.
Oh boy, me too. Though honestly it wasn't that bad. The writing in Totono was worse for me.

>>11644052
I could actually finish totono, fucking walls of text about absolutely nothing at all in hapymaher killed me.

>>11643269
Neah, she at least changes the hair design.

It's just me or this fucking letter to mc mother in ruitomo is fucking hard to read?

>>11644973
I haven't read the game but I just remembered this.
>The letter in the second script is far more difficult to translate (or properly comprehend) than anything else from any other game in this post.
From Moogy
http://tsukuru.info/b/?p=1294

>>11645014
>It’s just for fun so please don’t take it too seriously.
This isn't the Moogy I know and love.

Navel makes new brand
According to some people a tweet from Jackson might imply he will be involved, I'm just really sure from the silhouettes if it's Nishimata
Anyways worth looking forward to the details

>>11645635
*not really sure

>>11645014
Harder than the letter in MLA? Damn.

Finished Carnival, what a ride. It was like tons of games I liked put together; with elements like multiple personalities, erudite protagonist with all that background, loyal to death heroine, the list goes on, it felt a bit crude at times but it was so plot-driven and non-stop that I didn't care about it. I feel like I'm not even allowed to compare this with the other games because it was released way before(2004) them, haha.
Especially enjoyed the hold-nothing-back feeling and perspective changes, and also felt the drama was very realistic. I only wish it was a bit longer, overall a great read.

>>11645704
Damn, I felt exactly like Takeru when Aoyomine pulls the letter and start telling the hidden meanings, just in this case I haven`t anybody to clarify for me

What is the worst VN that you've ever played?

>>11646153
Everything overdrive made.

>>11646153
Suigetsu 2 probably ranks very high in that, it was offensive in so many regards.

>>11646153
A lot of the worst ones I dropped and promptly forgot about. That said, Shiny Days stands out in my memory as being pretty awful.

>>11646156
Pretty much.

>>11646163
Not Cross Days?

>>11646186
Only because I didn't play that one.

Senshinkan trial 2 is next week, same day as Electro Arms' release.

>>11646220
Maybe this time it won't become terrible after the midway point.

>>11646220
What is this? A remake?

>>11646153
If consider only japanese, and non-nukige, then 揺り籠より天使まで. All characters there are fucking disgusting.

>>11646220
I wonder if they know what half of those words in the subtitle mean

>>11646224
This is pretty much what I'm hoping for. Chaos;Head was kinda lost in Steins;Gate's hype, so maybe they just want to give it the attention it deserves.

And I hope they don't forget about my FES.

>>11646220
They should stop fucking around and port Noah to the PC goddammit!

>>11646238
>so maybe they just want to give it the attention it deserves.
It had two whole years worth of attention on its own.

>>11646241
I suppose they think it deserves more? S;G is more than 4 years old, yet it's still getting new releases.

>>11646228
I'm a retard who couldn't read. Anyway, what the fuck...

>>11646247
Well, it's been by far the most profitable of the bunch. Reminds me the movie rips will come out next month.

>>11646220
I hope it focuses on the protagonist's delusions instead of stupid D-sword shit. I never dropped anything so hard in my life.

>>11646220

Nice, now it's their chance redeem themselves with more delusion settings, a "fixed" version o Chaos Head Noah. Personally I gave them benefit of the doubt with Chaos Head even though some bits were iffy, it was their first venture into VN (from my understanding it was mostly 5pb, nitroplus just show them the ropes, like a broad guidance/tutor role, rather than heavy input).

>>11643326
http://www.akatsukiworks.com/product/bv/down.html

Let's see how that goes.

Just finished 薫 route in AkaNoGoei. WTF was that? Not even single h-scene.
Does she have proper route in fandisk/sequel?

>>11646468
Hope it gets to external sites fast, region blocks aren't cool.

>>11646470
As proper as akagoei gets.

>>11646470
That's actually the canon route.
Shumatsuron continues from that.

>>11646484
http://holyseal.net/cgi-bin/mlistview.cgi?word=%83u%83%89%83f%83B%83I%83%93%83x%81%5b%83_

There's some on Holyseal now.

>>11646506
Thanks for the link, I was about to check there myself.
Downloading as well, might be cool enough to be worth a read.

>>11646220
>no sex scenes
dropped.

>>11646220

oh boy chuuni school shit

Suits like this in serious games still look retarded.

>>11647087
Nice drills.

>>11646403
>D-Sword design: CHOCO

>>11647087
When will aliens invade earth so they can bitchslap then?

>>11645014
The Moogy's translation of it is horrendous, and that's not because the difficulty.

So, for those watching the White Album 2 adaptation, how is it compared to the VN so far? I was planning on reading CC after the anime finished, but if the adaptation is leaving out to much I'll just read it all.

So I started Kanae route in Muramasa and I have to say... Kanae and Sayome looks pretty fucked up so far. I think I'll like this much more than the Ayane route.

I have been playing flyable heart as my first vn in japanese. I did finish one route, but I am too bored with it to get through a second route. I will probably just drop it, but I'm not sure yet what I want to read next.

Can anyone suggest me some games which would make me laugh hard please? i have played 30-40 untranslated vn so far,and of course almost every game had a couple of laughable scenes but only tsuyokiss & ren'ai 0 kilometer made me seriously laugh hard.i have finished majikoi and hitotsu tobashi ren'ai too but they werent as funny as originals.in short please count a couple of games you have played and found really funny,Thanks as always.

Can anyone suggest me some games which would make me laugh hard please? i have played 30-40 untranslated vn so far,and of course almost every game had a couple of laughable scenes but only tsuyokiss & ren'ai 0 kilometer made me seriously laugh hard.i have finished majikoi and hitotsu tobashi ren'ai too but they werent as funny as originals.in short if some people could count a couple of funny games i'd be really glad,Thanks as always.

>>11647632
What route did you do? My favorite routes were Kururi and Sakurako, so try those. It did get repetitive at the end though.

>>11647766
I did Yui first, which might have something to do with it. I am maybe halfway through Amane's route at the moment. She was my favorite character though the common route, but her route is not interesting me at all.

I don't care much for Sakurako, but I do want to try Kururi's route.

I've been playing Subahibi and I'm in the part of It's My Own Invention where Zakuro dies. I have a sneaking suspicion that Yuki and Takuji are the same person. Split personality?

>>11647551
Honestly, as a fan I find it to be as faithful as possible given the circumstances. Maruto tweeked the script a bit to make it more suitable to anime format, but you do end up missing some importantish bits of narration which add to the charm.

>>11647753
I found both Princess Witches and Twinkle Crusaders to be pretty funny.

>>11647805
Yeah, i also liked Amane's character but didn't enjoy her route. On the other hand, i wasn't interested in Sakurako at all, but her route was pretty good.

>>11647820
I guess i'll read it later then, it isn't really long, is it?

>>11647835
Thank you very much,i will download both of them tonight then.Specially twinkle crusaders seems pretty good,i think i will play it first.Still waiting a little more of suggestions though.

>>11647849
It's shorter than Muramasa and Yu-No

>>11647916
I was talking about the first chapter, since that's the part the anime is showing, that i'd have skipped.

>>11647903
Princess Witches, while quite funny in the first half, gets more serious later, so if you want more of a pure comedy Twinkle Crusaders is probably the right choice to start with.

>>11647926
i see,it seems like playing twinkle first will be a better choice as you said,but as long as it makes me laugh and doesnt have depressive endings i dont have any problem so definitely will play princess witches too.Thank you very much.

>>11647753
I had some crazy laughs when I played Love-ressive. Garuuda-san is a funny bird. Yes he is. Besides the humor, the game isn't that good though.

>>11647990
I think I enjoy comedic VNs more than others but I couldn't bring myself to read much of Loveressive, even with Garuuda.

>>11647990
Tried playing that but I couldn't get past the artstyle.
There's something off-putting about their faces.

>>11647753

For me personally Prism Ark was the funniest eroge for some reason.

>>11647753
>>11648251

I forgot, Akatsuki no goei also had alot of laugh scenes. Certain parts of oretsuba was also a riot.

>>11647922
You are missing out if you skip IC, your loss.

>>11648770
I had just said I was going to read it after all, even after having watched the anime.

It’s almost December, so I guess I will pick a date to start reading しろくまベルスターズ soon.
Christmas spirit ahoy.

>>11649965
Santaful☆Summer

>>11649971
I don’t live on the equator or in the southern hemisphere though

ONe route of Gensou no idea done, pretty good, it's a bit over the place at times but there's always something happening, handled well the fact it had to do two heroines in the same path.
Also noticed the videos won't play for some reason, wish I knew why, may be some codec problem, but it's annoying.

New thread >>11650421