/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>11625741
What are these kinda outfits called?

>>11625761
KI-Gathering- Underwater-Rummaging-MItosis- negators

>>11622079
>>11622266
I recognise the North High Uniform.
Is that supposed to be long haired Haruhi or Kyonko?

>>11625805
Kyonko, that's @cocoa_box if I'm not mistaken.

>>11622794
Play with me.

>>11625741
These are all men (traps) in these threads, right?

I'd commit multiple homicides for this girl..

>>11626153
Does it even matter? Look at this thing:
>>11626152
They are rejected spawns from a factory.

>>11626153
Not all of them, some are women.

You people are really lovely, but I still find this creepy.

>>11626152
Also her.

>>11626160
By the nine divines, did he/she stuffed his/her dress with food?

>>11626157

>>11626163
Nyanrietta has been known to have a sick sweet tooth.

>>11626178
Why are you doing this /jp/, don't tell me you honestly find this monstrosities attractive.

>>11626180
b-but..

>>11626194
butbutbut ... this is photoshop

>>11626201
obviously, it was to make a point.

where is the kig porn

>>11626201
>this is photoshop
Yes, but still...

>>11626180
I was under the impression it was one person making these threads and that same person was the only who posted in them.

>>11626218
Something tells me it's actually a couple, and I feel it's like a drug you get used to, it becomes part of your file.

>>11626221
It helps if you already like dolls.

>>11626223
Those are not dolls my friend, they are supposed to look like the girls in the animes.

>>11626233

Like dolls.

>>11626233

Anyone have their own mask designs or planning to buy one?

>>11626249
>>11626252
Enough, let's not post too much, otherwise the thread will start to lack kigurumi images.

>>11626253

I'm planning to buy one. It will take a while (queue issues). Why?

>>11625741
>Kigurumi Church Survivors
>it was just another Sunday morning church session for a Jesus-loving congregation of kigurumi until zombies suddenly attack and now the kawaii killers have to put the dead back into their graves in the name of the Lord!
Who the fuck am I citing?!

>>11626263
Just a question to jump start some conversation.

>>11626268

Hmm, so what do you wanna ask?

>>11626270
>>11626253
>>Anyone have their own mask designs or planning to buy one?

>>11626276

So you just want to do a poll then.

>>11626278
Im trying.

>>11626264
link please?

>>11626280

I thought you had a few questions about it.

>>11626267
Directed by Michael Bay.

>>11626253
i have this design modeled to look more like a dollfie but im not sure if theres anyone with enough skill yet to make it.

>>11625751
S-something wrong with her shorts!

Higher the head closer to anime god.

>>11626426
There is nothing wrong with it

>>11626152
Anyone know the maker?

>>11626492

Raigeki. It's a chinese maker. I can't remember the website.

>>11626283
http://yangguangyuhou.blog.163.com/

>>11626513
>http://yangguangyuhou.blog.163.com/Chinese ... not Japanese?

>>11626513
doubt its a guy

>>11626589

Chinese kigs have gotten pretty fucking good lately.

>>11626635

It is.

>>11626704
Can you prove it?

>>11626669
This one's a man.

>>11626663
I’m not into these, but that still looks bad.

>>11626771

And?

>>11626733

No, but why would you assume it is a girl? It doesn't matter, really. It's like going into 4chan and trying to guess who posts in here and who does not. It's pointless.

>>11626790
It seems like a lot of effort to try and become something you're not.

>>11626806

That's what's nice about kig. The challenge.

The kigger that has the nicest body though is definitely this person.

>>11626846

Yes indeed.

>>11626806

Wow it's almost like that's the whole point of masks. You must be a fucking philosopher.

>>11626846

source?

>>11626504
http://raigeki.blog.163.com/

>>11626218
iirc kigurumi was one of the most searched for terms back when easymodo was a thing
(if not the most searched for term)

really opened my eyes when I first heard that

>>11626846
cutest miku tho

>>11626846
I prefer that one Mokou with the godly thighs

That SeeU is a behemoth..

>>11626967
What the hell with those legs. That guy looks seriously underweight.

wait but isn't it usually guys who where these?

>>11626977
wyu masks are huge so it skews your perception of proportions

>>11626846
the zentai looks not great at the arms though.
>>11626924
the innocent look of this one is great too.

>>11627029
Even comparing them to the girl next to him, or my own legs (I'm a guy). He just seems incredibly thin. The sagging socks don't help. I think he could do a lot better, even with his massive height, if he worked on his posing and the socks.

>>11627040

That's why I'm kinda afraid of kigging. Too tall!

>>11627129
But that's exactly what I'm not saying. His height is a negative, for sure, but if he didn't just kind of droop there with his legs spread he could make it work. He's not posing at all.

>>11627145

It's kinda hard not to do so when you're tall. You gotta build muscle to support your posture. Tall people usually have weak muscle when they're thin because they burn more calories, so it means less fat and proteins. It's kinda hard to find a balance.

>>11626218

I post most of the stuff in kig threads but there's another one or two who post close to about a third of the content.

I hate these kinds of kigs because these are just weeaboos with money to burn, whose with me?

>>11627230
>I hate people having fun their way, they should do it my way!

You sound like a fucking child

>>11627230

They work and spend their money with whatever they want. If they didn't work, I'd criticize as well.

>>11627236
that one has rich parents or various boyfriends buy his masks for him

>>11627262
jealousy isn't a particularly good reason to hate someone anon

>>11627262

I'm not interested in their personal life. Thanks. If that's really how they get their kigs, then you'd know my reaction.

>>11627267
just giving the facts
he isnt a good performer
he just feeds the creepers for free shit

>>11627278
Do you know them personally? Do you even know his real name or what they go by atm??? Because I don't think you do.

>>11627289

Stop being a white knight, just ignore gosh. It isn't so hard you know?

>>11627293
Im not trying to be a hero, i'm calling out a dumbass. Theres a difference.

>>11627307

Is it worth?

>>11627314
Well they've shut up, and made no effort to support their statements. It was worth.

>>11627329

By now. The more I want to use a kigu or do stuff, more it seems like the community isn't for me. People love to shit on others it seems, either by scamming or badmouthing people.

>>11627339
This is only the 4chan community, there's a lot more people out there that would love you! Go for it!

>>11627346

>implying that most of this thread are not the samefags in the community

>>11627346
>implying most of the posts in this thread are not made by the samefags in the community

>>11627329
why would I want to promote a bad performer
also its taboo to give real names out of kigus

>>11627376
Their not a professional, it doesn't matter how they perform kig is a thing for fun and expression.

>>11627390
why not post instead of talk

>>11627390

It matters 'cause you're exposing yourself. Feedback (either good or bad) is inevitable, you're just ignoring reality.

>>11627404

I agree.

>>11627405
Saying you hate someone on an anonymous forum isn't feedback.
If you had criticism to give someone you could just give it to them directly and when they told you that they don't care that is the limit of what criticism can do. If they won't listen to respectfully delivered criticism what is getting 100 people on a forum all calling that person a faggot going to accomplish? Other than making that person feel persecuted and reinforcing the notion that criticism is indistinguishable from bullying?

We don't care if you think someone's kigurumi is bad. We have eyes and can decide that for ourselves.
We don't care if someone is a bad person. We are never going to meet them (and neither are you).
We don't care if someone was mean to you. Yesterday a popular kig killed me and threw my body into the sewer, but since I'm anon saying this only makes me seem pathetic.

>>11628015

I wasn't hating anyone dude. It is expected in 4chan that you basically ignore and don't feed the trolls. You hate you lose.

And anonymous feedback is always better. Why do you need a face attached to feedback? To have a target to hate and ignore their argument? No thanks, I know how humans work.

You know when something is an argument and when something is simply offense. And not adding a face to it is even better because then you have to focus on the argument and not be distracted by the face saying it.

And really, I don't give a shit about the drama and that stuff. I don't care if someone's a bad or a good person. Like you said I'm not going to meet them.

>>11628080
>anonymous feedback is always better.

Ideally, if you had criticism to give someone you could tell them and they would put in the effort to understand it.

In the real world, people won't listen to you unless they admire you or you are a friend of theirs (and they aren't pricks).

People aren't rational. Unless the person you are criticizing is a saint they will see anything negative said about them by someone they don't know as a baseless personal attack.

You still have a face when you are anonymous, the person you are trying to communicate with will imagine a face made of a mixture of everyone who ever hurt them. Speaking as someone they knew could prevent this, but then they can simply say "I don't see you doing any better". There's no way to win really.

Changing peoples behavior is not easy. It is not even possible unless the person wants to change. You've set yourself an impossible task and limited yourself to the tool least likely to work.

>>11628247

Well, people not being ration is technically not a problem of mine. I can't do anything to change. I don't really care if they listen it or not, I just wanna say stuff. They'll get mad regardless in my experience, even if you play by the normal side. It doesn't matter, they don't wanna listen, but still I wanna say stuff and not being censored or badmouthed, cause they do that.

I believe also that this way is a better way. Think of it as this: people know it's not pure hate, you see it on the way it's written. They also know that they being paranoid about it happens 'cause of their stupid emotional side.
It's their option to control or be stupid. In the end, it might not be the most efficient way to convince people, but it is definetely the most open for discussion.
The real deal is not really to convince them of something, I don't really care if they change or not, it's more a thing like "listen to it, you'll get better", but the choice in the end is all on the one listening (or not).

It's like a democracy, it's clearly not an efficient system to get things done, but it is (in theory) fair and open to everyone.

>>11628283
people not being rational*
even if you play in a normal way*
I also believe*
you can see it on the way it's written*

Sorry i'm totally sleepy.

!!!

>>11626153
Haha, what little you know of the world

>>11626673
holy shitttooo

>>11626977
Western kigurumis tend to be unhealthy in stature. Either way too fat, or way too skinny. I wish I knew why that is.

>>11628559
I don't think that's necessarily true, i can think of maybe 3 off the top of my head that are overweight, as for being way to skinny most of the kigs you see western or not are extremely skinny

what makes a lot of western kigs bad isnt that they're to skinny or to tall its that they dont seem to give a shit about proper padding or posing for some reason, they have the idea that they can just wear a zentai and mask and thats it

oh and that asian men are stereotypically quite female in stature anyway

also another thing about a lot of western kig's is they don't seem to care what the mask looks like for their character
just as long as it has a basic anime style and the hair/eyes are the right colour

then again its the same with the basic sigma mould in japan so i guess it happens on both ends

have they come out with masks that have pliable lips yet?

>>11629317
that would be too lewd

>>11629317
Realdolls are your best option.

>>11629317
prepare for terror
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmEJJyl7Iqk
plastic coated tongue as well.

>>11629447
Looks good if you're going to be a serial killer down the line. Other than that, it just doesn't work unless the mouth also moves as well. Also the cheapness of it doesn't help make it any less terrible.

Anybody know if Nukopan ships internationally or just in japan?

>>11629544
You want to wear one of those damn things?

>>11629544

Internationally.

>>11629447
A bit rudimentary. I was thinking a mouthpiece could be made from onahole material and manipulated with a real mouth. The problem would be you couldn't talk, since to move it you would need to clamp down on a wedge that would open and close a mouth defaulting in a shut position. The lips would need to be pliable, using some kind of memory material, to allow for various expressions.

>>11629551
>The problem would be you couldn't talk

I don't see any problems here.

>>11629578
These are the Chinese masks, right? They would look so much better if the bridge of the nose didn't go all the way up to the forehead. Reminds me of Kaiji or something.

>>11629866

I agree. It should be more roundy as well.

>>11629546
well i don't know about the other anon, but i do, i didn't like his older work but the newer stuff is really great, to

also >>11629447
i think its just a regular (albeit pretty sub par) open mouth kigurumi with pic related being worn underneath

>>11629551
im not sure how that would work unless you made the whole mask of the same material, you wouldnt be able to paint it because it would chip and flake when you moved it, unless theres some sort of rubber paint im not aware of,

initially i thought something like that would just increase the creepy factor for most people which makes it pretty much impossible to pull of well

also it would be better if the mouth of the kig was actually inserted into the mouth of the performer no? it would allow for a lot more expressions mouth wise

>>11629980

imho the static face is better
it'd be creepier if they actually moved their faces

>>11630119
yeah thats pretty much what i thought it would only really work if they could make it look exactly how the character in the show acts/speaks and that includes eyebrows, eye shape, mouth, cheek movement etc

which would be completely impossible to produce without it getting extremly expensive (we're talking hundreds of thousands of pounds here)

At first i found those kigurumis creepy, but now i want to be one, and dress up as chen and honk honk people on the street.

I'm pretty decent at drawing, but can you find "template masks" or any masks looking like the kigus ones in europe?

>>11630194

Nukopan sells fairly good blanks but your body is an important decision factor on what mask you should choose, height-wise and weight-wise.

>>11630194
What euro kig are you talking about?

>>11630194
Someone posted this pic a few threads ago, maybe he's able to help

>>11630670
Derp, forgot pic

>>11630673
can you make it more round? right now it looks like the front and sides are on three separate flat planes. round the front into the sides, and have the eyes follow that curvature also. it'll make the mask look A LOT better

>>11631184

It's not the same guy. I think I told him the same thing some threads ago. I even posted some profile reference pictures.

Got a bunch of excavated lances doing lvl 90~ shagaru magara with some random guys. How much can you improve one of these? How do I know what's actually good after improving it to max?

>>11631213
Whoops, wrong thread.

>>11630194
>>11630673

I'll sell you a blank shell (and my masks can be scaled to any size since I 3D print them), but I don't sell the model file itself, if that's the kind of thing you were after.

>>11631184

Blender's shading does make the lines of the mask look sharper than they do once the mask is printed, although I probably should soften it there a bit more.

>>11631189

Thanks for posting them. Like you said, finding good profile pictures is tricky, and that blog post had quite a few. I've softened the cheeks as well as the area between the eyes including the nose bridge. I'll post pictures here right away

>>11631485

Hmm, I see.

>>11632116
Anime girls are not aliens, please stop vilifying them.

>>11632112
perfection

>>11625755
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBGW3EzP3Dw

>>11632121
wat

>>11632147
>those special effects
OMG no

is this a safe way to wear my seatbelt or should it be more taught

>>11632339

gotta love tokusatsu

>>11632358
wtf dude? wrong thread?

>>11632358
wat? also i cant tell if you have a dick or vagina? clarify please?

>>11632370
I hope it's a dick
Vaginas are disgusting

>>11632358

What's the cheapest way to make a good kigurumi? Not frp but not papercraft tier either.

Isn't the mask there to complete a man's transformation to a woman?

>>11632395

3D printers, I guess.

>>11632403

That and/or look exactly like a character.

>>11632415
I don't think it's very cheap if you don't own one already...

>>11632415
A character that's a different gender from themselves. Okay, sure ..

>>11632434

There's some females doing that as well.

>>11632429

Considering that you can do other shit with a 3D printer, it's a pretty worthwhile investment if you can figure out how to turn that into money. Initial investment costs probably thrice as much, but you can sell generic blank masks to people now at a much lower cost than FRP and recover the costs in no time at all.

>>11632440
ew, females?

>>11632497
this looks great

>>11632339
Confirmed for both shitty taste and having no idea about japanese television.

>>11632469

well a 3dpd with an anime mask > normal 3dpd

>>11632147
do those kigurumi suits (whatever theyre called in series) shoot dick beams because it sure looks like they do

>>11632492
This type of mask would be better if the top lip didn't look inflated.

Wyu masks look better than Sigma's mask imo.

>>11633746
I disagree, I like Sigma's better but everyone has their own tastes :)

>>11633746

You have bad taste and bad trolling skills imo.

the more i look at this kigs twitter (@koucha_nd), the more attached i get to the facial expression.

thank you, brain

>>11632469
Don't worry, they're probably ugly.

>>11634036
I think this guy blocked me a while back
which wouldn't really bother me if I weren't a fan of nadesico

>>11634413
Don't worry. The men are probably ugly too.

>>11632593
i know what you mean anon, he would be my favourite maker that style of his masks didnt have that lip overhang type thing, that and the mouths sometimes seem a little to high

>>11634570
some of the girls i've seen do it are quite pretty imo , i know what you mean about guys often not looking that great, im not sure what it is

>>11634666
only non-professional girl I've seen without mask is sandaime but yeah she looks good & also does regular cosplay

>>11634814
didnt even know they were female, ah well, I'm talking about western kigs like Yuu, Nichole and
Kuri

>>11634895
I think that's the case anyway, might've been misinformed

>>11634895
Yuu is male.

>>11635142
well they looks pretty damn feminine in their facebook photos (demasked) wouldn't you say? if yuu is actually male that would be the most feminine boy ive ever seen in my life

>>11635226
I know they're a boy because I used to know him when he was "Ashely", a discusion was about his old kig awhile ago.

>>11635451
*should i tell him now that Yuu and Ashley are 2 different people .... mmmm lets see where this goes*

>>11635506

Just a question guys: why is it so important to discuss that?

>used to be freaked out by kigs
>they turn me on now
What have you done to me, /jp/?

>>11635974
brought you over to the Light side of the force!

>>11635974
it's amazing how quickly (and how much) they can grow on you
it's really an infectious sort of charm they have

which is why I'm kinda surprised that there's still no place for kig discussion on futaba

>>11638522

Of course they grow quickly on people, if they are good and not creepy like some are.

>>11636787
I love those gloves
Tsubomi was wearing some when rimming a guy's asshole, it was great.

>>11638572
Yeah I've got a pair of gloves like that for when in my kig

>>11631485
that looks fine!

>>11638572
Yeah I've got a pair of those gloves for my kig. And what vid/manga/anime are you talking about?

>>11638566
yeah it helps that these threads have pretty high quality stuff

>>11638189
why does she looks derp

>>11638618

Old kig, they were still trying to figure out how to make it work.

>>11638618

>>11638618
i dont think the mask it self does, the heads just at a bad angle

>>11638566

It also helps that the overall quality of the costumes has improved immensely over the past decade.

>>11638651

Oh yeah, certainly.
Where did you find that pic btw? I'm too much of a fan of @menokomakiri

>>11638618
I like this mask

>>11635974
Kigurumi themselves don't arouse me, but the thought of being in a suit like that is super interesting for a lot of other special interest reasons.

I thought they looked really weird a lot of the time, but then I started seeing really interesting ones like >>11638651, or the one eyed one, or some others that were less "costumey" and more like 3d versions of 2d, and my interest spiked.
I just really don't like the "classic" sort of facial shape(ala 80's anime) a lot of them use, but I've grown to tolerate those in search of the more interesting and visually impressive ones.

I don't give a single shit about who's in them though, and I don't like lewd ones. I just see it as another form of cosplay, but with a lot more ability to be in character (no matter what you look like, within reason) and a lot less ego.

I also really like the doll aesthetic, which I guess was inevitably going to draw me to kigu.


As a side note, does anyone know of any ball-joint suits, or leggings and gloves? I think it'd be really fun to incorporate into fashion.

>>11639506
you may get interested in 全身タイツ rather than kig.

>>11631485
Here are some pictures showing my changes. I softened the cheeks as well as the areas on the inside and outside of the eyes. I also made the sides of the nose slightly concave and adjusted the shape of the nose bridge.

I tried to make the shape similar to that of some of the masks in that post that was linked a while back. Is there anything more that anyone else here thinks I should change?

>>11631485
Justin, it's great that you're making your own masks but it's really not that great when you try push your product onto everyone who is considering buying a kigurumi mask.

>>11639997
thank god someone fucking said it

>>11639997

He's clearly not pushing now, guy didn't even posted the link to his blog or whatever. He's asking for criticism instead, which is praiseworthy.

>>11639940

To answer you: can you notice the face is too flat? It needs a bit of angling. Also cheeks are soft enough but too low, maybe you need to bring them up a bit. Notice the lightning in those profile pics.

You need to soft the areas next to the eye cavity and make them blend more. Adjusting the surface area to put the eyes in a non flat manner might do the trick. (Again, observe the eyes in those pictures).

Also, bring the jaw and the nose to the front a bit, maintaining the chin parallel to where it is (see Nuko masks as reference, but don't make it too cheeky or it'll look like a baby and not mature), so you have more room to work on the cheeks.

Cheeks are the trickiest part and it's purely trial and error. They are too low now and are like a big rectangle instead of a soft area (usually some sort of triangle) where the lines of the eye cavity and jaw join themselves.

My opinion, you should listen to more people rather than just me.

>>11639997
I'm not meaning to come across as pushy, but maybe I am coming across that way. I'm not really sure how to tell people that I make masks without them taking it that way, though. I'm not on any lists of links to kig mask makers or anything like that.

Maybe I should just wait until more people have bought masks from me, and let them recommend me. However, people who are new to kig are often not going to know about me because I'm still not as well-known as many other makers.

And it's not like I'm claiming to be the best mask maker in the world (I have said I can make custom masks cheaper than anyone using traditional processes, but I wouldn't consider that to be the same as claiming to be the best in the world). I've admitted many times that I can improve a lot, and have asked for constructive criticism quite a bit.

>>11640126
Yeah, cheeks seem to be one of the hardest parts, especially because it's not always possible to see their shape on photos (it would sometimes be helpful if I had a mask from another maker in front of me).

>>11640195
not that guy but >>11640126
is basically everything you need to work on. Cheeks are way too low, bringing them up to a bit below the eyes would be better. You also need a bit more curve to the mask. Right now it looks very flat from the side.

>>11639901
Nah, that's not quite the right nail for the hammer to hit. I'm not very good with words to explain.

>>11640487
This is nice and all, but the padding killed it.
How do you make it not look artificial? What are your techniques?

>>11640495
This looked like a penis in the thumbnail.

>>11640707

I wanna ask about that too. It seems the foam technique a lot of kigs use has problems when they sit down or so.

>>11639506
>ball joint suits
does this tickle your fancy anon?.

>>11639963
>>11639949
cheeks and more shape to the eye area (less flat) have already been mentioned i believe
the main piece of advice id give is that the bottom lip seems to protrude more than the top lip giving it a bit of dumb look,

my main other issue is the way the mouth sort of curves into a point in the middle of the lips? it might just be the lighting but its the same issue wyus T-FA (i think that what its called) mask suffers from, its that ridge that goes down the whole mask for some reason, if you look at most masks they don't have ridge in between the nose and the chin(i think you could make the nose ridge slightly less of a drastic incline as well) but these are minor details

oh and another thing ive noticed thats really throwing it off is that the forehead doesnt curve out again after the eyes much, i think rinirin said this a long time ago but proportion wise the top of the forehead should be in line with the chin, so increase the forehead depth towards you a bit

tl;dr make lips less angular and top one more proportioned, get rid of the ridge going from the nose to the chin, increase the forehead depth towards you

(and maybe make the chin slightly less sharp or move it up a bit?)

>>11638572
what vid/manga/anime are you talking about?

>>11640977
Woah??!? Anybody know where to get those?

>>11641204
Or make them?

>>11640435
omg Nia. Source?

>>11641719
I believe that's @rin_piass's current work in progress

>>11640433
Source on this?

>>11640707
>>11640764
3rding the request for padding advice.

>>11640480
source?

The only cute furry in existence.

>>11640494
source?

>>11640480
source?

>>11640494
>>11640495
Nice, where are they from?

>>11642666
@NancyMENGHAN
>>11643083
@Kig_PAR0

afaik

>>11642251

>>11644618

source
madoka doesn't work on nuko's, really.

W-Where do you buy these masks?

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