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EVENT DURATION: 7 DAYS。。。

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>> No.11617129 [DELETED] 

Daily reminder that none of you actually browse /jp/ and you should consider moving the threads to /vg/.

>> No.11617131

>>11617124
needs a tail, would happily impregnate otherwise

>> No.11617133

>>11617131
I wonder how (Anavel) USS Gato would feel about this...

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>>11617133
Solomon.... I have returned, Poi-!

>> No.11617140,1 [INTERNAL] 

crosssies piss me off more than janishit does FUCK YOU CROSSY BITCHs i hope you die

>> No.11617159

So who's up for grinding the event stages more to create a Kinugasa farm for that rare 20.3cm gun?

>> No.11617161

Please remember to sage the thread.

>> No.11617194

Just got an Agano from E-5 boss node with victory rank A. Looks like rare ships drop with non-S victories, if you're looking for confirmations.

>> No.11617196

>>11617194
Because E-5 is way harder than E-3

>> No.11617198

>>11617194
Lucky you. Mine run so far. Need 1more direct kill.

NE
NE
A Rank Ooi
S Rank Kaga
A Rank Ise
NE
Retreat
NE
Retreat
NE
Retreat
A Rank Hyuga
NE
D Rank
A Rank rubbish
D Rank
A Rank rubbish
A Rank rubbish
S Rank rubbish
A Rank rubbish

>> No.11617199

>>11617196
I have nothing to refute that, but maybe this might be good news for those insane ones who prefer E-5 over E-3.

>> No.11617205 [DELETED] 

>>11617124
Who gives a crap, I'm not paying you money.
Like, go away.

>> No.11617226
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Personal blog time. If you guys are closed to finishing E-4, just finished it somehow. E-5 really is easier than E-4 and you dont really need that much resources to do it. Less than 10k used for all resources and less than 100bucket. 6hours in total. Best thing is, no damage control is need for this map. Advanced to new node on orange and advanced to night battle as long as she didnt start at red. Didnt lose anyone and I am starting to believe that you can only sink when you go to a new node at red.
Could have done it faster if compass was cooperative at the start. Funny thing was, when I put Ooi and KTKM at the top spot, the compass magically stopped sending me to NE node.
As usual, Yukikaze with the cut-in critical to finish off the boss.

>> No.11617230

>>11617226
Grats, sparkled them?

>> No.11617236

>>11617230
Yes. Always if you can. If not full fleet, at least half of them.

>> No.11617245

>>11617226

Fuck that, I don't have the nerve to risk orange damage without DCs, not on lvl 60+ ships.

>> No.11617248

>>11617245
How did you beat E-4 if you didnt take any risk?

>> No.11617251

>>11617226
Used support fleet?

>> No.11617256

>>11617248

DCs on all ships. I went with ships in red to the boss node thanks to that, ensuring day battle.

I'm fairly sure that my only DC lost was on orange DD after BB cut-in. Might've been a red one (I was distracted by a phone call for the duration of that fight) but I'm not risking it anyway.

>> No.11617257

>>11617251
Used for the last 3runs. Basically a must to offset the T-cross trolling and to make sure you can kill the boss at night.
Followed the nips 2DD 2BB 2CV/L setup from the last thread.

>> No.11617259

>>11617226
Congrats, I'm the other guy who's doing E-5 as well, my levels are higher but after 8 hours I've only managed to deplete 1/3 of the boss' hp gauge.

At least I have an Agano to justify all those wasted resources I guess.

>> No.11617264

>>11617259
Vertical on all nodes.
Whoever that recommended horizontal/double line, they are all wrong. Kill them before they shoot you and when I am using vertical, cut-in doesnt happened or rarely did.
I am starting to believe that all of us messed up E-4 by not using vertical.

>> No.11617266

>>11617129
Browse /jp/ for all the reactionary and 2hu waifu threads? Classy.

>> No.11617267

>>11617264
Thanks, I'm already doing vertical formation. Guess I'll test out your Ooi/KTKM on first few slots theory.

>> No.11617270

>>11617264

I, on other hand, firmly believe double line turned some otherwise lethal cut-ins and double attacks into orange-level damage. I did run some verticals - and cut ins in that formation guaranteed a retreat.

>> No.11617276

>>11617256
The nips aren't bothering with damcons, and I didn't either. Advancing with orange worked for me (sparkles). You will never sink the boss if you retreat at orange, especially considering you have to go into night battle to actually sink her. It is impossible to sink her in day battle unless you have nagato+yamato.
>>11617264
And yes vertical on all nodes. I didn't have the op torp sisters and had to deal with good old DDs and CLs. 1 shotting them before they fire is the best defense.

>> No.11617282

>>11617264
6 hours for E-4 with sub 50 fleet using horizontal. I don't think I messed up at all. Your measly 40 or so runs that you used vertical doesn't prove anything.

>> No.11617284

>>11617276
ah you guys were talking about e4. Never mind, carry on.

>> No.11617290

>>11617282
Agreed.
I used horizontal through out both E4 and E5 (except north node of E5).
It's just a matter of targeting order.

>> No.11617297

>>11617276

I fully intend to continue at orange if I have a DC equipped. I'm fine with losing DC, not so much when it comes to ships.

>> No.11617301

>>11617297
Has anyone tested orange and sparkles yet? I know red and sparkles still means death.

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update from yesterday. i guess i'm just a little more unlucky than most people.

>> No.11617305

>>11617301
Orange ships cant sink
There is no proof that orange ships can sink. If you have proof then give a youtube link. I wonder where all this misinformation about orange ships sinking come from?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Scn-eOYqNE

>> No.11617307

>>11617303
Sure is interesting how you bother to properly format your sentences in the spreadsheet, while posting on here with garbage style.

>> No.11617310

>>11617301
none of my orange ships on 50+ runs have sunk. sparkle or not
starting to think that when the devs said orange was "in danger" it meant that you had decreased hit rate and lowered evasion not that you "can get hit and sunk". or maybe there is a fraction of a percentage chance that you can get sunk but it really is up to you if you want to push or not. in E4 i became pretty desperate pushing even with all oranges. even with 1 red i'll still push.

>> No.11617308

Anyone had crane sisters drop at E-3? I have been farming there for a week with no luck.

Is there a higher chance for it in E-4 or E-5?

>> No.11617312 [DELETED] 

>>11617307
Sorry dude. It's 4am and i'm not feeling well. Not that you care :-)

>> No.11617311

>>11617308
>Anyone had crane sisters drop at E-3?
I counted at least 3 individual reports in this thread. Where have you been?

>> No.11617313

>>11617308
I've got a Zuikaku in my first 6 runs when I've beat the boss. Haven't got the other in my farming.

>> No.11617315

I heard that the kotatsu furniture set is going away after this, is it confirmed? Heard that its due to change in seasons thing.

>> No.11617322

>>11617308
jp wiki has only E3 drop them.

>> No.11617330

>faling to get a *kaze after 20 back to back 270/30/330/130 crafts

:_;

>> No.11617338

>>11617330
Only 20?

Try 130

I still don't have Yukikaze after 4 months of playing

I've been doing about 20 attempts a day recently

>> No.11617337

I just got my first Kongou class today and it came with a 15.2cm Single Cannon(Yellow).

I kind of forgot but I think I read somewhere that it's a terrible equipment is this true?
What setup should I use since she can't equip 20.3cm Twin Cannon(Red) or 14cm Single Cannon(Red)

Also an extra noob question, is the 12.7cm Twin High Angle Cannon better than the Green 7.7mm or 12.7mm?

>> No.11617345

>>11617330
>>11617338
and I got a Yukikaze in my fifth attempt or so using that recipe, RNG is harsh in this game

>> No.11617352

>>11617337
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Equipment
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Combat

>> No.11617353

>>11617330
>>11617338
Isn't grinding 3-1 better?
Hoping to get her from boss?

>> No.11617355

>>11617345
yukikaze is superior and harder to get anyway.
speedslut is a common drop in 2-4-1. just farm there for a day or two.

>> No.11617356

>>11617337
>12.7cm
>12.7mm

Come on, anon. It's not that hard.

>> No.11617367
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With all of these at level 15, am I good to go for E1?

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>>11617308
I just got a shokaku while farming the E3 boss, no agano.

So far my notable drops have been Hatsukaze, Maikaze and Shokaku from E3. All were from S ranks, other ranks just gave me common stuff or stuff I already had.

Sinking the boss on day battle is impossible for me so I have to go on night battle if I want to have a chance at sinking her.

>> No.11617372

>>11617367
Get them to Lvl25. You will want to max out the armor on your DD and BB before really doing E1 efficiently btw.

>> No.11617376 [DELETED] 

If only ZUN!bar was here...

>> No.11617377

>>11617372
Alright, gotta hope i can grind that much in 6 days.

>> No.11617380

>>11617367
You probably want another Kai in your fleet and more firepower for your day battles.

>> No.11617382

>>11617380
Hm, I have a Kinugasa I could grind to Kai, but who would i swap out for her?

>> No.11617387

>>11617382
One of your DDs probably, one DD kai should be enough for the submarine node

>> No.11617391

>>11617387
Got it teitoku, thanks.

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So I tried giving the duo double attack equipment for night battle.

Jesus, they're monsters.

>> No.11617443

>>11617434
Pretty much. They can oneshot the bosses in night battle all the way up to E3. I kind of wish the other CL/DD could compare.

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This route is bullshit.

>> No.11617459

>>11617454

It's actually possible? Huh. Never went that way.

>> No.11617461

>>11617459
Got it like 3 times, I reach the boss with low ammo and fuel and can't kill shit.

>> No.11617464

>>11617434
How do you double torpedo?

>> No.11617467

>>11617464
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Combat

>> No.11617468

>>11617464
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Combat

>> No.11617470

>>11617434
The only problem is having them arrive intact for the boss node. They're the most vulnerable after DDs.

>> No.11617513

>>11617371
Good going, admiral. I only have Kinu to show for my efforts.

But since I don't intend to get Musashi, I can concentrate all my efforts on E1 and E3, so I guess there's that.

>> No.11617526

Have you remodeled your Iku and Hacchan?

>> No.11617527

Pfft, got Agano during a E5 run.

You know, it's probably easier to look for her in E5 than E3, since you can go through it easily with four subs. Once you pass the first two nodes, nothing can touch you and you win by default if you land a hit.

>> No.11617529

Is there any equipment that will allow my sub to fire during the fighting phase?

>> No.11617532

>>11617527
What rank?

>> No.11617533

>>11617529
how are they supposed to fire guns while submerged?

>> No.11617537

>>11617527

So you can get Agano from E-5 with B-rank victory? Because that's all you can get with 4 subs unless you luck out like shit, and even then it's A.

>> No.11617538

>>11617532
A. Pretty easy if your subs are competent. Add in a support fleet for extra damage.

>> No.11617543

>>11617533
I was hoping their was a mini torpedo that could fire during the ship fight phase, doesnt seem like their worth using otherwise

>> No.11617547

>>11617543
they shoot torpedoes during the torpedo phases, why should they shoot additional torpedoes during gun-phase?

>> No.11617550

>>11617543
they're useful to draw fire from light cruisers and destroyers

>> No.11617553

>>11617547
he obviously wants submarines to be disgustingly strong and outclass every other ship

>> No.11617556

>>11617547
No idea, but when KTKM and Ooi can fire in both phases doesnt that just make a sub irrelevant apart from the reason here >>11617550

>> No.11617559

>>11617556
KTKM and Ooi can't shoot torpedoes during gun-phase, what are you talking about?

>> No.11617561

>>11617556
Being the least resource-intensive class sure makes subs useless.

>> No.11617562

>>11617559
they can shoot guns though

>> No.11617569

>>11617562
cause they are not submerged?

>> No.11617571

>>11617556
Well sure if you remove the entire reason why subs are good then they probably seem pretty lackluster. I guess I should start doing KTKM and Ooi runs of 2-3 instead. You're also forgetting the ridiculous cost efficiency and it's not much but at least they don't have to equip minisubs. Different roles for completely different classes of ship, it's a bit silly to compare the two.

>> No.11617580

>>11617571
besides, KTKM will just lose if she ever goes to solo boss nodes. Subs don't draw any BB or CV fire...

>> No.11617584

>>11617569
Just you wait. Soon there will be deck gun 3rd slot for the subs. They will get to preempt, fire a round from their deck gun, and then torp after all is said and done.

>> No.11617594

>>11617556
Let's see. 1. Short repair times. 2. Cheap repair costs. 3. Good evasive tank which saves your fleet repair time, costs, buckets. 4. Sub cheesing. 5. Unkillable at night. 6. Make people suffer in pvp

>> No.11617598 [SPOILER] 
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E-5 cleared after 12 hours, wasn't as bad as E-4 after all. Completed it with full sparkling fleet and no support expeditions.

>>11617226 >>11617264
These advice worked, basically if you have a powerful enough fleet you can kill the enemy before they touch you. For putting a CLT as flag, 90% of the time I got to the boss when taking the north route. However, I placed KTKM at the bottom since I needed her to deal huge damage to the boss and that she did.

>> No.11617600

>>11617584
and to fire the gun they'll have to resurface, and then can be shot by anyone. Great addition.

>> No.11617606

>>11617600
Deck guns on submarines have been used to some effect though it was the US side that employed them though.

>> No.11617605

>>11617124
Is that from Sameda Koban?looks like his art

>> No.11617613

>>11617606
Germans as well actually. American torpedoes weren't superbly effective early on in the war... come to think of it,.

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>>11617598
>12 hours
>wasn't as bad as E-4
I question how much time you've spent on E4.

>> No.11617622

>>11617606
the thing with deck guns is that the submarine can't be submerged if you want to use them. Which is a bad choice for a submarine if it's against anything with guns on it's own.
A submarine is way too vulnerable to risk a gun-fight.

>> No.11617625

>>11617619
Nearly 20 because I took my time waiting for the Mamiya icon to stop flashing.

The first 8 hours of this E-5 run was terrible and a big waste of resources, but after applying those advice everything suddenly became so much easier, made it to the boss 9/10 times, S rank'd her every single time.

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AFKers with single destroyers are the worst, what the fuck are they expecting out of it anyway?

>> No.11617633

>>11617625
No support expedition? What kind of self inflicted hell did you put yourself through? If you reach the boss, they almost always killed 2-3 mobs. Also, sparkling by running 1-1 is far faster and better than waiting for fatigue to only go up to 49...

>> No.11617630

>>11617628
They are giving you easy sparkles for E4-E5 or a expedition

>> No.11617631

>>11617628
Easy sparkle for expedition fleet.

>> No.11617638

>>11617628
They're expecting to give you a free sparkling fleet that makes harder maps a breeze, like the night maps in the event where Shimakaze hits like a truck and never gets touched. Keep using those slow ships.

>> No.11617642

>>11617633
I could S rank the boss easily since the beginning, why do I need them? My main issue was getting to the boss, there wasn't much you could do about that.

>> No.11617643

>>11617613
I can't wait for Mark 14 torpedoes that turn around and hit your own ships if you miss with them. USS Tang could come with one, even.

>>11617622
>A submarine is way too vulnerable to risk a gun-fight.
Curiously, the only incident where a submarine was sunk by a battleship (instead of its escorts) didn't even involve guns, the submarine just surfaced and promptly got run over by the battleship. That was in WWI though, not WWII.

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Perfect S on both of E5's pre-boss nodes and it gives me two Kirishimas. I think it wants me to mic check.

>> No.11617648

>>11617643
>sunk without guns
See I-1 for some more samfrul dispray

>> No.11617649

>>11617642
Care to post your fleet composition and levels ?

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>>11617649
1 team for everything. Was using a lv66 Chikuma previously but seeing that she did jack shit I swapped her out for Hibiki, she worked wonders so I let her stay.

>> No.11617674 [DELETED] 

>>11617648
>Critical codes remained on board and the Japanese command tried unsuccessfully to destroy the boat with air and submarine attacks. The US Navy salvaged 200,000 pages of intelligence: code books, charts, manuals, and the ship's log.
My goodness. Assuming that isn't a typo and that the pages in question were about as heavy as a standard A4 sheets (I guess they were smaller but thicker, so that's a fair estimation), that's roughly one ton of intelligence.

I8 already looks like the bookish type, but if we ever see I1 in Kancolle, she better have some coke-bottle glasses. Probably a klutz who leaves around important documents (i.e. her diary) for the enemy (i.e. the admiral) to capture and read, too.

>> No.11617676

>>11617606
>>11617622
>>11617643
>Submarines with guns

Maybe we'll get the submersible cruiser Surcouf? Just keep Mogami away.

>> No.11617679

>>11617648
>Critical codes remained on board and the Japanese command tried unsuccessfully to destroy the boat with air and submarine attacks. The US Navy salvaged 200,000 pages of intelligence: code books, charts, manuals, and the ship's log.
My goodness. Assuming that isn't a typo and that the pages in question were about as heavy as standard A4 sheets (I guess they were smaller but thicker, so that's a fair estimation), that's roughly one ton of intelligence.

I8 already looks like the bookish type, but if we ever see I1 in Kancolle, she better have some coke-bottle glasses. Probably a klutz who leaves around important documents (i.e. her diary) for the enemy (i.e. the admiral) to capture and read, too.

>> No.11617747

>>11617628
would you prefer a fleet of 6 destroyers instead?

>> No.11617750
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http://mereck.ha.tsunde.re/?p=194
>It was so unbearable that, at one point, I turned off my computer’s sound to avoid hearing their final words.

Another one has fallen, yet for naught. ;_;
Fellow teitoku, think twice before taking the path of the demon.

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I feel personally offended to have such a shitty admiral on my PVP list.

>> No.11617759

>>11617751
Mutsuki and Hiei is acceptable though.

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>>11617751

>> No.11617780

I feel terribly lost in this thread, everyone is so high in level and I'm just happy I got my first remodeled ship... and it's a Mogami, which remodels at lvl 10.

>> No.11617805

>>11617750
>>11617751
I tried starting E-4 like this to save resources, thinking I wouldn't care, but after the first one sank I couldn't go on and swapped in my actual fleet. It really was stupid of me because reading the other E-4 clear blogs, I was one of the luckiest bastards ever to clear it the way I did.

Sorry Yura. I won't do something like this ever again.

>> No.11617807

>>11617760
Perfect counter.

>>11617780
As long as you aren't asking about how to beat 1-4 or blogging about how you want ___, there's a place for you here. At least I like to think so.

>> No.11617809

>>11617807
What level do you have to be before you can start blogging about your performance?

>> No.11617814

>>11617809

Higher than whoever is reading your post.

>> No.11617818

>>11617780
You'll get used to the game soon, but know that you must never lose sight of how precious your shipdaughters are. Event ships and 3-4 clears aren't worth losing them. Play at your leisure and never do anything you would later regret.

Getting sentimental over the first few ships you obtain is half the reason this game is as popular as it is.

>> No.11617842

>>11617818
>Play at your leisure and never do anything you would later regret.
I wish more people understood this. Getting Yamato or Musashi isn't important. Most people who get them don't even use them. Just love your kanmusu and enjoy the ones you have.

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From the last daily craft.
Finally I have my very own beaver.

Now if only Zekamashi would show up.

Now that backstory is more interesting than I thought

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>>11617842
Agreed, no need to get so stressed over those two when the BB that loves you the most and should be loved the most isnt even from the event.

>> No.11617856

>>11617818
I'm enjoying so far using the ones I have and I wish for others, but I do know that most of them will appear later on.

>> No.11617860

>>11617845
Coming from a teitoku who has been constantly poor trying due attempting to craft her, congratulations!

>> No.11617872

What's the most common node for Shimakaze to drop on? I'm getting tired of crafting and hoping when I keep getting Naka and her sisters.

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>>11617860
Well,I had a lot of developmental materials so I was jewing.Meaning;I was crafting 30/30/30/30 only so that I would get a little boost on resources and the bucket at the end of the quest chain of course.

Then I thought, I might need those developmentals for crafting and what not.So I split the 4 ship craft into two.2 for scrapping 2 for proper crafts which might give me the ships I want.

Turned out nice.

>> No.11617879

>>11617872
2-4-1

>> No.11617881

>>11617872
no idea about drop-rate, but 2-4 first node is a good spot to farm for her. Also gives good exp in case you need to level your fleet to clear 2-4

>> No.11617882

>>11617872
Somewhere in World Wiki

>> No.11617883

>>11617879
>>11617881
I think I'm being seriously unlucky here, barely finding any ships while running through this map

>> No.11617888

I just noticed I'm going to be attempting E-4 on the last day of the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal. Hopefully this brings me luck or something.

>> No.11617890

>>11617888
I started E-4 around 11 and a half hours ago. I'm still here, will you join me?

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Hah! You thought you'd have less trouble finding me in E-3 than 3-4?

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>>11617882
you're so helpful, really

>> No.11617900

>>11617890
I would, but I made a plan so I have around 50 hours straight to beat E-4, and if luck bends my way where I hardly use any of that time, and my resources haven't been drained, I'll do E-5 too.

>> No.11617903

>>11617890
Are you me?
All I need is the final kill, but she just won't die.

>> No.11617904

Anyone got any images of their fleets and their equipment after clearing E-1?

>> No.11617905

>>11617872
I'm on an early state of the game, but I'm told that she also drops from the boss on 1-3.

>> No.11617908

>>11617905
She does. However I have tried farmign 1-3. Don't even bother your chance to get the boss node is really damn low and even at that shes really rare.

>> No.11617910

>>11617895
The more I do sortie in E-3 trying to find Agano, the more I'm doubting myself whether I really want her. Yes, the nature of this game is ship collection, but I feel like betraying my daughters if I get her only for show-off.

>> No.11617914

>>11617910
But you get her to reunite her with her sisters.

>> No.11617916

>>11617908
Well, right now I'm grinding there, so if she drops, I'll be happy (I'm not that anon that was asking where did she drop).

>> No.11617917

>>11617910
Do you like busty young girls? If yes, keep trying. If no, give up so you don't burn out on this game.

>> No.11617918

>>11617904
You dont need one, E1 is baby mode and you can beat it with the same team you used to beat 1-4

>> No.11617921

Wow, Agano.

That voice.

No.

>> No.11617922

>>11617899
But I found it by myself.
It is easy and I'll tell you this, droplist of world 2-4 in moon is almost identical to the english wiki.

You are a bad teitoku.

>> No.11617925

>>11617910
If the event grind bothers you, just skip it and wait until she becomes craftable. Being free of the event is really refreshing, and you can devote your extra resources to craft rare ships that you do want.

Unless already you have them all, of course.

>> No.11617929

>>11617925
She drops like Goya, so I wouldn't be surprised if she's as hard to craft as Goya.

>> No.11617937

>>11617914
If Noshiro is Chiyoda-tier sister loving, I will do that.
>>11617917
Gloves and exposed navel are some of my things. Having them in one girl is GREAT.
>>11617925
I will, sooner or later. I started that from around 20-25k resources, now I have 5k left.

>> No.11617944

>>11617929
That's fairly decent odds, especially if her recipe is the same as the rare destroyers/submarines.

Suzuya and Kumano are definitely harder to craft, at the very least.

>> No.11617945

>>11617922
I'm asking which is the most common node you guys have found her in, wiki states all nodes where she's found but not how easily she's found.

You're such a helpful teitoku, I totally didn't know that an english wiki existed.

>> No.11617947

>>11617903
12 hours, 327 individual battles, no sleep, and no Hachi. I'm tired anon, so tired. Now I have to drag myself to an 8am lecture.

>> No.11617948

>>11617947
Make sure to idle at Hendychan's speech screen.

>> No.11617952
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11617952

>>11617628
1v6? Meet me at Solomon Islands.

>> No.11617961
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>>11617947
Link us your API. We will continue your struggle for you.

>> No.11617968

>>11617961
what a suggestion

>> No.11617972

>>11617961
I agree with this statement.

>> No.11617975

What equipment do you need on E5? Do you need Type3s like in E4?

>> No.11617982

>>11617975
You need Type 91 rounds on your DDs.

>> No.11617989

>>11617948
Will do, if I can stop eating crits all the way there.
>>11617961
I just might, anon. If I can't clear it with another 12 hours, I just might.

>> No.11618002

Any better rare destroyer recipe than 250/150/200/30 feeling a little down after failing my 30th attempt today..

>> No.11618006

>>11618002
270/30/300/30. Slightly better chances.

>> No.11618009
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11618009

>>11618006
>Steel

>> No.11618017

>>11617982
>Type 91 on DD
Fuck, add type 3 as well.

>> No.11618021

>>11618002
250/100/250/30

>> No.11618022

>>11618009
>>11618006
That gave me my Goya.

>> No.11618026

How much did green planes help your carrier daughters diets?

At the start of the week I had some fun in E-3, but since my fleet ate about 300 bauxite per run, and liked getting crit to orange/red at node 1/2, I sort of ran out of resources.

I've regained some, but I don't think I can run much E-3 unless I figure out the magic behind using less bauxites.

>> No.11618033

>Admiral level 6
>Craft a Yukikaze
Well shit.

>> No.11618034

Started around the 1st and my current fleet is around lvl 20 for all umm Hiryuu Akagi Mutsu Kongou Isuzu Kitakami but I keep trying to beat E-1 but get crit every run and was wondering wheres a good place to train at my level.

>> No.11618037

>>11617989
If worst comes to worst, maybe you should create a fleet of 6 level 1 ships and drive them straight to the boss to reach the conversation screen.

Their sacrifice will buy you time enough to sleep and have breakfast... If you can stand the guilt when you wake up.

>> No.11618042

>>11618034
I'm surprised you can't beat E-1 with a fleet like that, I was only using Hibiki, Isuzu, Yamashiro, ktkm, Haguro and Kako to beat E-1 and all of them were only about lv10 to 15 asides from Isuzu being lv20 and Hibiki being the sole lv30

>> No.11618044

>>11618037
there's even easier ways! For example, he can just sparkle his ships and use the freebies from 1-1 to buy himself some time...

>> No.11618050

>>11618042
Me too Someone always eats a crit either CVs or kitakami so i put a turbine on kitakami +6

>> No.11618052
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11618052

>>11618037
I've typesetted way too many shit where ships sink already, I promised myself I wouldn't.
>>11618044
I've been sparkling my ships with the DD drops but I made a mistake and sent a couple to E-4 instead of 1-1 now their in the red morale zone.

>> No.11618060

>>11618052
Did that post come out as incoherent? I can barely think straight anymore.

>> No.11618064
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11618064

>>11618052
everytime you post strips like that, I look at this one

>> No.11618087

It is possible to clear E-3 and 4 in 7 days with my 50~ shipdaughters? I haven't any high level destroyers tho

>> No.11618109

>>11618087
Yes

Just believe.

For everyone who still hasn't cleared the event or reached their target goal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxGRhd_iWuE

I believe in you

>> No.11618122

>>11618109
I already gave up on the event, E4 is too hard for me, even broke down and sacrificed a bunch of low leveled ships for noting, never again.

Going to settle with just farming E3 and hoping for someone I dont have, prefferably agano.

But thank you anon

>> No.11618123

>>11618087
>E-3
You'll only need one hour or two.
>E-4
Put damage control on all but flagship, or just be cruel and use DD bait.

>> No.11618129

>>11618123

What do you mean by damage control?

>> No.11618141

>>11618129
Don't worry about it, anon. Just send out your ships like the worthless pawns that they are.

>> No.11618144

>>11618129
Emergency repair.

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11618248

>>11617929
Goya is a common drop in E-5 second node.
Just farm for her there.

>> No.11618260

>>11618123
Dunno I'm tempted to just sacrifice a couple of fleets to E4 if I can just do anything to the boss once. I'm down 25k resources and 240-70 buckets with a 1/3 health, whittling away the past 6 days with sitting on her dialogue screen. I'm close to just saying fuck it.

>> No.11618264

>>11618248
North route or the middle route?

>> No.11618266

>>11618264
Not that admiral, but I got both Goya and Imuya from the first node today.

>> No.11618273

>>11618264
I got it from the north route

>> No.11618280

Do you get additional fatigue if you just go to a stage, do the first node, and retreat?
I think I might have read that somewhere.

>> No.11618284

I'd like to ask some questions about early-game efficiency but I'm sure some unfriendly bully will come and tell me to read the four thousand threads before asking anything...

>> No.11618290

>>11618284
Good. Read the wikis.

>> No.11618287

>>11618280
You gain fatigue whenever you return to base. Doesn't matter if you do 1 map or 4, same amount of fatigue gained.

On the other hand, you lose fatigue for getting MVP, so if you clear 4 maps, the 4 ships who got MVP will end up with less fatigue.

>> No.11618289

>>11618284
Is it really considered unfriendly for people to redirect you towards the wiki where anons worked hard to provide all the information you will ever need nice and neatly for you?

>> No.11618291

>>11618284
Then why bother making a whiny post about it? Is this supposed to be bait?
Just go read the wiki or post your question in the wiki, im sure no one will hurt your delicate feelings there.

>> No.11618298

>>11618289
The wiki only lists facts, not comments about what I want to know.
For example, do I try to build BBs while still in 1-4, do I focus on few ships, that kind of thing you learn after you waste hours and hours. I want to save time, not learn which button does what.

>> No.11618302

>>11618298
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Muuuxy/Personal_calculations

No, check the wiki

>> No.11618307

>>11618298
So its the same questions that get over and over.
Just go lurk more for your answers if you dont want to get called out for being a massive whiny faggot.

Or do you want everything spoonfed to you like a little baby?
Here, say aaaaahn.
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:_FAQ

>> No.11618315

>>11618307
Nice of you to post a link that doesn't even answer the sample questions I gave. Sure drives home the point of how everything is answered in the wiki.

>> No.11618316

Well, I'm content.
I've pretty much gotten every single ship I've seen most commonly advertised in fanwork (Atago, Tenryuu, Kongo, Fubuki) in a couple days of playing.

>> No.11618320
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11618320

Commander, you've changed.

In the past, no matter how many times we failed 3-2, you would always forgive us with a smile on your face.
"I can buy a tansu with these furniture coins," you would say encouragingly."If anyone gets seriously damaged, I'll quickly withdraw the fleet," you promised.

And now. Already, you've removed the protective lock from the low-level destroyers.
"You're not even rare. Using your worthless lives is a small price to pay to stop THE GAUGE RECOVERY," you muttered.

Kongo-san and Hiei-san set sail for E-4 with yet another detachment of the little sacrifices in tow.
These once cheerful sisters now steam forward with dull, lifeless eyes.

"GAUGE RECOVERY" is something that I simply don't know anything about.
But, at the very least, I understand the pain and anguish it's inflicting upon our dear Commander.

It'll be ok. Just leave that airport-thing to me, Ikazuchi.
Commander doesn't have to worry anymore.
I'll take care of that GAUGE RECOVERY thing, no sweat.

Alright, this is Ikazuchi, for Commander's sake, sortie underway

>> No.11618318

>>11618307
To be fair, this thread spoonfeeds the same questions over and over. This place sort of sucks. For every person who asks a dumb question, there are perhaps 2 people who suggest the wiki and another 2 who answer it.

I bet if this guy just asked his dumb question without trying to stand out from other dumb questions, he would have gotten spoonfed.

>> No.11618322

Heh, I just noticed on Kongou's wiki page that she has a bunch of time-related lines, how do you get her to say them? I tried clicking the clock to no avial.

>> No.11618326

>>11618315
Maybe he didn't see your sample questions, as they were in a retarded, misused spoiler.

>> No.11618328

>>11618318
That guy was just begging for it, if you're going to ask a question you just go ahead and ask it instead of going "g-guys I want to ask a question but im afraid of the mean bullies that will tell me to read the wiki"

>> No.11618334

>>11618316
All of them are really common and accessible easily. Good job.

>> No.11618335

>>11618320
This makes me feel terrible for all the ships I sacrificed while trying to get the E4 bar down, poor girls. Never again.

At least I never sacrificed my favorite girls, like ikazuchi for example. Could not bring myself to.

>> No.11618336

>>11618320
KAN KAN KAN

>> No.11618337

>>11618318
They can always ask the same questions at the wiki. Pretty sure they would be willing to help.

>> No.11618346
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11618346

500 steel and 3 bars on E4. Heaven or hell?

>> No.11618344

>>11618335
>>11618336
>>11618320
Typical /jp/ admiral http://imgur.com/a/UXSLz

>> No.11618345

>>11618334
Thanks.
But I'm completely unsure where to go now.
I guess I'll just keep doing stuff to get Shimakaze. Then I can probably just jerk off to the porn peacefully and not have to worry about not having have olayed the games.

>> No.11618349

>>11618326
I didn't want to offend his sensibility. If not for the spoiler his anus might have been permanently ruptured.

>>11618328
>if you're going to ask a question you just go ahead and ask it instead of going "g-guys I want to ask a question but im afraid of the mean bullies that will tell me to read the wiki"
I didn't ask it directly because I know how things go and it's obvious the "rid wikki" answer was going to pop up.
I was aiming at getting the attention of somebody who thought "Hey, this guy sounds like he might have read the wiki already, let's see what Kancolle questions he wants to ask in this Kancolle thread."
Clearly, I failed. Nothing too serious, I'll just have to spend more time in the game. I'll take my leave now, please don't mind me and continue your discussions on the same things I'd like to ask about, only with some more hours invested.

>> No.11618352

>>11618344
>http://imgur.com/a/UXSLz
I just want to say that it's fitting that teitokus commit warcrimes to get warcrime-chan.

>> No.11618355

Is it too late for me to sign up? Will I be seriously gimped because I was not an early adopter? Pls no go read wiki.

>> No.11618356

>>11618352
I swear to god I've read this same line for the past 3 threads already.

How long have we been stagnant?

>> No.11618361

>>11618356
Event lost its charm. We're back to the same old endless cycle.

>> No.11618358

>>11618355
Read the wiki, it answers any and every question you may have.
Oh wait no, it doesn't.
You won't be able to get a few event-only ships but it's not a big deal. I signed up yesterday(?) and I'm having my fun. Go for it.

>> No.11618366

>>11618358
>Read the wiki
pls no bully anonkun

>> No.11618369

>>11618358
>Telling him to read the wiki
Please dont bully him anon, its rude

>> No.11618376

>>11618358
Do you have to be this passive aggressive? To actually answer his question and not use it as a platform for some stupid agenda, if you manage your resources right and build a decent team you could clear the first stage of the event and arguably get one of the better rewards. You've got a week to get to it and that sub will give you a major advantage early on. But otherwise it's a little silly to assume you missed the train when we're only a few months in. The game's in the height of its popularity and they're going to be rolling out updates in the future.

>> No.11618385

>>11618376
No agenda, I'm just getting back at them in a silly, harmless way while I actually answer the guy's question.

>> No.11618389

>>11618376
He's probably just mad we don't answer everyone's questions especially when there's already a site made specifically to do that.

>> No.11618390

>>11618376
Well, there's some autists like RHexcellion that started on nov 1 and ended up beating E4 so its definitely possible to clear the event if you try.

That guy probably used all his group funds on resources, buckets and slots though.

He also abuses F5 on 3-2 on stream and there's the rumor of him using bots to get where he is so there's that too.

>> No.11618402

>>11618385
By bullying him?
You're becoming the mean bully that you hate

>> No.11618410
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11618410

>>11618087
Level50 is good enough to clear all the event maps.
I never though I could get Musashi when the event started but I actually cleared it with time to spare.
Only 1week apart for ktkm to gain 15levels.

>> No.11618415

Friendly reminder for the 11:00-16:00 maintenance in 28mins.

>> No.11618416

>>11618345
>But I'm completely unsure where to go now.
You have all 5 of the event girls? You have Yamato? You have both normal subs? You have both crane sisters? You have Nagato? Yukikaze, Shimakaze? Hatsukaze, Maikaze? Suzuya, Kumano? Akigumo, Yuugumo, Makigumo, Naganami? Have you leveled a Hibiki up to Верный?

You just started.

>> No.11618418

>>11618410
You're T-level 85 with ships near 80, so that's not really encouraging.

How ever, I've did the whole event while starting at T-level 45, so yeah, it can be done.

>> No.11618422

>>11618415
Isn't the maintenance only for two of the servers?

>> No.11618425

>>11618416
Well, I got a Shimakaze just after you posted that.
I have no idea who the others are, but I guess I'll learn about them as I go along.

>> No.11618435

>>11618422
Indeed.
Correction: Upcoming maintenance for servers 【舞鶴鎮守府サーバ】 & 【大湊警備府サーバ】.

>> No.11618439

>>11618435
Wait so the updates are already out then for others? Why only two servers?

>> No.11618444

>>11618439
It's not a content update, it's apparently a physical hardware upgrade help relieve the heavy load on those servers.

>> No.11618448

>>11618444
Eh, so when are we getting the winter furniture and heavy cruiser upgrades then?

>> No.11618447

>>11618435
Kanji servers sure have it tough.

>> No.11618451

>>11618448
Winter furniture is probably at the end of the event. We got our heavy cruiser Kai 2 update yesterday.

>> No.11618459

Wow, this maintenance happened at the exact same time as MH4's.

Now I'm left with nothing.

>> No.11618460

>>11618435
I just clicked to check my server name and got the maintenance message!

>> No.11618462

>>11618415
>>11618435
You're fucking kidding me. I really should pay more attention, I'm one sortie away from getting Musashi. I even had a final run minutes before the servers went down and got the boss into the double digits. I would have been unbelievably pissed if I had beaten it only to be greeted with error chan. How the fuck am I supposed to sleep through five hours with my heart beating this fast? At least they freeze the gauge while the servers go under.

>> No.11618464
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11618464

やりました。

~24 hours including all the time idling at the boss screen for sleep, food, resource, etc. Probably about half of that chipping away at the gauge and killing the boss.

11k fuel + some 4k or so from expeds, quests and natural regen.
Besides fuel, I cut really close for the buckets. Started with 130 and ended with just 17 before the final post-battle repairs.

Goya and Imuya dropped on the first node.

'Tis a good day.

>> No.11618465

>>11618462
>>11618460
>>11618459
I didn't even know we had this many people on the older servers.

>> No.11618467

>>11618465
Server 4 master race

>> No.11618477

I need a new KTKM really badly so I can go through boss node in E-3. Where are the likely maps that drop her?

>> No.11618482
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11618482

I had about two attacks left on that gauge, too.

>> No.11618487

http://ascii.jp/elem/000/000/842/842194/
Daily active users is over 400 thousand. Impressive.

>> No.11618495

>>11618487
It's decided. Touhou is finished.

>> No.11618499
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>>11618495
Touhou was finished long ago.
Just look at /jp/.
Currently Touhou is relegated to blog shitposting with 2hu images and which 2hu fuk. A single Kancolle thread bring more traffic and posts compare to the whole of /jp/ 2hu threads.

>> No.11618505

>>11618499
/kancolle/ when?
MOOOOT!!!

>> No.11618501
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11618501

Now or never.

>> No.11618514

>>11618499
>Currently
Touhou has been that on /jp/ long before kancolle was even a concept.

>> No.11618521

>>11618499
These threads are retarded, though.

It would be like an active STG thread if every day there were two hundred posts about how to defeat Cirno, a dozen posts asking where to download the Touhou, and people updating each other time they got a new personal high score.

>> No.11618524

>>11618501
I'm going to do that.
>>11618505
If he didn't create a Touhou board, I doubt that he'll create Kancolle board.

>> No.11618527

>>11618524
> If he didn't create a Touhou board, I doubt that he'll create Kancolle board.
You must be new here.

>> No.11618533

>>11618521
I would much prefer these threads to consist of talking about cute ships and what they do and don't have.

>> No.11618539

>>11618464
Very impressive clearing everything with lvl 40s and 50s ships.
High lvl teitoku that cant clear E4 should be ashamed of themselves.

>> No.11618542

>>11618499
the people posting in kancolle thread are mostly crossboarders, so it's not surprising.

>>11618533
it would be on /a/

>> No.11618545
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>> No.11618548

I wish they would drop this night battle gimmick bullshit and make an event where levels actually mattered.

>> No.11618551

>>11618477
i just got another one from 30 30 30 30

>> No.11618554

>>11618542
I haven't been to their kancolle threads but I'm assuming it's also helpdesk /a/ edition knowing their general ineptitude.

>> No.11618566

>>11618554
I bet they are even happy to help other players knowing how how attention-hungry they are.
As expected of moot's least loved board.

>> No.11618582
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11618582

Keep them warm.

>> No.11618584

>>11618477
She drops everywhere, in more nodes after a certain map, according to reports.
http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%BD%D0%B7%E2%A5%C9%A5%ED%A5%C3%A5%D7#dE5

If you're looking for drop frequencies, no one really knows. Don't be like previous posters with questions like this and blow up at the people who don't give exact percentage rates or whatever.

>> No.11618591

>>11618554
Their threads have a lot less game discussion and a lot more character discussion. Although it is also accompanied by the typical /a/ idiocy that accompanies every series with a lot of girls.

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>>11618582
I sure am!

>> No.11618620
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11618620

>>11618582
Why is Kaga + kotatsu pairing so good?

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11618642

>>11618545
Why is Mutsu so hot?
Also, how does her hair work?

>> No.11618647

>>11618608
Are they removing the autumn wall & kotatsu after the next update?
I am only at 60k and I still need to get Nagato first.

>> No.11618650

>>11618521
The difference is that Kancolle is a browser game with lots of downtime, so you have people posting about things while they wait for repairs, fatigue, etc.

Well that, and most Touhou fans don't actually play the games much, if at all.

>> No.11618651

>>11618642
Nene, when did you become a Kanmusu?

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11618653

>>11618642
Best navel.

>> No.11618655
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11618655

>>11618653
You posted the wrong image. Let me fixed it for you.

>> No.11618654

>>11618647
didnt they just add the kotatsu recently?

>> No.11618656

>>11618591
/jp/ thread is not any better, though.
look at the posting below you.

>>11618642
>Why is Mutsu so hot?
because her turret exploded.

>> No.11618659

>>11618656
All I see is a typical /jp/ post.
What should it have been?

>> No.11618667

>>11618659
game discussion.
compared to September, thread quality has been going down.

>> No.11618670

>>11618656
>/jp/ thread is not any better, though.
There's nothing with appreciating a character's exposed midriff from time to time, but /a/ can get a lot more retarded than that, like when the random hating starts to take off.

>> No.11618672

>>11618667
What should we discussed?
Most of us already beat E5.
Discuss the most efficient way to farm E6 and whine about Agano not dropping?

>> No.11618674

>>11618667
>game discussion.
Fuck your game discussion, dude. The quality of the threads went way fucking downhill after it started being nothing but fucking stupid questions non-stop, where 50% of the questions can be answered by the English wiki, 25% can be answered by the Japanese wiki, 20% can be answered by looking through the archive, 4% can be answered through Google and 1% nobody knows the answer to..

>> No.11618680

>>11618667
In September, talking about game things hadn't gotten completely boring yet. Just look at the Valkyrie Crusade thread.
Everyone over there is still answering questions that anyone could find out by reading old threads.
It's only a matter of how frequently the questions are asked. If questions are asked post after post after post, no wonder everybody would get bored.
That's why we need some cute girl discussion thrown into the mix.

>> No.11618690

>>11618667
But September was one of the worse months. It had people throwing waifu, shipfu and green shit all over the place.

>> No.11618750

I finally almost got to the boss node after 5 tries until I accidentally called my fleet back

I guess the event is over for me.

>> No.11618759

>>11618750
How do you accidentally call your fleet back?

>> No.11618760

>>11618759
Accidentally end the sortie.

It was E-4 btw.

>> No.11618762

>>11618750
>>11618760
>5tries
How weak. Come back after you have done 40.
I wonder if there is a kanmusu edit going only elementary kid teitoku failed to beat E-4.

>> No.11618778

>>11618762
5 today, forgot to mention that.

Not to mention the boss regenerated her HP once after I ran out of all resources. Which lead me to just try to clear it only on weekends instead of Monday.

>> No.11618777
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11618777

After spending 25k resources and now having <100 ammo, she comes to my admiralty. Now I could bid farewell to the event in peace.

Though still no Agano, but I already have Noshiro from E-2

>> No.11618784

>>11618777
What's wrong with her mouth.

>> No.11618785

>>11618777
Is there anything unique about her? I'm not very motivated to level her.

Also, she reminds me of Nagi.

>> No.11618793

>>11618785
3-4 boss drop only IIRC.
>>11618784
Unlucky star placement.

>> No.11618799

>>11618777
Why is everyone going so hard for her?
I rather go farm for Akigumo just for her grin.

>> No.11618804

>>11618799
Because she's the most exclusive and E-3 is easiest to farm.

>> No.11618805

>>11618799
Because she's nigh impossible to get otherwise.

>> No.11618808

>>11618799
What, you think 3-4 is easier ?

>> No.11618812

That feeling when running 2-4 for the 77th time, only to get sent directly east instead of the boss node and never clear the map.

>> No.11618816

>>11618812
I just cleared this on my first try actually, RNG gods have been in my favor since I started.

>> No.11618828

>>11618777
Congrats. I certainly hope my attempts wouldn't be as exhausting.

>> No.11618834
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>>11618620
Queen of cozy.

>> No.11618836

What's the historic reason for Shimakaze's thong?

>> No.11618844
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11618844

>>11618836
Her flag

>> No.11618846
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11618846

Higher res

>> No.11618849

>>11618828
Just aim for S rank. All of my rare gets come from S rank (Abukuma, Hatsukaze, and Zuihou).

>> No.11618852
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11618852

Hahaha, didn't know such assholes existed.

>> No.11618853

>>11618849
thanks

>> No.11618854

>>11618812
if you're running 2-4 77 times, you're either playing very poorly or you're lying. I assume the second because that's just too absurd. At least have believable numbers for something so average in difficulty.

>> No.11618860

>>11618852
Should I actively be trying to make my fleet really weak, because it seems like most people expect their opponents to have fleets that are easy to kill and give good exp.

>> No.11618862

>>11618860
You don't need to, but this guy is trying to pull something off with 6 pre-torp ships. Possibly to 'troll' or something, since his fleet has been like that for the past few hours.

>> No.11618874

>>11618860
no always place your highest lvl ships so other people can get exp. nice teitoku usually leave a single high level carrier.

>> No.11618876

>>11618860
If you want be nice put your 2 highest level ships that have low armor when you idle, gives easy sparkles and exp for other teitokus. best ships are CLs and CLVs as both have relatively little punch and armor, and no insane evade like DDs.

Its great for people with expensive to run ships like Nagato and Musashi, as a single S-rank in flagship with MVP can give nearly 2k exp, saving fuel and ammo compared to grinding 3-2/3-A

>> No.11618889

>>11618876
>>11618874
>>11618862
I never bothered doing pvp since I always figured I'd get my ass kicked, but someone with twice my level had only 1 ship in the first slot and I killed it in one hit, giving me a ton of exp.
I guess I should spread the favor and so something similar.

>> No.11618894

People on Futaba are suggesting 330/30/430/30 for Goya.
http://may.2chan.net/b/res/227979099.htm

>> No.11618919
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11618919

Just made an account and stuff with the proxy. Can't seem to get the game going. I see this page instead of the page that the wiki says you're supposed to see.

>> No.11618929

>>11618919
Isn't the server just full?

>> No.11618933

>>11618919
that's the screen you get if you don't win the lottery and there's no lottery happening, check the twitter and try again on that time

>> No.11618973

Has DMM blocked Non-nips from getting the 500 free points?
following this link :http://www.dmm.co.jp/en/netgame/point/-/freepoint/

leads me to an error page logged in or not without VPN. using a VPN makes it only accept Nip credit cards effectively cutting me short from the points.

>> No.11618985

>>11618983
it isn't the card, i mean the website itself doesn't work. unless you're saying you did it with a VPN?

>> No.11618983

>>11618973
My credit card worked fine. Switch to a different company.

>> No.11618988

>>11618973
I read a post some time ago (can't remember how long) that the same thing happened to an Austrailian Visa, can't remember what happened next though. But, some anon managed to get his card through the past weekend and I've never seen anyone say something amount any sort of update regarding cards since then.

>> No.11618991

>>11618973
Try to disconnect your VPN and reload that page if you failed to send credit card form.

>> No.11618992

>>11618985
You put in your card with the VPN turned off. Then, log out, turn your VPN, log back in and go to the 500 free points page.

>> No.11618995
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11618995

Have you done this for her my fellow teitoku?

>> No.11618996

>>11618985
When i enter the website, it gives me an error page unless im using a VPN. I'm not even offered the oppurtunity to put in my western credit card details.

>> No.11619010

>>11618995
Got mine from 400/400/800/30

>> No.11619019

>>11618995
Got mine when I first started with 400/-/600/-

>> No.11619021

>>11618995
Who is she and why she is so damn cute?

>> No.11619025

>>11619021
It's Naka.

>> No.11619028

>>11619021
Naka

>> No.11619036

>>11618991
>>11618988
>>11618992
>>11618983
solved it guys. Apparently Aussies can't speak english as it offers you an error page and english lessons if you try from australia. Just used a USA VPN and it worked. Fuck you based nippon.

>> No.11619048

What kind of fleet(composition and levels) do you guys recommend taking on E-2 with?

>> No.11619052

>>11619048
My fleet may not work for you. Read the wiki and find out for yourself.

>> No.11619068

>>11619048
Use what you have

It's difficult to recommend anything. Everyone pretty much ran different stuff.

>> No.11619070
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11619070

Soon.

>> No.11619071

>>11619070
Kaga Kai 2? Maybe CV will get more love if there's a Pearl Harbor event.

>> No.11619072

For E-3 CVs,what's the best plane composition?
Is a mixture of red and blue planes sufficient?

>> No.11619075
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11619075

>>11619072

>> No.11619077

>>11619071
With the way bauxite was completely ignored and how Zuihou and the crane sisters are easy drops during this event I've got more than a feeling that I know the theme of the next one. Or maybe it'll have to do with subs if they finally add patrol ships.

>> No.11619078

>>11619072
No green?

Hope you enjoy paying 500 bauxite a trip.

>> No.11619080

>>11619070
When Kaga sunk?

>> No.11619083

>>11619071
>>11619077
There's only four more slots left, and it's essentially been confirmed that two of them are a DD upgrade and a BB upgrade. I think carrier Kai 2 is unlikely, considering there already was a carrier event anyway.

>> No.11619089

>>11619083
What carrier event?
In August?
Carriers totally got sidelined in this event unless you are farming E3 24/7. Both my carrier went from highest lvl to page2.

>> No.11619093

>>11619089
>>11619083
I'm hoping that they add more bosses like Henderson-chan in the next event and CV will be useful when it comes to bombardment.

>> No.11619095

>>11619089
In May. When they added the kaku sisters. Carriers were done already, you missed it.

>> No.11619097

>>11618889
You should always do pvp. It's the fastest way to level ships.

>> No.11619106

Problem with restarting the Maizuru server, could take a while...

>> No.11619113

>>11619071
Next event will probably be an omnibus. Night maps, submarine bosses, war princess-level escort units, a boss rush map with Henderson and Iron Bottom Sound nodes, plus some new mechanic that is worse than all of the previous combined.

I'm expecting minefields. You get a screen informing you that the area is mined, and thence onward you have a chance to fail your strike and take damage every time a ship advances forward to attack.

Plus Yamato and Musashi as very rare drops from the final map, so that you can sink all your ships trying to farm it.

>> No.11619122

Um, well how do I explain this.
After 80+ runs of 2-4 trolling uncleared, fleet has lvl40-50 ships and almost no resources or buckets left.
Right before I throw in the towel, my Iku cleared 2-4 solo on 6 battle nodes. I've never wanted to impregnate my sub so badly before.

>> No.11619124

>>11619113
Speaking about Yamato, any info about that big construction thing?

>> No.11619137

>>11619122
You really shouldn't be using buckets to clear non-event maps unless your repairs are taking 6+ hours

>> No.11619142
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11619142

yuubari's navel

>> No.11619149

>>11619142
It tastes like melon

>> No.11619162

>>11619149
wonder how those vagina bones taste like

>> No.11619164

>>11619137
Not him, but bucket usage outside of events is fine. You get roughly 10 buckets a day just from quests, and that early on, resource usage is more of a concern than bucket count is. Buckets are just convenient for getting your fleet back into shape when you want to put a couple hours into the game.

>> No.11619168

>>11619149

>Teitoku, it doesn't taste like melon, please stop licking my naval!

>> No.11619178

>>11619164
Indeed, Once I reach 3-2, I'll be more conversant of res/buckets.

>> No.11619179

>>11619168
I'd lick her melons

>> No.11619210

>>11618995
No, I did 400/130/600/30 and got her two times in a row. I then got two Mutsu's from there. I was trying to find a Suzuya or Kumano.

>> No.11619212

>>11619210
I got her 4 times in a row with 30/30/30/30
git gud

>> No.11619214

>>11618995
Does this even work?
I dont want to kill my resources for a BB that I wont use.

>> No.11619217

>>11619214
>Won't use one of the best BB..

>> No.11619227 [DELETED] 
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Finally completed 3-2. Akatsuki got critted.

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>>11619217
But I already have the second best BB in game.
I am going to enjoy crafting for Yamato instead of Nagato.

>> No.11619235

>>11619227
Kill yourself.

>> No.11619238

>>11619227
Why do people like to post such shameful displays

>> No.11619239
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>>11618995

>> No.11619242
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11619242

>>11619217
But I already have the second best BB in game.
I am going to enjoy crafting for Yamato instead of Nagato.

>> No.11619262
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11619262

What's the secret to beating E-4?
I already failed once with 20k resources and I'm trying again right now but out of 15 attempts I haven't gotten to the boss once.
I've tried all sparkles fleet, 6 BBs, submarines, 3 CAs CTL 2 BBs, 2 DDs CLT CA 2 BBs and they just fail every time.

>> No.11619264

>>11619262
>What's the secret to beating E-4?
Luck.

>> No.11619266

>>11619262
get good
Luck

>> No.11619267

>>11619262
Dont be a pussy.
Orange ship doesnt sink.
Put damage control and advance even with 1ship in the red.

>> No.11619280

>>11619262
Don't bother with E-4.

>> No.11619288

>>11619267
This.

>> No.11619289

>>11619267
>Put damage control and advance even with 1ship in the red.
That's what I did last time, I ended up loosing 3 emergency repairs and still unable to kill the boss after the gauge was empty.
The only thing I do differently now is that I don't risk it with a ship in red, naturally I'll charge ahead with oranges but I hardly get those - they either dodge everything or get hit once and it's already over for them.

>>11619280
It feels incredibly humiliating seeing those low level clears of E-4 and even E-5 while regardless of effort I'm unable advance.
It feels so

>> No.11619298

How many months would it take for these event drops become craftable (with the exception of Musashi, of course)?

>> No.11619294

>>11619289
If luck is not on your side, don't do it. Occupy yourself with something else and try again later, maybe you might have 40k resources by that time, that amount would surely net you a clear.

>> No.11619299

>>11619289
>That's what I did last time, I ended up loosing 3 emergency repairs and still unable to kill the boss after the gauge was empty.
You can try going vertical in the BB nodes.
From my experience in E-5, I always get perfect S in the flagship nodes.

>> No.11619304

>>11619298
Probably 2 months or so, going by last event.

>> No.11619312

>>11619262
Be a monster and start sacrificing those level 1's to lower/keep the boss bar down, then swap in your main fleet to attempt for the sink when you get the resources to.

>> No.11619313

>>11619304
here's hoping I8 will be craftable so we could all get that stuka.

>> No.11619320

Does Yuudachi's voice also grind anyone ears?
Hearing that "poi" makes me want to punch kittens.

>> No.11619321

>>11619320
>not liking Poi.

>> No.11619322

>>11619320
Poi

>> No.11619325

>>11619320
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MsCphkNV00

>> No.11619327

>>11619320
From her picture, it's not what I was expecting but it's not too bad.

>> No.11619329

Fuck! I just run out the thing that allow you to build ship. Now I only have one last 'that thing'. Suggest me a Yuki/Shimakaze recipe.

>> No.11619330

>>11619320
Another kawiia voice is Abukuma

>> No.11619333

>>11619320
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MsCphkNV00

>> No.11619339

>>11619320
I hated it at first, then I leveled her to Kai 2.

Yuudachi is like, the best.

>> No.11619348

>>11619339
Might reconsider upon getting Kai-2.

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>>11619339

The thing I like most about her Kai 2 is the whole "Badass but still the same ol' Yuudachi" thing. It's really cute.

>> No.11619365
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>>11619312

>> No.11619370

So did anyone managed to find out what add-on was it in the other thread?

>> No.11619381

>>11619365
it would make sense if it's akebono, shiranui, or maya.
but kitakami? it's like someone trying to be ironic.

>> No.11619384

>>11619381
Though this event took a lot KTKM lives

>> No.11619392 [DELETED] 

>>11619384
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22192461?via=thumb_watch

>> No.11619399

>>11619329
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Construction

okay I understand and tolerate some rather uncommon questions, but you're just being extremely lazy here. I probably shouldn't even reply to you but...

>> No.11619405

Does/could this maintenance fuck up mean that there will be no lottery today?

>> No.11619411

>>11619405
Twitter just updated saying it's in 15 minutes.

>> No.11619416

>>11619411
So it did, cool.

>> No.11619419

I wish bad luck on everyone trying for the lottery unless you've read everything on the English wiki first.

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11619426

And the servers are back.

>> No.11619431
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11619431

No seriously, moot. Don't mess up my moment.

>> No.11619441

>>11619419
kinda harsh, can't say I totally disagree though

>> No.11619448

is it true that sitting at the boss talking screen halts the regen?

>> No.11619451

>>11619431
What's your support comp like?

>> No.11619460

>>11619448
yes. did it last night.
if it didn't work i'd have more than 1 smashed keyboard on my floor right now.

>> No.11619469

A question regarding the description of a quest on the Wiki:

On the quest Bw1 (あ号作戦) it says "Launch your fleet 36 times, encounter 24 bosses, defeat(rank B or above) 12 bosses, and get 6 Perfect S battle ratings. (no damage taken)".

Do those 6 Perfect S need to be on bosses?

>> No.11619473

>現在実施中の【秋の特別イベント】期間限定海域「決戦!鉄底海峡を抜けて!」の開催は【11/20】までの予定でしたが、数日間だけ期間延長させて頂くことを検討しています。その場合は、その延長期間のみ、同最深部海域に【新艦娘1隻】追加してドロップ配置させて頂く可能性があります。

Oh fuck, maybe I can actually beat E-4 now.

>> No.11619474

>>11619469
No.

>> No.11619477
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11619477

>>11619106
Hey, I can join you in the "time for sleep club". Even though I have an interview in a few hours...

Support team was a credit to the team, took out all of the grunts and mid-damaged the third princess.

>> No.11619482

gooks in charge of webdesign

>> No.11619485

>>11619451
Level 87 Kaga: Four Suisei
72 Akagi: One Suisei and three Type 99s
59 Hiei: Four 46cm
59 Kirishima: Four 46 cm
75 Bep: Three 12.7cm
55 Ushio: Three 12.7cm

Pretty slapped together because I have no experience with support fleets but they did their job fine. I had support the whole time but wasn't bringing the BBs until she was ready to die because the cost was exhausting. As for other advice, I did double line all the way to the boss because I felt like it made a huge difference when it came to cut ins and lucky shots dealing negligible damage. I also didn't bother with sparkling my fleet because every time I tried things went horribly wrong. For me it was a waste of time but I'm pretty unlucky. That final run had no sparkles and I perfect S'd my way to the boss node. Not all that uncommon but then the compass would fuck me. All in all it took 36 sorties, 26 of which made it to the whirlpool and 10 of which went NE. I felt really confident in the three repair equips I was using and that my orange ships wouldn't sink so it was a walk in the part after E-4.

>>11619477
Well I hope your luck holds out.

>> No.11619490

>>11619473
>同最深部海域に【新艦娘1隻】追加
Shit, need to grind E5 again ?

>> No.11619493

>>11619485
Thanks for the info

>> No.11619496

>>11619473
The event will be extended?

>> No.11619497

What must my BBV equip for E-3?Are Zuiun planes useful?

>> No.11619499

Jeez, I entered the lottery, reloaded once after 5 minutes, then tried it again and then the site shat itself for about 10 minutes. Now I opened another window and tried again and now it shows the waiting image again. Am I fucked because I kept reloading during the time that the site was besieged?

>> No.11619501

They're considering extending the event by a few days. If so, they will add a new girl that will only be available during that extended time.

>> No.11619505

>>11619490
I wonder if you can get her by cheesing it with 4 subs and rank A.

>> No.11619522

>>11619490
The fuck
I dont want to do E5 again.

>> No.11619524

>>11619522
They don't think you've suffered enough.

>> No.11619529

>>11619522
It's not like you're trying for Nagato, just 4 sub cheese E-5.

>> No.11619530

>>11619529
>>11619524
I did over 20+ sortie and didnt Nagato. No Agano too.
Guess who they gave me when I cleared E5, HOUSHOU. You wouldnt know the disappointment

>> No.11619534

>>11619530
We're not even sure if it's a E-5 drop. It'll probably be like Agano, which is good for me since I haven't started farming E-6.

>> No.11619537

>>11619534
What if Surprise! it's E4

>> No.11619538

>>11619534
>同最深部海域
Look like E5

>> No.11619539
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11619539

>>11619477
Let me tell you a pointless story.

>> No.11619541

>>11618852
I afk like this, excetp with KitaOoi in last

>> No.11619543

Is it worth it to level Kongou class BB for 15.5 cm or should I just try to craft them?

>> No.11619546

>>11619543
What?

>> No.11619549

>>11619538
Well then, time to see what's being dropped. I'm hoping for a Shinano given the trouble we have to go through.

>> No.11619551

>>11619549
They're only adding her if they decide to extend the event. Not yet.

>> No.11619555

>>11619546
I'm curious if it would be worth it to level Kongo class for 15.5 cm secondary cannons, or if it's easier to just try crafting 15.5 cm secondary cannons. I haven't gotten any when I do attempt crafts for them.

>> No.11619557

>>11619543
Crafting is better.
Leveling aside, remodel itself costs 0/600/400/0.

>> No.11619558

>>11619555
I got lots of yellow 15.5 from type 3 rounds crafting (10/90/90/30) maybe you can try that too.

>> No.11619563

>>11619555
You will get them when you try to craft for 46cm.
If you are just starting the game, go for 46cm. With 46cm, it is like playing in easy modo. You wont be afraid of carriers node anymore.

>> No.11619567 [SPOILER] 
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I love their responses when the new drop might be in E-5.

>> No.11619571

>>11619567
Is this game so little fun to play that people are afraid of playing it?

>> No.11619576

>>11619571
People are afraid of losing their ships.

>> No.11619598

I'm raging so hard at E-2 right now, my ships keep refusing to attack the enemy flagship and always aim for the weaker ships

WHY

>> No.11619601

>>11619598
Welcome to E2, E3, E4 and E5. Enjoy your stay.

>> No.11619613

Why is Akagi known as a Bauxite eater? I've had her for a while now and my Bauxite barely decreased, not like it increased either though since I never went for sorties or expeds with bauxite rewards

>> No.11619637

>>11619613
babby first carrier

>> No.11619644

every E-4 battle when going for the kill. First 2 ships kill the day battle triggers. down to 6.5k ammo/fuel. why? why?

>> No.11619649

>>11619644
I don't know, maybe you can start by learning English all over again?

>> No.11619650

>>11619644
英語でok。

>> No.11619652

>>11619650
お。。。k?

>> No.11619660

Today, 4 out of 5 teitokus left only one or two high lvl ships for easy exp, why aren't you such a good teitoku?

>> No.11619667

>>11619660
I do that all the time, but since my high level ships are destroyers... I'm not sure if people will like or dislike it

>> No.11619669

>>11619667
I still like you for that, high exp and sparkles

>> No.11619671
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11619671

Should i go for E-4?

>> No.11619672

>>11619671
You shouldn't, it destroys dreams.

>> No.11619673

>>11619671
>5742 fuel

No. Levels aren't too important because of night battles, but you don't have a chance unless you have a minimum of 10k fuel, hopefully 20k.

>> No.11619677

What's the number between your HQ level and development tools supposed to be?

>> No.11619679

>>11619677
Number of fleets

>> No.11619684

>>11619671
Don't. E4 is designed for the single purpose of bringing out the worst in you. If your resolve isn't strong, you'll soon find yourself sending droves of heavily damaged level 1 destroyers to their deaths.

I don't think the developers particularly care about the potential losses from quitting players, or gains from the damage control purchases. They just enjoy the suffering and desperation.

I managed to get through E4, but I am not doing E5. No sir, I'm done with this event. Never again.

>> No.11619687

>>11619671
I've smashed through 30k fuel/ammo/steel/ 200 buckets
i've smashed through my morality, sending girls in when they're red
i've smashed through (1) keyboard so far
And yet, the boss still sits there smirking with 0 health yet unable to be sunk. Its grin, timeless as i freeze it and wait until the next day where i can try and fail again.
I can't feel anything anymore.

>> No.11619688

>>11619684
>but I am not doing E5
E5 is easier than E4
If you have seen the hell of E4, E5 is like a walk in the park. There might be more compass trolling in E5 but thats it. Everything else is easier.

>> No.11619690

Is it true that you can get banner from connecting to KanColle through a phone/tablet?

>> No.11619696

>>11619690
Yes. Is it such a pain to have to give up the convenience of not being able to play a game every waking hour of your life?

>> No.11619694

>>11619690
When did they start handing out freebies for breaking rules?

>> No.11619695
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>>11619671
http://kancolle.doorblog.jp/archives/34806540.html
This guy did it, you can too.

>>11619690
Enjoy your ban.

>> No.11619703

>>11619696
I already lose enough hours in my sleep, I'd like to be able to use my ship girls while in class. But if it's no good, then I'll just have to leave them be during those 7 hours.

>> No.11619707

>>11619703
There are plenty of alternatives. Bring your laptop with you. Send an API link to your email and use a school computer. Skip class.

You won't be able to beat E-4 if you spend time obsessing over worldly attachments like life.

>> No.11619710

>>11619707
No laptop, if I had one I would not be asking this. I've already though about all that and none of them are an option. Well, I'll look at the good side of things, more fuel for me.

>> No.11619712

>>11619710
Just leave your computer on and use VNC through your tablet

>> No.11619713

After the changes to Kongou Kai2's resource usage, did they also change her repair costs to something more manageable or does she still cost a million steel to repair from red?

>> No.11619714

I left E-4 at Henderson-tan's speech, came back 12 hours prepared for another all nighter. But then I finished it with the first sortie.

RNG why.

>> No.11619715

>>11619688
I know that it is a great deal easier, but even seeing a boss gauge is traumatic after the nightmare that was E4. I'm not sending my daughters out to a weekend-spanning life-and-death struggle again.

>> No.11619720

>>11619710
Effective total of only 1440 fuel/ammo/steel resource every day(24 hours) when compared to doing expeditions while gaining exp at the same time. Go buy yourself a laptop anon

>> No.11619727

How are you guys keeping your resources while farming E3?
I am losing about 200fuel 400bauxite and 400ammo each run and about 3buckets + light repair.

>> No.11619730

Wait, so will the new ship they're going to add on E-5 be won by depleting the gauge all over again? Or is it just a random drop after winning against the node?

>> No.11619731

>>11619730
>depleting the gauge all over again
I don't think they're that cruel.

>> No.11619735

>>11619731
>I don't think they're that cruel.
I can't believe anyone would be deluded enough to think that highly of them.

>> No.11619737

>>11619730
E5 boss gauge will return to being full once you deplete it. After getting Musashi, depleting the gauge again will give you a random ship before it returns to full again. The new girl can only be obtained as a random drop from this bonus.

Also, the BB princess gets 100 more HP and 20 more attack every time you deplete her gauge.

>> No.11619738

>>11619731
>I don't think they're that cruel.
why would you say that?

>> No.11619739

>>11619737
Kancolle Devs plz go and stay go

>> No.11619743

Did they add that thing about remodeled submarines counting as normal submarines in expeditions?

Would try it myself but the sub expeditions are too long for me to check.

>> No.11619746

>>11619743
There's always that two hour sub expedition.

>> No.11619757

>>11619743
They did 2 updates ago

>> No.11619759

>>11619714
It's a sign that you should go for E-5 right away.

>> No.11619785

Time for E-4 final kill,no damage control left.
Any suggestions?

>> No.11619790

>>11619785
2CA 2KONGOU 2NAGATO 6x sanshiki
Line ahead all nodes, no retreat and final destination

>> No.11619795

>>11619790
But i don't have any Nagato,and i don't want to risk sinking my ships.

>> No.11619799

>>11619785
I've been using turbines and it sorta works, just don't advance if anyone is red.

>> No.11619812

>>11619799
What formation did you use?

>> No.11619821

>>11619812
Line abreast on all nodes before the boss.

>> No.11619912

>>11619821
No support fleet needed right?

>> No.11619917

>>11619912

Do you really want to risk leaving the bitch at 30hp because your girls kept shooting at that 10hp CA that would've been wiped out by support bombardment?

>> No.11619926

So, about farming steel in 3-2 by refreshing after hitting the node - did the bans actually happen because people wanted to get some extra precious resources during xp grind, or were the botting/scripts the main problem?

>> No.11619927

>>11619926
just get them like a normal player would and start scrapping ships

>> No.11619936

>>11619926
>●再接続(リロード)連打は禁止&ダメ絶対!

They got banned because they got caught. You can try and convince yourself, "Well, they only caught them because they were using a script, so I'm safe!", but every time you do it is another chance for them to erase all of your shipdaughters from existence.

>> No.11619937

>>11619926
You can just you know do the last node if you are worrying.

>> No.11619941
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11619941

How do I beat him?
I only got 2depth charges and my isuzu is only at 50.

>> No.11619944

>>11619926
Who was banned?

>> No.11619945
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>> No.11619946

>>11619936

I stopped farming this way as soon as I saw this, so I'm safe. Not risking this shit.

I still F5 dead ends on event maps sometimes. I should really stop myself.

>>11619937

That would stop being profitable, seeing potential repair bills that would be the result. That node is CV-heavy.

>> No.11619950
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11619950

They don't care about refreshing, just when you spam it in a short period of time. Play normally and take fatigue breaks and it's no problem.

>> No.11619951

>>11619945
Not so lucky, apparently.

>> No.11619952

>>11619945
now it's time to ask yourself, was it really worth it?

>> No.11619948

>>11619945
The fuck, how do you lose Yukikaze. Please kill yourself and I hope you never craft her again.

>> No.11619955

>>11619952
If i stop right now her death would be pointless.

>> No.11619960

>>11619945
No damage control?

What the hell have you done, teitoku?

>> No.11619963

>>11619960
I used all of them.

>> No.11619965

>>11619945
How did you lose her anyway? Start the battle with her in red, or is this one of those cases that the "ships never sink when you start in orange" crowd says shouldn't happen?

>> No.11619968

>>11619965
It was in red,it's all my fault for trusting her luck ;_;

>> No.11619972

>>11619968
Why do you people still keep using emoticons?

>> No.11619976

>>11619968
Is it worth it anon? Is it worth it for a nazisub that only has +1 armor on iku and worse torpedo stat?
You just lost the luckiest ship in the game and you arent getting her back.

>> No.11619977

>>11619968
it's a good thing this game has a mechanic where your flagship will never sink and doesn't rely on luck huh

>> No.11619978

>>11619972
Trying too hard to fit in

>> No.11619979

>>11619972
Stop trying so hard to fit in.

>> No.11619980

>>11619972
Every time.

>> No.11619983

>>11619972
No hate bruh ;_;

>> No.11619992

>>11619983
At least use a non-retarded looking one if you really have to

>> No.11619991
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11619991

>>11619945
;_; you're a terrible teitoku.

>> No.11620009

Unusual question I think but which expedition/map do you suggest for silver coins farming?
Seems like Nagato furniture will remain available for the extention of the event, so I might actually make it (unless grinding 25K within 2 weeks is still impossible).

>> No.11620012

>>11620009
3-3, you get a 2/3 chance of getting a box once you hit the pre-boss node.

>> No.11620022
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11620022

I was so glad when it only took 48 hours to blast through E-1 and E2, most of it on that second stage. I was so glad when I heard E-3 would be simple compared to E-2. Then I took a look at the recommended fleet setups for actually making it to the boss node.

I'm going to try and level Ooi and Akagi to at least 15 before I try again.

>> No.11620027

>>11620009
bauxite expedition

>> No.11620030

>>11620022
You only need 1 BB (exact) 1 CVL
That setup is for easy Hatsukaze farming.

>> No.11620034

>>11619976
That Krautsub has 20 luck stock, 25 upgraded. She is a nice one.

I feel bad for Imuya. Imuya deserves to get a Kai2 to keep up with the other subs.

>> No.11620039

>>11620034

Indeed. Her main advantage right now is that she remains a sub after remodel.

She could use more evasion (to avoid homogenizing) and torp power... maybe make her the only Fast sub available?

>> No.11620041

>>11620034
Doesn't Imuya have the best repair time?
She's definetely faster than Iku, more so after remodeling Iku.

>> No.11620043

>>11620034
Imuya is still useful since she still has 2slot and low repair time. Also with how common Imuya is, she is a great addition to your expedition team and there will always be spare low lvl Imuya to sparkle your fleet.

>>11620022
The fuck, how is Akagi lvl so low? Isnt she your first CV?

>> No.11620047

>>11620043

I still have one Imuya after all the time I spend grinding for her. Two Goyas though. I don't believe she's "common". Less rare than Zuiho, Zuikaku or Nagato maybe, but not Naka-chan common.

>> No.11620050
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>>11620047
I got 4since the event started and sank 1 at 1-1.
At the same time zero 5th division carrier and other destroyers. Blue background nicely at work. She is definitely much more common compare to silver background CA like Kinugasa or gold background CL like abukuma/yuubari.

>> No.11620053

>>11620050

I must have some retarded reverse luck then. I got 2 Yuubaris from 30/all crafts and I think I fed an Abukuma or two to Tenryuu last week.

Now if only I started getting Nagatos and Shoukakus...

>> No.11620089

>>11620030
I kept getting sent to H; I guess I'd somehow forgotten how much RNG rules this game after my E-2 formation went right to the boss 9 times out of 10. I'll try again later, thanks.

>>11620043
I got Kaga first via crafts and simply never used Akagi. I still don't have any of the fancy carriers though since I build for BBs or subs nowadays.

>> No.11620094

>>11620089
But Kaga is the fanciest of them all!

>> No.11620111

I've decided to skip doing E6 and go straight for E7/E5 (I haven't done E5 anyways) with sub. subs will always go to boss, although the bad part is that you are guaranteed B ranking, all day, every day...

>> No.11620129

Did we reach some conclusion about ships going into battle with medium damage and no fatigue? Will they sink or not?

>> No.11620152

I've had a lv1 destroyer (DD-I) one shot my lv56 Iku three times in a row grinding at 2-4-A. 1 BB/1 CV/ 1 CVL/ 2 CL(t)/1 SS.

Usually clear the node before the battle starts, RNG is crewing me a new one this morning...

>> No.11620157

>>11620129
We won't have any conclusion. Just make your own rule.
No one can guarantee your ship.

>> No.11620160

>>11620111
But the problem is that the golden CLs and DDs can 1shot you. If one of your subgirls go red at the first node, you have to retreat. It doesn't matter after the second node though.

>> No.11620187

>>11619946
Use 3+ subs. It's still very profitable.

>> No.11620198

>>11620187
4 subs is actually profitable for that matter. You almost never need to go go into 2nd round of shooting when you roll that many, and hell, you get A ranking very reliably and all from this.

>> No.11620220
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11620220

I'm done with this hell.
Yukikaze please forgive me.

>> No.11620226

>>11620220
based Maya-sama. She is incredible in this entire event.

>> No.11620235

>>11620220
why would she ever forgive you, anon, you just sunk her for being greedy and impatient even when event is now supposed to be extended

>> No.11620236

>>11620220
Holy crap they dogpiled the boss. You lucky bastard.

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>>11620226
Always hitting boss when it counts and never going to red. Maya-sama really was the MVP of this event.
Didn't do a single sortie without her.

>> No.11620262

>>11620250
Mayasama makes BBs look like useless ships that are only good for direction. I can count the times that Kongous hit Henderson airfield with just my hands, while it's always been Maya and the other CAs that pull though and kill gold BBs, CAs and just about everything else...

>> No.11620288

I can hate money with any kind of credit card, right? It's not stated on the guide, but I assume you don't need a Japanese card?

>> No.11620306

>>11620262
CAs really are the queens of the night. I don't have a serviceable Maya, but Kako was dropping ships left and right in E4 while shrugging off BB cut-ins with ease. She even sunk once, rose back up again by damage control, and finished off the exact single escort platform responsible for that insult.

>> No.11620311

>>11620262
CAs really are the queens of the night. I don't have a serviceable Maya, but Kako was dropping ships left and right in E4 while shrugging off BB cut-ins with ease. She even sunk once, rose back up again by damage control, and finished off the exact single escort platform responsible for that insult on the next run.

>> No.11620362

Ok. Just started sub cheesing E5. Only Hachi is still low at Lvl 35, Goya is 51, Iku 85 and Imuya 98.

I want to report that sparkle really works well, and highly cost effective for subs. As long as you don't think that you are doing E5 and just think of it as E7 runs, you should be able to keep at it for hours on end. I will check back if the subs can take out the boss's bar without any support expedition later on.

>> No.11620369

>>11620362
Good luck. What equip are you using? Did you remodel your subs to SSV?

>> No.11620373

Just beat e-1 and got an S on the boss node but no iku, do i need to clear it multiple times?

>> No.11620382

>>11620373
Yes. You need to clear it until the boss bar is depleted, which is at least thrice for E1. You will also need to sink the flagship in order to break the gauge and get your prize.

E1 and E2 do not have them, but later event maps feature boss gauges that regenerate.

>> No.11620383

>>11620373
Fully deplete the boss gauge and destroy the boss one more time to get your イク

>> No.11620386

>>11620369
Yea. Hachi will be SSV when she gets there. 2x torp on everyone, Imuya has the quintuple, and Iku has the new bow torps.

Torp rating:
Acht: 81
Iku: 114
Goya: 104
Imuya: 91

Every run costs less than 100 ammo. I haven't done any journal entry yet though.

>> No.11620390

>>11620382
Yeah, not going to try any other maps after E-1. Doesn't seem worth it, thanks for letting me know about the bar thing though.

>> No.11620395

>>11620390
It's worth doing E2 tbh. Grind up your ships to about level 25+, max them out. If you can do E2, you can handle up to 3-2 on the map for sure.

>> No.11620401

>>11620395
Hum alright, my highest levels are CA/Ca/Ca/BB/CVL/CVL and 2 DDs that are pretty close to those, would a comp constructed from that be fine?

>> No.11620407

>>11620401
e2 is a night battle map, so CA and DD reign supreme.

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>>11620220
Pic related.
This is the another future that can be happen.

Now there isn't anywhere.

>> No.11620419 [DELETED] 

0 daughters lost. All maps cleared. Leisurely grinding on E-3 and other even maps for Agano, Hatsukaze and Suzuya. Feels good man.

>> No.11620430

>>11620408
0 daughters lost. All maps cleared. Leisurely grinding on E-3 and other even maps for Agano, Hatsukaze and Suzuya. Feels good man.

>> No.11620440

>>11620407
Alrightie, sankyuu teitoku

>> No.11620445

>>11620430
same. 0 daughteru lost in the event here. I don't like the inefficiencies of sacrificial pawn tactic. Rather sparkle fleet instead.

>> No.11620447

>>11620430
>grinding E4 for Suzuya.
That shouldn't feel good at all.

>> No.11620451

>>11620440
You could go through E2 without even having a CA, but you should have it in your fleet.

>> No.11620459

>>11620447
E-4's not bad at all when I'm not worrying about the regenerating gauge.

>>11620445
A toast to you, fine admiral.

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>>11620430
Can I ask your advice then?

I'm grinding 3-2 for Yukikaze and Ooi remodel.
Resources 13k/15k/13k.

I have 25Hiei and fully modernized 47Kirishima,34Maya fully modernized and 2 sanshikis.

What should I do?Should I keep grinding?Or should I go into full resource grinding mode with 2-3sub farming?

I'm still stuck at E2 with an empty gauge though.

>> No.11620487

>>11620460
Well, there's a week left + possible extension to the event. I'd say you have enough to clear at least E-4 if you run expedition amost constantly while focusing on leveling your kanmusu. Average level 50 is fine for E-4. Dig through the threads to check out what the fleet composition of other admirals were, and adjust your team as necessary.

For a short term goal, get DDs, CL(T)s, CAs to level 30 minimum and clear E-2.

>> No.11620505

>>11620487
Thanks.
That is basically my plan too.What I really want to ask what should be the limit for crafting?I'm not having the greatest luck and I need basically everything;turbines, 2more 3shikis, 15.5's and 46's.Where should I stop resource-wise?

I forgot to add 156buckets and a fully modernized level 54KTKM.

I also saved 2 E5 clear reports, I'm trying to shape my fleet into that.Though it bugs me that people always chose Kongou+Haruna because of obvious reasons whilst I will have Kirishima+Hiei.

>> No.11620527

>>11620505
You want to maintain your resources to be at the max cap for natural regen so that you don't miss out on 1440/resource/day, until 4~5 days before E-4 where you want to stock up as much as possible, so you want to plan your crafting and level grinding around that. 46 cm guns are not necessary. 15.5 cm are useful. Minimum 4 sanshikidan for the final E-4 kill. Which Kongou sister you go with does not matter.

Anyways, all this is available on the resources and the threads, so don't expect me to keep on answering the all.

>> No.11620538

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G1goCDnrvA
How is it possible that his Shigure cuts in with two 53cm torpedos?

>> No.11620539

>>11620527
Thank you.
Sorry if I bothered you.

>> No.11620548
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4 runs in and Hiei flag has never lead me astray. I left all of today open to do E-4, but it looks like I'll be done sooner than expected! Good day for bragging, Teitokus!

>> No.11620552

>>11620538
The cut-in animation always lists 3 weapons for some reason, so his 2-torpedo cut-in lists the 53cm twice.

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>>11620548
"You spoke too soon" might just heppen, you know. E-4 boss' survival instinct seems to kick in, in time for the last kill.

>> No.11620582

>>11620548
Celebrate when you've actually beaten it. There's a reason people have gone nuts doing E-4.

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>>11620548
Welp, next run, Hiei lead me astray. Very quick shop because I don't have time for this. That should teach me to brag.

>> No.11620621

>>11620607

Why are you blaming your innocent girls?

It's the Compass Devils fault.

>> No.11620640
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11620640

Built a Yuubari both yesterday and today with daily 30/30/30/30. Seems like a sign to try E-5.

>> No.11620649

>>11620640
with 3K steel? good luck with that

>> No.11620653

>>11620649
I still have 2 week.

>> No.11620728

Sub cheesing guy here. Currently, about half a bar has been taken off from the boss. a hit can deal anywhere from 50-100 odd damages if cut-in happens.

It will take a very long time to whittle down the health bar btw. You would be laughing your way to the bank however. Expedition 2,3 and 5 will keep your subs fed indefinitely by themselves.

In short, a valid, but very time consuming way to do E5/E7

>> No.11620731

>>11620728
(half a bar gauge. not Half HP)

>> No.11620741

How can any of you stand using Yuudachi as your flagship?

>> No.11620750

>>11620741
お腹いっぱいっぽい!

>> No.11620753

>>11620741
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MsCphkNV00

>> No.11620755

>>11620741
You got a problem with poi?

>> No.11620757

>>11620741
One poi at a time. She was grating at first but once she turned into a demon the gap moe of how cute and playful she acts became really endearing.

>> No.11620761

>>11620741
Because, I want to poi her, again and again.

>> No.11620762

>>11620750
I felt like intentionally sinking her after levelling her up to 10

>> No.11620767

>>11620728
Thanks for the update. Any good drops?

>> No.11620783

>>11620767
nothing noteworthy. Only Ooi so far. 3 Haguro from the boss node in a row for some reason.

>> No.11620796

Just how freaking rare are 46cm triples? By now I feel like I have a better chance of bug-crafting Yamato than crafting it the damn gun.

>> No.11620798
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11620798

>>11620783
Would be funny if it was Ashigara

>> No.11620799

>>11620796
they'll take a while.

>> No.11620812

>>11620577
Currently at the middle panel. I'd like to think it's going very well, but the first and second panels were so accurate I'm scared about the third one...

>> No.11620816

>>11620728
What formation are you using for the first two nodes?

>> No.11620820

>>11620816
double line. After that it's all single line ahead.

>> No.11620839

>>11620798
I've never had Ashigara on my team as the only time I used a CA was for the event and I went with Tone. Is Ashigara that lewd?

>> No.11620892

>>11620839
No. She does have that library entry talking about her 'vigorous body' but she isn't trying to be lewd. Doesn't stop the gags from forming.

>> No.11620897

>>11620839
Not really. She's far more into tearing abyss ship guts than men.

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>> No.11620920

>>11620892
>>11620897
Thanks.

>> No.11620929

This event made me realize how shit this game really is.

It's nothing but luck. Nothing else matters.

Nobody would play this if not for the girls.

>> No.11620934

>>11620929
Sounds like a very painful metaphora for life too.

>> No.11620963

>>11620929
I actually realize this everyday but I'm still addicted.

However, the girls make this game amazing and worth playing.

>> No.11620964

>>11620934
But my life has no cute girls, how can I stop playing this shitty game with no girls?
I cant find the log off/exit button

>> No.11620965

>>11620963
Pretty much, its a shitty game where the only thing that matters is luck, nothing else.

The girls make it worth playing though, and it'll be fun to discuss when more material and the anime rolls around.
Cant wait for the vita version, all the painful grinding will be more tolerable for me on the vita.

>> No.11620968

>>11620964
>I cant find the log off/exit button
Pffft ahaha.

>> No.11620970

>>11620965
Who knows maybe the Vita game won't be about luck and be a completely different game.

I can't see a Vita game with 9 hour repairs time for an Akagi.

>> No.11620980

>>11620965

I have a feeling they are going to fuck this up. Hard.

>> No.11620984

If this game wasn't luck dependent, it wouldn't be half as popular or "fun". I guess not many people have realized this as I thought.

>> No.11620985

>>11620970
I think they said something about the vita game being a port of the browser game so its probably going to be the same thing but faster, portable and without error girls fucking up your game.

This kind of game should have been portable from the start anyway instead of a FLASH browser game.

>> No.11620988

>>11620984
I don't think I would still be playing if it wasn't luck dependent.

The luck defiantly brings the drive, excitement and huge relief when you beat a boss you've been trying hard to defeat.

>>11620985
That kinda sucks I was hoping for something fresh and new to take off stress from the browser game.

>> No.11620994

>>11620984

The thing is it's 100% luck and nothing else.

>> No.11621004

>>11620988
I really like the game, my only complaints would be about how bullshit the RNG is in this game and how hard work means nothing, someone luckier than you can get what took you ages to get in a couple tries.

And the fatigue, the painful grind and bullshit RNG were not enough, they had to add fatigue to stop you from doing too many sorties or from grinding too much, its really the worst enemy when trying to do some mindless grinding to level up your ships.

>> No.11621020

>>11621004
fatigue? just rotate your ships, do you really only want to level 6 anyway?

>> No.11621029

>>11621004
The effort you spend in order to get your daughters and the hardships you endure with your long-standing fleet only make you cherish them even more, though.

I used to dislike girls with eyepatches, but after 80 levels and an event run with Kiso, I don't care anymore. I'll love her no matter how she looks.

>> No.11621030

>>11621020
Rotating your ships constantly is such a pain though and sometimes I just want to focus on leveling one ship or a few ships I like and fatigue makes it harder than it already is.

>> No.11621034

>>11621029
I know what you mean. Before the event, I didn't level Ooi even knowing she was just as strong as Kitakami because she looked chubby to me. But now I'm thankful to have her blowing stuff up for me.

>> No.11621038

>>11621034
I dont like Ooi cursing at me every time I repair her so I never bothered leveling her, only leveled kitakami.

>> No.11621039

I just got Mitsu today, and I didn't really like her design and was a little upset I didn't get Nagato.

But then she was getting MVP all the time for me and her destroyed picture looks so much better.

I'm actually liking her a lot now.

>> No.11621042

>>11621038

What's wrong anon, don't like verbal abuse? I bet you hate being dominated by your kanmusu too, fag.

>> No.11621043

>>11621039
this is what happened to me
except i never called her mitsu

>> No.11621047
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11621047

>>11621043
What about mootsu?

>> No.11621049

>>11621047

Would Mootsu's secretary lines be how much he likes to shitpost?

>> No.11621050

>>11621043
Oh I need sleep I meant Mutsu...

>> No.11621052

>>11621042
All my attention goes to the cute girls like nanodesu, poipoi or the sniper of the sea.

Girls that curse at their admiral are not cute at all.

>> No.11621053

>>11621038
I didn't like that too but I just think of Michishio and thought Ooi was far from her level.

>> No.11621064

>>11621029
>>11621034
Same thing happened to me with a few ships, I leveled Yuudachi only for her kai 2 remodel but now she's one of my favorite ships and my favorite destroyer with a place on my main fleet.

Or maya/chokai, I leveled them because I needed a couple CAs in my fleet and they looked like they would be perfect for the job and now they really grew on me and are currently my favorite CAs.
Really like kumano too but I dont have her so my opinion of her will have to wait til the RNG decides I can have her.

Pretty much every ship that I end up leveling for stats, luck or whatever reason ends up becoming one of my favorites after all that hard work and effort in leveling them up.

>> No.11621098

>>11621029

That would be true if what you do actually mattered.

As it is it's just RNG. Game decides everything for you.

>> No.11621131

>>11620728
Do you bucket?
1crit = 1.5hour of dock time

>> No.11621149

>>11620577
I'm still here... Why is this image so accurate...

>> No.11621151

>>11621131
1 buckets per sortie or something like that. Not using bucket frequently at all. My bucket sum has actually grown while expedition 2 is being run.

Resource wise, it's clear net gain in all categories.

>> No.11621153

If you hated money for points, you have to log in the normal way with a proxy to spend it, right? So no api.

>> No.11621159

>>11621153
Also, does it take some time for the cash to appear? I paid like 10 minutes ago but it's not visible in the game yet.

>> No.11621181

have you guys ever not gotten a reward with a perfect S rank? just wondering because i got a DD from 1-1-A like 10 times in a row with perfect S, then threw a level 1 at it and got a B rank with no reward.

i get the feeling that rank affects the chance that something will drop, rather than the chance that said drop will be a rarer ship. guess it could be both though.

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>>11621181
Got this with A on e5, according to the Japanese threads at livedoor and the wiki, drops starts at B, and the higher the rank the higher the chance.

>> No.11621198

I've gotten Zuikaku and Hatsukaze off E-3.

Should I continue E-3 in an attempt to get Shoukaku and Zuihou, or move on and progress with 3-2 and go back to leveling up new ships?

>> No.11621210

>>11621198
You should keep doing E3, events don't last forever you know

>> No.11621212

>【長門桐箪笥の提供期間について】 現在「家具屋さん」で交換可能な「長門桐箪笥」は【11/27 09:00】予定のメンテナンスまで入手可能期間が延長されました。また、いずれラインナップされる可能性はありますが、家具コインを貯めている提督は、この機会をぜひご活用ください!
YES

>> No.11621229

>>11621212
Fuck, now I have to attempt E4 again. I was alright with giving up after that shit-slog...

>> No.11621234

>>11621229
E4 is pig disgusting in every way.

>> No.11621236

>>11621159
You have to buy points with that money in the account. Otherwise it should appear shortly.

>> No.11621240

>>11621234
I feel that sinking E5 was harder than E4, Fuck that formation

>> No.11621241

>>11621240
That antisub formation is also antiair. BBs are definitely needed and called for to finish off the boss.

>> No.11621243

>>11621240
You have a guarantee night battle and 6ships double shooting her. Hell you could have S rank a few times without even calling for support.
E4 is all about luck with your sanshiki ships all shooting her during night phase.

>> No.11621244

>>11621240
I sank E4 with the throw away ship tactics, so I didn't know true hell until E5 too.

>> No.11621247

Fighting a high level in pvp that had two lvl 5x ships in his party...then white screen/flash stopped/etc.

Relog...admiral changed his party to two lvl1's + high level BB's and CV's.

>> No.11621251

>>11621243
Ah yes, I think it's mostly because I'm fairly new and all my ships are around 50-60s, E4 was easier for me because night battles levels don't mean much, but E5 boss day battle rreally hurts me without the extra evasion and stuff

>> No.11621254

>>11621251
It is supposed to hurt. You just need to go into night battle to S rank it. Everytime you pussy out and retreat you are getting a D.

>> No.11621255

>>11621254
You cant do much when 4 out of your 6ships are red in night battle, thats what i meant by hurt

>> No.11621263

According to twitter, the event has indeed been extended until 11/27 @ 09:00 JST.

>> No.11621264

>>11621263
New ship is being added too and another BB is getting a Kai2

>> No.11621267

Sub guy here. Just wanted to report that the boss health bar basically remained consistent. Achtacht-chan went from 36 to Lvl47 and I managed to get Imuya to 99.

No significant drop so far. I am happy to report that the policy of sparkling when it comes to subs do translate into an endless supply of DDs, solving all your steel problem. If you guys have run of resources, do sub cheesing nonstop.

Is this what Karl Donitz feels like during his happy times?

>> No.11621268

>>11621264
You guys think it's Hiei right?

>> No.11621270

>>11621263
While it's nice to see them confirm it, it was pretty much assumed from yesterday. It would have been a real fucking cocktease for them to say, "We're considering extending the event." only to backpedal and say, "Nah, just kidding fuckers!" the next day.

>> No.11621271

>>11621270
Have you been to E4 yet?

>> No.11621272

>>11621267
3 subs or 4? I still need a damned Goya.

>> No.11621277

>>11621270
>>11621271
The E4 hellhole is all about some golden CA critting your BB to red health, all day, every day. I still am traumatized by this shit.

>> No.11621280

>>11621272
4. I plan to run this with 3x SSV when I can finally take Achtacht to 50.

I must report that the effective of your subs jump up en

>> No.11621282

>>11621277
Sparkling BBs helped me, you shouldn't have taken it too easy anon.

>> No.11621285

>>11621280
jump up massively after level 50. It's worth doing the refit if you need the hitting power.

>> No.11621289

>>11621268
I'm hoping it's Fuso.

>> No.11621292

>>11621268
>>11621289
Notice how they're spamming their twitter about how important the Nagato tansu bullshit is.

It's Nagato, just wait for it.

>> No.11621293

>>11621289
Most likely Kirishima.

n the aftermath of the Battle of Cape Esperance, the Japanese Army opted to reinforce their positions on Guadalcanal. To protect their transport convoy from enemy air attack, Admiral Yamamoto sent Haruna and Kongō, escorted by one light cruiser and nine destroyers, to bombard Henderson Field. Because of their high speed, the two battleships could bombard the field and withdraw before being subjected to air attack from aircraft carriers.[26] On the night of 13–14 October, the two battleships shelled Henderson Field from a distance of 16,000 yards (15,000 m), firing 973 14-inch shells. In the most successful Japanese battleship action of the war,[19] the bombardment heavily damaged both runways, destroyed almost all available aviation fuel, incapacitated 48 of the airfield's 90 aircraft, and killed 41 men.[27] The Japanese troop convoy reached the island the next day.[26]

>> No.11621296

>>11621293
Meant Haruna. wtf was I smoking.

>> No.11621300

>>11621292
Nagato is good enough already.

>> No.11621301

>>11621300
You don't think the devs actually care about balance, do you?

>> No.11621309

>>11621289
I actually do too, or Haruna, or Yamashiro. If it happens to be Fusou, she could finally call herself lucky for once.
>>11621292
Not Nagato please.
>>11621296
>>11621293
And here I thought Japs never did anything impressive with their BBs.

>> No.11621311

>>11621255
Are you doing it without 46cm?
The only ships that hit hard in that node is the BB.

>> No.11621316

>>11621309
The Kongou class and Ise class are the ones with very distinguished action. Ise and Hyuga survived Leyte and actually killed aircrafts using sanshikidan, while the Kongous were running about since they were fast enough to keep up with carrier task force and whatnot.

>> No.11621330

>>11621309
I really hope its haruna, I actually have her at a decent level and would love to remodel her.
Even better if its something lower like a remodel at 70 instead of 75 or 80

>> No.11621336

>>11621309
The Henderson field was probably their most successful operation using their BBs. Other than that their BBs are mostly inferior to American BBs, even Iowa-class can easily outgun the Yamato and Musashi.

>> No.11621346

>>11621311
Yes fairly new and not that much luck with crafting etc. I already finish e5 though so all that suffering is behind me now

>> No.11621347

>>11621336
It's arguable if the Iowa can outgun Yamato or not, but the American fire control and damage control, and radar are superior. It's more than likely for the Iowa class to survive the engagement.

>> No.11621350

>>11621316
I guess that explains their high luck.
>>11621330
Same here anon.
>>11621336
I remember reading that Hiei and Kirishima lost a 2v2 against American BBs in Guandancal(?). I'm guessing those are the two Ta classes with the E-4 boss.

>> No.11621356

100k ppl finished E4.
50k ppl finished E5.

Nicely done fellow admirals.

>> No.11621358

>>11621347
The Yamato's 46cm has a slightly higher range than the 16in guns of the Iowa-class but both nearly has the same armor penetrating capability, only that the 16in ammo was lighter and the Iowa-class had radar, fire and damage control.
>>11621350
It's because most of the IJN ships concentrated on the South Dakota, and even if the Washington was unable to contact the South Dakota due to its comms being disabled, it managed to distinguish who the IJN are due to the ships firing on the South Dakota and fired on Kirishima on point-blank range

>> No.11621359

>>11621350
Kirishima's duel was one of the few BB vs BB engagements in ww2. She fought against USS Washington, a North Carolina class ship, and USS South Dakota.

>> No.11621362

>>11621356
tomorrow that's going to be 100.001k

>> No.11621363

Less talking about nerd bullshit
More talking about the game
Seriously, military otaku are the worst

>> No.11621364

>>11621356
I am more interested in hearing how many ships were sacrificed in E4 and E5.

A war monument for our fallen, as it were.

>> No.11621365

>>11621363
If you don't know this shit, then you'll never know about your ship daughteru and the reason why the event is running as it is. bet you don't even know about Ironbottom sound prior to the event.

>> No.11621366

>>11621365
there's no such thing as an ironbottom sound
get out of here

>> No.11621367

>>11621363
The military discussion is the best part of these threads.

It's great whenever these "which foreign ships do you want to see in the game?" discussions roll around.

>> No.11621368

>>11621364
I bet people have replicated the losses. Someone is bound to have lost Kirishima and Hiei. Furutaka, Yudachi and Fubuki all died there irl.

>> No.11621369

>>11621363
>nerd bullshit
>nerd bullshit about historical facts of the ships in-game
>military otaku are the worst
And I read somewhere most of the players who got hooked in the game were military otaku as well.

>> No.11621372

>>11621366
No b8 pls

>> No.11621374

>>11621367
But they'll never seriously add foreign ships because most gunota are right wing nationalists.

>> No.11621375

>>11621369
most are here for the kawiaa girls

>> No.11621377

>>11621374
They will. They are bound to add German ships. The right wing nationalists are a-ok with kraut ships. They go wet over U-Boat.

>> No.11621376

>>11621366
What would an iron bottom sound like?

>> No.11621379

>>11621368
The Kancolle version of the Ironbottom Sound must be piled so high with ship corpses that one could practically walk his way across the Solomon Islands.

>> No.11621380

>>11621359
So it was 1v3? Damn it Hiei.
>>11621363
There's barely anything to talk about the game anon, take it easy.
>>11621364
I'd rather have a list of sub par Admirals using the very same tactic that failed Japan and sacrificed brave men.
>>11621367
Whenever I see this, I always think of Saratoga and Enterprise.

>> No.11621384

>>11621380
I am still waiting for the grudge match of the Yorktown sisters with CarDiv1 and CarDiv2. Akagi and Kaga watch Big E gloat about what she did to the IJN after Midway...

>> No.11621387

>>11621380
Come to think of, Enterprise was the first USN carrier that was capable of night-time operations. Could be the reason why some Wo-class carriers can attack at night.

>> No.11621406

>>11621387
What is the reason for them not launching planes at night anyway? No lights at the carrier runway?

>> No.11621412

>>11621406
Thank about it. The inherent difficulty in landing airplanes at night, the dangerous conditions on flight deck...

>> No.11621420

>>11621406
Night operations is a difficult one. As described by a dive-bomber pilot during WWII, during moonless nights, "there is no horizon, and no horizon means you'd get vertigo real easy. You figure you're turning, the seat of your pants tells you you're turning and you look at your gauges and you're going straight ahead." This can lead to panic or even dizziness. Combine that with the difficulty of landing at night, well it's really hard to accomplish, getting to your target and going back home.

>> No.11621424

>>11621384
>grudge match of the Yorktown sisters with CarDiv1 and CarDiv2
Should definitely be a cage match with masks and themed outfits. At least one German suplex is necessary.

>>11621406
Carrier runways are just barely illuminated, because else you're broadcasting your location to the entire ocean. Add some rain or fog and you're in a world of hurt.

>> No.11621426

>>11621406
they didnt have night vision goggles back then

>> No.11621463

What formation should I use on E5 first node? It always put something to orange for me with the double line

>> No.11621468

>>11621463
vertical all node

>> No.11621492

>>11621463
Is the double line ever useful?

>> No.11621497

>>11621492
It's the "balanced" formation which slightly raises all stats. I used to do this when I didn't really know much about fleet formations.

>> No.11621500

>>11621492
No idea
From my personal experiece, double line has worse evasion rate compare to vertical. Not worth it for the extra bonus armor.
Vertical line evasion is pretty comparable to horizontal imo.

>> No.11621503
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about to give up since i'm running out of fuel but i guess this is how RNG works

fuel: 15000 -> 1108
ammo: 24000 -> 10562
steel: 28000-> 10940
bucket: 390-> 182

I never got 46cm triple cannon over 50 tries so I gave up and used 41cm twin cannon

>> No.11621504

>>11621387
>>11621406
>>11621412
>>11621420
>>11621426
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V-2zQCbwc0&t=28m19s

>> No.11621507

>>11621500
Sub guy again. If you are big on torp, double line. you basically forfeit torping if you use vertical.

>> No.11621513

>>11621507
What do you mean?
The default formation at 2-3 with less than 3subs is vertical. Torpedo rarely miss. Same with kitaooi. Using anything other than vertical mean you risk missing.
I am going to try running 4subs with vertical to see how it goes.

>> No.11621518

>>11621513
Stop with the confusion.
line ahead and 2 lines ahead are good for torp. (1 and 2)
Line abreast is good for antisub and evasion.

>> No.11621523

>>11621518
Echelon(formation 4/diagonal) is also good for torpedoes.

>> No.11621527

>>11621523
Echelon seems to work only at night judging from 4-1 sub node. Elite sub always miss during the day phase.

>> No.11621532

>>11621504
I hope we get an event depicting Truk next time.

>> No.11621534

How do you guys usually clear quest Bd7 weekly (700 bauxite)?

I have been doing 4-1 with CA/DD + 2CLTs but I wonder if there are a more cost efficient composition

>> No.11621535

>>11621380
>I'd rather have a list of sub par Admirals using the very same tactic that failed Japan and sacrificed brave men.
It's not like they had any better tactics to use.

>> No.11621539

>>11621492
Double line is probably the best formation choice 90% of the time. The defensive bonus is noticeable, and the damage bonuses are almost as good as vertical line. Unless you need to do absolutely as much damage as possible, like on boss nodes, double-line is the best.

>> No.11621542

>>11621535
We will never know that for sure since they were bent on using a largely ineffective tactic.

>> No.11621565

What is the BB recipe that can give you kumano/nagato again?
400/100/600/30 or do I need to pile up more ammo?

>> No.11621568

>>11621542
And what was that? They had mistakes here and there in carrier battle doctrine but largely they lost to intelligence and technological deficiencies, lack of resources, and sheer American industrial might.

>> No.11621581

>>11621568
The Japanese would've done much better if they put their excellent subs to use like the germans with the wolf pack. It's quite a pity really for them.

>> No.11621583

>>11621581
>>11621568
and another thing. the Long Lance is the best torpedo in ww2, bar none. Nobody had anything that comes close.

>> No.11621587

>>11621565
999/999/999/100.

>> No.11621590

>>11621568
I don't understand your point, are you saying that it was okay for the Japs to keep on using Kamikaze attacks? Sure America's industry surpassed even the entirety of Europe at that point but if you were in the Japs' position,would you actually think sacrificing your men would get you victory?

>> No.11621591

Admirals' Blog Report: Finally got around to finishing E-2.

Campaign medals for: Junyou 75, Naka 60, Akebono 63, Kako 59, Kirishima 58, Arashio 57, Hibiki 56, Yamashiro 51, Sendai 46, Haguro 48, Nagatsuki 44, Ikazuchi 39, Chitose 38, Zuikaku 38, Tenryuu 36, Nachi 30, 27 Zuihou, 27 Kikuzuki, 24 Murakumo. Props to Haguro for completely ignoring the enemy elite DD and following up on Nachi's ~150 damage for the kill.

Pretend there's a picture of Noshiro to the left.

>> No.11621592

Hmm... so remodelling removes the sparkle buff on your ship, I don't know what I expected

>> No.11621594

>>11621590
Willpower wins wars.
Uncrushable Japanese spirit is the most powerful weapon.

>> No.11621596

>>11621591
your ships are that high in level? you can handle E4 with that actually.

>> No.11621598

>>11621591
is Noshiro worth getting or is she just another prize ship?

>> No.11621599

>>11621592
You are basically trading up the ship daughteru when you remodel. You need to modernize all over again.

>> No.11621602

>>11621592
Suprised me too that first time it happened, I was thinking kanmusu should be happy when they get remodeled. There was a joke in the 4koma that remodeled kanmusu forget their memories before the remodel.

>> No.11621603

>>11621590
Typical American wouldnt understand the nips japanese spirit and strong sense of patriotism.
For them, surrendering is worse that committing sudoku.

>> No.11621604

Would you play a Kancolle otome version with hot guys as ships?

>> No.11621605

>>11621590
>>11621594
Even without fuel or enough weapons for everyone involved, including civilians, the projected losses for an American invasion of Kyushu were super-high for this reason alone. And for all the thumping the SOviets did, they didn't have much of a way to cross into Japan from Manchuria, so the Americans would have really taken a lot of losses. It's interesting to look at what could have happened.

>> No.11621607

How do you guys reassure yourselves every time you sacrifice a ship to modernization?

>> No.11621610

>>11621604
still better than shotas, maybe

>> No.11621612

>>11621610
They'll be the DD's.

>> No.11621614

>>11621581
It's possible that they could have inflicted far more damage to merchant shipping, but Japan was far, far more vulnerable to attacks on shipping than the Western allies, because we had so much more to spare.

>>11621583
Type 95 was pretty good, too, but that's also Japanese so who cares.

>>11621590
It's not like Japan was going to win the war at any point in time (they had chances early on but a variety of intelligence coups took that from them), but from a military perspective, the only truly ineffctive suicide tactics utilized were banzai charges and Ten-Go.

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>>11621604
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22058639

>> No.11621619

>>11621603
Japan didn't understand the American mentality either. They didn't realize that Americans do not take no for an answer, and that the American reinforcement is endless.

I actually wonder just how much do the Jap soldiers hate the Americans by 1942 onwards. Do they actually detest and despise them in every way? Do they think that the Americans are absolutely remorseless and blood thirsty?

>> No.11621620

>>11621590
But the Japanese leadership did win. The Emperor kept his power, most of the major kazoku families like the Konoe and the Hosokawa kept their wealth and still are involved in politics today, and most of the families behind the Zaibatsu are still as rich as ever.

The only people who really lost were the militarists. And the civilian population.

>> No.11621621

>>11621610
How does it makes you feel that the elite/flagship CAs in E4 are all shotas?

>> No.11621623

>>11621605
I think the causalities were in hundreds of thousands out of the initial invasion estimate (since they were using Okinawa to estimate the Coronet/Olympia)

>> No.11621624

>>11621605
the soviets didnt have landing capacity yet, but if America didnt want high US casualties and the Soviets wanted landing craft...

well we already gave them tanks and oil for use against the germans, so I could easily see the US supplying the soviets with the D-Day landing craft for the invasion of Japan.

>> No.11621625
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>>11621617
YES!

Ktkm is a true god

>> No.11621627

>>11621617
I burst out laughing at Inazuma

>> No.11621628

>>11621605
It really is quite interesting, I read a book on it (Hell to Pay) recently after Kancolle reignited my interest in WWII. It's estimated that Japanese deaths could have reached twenty million, with the Americans suffering a million deaths and four times that in casualties.

>>11621620
>The only people who really lost were the militarists. And the civilian population.
So, a few rich families made it out safely, and almost everyone else lost. Pretty sure that's not what people call victory.

>>11621607
I only modernize copies. They were only phantoms, the real one is resting in the dock.

>> No.11621631

>>11621620
The militarists were the ones to blame. They basically staged a coup on the diet during Taisho period. They caused the empire to overextend itself, and honestly, they deserved to rot and get hanged and to have committed sudoku, every last one of them.

>> No.11621633

>>11621619
Most were taught from the very first that the Americans were bloodthirsty barbarians. Same way the Americans regarded the Japanese. It's just how the Germans treated the Russians. Those Japanese who surrendered to the Americans were surprised to the treatment they received.
>>11621624
The battle-hardened Soviets with their superior mechanized forces could overwhelm the Japanese. However had the Soviets invaded Japan, Japan would be very different from now.

>> No.11621637

>>11621633
The soviets gave Japan a taste in Manchuria, where they sent out the IS-3 on them... it was the greatest single push by Red Army ever I think.

>> No.11621638

>>11621633
I'd imagine the Soviets would've turned into some sort of gulag camp for everyone. They weren't exactly known to treat POW's well.

>> No.11621639

>>11621594
I remember reading something about the emperor telling the Japs to "bear the unbearable" when they surrendered, that another kind of willpower right there, why didn't they just call it quits early.
>>11621603
That is probably true. It's admirable and all but do you think it was wise for them to hang on to that at that situation?
>>11621605
Yeah the Americans would have taken more losses but they were committed to taking down Japan. Japan was very very likely going to lose, throwing people wasn't going to change that.

Anyway, all I'm trying to say is that it's a pity many were continued to be sacrificed (and planned to be sacrificed) on what already proved to be ineffective and likely ultimately pointless.

>> No.11621644

>>11621596
I have to get over E-3 first, which is easier said than done because my battleships and carriers are underleveled. And even after that I only have 18k resources (before Sanshiki party), 200 buckets, and one remodeled Kongou-class battleship. I might try and break through on the second to last day.

>>11621625
Congratulations. What was the final tally?

>> No.11621649

>>11621639
Do you really expect them to surrender with unfavorable terms?
Japan was never going to surrender without the A-bombs. They were going to continue doing kamikaze hoping for a ceasefire.

>> No.11621651

>>11621639
>Yeah the Americans would have taken more losses but they were committed to taking down Japan. Japan was very very likely going to lose, throwing people wasn't going to change that.
The Japanese weren't going to win the war, but they did want to retain the national polity. Their aim was to make the Americans weary of war, and negotiate a peace that guaranteed the continued existence of the government and Imperial institution. Instead they near-unconditionally surrendered, so we rolled in there, executed the perpetrators of war, and instituted our own government on them for a decade.

>> No.11621657

>>11621598
She's a fairly good CL, but like most "is it worth it" questions it mostly depends on whether you personally like her or not.

>> No.11621658

>>11621628
You seem to suggest that the rich families really ever gave a damn about everyone else in the first place. They were pretty close to letting every citizen die just to keep their own power. Hell, if the Americans hadn't hinted that they would allow the Showa Emperor to keep power, they probably would have.

>>11621631
The zaibatsu and kazoku let the militarists get away with it. The only prime minister that didn't come from one of those families was assassinated by an ultranationalist. Militarism, like Nazism, wasn't something forced on the people. Much to the contrary, their support was instrumental in its rise to power. No one supported the few politicians who tried to rein in the military, like Inukai Tsuyoshi, and too many stood by when those people were outright killed. They later paid the price for that mistake in the war, of course.

>> No.11621659

>>11621620
Considering some of the heads of the military wanted to perform a coup when the Emperor announced that he was going to surrender, even after both atomic bombs and the Russian attack on Manchuria, I don't really feel like America didn't win when those same militarists suffered more than the monarchy.

>>11621619
I remember reading somewhere that the Japanese never intended to go to war; they wanted to send a message of "don't fuck with our holdings" when they attacked Pearl Harbor. There was a captain of a ship, I don't remember who, that wanted to keep pressing the attack to hit American fuel depots and repair docks, but the order was given to pat themselves on the back and withdraw.

Of course, the Japanese military leaders thought they were dealing with a whole different kind of culture, and when the Americans declared war, they never really dropped the attitude that they would eventually wear down American morale enough to leave them alone. Anyone realistic could have seen from the beginning that Japan simply didn't have the resources to take the American navy in a full-on war. Even up to the preparations for an invasion of Kyushu, their goal was to scare the Americans off with "Japanese spirit."

This is just my speculation, but I think those Japanese military leaders were so bent on indoctrinating their colonies that they never considered just how hell-bent the US was on hitting them even harder after the first punch was thrown at Pearl Harbor.

>> No.11621660

>>11621649
I didn't say I was expecting them too. They could resorted to maybe something like what Vietnam did, why kamikaze?
>>11621651
It was their choice of strategy that bothers me.

>> No.11621666

>>11621644
10k fuel 11k ammo and 8k steel. 150~ buckets

>> No.11621668

>>11621649
I am not sure if it was the A-bomb tbh. Manchuria dealt a severe blow to the Japanese planners, and they know that there's no stopping USSR at all on land... and the Russian mentality is something that they actually understood for some reason.

>> No.11621669

>>11621658
At the end of the day, money rules everything, doesn't it? I guess that's the sad truth of the world, even when the language of the day is dominated by honor. Honestly, though, if they fought to the death I doubt they'd have any money left at the end.

>>11621659
They're not stupid enough to know they weren't going to get war, but they wanted a series of lightning victories and a negotiated peace while America had its hands tied with the European situation. Too bad they accidentally ended up launching Pearl Harbor before the declaration of war. We got mad about it, and have been mad ever since.

>>11621660
>They could resorted to maybe something like what Vietnam did, why kamikaze? It was their choice of strategy that bothers me.
It's like fighting to the death, but more effective. China fought a war and lost twenty million, but the government didn't fall, and eventually won the war.

>> No.11621670

>>11621668
And what would that be? I know very little of what went on with the Red Army during WW2.

>> No.11621673

>>11621668
This. It has since been debated whether the Soviets or the A-bomb who dealt the final blow on the Japanese to get them to surrender. Had the soviets have effective navy at that time, they could just waltz in and basically wipe-out Japanese strongholds on land given they have their battle-hardened troops combined with their highly superior mechanized forces.
>>11621660
Why kamikaze? Because the enlisted/draftees are expendable. Just like how some of us admirals treat their low-level ships and use them as sacrificial lambs on E-4.

>> No.11621677

>>11621673
The irony is they sent their most well trained pilots on kamikaze runs.

Another page from genius book that is the IJN leadership.

>> No.11621685

>>11621677
The most trained pilots were the ones on CarDiv1 and CarDiv2 though. Those died in midway.

>> No.11621686

>>11621673
If they weren't afraid of the American Navy, they weren't going to be afraid of the Soviet Navy. They couldn't land troops worth a shit. What the Soviet invasion did is kill their last hopes of a negotiated peace.

>>11621658
Rich people pull the strings wherever they go, but the militarists were the one who led both China and Japan to disaster. Even if they deliberately were allowed to rise, a some point in the twentieth century they lost control of the militarists, who didn't think of themselves as puppets in any sense (even if they were being used).

A situation where the government could not control the Army developed. The entire development of the Sino-Japanese War and WWII all comes back to this in the end.

>> No.11621687

>>11621677
Some of their most well trained pilots if I remember correctly volunteered to go on such missions. The rest were kept as instructors for the ones who were gonna do the kamikaze runs.

>> No.11621688

>>11621659
I read somewhere that the Japs' victory impressive naval victory in the Russo-Japanese war made them think they might be able to take the American and British navies.
>>11621669
I don't know much about China's part in the war but did they win mainly because of their own strenght?
>>11621673
There might have been better ways to expend them but like I said we would never know.
>>11621677
After losing all those pilots at Midway, they should have known better.

>> No.11621691

>>11621688
And frankly, the Japanese did not fight terribly on a tactical level. I mean... there's several actions where Japanese naval forces trumped the Americans. Japan did have a world-class fleet.

>> No.11621693

>>11621686
It's because they have been fighting the USN for a long time. However I don't think they knew how the Soviets fight especially on land. Then again, the Soviets had superior mechanized forces only good on land. The same cannot be said for their air and naval assets

>> No.11621694

>>11621688
>After losing all those pilots at Midway, they should have known better.

"I've lost so many, I have to keep pushing my best pilots! I can't turn back now. So close to victory."

This is what E-4 is all about, now you know the sufferings of the IJN Teitoku. The only difference is that when they pushed in red, they had no damecon.

>> No.11621695

>>11621693
The soviets had no true, period. They couldn't even make battleship grade cemented steel (Stalin's battleship project was an example) USSR had subs though, plenty of them, but no surface element truly capable of force projection in any meaningful sense.

>> No.11621696

>>11621677
>I don't know much about China's part in the war but did they win mainly because of their own strength?
No. But they didn't lose. The government did not collapse, even though China was suffering horrific losses the whole time. The Japanese leadership was planned to borrow a leaf from their tactical handbook and fight guerrilla warfare for years, until the American public got tired of trying to occupy Japan.

>>11621677
They were going to run out of planes and fuel anyway. They were desperate for a decisive victory which they wanted at near any cost, because they knew that if they didn't, in a year or two the whole Navy would run out of fuel and effectively case to exist. That's why they made such desperate, suicidal moves such as sending their entire remaining carrier force out as nothing more than decoys.

>> No.11621698

>>11621694
IJN cannot unto damacon. That's what doomed the Kongou and Hiei. The ships wouldn't have to sink if otherwise...

>> No.11621702

>>11621694
The admirals trying to break through E-4 with Hiei, Kongou, and four suicide ships truly have the Japanese spirit.

>> No.11621717

>>11621691
Japs have always struck me as people good at technical stuff but rather inflexible while Americans of that time were extremely resourceful. The moment the Americans learned how the Japs worked they pratically won.
>>11621696
>The Japanese leadership was planned to borrow a leaf from their tactical handbook and fight guerrilla warfare for years, until the American public got tired of trying to occupy Japan.
Exactly, why didn't they try that?
>>11621698
Maybe during that time ships sank regardless of what damage they had before the battle.
>>11621702
To the list they go! The game is called Kantai Collection damn it. For the next event devs should add some Abyss ship that fires a weak splash attack that in the first nodes.

>> No.11621721

>>11621717
You should read up about the Japanese and the kind of people that they put in the position of damage control coordination. it's really eye boggling just how the IJN lose their ships. I think Hiei's engine room was perfectly fine when they pumped water into her just to sink her...

>> No.11621725

>>11621717
>Exactly, why didn't they try that?
Because you can only really fight guerrilla warfare on home soil, and they really didn't want it to reach that point. If you can trade an airplane for a destroyer that's a pretty good deal, from a tactical perspective.

>For the next event devs should add some Abyss ship that fires a weak splash attack that in the first nodes.
They're called "aircraft carriers."

>> No.11621728

>>11621717
They could program the Abyssal ships/planes to target the most important ships, the capital ships in the fleet just like what happened in Operation Ten-Go wherein the escorting ships were mostly ignored and most attacks were concentrated on the Yamato.

>> No.11621730

Sub guy, checking in again. first somewhat notable drop. B grade finish at boss, Hosho. I think Hosho will drop on all points over here. I've gotten multiple Kagero from node I btw.

>> No.11621732 [DELETED] 

>>11621721
The Japanese truly did suck at damage control. The loss of Taihou and Shinano (no doubt she'll the first shipgirl to have a negative luck score) can be almost completely to sheer technical incompetence.

>> No.11621734

>>11621721
Reminds me of something similar happening to Taiho. Speaking of Taiho, she should be the next event's prize right?
>>11621725
I was thinking more like something that fires accurate but weak splash shots in the shelling phase, one that deal no damaged to modernized ships but chips off the hp of throw aways. Maybe put three of those in the first two nodes.

>> No.11621735

>>11621721
The Japanese truly did suck at damage control. The loss of Taihou and Shinano (no doubt she'll be the first shipgirl to have a negative luck score) can be ascribed almost completely to sheer technical incompetence.

>> No.11621739

>>11621734
Assuming the Abyssal fleet represents the USN, I don't think the USN used splash shots or something like that. Why would they even bother in the first place when they have accurate fire controls. Besides, it's not like ships are spaced like they're only a few meters apart so splash damage is highly unlikely.

>> No.11621741

>>11621728
That's too much anon, I have a feeling that if that happened admirals would hide their kanmusu and use throwaways even more. Events should be something that challenges that strongest ships of an admiral's fleet.

>> No.11621745

>>11621734
>I was thinking more like something that fires accurate but weak splash shots in the shelling phase, one that deal no damaged to modernized ships but chips off the hp of throw aways. Maybe put three of those in the first two nodes.
I'm still pretty sure that an aircraft carrier full of red planes does everything you want it to.

>> No.11621747

>>11621741
If they kept using more throwaways then they'll have more difficulty clearing an event unless RNG favors them. Besides the trauma of expending one fleet of throwaways at a time may burden them, unless they're cold-hearted.

>> No.11621754

>>11621739
It doesn't have to be too realistic anon, how about mines? Mines that kill off unmodernized ships, I just want something that prevent the use of throwaways.
>>11621745
You know what I mean, it was just an example of how they could do it. In the end just don't want throwaways to be a legitimate way to clear events maps.
>>11621747
But enemies focusing on our strongest ships while we're unable to do the same thing is quite scary. And those who have used some throwaways have already taken the first step, do you think only a few of them would not resort to using a full fleet?

>> No.11621755

>>11621754
>You know what I mean
No, I unironically, genuinely, actually believe that aircraft carriers with bombers on them will do a good job of putting a whole lot of damage on level one ships while not doing anything to your level 90 Nagato. I don't see what your problem with this is.

>I just want something that prevent the use of throwaways.
I understand the sentiment but there's a war on. Tactics are tactics.

>And those who have used some throwaways have already taken the first step, do you think only a few of them would not resort to using a full fleet?
Yeah, it's completely retarded. Your whole fleet will sink before it gets to the boss and when you do get there you'll do no damage.

>> No.11621765

>>11621754
Why not give the boss an exp bar? Let it level up off ship kills. For the people that don't let any of their daughters sink, it shouldn't affect them.

>> No.11621771

>>11621765

Imagine if it was retroactive and some scumbag of a Teitoku sacrificed hundreds of his daughters.

Nightmare mode has been achieved for that faggot.

>> No.11621777

>>11621755
Well I guess then I want them to put a lot of aircraft carriers with bombers the next time they make a map like E-4. Well yeah tactics are tactics but won't you be more satisfied if it was your main fleet that won it for you.
>Yeah, it's completely retarded. Your whole fleet will sink before it gets to the boss and when you do get there you'll do no damage.
Didn't stop some people from clearing E-4 with just throwaways though.

>> No.11621780

>>11621765
Reminds me of a tonberry in FF. To be fair, let's implement some sort of reset mode to give these wayward soles a second chance.

>> No.11621781

>>11621765
I actually kind of like this, good thinking anon.

>> No.11621790 [DELETED] 

>>11621777
What did it take him, ten thousand sorties? It can't possibly have been easier than doing it the normal way. If he wants to do a retarded challenge run and clear Ironbottom Sound by filling it with so much iron that you can across it you might as well let him.

>> No.11621791

Where can I level up my lvl 6 sub?

>> No.11621795

>>11621777
What did it take him, ten thousand sorties? It can't possibly have been easier than doing it the normal way. If he wants to do a retarded challenge run and clear Ironbottom Sound by filling it with so much iron that people can walk across it, you might as well let him.

>> No.11621800

Since when the thread is all about lynching people using throwaway ships ? The dev wanted a night battle event, knewing any lvl1 DD/CL/CA can perform almost half as well as any lv99 of the same class.

>> No.11621801

>>11621791
What maps have you unlocked? 2-3 is usually a good choice if you have more than 1.

>> No.11621805

>>11621791
the same way you level up your new rare destroyer

>> No.11621806

>>11621801
2-3. But I only have one Sub though

>> No.11621810

>>11621806
1-1 is acutally very fast leveling, if you take your ships and go to 2-2 you can actually fight the NE node without any other ships getting hit except the sub, its a great way to train your other ships and the sub at the same time.

>> No.11621811

>>11621805
What a coincidence. I just got Shimakaze today. Now I have Yuudachi-poi, Shigure, Shimakaze, Hibiki as my S-Destroyer. Now what left is Yukikaze.

>> No.11621812

>>11621754
You can use your main fleet at E-5 with your Nagatos and Yamato using the middle route.
Also if you they had put in carrier instead of CA/CL, most people wouldnt even use throwaway. You cant have it both way.

It is a legit tactic, plus they are either scrapped or used as modernization materials. The devs actually gave them a chance to shine before they are scrapped. Their sacrifice would not be forgotten.

>> No.11621813

Where's the best place to grind? I'm stuck at 2-4 and one of the tips on wiki to bruteforce it is to have average remodelled lvl30 ships

>> No.11621814

>>11621800
Even though I wouldn't do it personally, I don't have a huge problem with people using throwaway ships. It just feels like there should be more downside to such a strategy.

>> No.11621815

>>11621812
Using throwaways is a morally bankrupt tactic. The devs should punish you villains as thoroughly as possible.

>> No.11621816

>>11621813
2-3. Bonus if you have more than 2 subs. Just subs all day. Do it you sub-slaving scum

>> No.11621820

>>11621814
>>11621815
Here's the downside, burning in hell and all.
The victory feels less sweet, and you are less proud of it.
The very fact lots of people dislike this technique is what makes it good for the people not using it, and bad for the people using it - the first one gain a greater pride out of their wins, and the second one a lesser.

I'm not sure there's a need to fuck them with a node OSing any ship under LvXX.

>> No.11621828

>>11621815
Yeah, well, you grind up your ships into ship powder which you sprinkle on your other ships to make them stronger.

Real admirals get a hundred ships and don't do events because they have no room.

>> No.11621830

>>11621816
I wonder if it's efficient to keep going to 2-4 to clear one node then retreat, I kinda don't expect it to be efficient at all though. Opinion?

>> No.11621831

>>11621795
I only saw screenshots so I don't know how many times he did it but from how people were talking about it, it seemed easier. Don't you think it kind of decreases the quality of the event?
>>11621812
>Their sacrifice would not be forgotten.
The prize of their sacrifice has a pink lock so yeah their sacrifice would be remembered but they themselves not.
>>11621820
I agree with the first part, very proud of my Kongou.
But I still think throwaways shouldn't be a thing.
>>11621830
If you cycle through different ships, why not? It's efficient for resources but not for fatigue.

>> No.11621832

>>11621830
2-4-1 is the best place to grind until 3-2 is unlocked.
You can always do the full 2-2map since the boss node does drop stuff like Kaga and Souryou to complement Akagi.

>> No.11621834

>>11621830
That is the standard grinding strategy. If you can flagship something that also mvp's like a CV/L(stack all your rare planes on it) or a BB, they won't gain any fatigue.

For the rest of your ships. you get two sorties with each team before orange face, so running 2 or 3 teams can really make leveling your flagship/mvp very fast while slowly leveling a large group of other ships.

>> No.11621835

>>11621831
>>11621832
Alright, now that I know that I'll be ready to bruteforce 2-4 soon enough, thanks

>> No.11621836

Do you think they have plans to include escort carriers?

>> No.11621837
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>>11621831
>they themselves not.
Dont kid yourself, you wouldnt even use these ships in the first place. Into the incinerator they go.

>> No.11621843

>>11621837
True, I was just saying that the ships themselves won't be remembered but their sacrifice will be. I guess I did sound a bit hostile there, sorry about that. And if those are your ships, stop it, it's your main fleet's time to shine.

>> No.11621849

>>11621837
aren't people usually using DDs for that

>> No.11621865

>>11621849
anything you have works really, they are just there to soak the damage up

>> No.11621867

So I still haven't beaten E-5 and was planning to do it this weekend, but now that it's being extended, I don't know what to do. Should I just wait until they add that new ship and then go for it?

>> No.11621872

>>11621867
Logically yeah, unless you want musashi in a hurry.

>> No.11621873

>>11621849
2x20.3 hit harder than 2x12.7

>> No.11621883

>>11621867
I'm in the same situation and I still plan to do it this weekend, since trying over two weekends means more time. Of course, if what you lack is resource, wait another week.
About the new ship, she'll be farmable with subs, I think.

>> No.11621887
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11621887

Always remember to hide your personal stuff from your office te-toku.

>> No.11621899

I just tried out support fleet, and it feels really underwhelming. They all missed at the boss node, doing exactly 0 damage. Do I need to sparkle the support fleet as well or something?

>> No.11621907

>>11621887
Translate it Weeaboo!

>> No.11621909

>>11621907
Trying too hard to fit in, child.

>> No.11621912

>>11621909
Shut up grandpa! You cannot control my life!

>> No.11621915

Is the extension even confirmed? I'd like to do E-5 later if so but if it's up in the air I'd rather gamble with 20k resources than risk it not happening.

>> No.11621923

>>11621915
Oh I don't know, maybe they fucking lied when they posted an official announcement on their fucking twitter?

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11621939

>>11621907
It's obviously Kaga's secret stash of personal videos.

>> No.11621943
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>>11621939
Stop being so overtly sexual Kaga.

>> No.11621944
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11621944

Mic check?

>> No.11621949

>>11621944
Kirishima Kai 2 confirmed.

>> No.11621950

>>11621944
I'm disappointed if it's not Haruna, haven't leveled Kirishima.

>> No.11621952

>>11621949
>>11621950
Where is my Shiranui Kai?

>> No.11621955

>>11621949
No Ayanami Kai?

>> No.11621956

I don't know what to think

I ran this 2 Kongou 2 DD 2 CL(t) setup for E-2 every single time and whenever I beat the pre-boss node it sent me to the boss without failure

For these last 5 days I've been trying to beat it while taking it easy so my resources didn't take much of a hit

But this last run just after I had perfect battles all the way to the boss node

It sent me north

In this very run I was probably going to sink the boss and beat E-2

It sent me north

It never did that before

ALL the runs I did before it sent me to the boss without failure

I don't know how to feel about this.

>> No.11621960

>>11621956
How are you not beating it up straight? 2.9%/hour regen is fucking crazy
Doing the dialog screen exploit?

>> No.11621963

>>11621960

E-2 doesn't regen and I'm a fairly new admiral.

>> No.11621966

>>11621963
I saw 2kongou so I thought it was E-5
My bad.

>> No.11621967

Anyone used a sub on their E-4 team? I'm going in with 50k resources and 600 buckets, but I have no clue what I should put in my team other than 2 Kongou-class and 2 CAs for the final kill.

>> No.11621972

>>11621967
DDs are god tier.

>> No.11621974

>>11621967
Sub is deadweight on E4 considering you cant torpedo the boss.
Considering you have so much resources, just go with 2kongou+2nagato+yamato+ise with 6sanshiki
Easy kill.

>> No.11621977

>>11621974
Some of that is reserved for E-5.

>> No.11621978
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11621978

Finally done with E-4
Surprisingly it only took me about 3 hours (and 3 damage controls)
Welp, don't stand a chance for E-5 anyway so I think I can rest in peace now

>> No.11621983

>>11621967
I did. I ran with BB SS CA CA CA BB as my team. Didn't need support and finished off the boss in 24 runs.

>> No.11621987

>>11621978
How much resource did it cost you? Or how many tries in total?

>> No.11621986

>>11621983
Sparkles?

>> No.11621988

>>11621986
yea.

>> No.11621991
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11621991

Bust those destroyers.

>> No.11621993

>>11621974
Question. I've read in the wiki that you'll be sent from B to G node if you have 3+ BBs in your fleet.

In that case, won't putting 2 Kongou and 2 Yamato stops you from going to the boss? If this isn't true, then I'll bring my Nagato and Mutsu to boss fight, since I can't get a complete kill at all as of now.

>> No.11621994

>>11621991
Why is Ooi dressing up as Luigi?

>> No.11621996

Fuck, I can't seem to get my API link on firefox now. Used to be able to get it from right clicking -> Inspect Element but this doesn't work anymore.

>> No.11621997

>>11621993
They keyword is 2kongou.
It overrides 3+ BBs.

>> No.11621999

>>11621987
Half-asleep and didn't record so I can only give an approximate number
Fuel: about 7000
Ammo: about 6000
Steel: about 5500
Bucket: 58
Took me about ~35 runs(?)

>> No.11622006

>>11621978
Can I ask about your equip? My fleet is around yours, but I have been trying to finish off the boss to no avail at all.

>> No.11622016

>>11621997
I see. Thank you so much, kind teitoku. I'll try them when I'm desperate enough.

>> No.11622017
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11622017

Just finished E-3,took me longer than expected because of RNG trolling.
Now to lvl my other CA apart from Maya and gather resources again.

>> No.11622024

Chrome doesn't work as well... could it be that they fixed the exploit? Can someone else try to get their API link to see if Inspect Element still works or if it's not only me?

>> No.11622027

>>11622006
CLT: 2x15.5cm Triple Cannon, Midget Sub
DD: 2x10cm Twin High-Angle Cannon, Turbine
CA: 2x15.5cm Triple Cannon, Sanshiki, Damage Control
BB: 2x46cm Triple Cannon, Sanshiki, Damage Control

>> No.11622029

Never mind, found it. Thank god for Adblock.

>> No.11622033

>>11622027
Got it, thanks. I only have one 46cm, so I guess I'll try to make do with 41cm.

Congrats on clearing E4.

>> No.11622046

how do you guys sparkle your ships

i tried bringing along a sub to 1-1 but she keeps torpedoeing and stealing mvp

>> No.11622047

>>11622046
DD's.

>> No.11622048

>>11622046
Try not to level your sparkle sub past lvl10. Outside of event, you hardly need a sparkle fleet anyway.
Also you can always send in damaged ship alone and then bucket them after sparkle.

>> No.11622101

>>11622046
main ship + 3 junk is the safest in 1-1 to avoid getting hit.

>> No.11622107

>>11622101
I've ran with only 1 escort and you take minor chip damage at most which hardly matters since it's either chip or medium/heavy damage in night battle events.

>> No.11622114

How to lower E-4 map gauge by using low lvl ships?

>> No.11622121

>>11622114
By using low level ships and never turning back.

>> No.11622122

>>11622114
...By using low lvl ships?

>> No.11622125
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11622125

Don't forget about Cacao.

>> No.11622126

>>11622114
Here's a thought.

No.

>> No.11622129

>>11622114
How do you beat E3 and still ask such silly question
Read the wiki and git gud

>> No.11622165
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11622165

Suddenly, side revisions.

>> No.11622168

>>11622114
2 kongo, 1 flag, 1 last, 4 level 1 ships in between with 2 main guns each

>> No.11622170

>>11621887
Hibiki: "As expected, it's a bit embarassing..." (damage line)
Inazuma: "Hauauauau" (damage line)
Ikazuchi: "Admiral, I'm here, so..." (secretary line variation)
Akatsuki: Something about how only a completely shameless man would let a lady see something like that, followed by her "I won't forgive something like that!" damage line.

>> No.11622176

>>11622170
TV: ah<3 ah <3 ah< ahn <3 its ok, shoot it, shoot it inside!

>> No.11622177

T-level: 68 completed the 2 Sub Composition Quest using I-8 and I-19
Submarines hate me.

>> No.11622179

>>11622168
Thanks,will try once finish replenishing resources
>>11622129
I actually beat E-3 by CA, CVx2, DD lvl 1 ,BBV and BB
Took me about 6-7 hours though

>> No.11622180

Those that beat E5 with no damecons, how safe is it to continue into night battle?

>> No.11622182

>>11622180
100% safe
Just dont bring red ship into new node. Night battle is not counted as new node. Anyone that want to challenge this view, please share fact and proof.

>> No.11622184

>>11622180
as long as you ddint walk into the day battle with reds, and got red in the day battle, they WONT SINK.

>> No.11622185

>>11622177
Try 330-30-430-30

>> No.11622186

>>11622180
Very safe unless you have more than 2 ships in red at the end of day battle. But even then the reason for not pursuing night is because it's will just waste ammo since the red ships will do nothing anyway.

>> No.11622203

Is it feasible to farm -gumo DDs in E-1? They could be dropped there, right?

>> No.11622218

>>11622203
No.

>> No.11622225

>>11622218
So I'm misinformed? Damn.

>> No.11622235

>>11622225
They can be dropped there, it's just not as efficient as other drops for them. Akigumo comes from all drops of 5-2 and Makigumo has a higher chance of dropping from 2-3 Boss node.

>> No.11622240

>>11622235
So E1 is not worth farming for DD's?

>> No.11622256
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11622256

I bragged and blogged earlier, now yesterday, about my favorite girl Hiei taking me to the boss every time. Anons here tried to warn me I was getting ahead of myself when I predicted I would be done early.

Well, I eventually ran out of resources. I scrapped spare weapons and girls as I got them, but it wasn't enough. So I started putting together sacrificial fleets to sit on the dialogue screen. Since then, collecting resource expeditions has equated to 4-5 girls dying each time. The flagship then sits at base, damaged and hungry, since I can't afford it to maintain her right now. Send out new expeditions, swap out to a new high level flagship, send out the next suicide team, repeat.

This last batch I sent to die included some girls I had locked for the new quests. This last batch also included a Hiei. She helps me come to the very late realization that I regret everything. Long story short, don't sacrifice ships. It's the worst thing ever.

I'm going to be sending my main fleet in 8 minutes. I've been thinking on it the past 40 minutes, but I haven't decided if I will allow retreat for this sortie, or if this will be my last run for this event. Or if I'll sit on the boss overnight (if they reach it) and let this nightmare consume tomorrow as well.

>> No.11622261

>>11622256

You are so bad at this game

>> No.11622262

>>11622256
4chan is not your blog. Considering all of the murder you're guilty of, I recommend a priest instead.

>> No.11622263

>>11622256
It's your own damn fault for being stupid and/or not putting damecon on your Kongou-class.

I'm running kamikaze operations in between regular runs to clear out all the fodder from sparkle runs and actual event map clears and shit's safe as it can get if you aren't retarded and are paying attention.

>> No.11622264

>>11622256
Serves you right faggot

>> No.11622267

>>11622256
Please commit sudoku

>> No.11622268

>>11622256
how did you fuck up that badly?

>> No.11622270

>>11622256
I'm sorry, but there's only one thing I can say

I told you so

>> No.11622274

>>11622256
So how was her condition before sinking? Red or orange?

>> No.11622275

>>11622256
sitting on the boss no longer works. i sat on the boss for 20 hours over night (As i had work+school today). Once i got home, i started the battle, bar was at 0. All was good. But after the sortie back at the menu, the bar was at 50%.
Was looking forward to a do or die push too as i had 8k of fuel and ammo.

>> No.11622282

>>11622275
Based Kancolle devs fixing bug.
I really cant believe there are still people rushing E4 and E5 when it is extended.

>> No.11622287

>>11622282
It's just desperate hope. Once you get her down to a certain threshold, say half the bar, you don't want to "waste" it and have it regen back to full, and end up throwing ships and resources at it to try and eke out a quick victory. It works if you're lucky enough to finish before you run out of resources, and the blogging from those who did that and succeeded makes all those who have yet to clear it get itchy to try all sorts of methods to do it and just get the damn map over and done with.

>> No.11622288

>>11622256
I was like you, I got the bar down and I couldn't beat her, and I ended up trying the sacrifical DD thing and naturally I failed.

4 days later I tried again and what do you know, I finished E-4 in 4 hours. You're a bad teitoku, but sadly so am I.

>> No.11622284

Those of you trying to cheese should not be allowed to clear the event.

>> No.11622285

>>11622282
Not rushing, once you enter you just can't stop until she goes down for good.

>> No.11622289

>>11622282
>rushing E4 and E5 when it is extended.

Well, once you start you're pretty much committed. When you look at it, the moment she regenerates you're already wasting resources.

>> No.11622291

Regenerating bar is such an evil idea.

>> No.11622293

>>11622282
You can't call it rushing when regen is a big fuck you to all the resources you've spent getting there. But I agree the extension should help the people who haven't started E4/5 yet in thinking twice before committing 6-50 hours.

>> No.11622295

>>11622291
Actually, it's giving the Abyss ships a fighting chance for once.
You can repair your ships endlessly, but when they sink they are just replaced.

If you use sacrificial ships you've already failed.

>> No.11622301

Who'll be new reward after event extension? I'm thinking Taihou, since she's been announced long ago. Another Agano-class is also possible.

>> No.11622304

>>11622301
Please not Taihou, I want to do other things next week.

>> No.11622309

>>11622293
E5 gives 5hours
E3 gives you roughly 7hours is it?
That is more than enough time to do exp9/13 to get your fuel back up for a few more runs.

>> No.11622312

>>11622304
fucking casual

>> No.11622319

>>11622312
Ooh, we got a badass newfag here.

>> No.11622321

>>11622312
I'm probably more neet than you, I only go out to buy food. By other things I meant git gud at drawing, programming and writing. There's still that Tenko Project I plan to work on and my improvement dramatically slowed down since I decided to try out Kancolle. Blog post sorry but please not Taihou, I feel like I would really want that ship.

>> No.11622324

>>11622321
What if Taihou looks like shit?

>> No.11622326

>>11622324
Fumikane always delivers.

>> No.11622327

>>11622324
The ship's history interests me, I think she'll still grow on me like Yuudachi did.

>> No.11622328

>>11622301
I bet it is going to be a sub. I-401.
This whole fucking event is a sub event.
Subs dropping everywhere at E1, E3, E4 and E5.
I just want my agano dammit.

>> No.11622331

>>11622328
Well considering the popularity of that Arpeggio anime, it's possible. I hope they also add another Yuubari-like ship if that's the case else pvp might become a real pain.

>> No.11622332

>>11622328
Drawn by Shibafu.

>> No.11622338

>>11622332
Please no.

>> No.11622339

>>11622328
I wouldn't mind the I-400 series. But I'd prefer if they would not be added as event ships...

>> No.11622340

>>11622332
Would like another ship with no nose.

>> No.11622354

Is there a JP wiki or does anyone know where the best drop rate for BBs are? I know they can drop all over world 2 but I'm unsure if its better to try to clear 2-3 or farm 2-4-1.

I've wasted thousands of steel and ending up crafting heavy cruisers everytime, so im looking for alternatives.

>> No.11622357

>>11622354
>Is there a JP wiki

Come on, at least look at the fucking OP.

>> No.11622358

>>11622354
>Japanese Wikis
>http://www56.atwiki.jp/kancolle/
>http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/
At the top of the thread, what BBs are you looking for? Everyone except the Nagato class are pretty common beyond world 2.

>> No.11622359

>>11622354
You can check out http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/ .
Just to let you know, none of the wikis have actual statistics on how often they drop.

The English one also has World2 partially done with 2-4 being fully ported over from the jp wikis.

>> No.11622364

>>11622354
Farm E-1 and E-2.
If you have 2-4 unlocked you can finish E-2.

>> No.11622367

>>11622364
Why the fuck are people suggesting to farm E-1 and E-2 or even event maps unless it's for the rare ships? Even then, you shouldn't even be farming E-1 and E-2 since it's just a waste of time and resource.

>> No.11622370

>>11622367
They're just trolls like the people saying you can't sink on orange

>> No.11622375

>>11622370
You can't sink on orange. Unless someone provides video proof somewhere, this remains the accepted truth.

>> No.11622376

>>11622375
>>11622370
I'm better safe than sorry and I don't want to be the one to test it out.

>> No.11622379

>>11622370
That belief helped me finish E-5 though. And since nothing happened to prove me wrong I have no reason to doubt it yet.

>> No.11622381
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11622381

>>11622376
50k admirals tested this theory out and cleared E-5. I am also doing it with my event sub. Even with green T-cross, once she is at 1hp everyone magically started to miss her.

>> No.11622392

>>11622376
would 300 ships sinking in event maps convince you?
since that's what i did and none of them sank from moderate damage.

>> No.11622410

See, no one can prove otherwise but there are a few TROLLS saying it sinks. When asked for evidence, they totally ignore the post and either disappear or just insists it happens. Not even a picture of the ship's sunk status.

>> No.11622424

>>11622410
It is just kancolle devs trying to sell all their damage control to these gullible fools.

>> No.11622426

Ju 87C Kai is added permanently right?
The quest(s) for that will not disappear after the event?

>> No.11622435

>>11622426
They're removing it after the 27th, 9:00.

>> No.11622437

Are turbnines super hard to craft or what? just after getting scrap 14/15 times with 100/300/250 with sub as flagship

>> No.11622439
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11622439

>>11622435
I wish I thought about cheesing it with subs earlier on.

>> No.11622440

>>11622435
Really? That's dumb.

>> No.11622442

>>11622439
With support fleet?

>> No.11622444

>>11622439
Can you S rank it consistenly?
I dont see how it is more cost efficient compare to E3 if you need to use support fleet and still cant get S rank consistenly.

>> No.11622445

>>11622442
With nothing

>> No.11622446

>>11622444
No, you can't S rank it with subs i think, and I didn't use support, just cut ins at night and pray it hits the boss

>> No.11622451

>>11622446
That is sad to know.
Guess I will still need to farm E3 until I exhausted all my bauxite and then farm E5 with subs hoping for lucky A rank drop. E5 isnt that scary that you need to cheese his health down with subs.

>> No.11622453

>>11622437
7% craft rate.

>> No.11622454

>>11622451
Even with the boss at 132, the rank was B, haha. Maybe sinking the two hime might actually get me a A now that I think about it.

>> No.11622456

>>11622453
Ah alright, that sucks my submarines get hit so damn often and now i am out of kits.

>> No.11622458

>>11622456
Turbines are lies, they are placebo to make you feel better.(Don't use them)

>> No.11622459

>>11622437
Try 100/10/200/10 with a BB, worked for me.

>> No.11622460

God, night battle is such a horribly-designed mechanic. Levels don't matter and the outcome is even more luck-based than a normal battle due to bullshit like cut-ins.

>> No.11622466

>>11622460
I think the developers wants the newer players to be able to participate too, unlike the yamato nightmare where you need lv70s up

>> No.11622468

>>11622437
Why not just craft 46cm with BB?
4x46cm 1xboiler 1xturbine + tons of miscallenous ammo and yellow gun. I probably got all of these under 50crafts considering I have just started playing on October and do more plane craft for my daily since they are cheaper.

>> No.11622469

>>11622454
Of course, you suppose to know these shit by now. Sink 4 and you'll get an A.

>> No.11622474

>>11622468
What makes you think that everyone needs a 46cm Octoberfag?

>> No.11622475

>>11622474
Because you can never have enough 46cm.
Each BB need 2, and you need 8 for maximum support fleet damage. Better than wasting resources on penguin.

>> No.11622477 [DELETED] 

>>11622475
So what applies to you should also apply to everyone else?

Cool. So if your mom was a slut, does that makes everyone's mom a slut because we can't have enough sluts?

>> No.11622482

>>11622456
i agree with >>11622468
craft 100/300/250/10 with BB.

>> No.11622483

>>11622468
>>11622482
Alright, thanks teitokus

>> No.11622484

>>11622466

I'm a new player and E-2 took me a week of nightmarish RNG bullshit.

Started E-3 today and bar is 50% down after like 5 tries.

Anyways, is it worth it to put green guns in the last carrier slot?

>> No.11622487

>>11622435
Well fuck.
Not only I have to clear E4, I also need to do both 40hour and 80hour expeditions for getting that rare plane.

>> No.11622493

>>11622435
Source for this?

>> No.11622495

>>11622484
No.

>>11622487
Do you really believe that?

>> No.11622502

>>11622484
E-3 is easier than 2

>> No.11622504

>>11622495
I wasn't.
Then it hit me that would be the date of ending of the event if they extend it for a week.

English wiki doesn't say shit, apart from a single comment.

>> No.11622513
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11622513

Fresh from Futaba.

>> No.11622514

>>11622513
rip

>> No.11622515

>>11622513
Another KTKM-sama bites the dust, RIP.

>> No.11622516

>>11622513
Jesus what's with this event and KTKM?

>> No.11622517

>>11622513
do the nips not know how to take screenshots?

>> No.11622519

>>11622493
>>11622495
I'm not kidding, it's on the Twitter.

>> No.11622520

Once I've unlocked 2-2, should I level my ships on 2-2 or keep doing 2-1?

Mind you, I don't feel like I'm overpowered for 2-1 yet.

>> No.11622524

>>11622519
Do you have the text of the tweet? I scrolled a little but didn't see anything mentioning that.

>> No.11622542

>>11622524
http://twilog.org/KanColle_STAFF/search?word=11%2F27&ao=a
twilog is really great for situations like this. I don't know if any of these are the tweet but one of them could be.

>> No.11622545

How did you guys clear expedition 25? I sent in Bep+shimakaze+nachi+kako (2DD 2CA) as per the wiki but it failed after waiting for 40 hours.

>> No.11622560

>>11622545
flagship lvl 25?

>> No.11622566

>>11622524
Not right now, but from my memory, it's in this comment section or something where they replied to someone asking about the quest. It's from the same tweet after the extension.

I don't use twitter outside of this, so my description of where I saw it might be pretty shit.

>> No.11622567

>>11622560
Yeap I put Bep as my flag, lvl 73. As the wiki states 4 ships so I did just that. Maybe I actually need 6? (add 2 random extra DDs?)

I too am worried that Ju 87C Kai will be gone after this.

>> No.11622569

>>11622542
Still don't see anything about the expedition quest here. I really hope you're not kidding about this. I haven't done anything past expedition 17 and I'd hate to lose out on exclusive things.

>> No.11622573
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11622573

>>11622567
Nope
4 is enough according to this chart.
Did you forget to fuel them?

>> No.11622576

>>11622573
I am sure I did as it was a 40hour expedition. It sucks to waste time with this during the event. Gonna try again.

>> No.11622582

>>11622569
I am totally unrelated. I just typed 11/27 into twilog to provide you guys with a possible location of the tweet. I've got just as much interest in this validity of this information as you.
>>11622576
I mean there's no issue with Bep not being recognized as a DD or something stupid, right?

>> No.11622585

>>11622582
Is there an issue with Bep? I will replace her with Yukikaze lvl 55 for round. It will be stupid if she's not considered as a DD after lvl 70 remodel

>> No.11622587
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11622587

>>11621967 here. E-4 complete. That was much, much easier than I thought. And to think that at the start of the event I was complaining bitterly about Hachi being placed as E-4's trophy.

Ice cream for the winners... and incense for the dead. Tomorrow we crush E-5.

>> No.11622588

>>11622585
Again, I have no idea, I'm just spit balling.

>> No.11622592

>>11622582
>>11622585
Who the fuck is Bep?

>> No.11622594

>>11622592
The Russian.

>> No.11622596

>>11622594
That's Verny, or Верный.

>> No.11622609

>>11622596
It's Bep.

If you want to speak your dirty slavspeak, go to dvach. Or /int/.

>> No.11622610

>>11622609
ヴェールヌイ
It's Verny.

>> No.11622612

>>11622592
>>11622594
>>11622596
>>11622609
>>11622610
It's Hibiki fucktards.

>> No.11622619

Has anyone recently froze boss health? It looks like I might need to use this trick over the weekend.

>> No.11622622

>>11622619
Doesn't work anymore

>> No.11622623

>>11622619
They might have fixed it >>11622275

>> No.11622625

>>11622612
Her name changes when she remodels dumbfuck.

>> No.11622627

>>11622622
>>11622623
Well shit, I guess I'll just postpone my engagement date maybe move it forward if I'm free Saturday. Thanks.

>> No.11622630

>>11622625
Does your first name change when you get older?
I didn't think so.

>> No.11622646

>>11622630
It does if you get adopted by someone else and they decide to legally change your name for you.

>> No.11622649

>>11622566
I don't see the tweet, and I think it would be quite strange for them to both

a) not mention it officially, instead only as a tweet to one person which not everyone might see
b) prevent newer players who got the subs later in the event from completing the expedition

AFAIK there has never been a quest that got removed

>> No.11622661
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11622661

I keep getting sent to this route.
Expending 360/440 each sortie is not cool. Is there a composition that guarantee a straight line or is this just my RNG luck.

>> No.11622667

>>11622661
Looks like the compass girls really hate you, what fleet are you using?

>> No.11622670

>>11622667
bb 2clt 2cv 1cvl
Just got sent south again after the submarine node

>> No.11622682
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11622682

kill her with kindness?

>> No.11622693
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11622693

I can't believe this is happening. I've been at E4 for 72 hours on and off, it's almost unbelievable that I actually got through. Thank you, Kongou and Haruna.

Thank you Maya too for holding on with red hp in the last battle, I've lost 2 damecon on this map and I don't want to lose any more in preparation for E5.

>> No.11622696

>>11622649
Someone on the wiki said the event had been extended to the 27th. Given the multiple mentions of it on the twitter and various misinterpretations involving it here, I tend to think that might by the actual truth.

I'll ask some of my fluent friends later today.

>> No.11622697

I just want to complete my daily quest to sink 3 transport ships... compass chan sends me to the boss node in 2-2 every time.

I bet she's gonna send me to the non-boss nodes when I'm doing the next quest to defeat 5 boss nodes in world 2

>> No.11622700

>>11622696
Yes, the only things that are until the 27th are the event and the Nagato model. I haven't seen anything else with a deadline.

>> No.11622710

>>11622697
do 2-3 instead.
2-2 compass tends to go against you when completing transport ship quest.

>> No.11622712

>>11622667
>>11622670
Went to check wikiwiki.
http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%B7%E8%C0%EF%A1%AA%C5%B4%C4%EC%B3%A4%B6%AE%A4%F2%C8%B4%A4%B1%A4%C6%A1%AA#parao556
Apparently C->D/E is fucking random. That is some luck.
Also for people farming Hatsukaze, apparently she drops in node G. You can just rig your compass to node G if she is all you want.

>> No.11622732

>>11621617
>漢これ
First thing I thought of was "Chinese Collection", and not "Manly Collection". Goddamn grinding JLPT kanji is fucking with my mind.

>> No.11622745

I was majorly scared of E-5 since I've basically been relying on DDs for every night battle, but damn, they perform really well and this will be really easy as long as I get enough resources.

>> No.11622746

So did anyone test that 2BB 2DD 2CV(red planes) support expedition setup for E-5? I've seen it heavily discussed a thread or two ago.

Seems like a big resource drain.

>> No.11622753

>>11622746
It is the best support expedition for E-5
Guarantee a S-rank with it.

>> No.11622758
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11622758

So the new ship is a smaller ship compared to Musashi. I hope it's not another Agano class CL.

>> No.11622759

>>11622712
How do you actually rig it to hit G? I've went with a fleet without CAV, BAV or CVL/CV and it sent me straight down the south path without turning into G.

>> No.11622764

>>11622753

Any hidden clauses? Like "assuming all your ships make it into night battle with at most orange damage"?

>> No.11622775

>>11622764
E-5's boss node is special even though it starts in day-battle. You can't sink even though they are in red IF they enter the boss node(day battle) without heavy damage.

>> No.11622779

>>11622758
>smaller ship compared to Musashi
So, it could be anything but super-Yamato, H42/43/44 and Habakkuk?

>> No.11622781

>>11622779
inb4subdaughter.

>> No.11622782

>>11622759
>航巡(?)航戦(?)軽空母のいずれかを含む艦隊はDそれ以外はランダム?
Guess wikiwiki isnt too sure either. Go experiment more.

>> No.11622788

>>11622782
Having a SS seems to make you hit G node once in awhile. Still can't find a sure-fire rigging.

>> No.11622789

>>11622764
No hidden clause. With support fleet, they will usually take out 1 or 2 of the scrub mobs. Your BB will then take out the enemy BB. Going into the night battle with 2-3enemy alive is usually autowin provided you yourself have enough ships that can attack at night.

>> No.11622793

>>11622775

That doesn't make them fire during night phase, now does it.

>> No.11622797

>>11622793
It doesn't, but with the power of support expedition and you not entering the boss node with ships heavily damaged. You should be only left with the boss herself and 1 other if you're really unluckly for night battle.

Doesn't take much to infer this right? Quality here sure has sunk so much that every insight has to be spoonfed.

>> No.11622803

>>11622797

Reading comprehension sure did, too.

My initial statement was precisely a concern about firepower remaining for the night phase. Which you exactly rephrased without even realizing it's already been said.

>> No.11622815

>>11622803
Holy shit. Here, let me break it down for you, sire.

That expedition support fleet currently boasts the highest success rate because of how much damage it does to eradicate the enemy's fleet.

I've tried it a couple times and they've given me pretty a good impression. Why? It easily destroys those floating orb enemies. Most of the time, you're left with the boss and the two lackey, the lackeys are usually hit pretty hard by the cover fire.

Now tell me, assuming there are 3 enemies left and considering their AI tendencies and you have 6 ships that are either in orange, yellow or healthy status; how unlucky do you think you can get for the enemy to critically injure every single one of your ship to the point they can't continue with battle? The enemy AI usually works in a way they will randomly and repeatedly fire on a heavily damaged ship for no apparent reason.

>> No.11622824

>>11622815

Ah, ok, it escalated a bit out of proportion. I came in expecting something more headache-inducing than E-4 so I interpreted the support expedition stuff as "without support you have shit chance, even with every ship firing in the night phase".

As long as it works (for the horrendous cost it incurs) it's fine - and it seems, common-sense wise, to be sound.

>> No.11622833

>>11622824
The cost isn't really that horrible if you consider the overall. I tried it after I cleared E-5 since I wanted to see if it was farm-able, could easily turnover the loss with a few rare ships and a day of running expeditions/2-3/grind other ships while waiting.

Apologies about my replies to you as well, feeling a little shit after I just woke up.

>> No.11622849

>>11622824
>without support you have shit chance
E-5 is easy. Even without support, you can get A and S rank consistently. What support does is, it guarantee you the S-Rank ie killing the boss. You dont have to throw your ships at henderson-chan for 8hours because you cant sink her after depleting the gauge. In E-5, you can sink her the first chance you got by expending additional ~500ammos.

>> No.11622847

Sub guy on E7/E5 checking in.

It's been about 20 hours since I started, slept for 6 hours. 1 1/2 bar gone, and I must say that the subs rarely hit the boss, and you have to hope that they use a cut-in attack on the boss.

Sparkle tends to stay on 2/4 subs, and it's likely that 1 of them will be critted to orange.
Expect to spend 1 bucket per run or so. You are guaranteed to reach the boss if you can get through the first 2 nodes.

Only notable drops with B ranking has been Ooi and Hosho so far. You don't get any higher ranking than a B with you roll 4x subs.

>> No.11622858

>>11622849

I feel like it's less prone to compass trolling, too. I've been sent NE once in 10 runs so far.

>> No.11622867

>>11622849
>E-5 is easy.
Fuck you.

>> No.11622876

>>11622758
yamashiro kai ni

>> No.11622877

>>11622867
It is easier than E-4, but who am I to say, I finished E4 in 6 hours yet lost 50k in two different attempts of E-5.

>> No.11622879

>>11622867
E-5 is just slightly more difficult than E-3.
In E-3 you need to beat 3-4nodes without anyone going into red. Of course it is easier here since only the elite sub crit can bring anyone into red.
In E-5, you just need to beat 2nodes without anyone going into red. From my log, I only retreated 3times while I got sent to NE 7times. Seems like the compass is a bigger bitch compare to flagship BBs.

>> No.11622886

>>11622879

All my retreat-inducing attacks so far were flagship destroyer cutins. Damn those things hurt.

>> No.11622893

>>11622886
Anything that cuts-in with a torpedo is painful. I have never seen those dealing scratch damage below 10.

>> No.11622920

Is Kinugasa 2nd remodel maximum stats really as low according to wiki?

>> No.11622921

>>11622893

Even for BB cutiins on DDs? In E-4 my Yuudachi and Shigure regularly shrugged off Flagship BB cut-ins for around 5-8 damage.

>> No.11622923

>>11622920
Second remodels aren't suppose to give you a large stat boost anyway.

>> No.11622927

>>11622921
BBs don't cut in with a torpedo.

>> No.11622928

>>11622921
Torpedoes. Do you see BBs using torpedo cut-ins?

>Anything that cuts-in with a torpedo is painful

>> No.11622932

>>11622923
KTKM disagrees. That said, Kinugasa's 2nd remodel's mostly an art update.

>> No.11622935

>>11622927
>>11622928

Right. My bad.

Good point then. Lowest CA attack I've received was well over 10 damage, too - not instantly lethal though, especially on smaller targets; I'm pretty sure there's some ship class modifiers to this stuff, that's would be why CVs tend to eat crits so often.

>> No.11622939

>>11622932
And her art wasn't even bad before.

>> No.11622941

>>11622932
I don't know, I consider KTKM and Ooi's second remodel to be a first remodel of their torpedo cruiser class. But yeah, they generally don't give much boost to stats.

>> No.11622948

>>11622941
what about Isuzu's AA and ASW stat upgrade?

>> No.11622957

>>11622948
That one ties deeply to her historical data. Oh c'mon, I'm just stating that they generally shouldn't be providing large stat boost.

Do you really need for everything to be questioned?

>> No.11622987

Are there recipes that result in a more specific ship rather than just class(BB/CV)?

>> No.11622999

>>11622957
Not the guy, and that's not agaisnt you, but no question, no answer, no blogging, no image rules make the thread painful to read and to post in.

About Kai2s, I guess it depends on their status. Like, Verniy could have been an historical only remodel with minor increase, but it didn't. As for kinugasa or Kongou, I don't know of any major historical fact that justify a second remodel, and it's not even a stat-remodel.

My guess is, the way they pick up remodel and decide how they balance it is as random as 3-2.

>> No.11623000

>>11622987
No, all who claimed it just got lucky

>> No.11623012

>>11622999
I get the feeling it's because it's easier to get ahold of that artist. A lot of the new ships have been done by the same artist haven't they?

>> No.11623017

>>11622999
No one ever said no question/answers. It's just that the majority of questions asked here are those that can be easily answered by the Wikia, refering to OP and checking the jpwiki. People keep asking these same questions without referencing to previous posts or the wikis and thus makes people mad.

Blogging is just irritating when we see the same shit posted over and over, WE CAN'T CLEAR E-X BECAUSE RNG! Blog in a way that isn't so plebian and maybe we could get some entertainment out of it.

I can't say much about the image rule since there were a couple of trolls that got mad and started dumping waifu images.

>> No.11623021

>>11622858

Is this damn game spying on me or something? Just after I said that I stopped arriving at the boss. The hell.

>>11622999

Fuck the guys who made those rules, really. What are we supposed to post about then? People who insisted on them are gonna get bored and leave and the only purpose they'll serve is choking the threads to death.

>> No.11623033

>>11623021
The Goddess is always staring at you; from behind your back, inside your closet, outside your windows. She whispers softly beside your ear whenever you're going to break through, "I... won't.. let... youuuuu.....".

>> No.11623042

>>11623021
Be careful what you desire for, anon.

>> No.11623074

>>11623033
so that's why sometimes when I'm in a room alone I feel like there's someone staring at me from behind

>> No.11623079

>>11623074
That's probably your mom catching you jacking off the the shipgirls.

>> No.11623094

Getting sent to the north node after two perfect nodes hurts so much.

>> No.11623103

>>11623094
Yeah, fucking 2-3. I need the boss node so I can grind my ranks back.

>> No.11623132

>>11623103
why grind 2-3? Grind E7!

>> No.11623140

>>11623132

The fuck is E7 anyway? Nickname for grinding E3?

>> No.11623154

>>11623140
People got carried away with the joke that grinding for Agano after clearing the event was basically E-6. If there had to be an E-7 it would be grinding for the new drop but that's still the exact same thing.

>> No.11623167

>>11623154
E7 is basically E5. A new ship will be added that will drop from E5 boss, so yea.

>> No.11623162

>>11623140
E6 is the E3 grind, E7 is the E5 grind.

>> No.11623163

>>11623154

It does make some twisted, sick sort of sense. Heh.

Back to E-5; at least I got Agano already. I'm seriously considering abandoning this operation if Nagato drops along the way.

>> No.11623183

>>11623132
Obviously because 2-3 gives a better time/point ratio than E-5.

>> No.11623185

I wish they hadn't extended the event so I could stop trying to hard on e4.

>> No.11623207

>>11623163
When is this new ship coming anyways? I kind of just want to get E-5 done and over with soon.

>> No.11623208

>>11623207

Dunno - I'd bet early next week.

I won't even bother unless it's a sub.

>> No.11623245

I hate those little shits with their torpedo cutins in E5 so much, especially if one stays alive he targets KTKM/Ooi most of the time and I need them intact if I want to sink the boss.

>> No.11623273

>>11623245

Just look at them laugh at you, with their crooked teeth and lip-less smile. Look at them and despair.

>> No.11623354

When are the furnitures getting updated and which ones are being removed again?

>> No.11623364

>>11623354
maybe on 27th?

>> No.11623376

>>11623354

If they are still here now I don't think they'll bother pulling them down before the end of the event.

>> No.11623501
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11623501

Finally done with this hell, never again.

>> No.11623508

What does full upgrade without remodel on the wiki page for Fuso and Yamashiro mean?
The page still lists 1 remodel which has higher stats than the previous form and new equipment.

>> No.11623522

>>11623501
Can you post some info on your clear?

>> No.11623525
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11623525

First arpeggio and now outbreak company, I hope the anime comes out soon.

>> No.11623533

>>11623525
who translated geemu with anime?

>> No.11623534

>>11623533
Anime-koi

>> No.11623536

>>11623525
Is this the same show that had the Patchouli cutout?

>> No.11623539

>>11623536
yes

>> No.11623548

>>11623522
I spent around 10k on ammo, 7k on fuel and steel. Sparkled the ships every time, although it takes so much goddamn time. Was trolled by the compass numerous times as well as critted to low orange/ red on the first few nodes so I retreated. After half of her hp, I started to use support fleet, which killed 1-2 mobs. Tried all but went with the vertical formation in the end all the way.

>> No.11623563

>>11623548
Yeah I've spent almost triple that for my costs and I haven't gotten 1 kill. I think rng is telling me something so I'm gonna stop before I suicide my fleet.

>> No.11623566

Finally got my Kongou.

>> No.11623570

>>11623566
don't forget to create a new Api-link now.

>> No.11623574

>>11623563
Actually it should be around 20k and 15k since it was by third try to clear it.

>> No.11623575

>>11623570
I'm a new admiral, is this a running joke or something serious

>> No.11623580

>>11623574
*my third

>> No.11623581

>>11623575
A dumbass accidentally posted his API link on /a/ and they fucked with his shit.

Only upside was someone crafted a Kongou.

>> No.11623587

>>11623581
I hope no one on here goes to /a/.

>> No.11623597

Is there a database that has the girl's name with their corresponding ship number? I tried the wiki but it is hard to just navigate by number when I just want to know the name.

>> No.11623602
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>>>/a/96840003

Hey, have some 4koma 17 translations.

>> No.11623604

>>11623597
Nevermind, I'm dumb

>> No.11623711 [DELETED] 

>>11619710
Still under testing but after using it for 2-3 days/nights of running 2-3 with solo sub + Expeditions 2 and 5, I have a level 60 Iku and Imuya and procured loads of fuel and about 30 buckets. Do note I changed the ship healing procedure this morning, so I don't know if it's still working till I get home in about 5 hours.

http://pastebin.com/6UPv0NKE

>> No.11623728

I wish I wasn't the victim of RNG trolling all the time.

Doing E-3, and the only ships I get are 1-1 ships that I could get without any effort at all. Not to mention I have to use 2-6 buckets per trip, and the trips usually only lasts 1-2 nodes in north where I get trolled by high level ships.

Just give me fair chance and the south route, and I'd beat this area in less than an hour.

>> No.11623732

The game was running fine for a week (both in browser and in flash projector) but now at the Game Start button I keep getting a message about an unresponsive script and I have to close it. Does anyone know what might be causing it?

>> No.11623741

>>11623732
I get that sometimes when I click something a couple times before it loads properly, but haven't got it on the game start button.

>> No.11623742

>>11623732
Get a new api link

>> No.11623747

>>11623732
Flash being homosexual. Wait a bit and let the timer count down before going to another screen. It crashes pretty often if you rush.

>> No.11623754

I started a few days ago. Still a few things which aren't really clear to me.

What does the general level (not ships level) do? Haven't noticed much change with it except for the increased resources cap.

What stats are affected by ships levels? Do repair times keep rising like that? I'm afraid to level my ships because I won't be able to play that much anymore if they get damaged. I love my poor inazuma but she looks so sad when she gets hit. And then she needs over an hour in the docks.

>> No.11623755

>>11623754
Read the wiki, it tells you everything you want to know.

>> No.11623757

>>11623754
besides that most of those things are on the wiki, repair times of an hour are pretty short when you play the game longer and see repair times which take like a whole day.

>> No.11623758

>>11619710
It's still under development and testing, but I've run my script for 2-3 days/nights and now have a level 60 Iku and Imuya (from level 10 Iku and level 30 Imuya) that constantly run 2-3 for fuel and expeditions 2 and 5 for fuel and buckets. I've procured loads of fuel and about 30ish buckets as I sleep. I just changed the docking and repairing procedure this morning, so chances are it's going to get stuck there till it's calibrated and inevitable bugs are fixed. Feel free to try, and if anything delete parts of it so it runs as an expedition bot.

Current Build:
http://pastebin.com/drcm7T27

http://pastebin.com/drcm7T27

>> No.11623759

>>11623754
I normally don't mind answering one or two questions that are already answered by the wiki because some people might miss reading it but judging by how many questions you're asking that's already answered by the wiki, I'm assuming you never read the wiki at all, therefore I'm just gonna have to ask you to go read the goddamn wiki before asking all these questions already answered by the wiki.

>> No.11623761

>>11623754

Scratch damage repair on high-level fleet carriers doe not take an hour, it's counted in hours.

>> No.11623786

>>11623758
>script

Come on, please

>> No.11623790

>>11623758
>script
really now, why did you even sign up?

>> No.11623792

Will they ever fix the dead carriers launching planes bug?

>> No.11623795

I've gone straight to the boss for the past 10 or so maps I've played.
Would've been nice if I wasn't farming for transports and carriers.

>> No.11623798

>>11623758

There's a cold, hard ban waiting for you.

>> No.11623803

>>11623754
>>11623757
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Docking
Repair times are in the wiki.

>> No.11623813

>>11623792
Not a bug, a feature. These are the planes they had previously launched.

>> No.11623810

i hope they eventually add some sort of strategy or skill component to the actual combat, beyond the setup of your fleet. it's ok how it is, but a little more control over the outcome would be nice.

>> No.11623814

>>11623810
that could make the game ridiculously easy

>> No.11623816

>>11623759
>>11623755
>>11623757

Repair times i had found on the wiki, was more complaining about it than asking a question. But the thing about general levels/ship levels?

Call me a retard, I don't give a fuck, but I've tried various obvious search terms and none of them turned up with an awnser to my questions.

If by explanation about general level you mean this: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Experience_and_Rank then yes I had found that but that doesn't explain much about what the level does for you. It mentions admiral ranking, if that's all ok then I've learnt that, but seems silly to have a leveling system for that and that alone.

>> No.11623818

>>11623810
agreed, game needs a "prioritise xx first" function

>> No.11623828

>>11623816
You never checked the development page did you? It even has a nice picture for you to click at the front page.

>> No.11623842

>>11623828
I did, I however didn't read every single word of the page letter by letter to see that near the bottom it mentions HQ level. Now I have seen that and understand that HQ level affects what equipment you can build.

Anything else or am I going to have to click every page on the entire wiki, read every single line of text to see if there's more?

You'd expect to find this information if you typed in "Level" in search. Not under "Development".

>> No.11623849

>>11623816
Leveling up allows you to upgrade your ships at certain thresholds which alters the ships stats (typically for the better) as well as their stat caps. You will still need to feed your ship other ships to reach these new stat caps. Everytime you do a ship upgrade however, the ship goes to the base stats of the upgraded form and must be fed ships again. Typically ships only have one upgrade, in some cases two.

Besides that, leveling visibly increases the ships Enemy searching ability (索敵) and Evasion (回避) stats. It may increase the ship's accuracy as well, but that stat (命中) is not visibile so that's unknown.

>> No.11623853

>>11623849
Thanks

>> No.11623856

>>11623842
>typed in "Level" in search
It's the second result. Crafting effectiveness above a certain level is also mentioned in the FAQ. Also, ctrl+f.

>> No.11623859

>>11623849
Critical rate is thought to involve levels in one way or another, too. And if your ship can hit submarines, levels will make it do so better.

>> No.11623863

>>11623814
And now it's ridiculously luck based

>> No.11623870

>>11623849
>>11623859
That isn't what he's asking about.

>>11623754
>What does the general level (not ships level) do?

>> No.11623880

>>11623870
If you read >>11623754 carefully, you'll notice he asked what stats are affected by ship levels. But then again, if he read the FAQ, he wouldn't even need to ask this.

Question quoted from the FAQ itself
>If I can raise stats with modernization, what's the point of leveling up?

>> No.11623886 [DELETED] 

>>11623880
I did, but >>11623849 and >>11623859 are quoting >>11623816 which is complaining about HQ level specifically.

>> No.11623906

>>11623842
If you want to complain about how information in the wiki is organised, there's a link to the suggestions talk on the wikis front page.

>> No.11623911

>>11623842
If you ctrl+F 'hq' at the FAQ page you only turn up one result.

>Is it important to craft equipment?
>Not until you reach HQ level 20. You can try, but don't expect the rare ones.

This question and answer makes the relationship between crafting equipment and HQ level obvious.

Also if you actually used the wikia search function for 'HQ level', the first result leads you to the Development page.

>> No.11623919
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I want to honk Yukikaze's head horns.

>> No.11623933

How viable is running 6 Carriers?
What would be the best formation if I plan on doing that?

>> No.11623946

>>11623933
R.I.P. Bauxite

>> No.11623963

>>11623933
Depends on map length, for 1-2 fights it'll be easy but bauxite-intensive, but they'll lose steam after the third node or so.

>> No.11623966

After a single battle, my boat daughters are turning yellow. They're getting out with scratches or less. Why they not like fight?

>> No.11623977

>>11623946

Heavy bauxite usage results from large number of planes shot down, not their use in battle as is. Try it against enemies without AA, no (or just a little bit) baux depleted if nothing is shot down.

>>11623933

Unless you fight enemy carrier groups you might actually be fine. It's hardly sustainable due to general slow generation of bauxite, whether from regen or expeditions.

>> No.11623981

>>11623966
Please go read about exhaustion.

>> No.11624002

>>11623966
It's in the FAQ.

>> No.11624018

So, time to check if that gauge regen freeze thing works. Gotta catch some Zs.

>> No.11624030

>>11623981
I know what it is and what it means, I'm wondering why it's happening so quickly when I wake up, do a single battle, some don't even get hit, and they all come back orange. If you don't know anything beyond the FAQ, you can't answer my question.

>> No.11624043

>>11624030
pretty sure that's all on the wiki

>> No.11624053

>>11624030
We can answer your question, we just can't be bothered when you can just read about it on the wiki

>> No.11624088

>>11624043
Oh. Sorry. I forgot, four sentences contain all knowledge on the subject. Again, if you're incapable of anything above call-center quality help, I'm not interested.

>> No.11624094

>>11624030
Did you win the battle?

>> No.11624106

>>11624088
You're welcome. Now fuck off.

>> No.11624109

Are there any good kancolle MMD videos yet?

>> No.11624118

>>11624030
>Fatigue

>See Alright, I built my ship, kicked some ass and I noticed the orange faces. What gives?.
orange/sad faces are displayed next to the ship icon if they are too fatigued. Rest them for 15 minutes or so if it happens.

>Return to base: +15

Specific fatigue values on wikiwiki: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C8%E8%CF%AB%C5%D9

What does this all mean? You're probably retarded and possibly partially blind as well so I'll explain. Winning battles give you some positive fatigue. Returning from a sortie gives you a large negative fatigue. So if you only do one battle and return to base, your ships will get tired very fast. The flagship itself and MVP gets mild additional positive fatigue from battle so they'll succumb to this less strongly.

>> No.11624122

2 Chiyoda from 1 run? Interesting

>> No.11624123

>>11624094
The fleet hadn't been touched for 8 hours, I sent them to 1-1 to do the Bd1 quest, it was over in a single shot, they all came back fatigued.

I literally did nothing else.

>> No.11624130

For E-5, do you guys choose only high speed or mixed fleets? If the south route doesn't have any nasty surprises, it seems better than going all fast with 2 Kongou-classes since the north node has a whirlpool.

>> No.11624138

>>11624130
How do you feel about fighting flagship Ka- and Yo-classes at night?

>> No.11624148

>>11624130
>south route
Tried it a few times, got sent back. Too lazy to try again.

>> No.11624151

>>11624138
I've never fought subs at night before... although I don't think it would be a particularly pleasant experience. Thanks, I'll stick to the north node then.

>> No.11624158

>>11624151
You may want to go for the middle road, if that's what you meant by south. It guarantees a boss fight, but you'll need an uniform-speed fleet for it, if I recall. Either all-slow or all-fast, mixed sends you to submarine hell.

>> No.11624164

>>11624158
I actually meant the south route since it doesn't have a whirlpool or additional enemy node but it seems that subs are horrible enemies at night so never mind about that.

>> No.11624172

I hope support fleets are more useful next event than they are this one, I love watching the cut-in attacks happen but unless you're trying to scrape together some extra damage for the last kill they're just not worth it at all. There are so many more ways to make it more interesting (shooting down planes, interdicting enemy support fleets, anti-submarine duty, so on).

>>11624088
> Again, if you're incapable of anything above call-center quality help, I'm not interested.
So stop coming to us for help,. At least call-center workers are paid to deal with your retarded bullshit.

>> No.11624170

Just unlocked my second fleet. What's the advised strategy? Farm nodes with one, and send the other on expeditions? What after you unlock 3 and 4.

>> No.11624177
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>>11624138
do either of those mean CAs?

>> No.11624178

>>11624170
>What's the advised strategy? Farm nodes with one, and send the other on expeditions? What after you unlock 3 and 4.
Yes. Ideally, you'll rotate ships in and out of your first fleet, while using the other three exclusively for expeditions.

>> No.11624182

>>11624177
read the wiki

>> No.11624185

>>11624177
Worse. Submarines.

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>>11624177
The face of a hellspawn.

>> No.11624333

>>11624109
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22080364

>> No.11624429

Is it still worth leveling your ships through fatigue (sad faces) if you do enough damage to clear 3-2-A and go in without prior damage?

>> No.11624441

http://www.amiami.jp/top/detail/detail?scode=FIG-COL-6463

You know you want it.

>> No.11624450

>>11624441
Overpriced to hell and back.
I do feel obligated to buy something though. I might just buy the manga like I do with Touhou.

>> No.11624458

>>11624441
Too much for straps that if I use will end up all worn up. I ordered the Shimakaze nendo and might get Akagi's as well.

>> No.11624463

>>11624450
Im going to buy the vita game and maybe some repair docks if I really feel like it, that should be enough.

>> No.11624495

Man, E-4 is hell. I keep getting crit on into red before the boss, then when I try going in red on one run, I lose a damage control and don't even kill the boss. Hardly even chipped the hp bar and 6 hours in.

>> No.11624541

>>11624495
try kongo trash trash trash trash kongo

>> No.11624544
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>>11624495
The best defense against crits is killing them first before they attack. So I used the first formation the entire way.

>> No.11624551

>>11624495
>>11624544
This.
Horizontal is a mistake. Too bad I only realize it after I did E-5. Would have cut down half the time and maybe I wont lose 4damage con at E-4.

>> No.11624554

>>11624495
I lost a damage control and a goddess when doing E4 and failed at it.
Really want to retry it if I get enough type 3 ammo but going in that hell without damage control scares me.

>> No.11624557

>>11624541
you should do kongou, kongou, trash, trash, trash, trash, that way the kongous can kill 2 mobs first and lessen the chance of the decoys dying. putting a kongou last isn't going to do much anyway since all the decoys in between won't be able to kill the mobs on the boss node

>> No.11624559

>>11624557
>trash,trash,trash,trash
You're a horrible admiral, how can you refer to your cute daughters as trash?

>> No.11624567

>>11624559
the cute daughters you're referring to have been locked, levelled and showered with love and care

the ones we're talking about are fakes, decoys made in their image, kinda morbid but they work so i can't complain

>> No.11624569

>>11624559
They're not daughters they're dupes

>> No.11624573

>>11624544
Because changing the formation changes the targeting order to top-bottom, right?
In the end, you're trading evasion/defense for accuracy, and either way, you'll eat those crit hits.

>> No.11624575

>>11624567
>>11624569
Murderer-admirals attempting to justify their war crimes. It won't save you from the tribunal. THe gallows is too good for you.

>> No.11624579

>>11624573
Doing vertical doesnt decrease your evasion.
Double vertical does decrease your evasion while increasing your armor.
Cut-in cant miss anyway.

>> No.11624586

>>11624579
Cut that bullshit out, I've seen both enemy and my own cut ins miss.

>> No.11624588

>>11624579
They can do chip damage, however. Dunno about other admirals, but I got through the pre-boss node in E-4 with just chip damages most of the times with horizontal.

> Doing vertical doesnt decrease your evasion.
sure doesn't feel like it doesn't decrease, coming from horizontal.
I think the only unreasonable choice for night battles is the 3rd formation, unless you're a scum of an admiral running suicide teams.

>> No.11624596

>>11624586
The fuck.
I have never seen a cut-in miss from my side.
Enemy cut-in miss because you have sinking protection on your red ship.

>> No.11624599

So... Got tips for quickly getting a lvl 20 fleet? I've been doing 1-2 grind but I can't help but think that there is some faster way. I don't have any battleships nor enough fuel to sustain the use of the recipe. I have 1 destroyer, 3 light carriers and 2 heavy carriers for my fleet.

Would appreciate some tips for this new teitoku

>> No.11624602

>>11624579
>Double vertical does decrease your evasion while increasing your armor.
None of the wikis agree with this. In fact, two of them say evasion increases.

>> No.11624605

>>11624599
> heavy carriers
Taihou and Shinano? I want them so badly.

Grind 2-1 instead. If you haven't cleared 1-4, get to it. Also, read the wiki.

>> No.11624614

>>11624599
I didn't bother crafting at all except for dailies. 2-2/3 boss gives all the battleships you could ever hope for.

>> No.11624618

>>11624602
Guess I am wrong then.
However from all the subs run and E-5 run, vertical has a better real life practical performance compare to other formation.

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>>11623919
But those are radars.

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>>11624575
what war crimes

>> No.11624627

>>11624605
heavy cruisers, my bad

More specifically my fleet is lv 13 destroyer, lvl 5 and 9 heavy cruisers, lvl 9 11 and 4 light cruisers. I don't know if I can take 1-4 yet.

I do read the wiki, but it's hard to judge what method is the fastest/efficient way to get your fleet to level 20.

>> No.11624626

>>11624618
> However from all the subs run and E-5 run, vertical has a better real life practical performance compare to other formation.
You forgot to add "according to my empirical observations".

>> No.11624644

>>11624626
Go ahead and use anything other than vertical on the 2nd flagship node at E-5.
I am sure it has better performance than vertical.

>> No.11624660

Is it proven which formation has the highest hit rate and evade rate?
Or is it all just speculation?

>> No.11624663

>>11624557
no the number of decoys making to the boss doesn't matter, all you need is a decoy/kongo to hit the boss then a kongo to finish it off.

>> No.11624667

>>11624627
Just keep doing the map with the highest exp/node then. It's not like you're going to wait too long for repairs at that level anyway.

>> No.11624673

>>11624575
So it's alright to scrap them the moment you get them, ripping them apart and feeding it to your "love" ones, but it's not alright to give them a chance and bring glory to the teitoku?

>> No.11624674

>>11624644
I did. I went with double lines and worked perfectly fine for me. Tried vertical at that node which worked just as well. This is after having done about 2 E-5-clears (gauge+kill) worth of sorties at E5.

>>11624627
Grind 1-4, then.

>>11624673
You're just disarming them and relieving them from duty.

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I can't wait for kancolle devs to implement ASROC.
it will kill those dreaded 4 subs in practice battle for good.

>> No.11624676

>>11624663
the point is to lessen the amount of enemies that can hit your ships, including your kongous. if you put the second kongou at the top, it's one less bb/ca/cl/whatever that can do a cut-in on your kongous and force you to retreat or do little damage.

>> No.11624679

>>11624676
if you put kongo on second, you have way less chance of sinking the airfield.

>> No.11624687

>>11624679
decoy ships aren't going to be killing anything except maybe one floating fortress

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>>11624687
You didn't even use decoys in e4 did you?
This is my final battle: yudachi: 114 damage on airfield, haruna the rest.

In my E4 i used nothing but decoy and 2 kongos, I sank it 3 times in a total run of 21. 2 times with trash+ haruna damage, and one time with kongo + haruna damage.
You clearly have no idea how much damage a lv1 double tap can do on the 0 defense airfield at night battle

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>>11624693

>> No.11624713

>>11624675
Fuck you. I can't wait for kancolle devs to implement VLS so that subs can just launch missiles and shit at whatever, whoever, and whenever.

>> No.11624719

>>11624718
not at the first battle, they will be hit to 1hp no matter what you are against though

>> No.11624718

>>11624429
No, you'll sink your ships if they have red faces.

>> No.11624726

RNG is bullshit. I just got 3xSS victories all the way up to the boss on E4, then I get sent down to the deadend. Vertical formation all 3 times btw.

>> No.11624728

>>11624726
If things are going too well, you'll know where the compass will take you next

>> No.11624732

>>11624728
>>11624726
I have reasons to believe that the RNG is always watching you, and that the RNG wants nothing more than to troll you at every turn.. it seems to feed on delicious tears or something along that line.

>> No.11624733

>>11624726
There is no RNG, just a desire detector.

>> No.11624739

>>11624728
Yeah after my flawless victory at the pre-boss node I just sat there looking at the compass, knowing where I was going to go but still holding out hope that maybe I'd have some luck.

I've encountered the boss 17 times so far, and 4 times my ships have ignored it completely. I've activated the day battle about half the time otherwise and sank her once in a very early run, but no luck since.

>> No.11624744

>>11624739
the true battle begins when you realize you are running out of resource/bucket, anon.

>> No.11624745

>>11624739
I get flawless victory on the first 2 nodes, then suddenly everyone's red on the 3rd node, Only got to encounter the boss like 4 times, only doing chip damage to the boss.

>> No.11624750

I lost my Junyou but in exchange crafted a Yukikaze. Was the Beaver worth it?

>> No.11624754

>>11624750
yes 60luck

>> No.11624766

>>11624750
No.
Junyou is the cutest Light Carrier.

>> No.11624772

>>11624766
That's not RJ.

>> No.11624776
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Ahem.

>> No.11624782

>>11624750
Yes.
Yukikaze is the best ship because of her 60luck. Yugioh carrier is common anyway, you can easily get her back.

>> No.11624784

>>11624744
I've still got a lot of resources but I don't think I'm going to kill the boss again without extreme luck, like having 2-3 of my ships target her in the night phase again or something. I only have one sanshiki so once I get to the day phase my hits on the boss are usually less than 100 per, and thats if I hit her at all.

I'm tempted to go the 2xKongo + trash route since it looks like I need a significant amount of luck on my side even with my main fleet. I ran the support expedition for a bit once I got the boss to 0% health but I had to retreat or got trolled by the compass something like 14 runs in a row so I'm focusing on resource expeditions again.

>> No.11624787

I can't help but see her as an angry Nitori.

>> No.11624791

>>11624784
>I only have one sanshiki

There is your problem.

>> No.11624792

>>11624784
Did you try making more sanshiki? having at least 2-3 helps a hell lot. Throw away ship tactics works really well too.

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>>11624776
Zuihou is the cutest, no doubt.

>> No.11624828
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Noshiro and her sister ship have so much junk on their trunks, I'm surprised they're not CA's.

>> No.11624847
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While taking a break from E-6, I decided to clear that 4-4 since I still had tons of buckets just sitting there. Cleared it with ease and decided to take a shot at 5-1.

Sent support expedition lead by Zuikaku (sparkled) and Shoukaku + 2 BBs + 2 DDs. They didn't show up for the first 2 battles and my Yukikaze got hit to red by the flagship Ru class in the 2nd battle. I continued since I had damecon equipped on her. I thought she'd be okay until the boss battle, but the enemies air strike took her out. Gokousen's tardy girls finally showed up, and took out half of the enemy fleet (no doubt thanks to Mutsu and Kongou Kai 2 decked out in 46 cm guns), but as Yukikaze was in red without damecon, I had to retreat.

Too bad Ikkousen's girls were in bathing break after their hard work at 4-4.

>> No.11624851

Is there any ship that outright abuses and shits on you?
I want a cute sadistic girl to be my secretary.

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>>11624851
The only path.

>> No.11624854

>>11624851
Closest you can get is Akebono.

>> No.11624863

Fat-man and Little-boy, when?

>> No.11624870

>>11624863
Abyss ship get out.

>> No.11624872

>>11624854
Ehh, not exactly what I wanted, but thanks anyway.
She seems a bit more bitchy than sadistic. I want someone who'll call me a waste of air while telling me to lick her boots. They really hope they add someone like that.

>> No.11624879

>>11624872
If they add someone like that then they better make doujins where they mindbreak her and she becomes a masochist addicted to dicks.

>> No.11624886

Is there a certain map to grind for bauxite aside from expedition? I remember it being mentioned in the wiki as a tip but its no longer there.

>> No.11624894

>>11624886
2-2 has a node right next to the starting point which has it.

>> No.11624900

>>11624863
no, they're not ships

>> No.11624905

>>11624886
Quoted from wiki's FAQ
>Where do i grind for specific resources or items?
>Bauxite: expedition (6, 11, 15), map 2-2 (with submarine).

>> No.11624912

>>11624894
>>11624905
Thanks. I thought I saw it from the event page as tips before this.

>> No.11624915

>>11624870
No!
>>11624900
Implying that they can't add in new equipments?

>> No.11624916

If only I could hire someone to play the game 24/7 no breaks for me, I could join the exclusive club of high rolling teitokus.

>> No.11624921

>>11624915
you do know they are nukes drop off a bomber on the AMERICAN side?

>> No.11624927

>>11624916
I'll never understand what rich people think

>> No.11624931

>>11624916
You just need cash.
Some autist joined on the 1st day of the event and cleared it 2weeks later by spending money.

>> No.11624935

>>11624916
I remember the time when we've had an extensive no-Kongou club in these threads.

Things were much simpler then.

>> No.11624938

>>11624912
moved to FAQ since it was not relevant on the event page.

>>11624935
we need no-Musashi and no-Yamato club

>> No.11624942

>>11624916
get subs and you'll be doing that

>> No.11624943

>>11624938
Most teitoku and their mom can get in those "exclusive" clubs.

>> No.11624948

>>11624938
I am still in the no-nagato and no-shitkaku club.
I dont know how people are getting good stuff from E-6. All I am getting is furutaka, sendai and imuya.

>> No.11624952

>>11624938
Some ships are still pretty rare, like Nagato or Zuikaku.

I personally graduated from the no-nagato club today, got one from my first craft recipe while trying for Kumano.

Was using 400/30/601/30 because I dont know a better recipe for her.

>> No.11624957

>>11624948
With luck? You have to remember this is a game where the only thing that matters is how lucky you are.

I got some really good drops from E3 boss S-rank so I can confirm that it has good drops.

>> No.11624962

>>11624943
I'm pretty sure the number of Musashi owners have surpassed Yamato's already.

What I really want now is a goddamn Mikuma and Yuugumo

>> No.11624963

>>11624921
Doesn't mean they can't add it into the equipments for the Abyss fleet.

do you really HAVE to type like this?

>> No.11624967
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Light carriers cute.

>> No.11624969

>>11624967
Too bad they all suck except for Zuihou.

>> No.11624971

>>11624962
last time i heard it's 50k admirals.

>>11624967
is Wo-class a CVL or a CV?

>> No.11624973

>>11624962
So basically the current event is easier compare to the summer event or was it because of the influx of players?

>> No.11624977

>>11624971
CV

>> No.11624979

>>11624792
I've been trying for 2 weeks with no luck. The one I do have was the result of an attempt at something else, and all of the recipes I've tried give me pretty much everything except what I need.

>> No.11624985

Are they really instabanning people who reload everytime on maps for resource grinding?

>> No.11625000

>>11624985
Try it and let us know.

>> No.11625005

>>11624985
If you do it with the proper precaution, no.

>> No.11625007

>>11624985
I do it occasionally and nothing has happened to me yet.

>> No.11625028

>>11624985
Reload everytime I got sent to the non sub node in 4-1
Reload everytime I got sent to the E3 south end node
Reload everytime I got sent SW in E4
Reload everytime I got sent NE in E5

I am still playing the game

>> No.11625060
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For whoever cares:

Started with evil teitoku technique until I ran out of dupes to scrap/remodel with. Didn't seem very effective for me at all, in terms of resource preservation. Just a big waste of time to save a few buckets.

Yuudachi 56-60 [12.7B, 10cm, turbine]
KTKM 53-57 [15.5cm x2, turbine]
Haruna 39-46 / Kirishima 6-10 [41cm x2, 3shiki, repair]
Kongou 48-55 [41cm x2, 3shiki, repair]
Maya 31-34 / Atago 42-45 [15.5cm x2, 3shiki, repair/radar]

Last spot was all over the place, between the other CA above, Mutsu (31), level 1's, and I happened to put Imuya (53) there on my kill attempt.

17k fuel, 17k steel, 12k ammo (while running expeditions)
100 buckets
10 hours (the first 5 were boring evil teitoku only getting boss to 65%)
3 repairs (not really necessary but I was getting impatient)

At first I was trying every formation, and none seemed any better than the others. After switching to the kill squad I stuck to vertical.

Used support fleet after boss was within kill range, but it didn't matter at all because Kongou and Mayasama eventually just decided to beat the shit out of Henderson-chan at night. Also Yuudachi K2 is a fucking monster.

If the extension lasts until next weekend I guess I'll be able to do E-5 too. Pretty good considering I wasn't planning on getting past E-2.

>> No.11625067

>>11625060
Cut yourself and die, asshole.

>> No.11625071

>>11625060
>to save a few buckets.
but that's not the point.

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>>11625060
Finally got her down as well. Took 21.5 hours (couple of 1 hour long rest periods in there), 77 sorties, and 20 encounters with the boss. No ships lost, no chipping with DDs, just straight through with my main fleet.

20k+ Fuel, 17k Ammo, 20k+ steel, and negligible Bauxite. Only random drops of note were Suzuya and Kinugasa.

>> No.11625097

>>11625071
I was saying that's all it did for me. I got through the same amount of boss HP with my main fleet and the same amount of resources in less time. I probably just had unusually bad luck while I was trying it.

>> No.11625113

How do you guys ensure that the boss gets sunken in E-5? I've been trying for at least 5 times and it seems every attempt failed.

Tried with support and they failed to take out anyone.

>> No.11625117

>>11625113
4 BB 2 DD support.

>> No.11625119

>>11625117
I tried, even with sparkling the 2DDs. They end up taking out two at max.

>> No.11625120

>>11625113
Get your heavy hitters like the torpedo sisters to the bottom spots and pray they don't get badly damaged before night phase.

>> No.11625121

>>11625119
If your fleet can't take out 4 ships in day battle + night battle, then the fleet composition must be horribly wrong.

>> No.11625122

>>11625121
Torpedo sisters, Atago, Maya, Kongou and Haruna. Levels from 55 to 70.

>> No.11625123

>>11625113
Do you sparkle your ships?

>> No.11625125

>>11625123
Not all of them.

>> No.11625128

>>11625122
In that order? Have one of the torpedo sisters at the last slot with Kongou sisters at 2nd and 3rd.

>> No.11625129

>>11625113
Do you make it to the boss node with all green?
Are you using minisub?
minisub instantgib 2scrubs, support instantgib further 1or2 scrubs, BB will handle the BB leaving ironbottom sound alone for night battle. It is hard to fail at E-5 boss.

>> No.11625131

>>11625128
Kongou sisters, CAs and torp sisters in that order.

>>11625129
Yes.
Yes.

>> No.11625135

>>11625131
There is no way you should fail.
Let me guess, you dont have 46cm and got raped by air raid? Stack green gun on your last slot.

>> No.11625132

>>11625125
Maybe you should try it with your whole fleet sparkled.

>> No.11625139

>>11625135
Air raid doesn't even affect me much.

>>11625132
Both main and support?

>> No.11625145

>>11625139
Then you probably got trolled by red T-cross for all the run. With the opening torpedo salvo and end of battle torpedo salvo, there shouldn't be more than 2xenemy alive remaining for night battle. Pray for T-cross advantage.

>> No.11625144

>>11625139
At least the main one.

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>>11625145
>>11625144
>>11625135
>>11625132
>>11625129
>>11625128
>>11625123
>>11625121
>>11625120
>>11625117
Thank you everyone. Ooi did her job very well.

>> No.11625191

>>11625178
Congratulations, anon.

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>>11625178
Atago: 20.3cm, triple 15.5cm, high-angle 12.7cm, Type 21 radar
Kongous: 46cm, 41cm (don't have enough 46cms, in fact both of them took the two I have), high-angle 12.7cm, goddess
Maya: similar to Atago, except radar was replaced with goddess
KTKM and Ooi: 2 x triple 15.5cms, midget submarine

Support: Shigure Kai 2, Yuudahi Kai 2, Nagato, Mutsu, Kirishima, Hiei. All BBs have 3 x 41cms and Type 21 radar.

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>>11624973
Prepare your anus.

>> No.11625197

>>11625178
Enjoy your new Musashi. May you never sortie her unless she's Flagship and don't forget to lock her in case you accidentally make her ship food.

>> No.11625207

>>11625192
Congratulations. How much resources and buckets did you burn through?

I'm stockpiling for E5 now, and I want to make sure to have enough. My E4 was hell because I ran out of my 150 buckets when the boss has only one bar of hp left.

>> No.11625214

>>11625207
Used close to 75 buckets. Started from around 22k resources for everything.

The attempts to kill the boss was the one that really drained the resources though. I started at around 10am nip time.

>> No.11625251

>>11625214
Alright, thanks. Time to farm more from my measly 30 buckets state.

>> No.11625257

>>11625251
Better to prepare at least 100 buckets.

>> No.11625285

RIP Shouhou

>> No.11625297

>>11625207

Used over 100 buckets already, boss at last bar. I wouldn't advise starting without at least 200, with 20k fuel/ammo/steel in stockpile.

>> No.11625307
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E4 is way easier than I expected...

99 KTKM/Ooi

99 Yuki / 98 Shimakaze

76 Kongo 2 / 72 Haruna.

about 5k fuel/ammo, 4k steel, 70 bucket used.

Total clear time = about 3 hours.

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Feels bad to get rid of the extra Aganos.

>> No.11625312

>>11625310
why arent you remodeling them to farm the guns?

>> No.11625314

>>11625307
Pretty sad if you are gonna fail it with lv99s

>> No.11625315

>>11625310
Anon, share your secret.
E3 or E5?

>> No.11625320

>>11625312
Are they that good because I'm lazy to farm them to lvl 35.

>>11625315
2 in E3, one in E5 on my runs to kill the boss.

>> No.11625322

>>11625320
well you cant build them so i'd farm for it

>> No.11625349
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11625349

So they still haven't implemented the aircraft sub = sub for expeditions yet? Surely it's not that hard to do.

>> No.11625357

>>11625349
They have

>> No.11625361

Instead of extending the event they should have simply put the rule in place, that if you're having a perfect run you're guaranteed to get to the boss node.

>> No.11625371

>>11625361
that would be too nice of them, instead they want to make you suffer more while hunting for the new shipgirl in E5 with little chance of dropping.

>> No.11625374

>>11625361
>>11625371

I'd rather have support expeditions not consuming resources if you didn't get to boss node.

>> No.11625380

>>11625374
I'm fine with oil consumption, but spending ammo when they don't fire a single shell is quite nonsense.

>> No.11625385

>>11625257
>>11625297
Right, will try for 200. I'm trying not to rush things and wait until the announcement for the new E5 girl is out, if they're going to implement it.

>> No.11625398

Just got 20 extra dock spaces. Feels good not having to delete 1-2 units every time.

>> No.11625408
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11625408

>>11625385

Record of my struggles, if you're interested. 200 buckets really is a safety net for extreme compass trolling, especially if you don't F5 out of dead ends.

>> No.11625418

So, just had a situation in pvp where the enemy fleet was all at 1 HP, but it let me move on to night battle. In night battle, my Yukikaze shot at the 1 HP Zuiho twice, missed twice, and then I won with an S. I guess 1 HP doesn't really mean 1 HP sometimes.

>> No.11625422

What do I have to do to stop getting send to NE dead end in the North route on E-5?
It's happened 25 times in a row now and I can't find anything on this dead end. Theoretically my fleet should work too: 3DDs 2 Kongous and Kitakami.

>> No.11625424

Is F5-ing out of dead end considered safe?

>> No.11625423

>>11625418
This game seems to have serious problems with lower bounds. There's the one minute "exploit", a bunch weird pvp interactions with 1HP, and problems with displaying experience involving small numbers.

>> No.11625425

>>11625422
Do the middle route. It's the same difficulty as the north (one of the battles is just a ship that misses and 6 cloud fodder) and you don't have to deal with the whirlpool resource loss (apparently you need three radars to negate that).

>> No.11625429

>>11625424
Yes.

>> No.11625435

>>11625418

I think it's a different thing here. You can't sink ships in PvP, so if they receive damage over their total HP they lock in at 0 and are flagged as defeated.

It is, as you well know, possible to get hit down to exactly 1hp and still fight. Since they can't go to zero, any extra damage just flags them as down for the count despite displaying as a miss. In other words, just a display/GUI oversight they can't be arsed to fix.

>> No.11625453

>>11625408
Thanks much, I'm looking for logs like these so I can tell what to expect.

>> No.11625474

>>11625408
Did you sparkle?

>> No.11625492
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11625492

Finally E5 cleared! It definitely went a lot easier than E4 did.

Main Fleet:
Haruna - 46cm red, 41cm red, Sanshiki, Type21 Radar
Hiei - Two 41cm reds, Sanshiki, E.Repair
Aoba - Three 15.5cm yellows, 12cm30 green; eventually swapped one yellow for an E.Repair
Shimakaze - Two 10cm greens, E.Repair; used up an E.Repair in the 2nd to last run and forgot to put anything into her third slot for when I actually sank the boss.
Kita/Ooi - 10cm green, 15.5cm yellow, midget sub; started with two 15.5cms but I started getting wrecked in the initial air raid at the boss so swapped in the greens

Support Fleet:
Kongou - Three 41cm reds, Type21 Radar
Nagato - Three 41cm reds, AP Round
Hibiki/Samidare - Two 10cm greens, 12.7cm red
Kaga/Zuikaku - 2 Suiseis, 2 Tenzans

Initially got a pretty early sink and things were looking pretty nice from there. I decided to take a break and AFK at the boss introduction screen to prevent any regen and went to sleep. Initially started with Kongou and Maya, but after seeing no results from either of them, I swapped both out for Hiei and Shimakaze. Had some fairly decent runs afterwards and got the boss within the sink range after about 5 hours of leisurely playing. Sparkled fleet almost every time and used support expedition a couple times at the start but went through most of E5 without one. Once I needed support for the sink, it became apparent that they were useless and just huge resource sinks with no payoff so I stopped using them.

The difference between a sparkling fleet and a non-sparkling fleet were huge; I swear the targeting became smarter when they were sparkled and I believe it was the difference between whether or not the BB node would cut-in for critical hits to send ships into the red or just laughing off 3 damage and moving onto the boss. Started with around 125ish buckets and finished with 35 to spare. Ships in orange never sank and ships that went into night battle in the red were also safe. Overall time was roughly 8.5 hours.

>> No.11625491

>>11625474

No, just ensured Mamiya isn't blinking. I did some sparkle runs (from easy PvP matches) and saw almost no difference in resilience - they just hit a little harder, still went down from a cut-in or a crit.

The biggest thing I learned from this is that as long as you go into boss node in orange you CAN'T sink, even if you go red in the day and engage in night combat. I've had 1hp Ooi (began the night in red) eat two straight cut-ins from boss and a Princess without sinking.

>> No.11625499

>>11625492
Congrats anon.

>1.3k steel
I know who I'm not sortieing if there's a chance to get hit.

>> No.11625503

>>11625499
like yamato, shes a trophy, not to be used excep pvp and maybe support

>> No.11625512

>>11625492
Congrats, anon, and thanks for the report. And holy shit, that repair bills.

>> No.11625514 [DELETED] 
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11625514

Embrace yourselves.

>> No.11625517

>>11625514
It's KanCone.

>> No.11625516

>>11625514
Did you miss the post earlier?

>> No.11625518

>>11625514
see >>11623525
delete yourself

>> No.11625520

>>11625516
Oh fuck, I did. Ctrl F'd the name seperately, no wonder it didn't came up. Gonna delete it now, thanks for the notice.

>> No.11625549
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11625549

>>11625453
Have another, along with whatever misguided advice I gave back here >>11619485. My ships were really bad about taking out the right targets so vertical line or sparkling might have been better about giving them priority aiming but the real hell was early cut ins and the compass. Given that the full support fleet took out two enemies and no one was in the red I could ace the boss night battle. And I never lost a ship at night there, I wouldn't be comfortable enough to test it without damage control but I always pressed on when KTKM and Ooi were up and ready. And if they were red it was back to base because they were my main guns.

At first I had a Maya around 65 but she was doing a crap job despite pulling me through E-4 and Yuudachi could hit twice as hard so I found DDs very reliable. Honestly it seemed like the Kongou sisters were my weak link. I saw everyone else shrug off cut ins for single digit damage but for those two it was a guaranteed orange. Not that I stopped unless anyone went red. And I'm sure they helped with AA because the planes never touched me.

>> No.11625552

>>11625549
>KTKM
Why are you people still doing this?

>> No.11625562

>>11625549
The Kongou sisters didn't perform that well for me either, though they were pretty good to take out the crap mobs at boss if they weren't badly damaged.
Too bad I didn't have any high lvl DD's so I was stuck with using CA's.

>> No.11625566

>>11625552
I use her, but then again, I'm low lvl, I don't even have BBs yet.

>> No.11625571

>>11625549
DD is definitely great on E-5.
I went with 3torpedo setup on Yukikaze and went with her as my finisher. Never fail to take out 1guy during the torpedo phase and finished off the boss with a cut in.

>> No.11625573

>>11625552
What's wrong with Kitakami?

>> No.11625574

>>11625552
It's his list, why do you care?

>> No.11625579

>>11625552
Is KTKM the new ZKMS?

>> No.11625586

>>11625549
Thanks a lot. My Maya has been underperforming in E4, actually, so I'm considering swapping her, but I love her too much. I'll try a test run first after I stockpiled enough, and plan things accordingly, I guess.

>> No.11625589

>>11625586
I think knowing when to give up is the best asset when it comes to playing this game.
It's very hard to make the decision to give up once you've spend 5000+ resources but still aren't getting the results you were hoping for, but it can save you a suprising amount of work.

>> No.11625600
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11625600

I have done it. Finally beat E-5. Was down to my last 2k res, but I finally beat it. So relieved that I won't have to do any more of these events until the next one.

>> No.11625603

>>11625589
I agree. But yeah, it's very hard to give up especially after looking at how much have been lost. For me, losing damage controls are what tipped me off the most, so I normally take a break every time I lost one.

>> No.11625609

>>11625600
Oh but you're coming back there next week for that new ship they're gonna release, just you wait.

>> No.11625611
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11625611

Is E3 even worth it?
All these useless drops, I might as well start crafting right? Somehow farming E5 isnt even that frustrating. At least I see a gold background every other run.

>> No.11625612

>>11625611
E-6 is only for people who don't have rare ships and have too much resources to burn. You can craft as well, what's stopping you?

>> No.11625621

>>11625612
Once you started going for it you cant stop. You go thinking, the last drop is a shitty drop, the next drop is going to be a rare drop and keep continuing. I have terrible crafting luck, I have never crafted a holo BB or CV. Everything have been off drop and seeing the two carrier fleet quest is an eyesore.

>> No.11625625

>>11625621
Don't worry about it, just keep telling yourself you don't need those rare stuff and you don't have enough space in your fleet and let logic take over. Worked for me.

>> No.11625629

>>11625625
That's the exact mindset I've been using for this entire event since I like most of the ships I got at the start the most already.
I don't want any new shiny ships, I just want to beat the difficult parts with my favourite ships, but that's not possible.

>> No.11625638

>>11625625
I couldn't resist the temptation to get a new ship that I want and get a little bit closer to completing my card collection.

>> No.11625668

>>11625611
I want to forget about E-3, especially since I already beat it, but I want Agano.

>> No.11625681

>>11625668
Agano also drops in E-5 but no *kaku or hatsukaze.

>> No.11625684

>>11625681
I know. Just that I don't have the resources and levels to even beat E-4.

>> No.11625687

>>11625684
You don't need high lvls to beat E4, it's more about luck.

>> No.11625688

>>11625684
There is no need to rush or waste all your resources on E-3. You have 11days to beat E-4.
You dont need levels, you need luck.

>> No.11625690

>>11625681
Why would you make the easier maps farmable instead of the harder maps?
Kinda defeats the point of being a cunt and making maps really difficult.

>> No.11625691

>>11625687
>>11625688
In that case, I'll give it a try over the weekend. I think I have enough resources to give it a shot.

>> No.11625700

>>11625690
I would actually be happy if they put the crane sisters as E-5 drops with higher drop rate.
Farming E-5 actually cost less.

>> No.11625719

>>11625700
How do you farm E-5 so that it cost less than E-3?

>> No.11625720

>>11625719
subs

>> No.11625723

>>11625720
I doubt you can get good drops unless you get A rank at least.

>> No.11625728

So how was the last event compared to this one?

>> No.11625729

>>11625723
rank doesn't matter, there's no proof stating otherwise

>> No.11625732

>>11625720
Any good drops?

>> No.11625733

>>11625719
Anon, DD/CLT/CA all use less fuel and ammo than CV.
You also only do 3nodes in E-5.
In E-3 I either get sent to south dead end or I end up going the zigzag direction doing all 5nodes. I have never been sent to the direct south straight to the boss. Best I got was the direct north route with the zigzag route being the most common.

>> No.11625735

>>11625729
It's your burden of proof.
For E-3, there's no good drop rewards below S rank.

>> No.11625737

>>11625729
I am pretty sure rank matter.
100+ A/B rank in 2-3 resulted in zero Makigumo.
This should be a big enough sample size since nobody have reported a Makigumo drop while doing sub run.

>> No.11625738

>>11625737
come back when you have at least 10 times those samples, better 100 times.

>> No.11625745

>>11625738
Have fun sub cheesing for the new ship if you believe so.

>> No.11625749

>>11625745
I'm not doing that, just saying that 100 samples is not enough to proof anything with it.

>> No.11625866

>>11625737
I got a Makigumo, B-rank from 2-3. Can't get a S since I'm always doing twin sub runs and rotating fatigue/docking downtime.

>> No.11625876
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11625876

Some guy on Futaba suggested this.

>> No.11625883

>>11625876
So he's saying water radar might help?

>> No.11625886

>>11625876
So LOS actually affects the compass results? does it have to be the fleet average or just the flagship?

>> No.11625889

>>11625886
>>11625883
I think it's Line of Sight but this is only a suggestion, we don't even know if it's true.

>> No.11625892

What if you need at least B rank for silver, A for gold, S for holo to drop.

>> No.11625898

>>11625892
That's wrong.
I've had a Zuikaku drop from rank A.

>> No.11625908

>>11625876
So there's actually a use for saiun besides screwing you over with T advantage?

>> No.11625909

>>11625892
I think it's different for event maps. I have yet to see good reports for lower ranks. Normal maps even B can give you good stuffs.

>> No.11625920

>>11625909
the event maps don't give me good drops even with S ranks, so it just might be random chance.

>>11625889
the sample size is too small to say anything, and I get from D to F in a high enough rate to not rage about the compass with a LOS of 33 on my flag ship.

>> No.11625925

>>11625920
I'm talking specifically for E-3. Reports on that has been over thousands. From consistent admirals who record all their runs.

>> No.11625934

>>11625925
the sample size I was talking about was the one from >>11625876 which is 21 and 11

>> No.11625937
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11625937

Translation help needed. Tried asking on /a/ but didn't get any serious replies, didn't really want to eat up the image limit.

>> No.11625950

>>11625937
You mean the untranslated text there? It's 'You already have more than enough battleships'. (貴君も戦艦を持つには十分じゃろう)

>> No.11625959

>>11625492
Is something wrong with CVs? Trying to decide what fleet I should use for E-5. I see the wiki says "focused on night battle" but that's vague.

>> No.11625961

>>11625937
You're translating 赤城さん? Excellent taste. The video version of it is one of my favourite videos ever on niconico.

>> No.11625965

>>11625959
You wouldn't be asking this question if you have completed E-2 or E-4 already.

>> No.11625966

e4 boss? can't even pass 1st node without going red. It's like all the minions lockon to kongou even if she is the flagship. I have all my battles sparkle.

>> No.11625967

>>11625965
And uhhh, why is that?
>Boss fight starts as normal (day + night).

>> No.11625971

>>11625967
Go figure it out on your own.

>> No.11625983

>>11625967
No one said you can't bring CVs into E-5. It's a matter of preference.

>> No.11626006

>>11625950
Thanks, much apprecaited.
>>11625961
Might do his KTKM or Kaga one as well, if I have enough time to waste.

>> No.11626009

>>11625876
Could it be combined fleet LOS?
Could that be the reason why fleet with a lots of CV get to the boss node easier since CV has high innate LOS?

>> No.11626013

>>11626009
What if LOS is actually affecting how often you hit towards the boss node?

I mean.. if we think about the meaning of the term itself...

>> No.11626027
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11626027

Next up is Kinugasa.

>> No.11626030

>>11626027
>SOON
Should've been "POI".

>> No.11626037
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11626037

And debunked.

>> No.11626044

>>11626037
Not debunked.
It still greatly effects the chance (for now).

>> No.11626052

>>11626044
14 samples says nothing about chances

>> No.11626064

>>11626037
>>11626052
One result isn't enough to prove or debunk anything, anyway.

>> No.11626069

>>11626064
depends on what you want to prove or debunk.
For random chances, it doesn't work, but for things like "you'll never go there if" or "you'll always go there if" 1 result is enough to prove it wrong.

>> No.11626070

>>11626013
Who knows? You might be right.
Could this be the reason why people with Tone class does so well at E-4?

>> No.11626079

>>11626070
Could test this out. Who are the top 6 with regards to having the highest LOS at the moment?

>> No.11626085

>>11626069
I was under the impression the question being asked is whether having high LOS gives a high chance of avoiding the diversion. In any case, I agree that one result can refute any suggestion that LOS completely guarantees a path to the boss.

>> No.11626099

>>11626079
2kongou 2tone isuzu yuudachi

>> No.11626100

>>11626085
>whether having high LOS gives a high chance of avoiding the diversion
If that is true, it would mean a higher level fleet has a better chance to reach the boss. I doubt this is the case.

>> No.11626114

Kongou made me disable sounds.

>> No.11626115

>>11625492
>AFK at the boss introduction screen to prevent regen
I thought they patched this or can it still be done?

>> No.11626117

>>11626099
Thanks, I just need another high level Tone class to cap her LOS first then.

>> No.11626125

>>11626115
It still works. I used it three times during the course of my E5.

>> No.11626128

>>11626114
I hate you too.
She's easily the most charismatic kancolle.

>> No.11626133

>>11626128
ヴァルハ

Thank god I finished crafting Sanshikis.

>> No.11626143

Are there any English guides like 2ch and futaba's infographics?

>> No.11626167

>>11626143
Infographic of what? Guide for what? Also, aren't 2chan and futaba the same channel?

>> No.11626168

>>11626143
Too much work when the jap ones / wiki suffice.

>> No.11626169
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11626169

I'm getting too old for this. I'll work on the rest some other night.

>> No.11626181

>>11626169
hんんっ
Thank you. I'll be warmly waiting for the upcoming ones as well.

>> No.11626191
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11626191

I gave up farming E5 actually. I did enough to take achtacht from 36 to 64 there, just to give you an idea. Getting rank B honestly isn't really worthwhile in terms of resources spent and the drops, while 2-3 returns are much better, and heck, getting A rank at boss is almost guaranteed, even without sparkles...

granted, I didn't really lose resources doing E5 with subs.

>> No.11626192

>>11626169
Good job. What font did you use for the text?

>> No.11626198

>>11626192
Bubble/box: Fold and Staple
SFX: Doujinshi, Letter O Matic, Ladylike
I just notice one of the SFX is of the wrong font, welp.

>> No.11626214

>>11626191
Why did you remodel the subs?

>> No.11626217

>>11626191
So no good drops?

>> No.11626224

What's the easiest way to sparkle ships? Run low level map?

>> No.11626232

>>11626191
>>11626214
>>11626217
No. Ooi and Hosho out of maybe 200 odd times and that's it. You get consistent B ranking. I can't confirm if you won't ever get good drops with B rank finish, but I can tell you that your payback from 2-3 all day every day is much better than E5.

Subs for E3 gets a little dicey at boss node btw. Maybe the min. setup to get A or S finish at E3 is to roll a bunch of high level DDs. I haven't tried that yet.

>> No.11626228

>>11626224
Have good exercise partners.

>> No.11626230

>>11626224
1-1. Or PVP match against solo ship.

>> No.11626231

>>11626224
hope for a nice admiral out there that'd leave a few destroyers for you to sparkle easily in pvp

>> No.11626244

>>11626169
need continuation.
now.

>> No.11626282

>>11626214
Well, I remodeled them because SSV will work for the expeditions, plus I need the extra hitting power and the evasion.

>> No.11626287
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11626287

https://github.com/Grabacr07/KanColleViewer

>> No.11626293

>>11626287
>https://github.com/Grabacr07/KanColleViewer
Works with Win 8.

It will run on windows 7, but there's some bugs with notifications such as completion of expeditions and building.

>> No.11626304

>>11626287
Coool. how do i get it to work?

>> No.11626307

>>11626282
What about repair time?
You can't trust that litte evasion boost.

>> No.11626313

>>11626307
It makes a difference imo. The luck increase is the most significant though, since the cut-in depends on it. Combat performance gain for achtacht is really quite something, and honestly, when you get to lvl 70+, you would put a bucket over Imuya when she goes orange, so I wouldn't worry too much about repair time beyond that kind of level.

>> No.11626319

>>11626287
What is this thing? And did the developer guys agree to this?

>> No.11626328

>>11626287
>https://github.com/Grabacr07/KanColleViewer
Anyone want to upload a compiled version for us plebs? It would be greatly appreciated. Or am I missing something?

>> No.11626331

>>11626287
>Windows 8
Yeah fuck that.

>> No.11626333

So I started reading this thread with an almost full health gauge on E-4 and now, after 1424 posts, I have only chipped off 1/4 of the bar. It's going to be a long night.

>> No.11626335

>>11626333
I got through E-4 in three and a half days. Best of luck, teitoku.

>> No.11626344

>>11626335
How do you manage the health bar? That's my biggest worry now. Before this, I was able to chip off an encounter worth of health but crits-trolling forced me to sortie ~10 times without any boss fights, thus the "almost full" gauge.

>> No.11626347

>>11626344
Not guy your replying to but I sat at boss screen since it freezes the health. I did this for like 4 days with no kill and eventually stopped or I was gonna kill myself and my ships with terrible rng. Just farming up now for another solid attempt for next week at this point.

>> No.11626350

>>11626347
>Not guy your replying to but I sat at boss screen since it freezes the health
I think I read somewhere on this thread that they fixed this? I am highly tempted to do this.

>> No.11626352

>>11626293
and no luck for XP i would bet.

>>11626344
>>11626347
they fixed that exploit in the last update. the current one would show empty bar, but when you finish that fight and go to the sortie screen it will have regenerated.

>> No.11626354

>>11626350
Some guy earlier finished his run that way post-patch, I think >>11625492

Test at your own risk though now, but should still work.

>> No.11626365

>>11626344
Same with >>11626347

Sat on the boss screen when I went to bed. I did this two days ago, so it should still work after maintenance, but it might be because I haven't cleared my cache and such.

Alternatively, I go for a boss run every three hours or so to ensure her hp bar stays zero while I grind and wait for my resource to fill up. Decided to just go with it in the end after I sparkled all my fleet, and it miraculously worked and my girls killed the boss before day battle.

>> No.11626371

>>11626287
How do I use this?

>> No.11626374

>>11626287
So does this change the window in the internet browser or can it work with the flash player extension?

>> No.11626416

What did you guys use as a support expedition ? DD/DD/Kaga/Akagi/Mutsu/Kirishima is pretty expensive.
Are CVL a viable alternative to CV ?

>> No.11626425

South west on to mid-boss after perfect S rank? What the fuck, RNG?

>> No.11626429

>>11626416
Yes, the wiki did say that CV and CVL are viable. And from the look of other people's videos, CVL is pretty popular for expedition.

>> No.11626498

So is the hard part of E-5 just surviving day combat with the boss, so you can actually put real damage on her at night, or is there something else to it?

It seems like I can make it to her easily enough, but I'm only doing around 100 damage per run, because I take too much damage during the day.

>> No.11626518

>>11626498
Sub anon here. That's the part that stomped me. I am unable to really get through the day phase without anyone going red... if they don't go red, I can win it. It pisses me off.

>> No.11626524

>>11626498

From my experience the trick is to get a lucky support expedition bombing run that will blap the Floating Fortress trash from the field AND somehow get your ships in orange to the night phase. Getting one of Princesses to red or completely out is a nice bonus.

With 5-6 night attacks the boss should die if you don't have terrible luck.

Currently agreed-upon support setup is two high firepower DDs, two gun-loaded BBs and two CVs stacked entirely with red planes.

>> No.11626528

>>11626498
Killing off the bottom 3 ships is the main goal of day combat on the boss, so you can focus down the real targets at night. Having a good support expedition can sometimes kill 1-2 of the weak escorts alone. KTKM/OOI pre-strikes are also very good at clearing out the trash mobs during day.

Do keep in mind damaging the enemy ships reduces their damage output towards you, and having shiny is extremely helpful.

>> No.11626590

Can someone confirm this - getting a penguin from crafting no longer returns resources but only development material.

>> No.11626598

>>11626590
I think there's still a bug where if you click through before the message finishes, it still consumes a development material. I haven't checked recently.

>> No.11626609

>>11626598
I'm more concerned about the fact that it makes crafting majorly harder since you can seriously fail instead of just getting a refund.

>> No.11626611

>>11626609
The daily quests are good enough for your daily crafting needs especially if you're worried for development tools.

>> No.11626628

>>11626590
It always did that.

>>11626598
It doesn't. It looks as though it did, but you get your development material back when you change screens.

>> No.11626645

>>11626628
>It always did that.
I'm pretty sure it only used to seem that way, but when you went back to the main screen it would all be added back to your resources.

>> No.11626648

Image taggers need to make up their mind between 艦隊これ and 艦隊これくしょん.

>> No.11626710

Wanted a second battleship to boost me through E-1. Got my second Hiei.

Back to the drawing board and Expedition 3.

>> No.11626737

Fucking hell.
I hate it so fucking much when you survive the battle without pretty much any damage, than that last fucking torpedo crits one of your girls into orange.

>> No.11626738

Farming resources with just one sub is hell. People deal with this shit?

>> No.11626751

>>11626737
I hate it more when it is the first damn node. The one time I pushed it, I really regretted it.

>> No.11626755

>>11626751
That's obviously what I meant. I want risk any of my daughters on 3 more nodes

>> No.11626756

>>11626738
i've been farming E-5 with my 3 subs for a Goya or second Imuya. apparently they're not such a common drop for me. but yeah it's pretty shit.

>> No.11626761

>>11626755
>won't

>> No.11626762

To those of you farming Hatsukaze on E-3, have you attempted to try the G node? Someone made note earlier that she drops there as well and I'm wondering if the rate would be the same, given you S-rank it. It would save a lot of time and resources if you manage to rig it to go there everything.

>>11626738

You're not really suppose to pay too much attention while doing it. Watch a movie or something.

>> No.11626772

>>11626755
Mine had promise. She dodged everything up until the double cut in.

>> No.11626810

Musashi remodels at 40, huh.

>> No.11626815

>>11626772

What's wrong with orange?

It's not like she can sink going into battle in orange. You can push on with this much damage, chances are she won't even get targeted until the boss.

>> No.11626818

>>11626498
>>11626524
Agreed for the most part, except that as long as the 3 floating blob thing is out of the picture. Killing off the boss is already 90% guaranteed.

Of course, as long as your ships are not heavily damaged, then all is good.

As for support, I actually 3 - 4 CVs with 2DDs to be better than BB-CV mixed support since the resource usage is slightly more cost effective. Besides the boss and their fleet is extremely sturdy so they can't really deal that much of damage.

Even so, it doesn't matter as long as whichever works the best for you.

>> No.11626830

>>11626815
That's what happened. She died to 1-4 when she went into the fight as orange.

>> No.11626838

>>11626737
I am beginning to suspect they cant sink at orange unless they have fatigue, did all of E-4/5 and none at orange ever used the damage controls.

>>11626818
i agree, CVx2/CVLx2/DDx2 is far more cost effective, 140/96/worthless bauxite instead of 200+/350+ on top of the already expensive main fleet that is eating 400 ammo every time it reaches the boss.

>>11626830
did she have fatigue? was the mamiya icon flashing before the sortie?

>> No.11626841

>>11626818

I think the main point of 2BBs is that it doesn't activate aerial type attack that, from what is speculated, gets impeded by the immense amount of airpower that particular battle has - everything but the boss carries elite planes.

Then, whatever works for you, I guess. I'm grateful for E-4 and E-5, those two stages taught me a quite a few important lessons about the game.

>> No.11626851

>>11626830

Did you go into night battle? As in, she went red during the day and you pushed on?

Because if not I simply call bullshit - or you looked wrong. What E-4 and E-5 taught me it's absolutely impossible for non-fatigued ships to get sunk when starting in orange.

>> No.11626852

>>11626838
Nope, she didn't have fatigue or any prior damage before the sortie. She took the orange damage node 1 and died to the boss node in 1-4 during the night phase.

Two cut ins that pushed close to 100 damage was more than what my lvl 9 destroyer could take.

>> No.11626853

Is it true you can be banned for having a foreign (non-Japanese) IP if you connect without a VPN?

>> No.11626858

>>11626851
Yes, I went into night battle.

>> No.11626863

>>11626852
night is a seperate phase, sinking protection stops when a phase ends, so if she went red in day and you went on it counts as her starting in red for night phase(ie no sinking protection)

>> No.11626866

>>11626863
No it doesn't. stop spouting shit.

>> No.11626867

>>11626858

That's your problem. Normally (with notable exception of E-5 boss stage - I don't count E-4 since transition there is forced and automatic) day and night battles are considered as separate battles - at least for purposes of damage and sinking.

Abort if you go into red during the day and you'll be perfectly safe.

>> No.11626873

>>11626863
Is it different in event maps? I went into night phase with red ship and she got targeted with multiple attacks and didn't sink.

>> No.11626877

friendly reminder that the moron who posts shit like "i wont play this game because it is made for superior japanjin people and it is unjust for me to play it" and spams atago is the faggot spreading the "keep going into night battles in red hp, nothing will happen" misinformation.

>> No.11626878

Damn, It's been like 40 sorties worth of E5, around 30 to the preboss node, and around 35% Boss node. this is getting frustrating, especially to bring sparkle again.

>> No.11626885

>>11626873

Assuming various reports are not trolling, then yes, event boss stages are a bit different in this regard.

I tend to err on the side of caution in this matter.

Only way to test it is to gather about 100 lvl1 destroyers, somehow get them all mid damaged and ram them into some hellish day/night battle gauntlet and see if they sink or not.

Something like in-game recreation of Unit 731.

>> No.11626889

So is it safe to assume that going into battle as orange is safe?
I'm not looking for "yes, it's 100% safe". I'm looking for people, who lost a ship during day battle while going into battle as orange AND no fatigue.

>> No.11626890

>>11626878

I didn't bother with sparkles for chip-down work. It does shit-all to protect you from cut-ins and crits in my opinion. Save it for boss-kill runs.

>> No.11626896

>>11626889

Do you want a Bigfoot steak and water from Fountain of Youth drank from the Holy Grail to wash it down?

Seriously though, orange is fine. I've ran 100 sorties in E-4 and E-5 pressing into orange and the only time I lost a DC (stopped using them in E-5) was when I forged on to boss node in E-4 with Yuudachi in red, since other ships were in pristine condition.

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