/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Reclining

I love Reimu

Touhou hasn't been good since IN.

/jp/ is militarizing.
Touhou needs more guns or tanks if it wants to stay relevant.

dead game

>kancolle more popular than touhou on /jp/
Hahaha, no.
/jp/ is married to Touhou, KC is just the hot girl that passed by the dinning couple.

Touhou needs to be WEAPONIZED.

Why the fuck do you care about touhou's popularity? The fans would be fans regardless of it's popularity and the people who make touhou fan content would still make it regardless of its popularity.

A browser game that you have to refresh your browser every five minutes for several hours just to play, in Moon....

No thanks. I really don't care how 'moe' it is.

I say we all get into Iron Chef.

Sakai-kun so kawaii. Dat live slimey animals phobia moe.

>>11569692
Oy bubba you done rekt dem nerds good

>>11569682
Actually, ever since Kancolle became big most of my favorite Touhou artists started drawing fanart for just that only because of its popularity. Seriously, fuck Kancolle.

>stop liking what I don't like

>>11569736
Kancolle is cool and all but it just doesn't have the appeal of Touhou with the fanon and such.

>>11569620
>did Double Dealing Character bomb that hard?
i see what you did there

>>11569620
Too busy with pointless /g/ techniloligy bullshit to post about 2hu on /jp/

>>11569736
Yeah, just because it's popular. It's impossible for them to like it since you don't.

>>11569636
>military 2hu
Yeah, there aren't enough Reisens.

>>11569786
Go be a Kancolle fanboy somewhere else.

>>11569814
It would be cool to see all the Touhou girls redesigned with classical military dress on.

>>11569822
I doubt ZUN would make something like that, since it goes against the theme of Touhou. Nothing is stopping you from making one though~

>>11569825
Well I didn't mean ZUN, or me. Someone who is good at art.

>>11569822
Just go to Danbooru and see Imperial Gensokyo pool or whatever the name is.

>>11569736
Do you feel betrayed?

I never got into it yet but I already fapped to this hot can-callgirl I think her name is shimakaze

It's just a /jp/, and now also /a/ and probably /v/ and /vg/ flavor game of the season. This isn't the first time some MMO gets big here, but a few months later becomes forgotten.
Remember that Russian(?) online game where /jp/bros were building a village? Kancolle is same I think.

yfw you found out that kancolle is actually a shitty browser game

>>11570718
look at this kancolle secondary

What's so good about kancolle? Is it fun? Or is just cut girl battleships?

>>11570722
Fap material.

>>11569740
Kancolle has a rapidly developing assload of fanon building up around it.

>>11569822
There's like a thousand pictures of Touhous dressed up in Nazi regalia.

>>11570722
And cute girl cruiser, destroyers, and aircraft carriers.

>>11570723
Wait, then why is it popular? Just fad of the session?

>>11570718
Just watch Arpeggio of Blue Steel and pretend it's the same thing.

東方はｆｉｎｉｓｈｅｄ！！

more like Kantai Erection

I don't even know what kancolle is.

>>11569647
Gosh dang, I hope so
Cause what with the anime coming out later it seems Kancolle's popularity will only keep going up up up
>>11569736
And it that ain't the case then there's at least one Shimakaze pic in their galleries

>>11570795
Wait, what happened at "F"?

>>11570804
The Great Depression

>>11570795
So, touhou is now 1.3 times popular than in was in 2005?

Also, who the fuck search for touhou nowadays?

Don't you guys always search for a specific character when searching 2hu pics?

Homewer, when I search for kancolle I never bother specifying characters.

>>11570842
I generally just search "touhou [thread_theme]".

>>11570795
>2009-2010
RIP in peace the good old days

>>11570905

It's alright.

Friendly reminder that popularity charts on google don't mean shit and aren't even relevant until 2 years after something's release. Pic related.

>>11570965

forgot image.

Last word-

Debate sign: Complete Nullification of Google Trend Argument

>>11569629
Touhou hasn't been good since Pc-98

>>11570978
woah watch out we have got a badass over here!

>>11570978
Touhou was good before Zun made it

Hopefully Kancolle will siphon off all of the tertiary scum

>>11571200
How will that be any better? They are still going to being posting images from a game they never played.

>>11571254
Judging from /jp/ kancolle threads, most people are playing it while the secondary thread barely has any replies.
Once kancolle gets its Marisa Stole The Precious Thing, I can see its fanon skyrocketing.

>>11569740
How the fuck would a bigger and shittier fanbase make Kancolle any better?

>>11569620
>only on /jp/
It won't be long before KanColle starts having more doujins made of it than 2hu
Your reign of games that are too hard for my poor motor skills is over.

If Touhou is over that's fine. It's had a good run, and given me much enjoyment. Kancolle, well I'm perfectly fine to remain a tertiary on that one.

>>11571790
IOSYS already made a Kancolle CD of some sort, although I haven't listened to it.

>>11570704
Kancolle is riding off character appeal, not gameplay that is worth a shit.

>>11571848
>Kancolle is riding off character appeal, not gameplay that is worth a shit.
you can't possibly be implying touhou was the opposite.

I'd like to get into kancolle but the game itself seems so boring. The only thing is the girls, but I'm not familiar with them since I don't play the game.

>>11571862
Well, he was comparing Kancolle to other MMOs, not Touhou.

Incidentally, there probably won't be a Marisa stole the Precious Thing for Kancolle, just because there's so much other dumb memetic shit running around already that any single one is unlikely to stand out these days. One of the reasons that took off like it did was because Nicovideo itself was already taking off around that time.

>>11571848
Both the Touhou shmups and the fighters have pretty bad gameplay. Except IaMP, that's actually pretty challenging.

The Touhou shmups are still better than pre-1999 arcades though. much harder too.

>>11571902
Hisoutensoku is way more alive than IaMP is, though.

>>11571874
Artistes are at their creative best during a new franchise infancy.
Cant wait for inevitable Iosys kancolle PV.
Making a new tsurupettan or a memetic PV isnt hard with the wealth of characters in their disposal.

I think a lot of people are playing Kancolle because they feel obligated to. You can't play Touhou all day every day for years without getting a little burnt out.

Same goes for Valkrie Crusade or whatever game the staff lets us talk about (I'm looking at you, mahjong fags)

>>11571967
because people love mashing a few buttons and thinking they're actually good at something.
Also MUH ROSTER

>>11572017
It's not like new players don't get completely shit on when they play against people who know what they're doing.

>>11572017
>mashing a few buttons and thinking they're actually good at something.

Sounds like my posting style

>>11572002
Why are you so angry?
Mahjong is /jp/

>>11572033
I'm not angry, I just question how many people actually enjoy these games and how many are just playing so they have something to talk about with their fellow /jp/sies.

>>11572002
Mahjong is nice, I enjoyed playing it back in the day with /jp/. Sadly, /jp/ has been overrun with what seems like /a/ people, and now most of the threads are unbearable. The "otaku games" threads are especially bad, things like VC or Kankore where people from /v/a/vg/ can't discuss them on their own boards so they just come here and bring their shitty posting styles with them, I guess mahjong is the same way.

>>11572040
I enjoy discussing the characters and the games but the actual threads are a bit hard to deal with.

>>11572041

This thread >>11546091 is truly 100% /jp/. You need wake up from your ideal /jp/ dream and realize it.

>>11569736
Every comiket is dominated by boring 2hu shit. I'm glad japan is finally getting over the shitty overdone franchise.

>>11569736
Is it really so surprising that artists who enjoy a series featuring a hundred girls with cribbed backstories might enjoy another series featuring a hundred girls with cribbed backstories?

I liked Kancolle before it was even popular on pixiv, let alone 4chan. I haven't even touched the game by the way.

>>11572071
You must have a really warped definition of what constitutes /jp/. Half of it is anime reaction images, for starters.

>>11572329
/jp/ used to use reaction images.

>>11572334
I think reaction images are cute. Here's me using one.

>>11572329
No other mahjong community posts like that besides /jp/. You must be new here.

>>11572336
Uhhhhhhh・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・fuck off?

Why are you deleting my posts...? Please stop it. Thanks in advance.

>>11572334
Not of that type, not in that amount, not that way. In fact, no, it really didn't.

>>11572338
In case you aren't just playing dumb - just check /a/ and their mahjong threads. Then check the archive for some thread from 2008 to early 2010 and compare.

>>11572564
/jp/ used to play mahjong with kog for fuck sake. you might want to participate in mahjong thread sometimes.
ironic post is the norm. are you phoz?

What is OP smoking? There are just a handful of Kancolle thread and it is more popular now?

A fun game about cute lolis shooting lasers at each other, where every girl can be exploited in favor of a different fetish, and with awesome music as well and with a huge fanbase and quality fanworks.

Such a thing can't be easily forgotten.

Touhou just will have to share a bit of artist manpower like it always does, that's it.

And btw I already rubbed one out to kancolle girls anyway.

>>11572588
Naturally, pretty much everyone around plays on 7447. Too bad it's completely irrelevant to the quality of discussion on /jp/.

Also, I might start participating again if I see a thread where people don't act like shits. In the current one, there's just nothing to reply to, and no-one I'd like to talk with.

>>11572636
I remember there's mahjong thread in /jp/. Too bad it's filled with newbs with 'why I can't ron/tsumo'. To the extent that I thought /jp/ players are gone.

By the way, m/a/hjong here. Come here at 7447, faggot.

>>11571862
Touhou is music + characters (+ gameplay).

Kancolle is just another "waifu" phone game like mobamas. It will die out soon.

>>11572829
>it will die out soon

People have been saying this about Touhou for a decade now.

>>11572829
>It will die out soon.
The number of official print works coming out soon is staggering.

>>11572900
And it's still alive, because Touhou is different from your flavour of the year social phone game.

>>11570795
why that Shimakaze girl is most popular of kancolle characters? Because her outfit is the sluttiest?

>>11573207
Shes a loli with bunny ribbons dude.

>>11572935
Touhou is one of the most social games there is. Just look at all this shit:
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/High_scores

"Dude I just broke the WR for Marisa-A ND-NB-NV!"
"Epic, see you at the club later?"

It's no different to sharing your Xbox achievements on Facebook.

>>11573207
She's the mascot character. Also a unique ship with good stats.

Also her outfit is amazingly slutty.

>>11573222
It's okay to blog about your achievements when they're literally the best in the world.

About time.

I don't even want to know what that kancolle is, fucking normals.

>>11569647
So now it's a weaponized /a/

>>11573317
But when I create an animu thread, J deletes it. Where is the logic in that?!

>>11573331
Janitor was raped by Moot as a child.

>>11573317
I have no fucking idea why I quoted that post

meant to quote >>11569636

>>11573331

It's the enemy, you gotta defeat it!

toho is what made jp, are you really gonna betray toho anon¡?

>>11573338
2hu is old and busted
Reitaisa11 is going to be the last reitaisai
You heard it here first.

>>11573346
Better times are coming.

Better times are finally reclining.

people got bored of this shit

nothing ever happens

>>11572336

I like this show, but this is /touhou/, use a more relevant image.

>>11573444
the touhou hype here is long gone
I could imagine not even half the people on /jp/ even liking touhou

>>11570725
>There's like a thousand pictures of Touhous dressed up in Nazi regalia.
How do I find pictures of my favorite touhou dressed as a nazi?

Kancolle is the new Touhou. Just see all those Touhou circles releasing Kancolle arrange albums at M3-32.

>>11573459
how is kancolle music?

>>11569620
>Kancolle more popular than 2hu
Have you counted the 2hu boards vs cute ships boards? Please come back when you do.

>>11573346
/jp/ confirmed for traitorous scum

i bet you faggots would betray 2d for 3d if there was the chance

you disgust me. im done with jp

>>11573315
I'm pretty sure "normals" don't care what KanColle is, don't know what it is, and aren't interested in it. Normals don't associate with drawn cartoon military girls, just like how they don't associate with drawn youkai girls.

>>11573526
>i bet you faggots would betray 2d for 3d if there was the chance
this isn't /a/ retard

Best pair

>>11573509
You mean threads?

wich kanmusu wud u fuk?

Kancolle exists because somebody wanted to fuck a super-dreadnought battleship but couldn't figure out how to make it work, and then he came up with a great idea.

>>11573549

I'm not very familiar with it but it's a nice change of pace from seeing the same old touhous on pixiv every day

>>11573546
Yeah, don't know why I said boards.

>>11573571
Alright then cut down the threads to those that have actual discussion going on instead of reposting the same 150 images from boorus.

>>11573447
That would be pretty hard considering that Touhou is the only core /jp/ topic left that's still thriving.

Unless you count all the shitposting crossboarding scum as "on /jp/", but that would be meaningless. They don't like anything this board is about.

>>11573546
I think he means boards. /40/, /55/...

>>11573626
Having 10 image spam and 20 shitposting threads with touhou images on top is hardly striving

>>11573630
As compared to having no threads whatsoever?

>>11573652
no shit is preferable to shit

>>11573549
>>11573566

I thought these were supposed to be based on real battle ships not UFOs or whatever the fuck.

>>11573656
You sound like our janitor overlord.

>>11573656
That's nice, but I'd rather browse 20 imagedumps and get 5 threads worth of discussion from them than browse nothing and get nothing.

Maybe you should follow up on your convictions and stop posting altogether. It's not like we're not contributing to shit with this metathread.

>>11573666
moot should just delete this place and be done with it

>>11569736
In the early months of KanColle I think most artists were just bandwagoning it (loads of Shimakaze and Atago art with no context or references) but in more recent months there's a lot more artists actually playing it and drawing their own favorite characters instead of just the most popular.

It makes me so happy when I see some artist draw their first KanColle pic and it's someone like Choukai (with commentary about how she's their secretary ship).

>>11573447
UFO pretty much killed Touhou for me; I held out long enough to play TD and 1cc'ed it then that was about it. These days about all I care for Touhou is checking for new Mystia pics and fapping to the occasional Remilia doujinshi.

Of course I've also nearly stopped playing KanColle too. Too much waiting for screens to load and battles to resolve for me to just sit there watching it, but if I turn off the sound and multitask then I can't hear my shipdaughters, when the voice acting is one of the biggest drawing points of the game. So now I spend more time on pixiv than actually playing.

>>11573672
what discussion? how bad tewi's anus smells like?

>>11573544
Don't you mean best quartet?

>>11573584
Well it can't be less than the one kancolle thread on /jp/ you know? or 2 if you count /a/'s kancolle thread too

But give it a few months and then the kancolle thread will be pretty much just like those touhou threads.

>>11573535
I only heard about normals playing that ,,game´´, so i assume it's normalscum only.

>>11573709
This ain't a "normal" thing, friend.

Never even heard of it.

>>11573709
>Kancolle
>Normal
Heh.

>>11573673
soon

ZUN walks by you at a con holding a Kankore daki, he looks at your deka fumo and calls you a piece of shit.

What do you do?

I don't get why Kancolle is so popular. Since when did people like navy stuff this much?

>>11573747
Probably because it became popular in Japan.

Like that cookie clicking shit.

>>11573721
There are lots of people with girlfriends or even kids (they aren't talking about the ship girls) posting in the Kancolle thread.

It wouldn't even be possible to create all these posts with only /jp/'s usual population so they have to be new posters who flooded this place since the thing became popular.

They are seriously killing this board right now if it doesn't disappear soon. And if it doesn't die out then the only option is to generate a shitstorm on /q/ and rebel against it.

>>11573751
>/q/
Are you a time travelling Otaku?

Damn, the attire of that Shimakaze girl is so vulgar.

>>11573677
>fapping to the occasional Remilia doujinshi.
You're not worth of fapping to Milady.

>>11573751
> generate a shitstorm on /q/
Good luck with that.

>>11573754
Oh my god, I only just noticed it was gone because I tried to ignore it for all the time.
Nice, now we don't have any options left.

>>11573751
Sure quite a few people from /a/ are posting in there now, since it got their attention. But you wanna say they are "normals"?

And what do girlfriends or kids have too do with being normal?

>>11573751
touhou is pretty damn fucking normal already
just look outside of /jp/

>>11573751
How is it killing this board exactly with its one thread?

>>11569620
>The rise of Kancolle
>Weaponized /a/

I SEE.

It's coming, the end of 2hu, prepare your asses!!

>>11573778
It was a couple years overdue anyway.

>>11573778
You wish, jannyboi.

>>11573769
By normal we usually mean "social in real life", which means they are terrible people by default.

The only nice people are quite and shy guys,

One thing I dislike about Kankore is the sexualization of it. With touhou, almost every character aside from Nue dresses very conservatively and for none of them the focus point is the fact that they are a whore with little clothes on. Then with Kankore, the main character and thing that has probably gotten 95% of the /a/ shits into the game is Shimakaze, because she wears a stupid outfit with her underwear exposed, and this isn't even considering the clothes that can be damaged.

I played it for the first few months, but when the majority of the english speaking community for it is more concerned with shimakazes vagina than with the game or IJN stuff, it kills the appeal for me.

>>11573925
> the majority of the english speaking community for it is more concerned with shimakazes vagina than with the game
Sounds just like Touhou.

>>11573934
The difference is that on /jp/ at least, you could get quality discussion of Touhou official material like the games, or the manga, or the music.

Kankore is transitioning to 95% discussion about which girl is "my waifu" because of the other boards coming here for it.

>>11573939
That's weird since every post I see in the game thread on the front page is about the game.

>>11573939
You're delusional. The thread here is 80% about the game. Whereas 80% of Touhou threads are imagedumps or shitposting threads with a touhou image. Have you never seen "wich 2hu fuk?" before?

>>11573939
I'm a WWII and politics otaku but I'm also aware that nobody else cares, so we never end up discussing it.

>>11573951
The Touhou threads are only bad because of shitposting. And at least imagedumps of new material are of general interest. No offense meant to the old dreadnoughts, but as someone said a dozen threads ago, "nobody cares about your Fusou."

>>11573966
I don't mind imagedump threads either, even though I don't care about Touhou. The point is posting about the girls rather than the "content" is definitely not a new thing, has nothing to do with /a/, and is not kankore specific. If anything, kankore is harder to get into for normals because it can't be patched.

>>11573977
>If anything, kankore is harder to get into for normals because it can't be patched.
Lol.

I am appalled that /jp/ is being used for its intended purpose instead of just shitposting.

>>11573994
/jp/'s intended purpose was a containment board for Touhou.

Sounds like something like a fascist otaku would like.
It's no surprise it's popular in Japan. They love weapons, killing, being nationalists and raping Chinese.

>>11574033
There are actually a lot of Chinese, Korean, and SEA race traitors playing this game.

>>11569620
>did Double Dealing Character bomb that hard?

It's the first touhou game I haven't been able to install no matter what I attempt, so in my case it's the point where the series jumped off a cliff.

Others claim they have no problems. Pisses me off.

>>11574045
This nerd STILL doesn't realize his new laptop is a Mac lmao

So are the enemies in this game meant to be aliens? The Wu class looks pretty alien to me.

>>11574098
Officially they pretend that they're the wraiths of fallen ships, but we all know that they're either aliens or Americans.

>>11574098
>>11574100
NANOMACHINES SON

>>11573737
y-you too

I know a girl who thinks Kancolle is kawaii as fuck and actually plays the game.

>>11574350
cool

>>11571862

Touhou games are okay. Nothing great, but still fun. Good music and the colorful danmaku patterns really are something.

Kancolle is raiding on girls and nothing else. Everything about the game itself is just trash. If they replaced girls with mecha or actual ships playing it would be a torture.

I really can't see Kancolle's popularity lasting even close as long as Touhou's.

>>11574100

Alien nanomachines changing sunken ships into monsters.

Anime will probably be similar to Arpeggio. Unless they are retarded and go SoL/harem route.

>>11574363
i don't even know where you come up with this shit. kancolle is popular because it's pokemon meets civilizations (neither of which have cute girls, but are very fun and popular anyway) with cute girls.

>>11574375

What? It's nothing like Pokemon.

>>11574384
You collect units and level them up and then send them out to battle in fleets of six. And if you want to optimize your team you get to deal with RNG fuckery around the clock.

The gameplay is even less inspired because you don't micromanage anything, but let's be honest, the gameplay of Pokemon is not particularly deep either. Not in PvE, anyway.

>>11574384
have you even played it?

I haven't tried this boatloli game yet because it only has jap ships. I want to see enterprise-chan and ark royal-tan.

>>11574375
>neither of which have cute girls

Pokemon has them, unless your definition of "cute girls" is different.

>>11574400
You'll never see them, Kancolle's popularity is two parts moe and one part latent Japanese nationalism.

>>11574415
They've discussed including foreign ships. I wasn't the biggest fan of the idea, mostly because at some point you have to deal with the fact that our navy totally crushed their navy and the kanmusu don't seem like they'll get along very well. In a much more serious way than the existing rivalries.

>>11574390

Pokemon offers a large world to explore. Kancolle is just a bunch of small and super simple maps. Where game decides which way your ships go.

Game also decides what your ships do in battle. And battles are so random that same node can get completely raped, just to completely rape you next time.

Crafting is completely random.

Repair system is so fucking retarded it looks like if it was made to make you not want to play.

I play Kancolle for almost two months now, and now that I have almost all the girls that I wanted I'm starting to see how horribly bad the game is.

>>11574433

We will probably see German ans Italian ships, not American ones.

And US navy was getting raped just as horribly at the start of the war. Worst defeats in the history of USN are against the japanese.

ACTIVATE THE MURASA

>>11574446
Sure, but Kancolle has more characters with actual characterization. They only have twenty lines a piece but it's still more than most Pokemon NPCs (and your Pokemon) get.

>I play Kancolle for almost two months now, and now that I have almost all the girls that I wanted I'm starting to see how horribly bad the game is.
Your real mistake was not realizing that the game was crap from the start.

>>11574458
"If I am told to fight regardless of the consequences, I shall run wild considerably for the first six months or a year, but I have utterly no confidence for the second and third years . . . I hope you will endeavor for avoidance of an American-Japanese war."

- Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, Combined Fleet Commander in Chief, October 1940.

>>11574446
You mean a game that's a step backwards for the genre it's in?

Gee, where have I seen that before...

>>11574473
Here is a dramatization of that

>>11574473

That's the point, it's all about the girls. Game itself is crap.

>>11574518
The game itself is just barely decent enough that you can kill some time with it and get some enjoyment out of it by pretending to be an admiral. It's not good by any means, but nobody thinks it is.

>>11574446

That's not even mentioning how shitty the online service itself is. I mean, if a company maintains an online game and realizes its servers are having issues, the first thing they do is upgrade existing servers or get new ones, not deliberately limit new registrations (I.E.--Potential Customers) via a crappy lottery system.

>>11574527
They did upgrade existing servers and/or get new ones, but it took time. They were expecting twenty thousand players and got one million.

>>11574533

That gives them all the more reason to invest in better/more servers. What kind of business would say "Okay. That's it, I think we've had enough customers!" after attracting a large userbase instead of taking advantage of it?

>>11574546
They didn't have very much capital on hand and Japan is shit for getting loans. Kancolle is currently losing money.

Lottery builds hype anyway.

>>11574546
They did. Can you not read or what?

>>11574546
you say it like they aren't working on doing exactly that. do you expect them to instantly expand their hardware setup exponentially?

>>11574552

There's no way around it. They've been making shitty business decisions this whole time.

>>11574560
>exponentially
This triggers the autism

>>11574561
And what have their shitty business decisions cost them? A lack of players?

>>11574568
what? see >>11574533

>>11574375
Kancolle is popular because of its historical context. Stuff like Space Battleship Yamato is popular because in its alternate retelling compare to WW2, she is actually useful and won them the war.
Same case here with kancolle. Now why it is popular with race traitors from china, corea, SEA and waito gaijins? This I will never know.

>>11574575
Exponential refers to how something changes with time. Something cannot instantaneously increase exponentially.

>>11574578
Military/alt history stuff does seem to do well (Strike Witches, GuP)

>>11574560

Maybe can't get it instantly, but most companies would have better sense than to deliberately limit customers when their online services experience technical issues. Most of the time, they make offers that encourage existing users to stay, like offering free DLC/microtransactions (See also: GTA Online Stimulus Package).

>>11574571

A lack of profit despite its perceived popularity is more like it. Stop acting so apologetic.

>>11574583
This is the most obviously and directly exploitative.

>>11574584
>A lack of profit despite its perceived popularity is more like it. Stop acting so apologetic.
I was looking for more of a cause and effect relationship. It's a free game. Most people don't pay.

>>11574583
Are there any SW games?

>>11574591

I was looking for more of a cause and effect relationship. It's a free game. Most people don't pay.

It's probably because they're not selling anything worth buying.

>>11574600
I don't understand what you're complaining about anymore. Your original complaint was that they should have bought more servers faster, but if you're now claiming that the product is inherently non-monetizable, then that would just be throwing money away faster.

>>11574600
It is a browser/portal game.
I am sure their main source of income from from advertisement.

>>11574610
They don't have ads.

I believe what they're trying to cash in with is spinoff products.

>>11574604

How about the fact that you can't even play the game, even after attempting to register?

The only reason why I mentioned anything about "monetization" is because you fucking pricks are trying to justify the limitations they've placed due to its lack of profits.

>>11574578

No. It's popular because of girls. The historical stuff is just a bonus.

>>11574623
One million players have managed to play the game after attempting to register. You might not be able to but not everyone is you; I don't know what the typical wait time is these days (probably gone up) but I got in after two tries a few months ago.

>you fucking pricks are trying to justify the limitations they've placed due to its lack of profits
Servers cost money, which they didn't have on hand at the time. That's not a "justification," that's a (speculation of) fact.

>>11574552

It is?

Well, no wonder really. I don't see why anyone would spend any money on it maybe except for docks and furniture fairies.

They really need to change some essential things about the game if they want to make money.

Anime can be a cashcow, but I have a feeling they will ruin it by making it a crappy harem.

>>11574631
not him, but i got in on the first day i tried, after about 30 minutes. that was 2.5 weeks ago.

>>11574640
People spent a ridiculous amount of money to buy resources and repair goddess.
Go read abgrund doujin about how she cleared the last event. She went at it for 10hours straight throwing money at it.

>>11574628
Lots of games have tons of girls that nobody cares about. Injecting the historical aspect gives people a reason to care in the first place, because it gives a place for their imagination to take root.

A girl bravely goes off to war with all flags flying to make a futile last stand, another dies in a freak accident despite being the pride of her nation, a third disobeys breaks battle lines and rushes out guns blazing to buy her sisters' lives with her own.

With no context, nobody would care about these unknown characters' sad stories. But since the historical context exists, people find that somehow, inexplicably, they're able to sympathize. Even if it certainly didn't happen anywhere near that way in real life.

Does /jp/ remember Sword Girls? No? That's right.

>>11574674
The question you should ask first is: does japan remember sword girls?

>>11574716
Did Japan ever care about sword girls?

This is not a rhetorical question, I really don't know how popular it was at its peak.

>>11574724
I don't even know if it was released in japanese.

>>11574661

That's a tiny minority though.

If they want to make money with this they should start selling premium accounts that give +50% everything or something.

>>11574753
A big reason it is so popular is that it isn't p2w. They're just going to make money off of tie ins and merchandise like they have been. If they want to make money without paying people off, they should make alternate costumes that you can buy.

>>11574795
*pissing people off

>>11574662
Here is a little tip for you: TRUE otaku don't want to see relations about relations to the real world because it's filled with shit and nothing but shit.

I think it's a good thing. I got bored of Touhou a long time ago. That said, I doubt we'll see KanColle last more than one or two years, unless they really push it with that anime and VITA game and keep making new girls.

I took a look at Kancolle just a bit ago, and I'm not exactly sure what about the game that has everyone on Pixiv/Twitter so enticed.

I don't see why people would jump on it by mere first impression. If I was newbie who took a glance at a gameplay video of a Touhou game for the first time, my jaw would probably drop at how the player can manage to dodge all those bullets on screen. If I was a newbie who took a glance at a Kancolle match for the first time, I wouldn't be terribly impressed--It looks like just another turn-based RPG.

They say one of the reasons it's popular because it doesn't put as much emphasis on having the player pay for content to have a reasonable chance to win compared to other "social" games, but that can't possibly be all there is to it--Since when are otaku become cheapass enough to be deterred by a pay-to-win model?

It does seem to have a large female cast, but what makes it that different compared to Touhou? It's got a large female cast too.

What is the deal with Kancolle anyhow? Sure, it looks kinda fun, but it doesn't seem that special compared to Touhou or other online social games, yet I get the impression that it's caused a lot of fans and doujin artists to suddenly and unilaterally jump ship from Touhou.

Am I missing something?

>>11575525
How many people do you think even know that Touhou is a bullet hell and not just an anime or some other im@s-like series with a lot of girls?

>>11575525
The fact that those girls are personification of IJN ships makes the players, especially Japanese ones, could relate to them a lot. Actually that's main reason I play this game; if this is just random girls, I absolutely won't play it.

I like a lot those Kancolle x Pacific War fanarts. That makes the game more meaningful.

>>11575525
It has a cast of high quality VA and a gotta collect them all addiction.
The combat mechanic is also more interesting compare to mobage like cinderella girls.

>>11575539
My brain is screwed a bit. "anthropomorphization" is better word choice.

>>11574467
But Murasa is now Kancolle, anon.

Gotta catch 'em all, dude.

>>11574753
I read somewhere some time ago that those sort of games' market strategy was not to make everyone buy small stuff every once in a while, but to rely on crazy people willing to spend thousands on their game. These people are usually women in their 30-40ies, but I don't think that holds true for Kantai Collection. But I'm sure a few hardcore otakus are willing to throw hundreds or thousands.

>>11575557
Please don't compare this flavor of the month pile of shit to a legendary franchise like Pokemon.

>>11575781
They're both played by autistic shitheads

>>11575525
>jump ship

A pun. I see.

>>11575544
Actually, personification is a better choice, I think. They're persons who represent ships, it's more precise.

>>11575525
The appeal of Kancolle is that it has a shitload of characters that are immediately sympathetic due to the fact that they've borrowed 90% of their backstory. See >>11574662. It adds a shitload of depth to characters who would otherwise be a sprite and twenty lines of generic characterization.

Touhou has somewhat similar, although since Touhou is more like one of ZUN's personal projects than anything else, it wasn't as blatantly exploitative in intention - Kaguya Houraisan isn't just some lady from the moon who won't die, she's Kaguya-hime from the Tale of the Bamboo Cutter. Suwako isn't just some god who hops like a frog, she's Moreyashin from Suwa, whose first legendary shrine maiden was Sanae Moriya.

If this comic featured original characters, or just generic characters from a netgame whose characters weren't the personifications of IJN warships, nobody would care about it. But with Kancolle they do, because they've borrowed depth from history.

>>11575844
>a shitload of characters that are immediately sympathetic due to the fact that they've borrowed 90% of their backstory.

Also see: Hetalia Axis Powers.

>>11575926
I finally understand why that was so popular.

>>11575926
Hetalia is only popular among the female demographic though.
Everyone seem to like kancolle even casual normalfags.

Bear in mind even though KanColle may be have an extreme popularity right now, it is still hard to tell. It could fade in a year or two, like most media hits.

>>11575958
/jp/ seems to hate it for some reason.

>>11575970
I've never seen any of it on /jp/. Don't know about other boards though. Probably because /jp/ consists of mostly male and hates yaoi.

>>11573447
Normals stopped liking Touhou after 2010. By 2012 it was cool to hate Touhou.

I'm not exactly sure if I'm doing the right thing answering the thread seriously because this seems like troll bait more if anything due to sheer amount of autism in it but here it goes anyways.

>Actually, ever since Kancolle became big most of my favorite Touhou artists started drawing fanart for just that only because of its popularity. Seriously, fuck Kancolle.
Congrats, now you've realized that those artists never drew Touhou because they liked it, they only did it because it was popular and now that Kancolle is more popular it was only natural for them to switch over.

>There are lots of people with girlfriends or even kids (they aren't talking about the ship girls) posting in the Kancolle thread.
Now you even made me check their thread, I'll give you a 5/10 for that, pretty good baiting tactic. Sadly, I can hardly even see normals in there, let alone anyone with children or girlfriends.

>They are seriously killing this board right now if it doesn't disappear soon.
Sorry, I don't even notice their threads as much as I notice Valkyrie Crusade threads being constantly bumped to the first page, would you care to elaborate how exactly are they killing the board while their whole fandom is being contained in one thread that usually just sits in the last pages not even being bumped?

Never played Kancolle but to me at least anything that gets /jp/ discussing non 2hu stuff is a great thing. Let them have their fun, /jp/ is boring when there's nothing but 2hu shitposts going on

Specially when those guys are polite enough to condense their threads.

I for one welcome our new battleship loli overlords.

It's over, ZUN is finished.
/jp/ no longer has a reason to exist.

>>11576126
thank god

Maybe it's going to motivate ZUN to make a good game with characters that are not boring as shit.

Seriously, SA was the last game with a good cast.

>>11574058
I installed it fine on my Macbook's Windows partition.

Touhou is shit anyway.

Why touhou /jp/?

>>11570795
>2009 was peak touhou
Ah, the memories.

I'd like it more if the design doesn't looked almost the same, uniforms with cannon accessories. And you have to be military otaku to really like it beyond the cute girls.

>>11576196
Maybe it'll motivate him to expand on the Seihou franchise, or create a new franchise with a completely fresh universe. Not saying that he should abandon Touhou, since this could be a parallel project that he spends some time on, but something fresh might be able to kickstart something special again amongst doujin circles, like Touhou did back in 2009.

>>11575784
So is Touhou.

>>11576271
2009 was when Cirno Day happened, of course it attracted a lot of people.

>>11576286
Glad we agree.

>>11576277
I wouldnt be surprised if ZUN is busy playing kancolle and neglecting touhou

>>11576126
>ZUN
>finished

lel'ing

Kancolle is a boring browser game made by some company. Its story is borrowed and it is riding on the coattails of Upotte and Girls und Panzer by taking the gimmick of both and applying it to IJN.

Touhou is a series of near-unplayable shumps made by an alcoholic computer programmer. Its story is borrowed and it rose to its current position of prominence through more than a decade of releases and fan participation.

I don't know about you but Kancolle feels to me like some Chef Boyardee scraped out of a can when compared to Touhou's farmer's market of authenticity. Depending on what the Kancolle fanbase does might make the game a bit less corporate-feeling though.

>>11578070

I'm waiting for Kancolle to get its Yukkuri equivalent

>>11578112

forgot pic

Does it have good music?

>>11580564
It's thematically appropriate and decently composed. Nothing particularly out of the ordinary for a game.

>>11575547
She betrays us, like how /jp/ betrays us

Look at that smug face

>double dealing character

>>11581047
And all your favorite 2hu artists too.

KanCore is the new Touhou.

test post

>>11569620
Truly dark days.

>>11585564
I am. It's baffling, but I think it will pass.

>>11578112
dunno... designs are a bit bland for abyuse

Honestly, if you follow the Touhou secondary scene at scene at all you should be throwing your hands at how inexplicably popular this shit is. Half my Pixiv feed jumped ships, or at least tagged along.

Which includes the OP artist, who is shit, and terrible, and you're a bad person if you like him.

>>11585564
The only choice is to join us anon.

>>11585564
Viral marketing. The game is shit, people only play it because it's "in"

>>11585564
>jumped ships
....hah

>>11585932
The popularity of touhou is just as weird considering most people don't actually play the games.

Fads are fads though. And it's nice to have different characters for artists to draw, I don't really get why you guys want them to keep drawing the same characters forever.

>>11585564
Which artists do you follow? I followed about 13 active ones and none of them drew Kancolle.

>>11585947
I don't. I think it's a waste of skill when talented artists draw fanart instead of coming up with their own stories and characters. But then again it's their skill and their choice. I know they need to draw something popular for exposure and all that.

>>11585955
Well, okay, it was less than half, mostly it's the fault of one guy filling my feed with Kancolle favorites. But rireba, ichimi, ringetsumon, kannu, kuronekone-ro, kagero, hikawa shou all did quite a bit of Kancolle and also satoukibi did one picture.

>>11585967
The world's loss is my gain since I find it really hard to care about one-shots. It's much more comfortable to pick a universe and sit in it.

Touhou has an ultimate "I win" card in the popularity department: A touhou anime.

If there was a touhou anime it would be the biggest thing ever.

Good thing I never got into 2hu. It's only for sexually frustrated manchildren.

http://dec.2chan.net/55/res/1918595.htm
Heh.

>>11587169
Ooooh! What've they got to say?

>>11587186

>>11587186
>Secondary back I bet you do not even need five plate

>>11587169
Too many posts, is /jp/ really that relevant there?

>>11585947
>most people don't actually play the games

Until I see some kind of statistic, I think this is a myth. The majority of people have at least played the games, I wouldn't be surprised if 75% of them or so have cleared them on normal.

>>11587169
So one retarded faggot says something stupid and then the japs suddenly feel like we all think like that one idiot, although OP's post doesn't mean all japs think like him.

>>11587206
depends who you're talking about. as far as the populace of /jp/ i would agree that most have played the games. if you're including all the secondaries from youtube, deviantart, and wherever else (being as they DO contribute to its popularity), then i highly doubt it.

>>11587197
>he doesn't need 5plate
The fuck does he dead lift? I would feel like god with 5plate.

>>11587212
I have only been on 4chan for my touhou discussion but other places I have seen, pooshlmer and shrinemaiden.org and they seem like they have played the games.

>>11586811
>touhou animje
It will never happen no matter how bad people want it. I don't want one though, imagine more people who don't play the games start getting into the fandom.

If kankore gets rid of the secondary scum then I like it. Also DDC is a pretty good game.

>>11586811
It would be the biggest thing ever, but it would be pretty shitty for the longterm health of the fandom.

Knowing ZUN's talent when it comes to finding the worst possible people to work with, an official Touhou anime would be produced by some no-name studio with no budget. It would have no plot to speak of since ZUN can't write plot(if he even decides to have any input in the first place), almost no danmaku because it's too expensive to animate and just live on the popularity of the SDM cast who will be the main focus of it.

ふたば、聞いてる？
質問がありますか？
外人はふたばに禁断だ

>ふたば、聞いてる？
>質問がありますか？
>外人はふたばに禁断だ
Say in English

>>11586811
>>11587255
you're pretty delusional if you think a touhou anime could work just on brand name alone

if it's shitty, it'll bomb, just like every other shitty adaptation or shitty s2 to a decent show

>>11587353
futaba, are you listening?
do you have any questions?
foreigners are prohibited from futaba

>>11587358
It could bro, all they would have to do is follow the story perfectly, get the danmaku right, and get the characters right as well. A touhou anime would print money if it was done right.

>No.11587360
anon
how do you think of kancolle and drawers of kancolle pictures
futaba asking

>>11587358
Why would it bomb? It has a built in audience, no real story/canon it could ruin, and mostly blank slate characters.

A collective fanbase won't have as fit of autism if gensokyo in the anime version is slightly off from their personal version.

Do Touhou fans not like Kancolle because they can't crossdress to cosplay as Shimakaze?

>>11587419
There isn't a single character I could cosplay in either kancolle or touhou. I curse you feminine looking anons.

いろいろな人々がいる

「にわか」と「人気だけもらいたい」と思て人がいるでもほんとどの人だけが艦これの人気がわからない

もちろん、たくさん艦これファンもいる

私は東方と艦これの両方がすきなので、pixivフィードが艦これのイラストされ始めたがほしい

私は日本語は苦手、すみません

>>11587383
and futaba says former touhou drawers now abandon Touhou and flood into kancolle
drawers are now looking down Touhou so woe befall them
its pathetic

>>11587448
futaba says thx to you

ありがとう、でもほんとは半数以上はGoogle Translate ;_;
でも私は長い間自習する

1919656
そんなことは、聞いたことなかった
ユーザードラマなんて、外国人はしってはいけない

外国東方ファンの世界と日本東方ファンの世界はおしなべて関係はない
少数の翻訳者はほんとどの作品連れ戻す
だから、通信は少し

>>11587206
played, yes, I would agree. Hell, I tried them out when I first came to /jp/, but only could beat the first 3 bosses or so on easy before I gave up and decided they werent for me.

But saying that most people have beaten them is a much stronger claim. And people seem to be interested in the secondary stuff for far longer than they are interested in the game, so even if they once played the games, they do not currently play them.

>>11587592
please just stop trying and post in english, you make pretty much 0 sense.

>>11587638
The English and Japanese Touhou communities are pretty much disconnected. A few translators bring most of the work to the West, so there's very little communication between artists and consumers. That's why when it comes to the artists, there's not so much drama and complaining.

誰か私の日本語がたしょう無意味と言った
外国人は日本人より正直だ
ともあれ、もう行かなければならない

最終思考

A lot of people really think Kancolle is a terrible browser game with uninteresting gameplay.

But they don't mind so much if an artist leaves, because they often think, "he wasn't a real fan anyway, so it's better that they're gone."

>>11587700
Do those stupid gooks think that you're married to the things you draw?

>>11587702
>not marrying your drawings

>Touhou needs to be WEAPONIZED.
>アメリカらしいと思った

Oh my, our dignified board culture is lost in their shoddy rice translation
But seriously fuck moot and his ``epic maymay XD''

>あいつら描いた絵と結婚してると思ってんのか？
「結婚してる」についてだが、結婚する相手は一人しかいないように、東方のキャラを描くと東方しか描けなくなるというような考えを指している

1919855
日曜日、誰もがネート

1919855
日曜日、誰もがニートです

>>11573925
>when the majority of the english speaking community for it is more concerned with shimakazes vagina than with the game or IJN stuff, it kills the appeal for me.
This is the problem I also had with Strike Witches. Good franchise, too unpure community.

>>11588327
>unpure
Sorry, I think that should be "impure" instead. orz

>>11587700
>A lot of people really think Kancolle is a terrible browser game with uninteresting gameplay.
Did they somehow miss the most popular and the biggest thread in /jp/?

>>11573925
You'd hate me. The only non-Touhou thing I have is a Shimakaze H work and the only interest I have in Kancolle is porn, I don't trust browser-based games.

Good thing this piece of shit thread is over the bump limit.

>>11588699
nope!

>>11573811
What if I am a quiet and shy guy who was approached by a carnivorous female? What now?

The thread screenshots they posted are of Kancore staff marketing it on futaba?

>>11588752
Identify her species, then act accordingly.

>>11588952
Flee?

>>11588957
Well, that's always a safe bet.

KanColle got popular because the company bribed some of the top-name dudes to draw fanart for them and pretend to like the series. Naturally, the smaller sheeples followed suit and everything snowballed from there. Truly the people who made the game are marketing genuis.

Until I see something disproving this, this is to be taken as factual and the sole explanation to its popularity.

You all do know that 2hu is an unsinkable ship right?

>>11589468
I think it is pokemon(Gotta catch'em all)+weaponized moe(cute ships beating aliens).

It is also easy to play, literally no talent is required. Historical backstory is not a significant factor but a nice extra.

If they imitate 2hu and produce good music to go along, it will be permanent. Not that it will replace 2hu.However, it will be the other thing than 2hu.

>>11589547
No, no, no, you don't get it. It's a corporate conspiracy.

>>11589547
>Historical backstory is not a significant factor but a nice extra.
And that's how you get wrong. See >>11575844

>>11589561
which 2hu has tinfoil hat?

>>11589573
But do you really think backstory is defining kanmusu's behaviour/personality?

I mean girls care about their sisters deeply but such compassion does not have to rely on historical reference. Shimakaze is lonely but this does not have to rely on historical reference.

It is a way of giving them some character traits, quite nice one too.However, this is not the only way of doing characterization.

I would like to stress I only said it is not a significant factor, I never said it is irrelevant or dismissed completely. The other factors I named are more dominant for its success I think.

>>11589627
Yes. Shigure has chronic PTSD, Abukuma is always afraid to Kitakami, Sendai loves night battle, etc. Even Shimakaze has her own story (she's the only Shimakaze-class built during WW2). A lot of lines from the girls have relevant historical references, and even when it's not mentioned in the game, those Japanese could always found it.

>>11589468

That bribe could've come in the form of an invitation to draw character portraits for the game since the artists themselves are desperate for exposure.

No monetary transaction required.

My favorite 2hu artist switches to Danganroppa but I don't complain.

>>11589547
>imitate 2hu
Haven't they done that already? just look at Kiso

C85 circle
>Touhou 2272 circles (C84: 2548)
>KanColle 1136 circles (C84: n/a)

>>11590923
Wow, that's a lot.