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zuiho a qtpie

Please start numbering your generals, kancolle guy. I'd like to know how many times we've been here before.

>>11565237
Please be ironic.

Why didn't they come with the fast ships only shit earlier? I've been leveling backup BBs to 50 for the easier event maps and none of them are kongos.

I have 8 Shigures.

I need help.

>>11565263
It's not too late for you to turn back.

>>11565256
Is that only for the last boss or all maps?

Zuihou is a cute girl. Would daughter twice. And maybe a third time.

>>11565266
I live this guy.

>>11565266
myfuture.jpg

All dem Harunas.
I respect the this guy's dedication and love.

Meanwhile...

The best one

The best in everything

Please stop playing this game.
Please stop hurting the cute ヲs

Someone say best girl?

Sex with Atago!

Wow, 43k pixiv images already?

Reminder that the Pacific is a graveyard of ships.

>>11565333
Or birthplace of Wo's?
;_;

landgrave nsshly

Fuck you captcha

Finally bypassed 3-2 with some help from the RNG goddess. Managed to win the first node with an A (no night battle), escaped the hell of 2nd node with a C (lots of misses everywhere) and continue to the boss with a Rank A with no casualties to my cute destroyers.

Got Hiei at the end as a drop.

>>11565360
At 3-2 preboss node. Was the general consensus that orange is ok to advance as long as no fatigue?

>>11565323
Yes, someone did actually.

>>11565360
Good job. Nice to see a clear that doesn't involve absurd level ships or emergency repairs.
Guess I'll start praying to the goddess.

>>11565371
I went on with Hibiki at orange and no fatigue. Gladly, the enemies missed on my other girls as well, and we began critting each other during the night. Inazuma ate a huge one but managed to stay orange until around 2 of the ships were remaining on the enemy side.

>>11565371
I risked the orange part, honestly. I did the run on a whim, and I never even expected to get to the boss since I've seen admirals who do this with ships levels higher than mine.

Anyway, I'll be back to doing dailies. My kids are now getting ice cream.

Take care, Admirals!

>>11565371
Same anon here. Both my hibiki kai and yuudachi kai 2 ended up eating crits that put them into red before night battle yet again. I give up trying to clear 3-2 until after the event.

>>11565411
guess I just got lucky with RNG. Good luck on your next attempt, Admiral.
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In case someone asks, the akatsukis are at max armor and equipped with +6 turbs.

>>11565397
I lost a Lvl34 Shigure just now doing this thing. I thought that it'd be fine going into it, but orange turned red and then she died to torp.

>>11565426
Oh god...
That broke my heart.
Did you manage to break through 3-2, though?

>>11565426
I'm... sorry. Well, at least I'll never continue when one of my girls is orange...

>>11565426
My condolences, admiral.

See, this is the sort of thing that drives me to do 2-4 with level 50 ships, run at 4-4 with a 4BB2CV team until the compass yields and put emergency repairs on all ships. No reward is too great to justify risking the lives of your daughters.

Stuck on 4-3 for 2 weeks now, never had a shot at the boss node yet. Maybe I should just get some CAs trained to have a higher chance, but then I'd have to throw out the carriers out of my strike group...
I really hate the map ship requirements.

>>11565443
sometimes risking orange may prove fatal... but things do get fucked up one way or another. Some oranges survive that salvo of torps and live for another day. The others however...

;_;

>>11565426
>>11565443
>>11565440
No. It failed. Hibiki went to red during day fight so I had to pull out. Can't take that risk.

Right now I'm training an Isuzu and I've been meaning to ask - how does she Kai 2 fare in battle?

>>11565474
As you'd expect a CL to do in a battle; OK, but pales in comparison to your BBs, CVs, and KTKMs. Against subs though, she's the queen.

are there any weird requirements for 3-3?

>>11565529
Reading the wiki is one.

Anyone knows anything about modernization values of 2nd remodel of Shigure?

Wiki does not say anything about it.

First I get Mutsu from 4-4 boss and now this. I guess it's my lucky day.
Now if only I could craft some 46cm to adequately equip them... trying to get them for two weeks already and all I get are penguins and 12,7cm AA guns.

>>11565561
atwiki has a stats chart for all ships.

>>11565561
Look harder. It's all there.

>>11565568
>>11565578
>http://www56.atwiki.jp/kancolle/pages/47.html

2nd remodel part is empty.

>>11565561
Y-you're not looking to have someone else EAT Shigure are you? Monster.

>>11565611
Yes.

>>11565561
>>11565608
My bad, misunderstood your question.

>>11565467
>>11565426
It's as if RNG wishes to give me a chance to atone for what I've done. I just got another Shigure from 1-1.

Thank you, based RNG, thank you.

How are you supposed to powerlevel DDs on 3-2 or 4-1/4? I've been doing somewhat OK with 3-2, but orange fatigue after every battle gets me to like 1 battle every 20 min.

4-1 first node wrecks my DDs, and even if I put less DDs to fix that up, the subs in the next node tear up my other ships enough to make it a tactical loss.

>>11565645
I don't really powerlevel. i level, but I have two teams doing the leveling and I also have 2-3 sub runs to attend to.

>>11565628
Well, the question could have been phrased better.

>>11565645
Use last formation, 4-1 subs don't wreck anything

>>11565645
4-1 subs are a joke, the hard part of 4-1 is the first node and the battleship nodes

>>11565645
Best to split your DDs into two teams and add stronger ships to babysit them.

>>11565658
last formation is the strongest against subs btw.

>>11565665
I loathe the first node of 4-1-A. if it wasn't for that, I'd have my DDs there all day every day... cause I hate how that my BB always get dinged up a little over that node.

Guy that's been getting Haruna with Haruna at 3-3, reporting that Haruna just got another Haruna today, bringing the total to 4.

First run through 4-1 was a clear, and the boss even dropped Hiei, unlocking my 4th fleet. Today was a good day already.

Finally got a 10+ turbine, today was also a good day.

>>11565695
I got a +6 turbine and 2x 41cm, as well as an imuya by craft. All in all... pretty ok.

Very convinced that the RNG is only psuedo-random and has some streaky properties. Just got 3 turbines (2x +10) and a 46cm in 7 crafts.

Enough of these "I got a thing" posts already.

Finally got a naka today, today was a good day.

Passed the battleship node of 3-2 with only Hibiki taking 2 damage, just to get sent north... I will never get that lucky again, will I?

>>11565703
Real randomness has streaky properties.

>>11565698
But i just got penguins from crafting today

Finally got Zuikaku after 6 tries, so much work.

>>11565706
Guy that lost Shigure here. I had this happen to me twice yesterday.

look at all these babbys thinkin they got the best thing

Get yourself a Musashi next weekend, then you'll deserve attention.

>>11565719
But i dont like musashi or care about musashi, i only want the other ships.
Especially I-19

>>11565707
True, guess I'm just getting excited after two weeks of no turbines.

>>11565719
Getting Musashi and Yamato?
Be a dick and put them over practice.

>>11565698
The best way to get people to do something is to tell them not to do it.

>>11565714

Which recipe did you use?

>>11565733
You're a dick anon

>>11565719
We've had these threads for long enough now, if you still aren't prepped for Musashi you should really just stop playing. It sure as hell doesn't deserve praise.

>>11565725
Best practice team :

Lv1 random ship
Lv1 random ship
Lv99 Goya
Lv99 Imuya
Lv99 Yamato
Lv99 Musashi

Stockpiling resources beyond the regeneration cap is inefficient and all admirals are advised to spend the resources on enhancing your kanmusu's abilities instead.

A message from the Admiralty.

>>11565733
and they send a sub against you and auto win.

Fuck, akagi gets crit to orange at the second to last node of 2-4. I'm never going to beat this am I.

>>11565743
Yeah, you might as well quit playing now.

>>11565744
Apparently. I would think I'm high enough level by now.

>>11565742
a fairer team:
Lv99 Isuzu
Lv99 SlavDD
Lv99 Goya
Lv99 Imuya
Lv99 Musashi
Lv99 Yamato

>>11565747
That's free exp.

Why don't you kids like the Mutsu?

>>11565751
Cause magazine explosion

>>11565751
Too unlucky, rare and expensive for me

>>11565751
Who the HELL doesn't like her

>>11565758
Don't bully Mutsu though...

The RNG finally let me get to the boss node of 2-4 after a week of trying, only for me to be completely unable to do any damage. I took it to the night battle in hope of a lucky break, but that ended about as well as you might expect.

How much more leveling do I need to do? I breezed through all the nodes before the boss, and went into the fight with only a single girl having light damage.

This is kind of cute.

>>11565751
Because I have 4 of her and I've been trying to craft a Nagato, goddamnit.

>>11565689
I got my Haruna just before I went to bed, bringing my BB total up to 4. She'll carry me to victory over 2-4.

>>11565767
Get rid of that useless sub for one.

>>11565767
Letting Goya solo it would be the easiest way.

God damn it. I've gotten 2 Mutsu's and 2 Nagato's in the last two days and still no Suzuya and Kumano.

>>11565776
>useless
But she draws fire from all the destroyers and cruisers leading up to the boss. Even if she doesn't do much damage, she saves the rest of the fleet from getting hit.

>>11565801
the destroyers and cruisers do like 3 damage when they hit if you use the double bar or anti sub formation, most of the damage is done by CA/BB or CVs, which ignore the sub anyways.

>>11565767
Get more firepower, Admiral. Stack 41cm and 46cm guns. My BBs were sitting at 129, 149, and 161. I'd also drop Goya and add another BB or carrier. You shouldn't need an sub tank since enemy BBs are the greatest threats. CVs and BBs have enough HP and armor to tank earlier nodes.

>>11565733
lvl 1 random ship
lvl 1 I-19
Lv99 Goya
Lv99 Imuya
Lv99 Yamato
Lv99 Musashi

>>11565826
You dont really need all that overkill, i got past 2-4 easily using this team and going into night battle.

All that damage was from the boss node, entered the battle with everyone in green except the flagship that was in orange.

>>11565851
You just got very lucky.

Ooi crit a Nagato to half health in artillery. She does not discriminate.

>>11565826
It'll take some leveling, but this is probably the best I've got then

>>11565871
Not really, 2-4 is not that hard.
The real thing is at 3-2 and 4-4

>>11565897
It's easy to say that after beating it anon.

>>11565897
You mean 3-4 and 5-3.

>>11565923
Those too, it just starts there

This has been bugging for a while: Why do Ka-class submarines wear these respirators? It's not like they need air to survive, hell, it's doubtful that they even need to breathe.

What happens when you deprive a Ka-class of her mask? Does she flail around in panic until she notices that she's the tortured soul of a long-sunken ship and can survive just fine in the ocean? Or maybe they are entirely aquatic and need their respirators to function out of water?

Or is it to hide that their lower jaws are dislocated or absent? Maybe the reason they're holding that Ro-class-looking critter with them is that the thing is actually what remains of their mouth, and they have to speak out of it. That would be rather cute. Or perhaps it's just a fashion statement and redundant respiratory gear are the in thing to wear for restless ocean-bound ghosts.

>>11566077
Maybe it's because respirators fit the underwater submarine theme?

>>11566077
>Or is it to hide that their lower jaws are dislocated or absent?
I'm thinking something along the lines of Darth Vader. Half of the people in this thread that insists that Wo-class is cute don't realize that they underwent something akin to being harvested by BETAs and turned into one of them.

What is the recipe for mini sub?

>>11565897
3-2 is overrated.
It is like you guys dont even trust your DDs. It is perfectly fine to go into night battle with orange when your DDs can blast them to obvilion with torpedos before any of them can shoot you.

>>11566083
I'd go with that if "live" subdaughters had respirators, but since they only seem to get them after sinking, I'm thinking that there's some war princess submarine out there who is pretty big on the gas mask fetish. I mean, it's not like the Deep Sea Armada has a dress code to obey. If the biggest, baddest submarine out there wants to dress her underlings in some respirator-and-thong outfit and molest them in between sorties, what are they going to do about it?

>>11566101
For Wo-class I'm inclined to think that the victim carrier just gets her brain replaced by her hat. It makes a fair amount of sense, and also handily explains why the Wo-class only ever repeats her name in most of her depictions.

>>11566124

>>11565266
Everyone always fixates on all the Harunas (most of which are low level anyway), but no one seems to notice that he also has level 90 AND level 88 Zuihous.

>>11565360
Congrats, anon. My DD fleet is actually around the same level, maybe I should try to go for it. Do you equip them with turbines?

8 Imuya and 0 Goya. Who'd thought that Goya would be harder to get than Hiryuu, whom I got after about 8 or 9 Souryuu.

>>11566208
Who'd have thought*

>>11566208
Getting goya was horrible, it took a lot of patience, time and resources.
Now that i finally got her, im trying to get kumano now with no luck.

I wish i could try to get her with a cheaper recipe, the BB recipe is too expensive for me.

>>11566208
I got Goya way before I got Imuya, and Hiryuu before Soryuu. Now I'm looking for Mutsu. RNG sure works in a weird way.

>>11566101
Well yeah, because wo class is pretty cute.

I hope she gets rescued in the anime

Hey guys. I just started Kancolle few days ago, and I'm level 10 at the moment on 2-1.
At this point, what kind of ship should I be trying to craft? I'm a newb, so I have no idea what kind of build I should be going for.

>>11566229
Read the wiki and dont be retarded.
That's all

>>11566208
12 250/30/200/30 builds today and 3 of them were Shimakaze, with the last 2 being back-to-back. Argh.

>>11566215
Yeah, trying to get Kumano or Suzuya was a pain for me as well as I had all the possible kanmusu from that recipe other than the two.

>>11566218
Indeed it does.

>>11566231
aaand 9th Imuya. I should probably stop shipbuilding.

>>11566231
>>11566245
But I've had Suzuya (drop) since level 8 and Goya (craft) since level 15. Took me two tries to craft Goya though.

I'll take Kinu pose over this.

>>11566254
> two tries
How lucky. It took me more than sixty.

>>11566245
Lay it off for a while, anon.

>>11566245
Time for curry.

>>11565387
It's actually quite easy to do that. I cleared 3-2 with a lv32-33 team with no repairs or turbines, just plain ol' sparkles.

>>11566231
These rare destroyer recipe is really killing me. 3weeks into the game, 3imuya,2goya,2shimakaze and still no yukikaze.
I wonder if I should just farm 2-4 boss for it

How do you guys even get to node G on 4-3? I did 20 runs and I only landed once but I had to go to J-F-K-G but Wo just critted 4 of my ships. This is the first time I want to blow up the compass so bad, its not even the boss node.

>>11566353
Put 2 CAs for F to G

>>11566353
Different anon but i also have a question about 4-3, what do i have to add to my fleet to make it so it always sends me to the sub nodes?
I remember some anon mentioned it on a previous thread but i could not find it in the wiki and wanted to ask here.

>>11566359
http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C0%BE%CA%FD%B3%A4%B0%E8

>>11566205
Late reply. Terribly sorry.
Yes I did, except for Shimakaze and Yukikaze.

>>11566372
I meant the english wiki, I cant use the japanese ones because I cant read moon.

What...what's going on?

>>11566384
>desu
>poi
>nano desu
Someone odd made it in as well.

>>11566384
Their love for Kongou knows no bounds

>>11566390
So it's apparently infectious?

Yay 2-4 clear.

>>11566398
I love these 2-4 fleet that doesn't have crafted funky ships.
Congrats anon.

Suzuya's damn hot. Especially her damaged appearance after remodel. Mm..

>>11566373
No worries, and thanks. I'll try crafting more turbines before going, then.

前回のメンテ後、【通常海域での基本ドロップ率】が意図せず向上してしまっている症状が発生しているのですが、次回メンテまで現状のままとさせて頂きます。次回メンテ時のアプデで修正される予定です(レア艦娘のドロップ率には変化ありません)。
They will lower the map drop chance in the next update ?

>>11566393
Probably. It's better than the last time I saw one guy dominate the entire leaderboard and make one giant ASCII kaomoji. Wish i took a screenshot of that.

>>11566450
Going in 2-4 with this, 35.6cm and type97 planes.
Wish me luck.

>>11566474
The last patch made the basic drop rate higher unintentionally. So they'll fix it with next patch.
Chance of rares hasn't been affected and stay same.

>>11566398
>T-level 53, level 40+ fleet
Cautious teitoku, or did compass-chan have it in for you? Either way, congrats.
Don't forget to feed your Akagi, she deserves it.

After going through all my resources that I made last week and weeklies, I've finally got a Suzuya. In the process, I got 2 Nagato's and 2 Mutsu's and an intense hatred of Myouko and Takao class.

>>11566564
Them 01:25:00 and 01:20:00 timers.

>>11566619
Dont forget the one hour timers, i dont want to see a one hour timer ever again.

>>11566564
>hatred of Myouko and Takao class
My brother.

60950 coins. I wonder if I can make it in time for Nagato.

>>11566564
It only made me hate Mogami even more

Teitoku that's been training Haruna here again. Haruna's count of getting Haruna is now at 5. What is this, Haruna?

>>11566735
Kongou has netted me 20 Kongou's over 2 days. 5 is nothing.

>>11566735
I lost count of how many kongou class ships i got from drops/craft, i just use them as tasty ship food now.

>>11566720
It's going away after the event. Anyway, you can easily make 3-4k coins a day just spamming the bauxite expedition.

>>11566720
But.. but what if something BETTER comes up after they remove the Nagato model?

>>11566792
Mutsu model and it randomly catches fire if you use it on your office.

>>11566792
Yamato model next, with air conditioning.

>>11566792

>>11566799
>>11566806
From reading the wiki, it is hilarious how they built all these xbawk huge battleships that all sunk before they could do anything.

>>11566806
Air conditioning and it can make icecream!

>>11566792
Wo-class model so that we can finally know if the abyss fleet is American or not.

>>11566851
Considering the nips are using metric units while the Wo-class are all using imperial units, the implication is pretty obvious.
Who else in the world uses imperial unit?

>>11566885
The brits

>>11566885

It's the standard for naval artillery.

>>11565697

Care to share your recipe? Or it is the same as the wiki? I've already tried 20 times and no luck.

>>11566900
>>11566898
The Brits wrote the book on line of battle warfare, and hell, they defined what a navy was all about ever since Trafalgar.

>>11566721
I don't know, Tone class is also a bummer. Well, at least Tone class is good for modernization.

What chances do I have at getting E4 done? Currently sitting on 320 buckets, will probably hit 400 until the event starts.

>>11567063
2-3 Sub runner spotted.

You will fail the event because of mistreatment to your dear submarines.

>>11567065
What makes you say that? I'm actually grinding 3-2-1.
I only had I-158 and I accidentally lost her in 3-2-1 last node

>>11567063
That's good enough but don't think that they'll let you run around until E-4 with whatever you want.
I hope your DD, CL, CA are ready too.

>>11567085
You're a horrible person and will still fail because of sub mistreatment

>>11567098
I'm pretty much ready on everything except for CA... If the time comes, I'll just suicide run low level CA's to do it.

>>11567085
>lost her
Just delete your account. I hope E4 requires a high lvl sub to be cleared so that you will fail.

>>11567105
I actually do hope the event requires subs, i want to have some fun with them and add them to my fleet to do more than just act as some sort or shield for the other ships.

I feel bad about that my Imuya is Lvl95 while the rest of my forces aren't really averaging at 50...

but it's just too much fun to use Imuya! 2-3 or 3-2, Imuya/Goya will cover it all!

>>11567116
How's your win/lose ratio?

>>11567118
88% win ratio, about 3400 battles by now.

>>11567116
>fun
I think it's very unfun to have to rely on submarines so much but they're so effective that you can hardly justify not using them once you get them.
I wish they had handled submarines differently, but I guess I shouldn't expect anything other than cute girls.

>>11567116
How do you deal with repair time?
I have stop using my high lvl subs as tank and only use it to run 2-3. Been using lvl1 imuya as tank in the meantime.

>>11567116
How do you deal with repair time?
I have stop using my high lvl subs as tank and only use it to run 2-3. Been using lvl1 imuya as tank in the meantime.

>【11/1(金)】メンテナンス明けと同時に「艦これ」秋イベント開催如何に関わらず、ある戦艦姉妹の長女のさらなる改装(改造)も実装予定です。こちらもお楽しみに！
So it's Kongou?

>>11567174
Probably. It seems like they were implying more than 1 sister and everyone else is a pair

>>11567174
or Fusou.
But it's probably Kongou.
That said, having my highest level BB sent back to 2 star just at the start of an event it's not cool. Not cool at all.

>>11567183
Just feed her your spare BBs
I bet it is going to be at least a lvl70 remodel

>>11567183
You don't need to remodel her immediately, you know. And just prepare a bunch of ships to feed to her before Nov 1.

>>11567174
And then it's suddenly Fusou and everyone flips out because they didn't bother leveling her.

>>11567191
Doesn't matter, people will probably refuse to level her because they insist that she's ugly.

>>11567191
I doub't I would bother leveling her if that was the case.

>>11567196
Don't get why people are calling her ugly. The only ones I found unsightly, to me, where the Myoukou-class, even Haguro.

>>11567197
To each their own.

>>11567196
The only person who thinks she's ugly is that one guy spamming it.

>>11567199
>>11567201
Probably because they think that Fusou (and Yamashiro) is boring besides the unlucky schtick and the siscon thing Yamashiro does.

>ふー。これから明後日収録の新しい戦艦娘改二の時報シナリオ等を書きます。まず、落ち着かないと……。【11/1(金)】メンテナンス明けと同時に「艦これ」秋イベント開催如何に関わらず、ある戦艦姉妹の長女のさらなる改装(改造)も実装予定です。こちらもお楽しみに！

>ある戦艦姉妹の長女

Welp, that settles it. My guess is since this is likely to be the first in a series, we're talking Kongou. Can anyone who can moon better let us know if 長女 can refer to an elder sister in a pair or only the eldest sister of three or more siblings?

>>11567208
Only the eldest daughter in a family.

>>11567199
Not that spammer but seriously not only are they pale and creepy like a ghost even their low volume coarse voice is terrifying. At least the Ise sisters are actually cute if you took off their armors.

>>11567210
Oh, okay. I deleted my post because I slowpoke'd, but thanks for answering the language question.

>>11567208
My Kongou is still at lv1. Fuck this shit.

>>11567211
>pale
>creepy
>ghost
I think it got to do with the fact that they are technically the oldest ships in-game.

>>11567211
Thousands of Naka upon you. Take off their bulky backturrets and strange head accessory, and they become best BBs.10/10 would take their hand and guide them to Leyte Gulf.

>>11567219
Correction. Kongou is, but she's practically a foreign ship (and Fusou is a domestic design).

>>11567220
Blame those pagoda hats.

>>11567211
Pale? Alright, I'll give you that since the skin tone is kinda on par with Kongou sisters as well.

But creepy like a ghost? How. Do elaborate.

>>11567224
Just look at their card color tone and compare to kongou.
The fusous are like straight out of the graveyard

>>11567232
So Geishas came straight out of the graveyard to you as well?

Just because they have black hair, red eyes and a paler skin doesn't really lead to the image of them coming out of the graveyards. Kongou looks like a Westerner straight out of the graveyard if that's the case.

>>11567232
>>11567233
I think they are pretty and I wish to use them as my main BBs but they are both subpar compared to other BBs.

The main problem with Fusous is their armaments look like giant shoulder pads. Well, and Yamashiro's voice is annoying.

I'd rather level a Fusou than an old lady Hyuuga.

If the RNG Goddess pays attention to these threads, may I have a Shimakaze?

;_;

>>11567211
I'll rip your fucking face off.

>>11567241
>their armaments look like giant shoulder pads
So does the pauldrons on the Space Marines.

>Well, and Yamashiro's voice is annoying.
If you don't find her MVP line cute then I don't know what to say. She's one of those characters that you don't like at first, but eventually warm up to because "she's pretty cute".

>>11567260
Yes, pauldrons are shoulder pads. More news at eleven.

>>11567260
>The shoulder pads on Space Marines look like shoulder pads.

I like the sisters, but the giant turrets and bits at head level look ridiculous.

>>11567260
>>11567263
>>11567267

>>11567260
Her MVP line is one of most amusing lines.
>"Eh, I'm the MVP? No way, that's a lie...really? Nee-sama, did you see that?"
I wish I get mentioned by her ;_;

なのですよ！

Public reminder that there's a special hell just for people who idle using submarines with maxed armor.

>>11567211
I don't see anything wrong with pale skin and wispy voices. If anything it's highly erotic.

Fuso-class is perfect as it is.

>>11567333
Since I'm only doing expedition farming and no sortie, I just put highest level ships. Which means, Kaga and Akagi full-green.

Speaking of that, I heard not only first ship, but also second ship's level that affects PVP exp points. Does that mean now the recommendation is two ships instead of one?

>>11567333
All the admirals my level (20~23) seem to be running a horrific mishmash of level 1-30 ships. I can't imagine how they feel about fighting level 20-45 2 CV 4 BB team.

>>11567352
CV is pretty much useless in PVP. Just put in all 6BBs and auto win unless you are up against a single sub.

>>11567356
My problem is actually that I only have 4 BBs. I put kitaooi in for actual fighting.

>>11567361
Actually if you just want to win and not gain experience, just send in 2subs and auto win.

Why is Akigumo's face so exploitable?
Why is Kinu's pose is so weird?
Why does Imuya somehow fit to any Kantoku's works?
I just can't see logic behind those.

>>11567368
>Why is Kinu's pose is so weird?
She's gonna smack your shit up boy.

>>11567368
Some things are not meant to be questioned.

Sit back and enjoy shipdaughters in all their natural diversity.

>>11567376
>>11567368
It is Akari doing the mugi pose

>>11567368
>Why does Imuya somehow fit to any Kantoku's works?
Enlighten me.

>>11567376
I seriously wonder what the fuck is it with those arm-mounted cannons.

RNG hath blessed me and cursed me.

In return for getting Sendai extremely late into the game, I got both Shimakaze and Yukikaze before even hitting Level 22.

M3-32 Kancolle albums

(M3-32)(同人音楽)(艦これ)[趣味工房にんじんわいん] ファミコンですね！ 提督！！ (tta+cue).rar
https://mega.co.nz/#!rRdVWA4J!Z8-mx0vP3FyBe20yOLCvl33pWX0iQOL1uf2qK0PdBhI

(M3-32)(同人音楽)(艦これ)[イオシス] 鎮守府に着任したけど質問ある？ (tta+cue).rar
https://mega.co.nz/#!SANSXTIK!Y2XPZUnB0plAD9Wkw8xc8DutTwMBqpjoJCEqtOhD7qg

(M3-32)(同人音楽)(艦これ)[SML] RESPECT2 -艦隊これくしょん- (tta+cue).zip
https://mega.co.nz/#!bQd3STQA!f8c-2wAD94a7IatN7IpvQ02d5lAAdhwgwAnYRb7o36U

>>11567420

Was this ever uploaded anywhere? http://www.empire-ensemble.net/index2.html

>>11567420
Sweet, thanks.

>>11567424
Not sure, I can upload it and a few other albums if you can't find it.

>>11567428

I'd appreciate that. Thanks

>>11567428
I'd also be grateful for more albums.

I have a question.
Say I leveled my Chitose to the level 50 without a single remodeling. Can I still remodel her to Chitose Kai and keep going in order?Or can I remodel her instantly to the Chitose Carrier Kai 2 which is her final form.

>>11567439
You need to go through each remodel step.

Why aren't you playing the GOTY /jp/?

>>11567428
Please do

Previous post >>11567420

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https://mega.co.nz/#!aNtFhQCR!ULvhgU1RFKg6NzGbpxkqVwl6Bj4jyHmBAlTYOMc5_xU

>>11567400
I don't know, to be honest. Everytime I see her fanarts in doorblog, I just relate it to Kantoku.

>>11567444
sauce?

>>11567486
>use the kyujitai for 國
>but not for 团, which is 團

It kind of ruins the immersion when Japs try to go for a classic-style "traditional" feel but fuck it up in the process. Shit like this screws with my ausitm.

>>11567487
It's in the screenshot.

>>11567486
>use the kyujitai for 國 (koku/kuni)
>but not for 団, which is 團

It kind of ruins the immersion when Japs try to go for a classic-style "traditional" feel but fuck it up in the process. Shit like this screws with my ausitm.

>>11567496
>>11567499
No one cares about your 'ausitm' here.

>>11567486

Thanks a lot

>>11567440
Thank you.

>>11567420
>>11567486
Thank you too.

>>11567497
Can't read moonrunes.

>>11567549

いたずら学園

>>11567549
Get out then.

From the newly started manga that we'll probably never get scans of.

>>11567551
Thank you.

>>11567557
Woah woah, where are my cute ships doing cute things?

>>11567562
In the Akatsuki sisters manga perhaps?

>>11567557
We can probably steal them from the Chinese

>>11567557
Is that an Ooi in the left panel?

>>11567557
/a/ is planning to scan and translate them in the KanColle threads.

>>11567567
looks like her, the hair and uniform are both correct.

>>11567567
Who else could it be? There's only 1 torpedo-launching allback bisexual yandere in this game.

>>11567570
I always find the torpedo tube designs to be misleading on Kitakami K2 because it makes her look like she's wearing robot gauntlets.

>>11565749
I was almost at level 60 when I finally cleared 2-4, so lolno

>>11567573
KTKM's first form is still the best. Dark uniform + DEM THIGHS.

Finally cleared 4-4. Had to deal with all that bullshit pre-boss node shitting on me and whatnot.

>>11567579
Wasn't there a gaijin 4koma about their reaction of KTKM's remodeling?

Yamato's big construction will be implemented along with map events, right? Hypothetically, would it be possible to first find her, then raise up her level until around 40-60, then take her to welcome her sister?

>>11567593
If they really do release large construction docks with the event. Even then, everyone will probably be trying to see what they can get from it (and see whether they will announce any clues on the twitter). Chances aren't impossible, but raising them to 60 and then trying to clear the event might be abit of time-constraint if you aren't careful.

>>11567593
I think it might be only at the end of the event.

>>11567593
Hypothetically, sure. You'll probably need to prepare something like 99999 of all resources, thousands of buckets and a whole bunch of Mamiya ice-creams to do it though.

>>11567593
They've delayed it to after the event.

>>11567593
>Yamato's big construction
Enjoy your fusou sisters.

>>11567604
>>11567596
Wait, what? Really?

>>11567607
Check the twitter posts from last week. They've finished it but decided to delay its release until event is over.

>>11567579
I can agree with this.

Are Kitakami and Ooi second and third remodel considered as CAs for expedition and map requirement purposes?

>>11567671
Yeah because CLT = CA.

Jesus, are people really that stupid?

>>11567674
Can't go one post without shoehorning your jackassery in it in some way. Good job.

>>11567676
He's got a point though.

>>11567676
Because people lack common sense, just doing my part in telling them to lurk more before filling this thread up with their stupidity.

>>11567563
Will I be able to see them nanodesu?

>>11567674
>>11567680

Excuse me for wanting to explain something that is not explicitly stated neither in FAQ, nor on respective ship pages. I've sent out an expedition headed by remodeled Kitakami that had CL as requirement and it failed, despite theorethically fitting the reqs stated for it on Wiki.

>>11567690
Should probably put up a note for it like I-58's note.

>>11567690
Because common sense would tell you that when an expedition wants a CL, it wants a CL and not a fucking CLT.

I don't even know where to begin pointing out how your brain has a few screw loose to even think that "Torpedo Cruisers" are the same as "Heavy Cruisers".

>>11567700
He probably assumed that they either count as heavy cruisers or light cruisers.

It's not immediately obvious whether an aviation battleship counts as a battleship, a submarine carrier counts as a submarine, or an aviation cruiser counts as a cruiser.

>>11567700

To quote Wiki:
Kuma Class Heavy Torpedo Cruiser

I don't see the word "Light" there. Try subtracting the "Torpedo" from that phrase and tell me what you get. CLTs are not listed in FAQ under hull classifications, either.

>>11567701
Should just put something like "You must follow EXACT ship type without any exception".

Could someone explain the mechanics of the machine guns and the dual purpose guns?
I read the FAQ, but I'm not quite clear on what it means by the ship "defends itself".
Does equipping a ship with a machine gun reduce the chance that ship in particular will be targeted/.

>>11567711
I think it's more of reducing the damage done to the ship should she be target
ed.

>>11567700
> to even think that "Torpedo Cruisers" are the same as "Heavy Cruisers"

You might, if you can read the kanji.

Chill the fuck out, anon. He asked a dumb question, got shouted at, that's good enough. Now your arguments are getting just as dumb as his question.

>>11567706
That's really retard way to describe ship type, have to admit.
>CLTs are not listed in FAQ under hull classifications
It's under CT, Torpedo Cruiser. That classification isn't actually exist, like BBCV or SSCV. It's just that the game gives their remodel different class.

>>11567734
>>11567727

Believe me, if they game wasn't illogical (not to use the r-word) about shit like that my question would never have been posted. Hell, even stereotypical raging nerd couldn't keep his terminology straight here (one might think, though, that the fancy posting guidelines in OP would preclude the natives from blowing up in spergy rage at a somewhat justified request for clarification... double standard much?)

>>11567727
The heavy probably refers to the armament since they never become as fat as CAs after remodelling.

I read somewhere that Mogami used to be classed as CL but became a CA when she got a bunch of big guns.

Naval classifications are confusing.

Even worse. If you can read the kanji you should notice that means 重雷装+巡洋艦, "Heavy Torpedo Armed" + "Cruiser".

ふ?。これから明後日??の新しい?艦娘改二の時報シナリオ等を書きます。まず、落ち着かないと……。【11/1(金)】メンテナンス明けと同時に「艦これ」秋イベント開催如何に?わらず、ある?艦姉妹の長女のさらなる改?(改造)も??予定です。こちらもお?しみに！
#艦これ

2nd remodel is going to be the firstborn daughter, which most likely to be Kongo.

>>11567765

Counter: Fusou class were the first completely-native attempts at building dreadnoughts.

But yeah, it's most likely Kongou.

>>11567744
You say double standard like it's a bad thing. When in Rome...be as shitty as the Romans are.

What's with all the rage, really? It's not a dumb question, the way it's done is liable to cause confusion, and it's not specified in faqs or whatever.

>>11567772

I say it like that because it is, for most part, a bad thing. If you set a standard for everyone else to follow you have to at the very least follow it yourself, otherwise it's not worth the metaphorical paper it's printed on.

Any bets on Kongou 's 2nd refit level? I'm guessing 70.

>>11567773
Blind attempts at holding on to elitism.

>>11567777
I'm thinking 90+. BB is relatively easier to level.

>>11567777
I'd say 80.
The real concern is how much resources do they ask for it.

>>11567790
Kongou is going to become a really expensive lady after the remodel

>>11567790
1800 ammo, 1500 steel, and a teaset.

>>11567793
It would be nice if they could move her sprite so you can see the teaset when Kongou is your flagship instead of it being hidden behind her.

>>11567773
I thought it was common sense, but then again I've never sent KTKM out on expeditions since she's too useful.

Gonna add that part to the FAQ now.

>>11567793
>a teaset.
This better be part of the requirement. No Kongou remodel is complete without god damn tea.

>>11567776
The level of asshatery on a forum overrides any sort of disagreement individual posters have about it. Complaining about it only makes it worse. You can not make it go away except by not reading it, which is probably more easily done by not bothering with this thread at all.

>>11567796

It was a 4h one (#9 to be exact) I usually set for the night. I figured she might as well nibble a crumb of it while I sleep.

Never thought it would cause a shitstorm of this size.

>>11567793
Wrong teaset.

>>11567777
We're sure it's Kongou already? Not any of the other battleships? Personally I tink Kongou is powerful enough to not need a remodel, Ise and Fuso would need a remodel badly.

>>11567798
Wrong teaset.

>>11567805
I think the other problem is due to some of us using the Japanese wiki, the kanji used for the various ship classifications are clear cut. Don't blame you for asking this question though.

>>11567805
The problem is just a single shitposter, don't mind too much and move on.

>>11567815
But Ise and Fusou classes do just as well as Kongou sisters. Anyways, it's the most likely to be Kongou as the Tweet specified The elder/eldest daughter of the class rather than the elder/eldest sister of the class: it makes more sense for the Kongou class as there's more than just two of them. However, nothing's certain until Nov. 1st.

>>11567795
Wrong teaset.

>>11567815

Ise and Hyuuga at least have luck on their side.

If anyone needs a leg up it's the Fusou sisters. Preferably a move back into pure BBs with a sizable armor and firepower cap increase.

>>11567815
ise overall stats are better and they can equip better ammo.

Why do I feel so bad about raising Isuzus to remodel level, just to strip them of their radars and feed them to my CAs and BBs?

I don't even bat an eyelash when I feed all the ships I get from 3-2 to my core fleet.

>2760t
Holy shit, 46cm is the real deal.

>>11567824
Ise and Fuso take a huge step back with 20 less maximum firepower when you remodel them into aviation battleships though. Being able to carry planes is usually a good thing, except the seaplanes in this game are completely shitty when measured up against having a single dedicated plane carrier.

>>11567834
You have the bond that comes from going into battle together. The ships you never sortie with are only phantoms.

>>11567854

Thanks for this picture, now I feel even worse about the whole deal.

>>11567849
These things were so heavy that they had to build an entire ship for the sole purpose of transporting them.

Each weigh about as much as a high-end destroyer.

>>11567852
>20 less maximum firepower
It's actually only a difference of 15. Not much of a downgrade when every other stat goes up.

>>11567852
I have a level 46 unremodeled Yamashiro. Her firepower is top class but her luck and evasion add up to 33. I'll probably have to give in one day.

>>11567864
I used to complain that destroyers were useless in day combat but when your whole ship weighs as much as one battleship cannon, you really can't really complain.

>>11567870
The cannon is the odd one here, not the destroyers.

>>11567834
Please stop Isuzu farming.

>>11567852
Better evasion scaling, AA, and armour + the ability to equip Type 91 shells, and on bauxite preserving runs, the ability to scout for the fleet.

>>11567849
I wonder how 5 41cm turrets weigh in comparison to 3 46cm turrets.

>>11567864
>Each weigh about as much as a high-end destroyer.
Can't fault them for going bigger = better, but damn that's a huge drain on their resources. 46cm weighs more than Akigumo.

>>11567876
>the ability to scout for the fleet
I love it when people try to pass this off as a reason to take them along. Aviation battleships and cruisers really have no place on any map right now. They should at least give them planes worth a damn.

>>11567890
Three quarters of ships have no place on any map right now. It's just how the game is.

>>11567892
That's wrong. Every ship plays a role with compass-chan around, except for aviation cruisers and battleships. There is not a single map where you need them.

Today I'm getting some compensation for all the bad luck of the last week, I got 46cm and rare turbine in 5 crafting attempts and Kumano at first crafting.
>>11567876
>I wonder how 5 41cm turrets weigh in comparison to 3 46cm turrets.
1004tx5=5020
2730.2tx3=8190.6
I'm using navweaps.com's data.

>>11567870
Ship and cannon weights in naval warfare are really something else, though. If I recall Germany tried to make a 1,000 ton tank (half the weight of a destroyer) and the general response to its concept was along the lines of "holy shit". That project never took off, but the heaviest tanks ever successfully built had about the same bulk as the wimpiest of torpedo boats. The Eiffel Tower weighs about as much as a smallish heavy cruiser.

The heaviest ship project, though? 2.2 million tons. It would be ungodly expensive, as you can guess, and it wouldn't last long because by "ship" I mean "glacier with turbines and planes on it", and it would be slow as molasses, but still, it was planned to be over two million tons and that's about six Empire State Buildings' worth of mass.

>>11567901

Are you talking about that mobile naval base US navy had a decade or so ago?

>148500 exp to next level
The final stretch is a painful one.

>>11567908
I think he's talking about Project Habbakkuk, the Pyrite monster

>>11567890
> Aviation battleships and cruisers really have no place on any map right now.
Whatever you say.

>>11567897
Thanks for the link. "Iowa class: 1,701 - 1,708 tons (1,728.4 - 1,735.4 mt) " 16" triple mount turret comparison to the 46cm turret is interesting.

>>11567901
They never tried to make the Ratte or Monster, those were just scribbles on paper.
As for the heaviest tank, that would be the Maus with nearly 200tons, which is still a lot but not close to a ship.
They did make a 1350 tons heavy artillery though.

>>11567895
I don't remember needing light cruisers for anything.

I wonder if Kongou 2n remodel will give you a 46cm.

Kongou farm?

>>11567908
I was talking about its forerunner, a giant chunk of ice and wood shavings that would be unsinkable, last until the war ended (a small prototype was built and took several years to melt) and could launch all the planes you could ask for. They never built it, since it was prohibitively expensive for what it could do, but it was at least as feasible as the bat bombs and the orbital magnifier.

>>11567912
Yeah, I was talking about the Ratte. I think torpedo boats used to be around Maus-sized, though, before various attempts to circumvent the Washington treaty made them mini-destroyers in all but name.

>>11567912
>They never tried to make the Ratte or Monster, those were just scribbles on paper.
Because the planners knew they can't compensate for Hitler's megalomania in the face of the advancing Allies. What made it worse is that the Allies are deploying increasingly improved hardware.

>They did make a 1350 tons heavy artillery though.
The Gustav/Dora guns? Those were more of a psychological weapon against anything. The Monster/Ratte proposal would see a couple of those guns being used.

>>11567913
Light cruisers have the best ASW stats and are great for dealing with subs.
It looks like the next event is going to have sub enemies so i hope your light cruisers are ready.

>>11567919
That is true, but it's only Isuzu and Yura who are going to be working overtime, just like how the only destroyers you should use are the five superdestroyers.

Also I don't really remember needing CVLs.

>>11567918

Not much of a farm if it will be level 70 or 80 remodel.

>>11567920
>it's only Isuzu and Yura who are going to be working overtime
What is so good about Yura? I think Nagara and Kuma are the best CL after Isuzu.
>Also I don't really remember needing CVLs.
5-2

>>11567920
CVLs are great when you need a carrier or two and want something cheaper than your normal carrier. They are also great for fleet support expeditions.

The only useless ones are the heavy cruisers, only good for compass stuff.

>>11567924
CAs are budget BBs. Good for busting shit up at 3-2 with your training fleet.

>>11567926
I remember everyone using her for the last event because of her good antisub, but that could just be because of her early remodel.

>>11567928
>>11567932
>>11567933
Thanks, I missed this piece of info.

>>11567924
They made them a bit less useless though (less useless as in not out-classed by Kuma and Nagara anymore), at the cost of making aviation cruisers entirely irrelevant.

>>11567928
She has good starting ASW stats after remodel. The cap is the same as Kuma and Nagara though.

>>11567926
She gets a high ASW stat on remodel, giving her a headstart to maxing it before other CLs. Same with Kinu and Abukuma.

>>11567929
But light cruisers have them beat in everything, would prefer a CL over a CA any day.

Ended up beating 3-2 yesterday with this fleet, is 3-3 farm worth it or should i just continue farming in 3-2?

So i just attempted a 3-2 boss run with fully modernized lvl30 DD fleet.

Why is this game forcing me to fight BB-toting, elite-level fleets with six destroyers?

>>11567940
3-3 first node is almost as easy for more exp and better drops (Mutsu, Imuya and one of the silver destroyers) at the cost of no abusable steel node, and once in a blue moon the node will have an elite CA.

>>11567936
How so? CAs have more firepower, 1 more equipment slot, and a little more armour and health, while CLs have more torpedo stat, lots of ASW, a little more luck, and less resource usage. The rest is roughly the same.

Because of DST's end I missed one PvP, again.

>>11567945
Thank you, I'll move my daily grind to 3-3 then.
Time to say goodbye to my destroyer fleet and never use them again.

Only CA I find worth running is Maya.

>>11567958
You already listed the reasons. The extra health and armor doesn't keep them from hitting red all that much. Extra equipment slot only means at most +7 firepower or a bit more AA. No anti-sub whatsoever.
Not quite worth the double ammo consumption compared to CLs.

>>11567936
I only keep CL's around because they're cute or for ASW. CA's make the backbone of my fleet right now.

Usually bring a BB, CV, CL/DD, and 3 CA's for normal day to day stuff.

I rotate full sets of Atago class and Myoukou class, all of them have over 100 firepower plus often bring Maya and Choukai. Suzuya and Kumano come along sometimes too, but I haven't used them as often since they only have around 80 firepower and I don't want to remodel them.

Anyway, I'm sort of surprised people are saying CLs "have them beat in everything", is there something I'm missing? Like evasion or something (no pun intended).

>>11567977
>>11567990
I slow.

Holy shit kids, throwing the word useless around too much. Just use ships you like, stats play only a middling part in effectiveness compared to levels and stacked equipment.

>>11567990
CA costs nearly double the amount of oil/ammo it takes to field 1 CL. 105 firepower still isn't enough to punch through (elite) BB armor, so the most they can do is clear trash mobs, but my Tenryu does that just as well with 80 firepower.
CA's stats are marginally better but with less utility.

>>11568008
Why bother with any cruisers other than the torpedo sisters (and Isuzu for ASW), then? CLTs do just as well as the rest of the CLs in taking out smaller ships + they get their opening torpedo attack. It's not like you ever run out of ammo, so their higher usage is not a concern either.

I'm seriously considering sticking 2-3 freshly minted DDs in the fleet and rolling for the one pre-boss fight. Hopefully they'll get damaged instead of the heavy hitters at pre-boss node so I can go in and try slapping the boss around - without worrying about dozens of hours spent grinding them up.

>>11568029
Because there are only two CLTs in the game.

Hyahaaa!

>>11567977
You might be underestimating the extra slot a little. Stacked equipment appears to provide a multiplier for damage and accuracy, there was a good Isuzu vs. Yuubari video a thread back.

>>11567931
I like how a difference of several points makes you want to completely throw a ship away. It's like im really discussing Starcraft!

What do you think about my Kumano's equipment? I'm not really sure about torpedos, maybe I should use more planes.

>>11568041
There needs to be more art of her. She looks nuts in the game art, but when other artists get their hands on her, that hair just looks like flyaway hair.

>>11568034
Could try what i did here >>11567940
I had no luck with turbines so all i did was stick emergency repairs on my heavy hitters and use two level 1 DDs as sacrifices.

>>11568008
I agree. The game need to re-think its armor mechanics. Right now, anything that has high armor can only be damaged by BBs. CAs shouldn't be able to oneshot a flagship BB, but they should be able to in maybe 6 hits?

If only ZUN!bar was here...

>>11568061

That's my plan B after "try a few runs with sparkled ships before I become literally worse than Hitler" plan.

It'll feel bad, though. Thankfully the Sparkle Plan shows some promise. Last try I nearly got through but Samidare ate a salvo from BB that JUST put her over the mid damage threshold.

>>11568053
Where did her radar go, anon?

>>11568077
What level are your DDs?

>>11568088

On Nagato, IIRC

>>11568090

30-31. Saw some victory screenshots some time ago showing DDs in this level range so I figured I might give it a go for a dozen buckets or so before going back to grinding.

Honestly, I just really want an Imuya. RNG gave me two Goyas, two Shimakazes and a Makigumo from all the 2-3 runs and crafts I did.

Oh gods, my heart.

>>11568103
They're attempting to dismantle her for her resources.

>>11568077
I tried the sparkle plan and the RNG sent me to the carrier node so i gave up with that and did it normally.

>>11568113

Well the sparkle plan has one advantage - I'm sparkling them on 1-1 which yields a lot of DDs, just what I need to modernize their torpedo stats.

I just don't want to use poor girls as a cannon fodder.

>>11568101
司令官、慣れてくれた？　イ・ム・ヤ、だよ？

Imuya is just so incredibly adorable, she became my favorite ship after a few days of using her.
No idea how you managed to get 2 goyas before imuya, it took me weeks to get Goya and I went through 4 imuyas before getting her.

>>11568125
Why is there a torpedo sticking out of her leg?

>>11568125

I just have... weird, for a lack of better word, luck. Got two +10 turbines and no 41cms or higher from crafting; if I remember correctly turbines are more rare.

>>11568135
It would indeed seem like it. Actually, it's... Wait, there really is a torpedo stuck in her leg!

>>11568101
Honestly that should be enough. My DDs were at that level when I cleared it too. I tried sparkle plan twice, went the wrong way once, ate a lucky crit the second time. Got fed up and just charged in. Went the right way after a few times and finished it.

Loadout was 10cm green and oxygen torps, and turbines for 3 of them, 12.7cm reds for ZKMS, Yukikaze, and flagship. The last 3 didn't get turbines because I didn't have any to spare, and they were either protected (in the case of the flagship) or had the stats to pull it off. Everyone was at 4-5 stars modernisation. This last part is the most important. If nothing else, make sure you grind up a bunch of ships to feed them; their stat caps are WAY higher than their base.

>>11568135
It's a cushion or similar.

>>11568135
Damn that looks painful.

>>11568051
What do you mean by stacked equipment? Putting two or more of the same gun gives some kind of special bonus?

>>11568143

They are at max armor and firepower already. Nearing cap for torpedo power. I've got two turbines I can use, though and three emergency repairs.

I guess I might try charging through soon... but, what exactly is in the boss node? Is it as horrid as that all-red BB/CA heavy pre-boss node? Wiki does not have data on that yet.

>>11568135
>>11568145
It's her inflatable float. One of her lines talks about how shes on a float right now, but amazing when she dives.

>>11568159
Check the Japanese wikis for enemy formations.

Also, one more thing to note. You don't need to kill everything in the nodes before the boss node. Just go with the horizontal line formation and dodge everything, probably dealing barely enough damage to get a B rank. Then switch to vertical line formation at the boss node and rip some shit apart.

>>11568160
She rides a different float, but yeah, that's definitely an inflatable (and phallic) torpedo she's laying her leg on.

>>11568171

Ah, I know that particular tidbit about formations.

And boss node seems pathetically easy.

>>11568158
I am now possibly full of bullshit because I can't find the video, but basically Isuzu Kai2 and Yuubari of comaparable levels went to the same node in two separate instances with the same formation/approach, and attacked the same sub with depth charges. Yuubari did something like almost twice Isuzu did because she had more depth charges equipped.

I can't confirm this for everyone else, but stacking some equipment tends to make a ship do better at the role the equipment's intended for, and not cumulatively according to stats, but to number of pieces of equipment. Pic related.