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I've been browsing videos in nico nico douga for a long time now and something I have noticed is that now I "know" certain kanji characters that I've become familiar with. But I might not know what the kanji means exactly or even any pronunciations. It's a pretty strange feeling.

Have you guys experienced this?

>> No.11536178

I was like this for a long time but when I finally got around to learning Japanese all the disconnected trivia bits (kanji I recognize well but don't know, vocabulary picked up just from watching anime) got stitched together into something that made sense.

>> No.11536179

I think that's called 'learning' or something. Weird, right?

>> No.11536181

I think I know what you mean, but no, I haven't. Though that's because I use stuff like rikaichan so if there's a kanji I don't know I can instantly look up its pronunciation and meaning. If I didn't then I probably would have experienced that, though.

>> No.11536193

I know 東方 :)

>> No.11536194

>>11536179
So prickly.

>> No.11536198

No, because I learned my kanji properly.

Except for the few names-only characters that have no semantic meaning in Japanese anymore so I never bothered to add them to my deck. I'll still recognize them if there's a Touhou named with them or something. Take 諏 from 諏訪子, for example.

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>>11536194
You mean juicy, right?

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>>11536168
I know that feeling. It's pretty common, too. It is indeed a stage of learning, most commonly experienced when learning a language "naturally." A similar situation is knowing a word as purely sound (from hearing it many times), but not knowing what it means. Both can result in the Eureka effect (aha! effect) when you finally learn what the word means.

Ideally you want to look up the word (as >>11536181 does) and then see when you remember it when you eventually see it again. Even better: devise a mnemonic to help you remember it. Of course, this is somewhat tedious, and it's often easier to just keep going.

Instead of looking up everything, it is also possible to learn from context. How fast it is depends on the particular context. Often it requires several exposures, but a good "sentence" or story may be sufficient to teach you the meaning. This learning effect is also greatly aided by a good understanding of the surrounding material, as this helps create a more complete context. This is the reason why difficult materials are not as effective at teaching language.

For the most effortless learning, the materials should not be "too easy," which early on applies to most materials. For the most time-efficient learning, materials should be just outside your comfort zone, requiring more concentration and commitment.

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>>11536644
Why doesn't nico let you search more than 50 pages back? Are there any external sites with a complete history? grn-web is only good for deleted videos.

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