/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>11514934
Previous thread was at page 3, died for some reason.

Please take it easy.

>>11514934
These need to stop for the moment. Just make one after a new update or event.

Replying to the anon in the previous thread, I'd panpakapa~n her panpakapa~n, if you know what I mean.

>>11514941
Probably killed by a janitor.

>>11514946
I feel like I should be trying for carriers/battleships, but some part of me just wants to take the girls I've picked up for as far as we can go, even if they're not ideal.

>>11514986
Once you hit 3-2 and on, you usually just end up leveling your favorite girls anyway. A lot of DDs, CAs start to have more use.

>>11514986
A solid core of BBs/CVs/KTKM allow you to keep 1 favourite (weaker) ship as your flagship and still be perfectly capable of clearing maps and wrecking shit in practice matches though.

So where did you guys farm up your Destroyers? Subs? I think I might be too anxious to level them up so I'm doing it wrong. Should I just farm World 1?

>>11515006
In 3-2.

I just tried crafting 4 (10/10/10/10) equipments for daily quest having a submarine as flagship and all were penguins.

Can anybody try this as well? I just want to confirm if this will be a great way for saving crafting material. Or is there already a verified tests of this?

>>11515006
Training exercises since my Mutsukis aren't ready for 3-2 yet.

>>11515026
Read the wiki.

>>11515043
Before they delete it.

>>11515043
I guess I'll just look for reports in wikiwiki.
Thanks for the cooperation though.

>>11515050
I'm that fag who live and play here in Japan.
Are they gonna delete the Japanese wiki too? lol

I'm tired of farming 5-2 for Mikuma. I've gotten everything that can drop there except her.

>>11515065
Keep going.
Took me 10 hours straight to drop Sendai.

>>11514934
Goddammit, stop copying the OP the other anon messed up with and fix it next time.

>>11515061
>Are they gonna delete the Japanese wiki too? lol
Good for you. Be careful about those "lol", I understand that the resident gestapo doesn't like them

>>11514997
>>11515001
That all seems like a long way away, but I'm already working on a KTKM-sama to support myself. Still, I've started running into enemy carriers that wreck my boats, and the AA I have isn't good enough to save them... I'd like at least 1 carrier with fighters on it.

On the topic of KTKM, I've read that anything other than torpedo equips is useless on her, but I try to do as much damage as I can in the normal firing stage of combat to keep enemies from being able to fire their torpedos. Is slapping regular cannons on her while leveling going to severely impact her if the rest of my fleet can still help in the torpedo stage?

>>11515103
KTKM can equip midget subs after her level 10 remodel. They give her an extra torpedo strike that comes before the regular combat phase. That's the reason why people usually want to have KTKM with all torpedoes; to kill things off before they can even shoot.

That said, it depends on where you're grinding. eg 3-2-A's enemies are usually pretty weak, so you can go ahead and stick 1 gun on her, since whatever she torpedoes will die anyways. If you're doing harder maps or practice matches though, all torps is a better idea.

>>11515101
I'm sorry, all I'm asking was a little bit of cooperation and 40 for each resources (plus x crafting materials) to see something if this will be helpful to other teitoku who are running out of resources, only to be replied with that. (And it's morning yet no sleep doesn't help)
Fag-mode was turned on and posted that with "lol" to piss him off. Childish I know.
Though I did follow his advice and looked at wikiwiki reports. One guy got 1 96 attacker and the rest were penguins.

tl;dr: Having a sub as flagship when doing 10/10/10/10 will mostly result to penguin.
But maybe that's just me

>>11515128
Is there a recipe for midget subs?

>>11515206
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Development

>>11515186
I guess in that subs don't up your chance for anything you have a lower chance at everything?

I just got a turbine with 100/300/250/10 with 58 as my flagship. Which was pure dumb luck, can't believe I didn't remember to switch flagship.

>>11515206
There is, but it'd be much cheaper and faster to just level a Chiyoda/Chitose to 12 and strip it off them.

>>11515186
Oh, that's even better, actually! I don't think I saw them on the wiki's recipe list. Is it safe to assume this is what I'm looking for?

>>11515128
Oh, that's even better, actually! I don't think I saw them on the wiki's recipe list. Is it safe to assume this is what I'm looking for?

>>11515221
Or I could try this, though I haven't had much luck in building ships either.

>>11515186
I don't understand your initial query. Are you talking about 開発資材? Because I'm pretty sure everything, including development material, is consumed even when you get a penguin.

>>11515209
I asked because I didn't see it there.
>>11515221
Too bad I just used my extras for modernization on the Chitose A I use.

>>11515239
You don't build them you'll just get them as drops, they're not entirely rare. I accidentally crafted a midget-sub just now, funny stuff. used 10/300/250/10 enjoy having no ammo or metal if you go that path.

>>11515261
You get penguin failures returned to you in the form of build allowances when you return to the home screen.

>>11515220
I forgot to add that my T-level is 69 while 168 is 32.

And congrats with your turbine. Though I think having BB as flagship would be smarter as it has better chance to get 46cm, which I doubt you don't know.
Take care next time

>>11515261
Yes, development materials/tools.
At first it will be consumed even if you get a penguin in factory, but once you're back to home screen it will be returned.

>>11515284
Ah yeah, that seems to be the case. But most people don't run out of development materials usually.

>>11515276
I'll try spamming 1-3 and 1-4 for them; I don't think I can take on more than one fight in in a row on 2-1 yet. Thanks, Admiral.

I'm not understanding what's going on with expeditions. No matter what composition or which expedition, only my second fleet is available to do it. The wiki doesn't say anything about the first fleet not being able to do them, so I'm not sure what's going on. I even switched the ships around and it's still only fleet 2. So is there anything special in this regard to fleet 1?

>>11515302
Fleet 1 can't do expeditions. It's as simple as that.

>>11515290
I almost did when I was spamming for aircrafts and all-30 ship to get Inazuma back because I lost her but to no avail ;_;

>>11515302
Fleet 1 is the sortie fleet. I'm pretty sure it was never mentioned on the wiki because it was never something that people really found to be annoying to begin with.

Hope you find your Sendai sisters soon.

>>11515304
Okay, I thought I was doing something wrong since the wiki didn't mention it. Thanks.

1-4 down, Hibiki get. Speaking of which, Верный or 北上改二? I don't really like Hibiki's design personally, but I might totally sellout for niche performance. Kitakami's cool, though. And good.

>>11515081
"the other anon" here. It's excruciating to have that copy pasted. I even have an edited copy saved, but the OP of the previous thread had to put up the thread before the one I made was even close to getting pruned.

>>11515326
Destroyers aren't even good at niche performance, though. Верный is now outpeformed by Isuzu's second upgrade.

>先ほど「甘味処『間宮』」計画に関する統合作戦会議と図上演習が終わりました！明日詳細をお知らせできると思います。秋葉原にアクセスできる提督の皆さんは、ぜひお楽しみに！

Any speculation on what could we be getting tomorrow?

I almost beat 2-4, and then last torpedo crits my Akagi for 59 damage

Im sorry if this has been asked before but what should i do if i want to prepare myself for a event? And what ships/fleet composition are useful in events/later maps?

>>11515401
Collect buckets, grind BBs and CVs.

>>11515405
How do I stock up on bauxite to sustain CV's during the event?

>>11515377
>we
It seems to adress people being able to go to Akiba tommorow, so that shouldn't be much of us really.

>>11515405
Will CVLs work or should i focus on getting more CVs?

>>11515408
Do expeditions and quests?
I sortie a lot with akagi and other two carriers but i never have bauxite problems, only steel problems.

>>11515377
Probably more announcements relating the new US aircraft carrier Taiho or one of the two new destroyers.

How's your fleet? I'm still recovering from 1-4, and supplies are extremely low. It'll be a slow evening.

>>11515408
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Expedition#Theoretical_Hourly_Net_Earnings

Not sure about which sorties are the best though, don't have CVs to worry about bauxite.

>Zuikaku is sparkling ever after getting crit from full to 1HP by a CVL

What a strong daughteru.

That end point directly above the starting section of 2-1 was worse than the boss node.

>>11515426
It's kinda self explanatory that I'm doing expeditions and quests. Once you'll start running with a CV or even a couple of them you'll understand how fast bauxite goes when using them. I've had 14k before I've gotten my first CV in 2-4, after clearing 2-4 I've had ~2k left. And it pretty much stays at 2k without piling up.

>>11515413
CVLs usually fall short in long maps unless you get lucky due to their low defense and less HP.
>>11515408
Run expedition 6 all day.

>>11515408
Expeditions 6 and 11 will handle your bauxite issues for a long time. What you should be worrying about are buckets and other resources, since event bosses (except the E-1 boss, at least during the last event) can regenerate their bars over time and you will be required to do a great number of repairs in very short periods of time. Also, the next event will apparently be quite a bit tougher than the last, so you should not go at it expecting a complete clear. As for the required ships, a core BB/CV team is a necessity, and specific ship types (that are subject to change) usually make the event maps less of a hassle.

With that said, this poor breast chart is only getting more and more useless with each passing update. Second remodels gain impressive breast sizes with little to no change in displacement, and submarines are up to a whole different ball game (and it's not total tonnage sunk, otherwise I-168 would be bustier than I-19). I wish there were official three size records, at least that would eliminate the whole faulty breast size judgment problem. I hope this version has fewer errors in that department.

>>11515438
Really? Clearing 2-4 only took like 500~ bauxite from me.
My ammo and bauxite keep piling up while my fuel and steel are my most used things.

>>11515447
>>11515439
Thank you two a lot, i'll try to prepare and see if i can enter this event for "Intermediate" players.
So far my highest leveled ship is akagi at level 43.

>>11515438
How did you use up so much bauxite? Did you run your CVs through practice battles? Because I'm nearly finished levelling my A-team to level 40 grinding on 2-4-A every chance I get and my bauxite supply never changed much.

>>11515453
Well you're only grinding 2-4-1, you will probably see your bauxite drop when you'll start attempting running the boss. It took me ~50 tries to beat it, I was running with Zuikaku and Kaga.

>>11515447
>Atago has bigger guns than Yamato

I refuse to believe this.

If she doesn't boast the biggest rack of Kancolle, Yamato'd just be a woman with a massive appetite.

>>11515377
I'm pretty sure that's referencing the plans to open a Mamiya cafe/ Kancolle desert merchandises, nothing about the game itself.

Can you deploy less than 6 ships? Im eating all my resourses to fast, when only need to send half team for farm

>>11515456
Yamato is using type 91 pads, tho.

is it a fine setup for Mutsu ? 3-4 / 4-4 in mind.

The compass is random, right?
For some reason I always get sent to F on 1-3

>>11515477
Yes. When switching ships, you can instead click the topmost section marked はずす in order to dismiss the ship from the fleet. You can deploy with less than six ships that way.

>>11515479
Good grief, I completely missed that. Time to modify the list yet again. Thank you, in any case.

>>11515500
on that matter,
I thought the chitose sister to be a bit higher (in their last remodel).
I also think Taiho will exceed our expectation if humikane take her armor stuff into account.

Last but not least, since you work in arbitrary unit, shouldn't ryujo be set as a 0 reference ?

>>11515519
It would be funny if she's very stacked with her armor, just to be shown that it's all padding when damaged

Guys, the SS are practically useless until lvl 10?
My I-168 does nothing more than recive damage.
I even equip her with a 61cm torpedo, but she does absolutely nothing.

>>11515544
Being damaged is sub's forte, actually.

You should be much happier with a 1/10 hp I-168, to rapair for free in 20min, rather than a 70/79 kaga for 50+fuel/metal, and 2h+.

at higher levels, with turbines and her luck, I-58 should make a nice dodge tank.

>>11515562
I admit that her repair time and cost is a advantage, but I'm concerned because she only takes damage and she doesn't attack or dodge the attacks (but that is probably because her lvl is low).

>>11515544
When equipped with a midget submarine, they get a preemptive torpedo strike even before level 10.

>>11515519
Ryujo is indeed set to 0, while Atago is now a 130 on the arbitrary breast unit scale. Chitose sisters are a fair point; they were a bit down the scale because both have poses that would overemphasize the size of their breasts, but I suppose they should be placed higher still.

Good point on Taiho too, though we'll have to wait and see for her.

What uses do Destroyers have? They seem awfully weak.

>>11515611
being adorable

>>11515615
Murakumo, Nenohi, and Kagero especially.

>>11515611
Expeditions, due to their minimal fuel cost, and the fact that many expeditions require destroyers (this is very fitting, since destroyers are ideal escorts and were often used to guard convoys of other ships). 3-2 requires a team of destroyers (and nothing else) to clear. In some maps, you can influence the compass in your favor by using certain ships, and destroyers are frequently included in the mix. They are decent at night battles, and can damage submarines. Finally, if your priorities include having a pretty girl in your flagship spot, then the great diversity of destroyers will ensure that there will be at least some shipdaughters that you like.

>>11515611
Be cute and be useful in expeditions, because they don't consume much resources.

Are Kitakami and Ooi useful in event maps? My Ooi is already past 50 and I'll probably be able to level up Kitakami beyond 50 until the event aswell. So far I'm planing on bringing Mutsu, Haruna, Akagi, Zuikaku and I've got two spots empty.

>>11515615
>>11515621
It's fun to level them all up to Remodel stage. For me.

>>11515627
Do you also have autism?

>>11515599

Baka Teitoku, go get midget sub

>>11515645
All the time in the world.

Anyone got links to all the BGM?

>>11515660
No, but they're probably on youtube or nicovideo if you don't mind using online music converters.

Is there another way besides BitCash to purchase points?I have paypal but I don't have credit card and I'm not a U.S resident so I can't register at sutocorp.

>>11515682
I'm not from the US either and it worked for me. I think you just need evidence that the name and address that you registered on paypal with are genuine regardless of country. A photo ID that also has your address on it is ideal.

>>11515626
Anyone got any input?

>>11515696
Thanks, I'll try it later then.

>>11515682
You don`t need bein from the U.S for sutocorp, I use it being from South America

>>11515697
Kitakami and Ooi are always useful. I imagine the event maps will try to force you to use all sorts of different ships anyway. Like the last event had easier paths that required a different composition or the submarine boss which required anti sub ships.

Is the wiki's Admin awake? Should we lock the wiki or just leave it there as is?

The proxy connection page is empty... I just wanted to try Touhou 2.0.

I guess it has to do with this >>11515050

>>11515736
Read the previous thread.

>>11515736
Yeah, it has to do with that... essentially people there went full retard and they're fearing a mass invasion of normals or whatever. We're waiting for the admin to appear in order to discuss this matter seriously, I'm tired myself of reverting the page and fighting against these 5 years children, for now you can access the infos from an old revision:
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:_Proxy_Connection?oldid=7283

I don't think any of DMM's games are on mobile, but with how popular Kancolle is I wonder if there's a chance of seeing it on iOS and Android sometime soon. I'd love to manage my daughterus on the go. that or in the bathroom

>>11515744
Can you just get a flash projector and play it on your android?

>>11515743
So can you give us a valid reason why we should keep the page up?

>>11515744
Can't you just bring a laptop in if you're gonna attend to your kanmusu in the bathroom?

>>11515743
It makes no difference anyway, most of the new people are illiterate people that refuse to read the wiki.
The people that want to get in and have working brain cells will find a way to get in while the random idiots that dont know how to read will go like "Oh well, it cant be helped" and give up when they see the blank page or see that you need a japanese IP.

>>11515743
Thanks, I forgot most wikis have the previous revisions available.

>>11515742
I skimmed it. It looks like it was removed deliberately. So you're trying to reduce the number of new people registering? Is it because there's an increasingly long line with this lottery system, or just because someone linked it on FB or whatever and you don't like normals?

>>11515751
Why did someone make it in the first place? In order to make life easier to whoever would like to start playing this game, no? Why should we create a little quasi-secret club of those who started playing first and and exclude others? Anyway the number of western players compared to Japanese will always remain pretty low, between proxies, lotteries and language barrier.
>>11515759
You're welcome.

>>11515759
> So you're trying to reduce the number of new people registering?
No, just the new they-are-gonna-get-all-foreign-IPs-banned-tier FB people.

I have hated money for my kanmusu and it'd be terrifying to get my account banned.

>>11515762
>Why should we create a little quasi-secret club of those who started playing first and and exclude others?
Because we don't want to lose our accounts? Ever thought about that?

>>11515762
> In order to make life easier to whoever would like to start playing this game, no?
No, actually. It's to keep the lazy maggots incapable of using the JP wiki from flooding the thread with "how do I ___".

>>11515762
>Why did someone make it in the first place?
I'm asking that myself on why someone needs a tutorial on how to proxy. That has almost nothing to do with the game, it's so basic a quick run of google will figure it out. If that's the great step that's holding people back from playing maybe they didn't deserve to in the first place. Do we have to explain how to use flash and internet explorer next?

>>11515759
>>11515762
You know that they have lottery because spaces are limited, right? An influx of foreign IPs would cause problems and complaints. Japan has a long history of banning foreign players outright in their games.

Not that people actually read the wiki anyway.

Let's not start another stupid argument around buzzwords like 'secret club' and 'normals' that no one here even uses.

>>11515778
> buzzwords
talking of words that no one here even uses.

>>11515762
We started in the first place because people kept going

How do I lottery
How do I X
What do I X

Surprise surprise people still ask the same dumb shit.

Sorry for bringing it up. I should have just googled for a proxy instead. I was curious why the page was missing from the wiki after seeing these threads for a while and deciding to try it.

>>11515779
Yeah, sorry. Meaningless phrases, then.

why cant i hold all these crossboarders

>>11515239 here. I just put out the basic combination for a carrier and the time result told me I'd be getting one of the two seaplane tenders. Here's to KTKM-sama!

>>11515773
I was about to make a snappy post about Explorer but those kinds of people would really would just use the default browser, wouldn't they!? What a terrifying thought.

>>11515773
It's true that it's very basic but I don't see any big deal with that exactly because it's very basic. Also infos about the registration, lotteries and their announcements have been removed as well.
>>11515774
And where is it written that you're entitled to remove what someone else wrote on the internet because of your, almost surely unjustified, fears?
>>11515782
At least we have a place to address them without going around the same shit every time. Also it's quite possible that at least a small number of people playing this game doesn't know about /jp/ and only use that wiki as reference.

How do you make midget subs again?
I accidentally got a 168 while trying 270/30/330/130

>>11515788
>At least we have a place to address them without going around the same shit every time.

you mean here? cause that's all i see here all the time

>>11515788
Fuck off you little bitch. You can take your "muh tutorials" and shove them up your ass, spoon feeding faggot.

>>11515791
Grind a Chiyoda/Chitose, their theoretical value is 10/70/70/10 but you'd be wasting your resources.
>>11515792
I mean, you post the address of the wiki and you're done with it.
>>11515797
And when fags like you start posting this shit usually any attempts at having constructive and civil discussions end.

>>11515788
If its so basic, then they should just do a simple google search and help themselves with the wiki after registering and everyone ends up happy.

>>11515788
>And where is it written that you're entitled to remove what someone else wrote on the internet because of your, almost surely unjustified, fears?
Are you fucking serious? I mean no one in their right head would write such shit. Let me guess, you haven't been in the threads long enough to see people getting banned for proxies.

>>11515808
Finding a proxy/VPN is basic. Dealing with the lottery's BS isn't so basic, if you don't speak some Japanese and now tell me that all of you in this thread, except me evidently, speak it coherently.

>>11515813
I registered around one month ago and I saw only one person claiming that he got banned but it didn't even look like he was exactly understanding what happened, they sent him a mail to reset his account or something but he couldn't go past an error page.

>>11515817
The how to register page still has how to deal with the lottery, you just have to find the proxy and lottery times by yourself.
Or ask when the next lottery is and participate, simple as that.

>>11515819
And what makes you think that we're not going to end up like chinks with mass bans? Oh right, that's irrational fears right? I mean they're fine with foreigners playing their game, they simply want us to use a proxy to do so!

Fucking use your head for once you dumb shit.

>>11515819
Nah, some buddies of mine got banned for using proxies... but maybe they were just doing it wrong. No idea.

>>11515817
Aren't reading and listening skills enough? There's also the willingness to do your own research and learn but that's another thing.

Should I fill my expedition fleet with all 6 sparkling ships to guarantee great success or just the required amount of expedition?

This is not fucking kindergarten, janitor. You don't need to go full Nazi on the thread just because people were being _mean_ to each other in the thread. For fuck's sake.

Who's that I see in the corner? なのです！

Janny-kun pls

>>11515832
>Evidence
Right. I can't remember the English equivalent saying, but there's this little phrase in Korean about fixing the barn after the cow has been stolen.

>>11515842
The merch is just bursting out.

>>11515828
Please let them just be doing it wrong somehow.

How do i turbines? I can't manage to get them with Shimakaze or Yukikaze as flag, should i change to a submarine? And which recipe?

>>11515869
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Development#Engine
Let's use it as long as it's there...

>>11515791
Check the craft pages. And midget subs are equipment anyway, so I have no idea what the fuck you're doing trying to craft ships.

>>11515869
Turbines are rare. Both Japanese wikis have extensive craft pages listing level, recipe, and flagship.

>>11515872
>Let's use it as long as it's there...
Stop being such a pent up faggot seriously.

>>11515875
I mean, I want to equip it with midget subs.
So, Midget Sub is torpedo bomber?

>>11515878
>>11515872
The Japanese pages are significantly more extensive and only need you to be able to figure out the Japanese words for "development" and "engine" anyway. And if you can't do that I don't even know why you're playing the game.

>>11515888
It's a small submarine that shoots pre-emptive torpedoes for the few ships that can equip it.

>>11515888
No, the 甲標的 甲 is a submarine, and torpedo bombers are airplanes.

This is just proof of how little people care to read. If you'd scroll up, you'll see the exact same question about midget sub. Actually I think I see a midget sub question almost every thread.

Time to put it in the FAQ that nobody reads?

>>11515872
Why is it being deleted?

>>11515878
Is this an invitation to join your club? I have to politely refuse, sorry.
>>11515890
Well, at least could make us the favour of saying which page? This one?
http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%B3%AB%C8%AF#i7932922
Or does it count as evil spoonfeeding?

>>11515903
I think he's just saying "it's there, so use it"

>>11515904
開発 - development
機関 - engine

Congratulations, that wasn't so fucking hard, was it?

>>11515903
Because of an insane mix of elitism (normals shouldn't touch my daughters) and paranoia (I'm sure my daughters will disappear if normals touch them).
>>11515909
There's no reason to be sarcastic, I know and use the Japanese wiki, it just doesn't seem to say anything of particularly important, except that some people use bauxite heavy recipes.

>>11515913
> I know and use the Japanese wiki, it just doesn't seem to say anything of particularly important, except that some people use bauxite heavy recipes.
It tells you what people have used to craft radars, and their flagships, and their levels. What are you looking for, exactly?

>>11515913
>elitism
Are you that idiot from the few threads ago who kept on crying elitism. Actually, no, let's not start this shit again.

Oh, you are an idiot for crafting midget subs, though.

>>11515921
He wants engines, not midget subs. Please be sure you know who you're talking to before you start flaming.

>>11515921
>midget subs
Or engines and turbines. There's no reason to specifically go for them unless you have a page full of 46 cm already and don't have just as many engines and turbines yet.

>>11515913
Your passive aggressive nerd rage might have rendered you incapable of rational thought so I'm gonna spoonfeed you for a minute. That's not sarcasm, that's the answer. No one cares if people need to use the resource to understand the basics of the game, they care if they need a tool to get them A to Z into it. Removing those pages is just survival of the fittest at work. It's actually encouraged to provide helpful tips on the page you linked, but having to link them to every stupid faggot who can't get there himself is a one way trip to threads like the last one where every other post is like a support forum. People put a lot of work into the wiki and pastebins just to see it get disregarded. They wouldn't have done it if this were a secret club. You're the only one dumb enough to delude yourself into believing that's what's happening here. We just want to play the game.

>>11515921
And you're an idiot for not noticing that I'm not that neither the anon who wants to craft midget subs nor the one who asked about turbines...
>>11515928
>That's not sarcasm, that's the answer
That was a sarcastic question, the answer ended with "congratulations", which was a little sarcastic but it wasn't as gratuitous as "that wasn't so fucking hard, was it?"
>You're the only one dumb enough to delude yourself into believing that's what's happening here.
Read again the previous thread.

>>11515928
so shut up and play it instead of pretending you're DMM's userbase policing force. didn't the last thread getting blown up over this stupidity not tell you anything? jeez. survival of the fittest? who are you kidding.

やった!

>>11515926
Because you're going to clear 3-2 with 46 cm right? Fuck logic.

>>11515954
So you don't have a page full of 46 cm yet and you're specifically crafting a byproduct of the 46 cm recipe. Fuck logic all right,

>>11515954
Because you don't need turbines to clear 3-2.
Because any experienced player would recommend doing so to get turbines as a by product.

>>11515959
They also drop from some radar recipes. Turbines are more than just "46 cm byproduct." Some people want turbines more than they want 46 cms. Stop being such a douche.

Fuck those CAs requirements for node fix for 5-1

>>11515959
Why the fuck would I need a page full of 46 cm if I need turbines to pass 3-2? Which part of this sentence do you not understand? Should I write it in retard for you to understand?

Why is everyone so angry?
Why so many deleted posts?
It is not like you guys lost your girls to the sea.

>>11515962
You could clear 3-2 with nothing but 12.7 guns if and three-barreled torpedo launchers you really wanted, but most people don't feel like it.

This conversation could have been a lot fucking shorter if you'd just answered "use the 46 cm recipe" anyway.

I swear to got the general IQ in these threads drops not by days but by hours.

>>11515954
>Because you're going to clear 3-2 with 46 cm right?
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21676208
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zORv3pTZIsA (same video)

>>11515971
They came here for advice. We give them advice based on our experience (albeit not in the most polite form, but hey we're not their support team). I don't see why they won't feel like it.

If you use the right recipe, you can aim for both but will end up with surplus turbines anyway (they're only 2 stars rarity after all). You only need one turbine per ship whereas a BB would be typically need to be equipped with 2-4 of the much rarer 46 cm guns. Going for a turbine only recipe is waste unless you already have enough 46 cm to equip a fleet or two.

What do the buttons on the bottom do?

>>11516012
left is to feed her
right is to evolve her

You could probably have figured that out on your own.

>>11515996
You also dragged it out into an extended, retarded conversation when "use 46 cm" would have sufficed.

>>11515998
The same recipes that drop two-star turbines also sometimes drop three-star radar. If you want those more than you want 46 cms (maybe because just using Kongou-class battleships) then you can do that instead.

Yes, Kongou-class battleships become liabilities later on, but in the end so will everything that's not Nagato or Yamato so fuck that.

>>11516013
Don't wanna end up screwing something up due to language barrier. Thank you.

>>11516013
But he would need to be able to read a wiki and look up information himself, most people lack that special ability.

>>11515996
>>11515998
Thanks for expanding on my "page full of 46 cm". I was pretty upset with the very likely consequence of having a large number of people from that FB crowd joining, so I was taking my anger out on that anon.

>>11515966
I stand by my initial advice of using the 46 cm recipe. While you can clear 3-2 without using turbines, you're going to be in a world of hurt without 46 cm in the maps afterward, where you're gonna be buried under a mountain of turbines and engines from the 46 cm recipe when you finally decide to craft the guns.

>>11516020
A few threads ago someone accidentally scrapped the starter ship he had been leveling. It was so retarded I couldn't help but laugh.

Question. Does having more than one Saiun help the fleet? I've gotten a second one, so I am wondering if sticking that onto another CV would make any sense...

>>11516023
I crafted a nice ship on my first craft.
I then accidentally fed her to my starter.
This shit happens.

>>11516024
For its special ability, no. Still gives an accuracy bonus to the ship you put it on, though, just like it says on its stats.

>>11516027
I want to tell you that's all kinds of retarded, but I lost my starter by accidentally clicking advance while she was in the red, so I don't have room to talk either.

>>11516027
Now I see what the point of having the game discussion thread on /jp/ is.

It's about normals stealing our knowledge of moon from us. Quick, put on the tinfoil hats!

>>11515973
>>11516012
Looks more like minutes.

>>11516027
I did the same thing but i managed to get her back later.
Used the wiki to learn the ropes after that and had fun doing it even if i dont know a bit of japanese.

>>11516048
I meant to click "don't pursue, go home" but instead I clicked "don't pursue, advance" because both of those buttons are on the left. It's no excuse.

She would have been level sixty by now. I had been planning to keep her my flagship indefinitely. Right now she's just grinding expeditions for me.

>>11516051
In case you still haven't learned of this yet, you can quit the sortie any time before formation selection by restarting the game.

>>11516051
I think i have accidentally advanced instead of withdrawing on some maps but i just refreshed the page when i noticed my mistake.

Have never clicked night battle accidentally and i hope i never do

>>11515969
Because we might lose our girls forever in case DMM decides to pull a SEGA.

>>11516054
I even knew back then, people were talking about it. But I told myself that that would be cheating, and that I wasn't a cheater.

I valued my pride over the welfare of the fleet, and my arrogance proved fatal.

>>11516027
And this is why we click that little Heart Lock icon next to our beloved daughters to keep them safe from being fed.

>>11516061
But anon it was not cheating, my hand slipped!

Oh gods, Murasame, please stop stalking me with your seemingly innocent smile. I'm trying to invite Sendai to the fleet to complete the quest. I can't handle 5 of your doppelgangers.

>>11516069
The levels this pun is operating on are so far removed that I have to applaud you.

Which place is the best place to level fleet of DDs /jp/?

>>11516086
FUCK YOU

>>11516086
Answered in first few posts at the top.

>>11515744
If you really need to pet your girls https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cloudmosa.puffinFree&hl=en

>>11516089
Get out.

>>11516093
fuck off DIPSHIT read the fucking thread before asking your faggot questions

>>11516098
Woooooooooooooooooooooooooow

>>11516089
Please stop. You can put spoonfeed beggars in their place with a simple answer like read the thread/FAQ/wiki rather than slamming down on the Caps Lock key.

>>11516105
Don't start going with the flow now.

Server 1-3: japs and weebs
Server 4: cool people
the rest: newfags

Why aren't you on server 4 yet?

>>11516098
Get the Fucking manner before you talk to some random beginner moron.

>>11516111
I dont even know my server

>>11516111
Because 4 is death?

>>11516111
I'm not leaving my Kaga just to be cool.

So I finally passed 3-2... I think I overlevelled for it though.

+10 evasion turbines on all Akatsuki, +6 evasion turbines on ykkz and smkz.

All these comments in VPN connection tutorial

>>11516122
I hope those are troll comments.

>>11516121
I get censoring your name but why censor the level?

>>11516125
Why even censor your name, unless it's a commonly used screen name or your actual name? The most we can ever interact with each other through the game is cpu-controlled PvP simulations.

Basically I'm asking if it's ok for me to keep being lazy when posting screenshots.

>>11516125
I'm a slow map clearer. My level's rather high but I only started seriously clearing maps recently. It's embarassing how I'm just a few levels short of being T-level 100 but have nothing to show for it.

>>11516051
Good job monster.
How does it feels to know that she is sleeping in the bottom of the sea now with alien tentacles?

>>11516132
>Almost level 100
Holy shit
What did you do for all those levels?

>>11516121
I just cleared 3-2 awhile ago too.
Have you treated them with Mamiya goodness yet? Because I know I will after they finish taking their baths.

Only 1 +10 evasion turbine on Hatsuharu, while Shimakaze, Hibiki and Ikazuchi have damage control each from the quest just in case. Good thing they worked hard enough to refrain activating them.

>>11516137
I wish I knew. When I became aware that I'm massively overlevelled it was already too late. I spent most of my time doing low-level map sorties for weekly quests. That resulted in a whole bunch of mediocre-level ships.

>>11516059
There is no need to be upset.
If there is a huge upsurge of gaijins wanting to play, who knows if they will make a gaijin version and put it on IOS/android.

>>11516141
Not that guy, but I need to save Mamiya for the event, man. Can't be going around spending it recklessly.

>>11516135
I hope that her spirit will return one day.

>>11516143
I don't see a point of making gaijin version for mobiles free (or bust) when they're going to make Vita version.

Trying to make turbines for 3-2 is murdering my steel supplies, and all I've gotten so far is one +6. Guess I'll just have to try grinding my DDs up some more and pray to RNG goddess.

>>11516141
>>11516121
On the bright side when your DD's are powerful enough you can farm 3-2 for even more levels and a direct boss route with supply ships (though those attack you).

That's completing 2 annoying quests in one, with a bonus chance of Nagato drop per sortie.

I'm doing it as often as I can with a team of level 60 destroyers who can evade everything you throw at them.

This guy here
>>11516121
I beat 3-3 already. That was almost too easy.

Will try 3-4 after they repair. In the meantime, I have to get Kitakami and Ooi to level 50, they're almost there.

>>11516208
Unless you're rolling in holo/s holo/ ss holo equipment and buckets, I suggest you don't attempt the nodes beyond the first two battle nodes in 3-4.

>>11516208
You're better off trying to beat 4-4 first, 3-4 is brutal.

Uhmm does damaged ships affect the chances of a successful expedition?

>>11516215
Another wall, huh. I guess I'll try to farm for a lucky Nagato drop from 3-3 while levelling then.

What's the recommended average level for 3-4 and 4-4?

>>11516229
No

>>11516235
I beat 4-4 with my ships around 50 and 3-4 with them at 70 but even then you have to get very lucky with the enemy BBs/compass.

>>11516149
She did return. Just not quite in the same body

Im sorry if this a stupid question but is there a item i can craft to make a ship attack more than once?

>>11515845
>Akagi merchandise
Does it feature built in aluminium can compressor?

>>11516317
Artillery guns.

>>11516243
You don't need to be lucky with the compass at 4-4 if you have the right fleet composition.

>>11516325
And which ones are those?

Christ, why didn't I think of locking all unique my ships to spot the doubles easier. It's so easy to feed my other ships when there's only like 5 to choose from.

Looks like we're back

Great, I just blew 3000 bauxite and all I got was Comet 12, the rest was shit.

Yeah
>>11516338
It helps with that but it's especially useful to avoid incidents like the ones mentioned before.
Anyway, am I the only one who experienced slowdowns until one hour ago or so? Peak of connections or my internet/PC being a bitch?

Would you buy a beaver statue?
I actually crafted her after trying to post this before the abrupt maintenance, weird.

>>11516356
I had to stop because it was so bad. I don't think I'll make a few of my dailies now.

>>11516358
What recipe?
I alternate between
250 130 200 30
250 30 200 30
Getting jack shit here. Where are all my cute ships?

I hope that in the future you have the opportunity to honorably release ships from service. With a "thank you for everything up to now" kind of line.

Although that would raise weird questions about the ones who do get used for modernization or kankankanned.

>>11516364
I was going trying for a sub and did 250/30/200/30.

>>11516367

>>11516358
Bad as in your client being very slow too? Or are you referring to your bad crafting session?
Either way, has anyone seen this:
https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/388456165039820800
So, I understand they're adding a new poster, but what does it say about our "favourite" idol?

>>11516367
The semi-canon thing is that the girls just give up their weaponry to the other girl when you use them for modernisation, and the same for scrapping, except you're melting down their equipment instead. In either case, they go on to live peaceful lives outside.

>>11516376
Naka-chan dayo!~

>>11516378
Alternatively, Akagi eats them all up.

>>11516376
It was way too slow, it was taking minutes to do anything.

>>11516383
Why would a carrier even need torpedo & firepower?

>>11516376
"The song '恋の2-4-11" has been playing in my head so much that it's distracting... although the meaning of '2-4-11' is a bit..." I failed JLPT 5 so you shoudn't trust me, though.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22017384

>>11516378
Yeah, I figured it's something like that. It still feels weird to do that to to a ship with levels on it.

>>11516383
That's scary and deliciously sexy at the same time these weird fetishes of mine....
>>11516387
Pure and simple gluttony, also firepower should do "something" to CV apparently.
>>11516384
Thanks for the confirmation.

>>11516391
This gif contains all the reasons why I fell in love with Akagi. Aside from Akakaga.

>>11516391
That's terrible and you should feel terrible.

>>11516393
Are you me? Actually those were the reason I started playing Kancolle to begin with.
>>11516394
I do, sometimes.

>>11516395
Perhaps I'm you. And this is all an elaborate ruse to get more people to join the Akakaga ship.
Though, I'm really glad that Akagi is really easy obtain when I first started playing. Still haven't gotten a single standard carrier from the CV recipes though.

I heard something about secretary lines when you leave the game alone for a long time? Is that a thing?

>>11516409
Only the newer ships. All it does is she tells you the time whenever the hour strikes.

>>11516411
Oh, I see. I never got around to setting Zuikaku or Abukuma as flagship for more than a few minutes at a time so I was wondering where that came from.

I wonder if they'll go back and do the rest.

>>11516400
>Perhaps I'm you. And this is all an elaborate ruse to get more people to join the Akakaga ship.
You were not supposed to tell them that.
>Though, I'm really glad that Akagi is really easy obtain when I first started playing. Still haven't gotten a single standard carrier from the CV recipes though.
I wouldn't waste bauxite trying to craft CVs, Akagi has to stuff her tummy after all; Soryu should be fairly easy to get, I got her many many times in several maps, while Kaga took me a lot of efforts but I got her in the end, I was touching sky with my fingers when it happened. Now if I could only find Hiryu... I hope 3-4 will help me there, I'm trying to grind the first node to get her.

>>11516414
The subs also do it, i've had I-168 as my flagship for a while now and she says stuff if i idle at the main screen for too long.
Also has a line for when the hour strikes like the other ships.

Do green planes defend my carrier from bombers or are they only used in the initial phase?

>>11516400
I got Soryu, Hiryu, and Kaga from drops. The only ones I crafted successfully were Shokaku and Zuikaku. 400/200/500/400 works pretty well for me as I got both sisters and even Zuiho within a week.

>>11516427
I've been trying to get Shokaku, Zuikaku and Hiryu from crafts while I got Kaga from 3-1 drop. The best I got is Soryu but after that it's usually CVLs. One time I got Naka and got so pissed I went all 999 on the resources and got Zuihou. I don't know if I should be happy at that time. Maybe I should try your recipe some other time once I finish hoarding resources again.

>>11516427
Started using that recipe a few days ago since it had the highest chance of CVs, as stated by the jp wiki anyway. Hopefully my CV dry spell will end soon.

What would be next features in this game? Eventually they will run out option of adding new map, since 5-4 will be the highest peak of difficulty in this game. I don't think they will add the 6th area unless somehow they increase the level limit from 99, but I really doubt it will affect a lot.

I've been reading the JP wiki, but I can't find where it say the right composition for influencing route on the map. Where do people get those information from?

>>11516439
Revamping leveling system and stats mechanics? Introducing more maps that require different compositions to challenge players? And of course, new ships and remodels.

>>11516439
They could do a map where you sortie two fleets (fighting separate battles). That's probably good for another map or two.

>>11516439
I think they probably weren't expecting this game to explode in popularity, because Flash is shitty platform to run a game of this much userbase and expansion potential. I hope they move onto other platforms like Unity or even as its own executable. That way is much more scalable.

>>11516454
What if you could actually take control/give orders to your ships on a map but the battles are harder to compensate?

>>11516446
There's a button next to the text "ルート分岐法則はこちら " on wikiwiki, on some maps, like 3-3, it's just a single note in the same space.
>>11516451
>And of course, new ships and remodels.
Those could take... years? Just today I was thinking about Chitose and Chiyoda's missing sisters... I would love to see them with the same drawing style and similar "upgrades".

>>11516460
Adding any system that causes people to ask "why aren't all the maps like this" is bothersome because players will ask "why aren't all the maps like this?" Warfare is chaotic anyway. In real battles, torpedoes undershoot, ships are misidentified, fleets walk into traps, and all sorts of other military errors happen. Although I suppose it would be nice if you could do a bit more than formation selection.

They could make a map with a resupply point in the middle.

>>11516465
They will, and it will be reserved for gigantic maps with dozens of nodes.

>>11516465
That's interesting. Could also be a checkpoint that will expire within 10-20 minutes, for example.

>>11516472, >>11516469
Yeah, there's really a lot of design space that they could use even without changing the fundamental "equip ships, watch them fight" model. I loved the cut-in attacks that your event support fleets could do.

>>11516358
Maintenance? I'm playing the game non-stop for 9 hours now.

>>11516508
4chan maintenance, probably.

>>11516513
Oh no wonder no one was posting for a while in this thread.

>>11516508
You noticed no issues at all? Maybe it didn't affect every server, the game was really slow for me and that anon before, it took even half minute or more to load one page; incidentally today we were supposed to have weekly maintenance but they skipped it, I wonder if it could be related to this issue.

>>11516525
I haven't noticed any. How long was the maintenance?

>>11516525
Mine only took some time to load after I logged in. Plus it took also a while to load all the images of my ships in their status screens but after that it's smooth sailing.

>>11516530
There wasn't any game maintenance, like they announced on twitter days ago; I had slow loading for one or two hours, coincidentally it ended just before 4chan's read-only status ended.
>>11516531
This sounds like something related to your cache getting flushed, but my issue persisted for quite some time... Oh well, it doesn't really matter.

>>11516525
Their weekly maintenance is usually in Wednesday JST.
Scheduling wise, last Friday one was rather irregular.

Aww, yeah. Hiryuu. The collection is complete and that quest can stop mocking me.

it just hit me - does the plane in fourth slot do anything? The animation only ever shows three planes - at least in battle turns.

>>11516540
Congratulations! Did you craft her or did she drop somewhere?
>>11516541
It seems to work during the pre-emptive attack (or however it's called) I see three torpedoes when I load two torpedo divers on one CV and 1 on the other one. But I'm not sure about shelling phase.

Any confirmed date for next event?

Uh, whoops. Sent a fleet on the 80 hour expedition by mistake. I have gone max retard.

>>11516540
Got her some time ago too, but I'm keeping the quest completion for the event, it'll be my trump 500/500/500/500 !

Is there any info on their akiba event ?

>>11516545
I hope you at least picked a fleet that can do the expedition.

>>11516545
Ops... I sent the rare destroyers on the 40 hours thinking it was 4 hours but the 80 hours is even worse, I hope you can complete the expedition at least.
>>11516547
Isn't it one of those thematic dishes events which are weirdly popular in Japan? They seem to talk about stuff like that on their twitter today, but I really can't into moon...

>>11516547
It's not event, it's just GSC cafe in akiba gonna make merchandised Kancolle fares till December.

I ripped the sprite of my favorite ship girl and have her hanging out on my desktop, complete with a jury-rigged idle animation. Or well above the desktop since it's set to be always on top.

She doesn't have clock lines, though. Oh well.

>>11516569
So who's the lucky girl?

Trying 250 and 270 recipe.

Got Yukikaze and Shimakaze at the same time.

Now how do I mod my fleet, I wonder... Too bad I don't have the fourth fleet.

So, what's up with people having a Destroyer as the flagship in later levels? I'm currently at 3-3 with 5 BB and 1 CV. Im planning on adding another CV, once I actually get someone besides Akagi... but should I also throw in my favorite destroyer?

>>11516583
Boss compass only accessible if you bring destroyers? cmiiw

>>11516583
>should I also throw in my favorite destroyer?
You should grind the best destroyer.

>>11516574
She's probably more unlucky than anything else, seeing as how her secretary lines are "What do you want from me?" and "Can I leave?" even before you start poking her.

>>11516583
If it's Hibiki or Yudachi, they're being grinded to their second remodel.

>>11516591
Who is she? Hibiki? I remember she has a line about leaving, but I don't think she asks "what do you want from me" her other line is about orders.

>>11516601
I thought that picture came from Japanese.

>>11516604
It's fine they realized Ryuujou is the one posting.

>>11516596
The only destroyer who will call you shit to your face, of course.

Is that what Hibiki's line means? I thought her line was "It's fine to turn things [the tide of battle] around slowly, isn't it?"

>>11516581
I need Yukikaze for my 3-2 team, been trying 250/30/200/30 for a few days but to no avail sigh. Short of Haruna for unlocking 4th fleet too, though I found 3 each of the other sisters already too. RNG goddess sure hates me.

>>11516609
>The only destroyer who will call you shit to your face, of course.
I'm still puzzled.
>Is that what Hibiki's line means?
I'm referring to her lines in the teitoku room, I can't exactly remember this line.
>>11516617
>implying Yukikaze won't get down to critical HP before the last node
That's how I cleared it yesterday, just place an emergency repair on everyone but flagship (give her a turbine if you have it) and you're good to go with the stupid strategy, I entered the last (extremely easy) battle with two girls already red. Kagero was laughing so hard that she couldn't help getting a MVP and sparkles after this.

>>11516625
I take it you haven't picked up an Akebono yet.

>I'm referring to her lines in the teitoku room.
そろそろ戻っても、いいかな？

Also, my Japanese is terrible.

>>11516625

Just cleared 3-2 just now myself. Does 3-3 require any gimmicks or can I call in the full force of my fleet?

>>11516617
I don't have both Kongou and Haruna. And I get multiple Hieis.

>>11516633
Some guy above cleared 3-2 and then cleared 3-3 immediately.

>>11516121
>>11516208

>>11516629
I'd let Akebono call me "kuso teotoku" any time.

Also, I like the art of Oboro, Akebono, Sazanami and Ushio. It's nice and sharp. Wish that artist did more artwork for ships.

>>11516629
>I take it you haven't picked up an Akebono yet.
Ahhh, I don't really like the design... and especially the attitude.
>そろそろ戻っても、いいかな？
My Japanese is laughable but this is pretty straightforward, even google's automatic translation should be good enough "I wonder if I can go back soon", I wonder if she's referring to the battlefield or what.
>>11516633
3-3 is a piece of cake, just remember that you need two CV to reach the boss, most people use them anyway but just in case. 3-4 is hell, don't push beyond the first node if you're not ready to sink a lot of buckets and resources on it.

>>11516641

Only my Akagi is leveled at all. Will a CVL suffice? Either way, I'm not in a rush or anything

>>11516634
I've gotten 5 Hiei, 3 Kirishima and 2 Kongou or something.

>>11516625
Yeah, but at least I can rely (slightly) less on luck in dodging shots. I don't have turbines and my lolis are only at lvl 30 or so though, Shimakaze 40. Only been playing 2 weeks.

No idea why I get this when try login, and I don't get the reset password mail

>>11516639
wut, rly? Those must be my least favourite...

>>11516641
She usually utters that line if you poke her too much. Presumably she would rather go back to her other duties if she's only going to be poked while she is called in as a secretary. There's no malice or anger, she's pretty stoic.

What a terrible day. Misses and crits and 4 hour repairs everywhere. Does anyone know if positive fatigue below the sad face threshold affect performance at all?

>>11516643
>Will a CVL suffice?
Yep.
>>11516644
Well, that's true in theory but my Yukikaze has this weird obsession of getting hit, she has more evasion than Shimakaze at this level and her luckiness is insane but she just seems to enjoy it...
>>11516653
But getting poked is an important part of her duties, or am I getting something wrong there?

>>11516641
>and especially the attitude.
I can see why. She calls you a shit admiral even in her self-introduction.

Dear diary, today I learned that "te mo ii" is a standard construction for asking permission.

>>11516639
Tsun characters are great and are ruined as soon as the dere starts to kick in.

I just got a submarine. I wonder if this can be a substitute for Kitakami since I can't get Kitakami whatever I do, I've been trying to craft her for a week now ;_;

>>11516546
So?

>>11516668
just grind in 3-2 for ktkm

>>11516649
As much as I hate to bring this to you, but you got b&, may your ship daughters rest in peace.

>>11516687
Not him, but...what?

>>11516689
That's the ban for using proxies.

>>11516668
Submarines can't be substitue for KTKM just because they fire midget subs, KTKM is a monster because of her 139 torpedo stat, in comparison I-58 has 84 according to the wiki. But here comes the good news, you'll get tons of KTKM sooner or later while subs are extremely rare and some of us wasted tons of resources to get them.
>>11516687
Isn't it just a password reset procedure prompted by some "hacking" of his account?

>>11516693
There's a ban for using proxies now?

>>11516694
>Isn't it just a password reset procedure prompted by some "hacking" of his account?
Yeah that's what they make it look like. The emails with password reset never go out.

>>11516694
Yeah, I just read it and it's asking you to reset your password for security purpose.

Says that the reason is because your account was compromised.

>>11516699
Isn't it possible that the email won't go out because he's on the banned proxy right now, and they're not honoring requests from it?

>>11516700
Proxy = same ip = multiple people with the same ip logging into multiple acct

Bullying with Tenryuu!

>>11516704
>>11516700 here. Ah, that might be why they think it's compromised. I'm moved to Japan a couple of years ago so I didn't need to VPN my way in or anything (just that my moon still isn't very strong).

From what I understand, might be something to do with your browser that's not enabling the link? I had a couple similar issues, but not from DMM, whereby the reset link wasn't functional because I was using IE/Firefox, had to use Chrome before I managed to reset my passes.

>>11516704
Great, now I'm terrified to log in since I was using VPNgate too. And the private VPN service I was looking at it upped their prices lately. What a pain.

>>11516682
>>11516694
Thanks guys, will continue to pray and try to get Kitakami.

Another problem is if I get Kitakami, who do I remove? Currently running a I58, Yuudachi, Mutsu Kai, Haruna Kai, Hiei Kai and Akagi.

>>11516704
Thousands use the same famous VPNs everyday at the same moment, it's hard to understand how it happens that only few fellows got their accounts locked; it could be related to some specific proxies which are blocked by DMM, perhaps because they were genuinely source of hackings.
>>11516725
3 BB is an overkill in most maps, rotate them.

Anyone could explain this picture?

>>11516727
Alright, got it. Thanks!

So how do you think they will they make the destroyers more useful? Remodels for everyone? More compass trolling? DDGs?

>>11516731
With the upcoming coastal defense ships, it's gonna be submarine hijinks all over again.

>>11516728
Change in tags used for the kind of videos that are posted about kantai collection since its launch. Notice the steady growth of MMD, the decline of gameplay vids.

>>11516731
>DDGs?
For now... ASROC equipment.

>>11516649
Im here again, i just delete cache, change browser and vpn and got the mail later 1 hour, I think it was a VPN problem

>>11516731
DDG would make the destroyer suddenly CL/CA size though, although...

>Kongou upgrades into a DDG
>more engine power than 1944 config, with 1/4 the displacement.

>>11516739
Nice, did you get back in game already?

>>11516731
Do they have to get better? It wouldn't make sense from a gameplay or historical perspective for a destroyer to be more valuable than an aircraft carrier.

And I don't think Kankore is entering the Cold War era any time soon.

>>11516745
There weren't many fleet that consisted entirely of BB's and CV's though, right?

>>11516731
To be honest I find DDs useful enough as they are. It's really convenient when they cover the flagship and dodge, and even if they do get hit the repair time isn't that long. I have 2 +10 turbines on my DDs though, it would be nice if they got more base evasion.

>>11516749
Yea, normally BB and CV would be formed into a joint fast carrier squadron screened by DDs. I think there's also the battleship battle group at one time...

>>11516749
That had more to do with the fact that they only had so many aircraft carriers to go around (and so much fuel to feed them with) than because they thought destroyers were great to have around.

> more base evasion
Yeah that would be really nice, seeing as how 100 evasion isn't even 100% evasion in the game. Maybe 10 or 20 higher evasion for all destroyers would be nice.

>>11516745
It was more of a joke. Would be nice if DDs got some kind of utility role. Maybe they could screen short-range attacks or aircraft.

>>11516743
Yes, all normal now

>>11516772
The strong point of a destroyer is its economy, but eventually you get to the point where fleet resupply aren't what's stopping you from going on, I think. And unlike the IJN, we aren't starved for fuel. Just buckets.

Now if three destroyers could share a bucket, that would be cool.

>>11516777
Good, I hope this will help people calm down a bit about the possibility of getting banned out of the blue.

>>11516783
>three destroyers sharing a bucket
that's adorable as fuck.

Saw this on twitter this morning, tried the third recipe 3 times, got my Zuikaku. Can I craft Shoukaku with that?

>>11516836
What's the one or two extra ones I see in some recipes? Like 301 fuel or 402 bauxite. Does it actually change anything or is it just voodoo?

>>11516848
It just means you have to use more than 300 fuel, using exactly 300 won't make the cut.

>>11516836
Tried the last formula there, got 2 Nakas.

This is the fleet I've been leveling up for 2-4. My question is, what should I equip on each of the battleships and KTKM? Do I just stack 35.6mm guns and 甲標的 甲? I also have one radar from Isuzu-kai, who should I give it to? I figured out the plane mechanics already.

>>11516871
Is that a little bit too early to think about 2-4 with that fleet?

>>11516871
That team is a far way aways from even scratching 2-4.

Battleships: Just throw 2 red guns (36.5mm or 41mm) and put a green or yellow gun in the third slot, and whatever else you want into the 4th.

KTKM is basically a light cruiser with special torpedo stat therefore she cannot use a 36.5mm gun. Put one Kohyouteki in the second slot and a 20mm gun on the first.

Always put the radar on your best hitter (you want to make sure her attacks hit anything at all), which looks like Haruna in that case.

>>11516871
35.6cms and 15.5cms for BBs; 41cms if you can afford to craft them, or you can get one by remodelling Haruna. For KTKM, midget sub and x4 oxygen torpedoes is enough.
And level them up, you're gonna get slaughtered with those levels unless you're really damn lucky. Get them to 30+.

>>11516871
Only if you can't get 41/46, then yeah, your best bet is to stack 35.6. You would also need either type3 ammo or green guns to combat their carriers.

Possible to get a type91 for your Ise as well.

>>11516871
Why don't you try 2-4 first? Your ships aren't gonna magically sink in the first few nodes.

>>11516886
>carriers
I'm pretty sure most of the nodes of 2-4 don't have carriers, even the boss node.

>>11516879
>>11516881
He said it was the fleet he was going to level up.

Though >>11516871, you will probably find some more good BBs and CVs in the long stretch preparing for 2-4.

>>11516889
There are.

>>11516889
There are carriers but they appear mostly in nodes which don't lead you to the boss, except for node H.

>>11516889
IIRC north route has carrier node, south route doesn't.

>>11516892
>>11516895
>>11516896
And those nodes are the ones you don't wanna bother going through. I never encountered them anyway, seeing as I got led on the south route and all the way to the boss.

>>11516881
How much does slot positioning matter? I know that it affects plane numbers on CVs but what about guns?

>>11516885
20mm gun or 4 oxygen torpedo?

>>11516890
Yeah, I'm spamming about 2BB and 2CV formulas a day while grinding 2-2 and 2-3. Will get every ship to 30+.

>>11516888
I tried it once, didn't go very far before getting mid-damaged. I can wait for it.

>>11516739
>delete cache, change browser
I don't think you understand how browsers work m8

>>11516903
Well, south route is more prone to compass trolling, while for north route, assuming you don't get carried to west, you will meet the boss 100%.

Are Seaplanes usefull? i got Chiyoda, but feel like she only eat my resourses, not sure if her will be good late remodel in lvl 12

>>11516920
Guess I was lucky then. First try to get to the boss led me south and immediately to the boss area.
>>11516922
Depends on you. If you expect you're going to meet carriers then AA gun. If not then the torps. Though personally, I'd let my fighters aboard my CVs to take care of enemy fighters and so I can just stick other guns on my ships instead of sticking AA on them.

>>11516922
And what about the boss? Try it and then revise your strategy and equipment.

>>11516922
>>11516933
Wiki/FAQ/Pastebin.

>>11516919
At least he managed to get past that password reset which apparently stopped more than one anon out there in the past.

>>11516937
He tried it once and couldn't even reach the boss, yet you want him to try and reach the boss again?

>>11516952
Well of course, does he expect us to spoonfeed him everything and change his diaper as well?

A pair of questions: do I need to beat both 3-4 and 4-4 to unlock world 5?
Is every map in world 5 made of buckets and tears? Or is the first one doable?
I'm asking because I'm interested into Yugumo.

>>11516956
No, that's not really what I wanted to get across, my bad.

Er, what I meant was that he knows he's doing it wrong and he's gonna wait a little before trying again after leveling up his fleet somemore. So before that he's seeking advice from us on how he can modify his fleet.

But you just told him to go for the boss again with his current setup was what puzzled me. Surely even you know that he'll need immense amount of luck to get through 2-4 with that current fleet.

Speaking of 2-4, reminder that this exists.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21832746

>>11516959
And from there he'll gain exp and perhaps new ships for his fleet, while ironing out all the weaknesses in his current fleet. This practice would be good for him in the long run.

How was your luck when you guys were trying to clear 2-4? I've had 5+ attempts where my ships took very little damage but the compass girl just decides to shit on me.

>>11516964
Shitty. I whined and whined but never on /jp/, managed to clear it after my ships leveled from 20 to about 40, took me 3 days and about 50 buckets in total.

>>11516963
Ah, that's true. Mind straight away went towards: damaged fleet, repair time, burn resource, rinse and repeat, player rages and bids farewell to game.

Thanks for the enlightenment!

Whew. Just A-ranked the 2-4 boss easily with a fleet of 20-30s. Made my heart skip a beat though since I entered the fray with KTKM-sama at medium damage.

>>11516964
I cleared it second try, but perhaps I was overcautious because I didn't really make any attempts until my entire fleet was 40-60.

>>11516973
> entered the fray with KTKM-sama at medium damage
Ooicchi would like to have a word with you.

>>11516964
Cleared it on my first try though I grinded on the first three nodes first so my ships were 40s-60s. Also got sent to the easiest route to the boss so guess I was pretty lucky.
And all of it was used up since I've been mostly shitty ships and items from crafts.

>>11516975
And that would be the player's own problem. Most of us got by like that.

>>11516977
I had incredible luck just then, you would push forward too. I went southwards, my A-team steamrolled and got perfect S with every node other than the pre-boss one where everyone was unscratched other than KTKM-sama.

>>11516958
Yes you need both 3-4 and 4-4.
5-1 and 5-2 are very easy, 5-3 is very hard.

>>11516938
English wiki doesn't say why equipment placement matters on non-carriers but the JP wikis probably do. To give a vague clue, he should pay attention to what happens in all phases of combat with KTKM.

>>11516986
I have done that, at E-2, with a level 34 KTKM-sama. And I still regret the decision to this day.

>>11516956
I just want some simple information to better prepare me for the grind. If I didn't ask anyone about anything I would've sank every ship I had.

>>11516938
I read them already. Honestly, the English wiki equipment page and FAQ aren't very informative at all past world 1.

>>11516963
So you suggest repeating 2-4 and spending buckets / delaying constructions instead of grinding earlier maps where I could complete with little damage (and more chance for BBs)? The Japanese wiki does have every formation for 2-4 listed, which has helped a lot.

>>11516973
Consider yourself lucky, my Kitakami who was in yellow died there.

>>11516958
5-2 becomes your go-to drop farming map because of how easy it is, provided you aren't misfortune personified that gets ru-class BB in that one node every time.

>>11516964
Cleared 2-4 with only 1 BB, every daughter was in the 20ish range.

Granted, I never got S rank on the nodes, at best A ranks.

>>11516996
Yeah, I think I am pretty lucky. Even during the boss fight, I got crits and evades everywhere and I felt I was on a roll there so I entered night battle with KTKM at red damage.

How much resources should one haul for the event? 20k fuel 20k steel 10k bauxite should be enough?

>>11517005
Should be enough if you don't go carrier heavy, it doesn't hurt stockpiling a little more until then though. It's the bucket count that will be all over the place, I'd aim for 300 at least.

>>11517004
> KTKM at red damage
you monster.

>>11516988
>>11516998
Thanks a lot. It's a relief to hear that both 5-1 and 5-2 aren't hellish maps. Well, first things first, I'll try to clear 4-4 for the last time later today or tomorrow, then I'll think about 3-4.
Talking about 3-4, I would like to see the trollish face of whoever thought it was a nice idea to make Hatsukaze drops only in 3-4's boss...

Is my Chiyoda worth anything or should I just rip her 12.7s off and scrap her?
I've got a Junyou already so I'm not strapped for an aircraft carrier.

>>11517007
I'm planning on 2x Shoukaku class standard carriers 2x Nagato class battleships and Ooi with KTKM.