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get good :^)

You have 3 options OP.

- Play with SanaeB
- Use the safespot
- Get rekt

>>11370100
You have 3 options OP.

- Play with SanaeB
- Use the safespot
- Use a bomb

>>11370089
tkx bro :^)

>>11370107
I'll try for a couple hours with Sanae B then and report back. Thanks... there's a safe spot?

Practice makes perfect!

The safespot, I believe, is right in front of her as the bullets are spawning. You have to look out for her umbrellas though, and I've never actually done it so I'm not sure how it works. I think she has save spots for all of her swirly circle attacks, but I'm not entirely sure. I haven't played UFO enough to learn anything beyond the "so piss easy :VVVVVV wow you suck harder than DSP man" Hard mode. I've seen people use safe spots on a few of her attacks on Lunatic, so they're there. Just go watch some replays or something.

>>11370119
That spellcard is really easy with SanaeB and nearly impossible for everyone else, unless you use the safespot.
To use the safespot just stay really close to her and follow her around as she moves.
Although to have a chance to get close to her in the first place, you need to use the safespot on the nonspell before it, same deal keep close to her and follow her around.

>>11370151
>>11370119

To my surprise I capped it easily on my first try with SanaeB. Thanks a lot for the awesome tip, guys!

Seconds away from another life piece and Miko's pathetic last few spells.
At least I think I'll get my first clear by the end of the day.

Congratulations on the WR run MaZe, I knew you would show those UFO lovers their place.

>>11370274

MaZe is a superplayuer!

if you're going for the safespot route, don't use sanae B, it's a visual clusterfuck although possible. probably best with reimu A, marisa A's shot will pierce through her completely and destroy the floating balls behind her (hot!), which could end up getting you killed.

>>11370274
MaZe is too good, truly the icycalm of our time. Except he actually knows his shit and plays for score to make mad nerds quit. He should play the original DDP and make that one loser shut-in fuckface who can't even chain 1-4 quit forever.

Do it, MaZe. Chain the first loop and destroy his hopes and dreams. Prove to that autist that he will never be good at the one game he loves, please. My score there isn't enough to make an impact on him, otherwise I'd do it myself. 80M in 20 hours is quite average, no way I'd make somebody cry with a score like that.

That's awesome MaZe!

>>11370274
MaZe is our saviour, hell to the doubters!

Is there a translation patch for DDC that isn't the new-fangled garbage auto one?

>>11370274
:^)

>Extra WR

top lel at thinking it's worth anything

>>11370888
It's certainly worth more than those easy records.

>>11370866

So what kind of "real game" is this guy talking about?

>>11370944
Something easier than UFO. It's maze after all, that'd be way too hard for him.

Good job on the WR. Looks fun.

>>11370910
It's not, though. An Easy WR requires more than 25 minutes of playing perfectly, whereas an Extra WR only requires ten minutes. :V

I want to get a WR now, but the competition is really heavy for the games I play. I was happy with being in the top 15, but now I really want to push beyond that. Playing for 45 minutes without feeling jittery and losing focus is hard though, so I don't believe I'd be able to handle it. Fuck. How am I supposed to compete with super computers who can calculate the framedata and routes in a matter of seconds with 100% consistency?

>>11370987
Please link me to one of those perfectly played western WR runs. ":V"

>>11370995
Just do what everyone does, pick an obscure game, pick the least competitive difficulty, pick an obscure shot, if possible pick an obscure route as well. Beat an existing WR that might or might not be several years old by pretty much just copying the run.

>>11370995
>>11371003
Almost no-one scores Hard competitively on any of the Touhou games in the west, there's your window.

Allright you fuck face let's do this shit.

>>11370866
I really hate MaZe because he makes people who like Ten Desires look bad. Before it was just "play a good game nerd" now it's "oh man you associate with MaZe, pathetic :V".

But at the same time the amount of dedication this guy has to spend what seems to be all his time on his personal crusade is truly mystifying and I can't help but want to know more.

>>11371096
>I can't help but want to know more
MaZé and T are the same person.

>>11371096
>But at the same time the amount of dedication this guy has to spend what seems to be all his time on his personal crusade is truly mystifying and I can't help but want to know more.
It's called autism.

>>11371080
shit

That survival card's last wave is crazy shit.

>>11371120
Done

Shit score but I don't give a fuck, the ex stage is beaten.

>>11371311
Congrats man!! I've never played 14. What is the difficulty of that extra mode, is it at least harder than hard mode?

So who are the cool people in the community? All I see from here are toxic egoautists.

>>11371369
>What is the difficulty of that extra mode, is it at least harder than hard mode?

It's easier than Normal.

>>11370866
Who are you and what have you done to the real MaZe?

>>11371397
What if MaZe really was hiding his powerlevel all this time.

>>11371407
Well fuck.

I'm actually surprised. MaZe had a time limit to get a WR in a month, and he really did it. Everyone that doubted him probably feels like a complete idiot now. MaZe acts like an asshole, but the fact that he can get an amazing score so easily completely justifies his attitude, unlike all of the other "good" Western players that are actually pretty bad yet still talk like they are good. MaZe truly is a prodigy; his self proclamation of "best in the West" is probably true. I am envious. It's pretty pathetic that one of his haters had to upload a TAS'd PCB Extra run to replays.gensokyo.org in an attempt to "stain" his reputation.

>>11371455
Hi MaZe.

>>11370107
Why is SanaeB so broken? It makes me hate that game

>>11371520
It's her bomb.

>>11371541
It was rhetorical

>>11371455
Hi T.

>tfw a WR in a Touhou game is like getting a WR in a novice mode on a CAVE game

>>11371630
Pretty impressive?

Thank you thank you.
What can I say? Well for starters, I've been saying that I'm better than those wannabes for a while now. I'm not trying to gloat, believe me. I'm a firm believer in stating facts, and the fact is, I'm just flat out better than the vast majority of players in the west.
I've done much harder things in various other games than getting that WR.
Those fools act modest about their "achievements" until you actually tell them that they aren't all that impressive, then they end up flipping their shit and calling you out by saying things like "well if it's so easy then let me see you do". Seriously, you have no idea how many times I've heard the "let's see your wr" remark.
I've been planning to take a break from STG's, but I thought I'd do something that I feel is expected of me, which would be to do something unexpected...if that even makes sense.

I look forward to passing the flag onto one of my fellow UFO haters while I take a break from STG's. A young hopeful that sees that poorly designed sack of shit, easy game for what it really is.

When I return I'll give you a DDC hard/lunatic wr as well. I play that game better than most of the Japanese super players.
DDC is a game that truly deserves the title of "hardest touhou game" not UFO.

>>11371641
_no

>>11371652
But getting WRs in Touhou is like winning the Special Olympics.

>>11371396
Wow, why are Touhou extras so anticlimactic

General question: What's the easiest lunatic stage 4 in the Touhou series? I want to do some more fun NBND runs.

>>11371750
PCB.

>>11371369
It's about as hard as the EX mode from 13.

I'm a bit suprised that he recreated such similar difficulty after fucking with the stage difficulties.

Between TD and DDC stage 4 got way harder, stage 5 was a bit too easy in both, and stage 6 got harder.

>>11371103
>>11371623
Stop mentioning T. I miss playing him in soku, he was one of the first guys I played with. I miss the PoFV and soku threads too, but everybody went to IRC so there isn't any point to having them anymore. Yeah, I could make them myself, but they always die after 20 or so posts. MaZe is also British, T is from the West side friend.

>>11371652
Touhou is clearly too easy for you if you've gotten a WR in the amount of time that you've played. Please don't stop saying Touhou is harder than arcade games though, it really gets some cute reactions out of farmers, especially if you have scores to back it up. I think you should continue to play for score if you really enjoy it, and if not, you could go full Gus.

Play because you want to prove to people that you're good and you'll kick their asses at it, no matter how much you might hate playing it!

>>11371976
>especially if you have scores to back it up.
he doesn't have any arcade scores to back it up :V

livestream.com/touhougameplay
quality: gif thumbnail

>>11371382
The ones that don't post in these threads are fine, generally amiable people.

>>11371652
>I look forward to passing the flag onto one of my fellow UFO haters while I take a break from STG's. A young hopeful that sees that poorly designed sack of shit, easy game for what it really is.

This implies that there is someone as crazy as you are. And by crazy I mean truly loony.

>>11371976
The replay and score is his, the point was to beat omega, who squeezed him out before by just a million points

>>11372076
MaZe is so great though, he could probably shit on anybody at Ketsui, but he won't play CAVE games because they're shit. /:V ᑈ :V/.

>>11372273
/jp/ just has a lot of mentally unstable people who freak out when people are better than them. They're like Gus, but not nearly as good or dedicated. Outside of /jp/ it's okay, but there are way too many people who shit talk themselves for attention and use :V unironically. Some of the top players can be dicks sometimes, but it's generally a pretty cool community.

>>11372362
I see.

>>11371652
>Those fools act modest about their "achievements" until you actually tell them that they aren't all that impressive, then they end up flipping their shit
This is so very true. The false modesty in this 'community' is sickening.

>>11371976
We can still play Soku if you really want to.

>>11372362
This isn't true. First, it isn't mine. I don't play Touhou.

Second, the point has never been to beat someone else. Scoring is much more about collaboration than competition to me. Nothing beats having brainstorming "conversations" with overseas players through replays because it's the only common "language" you speak.

>>11373342
You're face is sickening.

>>11373342
Agreed. A certain obnoxious someone I unfortunately have the burden of sharing an IRC channel with just can't stop calling himself and everything that he does shit, yet he acts like an elitist cunt by being an asshole to everyone new or worse than him. It's only escalated ever since he beat a "World Record" in a throwaway category on Easy mode from 5 or 6 years ago. With his long blogging/whining about everything he does, he's the walking definition of being two-faced and falsely humble, and there are more western players like that. Not only that, he only plays for score since all the actual good players do, and treats his achievements as nothing more than badges and excuses to use ":V" I honestly prefer players that are outright assholes like MaZe or gus, instead of the two-faced falsely modest players that so violently pollute what little is left of the western STG community.

>>11374461
>instead of the two-faced falsely modest players that so violently pollute what little is left of the western STG community.

Name names you wishy-washy faglord.

>>11374461
You might as well name drop.

>>11374486
I didn't namedrop people that aren't famous on these threads because I was trying to exercise some common courtesy, but since you asked so kindly: Sakurei, Zengeku, SeppoHovi, chumlum, DXK. They are pretty active either here, MotK, the farm or the IRCs, or even all four.

>>11374550
My name's not in there so you're aight by me my nigga.

>>11374550
I want to masturbate to Naut.

>>11374550
>Sakurei
I agree. Although, I don't think the achievements thing fits him.
>Zengeku
Yeah, sure, he spams ":V", ":3" and other emoticons and can sometimes call himself bad, but I think he mostly calls himself okay, and doesn't really shit on newcomers.
>SeppoHovi
He's the only one these all fit. He never disagrees on this, though.
>chumlum
Uh, I don't think any of this fits him. He can sometimes be moody, but that's about it.
>dxk
What? The dude barely ever says anything, and if he does it's about some anime for girls.

Mind providing quotes or links to forum posts by these persons to give your argument some citation.

>>11374550
Sakurei is a pigheaded shitbag.

These threads are getting more and more /vg/, thus becoming non-/jp/ in large amounts.

Back in the day people in these threads used to play the games and discuss about the gameplay, not only trashtalk others or the games for different purposes.

Times do change, and you're obviously allowed to keep the attitude of the STG threads like you want it to be, but they won't belong to /jp/ anymore if they keep being like this, so I'm suggesting moving to /vg/ for that.

Either that or returning to actually talking about the games.

>>11374734
The Touhou Gameplay thread is about /jp/ as you get.

>>11374840
It used to be.

This thread here, however. Is not.

>>11374734
It's sad. I was the only one who even did the challenge last thread.

>>11374854
This thread was poorly made, I don't even think it was meant to be the main Touhou Gameplay thread except for the "STG" in the subject field.

But I agree, there's been too much trashtalk and too little focus on the games in recent threads.

>>11374862
What was the challenge? A challenge sounds fun to me

>>11375216
No vertical DDC. I tried once on lunatic with SakuyaA and got to stage 2 midboss. I didn't put much effort into it because I wanted other people to try to beat me but no one played. :(

>>11375247
That sounds really fun, I want to try even though I've never played DDC. Did the challenge already end, and were there any more rules (like no bombs or certain shottypes only)?

>>11375263
> Did the challenge already end
There's no new challenge, so I guess you could consider it still going. But since no one else even attempted it, maybe we should think of a new challenge for this thread?

>were there any more rules (like no bombs or certain shottypes only)?
I think it was just no vertical, normal/hard/lunatic, any shottype.

>>11375287
So this is the new STG thread then?

>>11375287
So deaths and bombs are allowed in this challenge?

> so I guess you could consider it still going

Then I gladly accept your challenge and I will update you soon.

>maybe we should think of a new challenge for this thread?

Have some confidence in your current challenge!

>>11375297
I guess, unless there's another.

I miss Riz.

>>11375263
>>11375287
http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/11342792#p11342902

You think Touhou 15 will be a phantasmagoria game?

>>11375319
It will be Oculus Rift exclusive.

>>11375319
Hopefully not, we need at least one more normal one to have enough material for the next photo game.

>>11375319
ZUN will quit and become a recluse after his trip to America this month.

>>11375314
Ah, I didn't think to check Warosu.

Midboss Kagerou.

It shouldn't be difficult to get into stage 4. I'm sure the new and brilliant /jp/ will beat me to it.

>>11375330
We'll end up with a scene with Youmu and Yuyuko in TD's stage 1 at this rate.

Wow, this thread full of namedropping, circlejerking and IRC bullshit is absolutely disgusting.

>>11375408
Sounds like a STG thread to me.

>>11375436
We haven't had any circlejerking in a while.

In fact this is the worst it's been in a really long time.

>>11375436
It is "an STG" thread, Anon.

>>11375373
I keep fucking up stage 2. :(
Got about 20 mil, lunatic, sakuya A.

>>11375480
Sounds cool. Keep at it.

>>11375500
What shottype do you think would be best for no vertical? I've been using sakuyaA because of the focused shot and just blowing through bombs to get life pieces.

>>11375500
SakuyaA or ReimuA, probably. I used ReimuB since I tend to be old-fashioned, but anything you're used to should go just fine.

Ok, yeah. SakuyaA seems rather good for this. Using the bomb for a 2.0 and then waiting it out for the 3/8 bomb pieces seems like a good idea during stage portions, but if you can milk out two 2.0's from a single bomb it would obviously be a lot better. (I don't see many places where this could be of use though)

The boss-slowdown thingy seems to make some patterns kind of funky (not necessarily hard), so I reacted in the wrong way with a few and had to bomb stuff in stages 1 and 3 a lot due to it.

Hey, made it to stage 4 post-midboss part. Kinda wanted to see what the boss for the A shots feels like since I never bothered to clear the game on anything but ReimuB and didn't really watch any A replays either. Maybe next time.

Have fun with this, anons. I'll lurk the thread to keep up with your progress.

>>11375636
Stage 4A boss nonspells would have costed at least a bomb each, especially with no-vertical.

It's like one big inbred fuckfest in here. Take the shitposting back to #kusoplay (on rizon!), no one here cares for your irc shit here.

I'll hate myself for posting another piece of this meta bullshit, but it already corrupted the entirety of this thread and you guys deserve to know the truth.

[11:36:07] <-> aaaaanyways the wr replay is T's, obviously, and the stream was also T playing
[11:36:21] <-> he had his roommate talk to you on irc to keep the charade going
[11:36:24] <-> which I guess worked pretty well
[11:36:47] <-> unfortunately
[11:37:21] <*> oh
[11:37:22] <-> I thought the whole thing was pretty stupid but I let him have his fun for a while cuz I'm too nice to him I guess
[11:38:41] <-> but I feel like giving maze any kind of credibility is pretty lame, and he's already using it in stupid ways
[11:39:35] <-> sorry for uh playing along with T I feel kind of bad
[11:40:13] <-> I told him he should come clean and he was like "buhh buhh I'm T" and went to bed
[11:40:17] <-> so I'm doing it
[11:41:02] <-> technically I said "come clean in 6 hours or I blow the lid off it" and he was like "I'd like to tell * because I feel kind of bad" and I was like "well you are here and he is here, sooooo"
[11:41:17] <-> and then he was like "doing laundry" and then he pasted links to cat pictures for a while and then closed irc

>>11376104
"This isn't true. First, it isn't mine. I don't play Touhou.

Second, the point has never been to beat someone else. Scoring is much more about collaboration than competition to me. Nothing beats having brainstorming "conversations" with overseas players through replays because it's the only common "language" you speak."

MaZe is actually T's internet trolling persona?

Do you think there will ever be a superplayer in the same tier as HS and MaZe again?

>>11376329
yes

>>11375636
>>11375373
>>11375247

Are you all the same person? I can't tell if I'm playing with 1 player or 3. Either way great job getting all the way to 4, that's going to be tricky.

I just got to the stage 3 intro for now with sakuya A. I'll update again later if I make significant progress. By the way, Sakuya A's shottype is so much fun, I love it (except when it's nailing the stage 2 boss in its invincible head on that one spellcard)!

>>11376375

I'm
>>11375636
and
>>11375373

The first one is someone else though.

>>11376375
>>11375636
>>11375373
Well this is going much better than the last thread.

-

And just a reminder for everyone, there are still no challenge entries for Normal and Hard difficulties as well as no scoring with MarisaB.
So make sure to try your luck with those as well, especially the less advanced players.

>>11376401
I've never scored in my life in ANY shmup, but I may as well start now and learn with/from a couple other players if the survival challenge doesn't absorb all my time.

How's the scoring system work in DDC? I'd love to see some replays from these challenges to see how different players operate.

>>11376401
Reposting the challenges from the previous thread:

Scoring challenge: DDC scoring on Normal/Hard
1. With MarisaB
2. The run must be done within the thread, no old scores.
3. Either screenshots or replays will be required.

Survival challenge: DDC no vertical on Normal/Hard/Lunatic
1. Survive as long as you can without using vertical movement.
2. Every shot-type is welcome
3. The run must be done within the thread, no old scores.
4. Either screenshots or replays will be required.
5. Whoever gets the farthest wins, tiebreaker will be the amount of lives left.

>>11376453
Well the current score to beat right now is: 0
So I think you may have a chance.

I've yet to play DDC and I haven't played a shmup in a few days, but I'll pump out a shitty run for the challenges in a little bit. Even though I'm hardly a Hard mode player, I'll try for no vert Lunatic, very doubtful I'll make it past ST1 though.

>>11376472
I just started DDC today as well, it's tricky with no vert. Look at it this way, if you can get past stage 1 on lunatic AT ALL then it's the best you've ever done so far and you're carving a personal record to beat the next time. Same goes for stage 2 intro, stage 2 midboss, stage 2 boss etc.

Do your best!

This question is slightly off topic, but I think people here might know: Is there a certain term to use for searches on NND or livestream that everyone uses to tag 2D games? STG works for Touhou and stuff, but I'd also like to watch people play games like Makaimura, Metal Slug, Castlevania, Mega Man, etc.

>>11376498
Thanks dude, I'm trying the MariB scoring challenge right now since Normal is fitting for a shit player like myself. I forgot how to play Touhou anyway, so I doubt I'll even be able to 1cc Normal at this point. Still, the scoring system seems like a lot of fun.

Question time, is my game supposed to be running at 59FPS? It feels like there's a little bit of input delay as well. I'm running in fullscreen 640x480.

>>11377008
Side scrollers?

Now I'm curious.

Is there a point to using MarisaA in DDC at all? What's she good for?

>>11377305
Flamethrowers are awesome.

>>11377040
I played a little more and I was getting <30 FPS on anything past Stage 3 when playing in full screen. Is there any way to fix this? 960x720 leaves a huge black bar under my screen, and 1280x960 isn't supported on my monitor.

I don't like playing windowed.

>>11377338
Just taking a guess here, do you have Windows XP? I saw a windows XP patch for the game. I play mine fullscreen but I always set my monitor's aspect ratio to 4:3 each time.

>>11377373
Nope. Windows 7, 32-bit. The game runs fine in 960x720, but that black bar, I don't like it. It runs perfectly fine in windowed though, but I always dip below 30FPS on the beginning of ST3 in fullscreen. Everything beyond ST2 usually hovers between 30 and 50FPS.

>>11377487
Don't know about the others but changing input latency fixed it for me somehow.

This spellcard is way too hard to capture, for the first Stage 3 Card. And probably impossible to capture without focusing for someone at my level. Doesn't mean I'm going to stop trying though.

>>11377637
I agree. It's obscenely hard.

http://archive.foolz.us/jp/thread/11370081#11370081

>>11377843
LMAO

>>11377500
That seems to have fixed it, but the input delay still feels horribly horrible. Maybe I'm just spoiled by the vsync patch or something.

>>11377981
Yes there still is some input delay, but not enough to ruin the game. vpatches are nice, but please don't rely on them too much.

>>11378044
To be honest, I used it only for EoSD for the longest time. Then I went to vpatching PCB through PoFV. It then spread over to MoF to TD, the silky smoothness in movement is very addicting. I said I'd never stop using the standard version of MAME too, but then I tried shmupmame and never went back, despite knowing it fucks up the sprite buffer or whatever.

I'm a terrible person, but the 0 delay feels so good. I'll just have to deal with it for DDC. I haven't played Touhou without vpatch since 2011 or so, and I haven't played Touhou since September of 2012 because of my lack of motivation, but at least I'm picking up on it far quicker than I thought I would.

>>11377637
I'm using Sakuya A, but Hard feels like a walk in the park in comparison to Lunatic.

>>11377952
it is bretty funny

I made it to the final spellcard of stage 3 as Sakuya A. Fun challenge so far

A kusoclear to encourage people to try the lower difficulties no-vertical.

Do you guys play fullscreen in Touhou?

>>11379839
No, I can't force my monitor to 1:1 scale, so it gets all stretched out.

I just use sizer to stretch the window to the maximum height, and keep shit like irc/messengers on the left or right sides.

>>11377805
>>11378416
Did you guys do it unfocused?

>>11379839
Yes. Fullscreen with aspect ratio set to 4:3

>>11379839
Yes, it's the only way I can play otherwise I look at the time after reaching Stage 3 and go off to do something else. Fullscreen allows me to fully immerse myself in the grind.

I'm still trying that DDC scoring challenge, but I can't get any satisfactory runs. I keep making dumb mistakes in the earlier stages and restarting, so I've only seen Stage 6 one time. At least it isn't DDP where I need to read that engirsh message every time I reset on 1-4. Quick question time, does graze matter in DDC? Right now I'm trying to find some grazing techniques for the bosses, but I wonder if it makes enough of an impact to even bother with it.

>>11380411
I think it increases point value by 10 every 10 graze.

>>11378484
What's so funny about censorship you moron?

How can you say you're a true fan of mine if you don't post your lewd bits with my name next to it? Seppo took it upon himself to go first.
Seriously though, fuck this stupid cunt for trying to get me banned from everywhere, then being idiotic enough to send me pictures of his dick.

>>11380937
lol

>>11380937

>>11380937
Cute dick, dude.

bump this shit

>>11381056

was that /mu/ maze? i'm having flashbacks

Please give me some protips for Mystic Square, I usually get devastated on Yumeko and fuck up at Shinki. I'm playing on Hard mode.

>>11371763
Yeah I don't know why but it feels like Prismrivers and Youmu get barely any harder from normal -> lunatic.

>>11382086
yumeko is harder than shinki

tip is git gud

>>11382252
Some of the Prismrivers have legitimately difficult nons or spellcards, though they can be avoided. Besides Lily White and the final fairy, the stage from a survival standpoint is the easiest.

>>11382309
>the final fairy
It's static.

>>11380234
A mix. What would be the point of Sakuya A unfocused?

I could probably do a Luantic no focus capture if you want.

I didn't think I'd find a game that would make me restart more than DoDonPachi, especially not so late into the game! I hated DDC at first like with DDP, but now I'm really starting to grow attached to it after binding ESC+R to the side button of my stick.

Three hours played and I've already done 532 plays according to the game, this shit is brutal.

Who's Maze? I keep hearing his/her/its name mentioned

>>11383821
superplayer

>>11383821
One of the best players in the west

>>11383821
Best shmup player in the world currently.

>>11382356
Ah. That's pretty cool. I'm trying a MariB unfocused capture. I'm not a Lunatic player and I'd want to try for myself before looking at replays. I'm pretty close to doing it but I always end fucking up because of MINOR miscalculations.

>>11383949
>1/1173

Looks like just about every single spellcard in DS and StB for me.

>>11383821
me

Does anybody else just not feel like they have the same love for these games as other people? I'm not nearly as loud nor vocal while playing as opposed to the higher up players, who constantly yell and act really hyper, bopping up and down in their seats while people watch them play.

I feel like I really like dot dodgers, but not as much as these people. I mean, I've had a few outbursts of happiness while playing a really good run, but nothing as major as what I've seen.

>>11384213
>I'm not nearly as loud nor vocal while playing as opposed to the higher up players, who constantly yell and act really hyper, bopping up and down in their seats while people watch them play.

So you're saying you want to have ADHD?

>>11384213
Don't think "excitement" should be put in the same category as "enjoyment."

>>11384213
Don't be stupid. You only see other people behave like that because they behave like that. The people that are more like you don't get any attention.

how do i get m y scoreto increase faster

is there any easy way to do this part (1-5) with A-S?

>>11385541
first and foremost, make sure you git gud. have you done that yet?

Should I risk milking this card for graze?

Hey guys, have you heard of Valhellio? I thought it would be the ultimate /jp/ thing, I mean it's a VN and a shmup, seriously.

...Not like I've played it or anything, this is all hearsay. But it's got artwork by Tony Taka!

Pic unrelated.

>>11386556

Oh and website: http://www.valhellio.com/top.html

PV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXcic3Rn0aI&autoplay=1

Finally! I'm free! Hooray!

My execution suddenly got bad again for no real reason, and it's not from any breaks because I've been playing nonstop for the past three days. I'm missing down-left inputs and down microtaps, even though I was doing them easily not too long ago.

I don't get it. I checked out an input display and I always see it going like ↓←. I'm not sure if the d-pad is just busted or if I'm just really inconsistent, but it's always very discouraging when this happens.

After almost a month of playing, I finally beaten EoSD on normal with Marisa B.

I played EoSD for the first week. After not not being able to beat it, I played PCB for two weeks. After not being able to beat PCB, I went back to EoSD. Then, EoSD became quite easier, and I beaten it a few days.

Right after winning I had this euphoric feeling. I know nobody cares, but I wanted to share my accomplishment with someone. I'm probably going to try UFO out, since I like Byakuren. However, it's supposedly the hardest, so I'm going to have a hard time.

Played TH03 yesterday, what's the "Dim." in the title "[...] Dim. Dream" stand for? And why didn't ZUN write it out on the title screen.

So, recently I've been playing UFO on normal.

This morning I got all the way to Hijiri with 3 lives and 1 bomb (furthest I've ever gotten without using continues).

When I got to the last spellcard, I had no lives and one bomb left. I had no idea how the spellcard worked and I got distracted by those ring things and literally slammed right into the first frikkin' bullet.

ei vituta.jpg

And let's just say for the record, I haven't cleared a single touhou game 1cc on normal. Yet.

>>11388129
UFO's probably a bit tricky Normal to have for a first 1cc, considering how the UFO system requires some memorization and gathering the tokens.

You could try an easier Normal for your first 1cc. I usually suggest either IN or PCB.

>>11386597

>>11388129
that card is one of the five hardest and most ridiculous to capture in any of the flagship title games on normal.

Right on up there with Astronomical Entombing and Dragon Necklace from Erin and Kaguya.

I think I captured it once and that was on accident. The final waves become too difficult to keep track of every sutra's trajectory and speed, sort of like the last ten seconds of that survival card in DDC Extra, or Suwako's second survival card, or Koishi's bullshit Rosarch in Danmaku.

>>11388151
By the way, the card can be memo'd.

>>11388134
I wasn't actively aiming for 1cc, but it just almost happened. At this point, I'd be happy just by simply clearing some touhou game on normal. So far, the only one I've cleared (on normal) is TD, but it took 2 or 3 continues.

I've gotten all the way to Yuyuko couple of times, but I got bored of PCB and stopped playing it.

As for IN, I think it's considerably harder. I still haven't got to the 6th stage on normal, but then again, I haven't played it that much.

>>11388172
Hey, you should be able to 1cc TD no problem. I can't even make it to Stage 5 of NUFO but I was able to 1cc TD in three days of practice. If a dipshit like me can do it, you can too!

>>11388184
Yeah, you're probably right. Couple of runs, some spellcard practice and I should be set to go.
I just haven't been in the mood for playing TD.

does jp like other STGs?
I went to the arcade today and the military style ones look pretty cool

>>11388210
Afterburner is fun

>>11388210
I'm a fan of CC and I like watching when people stream cave games.

>>11388210
I like other STGs but I'm too shit to play them so I only watch

>>11388172

DDC and LLS were the easiest normal 1ccs for me. In DDC you can bomb spam everything as SakuyaA. LLS just has derp enemies and a very easy final boss.

The best advice is to just stick to one game you like and keep practicing it. Bouncing around between games won't help you as much.

>>11388224
The one i saw today was called Raiden.
It didn't look that hard at least to start with

>>11388172
You should focus on collecting time points then you'll be able to get to stage 6, all 6 continues would be available then. Collect time points in Stages 1 to 3, try not to die on Stage 4. Stage 5 is easier than Stage 4. Try to collect as many point items as you can; you can get all extends before Stage 6. Try to unlock all of Kaguya's spells and practice the fuck out of them, if you're going for a B clear. That's how I got my IN 1CCs anyways.

>>11388255
>try not to die
That sounds a bit unorthodox, but I guess I can give it a shot.

Collecting timepoints in the first three stages is no problem, but the fourth stage is a royal pain in the ass. Also, I don't really like using continues, because after dying couple of times, I lose all will to live and start making stupid decisions to the point, that it would be wiser to just start again from the beginning.

lol, just beat ddc lunatic - even easier than td

>>11388237
Raiden Fighters Jet is the "easiest" according to some tournament players around here.

How? I don't fucking know, it kicks my dick in every time I play it and it pisses me off. Great game though, but I bet I'd have a lot more fun if I had nautrally grown talons.

>>11388293
The point of using continues is to unlock the stages for practice mode.

>>11388304
lol

Is putting ketchup in the fridge really that big of a deal? I mean who the fuck eats lukewarm ketchup, that's gross.

>>11388322

To be fair, most fast food ketchup is not refrigerated.

I like cold ketchup on hot dogs, but room temperature ketchup on burgers.

>>11388322
That's why you store it in a cool, dry place, e.g. a cupboard. Cold ketchup is more disgusting than room temperature ketchup, especially if you're adding it to hot food.

Still not as bad as fridge bread.

>>11384213

That's because they have an audience. I do that, when you're with other people you're compelled to use vocalization and body language to convey how you feel. When I'm alone, I'm just quite.

>>11388340

Whoa now. Nothing is wrong with fridge bread; it keeps longer. If you eat it cold right out of the fridge, yeah, you're retarded, but I usually make grilled cheese or something out of it, so there shouldn't be a problem.

fuck

Janitor-san, why do you leave up shitposting threads, topkek and doge macros, but meticulously prune and snip posts about bread and ketchup?

Just curious.

>>11388341
You're quite... what?

>>11388349
as i said i cleared but i cant select that, how do i get the secret spellcard?

>>11388355
Quite quiet.

>>11388357
stage 4 has 2 different boss battles depending which shot type you chose at the beginning (A or B), you need a B type to unlock the #4-#6 cards on stage 4

Stage 3 restarts for eight hours, missing at the same attack which completely screws over my score for the rest of the run.

I give up. There's only so many runs I can do before I finally feel like I'm not improving at all and I think I've reached my limit for now.

>>11389563
Eight hours is pretty intense, man. What level are you playing at?
I see much more improvement in my game by playing short bursts throughout the day - maybe 3 hours per day, a few credits at a time.

If you can't focus, don't force it.

my touhou thread on /v/ was just deleted... does that mean the games can only be discussed on /jp/? I'm confused.

I thought /jp/ hated retards like me coming to talk about the games.

>>11389641
It got deleted because you're a weeaboo fag.

Just make another thread and hope the trugaymer guys don't notice and report it.

>>11389669
>weeaboo fag.

Im not a weaboo

>>11389612
Attempting to score in DOJBL and DDC Hard, low level player. I have an idea on what to do, but I don't have enough exposure to the later levels in either game because I restart so much. I started with DOJ, it was very enjoyable until I started making idiotic mistakes on easy stuff. Switched to DDC, didn't make it past Stage 3 once because I messed up and missed on Kagerou like a dipshit each time, insta ESC+R. Normally, I'd just use practice mode after getting so frustrated, but today I decided to just keep slapping in credits and rage restarting.

To be fair, I didn't really get much sleep last night so instead of taking a nap, I played STGs instead. It wasn't a very good idea to play STGs while sleep deprived, but it wasn't like there was much else to do. I think 3 hours was around the time that I started getting upset with the game and switched, I knew I should have just stopped there. I usually just play for two or so hours a day, but I needed to keep myself awake.

>>11389678
I'm a usually normal player, so maybe the same regime doesn't apply, and I shouldn't even continue giving you advice.
I've played a ton of DDC Hard credits though, and Kagerou was a showstopper every single time. For the record, I can usually reach at least stage 4 on any other 2hu, bar SA, without that much effort.
DDC is another beast, personally. There are a lot of attack types in that game that I just can't deal with, and Kagerou seems to embody them all. All she need's is star bullets and she'd be my official worst boss ever.

>>11389704
No, it's okay. I'm normally a Normal player, but I felt that if I was going to fail horribly at scoring, I'd might as well get some experience with Hard mode as well. I'm honestly happy I was able to NMNB Stage 1 and 2 consistently, it made me feel somewhat better, regardless of how trivial they might be. I should just try to 1cc and unlock everything in stage practice, but those early game deaths man, they hurt so much.

I don't start dying until Stage 4 on Normal, but I never really make it past Stage 3 because I'm always resetting because of a scoring mistake anyway, so it's pretty much the same deal for both Normal and Hard. I want to get better so I can spend more time with Kagerou and the other bosses, Wackysacky and Sexybanki have gotten far too much love from me.

>>11388353

I'm playing through all the touhou games I skipped (PCB, IN, MoF) and I managed to 1cc them all on normal.

I'm playing SA now and Orin is wrecking my shit. Any tips? I wish SA had spell practice.

>>11388130

"Dimensional". No idea why the full thing's not there. Maybe it's a Japanese slang thing; there are other, similarly shortened words, but I can't seem to get any to come to mind right now.

Miku's "Playtime is over" non-spell. Am I supposed to stream it? It almost literally doesn't matter which direction I try leading the knives, it's either die or bomb.
Replays don't seem to help at all. I just can't figure it out, whether I'm playing or watching a perfect play.

Miko's "Playtime is over" non-spell. Am I supposed to stream it? It almost literally doesn't matter which direction I try leading the knives, it's either die or bomb.
Replays don't seem to help at all. I just can't figure it out, whether I'm playing or watching a perfect play.

>>11391827

>>11389641
There's no reason why the games can't be talked about on both boards, Touhou's both an (almost) 2 decade long video game series and Otaku Culture.

>>11391995
>Am I supposed to stream it?
No.

>It almost literally doesn't matter which direction I try leading the knives
The knives aren't aimed, you can't lead them.
It's a ticky pattern but it's still static though.
Try moving up and down, not just left, right.
Also, when watching a replay ignore the player's hitbox and pay attention to how the knives overlap and cross each other.

>>11392038
>pay attention to how the knives overlap and cross each other.
Okay. Rewatched one of Jaimer's replays and saw a very clear path I'd never noticed, thanks.
Still, it really felt like I was getting somewhere by streaming it. I suppose that's just ZUN fucking with me again.

I've seen some people have MASTER on their spell histories in DDC, what exactly is that?

>>11392280
capture it 100 times

>>11392297
Why would someone bother with that?

>>11392305
to be MASTER?

>>11392305
It's a side effect of dedicated play, you dork.

MarisaB scoring, hard.

>Whoa now. Nothing is wrong with fridge bread; it keeps longer.

Bread goes off faster in the fridge than in a bread bin.

>>11392025
This helped. Thanks.

It feels really silly that I just managed to clear the extra with MarisaB with my entire stock of lives full. And I lost a couple during the fight.

Just when I thought I was actually getting good at DDP, I drop the 1-2 chain a million times. Great, I love forgetting how to do things for no real reason. Looks like I won't be able to contribute anything to the competitive scene anytime soon. Shit tier casual player for life I guess. ;_;

>>11399857
ｂｅ ｒｅｂｏｒｎ ｊａｐａｎｅｓｅ

>>11399857
the 1-2 chain is brutally difficult. I'm happy every single time I pull it off. You should be too.

>>11400212
I know! It took me like a year to get it down consistently, it took so much grinding to be able to get to the mid boss of the stage without dropping it. Only a few weeks ago did I get it down 100% of the way, but now I've seemingly forgot how to do it. I was pretty upset at the time and overreacted to my sudden recurrent shitplay, but yes, I'm extremely happy when I can chain the first three stages well enough.

I just kept dropping it and restarting, my frustration just kept piling up and maybe that's why I made the same mistake over and over again, it clouded my judgement I guess.

>>11400358
Don't beat yourself up over it. Chaining is a bad mechanic.

>>11400368
I hate chaining right now, awful scoring mechanic but it feels so good. It doesn't feel right to abandon the game though, it's almost as if I need to play this competently before I can move on to playing for score in other STGs. Beside that, I want to contribute something useful to the community, like a good replay or something.

Good grief, I really don't like this game today. This is probably the furthest I've gotten since I started playing today, actually I chained it once but then I died to the 1-2 boss for some reason I dunno.

>>11400633
you know how the tanks come out, and if you speedkill them they come out twice?

My block was that I didn't realize you should speedkill the first one so that you get two tanks of delay before slowly going over to not speedkill the second.. that means when the tank bursts with laser you chain right onto that flowers producer thing.

you might have a completely different chain going though so feel free to ignore all that.

>>11400358
I'm working on this for the fist time: I've only got down the chain up to flowers part about 70% consistency and from then on I'm still exploring - have pulled of a chain right up to the midboss once and it feels amazing. Going to record a video or .inp once I have a solid chain.

>>11400633
Play a game you enjoy, silly.

>>11400633
There's not point forcing yourself to play a game with a scoring system you don't enjoy, Cave's got plenty of varied systems to have fun with.

>>11400633
There's no point forcing yourself to play a game with a scoring system you don't enjoy, Cave's got plenty of varied systems to have fun with.

>>11400689
>>11400696
> playing shmups for fun

>>11400743
I can have fun playing for score too, you know.

Each shmup is like its own brand of Marmite, you'll either love it or it just doesn't leave a good taste in your mouth at all.

Has anyone made progress with the challenges? I can consistently get to Kagerou with Sakuya A on novert lunatic.

>>11400667
Damn dude, you're already making better and faster progress than me and you've just started playing. Best of luck to you, exploring chaining routes is the most fun I've had playing DDP. I didn't get as frustrated while playing until I started to optimize my routes and adapt superplay strategies.

>>11400689
>>11400696
I'm going to be restarting ST3 regardless of which game I play though man. I just can't stop it, the chaining system has turned me into a raging perfectionist with a desire for that perfect run, no matter how much I tell myself that I won't restart, it happens anyway.

>>11400755
Scoring is really fun, in fact, it's gotten me to play these games a lot more, but it's so frustrating when you constantly butcher everything in your run.

>>11400808
I completely forgot about the DDC scoring challenge. ;_; I'm sorry.

Anyways, >>11388129, please listen to me. That it's really related to this thread.
I went to #kusoplay a while ago; you know, #kusoplay?
Well anyways there was an insane number of people there, and I couldn't get in.
Then, I looked at the channel topic, and it had "tips on quickly 1ccing" written on it.
Oh, the stupidity. Those idiots.
You, don't come to IRC just to get a 1cc, fool.
It's only a 1cc, a ONE CREDIT CLEAR for crying out loud.
There're even entire families here. Family of 4, all out for some shmups, huh? How fucking nice.
"Alright, daddy's gonna try the Extra." God I can't bear to watch.
You people, I'll give you a 1cc if you get out of those seats.
IRC should be a bloody place.
That tense atmosphere, where two guys can start a PoFV match at any time,
the scoring mentality, that's what's great about this place.
Women and children should screw off and stay home.
Anyways, I was about to start streaming, and then the bastard beside me goes "want to see a pacifist run?"
Who in the world plays pacifist nowadays, you moron?
I want to ask him, "do you REALLY want to play the whole game without shooting?"
I want to interrogate him. I want to interrogate him for roughly an hour.
Are you sure you don't just want to try saying "pacifist run"?
Coming from a /jp/ veteran such as myself, the latest trend among us vets is this, lunatic no bomb.
That's right, lunatic no bomb. This is the vet's way of playing.
Lunatic no bomb means you give every spell card all you've got. But on the other hand the difficulty is a tad higher. This is the key.
And then when you clear, it's delicious. This is unbeatable.
However, if you attempt this then there is danger that you'll be marked by the score-runners as a survivalfag from next time on; it's a double-edged sword.
I can't recommend it to amateurs.
What this all really means, though, is that you, >>11388129, should just stick with your one credit clear.

>>11401036
i approve of this

>>11400368
It's actually great mechanic because it feels wonderful to connect everything after you manage to git gud.

>>11401095
It feels excellent when you successfully chain; however, the punishment for missing one "link" (so to say) in the chain is far too severe for it to be enjoyable...

>>11401036
IRC used to be pretty ruthless. I was banned from #IaMP for being such a shitty player a few years ago, good way to scare off players and then bitch about the game being dead a few minutes afterwards. I only wanted to learn how to play and they were such huge bullies about it, but that's IRC for you I guess. ;_; I think this is why I beat myself up while I play shmups all the time because of this traumatic experience with competitive games. I strive to become better to contribute to the community I guess.

>>11401095
Feels great when you do it, soul crushing when you fuck up like a retard and have to start the game over because of that single mistake.

>>11401102
It reminds me of links in SF, miss that shit and you lose half of your health. Soul crushing, but not as bad as losing a run to 1-4 for the 100th time. It's my own fault I fucked it up and I need to work on improving my skill at the game. In the long run, it'll help my patience and STG skills in general. Hopefully.

Would it hurt for the DDP player(s) to post something positive just one time? a positive experience? anything?

>>11401174
I was able to get a 106 chain in 1-1 this evening, up to and including the midboss. This is the best I have performed on 1-1.

I deleted my IN score.dat file. It's pretty refreshing to start over.

>>11401174
No miss no bombed 1-5 when I was really sick and I was too zoinked out to practice chains. Sadly, I didn't manage to NMNB the boss because I hardly have any practice against him. I decided to be ballsy and abuse the safe spots and I died to him, but it's not a big deal I guess. I dropped bombs on his ass afterwards anyway.

It was a lot of fun just half assing my chain and going on with it, I felt like I improved a lot by playing the stage and ignoring the chain after dropping it instead of resetting. I'll try to be more positive when I play DDP, no guarantee though.

• watching a japanese guy stream mushihimesama futari maniac mode
• he's casually chatting with his viewers, laughing, talking about which girl is the best love lab
• gets a top 10 score on the leaderboards without even trying
• meanwhile, i'm trying my hardest, raging at every mistake i make and can't get a good score to save my life

;___;

How can I get better at crossing bullet patterns?
Mishaguji-sama, The Autumn Sky and a Maiden's Heart, 3rd stage of Hourai Elixir (green bullets), etc
I'm just generally bad at them and they easily intimidate me

>>11404822
Timeout SFN. It works.

>>11403806
Is that your way of avoiding greening while still retaining your braindead /v/ writing style? Awful.

>>11404828
Is that your way of showing how frustrated you are because you can't ask who he's quoting? :^)

>>11403806
who are you quoting?

>>11404826
What's that?

>>11403806
I love seeing people having so much fun when playing an STG, but I'm not sure how they do it. I always start out fine for an hour, but then when I notice that I haven't improved in months I get really upset and frustrated with myself and the game.

I couldn't even think of talking when I'm trying I'm trying to score, yet everybody else seems to be able to do it effortlessly. Maybe it's something that comes with experience, but I just can't imagine myself chatting with a bunch of people and commentating on my game while I play.

>>11401174
I completely understand the stage 5 chain in SDOJ now and managed to beat Hibachi in practice with 2 lives in stock.

Progression is nice.

>>11405362
Saigyouji Flawless Nirvana I'm guessing

>>11403806
who r u bulleting

How many spellcards do I have to capture to unlock Phantasm, again? Tell me it's not more than 100!

>>11405713
60. Don't forget there are additional spellcards per difficulty from Merlin, Lunasa, and Lyrica in stage 4.

>>11405904
Thanks. I should get it done pretty fast, then.

Deathbomb timing is killing me.
Is there any tool or danmakufu game to get a better idea of how big the window is, and how by how long I missed it?

Any tips on timing out this spell card? It's a static pattern that's aimed at you, but it's so fast that I don't have time to react: I tried always being in the middle when it fires then rushing out to one side before dodging through it inwards - misdirection is also possible but that's the best strategy so far.

>>11406354
People in /vr/ seemed to be having a ton of trouble with that. I don't understand. You just move to the side and weave through the blue bullets.
I also must ask why you are asking about timing out a spell card.

Does anyone know what that fighter game is that they have in movie theater/laundromat arcades.

It's not like Raiden or whatever the planes are fairly big and I remember you can have like 6-8 choices - you can be a B2 or a biplane or a jet. I think it's the second game in the series.

>>11406626
Strikers 1945 II.

Any tips on capturing Yamame's first card on lunatic?

>>11405992
It's useless information unless you're playing MoF. Even then, you should have no problem deathbombing unless your setup has 4+ frames of latency.

>>11406679
Don't get hit by the bullets as they pull in. Don't get hit by the bullets as they spread out.

>>11406679
Move diagonally or hold down at the bottom of the screen to micro-micro-dodge.

>>11406679
My bad, I wanted to say first attack so it's in fact a non-spell.

>>11406758
If she moves down, Esc R.

Tips for Byakuren's 3rd nonspell on normal?

>>11406769
dodge more
no really it's one of her easiest patterns

>>11406773
It's her hardest nonspell on Normal. Last one is memo.

>>11406783
Wow yeah the rest were super easy, my bad. Haven't Normal'd in a while.
really though there is no strategy besides maybe "don't dodge too much horizontally"

>>11406766
Didn't work, that made me restart the game.

Still doing the No-Bomb runs. The route is getting better bit-by-bit and I'm quite content with it up to the Prismrivers now.

This one can be pushed to 1.7B, and then I'll have to look into learning the bomb usage, proper supergrazing and other things. Most likely I'll never bother. Perhaps.

>>11407807
Keep doing it. Eventually, she won't move down.

>>11408592
No, seriously, I can do the first three stage fine except that one attack.

>>11408624
It's RNG brosephiroth. If she moves down, there is literally no way to dodge it unless you're a part of the SA Trinity. ESC+R it until you get good RNG from there.

>>11408624
Unless you're insanely good, there isn't really any way out of it if she moves down.

You can try to steel it out if she does go down, but, frankly, Esc > R and praying to RNG has a much higher chance of working.

>>11408624
>>11408668
>>11408701
It's very possible to survive Yamame going 'too low' during the 1st non. Usually, you slowly stream the red bullets amongst the blue, but if she moves down too low then you'll want to move a lot further left/right once the red bullets start moving towards you. Try to move far enough so that you are away from the lowest spawning red bullets.

Watch UKT's WRs with ReimuA and B for examples of when Yamame goes 'too low' and how he deals with it.

Goddamn, I can't nail the timing in C-2 in Deathsmiles so that I can go straight back into power up mode right after coming out of it, essentially staying in power up mode for the whole stage. Half the points I could be get getting on that stage are going down the drain, but I suppose I should at least be satisfied that I'm acquiring both 1-ups by the middle of my second stage.

I don't know why I'm getting so anal about scoring when I haven't even seen the final stage yet but whatever, I'm still having fun. It was nice to double my score since yesterday and start hitting the 6th stage consistently before getting overwhelmed by suicide bullets. Looks like I need to practice option placement while I'm at it too.

How do you deal with upsets?

I'm trying really hard to improve my execution since I'm sick of misinputting a diagonal on this pad, but I'm also getting very upset, I don't know if it's me or the pad and it's tearing me apart. On one hand, I'm terrible at the game, but on the other, my pad is really old. It's a constant struggle.

Speaking of which, I'm consistently getting crappy 1-alls again, but that's only because I said fuck restarting after resetting 1-2 for five hours the other day. My heart can't take good runs being ruined by a dumb misinput, makes me feel like crying every time I die because I missed a diagonal input. Lord knows how many times I've died at the green ships of 1-3 because of my piss poor execution.

>>11409542
Take a day or two off, it sometimes helps. Maybe play something else while you're at it.

But the hardware might be a problem for you too. I recently replaced the Sanwa stick in my HRAP PRO SA V3 (what a mouthful) with a Seimitsu LS-56 because I found the former a little too loose and I was miss-inputting diagonals way too often.

At the end of the day, you just need to take it easy. Being frustrated while you play is just going to lead to worse performance.

>>11409542
get a stick m8

dpads are too sloppy

I just 1cc'd EoSD easy mode today! Cirno beat the heck out of me in my first go but I got the hang of it in the second try.

>>11409542
> Lord knows how many times I've died at the green ships of 1-3 because of my piss poor execution

those ones that come out of nowhere? If you use cancels well you barely have to dodge anything at all in that stage... then again maybe you have a crazy scoring route that's difficult to perform?

>>11409629
>stick
-> STG
-> literally only 8 directions with no analog movement

TOP
FUCKING
LOLS

>>11409651
Arcade sticks aren't analog.

>>11409648
To cancel shitloads of bullets you have to play dangerously

>>11409685
ah, I've seen prometheus do that. super scary.

It is just me or this spellcard is too damn easy?

>>11409772
Time it out.

>>11409788
Oh yeah, it becomes harder.
But it's counterproductive that way. (score wise I mean)

>>11409830
You might not always be at full power in a full run so timing it down is good practice. At least until it gets to the batshit part.

>>11409556
Taking a break is great for clearing my mind after some shitty runs, but it feels like I'm just putting off the inevitable when I do so. I was thinking it was my d-pad because it feels really loose compared to my PS2 d-pads.

>>11409629
I have a stick, but I was an idiot and bought wireless since I thought I'd never need to use it on PC. At least I only paid $20 for it since I was able to grab it second hand. On the bright side, I can use it for any of the 360 shmups that I have, but I don't feel like I should play them until I kick DDP's ass first.

>>11409648
I'm shit. I don't even know why I started dying there again, it's just that this past week or so has been terrible. My execution seems to have taken a huge nosedive, failing to input diagonals everywhere. It's happened in the past, but only after huge breaks. I'm just dying everywhere and I don't have a clue why, I actually died to the 1-2 boss in 15 runs and had to go lay down. I was actually sad after that.

how much better can I get at shmups by playing them in my head? (when im not able to play it on the computer)

>>11410879
pretty good, I read that some famous pianist was convicted for 20 year or someshit and played in his head every day in prison, when he was released he had retained all of his ability despite not having touched a piano since.

All right, got sick of my diagonals dropping on pad so I'm going to play on keyboard until I can get a new stick. How long will it take me to get used to this? It feels really nice and precise, but I'm getting my ass kicked really hard right about now.

>>11414760
You'll get used to it eventually, maybe a few days to a week, just keep at it.

Is there a "hardest boss in Touhou"? Or is it all subjective? I'm playing PCB's Phantasm, which is technically the hardest stage in one of the hardest games, yet it feels very easy.

>>11416127
Your post is so stupid that I don't even know how to reply to it.

>>11416139
Feel free to insult me in any way you see fit.

>>11416127
>technically the hardest stage in one of the hardest games

Are you daft?

>>11416127

I've seen people say Evil Eye Sigma is the hardest Extra boss. I'm not enough of a Super Player to know firsthand.

>>11416151
Well, it is supposed to be the hardest stage in the game and PCB is often said to be among the harder games, as well as SA.

>>11416185
I'm not going to waste my time, but someone else probably will reply to you.

Everything in your posts are wrong and I invite you to play the games more until you understand why.

>>11416185
I'm not going to waste my time, but someone else probably will reply to you.

Everything in your posts is wrong, and I invite you to play the games more until you understand why.

>>11416197
Fair enough.

>>11416127
It is more fitting to say Phantasm is the true Extra stage in PCB, difficulty-wise. PCB's Extra is really all too easy for an extra stage compared to the others. It exists for the plot progression instead.

My two cents. PCB Phantasm and other Extras fall in between Normal and Hard. A few might be as difficult as Hard, but not quite. Objectively, the Extra stages are shorter, yet give a generous amount of resources. Additionally, some of the spellcards/nonspells are trivial or memo.

I wanted to share it here because you all helped me pick this game as my first STG. I finally got my goal of .8b in PCB normal with ReimuA. I know it's a sort of weak score but I'm happy with it because it's something I worked hard for.

I wanted to share it here because you all helped me pick this game as my first STG. I finally got my goal of .8b in PCB normal with ReimuA. I know it's a sort of weak score but I'm happy with it because it's something I worked hard for.

Oh wow.


All this time I thought those were meteors. They were the top of umbrellas? Wow.

>>11388151
>that card is one of the five hardest and most ridiculous to capture in any of the flagship title games on normal.

We can't be thinking about the same card

>Anonymous 9 days ago
/jp/ really

>>11388225
Bouncing between games has helped me a lot, I started being able to play better after playing almost all of them.

>>11388151
You think Rorschach in Danmaku is bullshit?

Ok lads I need some help, the survival players are laughing at me because I can't clear lunatic without bombs. Which game do you think is easiest to clear without bombs on lunatic? I was thinking maybe SA or IN. What do you guys think?

>>11418309
IN or TD?

>>11388151
Omoikane's Brain is harder than Astronomical Entombing.

>>11418309
PCB.

>>11418309

LLS. LLS lunatic is like PCB normal.

Man, these NB clears sure are difficult and require capturing most of the spell cards!

>>11419527
Whom are you quoting?

> Recently finished playing the games on hard mode.
> Move onto lunatic.
> Blow through all of the games, getting my 1cc for each of them in a matter of hours
> Been stuck on TD for 5 days.

How is this easy? Die 3 times = gameover?

>>11419527
If you're dodging bullets, you're playing TD incorrectly.

Remember when these games were trying to be good STGs instead of trying to be "pretty"?

Why are these even so popular, again? There are much better shmups out there.

>>11419567
>Remember when these games were trying to be good STGs instead of trying to be "pretty"?

6 - 9 were pretty...pretty boring. Patterns are so slow and obviously designed for purely aesthetic purposes. 11 and 12 had true danmaku dodging.
I can't really speak for 13 because it's boring. I haven't played enough for 14 to make a judgment.

>>11419580
You missed a game.

>>11419580
Well I appreciate your opinions. I guess that's a fair enough post.

I just feel like Touhou fans are missing out on real danmaku games, the ones ZUN is trying to emulate. It's like Touhou is Twilight (completely with cancerous fan base) and CAVE/Toaplan/etc. shooters are Bram Stoker, Universal Pictures, Hammer Horror, all that good stuff.

>>11419580
>11 and 12 had true danmaku dodging.
Hahaha

>>11419582
I'm not sure how I feel about 10. It felt as "fast" as 11 and 12 but wasn't difficult.
6-9 can be difficult, but it just feels too "slow". I can't explain it that well. Sorry.

>>11419586
I don't think ZUN is trying to copy CAVE/Toaplan. His games very clearly are going for something different.

>>11419591
Read his interviews and the "behind the scenes" sections of his books.

>>11419594
I'll check them out. If he IS trying to copy them, he is doing a very bad job. Touhou is very distinct from other STGs.

>>11419567
>Remember when these games were trying to be good STGs
no

Rate me /stg/. I've been working on making a new danmaku game were you have to evade the many spots that plague my face, but right now I can't release it because it's just so dense that you'd never be able to make it through without bomb spamming.
If you are like me, aka an ugly cunt, please don't hesitate to follow me on twitter!
https://twitter.com/VgameT

I cannot get a satisfactory route for Stage 1 of DDC. This is what it must be like to be a fucking failure, shit at survival and scoring, can't do either properly. I'll have to settle with ending ST1 at a staggeringly shitty score of 15M, but it still won't stop me from restarting ST2 and 3 over and over again arrrrgh. ;_;

I miss when I was completely oblivious to tournament level play, I never reset unless I died on ST1, but now I reset as far in as ST5 if the mistake is dumb enough. The lack of improvement and incompetence on my part doesn't help either, people getting LNBs and being survival players first and foremost, and still being able to blow my progress away in a fraction of the time hurts like fuck too.

>>11419659
What difficulty and shot type are you using?

>>11419676
I'm trying to score for the Normal challenge, so MariB. I've only watched enough superplays to know that ending Stage 1 with 15M is terrible, and that messing up anywhere in ST2 or 3 should be an instant reset. Hell, I've only seen ST4 once in two weeks of playing this game because of how often I reset.

Yeah, I know it's only Normal, but god dammit man, I should not be making such stupid mistakes. I said I was going to go for a straight 1cc before deciding to play for score, but I just can't help myself. ESC+R is simply too tempting when you've made major scoring mistakes in a run.

After weeks of intense practice and experimentation I finally pulled off a midboss/300chain in st2... then I lost the no-miss bonus. (run ended with 18m which isn't even my pb for runs without this chain - I am the most pathetic dodonpachi player)

whats the best way to dodge this pattern>?

>>11421217
oops didn't mean to hit spoil

soz >_<

>>11421079
>I finally pulled off a midboss/300chain

congrats! that's great dude! i've never gotten past 180ish

>>11421079
I've started losing the stage 2 chain AFTER the midboss, when I should be home free. Many times I've been concentrating on what I was shooting and didn't notice the powerup float into me.

>>11421079
>>11421607
I used to be able to make it to 1-4 100% of the time and chain the all of 1-1 through 1-3 no problem, now I just barely make it past the midboss each time.

What the flaming fuck happened? It's like I went back to month-1 level play, I actually miss restarting on 1-4 and cursing at it, at least there was a minor break between the upsets in that case. Now I'm constantly just restarting and getting frustrated if I break the 1-2 or 1-3 chain, which is now 80% of the time. I was consistently making it to ST4 in DDC in August too, but now I can't even make it past ST3 because of my restartitis and scoreplay. Every other run has me saying, "fuck this game long chaining" and hitting ESC+R or F3 depending on if I'm playing DDC or DDP. It's so upsetting, I just want to play for score and have fun with it, I'm sick of playing the early stages for hours and hours with no notable improvements.

>>11419659
>>11419942
Stop being such a fucking downer

>>11421631
I'm sorry, it's just upsetting when you've been playing for weeks and can't make any progress.

>>11419586
I tried to play a non-2hu STG once. Dear god, never again.

2hu is too hard. ZUN-sama-dono should start catering to the CoD audience.

Is there any way to change the key bindings in the game itself without using an external keymapper?

>>11423056
The entire fun of Touhou is the satisfaction of overcoming a difficult challenge though. I don't think many people have to try to overcome their challenges since they all seem to start out on Lunatic no problem, but I get joy out of properly scoring and actually making it past Stage 3 when going for score.

The real challenge comes from being able to endure playing through the first three stages after you've chipped your way through them, resetting after each scoring mistake and doing light experimentation with each credit played before you restart. It's been a really long time since I've seen past Stage 5 in any Touhou game, but I must perfect the first four stages, no matter how much it makes me hate the game.

>>11423056
ZUN should start making the games not suck. You know, like he did 6-9 years ago.

>>11424536
>You know, like he did 6-9 years ago
8 and 12 are the good games. everyone knows that.

>>11392025
I've been stubborn all this time and didn't look up SA Normal strategies, so it's good that I finally read this. I've even done PCB Extra and Loony, but not SA Normal... hahaha...

>>11424384
I know that feel. My first Extra clear was PCB and it was right after my first 1cc, which was PCB Normal with SakuyaA, so you know I was in over my head. I spent countless hours dying and restarting to the same shit repeatedly and I religiously memorized the best routes (the ones the top scoring replays all took, not random shit) but I simply didn't have the skill to execute them. So I played until I did.

>>11424315
If you turn your keyboard 180 degrees, the positions will all be different

>>11425566
that colon vee when I still can't consistently capture Ran's first card despite almost being able to clear extra.

>>11425629
Really? That was certainly easiest for me. It doesn't require skill, just knowledge of what's going on. Just start on the right and dodge to the left. Those triangle bullets have very thin hitboxes so you only need to make a minimal movement.

Pay attention to the sound made when Ran releases a wave--there's a point where if you move at the last second to dodge a wave, you'll actually be dodging the one behind it too.

Of course, if you already knew this and you've watched replays of the spellcard and are still having problems, then uhh... sorry.

>>11425650
Thanks for the advice, I wasn't aware of an audio cue for dodging two at once.

I've been trying to complete extra on my own without viewing other peoples' strategies for some masochistic reason and that card is the only one in the first half of the fight I struggle with. It doesn't help that bombs don't even clear the screen on that card.

>>11421630
what shot type do you use?

>I used to be able to make it to 1-4 100% of the time
Nice. damn, I always start with survival routes then slowly build the chains up and it's just not happening with my st4 - I guess I'd need to totally reroute to get the big good chains.

> and chain the all of 1-1 through 1-3 no problem, now I just barely make it past the midboss each time.
I'm sure that it's only possible to chain up to the 1-1 midboss. You can chain the whole of 1-2 though (that's the main thing I'm working on now, it is extremely difficult). Again with 1-3 there's too much space after the midboss and I think there's just too much empty space to chain it, majority of the score (going by PMTs run) seems to come from the huge cancels.

> Now I'm constantly just restarting and getting frustrated if I break the 1-2 or 1-3 chain, which is now 80% of the time.
You're not going for your high score yet? I mean you must have more practice to do in the later stages as well. Unless breaking the chain kills you (and it does this to me a bunch since I get so disappointed) just play on til the end.

> It's so upsetting, I just want to play for score and have fun with it,
> play for score and have fun with it
see picture

> I'm sick of playing the early stages for hours and hours with no notable improvements.
use A-S like I am. It's really fun and you'll probably have to come up with new routes (so you'll see improvement faster).

>>11421607
of the 1-2 chain, I think making it up to the tank and keeping it alive just after the tank dies are the two hardest parts.

>>11426335
A-L and B-S for when I feel like dicking around. My big issue is resetting after any chain drop, since I instinctively stop trying once that happens. I believe the maximum amount of hits is indeed at the midboss of 1-1, 190 in total. You can hit up to 90 hits after the midboss, but I never really attempt it since I'm usually trying to brute force my way back to 1-2 or 1-3, whichever breaks the chain first.

Right now I'm working on personal goals, like 60M before the end of the year, or a loop before 2015. I should make it a goal to never restart even if I feel like the run is hopeless. For all I know, I could have gotten 60M on one of my better 1-4 reset runs, but probably not unless I played exceptionally well in 1-5 and 1-6. I moved to the left a little here and dropped an otherwise decent chain, but at least I'm getting consistent with making it to the bullet canceller. The run was pretty much done by 1-1 when I dropped it at 107HIT, but I wanted practice in 1-2 anyway.

>>11424569
>12
Nope.

>>11427713
I don't get how you're after 60m before a loop. what's the reasoning behind that?

I love shooting fairies

>>11427713
If 60m is in sight you would loop if you just finished a run. Of course it doesn't do much good if you haven't mastered the first loop. I can just about squeeze out a no-miss bonus and some pity points before I die.

Still nothing for the MariB challenge? Here's a start- not even a clear.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53432719/th14_07.rpy

>>11428306
>>11428396
Huh. I was always under the assumption that ending the loop below 100M was considered a pretty piss poor performance. 60M seemed like a modest goal, but now I don't think I'll be able to reach it before 2014. I'll try hitting 30M or 40M instead since I also can't see myself hitting the second loop since I always die in 1-5 or 1-6 due to lack of practice. I want to start using cheat states to practice, but damn it feels dirty. I used them to learn 1-4 and it felt so good, but so wrong at the same time.

>>11428528
Dammit, I swear I'll do a run of this game without restarting on Stage 3.

Oh, this thread still exists.

>>11382289
Thanks for the tip, it helped. Sorry for late response.

>>11429528
Never mind. I made it to Stage 4 after dying once in Stage 3 stupidly and just couldn't gather the motivation to play anymore. I should try to do more full runs instead of just restarting, but it feels like that's the only way to play at this point.

I'm not even sure it's possible to rise again after making a dumb mistake unexpectedly. It certainly feels like it isn't possible, but maybe I just lack shmup confidence to be able to keep going.

>>11429629
Good job.

>>11429528
You mean you restart so much that you haven't even gotten 30m yet after all this time?

Any /jp/sie playing Shikigami no Shiro?

Fuck Touhou for wasting well over two years of my life. I mean really, what was I trying to achieve? That's all I came here to say.

>>11430679
Not in a 1-ALL run where I chain, no. I'm pretty sure I would have gotten it in one of my NMNB effort all the way to 1-4 runs, but then again maybe not. The most I've gotten out of a, "fuck it I'm not chaining today" is 15M or so. I put down absolutely no effort into restarting or chaining and just blasted everything.

I've never finished a run when I'm attempting to chain anything past the first stage. Dying/bombing or dropping chain before 1-5 is pretty much an instant reset, there is no reason to need bombs on anything before there.

Now that I think about it, my DDP practice consists of me starting up a run, playing to 1-3 if I'm lucky, and then resetting. It felt like I was going to get a decent 1-ALL score after I was consistently making it to 1-4 without resetting, but now I'm back to 1-2 and 1-3 resets. I am getting kind of sick of restarting regardless of what I play.

>>11431874
at least you're not consider states like this fucking scumbag >>11429528

>>11432112
Cheat states never help you anyway unless you only want to learn one game and never gain any fundamentals.

One of the best players in the world uses 360 pad and never does any sort of practice mode, just straight up runs and replay watching. Nothing is impossible~