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KanColle Anonymous Mon Sep 2 07:58:04 2013 No.11372918 [Reply] [Original]

Alien edition

Wiki : http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Kancolle_Wiki

Info : http://pastebin.com/bRpdhnqt

Previous thread: >>11363615

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 08:14:47 2013 No.11372918,1 [INTERNAL]

I got so pumped to complete almost all my weeklies in a single day yesterday and the resources I got didn't turn into anything new for me.

I need a shoulder to cry on.

Then again, if I can do this much it means I probably have a deep enough ship rotation to handle at least one stage of the Musashi event now, whenever that comes out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 08:19:19 2013 No.11372936 File: 197 KB, 801x561, serverdown.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Servers still down?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 08:20:34 2013 No.11372940 >>11372936 Not down, full. If you're getting that screen it means you have to wait until the next lottery.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 08:22:04 2013 No.11372942 >>11372940 ... w-when will that be, kind anon?

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 08:23:49 2013 No.11372945
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>tfw I have 4000 ammo but only 200 steel
>tfw I still have several light carriers needing repairs

Can't I... can't I smelt some of my ammo into metal? Ammo are made of metal, right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 08:25:19 2013 No.11372947 File: 382 KB, 798x480, 3380633.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11372942 5:30pm JPT today. Sometime in the morning tomorow based on your timezone. Good luck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 08:26:50 2013 No.11372948 >>11372947 t-thanks...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 08:28:49 2013 No.11372951 http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Chitose For the ship with multiple with Shimakaze's page style.(i wont make another ship page until the page structure/theme are finalized, except for testing) Any idea ?

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 08:36:04 2013 No.11372959
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Which is more financially sustainable? Launching Hyahaa with another low-cost CVL or just Akagi?

Also, how do you judge stats on a carrier? Since firepower/torpedo stat aren't relevant to them. I'm not even very sure how relevant the anti-air is, since it's the planes that does the job.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 08:41:04 2013 No.11372964 >>11372951 For upgrades, is it possible to stack them into two columns side-by-side? I don't like those wasted space on the right.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 08:46:34 2013 No.11372976

>>11372959
I run both; a CVL (Chiyoda) and Akagi. I never worried about supplies running out on them. It's the elusive Kongo and her sisters that eats my supplies whenever I try to craft one of them and my BBs and heavy cruisers eating up ammo and fuel.
For stats on the carrier, better plane capacity, better armor and better evasion is a better carrier though I place plane capacity above all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 08:47:20 2013 No.11372978 For Kongou-class mission, is the re-modelled ship acceptable?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 08:48:35 2013 No.11372982 >>11372951 Can we first decide which of these two we should use? http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Nagato http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Shimakaze

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 08:48:50 2013 No.11372985 File: 207 KB, 850x503, Untitled2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Too bad she doesn't hold up to kansai family in any way.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 08:55:19 2013 No.11372996
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>>11372976
>>11372985

So the 2/3 ship CVLs generally aren't worth the investment?

>>11372976
What's the rest of your fleet consist of? Because at my level 90-110 oil per deployment (not counting repairs) is killing me.
I also kind of killed my supplies just trying to get ANY battleship. Around 16k oil/ 24k iron down the drain just to get Yamashiro, has been trying to work off my debts ever since.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 08:57:19 2013 No.11373001 File: 125 KB, 639x768, 3297388.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11372996 by ship I mean plane

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 08:59:49 2013 No.11373004 >>11372964 Done http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Chitose#Upgrade

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 09:11:49 2013 No.11373023 >>11373004 A lot better, nice.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 09:15:23 2013 No.11373023,1 [INTERNAL]

>>11372982
Personally I like the Nagato-style table better as long as editors make sure to put down which equipment slots can hold certain numbers of seaplanes/carrier planes. I don't really think we need to make something as small as the Shimakaze-style tables on a wiki we specifically go to look at to understand numbersandmaths more clearly.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 09:20:34 2013 No.11373044
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>>11372996
Here's my fleet currently and I'm trying to level up my BBs and heavy cruisers to level 30 before they tackle the 2-4 boss. I usually replace one BB or 2 heavy cruisers with the DDs or light cruisers I want to train so I can remodel them. That way I can still train the ships I want for 2-4 boss battle while at the same time "boosting" the ships are quite difficult to level like destroyers

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 09:22:04 2013 No.11373045 File: 988 KB, 1280x800, 37716490_p1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11373044 What are you doing to finance yourself? Just expeditions & dailies?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 09:23:49 2013 No.11373049 >>11373045 By not playing too much. That way I just let resource pile up by the day. And of course doing dailies and expeditions when I log in.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 09:26:04 2013 No.11373055 >>11373044 Is Chiyoda still worth carrying? I recall reading somewhere that they're not worth the trouble anymore.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 09:30:05 2013 No.11373062 >>11372996 CVLs are nice. They have way shorter repair time than CVs and cost less ammo and fuel to field.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 09:30:34 2013 No.11373060

>>11373055
She was my first CVL (because no other CVL dropped from the time I was clearing 1-3 and 1-4) so she kinda stuck with me until now. Not that she's useless she dodges enemy fire more than Akagi could hope for (though by now since Akagi is higher levelled, I'd say they're roughly equal now). And besides I did read somewhere she's one of the best CVLs out there when fully upgraded and has one of the best clothing damage

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 09:31:08 2013 No.11373062,1 [INTERNAL]

>>11372996
Alas, admiral, I have been in your shoes. Yamashiro actually is a somewhat common drop from stage 2-2's boss. In general, you don't have to kill yourself leveling a CVL/CV right off the bat. Ooi and Soopah Kitakami-san after level 10 are also great for taking out enemy boats without breaking the bank--even better if you can rip the midget submarines off of Chitose/Chiyoda's level 12 upgrades and stick them on the torp cruisers instead.

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Mon Sep 2 09:32:04 2013 No.11373064 >>11373060 They said the Chitose-class sisters get bigger bust, are they telling the truth? It's damn worth the trouble then.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 09:34:49 2013 No.11373072 File: 217 KB, 1223x815, 1376317169660.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11373064 See for yourself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 09:36:04 2013 No.11373076 >>11373064 They are always stacked, just that they are hudden quite well. As someone said, their clothing damage gets increasingly lewder (same goes to the Fuso sisters, Kitakami and Ooi).

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 09:38:19 2013 No.11373080

>>11372959
firepower matters according to admins (It was written somewhere on Kancolle atwiki) and torpedo likely does as well.

>>11372978
yes

>>11372996
Houshou is nice after her refit. 30/30 max resource expenditure, that is, just 6/6 after one battle. Also, Chitose sisters are OP for CVL.

>>11373055
Chitose/Chiyoda fully upgraded are still really good. Have a look at http://www56.atwiki.jp/kancolle/pages/216.html

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Mon Sep 2 09:42:34 2013 No.11373089 File: 80 KB, 194x263, Teitoku.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11373072 I thought that was fanart. >>11373076 Just like Ushio. Ooi, please show up and join my fleet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 09:44:49 2013 No.11373098 >>11373089 It was? Oh I'll just check myself though I don't know if the clothing damage will change by level 50 or by level 35 but since I'm just 6 exp away from level 35 guess I'll take a look.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 09:45:04 2013 No.11373099 >>11373076 got a pic of the fusos ? want to know if it's worth it too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 09:47:19 2013 No.11373108 >>11373080 How does firepower affect carriers? Does it affect the damage their planes do or something?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 09:49:20 2013 No.11373113 File: 189 KB, 452x463, 3290621.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >be a poor admiral >go on a leveling run >Akagi gets critted to half health >I made a sound that was a cross between "Uhwaaaaagh" and "Hiiiiiieeeeeeee"

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 09:49:20 2013 No.11373114

>>11373108
>>11373080
I don't think firepower has any effect on the damage of their planes. My Chiyoda and Akagi had 13 and 18 apiece for firepower and yet they're critting ships from divebombing and torpedo bombing (provided they don't miss) like there's no tomorrow.

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Mon Sep 2 09:49:35 2013 No.11373116 >>11373108 On the dive bombers, red planes. You can increase firepower via fusion so it is accounted for. Blue planes raise the torpedo stat but base torpedo cannot be raised.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 09:55:04 2013 No.11373127 File: 766 KB, 1002x1416, 3324025.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is Akatsuki supposed to be rare or something? I've been trying to get her for ages to complete the quest and so far no luck.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 09:55:50 2013 No.11373124

>>11373108
> 空母の「火力」パラメータに意味はあるの？

> 未確認ですが砲雷撃戦での空母攻撃力に影響するようです。
> 公式フォーラム「雑談 (18隻目)」No.657より

> 以前「空母の火力って意味あるの?」
> てきな質問をしていたかが居て、鎮守府からの回答が「艦載機の火力に影響があります」とのことでしたので。

> 艦載機の火力に影響があります
"affects carrier-borne aircrafts' firepower"
Interpret this as you wish.

My Chiyoda, Akagi and Kaga have maxed firepower and they deliver 80~120 (this is just from my memory. I might test this later) on hits on heavy cruisers in 3-3 and 4-2. I don't know if that's higher than other anons'.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 09:59:49 2013 No.11373131 >>11373124 > on hits on heavy cruisers on hits on heavy cruisers in shelling phase* I don't think some anons are aware of this so I'll mention it here, but torpedo bombers also attack during shelling phase.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 10:04:34 2013 No.11373137

>>11372982
I prefer the Nagato page myself, because it looks cleaner.
I also really like the build time info that the Shimakaze page has, but I can't figure a way to include it. Maybe replace the "remodel into" section, since you can just look down to see the remodel path.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 10:07:54 2013 No.11373137,1 >>11373137 The Japanese wiki does the build time thing a better way--by creating a seperate page with a table for all the ship classes and their build times, so you can start a build and then say "What did I get?" and have a single table to look at.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 10:11:50 2013 No.11373149 >>11373137 Added

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 10:16:20 2013 No.11373153 Is there any page on the japanese wiki about great successes on expeditions? I think it's on the image, but I don't really trust that one, as I've gotten results that differ from it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 10:19:36 2013 No.11373157 >>11373153 http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%B1%F3%C0%AC

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 10:22:21 2013 No.11373162 >>11373153 http://www56.atwiki.jp/kancolle/pages/16.html Though I'd cross-reference it with the image and >>11373153

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 10:23:05 2013 No.11373167

>>11373157
Oh, yeah I see the section now. Sorry about that.
If I'm understanding this correctly, it's just some constant multiplier to the resources, which I'm guessing is 1.5x from experience.

Also, seems like I was reading the the hourly rates, now that I'm looking it up.
Same deal with >>11373162, actually. It looks like the same chart, just in text form.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 10:23:35 2013 No.11373166 >>11373153 You mean the double exp/1.5 extra resource? You need to have the whole fleet sparking or at least half of it (though the chance would be much lower).

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 10:24:35 2013 No.11373169 File: 266 KB, 500x699, 37568722_p1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yankee or Yandere?

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 10:24:50 2013 No.11373170

成功条件を満たし、かつ戦意高揚（通称：キラキラ）だと、「大成功」することがある。

全員キラキラでも必ず大成功するというわけではない。
一部だけがキラキラでも大成功することがあるが、もちろん確率は低くなる。
キラキラ6隻を派遣した場合は（5隻以下しか必要としない任務でも）ほぼ大成功となる模様。
全員キラキラでも耐久力が減っている艦がいると大成功になりにくくなる。大成功を狙う場合は要回復。
帰投時にキラキラ状態が少しずつ減衰するため、同じ艦娘を延々キラキラ遠征することはできない。
短時間で終わる遠征の場合、キラキラ化させる資源（や手間）の方が大きい場合もある。
キラキラ状態にする方法についてはこちらを参考に。

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 10:30:06 2013 No.11373182
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>>11373169
Yankdere. She will gut you while whispering sweet profanity in your ear.

And also, any equipments to boot ship's accuracy? My BBs have been missing their shots and it's quite irritating.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 10:31:51 2013 No.11373184 >>11373169 Maya seems closer to a Yankee than Tatsuda who is just plain creepy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 10:32:05 2013 No.11373188 >>11373182 Radar and yellow 15.5cm guns.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 10:35:35 2013 No.11373191

>>11373182
It was mentioned from the other thread that you need to alternate your weapons system, eg: main cannon on 1st, dual purpose cannons on the 2nd slot, another main cannon on the 3rd etc.
Radar also works and dual purpose cannons (yellow) too. AP rounds also add hit and crit rate if equipped with the triple 46cm cannon.
>>11373184
Why is Tatsuta creepy as fuck.
I still like her though especially her voice

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 10:36:35 2013 No.11373192
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>>11373188
>>11373191
Thanks, does the radar affect only individual ship or does it help the whole fleet? Looking at other anon's fleet, 2-4 can only be won with level ~40 ships. This really worries me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 10:38:50 2013 No.11373202 >>11373192 It's a single player game, not like you're in any rush. I expect my fleet to be about level sixty before I beat 2-4 because my composition is garbage. Maybe next month.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 10:41:35 2013 No.11373207

>>11373192
From what I can remember it affects only the ship equipped (I have only one which is equipped on Maya from her upgraded form and the other on reserve from upgraded Isuzu). Though I was expecting it will affect the fleet as a whole.
Regarding 2-4 they say you need at least level 35 ships to clear 2-4 or at least have decent equipment. Probably roll 3 battleships mounting 46cms and CVs with the best torpedo bomber, dive bomber and fighter on board and probably other ships with AA or radar or torpedoes. It really depends on you but at least have a decent mix of ships and equipment.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 10:45:20 2013 No.11373223 File: 408 KB, 1024x724, 36743274_p17.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11373207 So, is it time to bring out the torpedo monster? I only have her partner.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 10:47:35 2013 No.11373230 >>11373223 Well if you think she can take it then why not? Try running the first two nodes on 2-4 and base your decisions there depending on her performance. If she's already taking a beating through there then train her some more.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 10:53:37 2013 No.11373242 >decide to level a fleet of lvl 1 heavy cruisers >goto 1-4 3 min later >oh gawd muh resources

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 10:56:50 2013 No.11373247

>>11373242
Even if their stats are on par with, say, a level 20 light carrier, the level gap will cause them to eat crits like no tomorrow. Take better care of your ship girls!

Also, if you could improve the quality of your posts that would be nice too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 11:01:36 2013 No.11373255 How do you complete the daily quests? For example, I pick the craft quest in the quests menu and a yellow sign appears on it, craft an equip, and nothing happens. Do I have to turn it in somewhere?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 11:02:21 2013 No.11373256 >>11373255 If you completed it correctly, the yellow sign should become blue, and you just click on it to turn it in.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 11:03:05 2013 No.11373263 >>11373255 Pretty sure that's the way to do it. Do read carefully, some quest especially in the beginning are one-time off and that includes scraping material/ship.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 11:03:21 2013 No.11373258 >>11373255 the first craft quest is for development (equipment) and the next craft quest is for building (shipbuilding).

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 11:03:35 2013 No.11373261 >>11373255 yes, go back to the quest screen to claim your reward.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 11:03:35 2013 No.11373262

>>11373080
>>11373124
If this really is true, I was thinking that might explain why my lvl 50 Kaga/Akagi with good planes are still doing shit damage; but then I checked and they're not horribly far below the firepower cap.

I actually raised firepower on some of my carriers earlier just in case it did something, and because I kept running out of space and had no other newly upgraded ships to whom I could feed BBs and CAs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 11:09:35 2013 No.11373273 I see thanks guys, my craft quest didn't work because I did it before tutorial 2 while I waited for my 2nd ship to build, and the dailies only get unlocked with tutorial 3

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 11:28:51 2013 No.11373312

It is a member of Yokosuka Admiral of Japan.
Information about the morale uplift (sparkling) I'll put.

Expedition return -3
And
Per battle
Flagship sunk +3
MVP +10
All +1 S victory
All -3 night battle rush
All -15 homing in home port
Up to 100, recovery time is up to 49, with more than 50 sparkling

Grammar and vocabulary's funny to forgive me. What Google automatic translation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 11:35:20 2013 No.11373323 >>11373312 >All -15 homing in home port >All -3 night battle rush Didn't know that. Thank you. Their morale is based on 耐久?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 11:39:35 2013 No.11373332 File: 36 KB, 118x158, 007.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Feed me, /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 11:42:20 2013 No.11373340 File: 120 KB, 1427x889, 38065560.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11373332 Goodnight, sweet princess.

>>	ldrger sonth Anonymous Mon Sep 2 11:44:50 2013 No.11373346 Unverified. However, there is a case that became a morale uplift by struck in battle.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 11:48:06 2013 No.11373358 File: 283 KB, 1000x1000, 3370572.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11373332 BUT I JUST DID

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 12:14:51 2013 No.11373396 File: 495 KB, 800x1136, 38231013.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'd like a Hyuuga mouse pad please.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 12:15:05 2013 No.11373401 >>11373396 An Atago oppai pad will be better.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 12:16:05 2013 No.11373402 >>11373396 Looks like a lightbulb

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 12:17:20 2013 No.11373403

When i was editing ship pages i realize we need to tranlate equiment list first (thanks anon for adding infomation to Chitose page) but i know nothing about miltary stuff and may make silly mistakes. Still not a big problem,

http://www56.atwiki.jp/kancolle/pages/24.html
When i look at this page, the list is awfuly long, like "shiplist", this list will be big, and some moon rune like "小口径主砲" took little space but in English "Small caliber main gun"is much longer, and don't know is that any abbreviation or alternative to save spaces.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 12:22:35 2013 No.11373407 >>11373403 How about calling them 'light/medium/heavy' guns? For 副砲, we could also label them as 'secondaries'. Any /k/ fags?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 12:27:50 2013 No.11373418 >>11373403 Personally, I don't think it's necessary to label them as small/medium/large caliber guns. After all, the bore measurement is already listed together. Primary gun, secondary gun, AA, etc alone work well enough, IMO.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 12:28:20 2013 No.11373419 File: 302 KB, 510x600, BReNvj8CcAAZkyv.png large.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I hope we get different art for the secretary screen eventually, at least. Some don't really...work at the moment.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 12:31:50 2013 No.11373423

I'm a level 28 commander, my best ships average about level 25, but when I try PVP with folks the same level as me, they have level 50 ships.

Am I playing this game wrong, /jp/? I can't complete the win-5-PVP-a-day quest because my ships are too low level to win any PVP, but if I try to go out to level them my commander level goes up and I have to face players with even higher level ships.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 12:39:20 2013 No.11373437 >>11373423 >can't complete the win-5-PVP-a-day quest I never do them

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 12:48:05 2013 No.11373450 So will they ever update the voicepack of the initial ships? The newer ones will tell you the time and everything after all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 12:49:05 2013 No.11373452 >Keep trying to get a turbine >Use wikiwiki's recipes >Get a bunch of torpedoes instead >Spent over 30 research resource I just want one or two turbines, man.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 12:50:50 2013 No.11373454 >>11373450 I certainly hope so. I'd love to have my Shibafu ships announce the time for me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 12:52:05 2013 No.11373460 >>11373450 I hope they add some new ships and hire more artists and VAs

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 12:52:20 2013 No.11373458 >>11373452 I recommend 100/10/200/10 for turbines. Most will fail so you'll save those reagents. or do 100/300/250/10 if you want the 46cm guns as well. (This almost always gives you something though.)

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 12:55:36 2013 No.11373463

>>11373403
me again

小/中/大口径主砲=Small/Medium/Large Cannon

副砲=Subcannon

魚雷=Torpedo

艦上攻撃機=Dive Bomber

艦上戦闘機=Fighter

艦上爆撃機=Torpedo_bomber

小型/大型電探=Small / Large Radar

機関部強化=Engine Improvement

三式弾=Type 3 ammo

九一式徹甲弾=Type 91 AP ammo

対空機銃 = AA Gun

特殊潜航艇 = special submarine

応急修理要員 = Damage Control Team (for direct translate should be something like emergency repair team)

対潜兵装 = ASW

ソナー = SONAR

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 12:59:51 2013 No.11373468 >>11373458 Is there a good flagship for turbines? >>11373460 I think it would be fun if they added more custom lines.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 13:00:35 2013 No.11373471 >>11373458 100/300/250/10 Got 20+ turbines but only one 46cm cannon ;_; but at least i have enough 41cm for all active BB now, a good formula for ship upgrades

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 13:02:20 2013 No.11373476 Do the daily/weekly quests have to be active to count towards the total? Like the 10 expeditions a day one for example.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 13:03:05 2013 No.11373480 >>11373476 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 13:03:20 2013 No.11373479 >>11373476 yes

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 13:04:35 2013 No.11373483 >>11373471 >20+ turbines can we trade?!

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 13:05:20 2013 No.11373486 >>11373471 Who were you using as flagship?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 13:06:06 2013 No.11373495 File: 318 KB, 920x600, 38162220.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So, for the "あ号作戦" weekly, can I just kill the 1-1 boss 12 times to complete it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 13:08:21 2013 No.11373498 >>11373486 battleship of course. for 46cm kongou I spent almost a month making 46cm. Thats why i have so many "by-product".

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 13:09:51 2013 No.11373504 >>11373476 Deactivating them won't reset your progress though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 13:12:05 2013 No.11373511 >>11373403 Use the english wikipedia for the translations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Naval_guns_of_Japan

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 13:12:50 2013 No.11373510 >>11373495 1. 36 any battles 2. 24 any boss battles 3. 12 wins on boss battles 4. 06 any S+ wins

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 13:17:20 2013 No.11373519 >>11373495 ウィークリーデイリー2達成後、海上通商破壊と同時発生以下の全条件を満たしたら達成出撃36回ボス到達(勝敗問わず)24回ボス勝利12回完全S勝利6回(ボス以外含) 36 battle (any sortie) 24 boss battle 12 boss battle victory 6 battle with S grade (any sortie)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 13:23:20 2013 No.11373538 I am a Japanese Admiral Only one because it seems to be a mistake 艦上攻撃機 = Torpedo_bomber 艦上爆撃機 = Dive Bomber Because I use the translation site, please forgive even Strangely, I found English

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 13:28:35 2013 No.11373562 File: 167 KB, 505x679, Untitled.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 3-4 is suffering. They're made of Nintendium and crit everything unless I dodge them, which rarely happens. Can't even reach the boss.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 13:30:50 2013 No.11373570

>>11373511
Thanks !
Now a bored anon :) is making equiment page, i think i can have a rest now... (many thanks for the contribution !)

Also please give comment and suggestion to http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Nagato
and
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Shimakaze
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Chitose

so we can make improvments, hope we can unify ship page soon ;_; now still stand with two version

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 13:31:35 2013 No.11373572 >>11373538 You're correct. (>>11373463) has those mislabeled.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 13:33:35 2013 No.11373578 >>11373538 You are right... Sorry i mess that up :( Those moon runes just look like the same

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 13:34:21 2013 No.11373582 Can I attempt to construct any ship/equip at any time? Or are certain ships/classes locked out before you hit a level or clear a stage? If so, is there a list of what I can attempt to craft at what level?

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 13:35:51 2013 No.11373588
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>>11373538
Nice catch!

>>11373562
Looks like you landed in the more painful H than D. Yea, that would make me cry tears of blood as well. Think of it this way, you'll only get at worst 2 flagship BBs when you make boss.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 13:39:05 2013 No.11373595 >>11373578 Will not be relied on every It was good If I had helps

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 13:40:35 2013 No.11373598

>>11373582
Ships are not level-locked. A noob on day 1 get still get Yamato on their 1st all 30 shuffle. The only exception I think are the submarines which are event only.

EQUIPMENT however are level locked and varies based on who's your current flagship.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 13:40:35 2013 No.11373599

>>11373582
You should be able to craft anything at any level.
There's been stories of people crafting battleships at admiral level 3.

Equipment seems to be dependent on the secretary (the main fleet's flagship) though.

It's also possible that admiral level affects the rates each type appears (as opposed to locks out certain types), but that's unconfirmed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 13:45:50 2013 No.11373611 >>11373598 ...wait, you can ROLL for Yamato?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 13:45:51 2013 No.11373612 >>11373598 > Yamato but you can't get her from shipbuilding yet.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 13:46:50 2013 No.11373615

>>11373599
I was one of those cases of low level admiral getting a BB, got Yamashiro at around 3 or 4 and Nagato by 7. They ate all my resources and I like Nagato too much to ever remove her from my fleet, so 30 levels later I'm still somewhat running into steel issues.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 13:54:35 2013 No.11373635
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>>11373615
Level 15 steeless admiral here, that's extremely depressing to hear.

I was having severe resource issues, and I managed to solve all of them except steel. Other than running the 20 min expedition 3 times every hour I've yet to find another way to relaibly farm them.

And with my 2-x leveling runs I keep losing them faster than I earn them.

I only managed to get 1 BB (Fuso) so far too, starting to wonder if I should just try to get another account on tomorow's shuffle.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 13:57:50 2013 No.11373644

>>11373598
Like 10 or less ships incl Yamato and SS are not available via crafting.

Anyways, you better spend those resources to make actual game progress, instead of crafting heavy hitters at low level.
They'll suck up all your resources and you'll have to stop your daily game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 14:04:06 2013 No.11373656 I currently have ten ships whose level exceeds their firepower. This number is only going to increase in the near future.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 14:05:06 2013 No.11373657 How the heck am I supposed to beat 2-4? I can't even reach the boss without risking to lose any of my ships

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 14:06:07 2013 No.11373660 >>11373657 Level them up. Modernize them. Give them better equips.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 14:06:36 2013 No.11373659 >>11373657 What's your fleet look like?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 14:07:22 2013 No.11373661 File: 170 KB, 857x1167, 38264819.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Being Ryuujou is suffering

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 14:07:52 2013 No.11373663 File: 2.64 MB, 1920x2160, 3396514.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11373657 Lots and lots of firepower. And luck. Lots of lots of luck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 14:08:51 2013 No.11373665 >>11373661 being flat sure is convenient.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 14:10:21 2013 No.11373666 >>11373635 >>11373615 use your soon-to-be-scrapped ships to run 1-1 and drop destroyers. use them again to run 1-1, and so on. when a ship is in danger zone or 0 fuel/ammo, scrap it. you can get around 2 steel / min I think.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 14:11:06 2013 No.11373670
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>>11373657
I hear ya brother. I've been working on 2-4 for over a week now. It's not that I can't beat the boss, it's that I can't even get to it. I either go NW or E into the three deadends, or I end up going along the NW passage that contains 3 CV battles, which deplete my ammo/fuel to the point I might as well have nerf cannons.

How do I go NE?!

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 14:15:21 2013 No.11373677

A few tips for resources management :

Don't make expensive equiment at low level, if you have lots of resources to spend, build ships

Normally you shouldn't lose many plane on sorties, if they cost you too much, place more fighter in you carrier if you enemy have carrier too

Carrier should never join PVP drill. If you carrier really need those exp, remove their planes first

battleships or CV at low level are fine, just level-up and upgrade them ASAP so they have less chance to take damage

The map won't disapper, if you got stuck, level up more first, don't push too hard and waste all of your fuel and steel to repairs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 14:17:51 2013 No.11373681 I don't even see how it's possible to run out of steel doing repairs unless you're just bucketing carriers and battleships over and over. It takes like, twenty steel an hour.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 14:17:51 2013 No.11373682 >>11373677 > don't push too hard and waste all of your fuel and steel to repairs. or lose a kanmusu and cry tears of blood when it's too late.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 14:22:51 2013 No.11373690

>>11373681
My heavy cruisers/CVL keeps getting gibbed on 2s.
I'd swap them out to level my carries, then the same thing happens to the replacements too.

That means about 80-110 steel per ship, which for me takes about 2 hours of expedition farming to recover.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 14:25:51 2013 No.11373693 >>11373690 Yeah, but it takes them two hours to repair anyway. I feel like I pick up hundreds of steel just grinding 1-4 over and over again. Ammo is what I keep running out of.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 14:27:36 2013 No.11373697

>>11373690
Yeah, but it takes them two hours to repair anyway. I feel like I pick up tons of steel just running 1-4 and 2-1 over and over again. The CVL and HC I take along are super high level, though, so they probably aren't getting gibbed as much as yours.

If there's anything I run out of, it's ammo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 14:29:06 2013 No.11373700 >>11373697 My fleet is not strong enough that they can get through 1-4/2-1 without at least one getting gibbed. Christ, ammo is about the only thing I'm not short of. I wish I can sell my ammo for steel.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 14:34:36 2013 No.11373709 >>11373463 小/中/大口径主砲=Small/Intermediate/Large Caliber Gun 副砲=Secondary Gun 特殊潜航艇 = Midget Submarine

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 14:37:36 2013 No.11373718 For once, I'd just like to not eat a random critical

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 14:39:07 2013 No.11373724 File: 1.66 MB, 1032x1457, 3329605.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >dailies reset in hour and half Boy I can't wait till I have enough resources to build a CA with 400/30/600/30 again.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 14:40:36 2013 No.11373725 When do I need an all destroyer fleet again? If I level the destroyer or a ship in general will the fuel consumption rise?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 14:41:06 2013 No.11373730 >>11373718 and there goes one of my ships, I should have just pulled out

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 14:43:36 2013 No.11373734 File: 860 KB, 1000x955, 3397348.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11373730 What is her name, anon?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 14:45:06 2013 No.11373739 File: 948 KB, 1328x1160, 3328366.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11373724 那珂ちゃんだよー！

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 14:46:21 2013 No.11373740 File: 326 KB, 623x878, 37541261_p3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11373725 only after refits. >>11373730 yeah, you should have.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 14:54:22 2013 No.11373756
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Not completely related, but I've often hear about how KanColle is one of the rare social games that doesn't really require dropping money into it despite its popularity (especially when compared to Im@s CG).

Just how bad was it in CG anyway? I played Im@s2 so I have some inkling of how scamco is, but it seems like CG was much much worst.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 14:55:36 2013 No.11373757

Can anyone who have a remodeled I-168 tell me how much it cost to resuply one battle with her - and mostly, how long does it takes to repair her ?
>total damage, lvl
are the relevant info.

The first version does the job I give her quite fine, especially with repair time /mats.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 14:58:06 2013 No.11373766 >>11373756 I haven't tallied all my spending, but I've spent more than 1000 bucks on CG already, and I'm still shit-tier compared to the cosmic elder gods of CG. Meanwhile I spent 3000 yen on KanColle

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 15:01:06 2013 No.11373773 >>11373766 dat first spoiler... Mein gott.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 15:01:21 2013 No.11373771 >>11373757 My level 60ish repair 3-4 mins/1dmg One battle is 5 fuel 10 ammo I see no reason not to remodel her especially when you can get another slot to equip more turbines

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 15:04:07 2013 No.11373781 File: 97 KB, 277x315, 1373172564698.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11373766 Jesus Christ, how does the microtransaction in that game work? Is it pay2losenotasmuch?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 15:05:52 2013 No.11373784 >>11373766 I was in Tokyo for 3 days two weeks ago... Wish I had already started playing KanColle at the time so I could've picked up some bitcash from 7-11s, without having to go through all this sutocorp bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 15:06:06 2013 No.11373787 >>11373781 It's pay to gamble for your waifu, which can go from 300 yen if you're lucky to 100000+.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 15:11:21 2013 No.11373794 >>11373756 >>11373766 >>11373773 >>11373781 >>11373787 Takane PTSD. Enough said.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 15:11:36 2013 No.11373796 File: 54 KB, 485x379, 168.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11373757 My lv98 i168 costs 1fuel/2ammo per bar. I can't count repair time, since she has been in bath now, but I feel it doubled. 60min or so for full repair.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 15:13:07 2013 No.11373805

>>11373781
Ways of scamco to scam you.
- Roll gacha for rare cards which can be as low as 0.1% drop rate. 300 yen per roll.
- Compete against other players to get rare cards. Top 2000 gets them.
- Pay to vote for your idols. Top idols get special treatments (CD debut, etc. AKB style)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 15:22:07 2013 No.11373838 >>11373757 >>11373796 Ok, I made her get a scratch. It's 5min and 45sec/damage.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 15:22:52 2013 No.11373840

>>11373805
- Said rare rolls usually results in an utterly useless piece of shit (like FFDY)
- Trying to rank in the top 2000? Good luck, Japanese players swim in endless resources (stam and ena)
- The voting part was honestly ridiculous, pretty much AKB tier, and in the last round the top 10 gets a voice actress if they do not have one for CD releases, though choice of voice actress is entirely up to Scamco's discretion (Kongou voices a 28 year old woman, for one)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 15:47:36 2013 No.11373933 >>11373840 don't trash the choice of namco there, Nao does awesome voice acting for Kawashima, especially in the CD opening talk. Nao is OLEV.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 15:53:07 2013 No.11373960 I just put Junyou in the dock for five hours. It cost me a hundred steel. I honestly don't know how you people run out of this shit.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 15:56:51 2013 No.11373973

>>11373933
I wasn't thrashing Scamco, was making an example of how random it can be. At this point we should be calling Kirishima "Mizuki Kirishima".

Tohyama wasn't the only VA that's voicing both IM@S mobage and KC characters though. For example, The Cutest voices Yamato.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 15:56:51 2013 No.11373974 >>11373838 >>11373796 >>11373771 allright thanks. mine is around 3min and peanutsecond so it won't be much of a increase. though I'm pretty disapointed at the new stat cap.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 16:07:36 2013 No.11374013 How do I know if something is a supply ship in this game? Is it always the last area that isn't a boss fight?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 16:07:51 2013 No.11374015 >>11374013 It says "supply ship" on it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 16:11:52 2013 No.11374024 File: 430 KB, 755x452, thanks dailies.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] thanks, dailies ! Now I just need some luck from 2-4, ZKMS.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 16:15:51 2013 No.11374035 >>11373766 >1000 Do you regret spending that much?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 16:16:21 2013 No.11374040 >>11374013 You're looking for ships that have 補給 as their icons. They're guaranteed to be found at the ends of 2-2 that aren't the boss.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 16:23:36 2013 No.11374060 >>11374013 In 2-2 or 2-3. I recommend 2-2. 2-3's supply fleet are harder than the boss battle there.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 16:31:06 2013 No.11374085

>>11374060
2-3 also only has two supply ships in those fleets, while 2-2's have two to four. Nevertheless, the compass is a total bitch on 2-2.

There's also a fleet with 3 supply ships at the end of 4-2 if you don't get the boss; that's what I'm doing now instead of wasting resources getting boss 10 straight times on 2-2.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 16:32:51 2013 No.11374087 How do I get Kirishima?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 17:10:06 2013 No.11374266 File: 164 KB, 1178x882, ss (2013-08-28 at 02.29.16).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11374087 Grinding 2-2 netted me 3/4 of the Kongo class ships. I still can't find Haruna though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 17:15:37 2013 No.11374289 File: 1.37 MB, 1370x1835, 3397008.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >cripple nearly my whole fleet hunting down 3 CVs >return >find out I didn't have the quest active

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 17:18:36 2013 No.11374302 >>11374289 I really hate that, I blew through a lot of resources doing quests that weren't even active Now I double check on every quest before I get into it

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 17:24:21 2013 No.11374321 >>11374302 I agree. The most annoying thing about quests is you can only have 5 active at a time, which I think is an unnecessary inconvenience. They'll probably sell 6th quest slot for 1000

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 17:33:23 2013 No.11374353 >>11374321 it wouldn't be so bad with (much) faster loading between menus. I don't have much trouble with it, but it's a pain when weeklies resetf for sure.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 17:42:52 2013 No.11374385

How does the ship position works? I'm not talking about the line, but rather how you place what at 1st slot, what at 2nd slot. I know 1st slot is flagship, and it's least vulnerable. Is 2 more vulnerable or 3 is? Please give me a ranking like 1>2>3>4>5>6 or whatever.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 17:51:36 2013 No.11374396 >>11374385 http://www56.atwiki.jp/kancolle/pages/25.html depends on the formation.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 18:22:21 2013 No.11374482
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I was grumbling at myself for using 70/60/10/110 with Ooicchi as the secretary by a mistake, but then the item that I've been wanting to craft for a while popped up. Excellent.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 18:24:52 2013 No.11374493 File: 480 KB, 800x480, Murakumo Get.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Two weeks and thirty levels later, I have Murakumo in the fleet again. This time, for sure, I won't let "you" die...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 18:35:37 2013 No.11374519 >>11374482 ha. I did my 4 10/300/250/10 with shigure as secretary. Not that I could have any 46cm anyway, given my luck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 18:38:21 2013 No.11374527 File: 467 KB, 701x376, 第１艦隊.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11374493 The first fleet. Ships '1'-6, in order.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 18:56:53 2013 No.11374597 10 sorties later 2/3 transports 1/3 carriers This makes me want to quit the game

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 19:07:51 2013 No.11374620 File: 140 KB, 800x985, 38267443.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11374597 がんばって >>11374493 please pamper her with love this time (as well).

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 19:11:36 2013 No.11374626 >>11374597 most of the dailes aren't something to aim for, but rather some nice bonus to help you when doing the normal playrhough of the game. Try to include it in your daily sortie, and think about exp/drop - maybe you'll feel better. I do.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 19:22:36 2013 No.11374657 >>11374597 >>11374626 Interestingly, the majority of the sortie dailies are best served by stage 2-2. Which incidentally is great for grinding ship drops in the mid-game. I hate the stupid compass in 2-2.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 19:27:51 2013 No.11374669 >>11374493 I got into the lottery last night and chose her as my starter pokemon I accidentally scrapped her because I can't into moon ;_;

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 19:33:52 2013 No.11374683 >>11374669 I know I shouldn't, but... >loosing your starter >not KIA but damn srapped HAHAHAHA PLZ TAITOKOO. just forget it happened and adopt a new one. she'll come back soon anyway.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 19:34:21 2013 No.11374685 >>11374669 You monster

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 19:35:36 2013 No.11374691 >>11374626 I get better drop and exp from doing 3-2-1 repeatedly...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 19:36:36 2013 No.11374695 >>11374669 jesuschristhowhorrifying Murakumo seems like the most fukou starter girl.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 19:59:37 2013 No.11374761
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rate my current formation /jp/, just got into KanColle yesterday.

also, question. is destroyer really that bad? it's not rare that my destroyer came back with low health/close to death, thankfully i haven't had any casualties yet.

the light cruiser has also similar fate. Myoko on the other hand, almost certainly comes out unscathed.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 20:02:21 2013 No.11374768

So after getting Shoukaku yesterday, today I get back-to-back 6:00 and 2:40 carrier builds, oh fuck, ONE of them has to be a Zui- this time, right? Right?

Get my 8th Shouhou and 2nd Shoukaku. Fuck this game. I'm never going to get my shipfu ;_;

Only thing that's gone remotely well lately is the 4-2 boss dropped my first Tone after getting about 10 Chikumas. Of course it cost me massive amounts of resources making those two boss runs thanks to Mutsu getting critted by the flagship BB both times.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 20:02:36 2013 No.11374772 >>11374761 The real problem with destroyers isn't that they die, it's that they don't actually do anything outside of torpedo strike and night combat.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 20:05:06 2013 No.11374780 >>11374761 Only Shimakaze, Yukikaze, and first ship daughteru that are worthed. Well, you do have to grow some destroyers for expedition (Mutsuki-class has lowest supply need), and destroyer is a must for 3-2 map.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 20:19:52 2013 No.11374817 Why is this game so disgustingly lewd? Why is Shimakaze wearing such a miniscule skirt with a nasty thong like a bitch?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 20:26:22 2013 No.11374837 >>11374817 she gotta go light so she can go fast

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 20:28:22 2013 No.11374841 >>11374817 Whoa, calm down there

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 20:44:22 2013 No.11374879 >>11374817 I agree, their destroyed outfit is so lewd. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI1f6aP9TuQ

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 20:49:23 2013 No.11374890 I want to make ships, then I realize I should just be stockpiling some resources for now

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 20:56:07 2013 No.11374916 >>11374890 Which map are you in now?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 21:03:52 2013 No.11374932 It's a pain to level up destroyers, is really something worth in 3-3 and 3-4? What happens when you clear every map?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 21:03:52 2013 No.11374933 File: 259 KB, 1023x1207, BTIO7okCEAAtDtO.jpg large.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Best ship? Best ship.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 21:07:22 2013 No.11374938 >>11374933 >Navy Field >Warship Gunner

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 21:07:37 2013 No.11374939 >>11374932 3-3 and 3-4 bosses are the only ones that drop Nagato besides the 4-4 boss. 4-2 and 4-3 have the rare carriers but not Nagato. Also most regular battles in 3-3 and 3-4 can drop Mutsu (so can 3-2 except for the easy opening battles).

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 21:11:37 2013 No.11374948 >>11374939 I'm in 3-1 now. Is 3-2 the best grinding spot? I heard they fix something in that map.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 21:21:52 2013 No.11374979 >>11374933 I wonder how real marines who fought in the war would feel like seeing this. Even more those who were aboard Shimakaze.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 21:23:07 2013 No.11374984 >>11374948 They added slightly stronger ships in the enemy formation last patch but it's still the best leveling spot, especially if you have a submarine.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 21:25:37 2013 No.11374986 >>11374979 They'll wonder why they didn't just stay home and play with cute ship girls all day!

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 21:26:37 2013 No.11374990

>>11374979
I think I read some moonnews that mentions someone who served in the war (on a destroyer, I do not think they mentioned which) playing it. There are several tweets about it but the only one I remember is that he is interested in the "damaged ship cut-in".

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 21:32:24 2013 No.11375005 >>11374979 > marines

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 21:33:37 2013 No.11375010 >>11374990 how lewd

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 21:41:53 2013 No.11375033 File: 170 KB, 706x1003, 38231617_big_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Aaaah, Shimakaze. I wonder what's behind that weird cat!♥

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 21:47:23 2013 No.11375049 File: 56 KB, 222x664, 38199029_p2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Failed camouflage.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 21:56:23 2013 No.11375071
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Why is Furutaka so good? I have like six heavy cruisers, but none of them is as good at dodging shells as her. She literally was not scratched in three hours worth of sorties (about 15-20 sorties) while all the other heavy cruiser gets sent to the shipyard every two battle or so. Only problem is that she eats quite a lot of oil compare to my destroyers, and I'm running into oil shortage because of her.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 22:14:53 2013 No.11375122 File: 235 KB, 1033x580, fuckingmaya.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11375071 Picture related. This is the fifth time Maya is going into bath today. Furutaka went into it once.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 22:19:24 2013 No.11375143
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http://youtu.be/ttY1hLbv2cs
Thanks Compass-musu. Took the most battle-filled route to 4-3 boss. I was worried that I may not have enough ammo for night battle, but it worked out. No drop after S rank is kind of a bummer, though.

PS: XSplit works very well. I might consider buying it if I find other uses besides Kan Colle.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 22:24:38 2013 No.11375158 >>11375143 >no drop Are you sure you didn't max out your ship count on the way there? I had that happen once on E-2, that's the only time I can recall ever failing to get a boss drop.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 22:26:23 2013 No.11375162
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>>11375122
Fresh from the reserves and Maya was hit by a heavy cruiser. The others only received scratches. Heck I'm more surprised the Chitose I'm boosting got away from the 2-4 first node with a few scratches.
Though Maya has that insane AA stat when upgraded.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 22:29:39 2013 No.11375172

>>11375158
argh that must've been it. I never counted how many ships I had, and I thought the game prevented one from leaving home port if the player has less slots than the maximum possible drops, but I guess it only tries to save one slot. I should fess up that 2~3000 yen for home port expansion.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 22:35:23 2013 No.11375184
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Thoughts on a 4xBB 2xCV team versus at 2xBB 2xCV 2xOoi/ktkm-sama team for 2-4, guys? I'm just coming off of my warm fuzzy feeling at having caught 'em all and am not unsure of whether I want more endurance or first-strike power for the marathon of nodes in that stage.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 22:36:08 2013 No.11375186 >>11375184 wow, lots of typos. Kongou sisters are making my brain melt. versus a and am unsure

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 22:38:53 2013 No.11375189

>>11375184
Check if your Kitakami/Ooi can dodge enemy fire better than your BBs. If yes then go for them. You BBs will be taking a beating and once you reach the boss it's likely most of them are damaged enough. And kick that level 1 BB out of your team. She'll be eating crits more than Akagi could hope for.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 22:46:00 2013 No.11375205 >>11375184 You need overall ship level around 30, so grow that carrier and BBs first. And for Ooi/Kitakami, I think as long as they could survive until boss, go for it. Also, do you have Saiun?

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 22:57:45 2013 No.11375220

>>11375172
Yeah, normal maps it only blocks you if you're completely full. Stopping you if you didn't have multiple spaces empty was only for the event maps that rewarded you with a ship when you cleared them. That's how I got screwed on E-2, it only gave equipment upon clear so it didn't have the ship restriction.

Anonymous Mon Sep 2 22:59:00 2013 No.11375224

>>11375189
My experiences with the only upgraded turbine I have on Kitakami has been weird. She's turned into the shot magnet ever since I put it on. This could be in part due to the new cover mechanics since Monday but I'll have to grab another turbine and see if it makes any difference for Ooi as well.

>>11375205
Ah, damn, I do not have Saiun yet and should probably work on that as soon as possible. 20/60/10/110, right? Or is it 20/20/10/110?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 23:02:32 2013 No.11375234 >>11375224 I don't know but whenever I take one of my DDs or light cruisers to boost them on 2-4, I equipped them with the turbine and they rarely get hit ever since.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 23:56:45 2013 No.11375366 >>11375224 70/90/60/110 or 50/50/10/110. I got it from both, though I'd recommend the former recipe.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 2 23:58:30 2013 No.11375375 >>11375224 70/90/60/110 or 20/60/10/110. I got it from both, though I'd recommend the former recipe.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 00:10:15 2013 No.11375413 File: 598 KB, 800x480, Ooicchi x ktkm-sama OTP.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] OTP

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 00:10:15 2013 No.11375414

How does modernizing and remodeling work?

Modernizing sacrifices ships to add stats, but is there a limit to how many ships you can consume? Does it matter if you eat 1 ship or 5 at once?

Remodeling makes a new ship version with base stats/level reset to default right? Do you lose your stats from modernization?

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 00:12:01 2013 No.11375427

>>11375414
From experience, adding more ships increases the chances of success.
You can only fuse ships on if you haven't reached the stat cap for all the bonuses they give. If the fusion has at least one stat that can still be boosted, you can still fuse.

I don't know if remodeling resets modernization, but I think it does.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 00:12:30 2013 No.11375423 >>11375414 post-refit stats are different (generally higher) than level 1 stats, and yes the stats get reset to base level of post-refit stats. For modernization, I think there's a small bonus for using more than one ship at once.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 00:24:15 2013 No.11375457 >>11375414 You will succeed 100% for modernization if you use 2 or more ships. Though the real amount of successful ship that's fused is still random (like when you use 4 ships, the increment may only come from 1 ship, or all of them, but never be 0).

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 00:27:45 2013 No.11375462

>>11375427
It seems to be dependent on the maximum possible bonus. Modernization never "fails" unless the random roll gives you no bonus whatsoever. So if you're expecting a max bonus of +1 to 1 stat (not uncommon when eating 1 ship), there's a much higher chance of failure.

From anecdotal observation I don't think stat caps affect that though. For example, if you're 1 away from the cap and fuse 2 ships which would normally give you a +4 bonus, you still have a high chance of success. I think.

But then, failure doesn't really make a big difference unless you're specifically doing it for the quest bonus. Fusing 2 ships for a maximum +5 bonus and rolling a +1 counts as "success" according to the game, but it's still pretty sad.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 00:39:00 2013 No.11375485 File: 208 KB, 700x503, 37962152.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's a map with a good fuel drop? 3-2 has that easy 150 steel spot and 3-4 has bauxite enroute...

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 00:46:16 2013 No.11375497

>>11375427
+1 can fail

+1 on more than one stat, or +2 or above will never fail. you are guarantee to have +2 with a total of +3, +3 with a total of +5 (in short, at least 50%)

if you add the list to +5 it will give you one bonus and turn to +6

remodel will reset previous (modernization) upgrades, so don't upgrade them (especially AA upgrade which is harder to obtain) if you want to remodel it later

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 00:51:45 2013 No.11375507 >>11375497 No, just do expedition, the fuel you find in sortie can only cover part of your cost

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 00:52:46 2013 No.11375512 >>11375485 No, just do expedition, the fuel you find in sortie can only cover part of your cost

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 01:00:45 2013 No.11375539 >>11375512 What is the items you find in sortie affected by? I know I've gotten x10 and x30 from the same spot on a map. Is it because of my level, my flagship, or is it just luck/random?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 01:03:46 2013 No.11375546 >>11375512 completely random, with same fleet you can get 10 to 45 (in 1-3), that range depends on the map (some map are fixed)

>>	Adolf Hitler Loves !RUMIAxIXcU Tue Sep 3 01:08:15 2013 No.11375558 I got unlucky last two lotteries. Hopefully I'll get in this time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 01:20:46 2013 No.11375587 It may be to try a 30/70/10/130 by the aircraft carrier (sparkling) flagship.

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 01:28:45 2013 No.11375600
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I'm a level 39 commander and this is my first Kongou-class battleship (dropped from the boss at 2-2). I've always failed at crafting them and used Yamashiro and Fuso for my entire journey... feels strange.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 01:38:00 2013 No.11375614 File: 31 KB, 125x130, kita.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does anyone have a recipe for midget submarines? I've been trying the one on wikiwiki, but no luck. >>11375558 Best of luck!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 01:43:30 2013 No.11375628 >>11375614 Better just level Chitose/Chiyoda to 12, they come with two after remodelling.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 01:45:16 2013 No.11375630 I get an occasional recipe 46cm gun. Secure how to obtain, grow up to Lv12 Chiyoda or Chitose.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 01:49:15 2013 No.11375637 >>11375628 Those are only equipable to seaplane tenders though, if I remember correctly.

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Tue Sep 3 01:50:45 2013 No.11375642 >>11375637 Heavy torpedo cruisers (ktkm/Ooi) can equip them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 01:51:01 2013 No.11375644 >>11375628 >>11375630 Thanks, guess I'll try getting those two.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 01:52:45 2013 No.11375646 >>11375642 Oh I see. I never got one of them. Thanks for the correction.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 01:59:30 2013 No.11375662 what does this lottery look like? or do i just click on a server until i get through?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 02:03:00 2013 No.11375671 >>11375662 You just keep trying until you get through. When you fail you'll get a screen telling you to wait a bit before trying again. There isn't one going on right now, obviously, though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 02:06:16 2013 No.11375676 >>11375671 thanks. it's only a few hours more before it starts in my timezone.

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 02:06:16 2013 No.11375677

>>11375662
To the best of my knowledge, if you see the server screen that means shit is full and no lottery is open yet.

You want to wait until the lottery is open, and when you go to the page you'll see a maintenance girl, and that means your place is secure. Come back when the servers open and you should be able to pick a server.

If you don't see the maintenance girl, wait 30 minutes before refreshing or you'll see the girl with a cat screen.

Please note I've never made it this far. There's also something about clearing cache, but fuck if I know.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 02:08:45 2013 No.11375680 >>11375677 that was helpful, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 02:09:45 2013 No.11375681 Super sister + midget submarine = Strong preemptively torpedo attack

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 02:26:15 2013 No.11375721 >>11375630 Same here; I got a random minisub from doing 100/300/250/10 with lv46 Kirishima. Just upgraded superktkm, equipped it and took her out for a test drive in 1-1-1. It looks like she's doing more preemptive damage than an airstrike...!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 02:38:30 2013 No.11375742 File: 104 KB, 610x530, 37875809.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So is it pointless to even bother with all 30 rolls after a you're past the 1-4?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 02:39:30 2013 No.11375744 >>11375600 Don't worry, you are not alone. I got my first at lvl 30+ too, and it was also Hiei. But then i got to craft Kongou, and then got the other two by drop at the same day, glorious 3-1.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 02:54:30 2013 No.11375769 File: 166 KB, 1021x791, wikia.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] compare game's card, old and new table http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Shimakaze The top background color depends on ship rarity, from blue, silver, gold to violet

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 02:57:01 2013 No.11375776 >>11375769 Old is better. I'd say you should add another box for the little icons for the old one, and maybe the color headings, but the old format is cleaner to look at.

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Tue Sep 3 02:58:16 2013 No.11375778 >>11375769 Daily rant for the orange color scheme. Rather than indication by color, just put a rarity via tier number.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 03:02:45 2013 No.11375784 If Muv-Luv can get a fan-made TSF game on the unreal engine, what do you are the possibilities of a TPS KanColle game? Would you play it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 03:04:00 2013 No.11375786 >>11375769 I like the new one. The old's borders were too thick and distracting by which I think I mean ugly. Seems someone beat me to the icons. They look nicer than mine anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 03:06:30 2013 No.11375791 >>11375784 I'm expecting lots of fanmade games in the future.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 03:17:45 2013 No.11375822 >>11375784 Wouldn't a grid SLG be more suitable?

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 03:19:15 2013 No.11375827

>>11375776
>>11375778
>>11375786
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Shimakaze

I should put the icon to left at the first place...

For orange background, i hope the wikia can reply me about admin application in this week, we need admin rights to change that orange theme. and for rarity color it just for decoration, with picture we know how rare she is, or maybe we can change the top to light blue or other fixed color.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 03:26:48 2013 No.11375856 Second battleship, and its Yamashiro again. How unfortunate...

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 04:05:00 2013 No.11375933

>>11375827
>http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Shimakaze
I've made some minor adjustments/typo changes here and there. I personally think Shimakaze Kai sounds better than Shimakaze Mod, but you can change back as you see fit. Can we actually get that name to be bigger? It just feels quite awkward with all the empty space below it, and being the same size as the class doesn't quite give it an impact. Trust me, I'm an artist.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 04:06:45 2013 No.11375935 >>11375856 I have two Fusous and no Yamashiro. Trade you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 04:14:46 2013 No.11375944 File: 183 KB, 797x628, kancollecat.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Um... is this the lottery thing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 04:16:30 2013 No.11375948 >>11375944 I think that means you have to try again later. As in, 30 or so minutes later. I'm not 100% sure about that though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 04:17:15 2013 No.11375951 >>11375948 i'm close to getting in, right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 04:18:00 2013 No.11375953 >>11375951 Well, you're either in or you're not. There isn't really much of an in-between, so you can't exactly be close, unless you count the fact that you've gone through the other steps right so far.

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Tue Sep 3 04:19:15 2013 No.11375954 >>11375951 Nope. I'm sure it's starts around 12mins more.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 04:20:45 2013 No.11375956 File: 80 KB, 1196x683, moonrune.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11375944 >>11375948 >>11375951 No, this one says you missed the timing and ask you to try again tomorrow. The image I have is the one that ask you to reload every 5 minutes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 04:20:45 2013 No.11375957 >>11375951 It hasn't started yet, avoid connecting till the start time

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 04:21:15 2013 No.11375959 >>11375954 >>11375953 i'll keep on waiting, then :3

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 04:22:30 2013 No.11375962 >>11375959 Just to clearify - It either tells you to try again tomorrow (or later) because it hasn't start, or you missed the timing completely and tells you to try again tomorrow.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 04:23:30 2013 No.11375964 >>11375962 noted. thanks. fingers crossed I'll finally get in.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 04:23:45 2013 No.11375966 Good luck to everyone trying for a slot

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 04:27:15 2013 No.11375972 >>11375933 Updated, please have a look http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Shimakaze

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 04:28:15 2013 No.11375975 >>11375966 2 minutes to go.

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 04:30:30 2013 No.11375979

>>11375972
>http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Shimakaze
Would it be better if you combine both the basic and upgrade into the same place? It feels like you can squeeze the upgrade table next to the basic table without much trouble. It just feels like a huge waste of space right now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 04:32:15 2013 No.11375987 >>11375975 it's 17:30!

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 04:35:16 2013 No.11375996

>>11375979
Alternatively, you can stretch the table a bit, and for each stats you put original ---> remodel, then draw a star or / and show the final cap.

For example, Firepower (you should really rename Gun to Firepower btw):
12 -->17 (59)
12 --> 17 / 59
12 --> 17 ☆59

>>	Adolf Hitler Loves !RUMIAxIXcU Tue Sep 3 04:45:31 2013 No.11376024 Finally. I got in.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 04:46:15 2013 No.11376028 >>11375962 guess I completely missed it. :(

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 04:46:15 2013 No.11376029 >>11376024 Congratulations!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 04:50:30 2013 No.11376036 File: 1.79 MB, 425x270, 1368366533089.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11376024 Congrats Hitler

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 04:51:00 2013 No.11376040 File: 22 KB, 320x240, congratulations_hitler!.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11376024 Congratulations!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 04:57:31 2013 No.11376056 4 tries later, I got in

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 05:11:01 2013 No.11376072 File: 385 KB, 842x595, 3322428.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't completely understand Chiyoda's upgrading... is it branching paths? Or does she simply just has alot of upgrades?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 05:11:16 2013 No.11376071 File: 720 KB, 800x1196, 37951275.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11376056 >>11376024 Welcome aboard, admiral.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 05:12:02 2013 No.11376075 >>11376072 She's just got far too many upgrades. People just hold off on them until they can do multiple at once, I think.

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Tue Sep 3 05:13:46 2013 No.11376076 >>11376072 Chitose sisters will become light carriers after lvl15 remodel.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 05:15:16 2013 No.11376078 >>11376076 Which is good?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 05:15:16 2013 No.11376079 >>11376072 She just has a lot of upgrades. Once she reaches CVL class, the next upgrades will increase her plane capacity.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 05:15:47 2013 No.11376083 >>11376075 What's the point of that? Also, her equipment seems to change radically with each upgrade, does that mean I should strip them off prior to upgrading?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 05:16:01 2013 No.11376085 >>11376083 Your equipments are automatically demounted once you remodel a ship.

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Tue Sep 3 05:17:17 2013 No.11376086 >>11376078 Remodeling is always good. Some people prefer making them stay seaplane tenders because you'll get lots of CVLs later on and just remodel the sisters at level 50.

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 05:19:02 2013 No.11376092
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>>11375972
i somehow still prefer if you would take more from the jap wiki looks.
for example this:
www56.atwiki.jp/kancolle/pages/18.html
www56.atwiki.jp/kancolle/pages/22.html

ships are sorted as they are in-game, font is not large as it is on the en wiki which makes it more pleasant to the eye. they dont use the IMO stupid DD CV CLDSAEWRA which IMO sounds liky tryharding.

On the quest pages..colors and once more colors
it's a lot easier to read the jap wiki even google translated. Not to mention the overall look of atwiki is superior to wikia
and atwiki does not have that pukeorange background color

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 05:21:01 2013 No.11376096 File: 204 KB, 1270x780, 那珂ちゃんだよー.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does Sendai drop anywhere? This isn't funny anymore.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 05:21:46 2013 No.11376095 >>11376092 >they dont use the IMO stupid DD CV CLDSAEWRA which IMO sounds liky tryharding. What? You should get used to it by now.

>>	Adolf Hitler Loves !RUMIAxIXcU Tue Sep 3 05:22:01 2013 No.11376100 >>11376029 >>11376036 >>11376040 >>11376071 Thanks guys. I appreciate it.

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 05:22:16 2013 No.11376097

>>11376083
Well, Chitose's stats for her lv. 15 upgrade seem to be sub-par for a light carrier, so people hold off until the later ones where she becomes decent for one. Seems like her usefulness (and refuel/repair cost) as a seaplane tender is better than her first light carrier form.

Also, equipment is automatically unequiped, so you don't lose them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 05:23:46 2013 No.11376101 >>11376097 The question then arises if my decision to remodel her when she hits 35 (second light carrier remodel before the last one at 50) will be a bad decision.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 05:23:46 2013 No.11376102 >>11376100 I'll take sarcasm for 300, Alex.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 05:26:32 2013 No.11376108 >>11376101 Eh those two are pretty much the same. They both get the same equipment. Only difference will be is final remodel has more plane capacity than level 35 remodel.

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 05:27:32 2013 No.11376109

>>11376096
I've gotten her from 1-2 once out of maybe hunderds of runs. I had already gotten her through crafting at that point too, and it feels like once you get one of a rare ship they start showing up more often.

>>11376092
That seems better for a stat comparison page. I think we should have an in-depth page for each ship as well as a chart.

>>11376101
I'm fairly certain that her lv. 35 remodel makes her into a decent light carrier, so that one's good. It's just that I've heard her lv. 50 one makes her into one of the best.
I think people hold off for the lv. 50 one because she's still a decent seaplane until then, and costs less to repair and refuel so it's easier to get to lv. 50 with her like that than it would be as a light carrier.

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Tue Sep 3 05:29:46 2013 No.11376110 File: 422 KB, 1044x1200, 1377736948201.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11376092 >IMO twice You used abbreviations and yet you're against it, hypocrite.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 05:31:46 2013 No.11376112 I don't get all this dilemma over remodelling the Chi sisters. Why not just do it? It's not like it costs a lot of resources or there are any negative effects. You get another card in your album and they get a nice refresh.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 05:33:01 2013 No.11376118 >>11376092 I will fix the shiplist once the work on ship page theme finished http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Chitose For ship with multiple upgrades For abbreviation i will keep them on list, it saves lots of space, sorry.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 05:37:31 2013 No.11376126 >>11376112 Some people like keeping high-level seaplane carrier around for six attacks per battle (seaplane bomber, initial torpedo, first strike, second strike, final torpedo, night attack).

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 05:45:31 2013 No.11376136 [DELETED]

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>>11376092
>they dont use the IMO stupid DD CV CLDSAEWRA which IMO sounds liky tryharding.
Don't blame people for being stupid, they even use it ingame.
>CV Akagi Class
>CV
>CV
>CV
>CV

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 05:48:31 2013 No.11376142 >>11376126 >seaplane bomber They need to drag H6Ks (Mavis) and H8Ks (Emily) around.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 05:52:16 2013 No.11376151 Why is wikia such shit, all that clutter, are there no better alternatives? The admin seems to be MIA

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 05:55:31 2013 No.11376165 >>11376151 nip wiki.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 05:57:31 2013 No.11376168 File: 828 KB, 1026x641, 37716490_p0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11376096 >lvl 19 admiral >3 Sendais >still only 1 battleship I never asked for this

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 06:02:31 2013 No.11376173 >>11376168 No rush to pick up a BB at your rank, admiral. You'll save a lot of fuel and steel by leveling three or four heavy cruisers for World 2 farming in the future. The battleship drops will come naturally then.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 06:08:16 2013 No.11376183 >>11376109 >That seems better for a stat comparison page. I think we should have an in-depth page for each ship as well as a chart. Something like this ? http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/EliteCV

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 06:10:01 2013 No.11376192 newfag here, is farming 1-1 by acquiring DD and scrap them still worth it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 06:11:46 2013 No.11376193 File: 64 KB, 170x170, 2828184.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Had all the sendai sisters at one point >didn't know about the quest >consume one >can't find again

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 06:13:02 2013 No.11376196 >>11376192 I wasn't aware that it was ever viable. I just feed them to ships.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 06:14:02 2013 No.11376198 >>11376192 I'm still doing it for KTKM-sama.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 06:14:02 2013 No.11376199 >>11376192 You are better off keeping them, scraping them is worth nearly nothing.

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 06:15:46 2013 No.11376200
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>>11376173
That seems to be what everyone's saying, yet everytime I do the PvP stuff it seems like everyone and their mother has a Kongou type.

I'd like to at least get Yamashiro so I can finish my unlucky sisters quests.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 06:17:46 2013 No.11376202 File: 681 KB, 800x1175, 37848473.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11376173 Isn't heavy cruisers kind of lacking firepower for world 2s? Their canons can barely scratch all the CVs and BBs floating around.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 06:37:46 2013 No.11376220 >>11376151 Mediawiki is pretty good

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 06:50:57 2013 No.11376227 File: 649 KB, 793x473, QtrYS.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this fine to level with for a while, not that I'm knowing what I'm doing, I'm just picking my favorites I haven't even cleared 1-4 yet

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 06:55:12 2013 No.11376234 >>11376227 Careful though. You can run out of resource pretty fast with that setup.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 07:00:27 2013 No.11376237 >>11376227 >Level 9 >Hiei and Hinata What the hell, I didn't even get my first battleship until level 20.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 07:01:27 2013 No.11376240 >>11376237 My first Battleship was Mutsu on level 6

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 07:06:12 2013 No.11376243 File: 252 KB, 591x579, 1368058419760.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11376227 >level 9 >dem ships I hate you so much

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 07:07:57 2013 No.11376250 >>11376227 Battleships AND battlecruisers is a bit overkill (on your resources), try to mix in some carriers/light cruisers with powerful torpedos in there.

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 07:10:12 2013 No.11376254

>>11376227
Lay off on putting all your heavy hitters in one fleet this early on. Usually a mix of destroyers and heavy cruisers is good enough for map 1.

And personally I'd level the battleships in map 2 so that the exp you get in one mission is high enough to warrant the high costs of maintaining them

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>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 07:31:27 2013 No.11376284 >>11376276 I just feel my wind. I just feel my shine.

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 07:49:12 2013 No.11376302

>>11376200
There is no real PvP, you're not gaining anything in the short run by lugging a giant ship around except giant maintenance and repair bills.

As for firepower, crits appear to make up the difference in caliber between BB main cannons and smaller guns. 2-3 will require some nice big guns and air squadrons for sure, but it's a big jump from the main daily stage, 2-2, where a CA in the high teens/early 20s will make about 80% of the good results for 50% of the maintenance of a similarly leveled BB.

Also, still can't emphasize this enough for newbies--don't even think about doing 2-4 past the first node, even if the first node is as easy as a 2-2 boss group.

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 07:54:13 2013 No.11376309

>>11376302
Also if you would rather not spend effort picking a group ships you like by yourself, get Ooi, Kitakami, Chitose, Chiyoda, or another light carrier like Junyou. Or even a combination of all of them! Nothing says "fuck you, 'murica" like ending a fight before a single shot goes off.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 07:58:43 2013 No.11376312 I finally beat 2-4! Fuck that map and the compass.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 08:03:59 2013 No.11376318 >>11376312 Post your fleet

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 08:07:13 2013 No.11376322 File: 155 KB, 392x800, gun.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] sup /k/ommandos

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 08:08:13 2013 No.11376323 >>11376318 Too lazy to take a screen, but I did it with Soryu, Akagi, Nagato, Hyuuga, Yamashiro, and Kongou. Levels between 40-33

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 08:11:58 2013 No.11376330 >>11376302 And of course, saving resources is only athing if you're in too deep and slam this game hard every day watching timers. If you wish to take it easy~ and only play a couple times a day you can pick whichever ship's you want~

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 08:13:00 2013 No.11376332 >>11376323 >Nagato Damn, how did you get her? Did you get it from crafting or sortie? Anyway, congrats, fellow teitoku.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 08:14:46 2013 No.11376334 When do you unlock expeditions?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 08:16:45 2013 No.11376340 >>11376334 Do the fleet composition quests until you get your second fleet.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 08:17:15 2013 No.11376341 >>11376332 Crafted two of her, fed the other one to a ship.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 08:17:15 2013 No.11376342 Forgetting to set up expeditions before passing out, err day erryday. >>11376237 > Hinata

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 08:17:30 2013 No.11376344 >>11376334 After you get your second fleet

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 08:18:01 2013 No.11376348 File: 73 KB, 512x695, stalker.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 08:19:31 2013 No.11376351 >>11376341 Which recipe?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 08:20:00 2013 No.11376353 >>11376351 I believe I used the usual battleship recipe. 400/30/600/30

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 08:23:45 2013 No.11376356 >>11376340 Are those the deep green ones? Should I just be crafting 30/all ships until I happen to get something it wants?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 08:25:00 2013 No.11376360 >>11376356 Yes. The first unlock is pretty easy, iirc just get a light cruiser and 5 destroyers in your first fleet.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 08:29:05 2013 No.11376362 >>11376330 >play hard everyday >always field 4BB 2CV >enemy huntan equip craftan quest completan >resource still aplenty >slaveships workan hard for resources >slave away DDs

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 08:38:05 2013 No.11376374 File: 149 KB, 685x408, ss (2013-09-03 at 08.35.59).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] my internet disconnected while the ship was loading.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 08:42:06 2013 No.11376381 >>11376374 Drop eh, did you still get RJ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 08:44:05 2013 No.11376385 >>11376381 yeah, checked in base and it's Ryujo

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 08:45:05 2013 No.11376388 File: 122 KB, 850x602, sample-033096fd8ba9acda4a65c6b2d5f58993.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11376362 I prefer to think of it as those young, innocent DDs being unfit for the horrors of war.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 08:56:05 2013 No.11376404 >>11376362 Some of us are still at the mercy of Baka-chan and the RNG for that third fleet much less the Kongou fourth. Be kind, greentext admiral.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 08:56:05 2013 No.11376406 >>11376404 Naka-chan

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 09:07:06 2013 No.11376423 File: 11 KB, 303x75, ss (2013-09-03 at 03.04.26).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So /jp/, I haven't played this week because the game bored me, what has changed?

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Tue Sep 3 09:09:05 2013 No.11376428 >>11376423 You can no longer get more than 10 Naka-chans in your admiral lifetime.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 09:10:05 2013 No.11376430 >>11376360 Alright! Got it, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 10:16:06 2013 No.11376511 So anyone has a list of which VA is voicing who?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 10:33:06 2013 No.11376550 What do seaplanes do exactly? Also, I'm low level right now, but torpedoes seem pretty useless: they usually miss, and when they hit do little damage. Do they get much better with level?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 10:36:06 2013 No.11376557 >>11376550 Seaplanes do recon in general. They also provide a little bit of bonus on many stats.

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 10:38:05 2013 No.11376561

>>11376511

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%89%A6%E9%9A%8A%E3%81%93%E3%82%8C%E3%81%8F%E3%81%97%E3%82%87%E3%82%93_-%E8%89%A6%E3%81%93%E3%82%8C-

Akagi: Fujita Saki
Ise, Hyuuga, Oboro: Ootsuki Yuka
Haruna, Shikinami (and maybe Kongou): Touyama Nao
Mogami: Suzaki Aya
Myouko: Taneda Risa
Tatsuta, Tenryuu, Kaga: Yuka Iguchi
Fubuki, Isonami: Uesaka Sumire
Mutsuki: Hidaka Rina
Shimakaze: Sakura Ayane

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 10:44:06 2013 No.11376574 Is there anything I can do to increase expedition success rate?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 10:45:05 2013 No.11376579 >>11376574 you must met the requirment and the flagship level cant be too low

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 10:46:06 2013 No.11376584 >>11376561 >(and maybe Kongou): Touyama Nao Nah it's really her. She uses the same tone and all in Kiniro Mosaic.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 10:47:09 2013 No.11376589 >>11376584 It's not listed, but yeah, that's totally her.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 10:48:05 2013 No.11376593 >>11376584 It is really hard to miss that

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 10:49:05 2013 No.11376598 >>11376589 >>11376593 >I'm playing KC >someone watches KM >clicked on Kongou >Karen said something similar >tfw no face

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 10:53:06 2013 No.11376605 >>11376598 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdTg7vNHhdI

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 10:59:06 2013 No.11376620 File: 322 KB, 720x911, 477442571f70dad10f8831e682ea6959.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11376598 I like her voice, though it's quite easy to recognize. Iguchi Yuka, on the other hand, really caught me off-guard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 11:01:05 2013 No.11376625 >>11376598 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-1qf1gyStw#t=3m31s

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 11:02:06 2013 No.11376628 File: 1.03 MB, 480x270, 1356967224949.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11376620 >Iguchi Yuka I know what you mean

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 11:03:05 2013 No.11376631 >>11376598 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-1qf1gyStw#t=03m31s

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 11:04:06 2013 No.11376636 >>11376631 >>11376625 What was the point of that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 11:05:05 2013 No.11376637 File: 289 KB, 900x1259, 38270634.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11376561 >>11376511 http://kancolle.doorblog.jp/archives/31387106.html

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 11:09:06 2013 No.11376646 >>11376637 Is that list confirmed? I know Kongou is voiced by Touyama Nao, but voicing the whole Kongou-class is unbelievable.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 11:18:06 2013 No.11376667 >>11376646 Not officially, but it's all her. Even Kirishima, who is probably like the first time she's ever voiced somebody with her lower register ever. She voices all four Takao classes too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 11:20:05 2013 No.11376677 >>11376667 >Even Kirishima, who is probably like the first time she's ever voiced somebody with her lower register ever. You never heard of Mizuki Kawashima then (CG players will be familiar with her).

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 11:31:05 2013 No.11376694 >>11376667 Goddamn, that's one hell of voice range.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 11:34:05 2013 No.11376695 Noob question from a noob who just started playing today: is the compass completely random?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 11:36:06 2013 No.11376704 >>11376695 It is random in the sense that you have no control over it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 11:40:05 2013 No.11376712 >>11376695 It's controllable when it goes where you want, and random when it doesn't go where you want. Tl;dr yes, enjoy your coin flips

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 11:40:05 2013 No.11376713 >>11376695 You better start praying to your god son. The compass knows no mercy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 11:41:05 2013 No.11376715 >>11376695 Official says, it's determined by your fleet, lv, status etc. But basically it's random unless we'll figure whole things out. We already know some compass can be controlled by fleet compositions tho.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 11:45:06 2013 No.11376723 File: 76 KB, 730x360, downloadfile.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11376715 It can railroad you depending on how things spin in the beginning. Pic related, it's 2-4 from the jp wiki.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 11:47:05 2013 No.11376725 OK, thanks for the confirmation guys. >>11376715 >We already know some compass can be controlled by fleet compositions tho. Is there any specific detail about this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 11:48:09 2013 No.11376729 I've done it /jp/ I finally got a quartet. So are those kongou class ships good enough to keep in my fleet, or are there better fish in the sea

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 11:53:05 2013 No.11376737 >>11376694 I'm even more impressed by the variations in mannerisms. Maya hotblood, Maya strong. How about that Ayane Sakura eh?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 11:55:05 2013 No.11376744 File: 117 KB, 801x480, maya_gives_no_fucks.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11376737 Maya strong

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 11:57:06 2013 No.11376748 >>11376729 Once upgraded, they are third in raw firepower, behind Yamato and the Nagatos.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 12:02:06 2013 No.11376759 File: 76 KB, 767x458, Fukoda.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11376744 >Ghostbusters Heh. On other news, I got everybody's favourite ship and in the words of Yamashiro, "How unfortunate,"

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 12:04:05 2013 No.11376763 File: 1.33 MB, 1024x768, BTOSJGoCMAAA_6U.png:large.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Oh elevens, you crazy bastards.

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 12:09:05 2013 No.11376781

>>11376729
They have a couple of weird restrictions in not being able to use red ammo and cruiser guns (why?) But they will deliver the most amount of firepower you can get immediately after initial torpbomber/midget phase, especially after you upgrade them with 46cms.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 12:14:05 2013 No.11376807 >>11376763 tikuma.gif

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 12:15:05 2013 No.11376811 >>11376781 >>11376748 Ah well will at least keep Haruna and Kongou then and try to get the other Nagato ship already got one or even the Yamato

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 12:19:06 2013 No.11376827 File: 255 KB, 727x440, 妙高.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Also Anyone know where pic related drops? Seems I'm still one step away from completing the kongou-sisters quest.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 12:20:08 2013 No.11376840 >>11376811 The Yamato is not obtainable right now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 12:22:06 2013 No.11376854 >>11376827 Try 1-4, 2-1/2. you could also try to craft her I guess, 30/30/30/30 has a small chance of giving CAs anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 12:23:06 2013 No.11376858 File: 1.19 MB, 1600x900, 38101000.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11376827 Stage 2 seems to drop a lot of heavy cruisers. You can try crafting too. As for Kongous, I heard they drop easily at stage 3.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 12:27:06 2013 No.11376877 >>11376858 Already got the Kongous shipd, but don't have the quest. I do have the one that requires >>11376827 so I guess I need to complete that one first.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 12:29:05 2013 No.11376888 >>11376877 Yes, correct. You will need to complete that quest first.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 12:31:06 2013 No.11376895 >>11376840 Oh was it a event ship or something?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 12:33:05 2013 No.11376900 >>11376895 Yamato was a event ship, though the devs said she and the other event ships will supposedly be craftable in the future.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 12:33:05 2013 No.11376903 >>11376895 She was a reward for the last event along with both sub-chans.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 12:47:05 2013 No.11376938 >>11376900 >>11376903 Oh goddamn. Now it's entirely luck based. Fuck me. I can foresee tens of thousands of materials going to waste already

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 12:51:06 2013 No.11376944

Misclicked and ran into 1-4 boss fight with Tama at 5 life. She is dead now. DEAD.

How can I go on living now that I lost one of my ship daughters.

On an unrelated note, what does the red, green, blue kanjis on airplanes stand for? And which phases to they run in and zap things?

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 12:56:05 2013 No.11376960

>>11376944
It happens anon. Just make sure she's the first and the last ship you sent her off.

As for the airplanes, if I remember correctly, red - bomber, green - airplanes that deal with other airplanes, blue - I think it's torpedo bomber. Red attacks at every turn but before the battle start, every plane is sortied for pre-emptive strike.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 12:56:05 2013 No.11376961 I'm this guy: >>11375600 And I just got Kirishima from 2-2 boss, my second Kongou-class ship. I love that boss now. I feel great. But now I have way too many ships in the to-train list.

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 12:57:05 2013 No.11376964

>>11376944
My condolences, but if you ever misclick again and don't feel too bad about abusing the game minorly, you can close/refresh the game (tab, window, whatever) and it'll kick you out of the mission immediately.

The kanji colors correspond roughly to the guns of the same color. Red are standard bombers, green are air superiority fighters, and blue are torpedo bombers.
There's also yellow, which are recon, but they're rarer.
Torpedo bombers and fighters only launch in the pre-battle phase, while bombers launch during both then and the day battle phase. I think there's some that launch at night too, but I'm not sure.

Also, what were the equipment combos involving yellow guns again? I finally got some spare 15.2 cm ones and I'm not sure what to do with them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 13:00:05 2013 No.11376970 >>11376961 >But now I have way too many ships in the to-train list. Same here. I'm really tempted to expand my home port now so I could collect all dem ship daughters.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 13:01:05 2013 No.11376973 >>11376944 Big deal, I had a lvl 28 Light Cruiser instant die from no fatigue and max HP to a critical hit from an enemy battleship. I swore and swore at the screen that day. RIP in peace Tatsuda, your replacement never felt the same.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 13:11:07 2013 No.11376999 >>11376973 It's Tatsuta.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 13:43:07 2013 No.11377042 FYI, there's scheduled maintenance tomorrow, 11AM, JST.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 13:45:06 2013 No.11377045 >>11376964 Has anyone an impression of which kind is the better one? I guess air superiority ones (green) are not necessary on areas without other carriers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 14:18:07 2013 No.11377111 >>11377045 Blue seems to be the best at dealing damage when they hit, but equipping only blue ones means your carriers are near useless after the pre-battle. It's best to have a mix of blue and red, or all three if there's enemy carriers.

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 14:57:08 2013 No.11377251
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>>11376973
Wait, it's possible for ships to get gibbed? I thought they'd get temp invincibility if they get reduced to below a certain threshold and only dies if you push them into a subsequent battle.

>mfw how close I could've come to losing many of my daughters based on this false belief

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 14:59:06 2013 No.11377257 Why I can't send my first fleet on expedition?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 14:59:06 2013 No.11377261 >>11377251 Theories vary from "fatigued and didn't notice" to "maybe flagship crits are special".

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 15:00:06 2013 No.11377263
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>>11376961
I just went 12 rounds at 2-2 trying to do the quest where you have to fight the boss with the 4 heavy cruisers (Maya-sama, glasses, papapapan & her friend) but they kept leading my to the supply fleet.

At least the exp is delicious.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 15:01:09 2013 No.11377266 >>11377257 Then there would be nobody to welcome you to the home screen, and that would be tragic.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 15:01:09 2013 No.11377269 File: 603 KB, 1500x1000, 38102443.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11377257 Because you are on it. Why else would the flagship of it being in your room?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 15:03:06 2013 No.11377280 >>11377257 To protect home base?

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 15:06:16 2013 No.11377292

I need a better way to get fuels. I know there are some in 1-3 (I only have access up to 1-4), which helps a little if I do that area.

I've seen I should be able to get them from expeditions, but they bring 0 fuel back all too often. Is it based on which one you go to, or random?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 15:07:06 2013 No.11377296 File: 153 KB, 850x567, sample-f563d2029b36c479b08a6bd6c72a807a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11377257 Expedition is busywork, they expect your main fleet to be an active fighting force.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 15:09:06 2013 No.11377299 >>11377292 Based on which one you go. Reference the expedition guide from the older thread for what they give.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 15:09:07 2013 No.11377301 >>11377266 >Log on >No one to greet you >Nobody home >All alone What a scary thought

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 15:09:07 2013 No.11377302
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>>11377292
It's all fixed what you get.
Check the expedition section of the wiki
http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%B1%F3%C0%AC
Or use this chart if you're too lazy to translate everything. The left set of rewards is the actual reward per expedition, and the right set is the hourly rate if you run them continuously.

The consensus seems to be expedition 5 is the best for fuel, while 3 is the best for steel. (they're marked in red on the image if you forget).

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 15:11:06 2013 No.11377306 >>11377302 Oh right, and don't trust this image's requirements. Translate from the wiki as it's more complete and accurate. You'll have to cross-reference if you use both, but it's not too difficult.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 15:11:06 2013 No.11377308 File: 419 KB, 600x1800, 38242915.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11377301 Could be worse. 艦娘が提督にだけ見えてるとか悲しい \| しょーぐん [pixiv] http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=38242915

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 15:11:06 2013 No.11377309 >>11377292 Farm that 3 and 5 all day long

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 15:13:06 2013 No.11377314 When I'm on Japanese wiki I see the term 'secretary ship' pop up a lot. It just means the flagship of the first fleet, right? I change my secretary ship really often then...

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 15:15:06 2013 No.11377318 >>11377314 You're correct. You should also click on them a lot. They've each got one line they say as a secretary and nowhere else, whereas the other two you can hear by looking at their card from the formation screen.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 15:20:06 2013 No.11377333 >>11377308 Oh god

>>	s Tue Sep 3 15:38:06 2013 No.11377369 >Win 30 dollars in my paypal from a contest Oh boy, I'm pretty tempted to drop that money those docks

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 15:42:06 2013 No.11377379 When do weeklies reset?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 15:46:06 2013 No.11377388 >>11377379 Monday at 5am

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 15:48:06 2013 No.11377390 >>11377388 What time zone, EST? JST?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 15:50:06 2013 No.11377394 >>11377390 Sorry about that, JST

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 15:50:06 2013 No.11377395 >>11377390 JST.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 15:52:06 2013 No.11377401 >>11377394 >>11377395 Ah, thanks. I wasn't the first guy who asked the question, but I had been wondering about the exact time. I was off by a lot and missed some quests last time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 15:55:06 2013 No.11377410 God damn it Get in my fleet already tenryu

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 16:10:06 2013 No.11377455 >>11377302 As the illiterate person I am, I thought that picture was crafting guns and items. Now I'll start using it for what it was intended.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 16:13:06 2013 No.11377464 Why is that enemy ship always ヲing it up in pictures?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 16:32:06 2013 No.11377519 File: 165 KB, 800x468, 01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ALRIGHT, let's do this!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 16:34:06 2013 No.11377526 File: 203 KB, 796x479, 02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11377519 Ah.... I want to die

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 16:36:06 2013 No.11377532 File: 105 KB, 801x513, 03.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11377526 I already have one...

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 16:47:06 2013 No.11377550 >>11377519 >>11377526 >>11377532 You young whippersnappers and your wanting big battleboats.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 17:03:33 2013 No.11377576 File: 144 KB, 670x502, 42cf6329f8dd76cb3b4f0bb3a5854afc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11377550 I'm training my fleet for 2-4 right now, I'd like AT LEAST 2 BBs in my A team. Heavy cruisers only get you so far.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 17:21:06 2013 No.11377625 >>11377550 The pour soul. I'm a level 27 admiral with Ooi, Kitakami, Fuso, Yamashiro, Akagi, Kaga, Soryuu, Kongou, Kirishima, Hiei, Shimakaze, among other things.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 17:21:06 2013 No.11377627 >>11376973 >no fatigue It doesn't work like what you think it is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 17:26:06 2013 No.11377643 >Farming 1-4 for leveling >First time going into the room next to the boss >Get absolutely destroyed Why is that harder than the boss itself

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 17:26:06 2013 No.11377646 File: 64 KB, 720x600, im3393952.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why don't you have that tea set, Admiral? Don't you love her?

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 17:37:06 2013 No.11377679
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>>11377625
I seem to have good luck with the "not especially rare but often wanted" ships like Sendai/IsuzuNagara/Chiyoda/Hyahaa/YAGGY/etc, but I have literally no BBs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 17:40:06 2013 No.11377685 File: 160 KB, 600x800, 08fd91d964c82b0a56e99f5223beedcc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11377646 If Kongou ever drops for me I may just buy one for celebration.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 17:46:07 2013 No.11377702 File: 99 KB, 799x478, kongo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11377646 But I do. 300 yen well spent.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 17:47:07 2013 No.11377703 File: 394 KB, 431x700, 37387615.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11377702 300 yen buys 9000 furniture coin? SHIT that's cheap.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 17:49:06 2013 No.11377709 >>11377703 There's also a special item you need to buy with real money in order to buy certain furniture pieces including Kongo's tea set. Actually, I dunno if you can buy furniture coins with money.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 17:50:08 2013 No.11377711 File: 105 KB, 800x491, Screenshot_48.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >daily supply ship mission attempt at 2-2 >compass trolled for the 3rd time >suddenly she appeared Neat.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 17:50:08 2013 No.11377712 File: 128 KB, 578x800, c3f57.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11377703 You need to buy special furniture worker at the shop or it won't let you buy tea seat.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 17:51:06 2013 No.11377719 File: 402 KB, 600x1000, 2ece9385e0d45c7fda4c2f1c56a71181.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11377709 The "furniture smith" or something? Is it in the consumables section? I haven't seen them in the store yet.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 17:52:06 2013 No.11377722 File: 179 KB, 640x640, 38234924_p0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11377308 The 本当は怖い艦これ tag is 本当に怖い. This one artist does really cute work but unfortunately almost everything he did other than this was R-18G, so...

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 17:52:06 2013 No.11377724 File: 289 KB, 800x1008, 37160576_p0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11377711 You lucky bastard, I'm still trying to get her so I can complete my set.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 17:53:07 2013 No.11377728 File: 696 KB, 900x1200, 38094695_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11377722 I didn't like that story, not at all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 17:56:06 2013 No.11377733 >>11377728 It was quite awful. And yet I wish there was more of it. I'm the worst.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 18:00:07 2013 No.11377740 I think Tenryuu may love me, or maybe she hates me, I'm not sure. I've gotten at least one of her day while doing my daily 350/30/400/350 crafts trying to get Zuikaku.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 18:05:07 2013 No.11377756 Is it worth to use the speed up construction material? will I have more later?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 18:07:07 2013 No.11377764 >>11377756 Yeah, you can get them from certain daily quests, expeditions, and sortie missions. Well, you won't get that many that fast, but you can easily ration them and never run out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 18:10:07 2013 No.11377778 >>11377756 If you're feeling impatient, then go ahead. Speed up construction is probably the least used power up anyway, it's really easy to wait for build times.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 18:11:06 2013 No.11377781 File: 159 KB, 850x802, sample-b8fb27b6612b8142f1217aeb2b55fd18.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11377740 Tsundere's gonna tsun

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 18:12:07 2013 No.11377788 >>11377756 I only use them on ships that take really long, like well over an over. I got about 40 of them saved up now

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 18:14:06 2013 No.11377797 >>11377778 >Least power up I don't agree about that. I always use that item when I get a build time longer than 2 hours, just can't wait. On the other hand I got 30+ buckets standing by

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 18:20:08 2013 No.11377825 >>11377519 >>11377526 >>11377532 Holy shit. I just literally did the exact same thing. 400/30/600/30 -> Nachi

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 18:26:11 2013 No.11377849 >>11377756 You'll be doing 2-2 alot, and it seems like the compass likes to give you the blowtorch end node at least twice a day.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 18:26:11 2013 No.11377851 >>11377797 Well you must get lots of ships that take +2 hours then. Usually when I try to build for dailies its either 20-22 mins or 1 hour

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 18:30:06 2013 No.11377869 >>11377851 Well yeah, I use the 400/400/800/100 for battleship hunting lately which spits out building times which are between 2-4 hours.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 18:32:26 2013 No.11377880 File: 473 KB, 820x800, 3400134.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11377869 That's... incredibly expensive. It works?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 18:40:26 2013 No.11377913 >>11377719 On the item mall, middle column, first item.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 18:42:26 2013 No.11377923 >>11377880 Well I think I have a ~40% success rate (= getting any battleship). Don't know if it is better or worse but I got all of them legendary sisters from it, a Nagato and a couple of >>11377711 (+sister ships) whatever she was called.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 18:43:26 2013 No.11377928 >>11377923 >legendary sisters I meant the Kongous with that.

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 18:44:26 2013 No.11377932
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>>11377797
Like >>11377778 said it would be easier to wait unless you are feeling impatient. I like to wait till before I go to sleep and then try and and go for the huge projects that would take 4+ hours and save high speed construction material that way. The only thing you should be worrying about sometimes is development materials because you can go crazy in trying to build things. It's important to note that you can go over 99 for each one of those even if it just stays at 99 in your Items tab. Pic related on the bottom is how many buckets I've saved up since after the event. So that's a little over a week. All I'll ever need is a bunch of resources if they ever plan on doing that kind of event again. I don't even need to consider getting the extra docks either.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 18:45:26 2013 No.11377936 >>11377923 It's about 5% lower than the more popular recipe. Though out of 8 tries I've only gotten Fuso from it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 18:47:26 2013 No.11377947 >>11377932 Damn, that's a lot of bucket stockpile. Do you have farming spot for that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 18:50:26 2013 No.11377960 >>11377932 Yeah I know I can wait for then or let them build when I sleep. But unlike those buckets which can have a decent purpose during timed events those speed-up don't have decent purpose at any time. So why not use them when you have them?

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 19:02:18 2013 No.11378020

>>11377947
I'm usually low on fuel so I frequently do expedition 9 and 13. You'll get a bucket or two for each every now and then. And when I'm low on ammo, I farm 2 for one bucket every now and then. Needless to say I farm 5 for both but there's no buckets there so yea.

>>11377960
That's certainly true. It just makes me feel weird to use it on something I know that I don't really want and will be feeding to someone but you do have a point.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 19:10:12 2013 No.11378056 >>11378020 I'm currently using expedition 5 and 9 for farming, with additional expedition 3 for steel farming and mission clearing. Maybe tonight I'll try unlock expedition 13. Thanks, anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 19:15:18 2013 No.11378088 I actually prefer exped 16 (especially when you go full sparkling)

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 19:52:31 2013 No.11378228

Could anyone suggest me a fleet formation for the 4th map of the first group of sorties? I have a formation of 2 sea plan tender, 2 light cruiser and 2 destoyers but I have the impression that I'll need something of much more serious to fight those heavy cruisers and carriers. Any suggestion would be welcome.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 19:55:13 2013 No.11378237 >>11378228 I won 1-4 with just destroyers and light cruisers. The key of 1-4 is more about anti air (and luck to make it into night battle)

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 19:57:10 2013 No.11378248

>>11378228
Defensive. Gives you a better chance of surviving the bomb runs.

Sounds like you may need to swap those seaplanes out for heavy cruisers though. Seaplane carriers are really meant to be carried by other members of your fleet as opposed to an active fighting force.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 20:02:12 2013 No.11378269 >>11378237 Thanks for both suggestions. >>11378237 Oh, wow!

>>	Maintenance Anonymous Tue Sep 3 20:02:12 2013 No.11378270 本日実施の「艦これ」メンテナンスについて日時：9/4(水) 11:00～17:00 対象：現在稼働中の全サーバ群内容：サーバ＆データ保守、家具の秋更新等 ※内容・終了時間等は変更の可能性があります。予めご了承いただけますと幸いです。なるべく早い作業完了に努めます。 #艦これ

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 20:39:30 2013 No.11378452 File: 456 KB, 800x480, kaga.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First try at building a carrier, got exactly who I wanted. So happy

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 20:52:01 2013 No.11378523 What does plane count do? Both in terms of max plane capacity, and the amount of planes for the first slot, second slot, etc. Does more planes mean more damage, more attacks, or something else?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 21:04:43 2013 No.11378597 File: 694 KB, 833x1200, 36573933_p2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11378452 Kaga's fantastic, congrats.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 21:30:46 2013 No.11378747 30 minutes left until maintenance.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 21:38:20 2013 No.11378792 File: 464 KB, 400x225, 1370363142638.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Good time to pick one of those long expeditions. >80 hour

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 21:42:47 2013 No.11378831 File: 809 KB, 1280x1040, 38286465_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11378452 Take good care of her, anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 22:14:47 2013 No.11378970 >Put in 350/30/400/350 >Get Kaga >About to screenshot >Server goes down for maintenace Y-you too.

>>	Adolf Hitler Loves !RUMIAxIXcU Tue Sep 3 22:23:22 2013 No.11379000 >>11378970 I was 1 minute and 30 seconds away from my first couple of ships being built. I had a battleship and a destroyer temp in the works but yeah now I got to wait six hours to find out what happened.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 22:25:22 2013 No.11379014 >>11379000 Damn, I was 5 minutes from getting my first carrier.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 22:38:38 2013 No.11379074 File: 189 KB, 806x594, kancollemaintenance.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Maintenance ongoing till 17:00 ;_;

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 22:42:24 2013 No.11379081 File: 220 KB, 849x1200, 13a472600ea89323d6270d87d7df3816a7d23dc8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So...how are the wiki contributors coming along?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 22:49:26 2013 No.11379100 >>11379081 Is it still orange?

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 22:49:38 2013 No.11379101

Ok, so I actually emailed Kadokawa games to see if they will ever be releasing in the west.

This is their reply:

Thank you for e-mail.

We are able to support the only JAPANESE-language,

Information other than the release date of this title or for the Japanese version, please wait for the announcement of the future.

Sincerely,

*****************************
Kadokawa Games, Ltd.
Kadokawa Games user Support

*****************************

So can someone send them an email in grammatically correct Japanese? Because I guess they had a hard time reading my email.

All I really said was that this game has generated a lot of interest in the west and that it could be profitable for them to release in the west.

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Tue Sep 3 22:53:24 2013 No.11379114 File: 131 KB, 502x670, Caring Teitoku.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11379101 I don't want my shipfus to be horribly dubbed in English. If they'll keep the original away from localization, everything's good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 22:53:54 2013 No.11379118 >>11379100 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 22:54:23 2013 No.11379120 >>11379101 That seems like "we are not releasing it in the west" rather than "try again in Nihonese". This game can cause controversies in the west, and that's why we'll never see an official western release of the game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 22:54:38 2013 No.11379121 >>11379114 I made sure to say that too. I said to keep the Japanese voices and just translate all the GUI.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 22:55:24 2013 No.11379122 >>11379120 But they can at least create an English GUI.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 22:57:18 2013 No.11379129 >>11379120 I was thinking the same, how it would be criticized, etc.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 22:57:27 2013 No.11379130 >>11379122 Then that's not a western release, and there's very little money in that, as we aren't supposed to, and not many of us do buy DMM points.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:00:12 2013 No.11379136 >>11379101 A lot of interest? Where else has this generated a good amount of interest? Keep in mind that I lurk mostly here in /jp/ and even then it'd only be 2-3 threads at most.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:00:43 2013 No.11379135 >>11379122 Why don't you just learn japanese instead? It's not like there is a high demand for a English release or even a English GUI

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Tue Sep 3 23:01:10 2013 No.11379139 File: 364 KB, 800x800, 1377945157365.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Not to mention how their own fanbase would react. They might be okay with it too or they might go　ＷＡＩＴＯ　ＰＩＧＧＵ　ＧＯ　ＨＯＭＵ．

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:03:44 2013 No.11379141 >>11379101 have you tried e-mailing them in both ego and nihongo?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:05:41 2013 No.11379144 >>11379141 Only in English. I don't think my Jap is good enough yet to ask them something like that without it looking retarded. >>11379139 It's not like there is a chat anyway to begin with so people wouldn't even be able to tell who is who.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:06:12 2013 No.11379146 >>11379141 >Ego No, he needs to use Kongo's BURNING LOVE engrish to appeal to them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:07:01 2013 No.11379151 File: 399 KB, 500x375, tumblr_mranthEoY91qze9qao1_500.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11379101 Please stop spreading Japanese imperialism all over our properly civilized white-man nations. Thank you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:07:26 2013 No.11379149 >>11379146 for all we know that e-mail reply is system-generated.

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:08:40 2013 No.11379153

>>11379120
>>11379129
lol there is no controversy.

It's just a game with girls as ships.

It's not like they are releasing a loli hentai game or something like that. Kohime Musou browser game went just fine in the western release. Don't be such downers, dudes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:09:32 2013 No.11379155 >>11379153 It's a game making light of historical battles by ripping underaged girls clothes off.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:10:12 2013 No.11379158 >>11379149 I was going to say this to begin with. They probably saw the english and just used google translated to say that they couldn't help him because they can't read english.

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:10:16 2013 No.11379159
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>Wanting English version
Full retard, man.

And one of the reasons why it's region locked in the first place is DMM is largely known as an adult site and I guess they didn't want sensitive Westerners to get all offended and sue or something.

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:12:31 2013 No.11379165

>>11379155
>historical battles

Um the enemies are aliens, not Americans. Maybe I'd agree with you if you were sinking Iowa-girl and Essex-girl on PARL HARBL map.

Plus you can play games like Battlestations Pacific and force the US to surrender and nobody gave a shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:14:42 2013 No.11379174 >>11379159 They can just use another website for the localization. Plus it's not like DMM HAS ENGLISH GUI or anything, right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:14:57 2013 No.11379176 >>11379153 It'd only require and article on shitkaku criticizing something negatively to start a shitstorm. Dragon's Crown was just a game too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:16:12 2013 No.11379180 >>11379165 I think you missed the point.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:16:34 2013 No.11379182 >>11379174 DMM has nothing to do with kancolle The game is just hosted on their site, they don't control any content

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:16:57 2013 No.11379183 >>11379176 There is no controversy on dragon's crown. It's just shitkaku and Koshitku that are overdoing it and creating artificial controversy about nothing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:18:27 2013 No.11379185 >>11379182 Well it seemed like in that post you were just talking about DMM. This game has 0 (none) adult content.

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:21:58 2013 No.11379190

>>11379101
It already amazes me that they bothered to reply in the first place... I have to say that I've little experience with Japanese online games besides a Daisenryaku one, but in that case there was an English interface available, even though the game required you to go through the usual proxy stuff to register.

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:24:27 2013 No.11379195

Alright, allow me to summarize how people could start shitstorms over the game.

"This is CP" "They are sexualizing little girls"

"Those alien things are clearly allied vessels and Japan is glorifying Imperial Japan, again"

"My (grand)father is a veteran and he found this offensive"

etc etc. They don't even have to be valid complaints. The point is that the devs aren't willing to take risks, when there's no guarantee that they'll be making enough money to make the risk-taking worthy.

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:26:27 2013 No.11379197

All you terrible people who are arguing about localizing this game need to go help with the English wiki instead. Even filling out simple things like composition quest blank table squares is needed right now.

Unless you're not playing the game because it isn't in English and/or you're butthurt about not getting picked for server lottery. You guys can go fuck yourselves.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:26:27 2013 No.11379198 >>11379195 shit like that hasn't stopped games from being released here before. Ok maybe some games, but not all of them. Especially ones without actual sexual content.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:26:59 2013 No.11379199 Also, this game already has capacity problems and there's no way they're going to let a bunch of gaijins flood in when they could be serving Moonlanders that have a higher probability of giving them money, like in mobile games.

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:29:13 2013 No.11379205

>>11379197
I got in and I'm enjoying it, but having an actual western release(IMO), would be better for the majority of western people looking to play/are playing this game right now.

But yeah, the best thing to do for now anyway is to work on the wiki.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:30:43 2013 No.11379212 >>11379197 I'm moonrunes-capable. As the wiki absolutely does not help me, it's too much of a bother. Nah, I'm just kidding. I did two pages already, and I'll contribute some more once the admin removes that avatarfagging-gone-wrong image upload.

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Tue Sep 3 23:31:30 2013 No.11379215 File: 433 KB, 1000x1000, 1376542097882.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11379197 Is it still in orange? My weak eyes start to hurt within 20 seconds from looking at it.

Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:31:30 2013 No.11379216

>>11379101
There's no reason to release this game in the west. The profit to be made is next to none, setting up servers, maintaining servers, and having to advertise just to draw in players would already net them at a loss.

Westerns players aren't like eastern players, most of them don't find the appeal for moe.

For niche games being brought over, you can see games like koihime musou and sword girls(popular in korea, not that popular in japan but it can maintain itself with a decent player base to the point in which it makes its own content) which are basically dead in the dirt at this point

Why would Kantai Collection be any different? Browser games outside of facebook have absolutely 0 appeal

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:32:01 2013 No.11379224 >>11376126 Has there actually been a time when people failed the recon? It really seems like there's a really high chance for it to succeed even without the Seaplane Carriers >>11378088 Those development materials really are a nice addition.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:32:58 2013 No.11379222 >>11379197 Where is the admin

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:36:58 2013 No.11379234 >>11379216 Thanks for your opinion, man.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:45:44 2013 No.11379250 >>11379224 Eh, it'll fail if your unit is low level with low detection stats. Sea planes are useless otherwise, hence why they change classes to stay relevant.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:51:01 2013 No.11379261 How long is maintenance scheduled to go on, anyway?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:53:15 2013 No.11379263 >>11379261 Till 1700 JST as far as I know

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:54:31 2013 No.11379265 >>11379101 >Asking nipponese to leak their military rearming propaganda to the west Nice try

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 3 23:56:01 2013 No.11379271 >>11379263 and then they start another lottery at 17:30 JST hope they can finish on time

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 00:01:33 2013 No.11379276 File: 729 KB, 920x1200, 37610554.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Four more hours til you'll see your ship daughter or wife again.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 00:05:46 2013 No.11379289 >>11379276 What if I don't see any of them as my daughter or wife?

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Wed Sep 4 00:07:01 2013 No.11379294 >>11379289 Then they're your subordinates, Admiral.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 00:07:04 2013 No.11379295 File: 118 KB, 750x1000, 3328178.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11379276 What are you talking about? I'm playing with them right now. Just got Fuso killed near Palermo. It was a terrible accident that shouldn't have happened.

>>	Adolf Hitler Loves !RUMIAxIXcU Wed Sep 4 00:09:01 2013 No.11379299 >>11379295 Nice, it's working now. Can someone make a new thread?

>>	Adolf Hitler Loves !RUMIAxIXcU Wed Sep 4 00:10:47 2013 No.11379302 >>11379299 Nevermind. wtf happened? Or were you just being sarcastic?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 00:11:16 2013 No.11379303 Furutaka > Ikazuchi > Hibiki > Haruna > Kongo Hatsushimo > Zuihou > Tenryuu > Everyone else > Shimakaze D-did I rank them well?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 00:11:32 2013 No.11379305 >>11379302 Looks like you were bamboozled!

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 00:12:46 2013 No.11379309 >>11379302 >>11379299 Sorry. I was playing Hearts of Iron III. Forgot to mention it because I was busy trying to stop Yamashiro from stabbing me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 00:13:36 2013 No.11379312 File: 106 KB, 640x900, 38284686_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11379303 Tenryu is the best.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 00:14:17 2013 No.11379315 What kind of things would you like to see in the money/cash shop? costumes?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 00:16:02 2013 No.11379322 File: 23 KB, 400x400, ab5fdcc1a7068087789dec2b8815606b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm not sure about the difference between A11 and A12, I'm trying to translate but I'm sleepy, halp.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 00:16:31 2013 No.11379321 >>11379315 Bigger tits option for all ships when remodeled. Imagine Ushio.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 00:18:31 2013 No.11379323 >>11379315 Ability to change Kitakami's and Ooi's costumes to their SUPER form after they're remodeled to HYPER form.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 00:20:19 2013 No.11379332 File: 316 KB, 800x601, 1377988565892.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11379303 Furutaka? Really? Also, Inazuma > Ikazuchi.

>>	Adolf Hitler Loves !RUMIAxIXcU Wed Sep 4 00:21:37 2013 No.11379335 >>11379309 Oh, ok. Well the NF2 European open beta is out. It's pretty nice. But you need a VPN to log in if you're in America.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 00:22:16 2013 No.11379339 http://kantaicollection.wikispaces.com/ Don't ask why. Freely editable, though I guess you have to be a member to add pages..

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 00:23:16 2013 No.11379344 File: 1.39 MB, 1499x3955, 3365259.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11379335 Wouldn't you already be using a VPN to play Kancolle?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 00:25:16 2013 No.11379351 >>11379322 A11 requires you to put a carrier in your second fleet while A12 your first.

>>	Adolf Hitler Loves !RUMIAxIXcU Wed Sep 4 00:27:32 2013 No.11379358 >>11379344 I was talking about the fact that you need a vpn to play nf2 if you are in the US.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 00:28:31 2013 No.11379359 >>11379339 You should be able to copy and paste most of the stuff over? I'm not exactly sure myself

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 00:29:33 2013 No.11379362 >>11379359 I'd have to relink/rehost the images eventually, but it's working out pretty well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 00:30:15 2013 No.11379364 File: 627 KB, 1568x932, furu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11379332 Yes, really. She's adorable. It pains me to see her get injured. Inazuma is sorta moe in her own way, but she's just too inept for my taste.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 00:32:02 2013 No.11379377 File: 313 KB, 630x902, aaa7c0099c791c2dd1800f4b4747d8a7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11379351 Thanks, Anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 00:33:01 2013 No.11379379 >>11379359 And what about the other wiki?

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Wed Sep 4 00:34:17 2013 No.11379382 >>11379364 Not as bad as Chokai who coughs blood.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 00:38:49 2013 No.11379392 >>11379362 Though we should probably write our own pages, with the japanese wiki just reinforcing or adding on to what we have when its translated

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 00:41:31 2013 No.11379398 File: 652 KB, 795x1125, 3326607.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't suppose the server downtime will count towards the resource-per-minute, will it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 01:31:36 2013 No.11379481 File: 60 KB, 258x260, url.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What do probes do and how do you get them? Read a comment about them getting you extra resources from whirlpools(?) - my japanese isn't great Picture related, I think.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 01:39:35 2013 No.11379494 >>11379481 Either preventing from losing resources when going into bad weather (like in 1-3) or gaining more resources in certain map spots. I think the former one.

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Wed Sep 4 01:43:20 2013 No.11379504 >>11379494 Or reducing the loss when going through whirlpools.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 01:44:05 2013 No.11379508 >>11379494 Someone tested it in a previous thread and said it only prevents the ship it's equipped on from losing resources when going through whirlpools.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 03:05:05 2013 No.11379722 Does anyone actually like that stupid fucking ******* other than 3 dipshits who keep replying to me?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 03:09:36 2013 No.11379729 I keep getting errors at the DMM log-in page, wtf

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 03:10:50 2013 No.11379731 >>11379729 See >>11378270

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 03:12:51 2013 No.11379735 Huh, the maintenance is finished earlier than usual.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 03:20:05 2013 No.11379745 >>11379735 maintenance is over. there appears to be difficulties in logging in.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 03:21:36 2013 No.11379746 File: 692 KB, 600x840, Fetish Acquired.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Neat.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 03:24:35 2013 No.11379755 ChangeLog 1. added new furniture. 4 free, 2 paid. 2. tweaked 2-4, area 3 and area 4 enemies.

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Wed Sep 4 03:27:34 2013 No.11379765 File: 688 KB, 1180x820, 1376815703571.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11379755 >tweaked 2-4 Gonna try clearing it with my measly level 25~ fleet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 03:29:00 2013 No.11379771 Is there a cap on resources?

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Wed Sep 4 03:31:01 2013 No.11379774 >>11379771 The cap is only for the regeneration per minute. Press the tab right under your name and somewhere in the bottom right.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 03:31:09 2013 No.11379773 File: 398 KB, 600x847, 37592883.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 30 minutes more.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 03:37:47 2013 No.11379785 On 9/11 updates, one DD will get another remodeling incl new graphic at higher lvl. Also announced that they'll open new map(area 5) later this month.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 03:39:09 2013 No.11379790 来週メンテナンス＆アップデートの予告です。次回のメンテは、9/11(水)を予定しています。ある駆逐艦1隻が高いレベルにおいて、さらなる改装(改造)が可能となる予定です(艦娘グラフィックもノーマル＆ダメージ共に変化します)。また、今月後半には新海域が投入される予定です！ Next week... New destroyer ? Maybe this teamkiller... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_destroyer_Nowaki

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 03:40:47 2013 No.11379793 >>11379790 >ある駆逐艦1隻が高いレベルにおいて No, it says "a certain destroyer" is getting a new upgradeable form.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 03:40:47 2013 No.11379794 >>11379785 No nowaki yet ?! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_destroyer_Nowaki

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 03:42:49 2013 No.11379798 File: 545 KB, 1680x1050, im3393817.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's totally going to be Inazuma.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 03:42:51 2013 No.11379799 File: 67 KB, 339x480, RHPdd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11379793 Will Shimakaze now get a stripe thong?

>>	Adolf Hitler Loves !RUMIAxIXcU Wed Sep 4 03:43:33 2013 No.11379801 Damn. Battleship build turned out to only be a heavy cruiser.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 03:45:16 2013 No.11379805 >>11379801 DDs and CAs have different build time, you should be able to expect the outcome as soon as it comes out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 03:46:47 2013 No.11379812 >>11379793 mfw it's shimakaze

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 03:46:47 2013 No.11379813 File: 105 KB, 777x353, kantai collection maint error2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So, what's this error about?

>>	Adolf Hitler Loves !RUMIAxIXcU Wed Sep 4 03:47:47 2013 No.11379814 >>11379805 It was both one hour. For my Battleship temp and the destroyer temp. So, if it was longer then that I should expect something else? The heavy cruiser I got was Aoba.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 03:47:49 2013 No.11379815 File: 762 KB, 1193x900, 3333501.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11379801 Protip: Nothing good ever comes out if the build time is less than 2 hours. Unless it's exactly 30 minutes, or to an extent, exactly 24 minutes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 03:50:03 2013 No.11379818 >>11379813 Server busy, I get this too. The other time it took almost a day before I could play again so I suggest you to take it easy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 03:50:46 2013 No.11379817 >>11379815 >eating behelit oh, my.

Anonymous Wed Sep 4 03:51:10 2013 No.11379820
File: 75 KB, 802x483, Screenshot_50.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Damn, I see bathtub in the furniture shop. If only I could buy that furniture construction thing...
>>11379814
DDs have construction time about 4-5 hours, depending on the class.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 03:55:02 2013 No.11379826 >>11379820 What DD have a 4-5 hour construction time?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 03:57:32 2013 No.11379830 >>11379826 Fuck, messed up the abbreviations, should be BBs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 04:11:02 2013 No.11379863 New thread?

Anonymous Wed Sep 4 04:13:48 2013 No.11379867

I've decided that it's not worth crafting ships. I've been getting lots of battleships and aircraft carriers from stage 2 maps, and I haven't felt the need to build anything besides better guns. My supplies have been accumulating because I haven't been doing anything with them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 04:17:03 2013 No.11379878 File: 289 KB, 813x599, kancollecat2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hopefully, I can (finally) get in today.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 04:26:02 2013 No.11379892 >>11379878 just make sure don't refresh too often than allowed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 04:26:32 2013 No.11379888 >>11379878 Only 34 minutes to go

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 04:27:47 2013 No.11379894 >>11379863 New Thread >>11379891 >>11379891

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 04:30:17 2013 No.11379900 >>11379892 ...um, how many times would that be?

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Wed Sep 4 04:32:02 2013 No.11379906 >>11379900 Your image says per 10minutes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 4 04:38:48 2013 No.11379913 >>11379878 I atleast think it is easier than before to get in now

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