/jp/ - Otaku Culture

The wiki we have so far http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Kancolle_Wiki

It would be nice to have a link with all the "tutorial images" together.

>>11363637
Feel free to make it

>>11363637
>>11363640
Here we go: http://pastebin.com/bRpdhnqt

>>11363627
Building ship list on wikia... hope i can finish it today

If you stop by and see any problem please feel free to notice me here or on wikia message

Is there an exp penalty from doing consecutive practice battles? I just did 5 and won through them all but the exp seemed to drop significantly on each one. Last one only gave 80 base and second last gave 120 base.

>>11363706
I think it depends on the level of their flagship.
High lvl = high exp

>>11363725
Which brings us to another PSA from the Admiralty:
Before you go to work or sleep, or happen to be around the time of updating the practice battle list (0300 and 1500 JST), please put only one ship (preferably the highest-level one that is not submarine) in the 1st flotilla. That way you can help others level and clear those blasted victory quests.

>>11363725
Oh, so I guess that was just a coincidence.

>>11363739
Didn't know that, that explains why I usually see the player on top with only one ship.

>>11363739
I used to think that I was seeing some kind of etiquette thing like that among the elevens, but now I'm sure that was just people abusing the invincible flagship before they patched it. I virtually never see single-ship fleets anymore since the update.

It's still incredibly easy to win practice battles with a proper fleet, although the lack of single-ship opponents does screw over my ability to send Ooi + 5 destroyers and end up with 5 sparkling destroyers for expeditions.

>>11363799
A valid point, although personally I did not abuse that and maintained a single-ship practice policy. I think we should promote it more and take it back to our hands.

>>11363799
>end up with 5 sparkling destroyers for expeditions
What's the point ? Only red fatigue affects expeditions, it worked fine when it was orange.

>>11363818
There's a bonus.

>>11363827
What bonus ?

>>11363840
Sparkling teams gives chances (I think all 6 giving 100% chance) of critical success on expedition, giving 1.5x exp and 2x resources (or the other way around).

>>11363854
50% more mats and twice the exp.
and.. critical success ? rather, "big success".

I'm pretty sure all 6 are 100% yeah, but the rate using the sufficient 4 fleet ships is pretty good anyway.

>>11363862
Ah, thank you. :)
It literally translate to "big success", but coming from /tg/, critical success is more familiar for me so :p

>>11363864
Fuck off.

My light carriers are losing planes, will it fix itself ?

>>11363869
Resupply them and the plane will come back at the expense of your bauxite.

So I could just give two of these to Shimakaze and turn her into Sanic?

Though I guess it would help out subs, more.

>>11363959
Miss again ? Try harder, BB.

>>11364047
Is she trying to be crazy AI jet?

>>11364047

this must help for 3-2.
I won't even try it before I get yukikaze and shimakaze.

Are light cruisers actually worth leveling? They seem like just a middle ground between destroyers and heavy cruisers, and don't seem very useful. It's better to just focus on others and mostly ignore these or will I need these for something later on?

>>11364070
You'll want two for sub sinking, at least. And that's not until map 4.

And they lead most of the useful expeditions for materials.

>>11364061

>>11364070
rather, HC are fuel and ammo eater relatively to their stats.

LC can be quite useful for some battles against lots of CV or submarines.

notable one for ASW capacities are Isuzu, yura, abukuma and kinu. all of them get over 50 natural ASW, up to 70+ with basic level up and ASW equip.

as for AA, BB with AA rounds, green fighter and low caliber AA guns can do a better job but I know isuzu's a natural at it, too.

>>11364084
yeah, that's what I aim for actually. but so far no luck on drop or crafts.

>>11364089
You can try with 2 or 4 ships (4 for formation)

250/30/200/30 Good chance. And i heard someone met Shimakaze in map 2, not sure.

>>11364087
I don't even know what most of those abbreviations are.

>>11364104
DD Destroyer
LC Light Cruiser
HC Heavy Cruiser
BB Battleship
CVL Carrier Vessel Light
CV Carrier Vessel (regular)
SS Submarine

AA Anti-Air
ASW Anti Submarine Warfare

now deserve the explanation by adding it on the wiki.

>>11364115
>LC Light Cruiser
>HC Heavy Cruiser
Jesus fuck, if you want to use the abbreviation at least do it right.

>>11364115
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Hull_classification_symbol#Warships

>>11364115
>>11364130
I think it should be

BB = Battleship
BBV = Aviation Battleship (?)
CV = Carrier
CVL = Light Carrier
AV = Seaplane Tender
CA = Heavy Cruiser
CL = Light Cruiser
DD = Destroyer
SS = Submarine

Dunno about the torpedo destroyers though.

Will this be translated?

>>11364148
I doubt thats even possible, unofficially.

>>11364130
>>11364138
>>11364139

thanks for the correction but I didn't pretend to use this system, rather the common abreviation found in the threads.

2-2 is really getting on my nerves, I'm trying to do the quests for the transport ships but it keeps taking me to the boss. The jp wiki says having 2 aircraft carriers will take you to the boss more easily so I took them out of my fleet but I think there's still some more factors that determine where the compass takes you. Does anyone have any ideas about this?

Didn't know the 3-4 boss could use planes at night.

Maybe I'll just level on 3-2 for those easy 150 metal drops.

>>11364152
I think most of us uses the standard USN classification.

So I'm going to have to wait for a new server open to start playing?

Well fuck. I didn't put much faith in it but maybe there really is something to loading your whole fleet with battleships. On my first try no less. Now I can finally play the game.

>>11364223
Congratulations!

I'm still searching for her... ;_;

http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Ship_list

(half) Finished. Any comment ?

>>11364346
i find the jap wiki easier to read and more pleasing to the eye than this, but don't stop and keep going since everything can be changed and fixed
i'm sorry

>>11364346
not sure how it looks with everyone but I think adding a header line every 6 to 10 ship could be a good idea.

Also, not sure if possible, but it looks there's an extra line between kanji and romaji name :

>長門
>
>Nagato

rather than

>長門
>nagato

if it's possible to remove it, it should be easier to read I think

other than that, good job on adding all those values.. was it automatized or did you go manual ?
remove orange color

>>11364157
2 Battleships and 4 Heavy Cruisers took me to the boss. I think flagship matter too.

>>11364223
>All these no-kongou bros getting their waifu
This must be a sign. Soon, it will be my turn, right? Right?

>>11364223
You could try to empty your fleet leaving one BB and it would still work.

>>11364346
it will be really nice if the layout were similar to http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Sengoku_Rance:Captains/All
especially the naming scheme, romaji then kanji.

>>11364200
yes, although last night it has opened a new servers. see the announcement on their twitter account.

last time, waiting 2 hours to get one of 22500 account slot proved to be in vain. i have a shit luck.
if only there was a spare account anyone didn't use...

>>11364346
This guy nailed it >>11364357

The Japanese wikis are really easy to read with all the links and everything. But keep up the good work.

I don't need money to win/have fun in this game, right? I'm gunna try playing, but if it requires money the forget it.

>>11364498
Nope, you don't need money at all, it can help you but it's not a must.
But i'm pretty sure all servers all full so welp.

>clearing Map 2 Boss daily mission
>suddenly getting her, twice
Finally, I'm tired getting Maya/Choukai all the time.

>>11364510
Damnit, 4chan. Stop eating my picture

>>11364498
Actually, one of the biggest reasons this game got so popular is because you can do perfectly fine without spending anything. And spending money doesn't give much of an edge over other players at all, most of the paid stuff are just for convenience sake, and some furniture requires it.

>>11364498
No, there's no need for money to win. As for having fun, it is debatable; because some resources are slow to replenish, you may have some waiting time, especially when your ships are at higher level, the repair time can go up to hours; there are fast repair options but they are one of the few resources that you have to ration properly.

>>11364513
What a coincidence, I got her too. Her voice makes my dick hard.

>>11364510
I got the 金剛型 battleship with the glasses twice today, once from building it for the daily quest and later from 2-2 boss. Now it really felt like a waste of materials, I want my fuel and steel back ;_;

I'd take a screenshot but reconnecting to my VPN's a pain.

What's the criteria for making all ships sparkle in a practice match? I got a S rank for one of the matches but the only ships that sparkle are the one that started off sparkling.

>>11364357
>>11364366
>>11364449
>>11364465
Fuck wiki never make a freeze row function, i made a workaround, hope it helps

romaji first and linking, now working on it, thanks

>>11364560
Not sure but beating an fleet with only one ship usually makes all your ships sparkle assuming the fatigue is at default value (at least it does for me).
Doing it in a practice match is only a quick way though, the jp wiki mentions another slower way, just take a single ship fleet to 1-1 and return to base after the first battle and keep doing that until it sparkles.

>>11364087
Unfortunately, Isuzu isn't really an AA specialist in the long term, she just gets good starting AA stats after remodel. Assuming the wiki is correct, she has the same 59 cap as most other light cruisers (while the first ships of their class like Sendai and Nagara have higher caps for AA and about everything else too)

Maya is the one that is actually an AA specialist, with 20 higher cap than the other Takaos.

>>11364115
Aside from the stuff already pointed out, CV actually originated from "cruiser" + "voler" (and all naval aviation likewise uses the abbreviation "V", as in squadron designations).

>>11364157
I thought that radar might affect it, as I got boss 7 straight times with radar-equipped Haruna flagship; when I took her out of the fleet
I started getting transports. But now I put her back in and the distribution is still balanced.

I had no problems today but maybe I should stop sending 2 carriers with the fleet.

>>11364223
I really wish there was some trick I could use to get Zuihou. Just had my 6th 2:40 build today and got a 6th Shouhou.

Suddenly I'm finding myself with a shortage of heavy cruisers to feed to newly remodeled ships, and I'm at last able to buff the AA of numerous ships, I'm churning out so damn many carriers. I haven't even attempted a BB build for like 2+ weeks now.

>>11364560
Sinking all the enemy ships before the night battle helps. Night battles will cause fatigue even in a practice match, which means ships which would otherwise have gone sparkly... don't.

I think the ships in question have to have actually done something (i.e. not whiffed every shot), but not sure on that.

Was going for my daily 400/30/600/30 shot at Kongou and got this instead. Can't say I'm disappointed I guess

>>11364571
>return to base after first battle
That's a great way to waste a bunch of time; I got told that before and ran it again and again and never got sparkles. On the other hand if you just finish the map, regardless whether you beat the boss or not, a single ship is guaranteed sparkles in one run.

>>11364560
In practice matches it usually seems like it depends on how quickly you beat it; one-shotting a single ship results in everyone sparkling, slugging it out generally results in only some of them sparkling. I have no clue how it determines which of them get sparkles (aside from the MVP) in that situation though.

>>11364581
It's been so long now since I acquired my Mutsu, I forgot that she told you not to play with fire in her introduction. That explains why she phrases it as "Didn't I tell you to stop?" when you click on her too much.

>>11364587
Yeah disregard my comment, I looked at the wiki again. Starting on a map adds +15 fatigue to all ships, flapship gets -3, MVP -10, and a S rank win gives -1, so a total of +1 per battle assuming no night battle. So you'd have to do 2 battles minimum on a single map to get it sparkling.

So I have an extra Hyuuga. I already modded my old one into a carrier-battleship. Should I raise this other one as a pure battleship, or just feed it to somebody? I don't have any Nagato-class BBs; the best I have are Kirishima and Kongou.

What a coincidence, I was just listening to an ear-licking CD.

>Shoukaku
Confirmed for best taste.

>>11364661
Just feed it to someone else, unless you really like Hyuuga.

Because I have to wait for 6-hour Kaga repair time.

>>11364683
You don't really need to hide the token, it's not going to work on another computer anyways and you have to get a new one if you log in elsewhere..

2-4 beat me. Couldnt get more than 2 battleships. Endless repair times. No matter how much I wanted it I could not get ship # 46 giving me my third fleet.

oh god

>>11364700
Sendai?

>>11364689
There's one anon who posted his API link in crossboard Kancolle thread, and I remember I used his link for a while. That's why I censored mine.

Maybe I need to edit that picture to find better words. Need to make caution about re-login.

>>11364689
>it's not going to work on another computer anyways and you have to get a new one if you log in elsewhere..
Nope. Used the API at 2 different places with 2 different OS.

>>11364713
rather than censoring it, post dummy token instead.

>>11364731
Huh, didn't work between browsers when I tried. Granted that was a while ago.

Alright, make a revised one.
>>11364735
That's quite pain in the ass. I'm sure those pictures should explain clear enough.

>>11364675
That's very understandable.

Fatalpulse, no.

...Well, maybe. It depends.

>>11364774
Yes please

>>11364774

As long as there isn't scat this time.

12,000 slots going out tonight, starts at 17:30

>>11364937
>※猫待ち画面→慌てず本日は【5分】後の再接続を
5 minutes refresh

>>11364940
I'm glad its 5 minute refresh, the 15-30 minute refresh just doesn't really seem to work out

>提督～！ ｙｕｕ　ｇｏｔｔ　ｍｅｉｌ！ ｌａａｂ　ｌｅｔｔｕｒ は許せないからね
Oh god, Kongou is everything I'd dreamed of. My heart won't last at this rate. I seriously hope they keep with the engrish trend if they decide to expand to foreign navies.

Getting S rank win without entering night battle will make your all ships sparkle.
Otherwise, only MVP ship will sparkle.

>>11364853
Bauxite scat.

>>11364853
Wasn't it just one page last time

>>11364989
I like to picture Kongou having a Cockney accent when she's speaking English.

If only ZUN!bar was here...

http://kancolle.doorblog.jp/archives/32270396.html

350/30/500/350 ?

1:00:00
2:40:00

oh my

>>11365449
Good luck, I myself have terrible luck with crafting ships.
Blew all my materials today and ended up with nothing to show for it but a garbage CVL, Sendai, and "you know who".

※本日17:30開放のスムーズな新規着任へのポイント！ ●接続前にブラウザの【キャッシュをクリア】 ●なるべくキャッシュ【ディスク領域1024MB】確保 ●本日は開始後【5～10分置き】リロードがお奨め！ ●でも【リロード連打は禁止】＆ダメ絶対！ ●【満員】で終了です！

Lottery time

still can't get in

>>11365518
Oh shit I came

>>11365525
congrat !

>>11363627
That wiki needs more content

Holy shit I'm finally in

So am I "safe" once I get past the cat and made an Admiral name?

>>11365561
Cangrats

Try this guys, Akagi secretary.
20/30/10/40
5 times
got green 52 twice
彗星一二型甲
fail
九七式艦攻 / blue starter

Regarding the account,
We can change the login-email through dmm with no data loss right? I was thinking of getting another account to give away to a 3rd anon.

>>11365561
>>11365568
Congrats, current server's bar is around 60% full now (orange).

>>11365561
Good, now be sure to post your starter Murakumo so we could all validate your exquisite taste in shipdaughters

>>11365584
Clearly, Inazuma tops all starter daughters.

Welp I was too late, full server.

Are certain ships just... garbage?
I just got a Mikazuki, and its stats just seems to be below average.

Do I just hold on to it for those quests where you have to collect whole sets?

So terrifying it's in spoilers.

>>11365659
All girls are good girls. It's just that some have historical backgrounds where they had experience. For example, CA Maya can be remodeled early at lvl18 and has high anti-air.

If you level them and give them better gears and pamper them with fusion, they'll perform well.

>>11365659
You mean the destroyers? All destroyers have terrible stat but you'll need them for expeditions and certain maps in higher levels.

Personally I do boss rushes with my carriers and heavy cruisers and battleships, while I have a fleet of really high level Destroyers farm expeditions all the time, and I junk everything else.

>>11365579
I did your recipe and got a bunch of Type-99's and Zero fighters. I have terrible luck.

>>11365673
You'll get it eventually, I used to get missed crafts all the time.

So I guess there are two new fellow admirals today?

So I've been playing for a few hours now and I created a bunch of starter ships and I'm wondering what pic related are:

>>11365696
Oh, is it over already then? If so, congratulations you two. I hope you'll become fine admirals and treat your ship daughters well.
And for everyone else, good luck next time. There'll be plenty more chances.

>>11365720
Locks. It protects you from accidental scrapping etc.

>>11365720
I'm pretty sure the heart lock prevents you from accidentally doing anything to remove that ship like dismantling or fusing it into another.

The number to the left of the planes is the amount of planes equipped. Each weapon slot on each ship that can carry them has a different amount, independent of the type of plane loaded to that slot. More planes increases the effectiveness of that plane, of course.

>>11365727
>>11365726
Thanks.

Is there any way I can increase that number? Some of my other ships have the same plane but larger number, that seems kind of arbitrary to me.

>>11365729
By remodeling.

>2 hours
>still trying to get to 1st boss

>That splurge that occurs when you're finally able to remodel and modernize
Had like 5 extra Ises from 3-2 steel runs all day.

Time to kill things.

>>11365748
I've spent two days, before proxy went down.

Fuck yeah Maya

I wish I would know jap for thee wiki instead of using google translate

>>11365817
I find bing translator useful too(top-bottom view) but it can't access pukiwiki so I use google page translator for that.

金コング | NAiK [pixiv] http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=38196992

>>11365869
I knew that was going to happen eventually.

How is 2-4?

There are 20 daughters.
Pic related

>>11366234
Poor Akagi.

>>11366234
But why are they in America?

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD

>>11366292
That's nothing, it'll increase by more.

>>11366292
GET THE BUCKETS

>>11366252
because it's free, as in free desktop wallpaper.

>>11365584
>>11365594
Clearly MC-chan is the best starter kan-musu.

>>11366308
I actually felt bad. My Fubuki is level 2.

>>11366350
It could be worse. She could be dead.

>>11366292
>>11366296
>>11366297
just did.

and she almost consume all the steel i have in stock.


nomnomnomnomnomnomnom

>Those same guys that keep practicing with my fleet.
I hope you guys love my Takao.

>>11366292
Does Akagi have an especially voracious appetite, or did the reputation mainly stem from her being one of the earlier carriers you can get?

>>11366433
wait, what?

>>11366433
How does one know if they've been PVPing with my fleet?

> her being one of the earlier carriers you can get
Yeah, that. Kaga and the battleships consume more than her.

>>11366525
A combination of both.

>>11366525
She's the 2nd most resource intensive CV. (First is Kaga).

>>11366526
I've been noticing that the same names keep popping up when I read up on the log.

>>11366540
Read your log. The tab at the bottom of your main main. If your offline, your fleet maybe used for practice. It will state whether your fleet win or lost. Or at least it look like it.

>>11366525
I think it's the latter. Any aircraft carrier or even high level ships in general will eat your resources fast.

>All this love for Akagi

But I think Chiyoda and Chitose are cute and I like them better.

>>11366553
I think that's just your previous activity log.

Any idea how the compass works on 2-3? It would seem that the more powerful the fleet, the lesser the chance of getting near the boss.

>>11366619
Yeah, but I noticed the term 'practice' popping up and I do not go practice that much anyway, so I assume that it's other player's.

>>11366619
It is both.

>>11366626
>>11366627
I see, I just did practice but it didn't show up.

>not showing up
Ah, I get it. No one wants to pick me, not even the system.

>>11366631
I assume it's only when someone did challenge you.

>>11366642
I usually see only 1-2 people practicing with my fleet the next morning I wake up. So it's not a regular thing. Doesn't really explain why I keep seeing the same person though.

>>11366621
Never mind. Just broke through with 2 aircraft carriers (Akagi as a backup) and 4 heavy carriers (2 of which are backups), nonetheless, the outcome it pretty ugly.

>>11366652
>>11366654
Ah of course, it's been hours after the roster reset. Silly me.

Atago Stronk

>>11365659
>>11365667
The Mutsukis and the old heavy cruisers have terrible stat caps even when remodeled (Tenryuu and Tatsuta though can be as good as an average light cruiser). The obsolete ships are useful for expeditions though because they consume less ammo. I ended up holding on to each of the Mutsukis drawn by the Akatsukis' artist and send them on expeditions.

>>11365579
20/60/10/110 gives you a chance of getting everything, including the top fighters and torpedo bombers.

That feel when you realize trying to grind 2-3's boss is not a good idea

>>11367126
You should just grind 2-2, pretty sure it's same drop and quite easy.

I just had five practice rivals all with one level 35-50 ship each. That was nice of them.

>>11367133
Good thinking, though I'm actually looking for a new carrier at this point (Zuihou, Kaga, or Zuikaku/Shoukaku), do they not drop from either stage?

>>11367175
Kaga drops pretty well in 2-2, not only the boss but the other ending point battles too. Not sure about the others.

Are they always announcing new servers on twitter? also, full servers always remain full?

>>11367175
Zuihou, Zuikaku, and Shoukaku only drop from 4-2, 4-3, and 4-4 bosses.

>>11367126
I grinded Kaga, Akagi and the 4 Kongo class there.
You rarely get hit since they're all 高速 + the plane scout bonus at the start.

It eats resources like its nothing though.

>>11367190
Full servers will always be full till they open more slots and do another lottery

They announce when they are opening slots up (Usually around 1700-1800 JST and around 5000-10000 slots)

>【艦これ】4chanに貼られてた画像ワロタ　ほか艦娘探しなど
Which image?

>>11367247
It would probably be the one with the compass as the final boss, they seem to love it.

>>11367261
http://blog.livedoor.jp/kankore200/archives/31355022.html
I don't know how twitter works so it took time to find it.

After almost a week of giving up and and not building anything, I finally caved into trying to getting kongou.

I am so happy right now

I think they will be opening servers from Monday and nothing for tomorrow.
https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF

>>11367413
Congrats

Inazuma's level 70 remodel.

Question, how would I play this game?
Most online japanese games are region blocked right?
Is this worth checking out if I can't read moon yet?

>>11367462
check the English wiki linked in the thread.

>>11367484
Thank you kindly

I beat 2-4. Holy fuck.

>>11367484
Lol, the how to register portion is nonexistent. It is also the exact information I require.
Is anyone willing to point me in the right direction?

440 tabs in firefox apparently causes Flash to start lagging, couldn't doing both KanColle and programming.

>>11367512
What were you doing with 440 tabs open, why would you need all of the code up at the same time.
Don't be so silly.

>>11367510
Wiki is still in work

>>11367510
Read the thread, shithead.

>>11367517
I have a habit of keeping useful tabs open, and because I was working on my thesis I was keep even more tabs open than usual.

Just did two battleship recipes for Haruna and Kirishima and both turned out to be 1 hour recipes...

>>11367510
I just updated the registration page and created and updated the proxy connection page.

>>11367525
And now I got a Hiei from 2-4, goddamn I already have her.

Got Shokaku on my 3rd try while doing dailies, thank you 350/30/500/350

Should I eventually be replacing my destroyers with light cruisers and so on

>>11367596
Don't worry, you will. And soon you'll be wishing for even bigger warships

>>11367596
>>11367603
Put your destroyers on reserve; they're the most efficient daughters for the very useful expeditions you set them out to on the side.

Later on you might need some highly-leveled ones for 3-2, but that's way way waaaaaaaaaay into the future. Like, I'm not even close to that.

>>11367613
They're absurdly good for expeditions, destroyers can grind 3 with 100% success rate.

Hey, /jp/.

Carrier, Seaplane Carrier, Battleship, Battleship, Heavy Cruiser, Heavy Cruiser not a bad first flotilla?

It's Akagi, Chitose (twice remodeled, waiting until 50 to light carrier remod), Hiei, Kongou, remodeled Haguro and remodeled Myoko.

>>11367493
Nice job, your fleet is almost the same as mine. Just change Takao for Atago and Hiei for Souryuu

>>11367622
Not bad, but you might want to add another battleship if you want to go for that 2-4.

>>11367650
Thankfully, I have Yamashiro in reserve.

>>11367622
What are the two Chitose/Chiyoda upgrade trees that people want to follow?

>>11367665
10 -> 12 and then instead of doing the 15/35, wait until the 50.

There's a high level seaplane carrier quest and its above the two light carrier upgrades before the final (50). Her 15 upgrade is also lacking horribly.

>>11367676
There are no high lvl seaplane quest

>>11367676
>There's a high level seaplane carrier quest

You mean not just the one where you form a squad with a seaplane tender? Details, please, so that you can make me regret letting my other ships eat Chitose and Chiyoda.

>>11367683
>eating Chiyoda
Keep one give her the final upgrade, rip her clothes, and fap.

>>11367686
I'm trying not to do that to any of my ship daughters.

Probably missing out, but that's how it is.

>>11367692
You sure do
I cant't get enough
Looking every day for more

>>11367680
It's what I've been told by anons in previous threads.

I haven't reached it myself, was just told to hold on to her and not upgrade yet for that reason.

I didn't find anything on the (English) wiki yet about remodeling. What does it do? Does it upgrade the ship to same ship but better? Or does it change the type of ship so you might go from a destroyer to a cruiser?

I just worry that if I try this without knowing, I might send one of my lovely daughters to her doom.

>>11367778
Depends on the ship.

Some simply remodel to be (debatable in some cases) better, others remodel to a slightly different class.

Some battleships remodel into aviation battleships whereas Chitose and Chiyoda for example remodel into Light Aircraft Carriers.

>>11367778
It's usually an upgrade more often than not. Please consult back if you're trying to upgrade Ise, Hyuuga, Fusou, Yamashiro, Mogami, Chitose, or Chiyoda though. Your needs may not match those of others.

One more thing, make sure to take off your precious equipment off of whoever you're going to refit, or else it will get overwritten with the new default equipment she'll have.

>>11367806
Oh boy, I didn't know your equipment got eaten up. Oh well, it's not too much of a loss.

>>11367806
Pretty sure old equipment gets dismounted when you remodel

>>11367816
>>11367806
Incorrect. Your equipment is automatically taken off when you remodel. You will still have them in your arsenals. Just re-equip them.

>>11367806
The equipment go back to your inventory. Next time you're doing a refit.

BTW, the term remodel has been used in the threads, but is that the correct terminology? English Wikipedia uses the word refit.

>>11367816
>>11367820
>>11367824
...I have committed a dumb and retract my latter piece of advice. Carry on, admirals.

>>11367825
改造 could mean reconstruct, refit, remodel, reorganize, modification, etc. All could work.

>>11367845
ヽ(´～｀；）
I wonder what the most "proper" word when talking about warships is, though.

>>11367825
Basically what >>11367845 said. In the case of the Kongous it's more of reconstruction from a battlecruiser into fast battleships.

>>11367857
Oh, in that case, the most common term would certainly be refit. However there are times where it really is more of a reconstruction like >>11367860
mentioned.

>>11367876
Actually, I was pretty autistic about having an extra Fuso and Yamashiro so they can be kept in their non-hybrid form.

>>11367845
I like "retrofitted."

>>11367914
Go look around for pics of most of the IJN battleships, and see how different they are as-built and up to the point of the last round of reconstructions.

Why does the compass like to fuck me so hard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LatorN4P9aA
no-kongou club theme song

Finally, my 10th 70/90/60/110 craft today.

>>11368065

Why is she so hard to get? Tried 14 times to get her but all I get are her sisters and some ships that I don't really care much about. I even use Haruna Kai as my flagship but she still ain't coming out.

She's like Zuikaku level of impossible for me ;_;

>>11368067
is it as magical as people say it is at shooting down enemy aircraft?

>>11368084
I tried using it yesterday and it's pretty amazing.

>>11368065
Someone needs to make the Kongou version of this: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21355138

>>11368067
That was one of my first crafts and I couldn't figure out for the life of me what to do with it. I had one heavy cruiser at the time.

If it's any consolation the only nice things in my last fifty crafts (and 5k bauxite) have been a upgraded 15.5cm gun, a type 52 fighter, a 25mm AA, a pair of ten centimeter guns and a one-star depth charge.

>>11368081
fill your fleet with battleships and set Ise as flagship if you have her
that's how ive got her (also try to beat 2-2 before crafting...dont really know if that helps)

The haunted head of Kitakami demands a virgin sacrifice, or she will curse your compass forever.

My seventh 2:40 carrier build is a seventh Shouhou, fuck this shit.

And I've done probably a hundred 10/300/250/10 builds now and gotten ONE 46cm, ONE 41cm, a couple AP shells, three yellow 15.5cm, and a whole bunch of garbage or nothing, all with lvl 40-50 Mutsu as flagship. I had way more success with planes in the past, but I haven't even tried one recently, as all my bauxite is going into Zuihou building attempts.

>>11368255
Did you manage to pull any radar or engines?

wow.
was there some sort of reset of the ranking ? I lost 5000 places overnight, and the top guys felt from around 800 points to 70ish.

>>11368263
Never built a single radar, or engines, or AA shells ever, all my radars come from ship upgrades and the E-2 completion reward.

It's absolutely disgusting how many torpedo launchers I get considering I have a BB as flagship. And they're not even the good ones (although I have a decent number of those now just from upgrading a bunch of destroyers).

Does seaplane carriers not count towards carrier fleet quests? I tried handing in the 1 carrier + 5 destroyer fleet quest with my Chiyoda, and it's not recognizing it as complete.

>>11368242
>やっぱ戦艦がいいです。

>>11368339
No, they specifically say light or normal carriers.

>>11368339
Only light carriers plus regular carriers are applicable

>>11368255
I was also trying to construct Zuiho every now and then. Then I ran 4-2 and got her on my first try as seen in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rbit8SLwwXQ
Maybe you'd have better luck there. It probably wouldn't even be too bad for you.

>>11368388
I imagine that running 4-2 god knows how many times would probably end up costing more resources (and way more time) with all the repairs. I already tried getting Zuihou from event bosses before it ended. Although looking at the enemy formations, I suppose I could use 4-2 as an alternate source of transport kills instead of 2-2 and its compass bullshit, 4-2 you either get boss (that I'd actually want in this case) or a transport fleet at the end.

Also just realized, 4th map doesn't even drop Nagato other than the 4-4 boss, apparently I'd have to farm 3-2 or 3-3 bosses to get Nagato drops

>>11368433
Fuck. I remember reading that Nagato dropped at like 4-2 and 4-3 too but I guess I was mistaken. Or I was most likely thinking of someone else. But, yea, after checking she does only drop at those bosses. I try to craft her only twice for the dailies and she still hasn't popped up.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21723806?cate_newarrival_anime
wwww

Ear cleaning CDs when?

just registered, and i'm stuck on this page. wat do?

>>11368625
Wait for a slot. I think they are opening some slots this evening, japan time.

>>11368625
>>11368633
Nothing today
Wait for monday, for new servers.

>>11368610
All of my manny, all of it.

I got it /jp/ - why she didn't come.

now I'll make some roast chicken everytime I go for 350/30/400/350.

>>11368633
>>11368634
thanks. i thought i messed up or something.

>>11368255
>>11368300
>And I've done probably a hundred 10/300/250/10
It's 100/300/250/10, enjoy wasting your resources.

Got both from daily/weekly questing 2-3.
Holo backgrounds drops are always beautiful and surprising.
One more green quest to go, but camping Zuikaku in 4-4 will be pain.
I think it's time to break my "no craft ship" policy.

>>11368644
Then how have I gotten any at all? Fuel isn't needed for cannons.

>>11368676
Even 10/10/10/10 could make something if you're lucky. It's just that you followed wrong recipe, that's all.

>>11368644
both wiki tends to say 10/300/250/10 works for 46cm.

of course you can add some more fuel and bauxite for chance to get rare planes and radar.

>>11368689
now I think that's plain bullshit. I don't know of any good results with lowest invest, be it ships or equip.

>>11368689
Uh, that's completely wrong; there are definite minimums to be able to make certain pieces of equipment; 10/10/10/10 will never produce anything but total shit.

Just in case I went and double-checked http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%B3%AB%C8%AF%A5%EC%A5%B7%A5%D4 and 10/300/250/10 is right. Actually from the looks of it 10/251/250/10 might work just as well, but ammo is my least concern. Tossing in 100 fuel would give me a chance of engines as well, but that's it.

>>11368699
>>11368701
It does happen, at least for me. For the daily mission I intentionally do 10/10/10/10 to make failed result (and thus reserving my development material) but about 1 in 10 I get a success result. Although shitty 12.7 or 7.7 couldn't be called 'success' at all.

>>11368634
Have any of us actually thrown any money at them? I wonder how they can keep getting new servers at such rates.

I know I have, I've unlocked all my repair docks.

>>11368720
I've unlocked one repair dock and 10 ship space.
I think I'm gonna do the same when next event comes.

>>11368720
I'm thinking about throwing my money at this game, what is actually worth buying?

>>11368742
Only repair dock expansion, I think.

While I was hoping for Shoukaku from spamming 400/30/400/400, this is nonetheless a pleasant surprise.

>>11368742
Repair docks are worth buying, speeds up repair times greatly if you're not willing to burn your instant-repair tools.

Construction docks are nice only if you have a fuckton of resources and want to build 4 Kongou-class ships at the same time (which is never)

I suppose you can also buy those emergency-repair fairies and put one on every ship you like, but it's really expensive.

The only other things on sale are more resources, in my opinion not really worth buying.

>>11368750
How much are they anyways?

>>11368742
To be honest, after a while, you will have so many buckets that you don't really need the extra repair docks.
Emergency repair goddess' are nice for events like the previous ones. You could also enhance your home port to increase the number of kanmusume and items you hold if you don't like dismantling/modernizing them.

>>11368742
Furniture. I seriously want to buy the Kongou tea set. On another note, the devs would seriously swim in money if they sell alternative costumes of different ships.

>>11368742
If you're the sort who wants to have one of every shipgirl, the port expansion in the shop's special section is pretty much necessary. There are nearly 100 kinds of ships, not counting variations, and exactly 100 slots when you start out, so you have zero wiggle room when collecting. Plus, the developers have announced their intentions to add more ships.
But that expansion is expensive (disclaimer: I haven't actually bought it myself).
If you're the kind who doesn't mind throwing away your only copy of a not-very-good common unit, though, then don't bother.

Repair docs are necessary if you ever plan on participating an event. My kanmusu vapourized about 90 buckets in E-2 and while attempting E-3. If I had saved up more buckets by using extra repair docks, I probably would have cleared E-3 orz.

Another useful purchase would be expansion of home port and the reasons were already explained in this thread pretty thoroughly.

>>11368804
The devs would seriously swim in money if they add "squadron/fleet" where they feature multiple characters in one card such as "Rai-Den" or "6th Fleet"

>>11368804
>the devs would seriously swim in money if they sell alternative costumes of different ships.
Don't give them brilliant ideas! I'd like it if it's free.

How about making the enemy girls persuadable to join your fleet, only one of each kind? Y/N?

>>11368821
I kind of thought that when you get a new ship after a battle it's one of the enemy joining your party

>>11368821
If they came up with new, more human designs for the enemy once they joined your side then they wouldn't have to dip into Western ships. There's even the possibility of a deeper gameplay mechanic for getting the girls.

>>11368831
Like this idea, huh.

>>11368833
It's better if they dip into the Western ships for more Engrish, Alien ship designs are anything goes.

So I needed to level bunch of Destroyers, and I picked Ushio

Best choice ever, why is she so fucking cute? Now I have to train her siblings too.

>>11368806
>If you're the sort who wants to have one of every shipgirl, the port expansion in the shop's special section is pretty much necessary. There are nearly 100 kinds of ships, not counting variations, and exactly 100 slots when you start out, so you have zero wiggle room when collecting. Plus, the developers have announced their intentions to add more ships.
Fuck. I don't feel like scrapping them at all despite knowing I wouldn't field them in the fleet but I don't have the guts to do it.

>>11368869
Tough. I decided to scrap / feed about 30 ships away when I got fed up that my port gets full every other day. Now I have so much space.

>>11368861
>Ushio
One of the most adorable kanmusu ever.

>>11368861
She's also stacked as hell which is great.

>>11368881
Ushio is an early bloomer.

>>11368861
>Ushio's siblings
Enjoy being called "kuso-teitoku".

I kept Akebono around just so I could get her damaged on purpose, she could be cute if she weren't such a bitch.

>>11368877
She is cute, which is why I kept her instead of　カンカンカン

>>11368893
It is a compliment.

>>11368881
>Ushio
>Stacked
>wait what, that can't be right
>Enter battle
>She gets hurt
>Suddenly huge tits pops out of her uniform
>mfw

I am new with Kantai Colletion.
Exist already a english patch?

Why is Shimakaze so damn sexy?

>>11369005
It will never be translated, anon.

>>11369024
Why???

>>11369012
So damn slutty, you mean? No good girl dress that way.

>>11369005
>>11369036
it sounds like you aren't even familiar with English.

It's a browser game. It can't be fan-translated.

>>11369036
It's a browser game with a niche appeal beyond Japan. No way to patch it and no reason to port it.

>>11369040
Going fast comes at the expense of sense. You can't lewd what you can't catch.

>>11369036
How would you translate an online flash game?

>>11369058
Actually I've been wondering whether flat chest = speed. Except for Takao and Atago which tits are due to their weight of the ship, I think it's pretty consistent.

>>11368819
10/10 would love.

Seems like this is the new screen for when you can't continue because your flagship is critically damaged.

>>11369101
It is. It's been that way since Monday.

So any historyfag want to tell why Chitose and Chiyoda are the Caterpies of Kancolle? They get 3 upgrades before they're even level 20, while just about everyone else has to wait for level 20 or above.

>>11369117
and by Monday, I meant whichever day of the week that maint is on. I got that and weekly reset day mixed up.

>>11369120
The only important thing that can remember from reading Chitose's Wikipedia page was that the sisters were built as float plane tenders, intended to be reconstructed later as light carriers, and they eventually were.

I don't know, however, why they get so many refits or why their stats are so OP in their final form. Not that I'm complaining, mind you.

Another horrible day. I did 100/300/250/10 x10 and no 46cm.

Now I'm going to put a low level ship as my flagship to spite everyone.

>>11369157
You're just adding that to your bad karma, dude.

How's your lovely glutton doing, anons?

>>11369174

Being a crit magnet as usual.

>>11369174
Usually put her on flagship, she rarely gets targeted now surprisingly.

>>11369180
Probably due to the cover mechanics.

>>11369182
Yeah.

>>11368881

Oh wow she really is stacked.

>>11369190
Isn't it perspective? The weapon blocks her view after all.

>>11369193

The uniform hides her chest very well.

Don't like Zuihou's new uniform. Zuikaku's colour scheme also changes similarly from what I've seen. Why would you do such a thing ;-;

I counted it. Looks like each plane costs 10 bauxite to repair.

>>11369217
It's 5.

So does oil shortage resolve themselves over time? I feel like I'm always low on oil.

>>11369316
Only solution I have is spamming expedition 5 and 9 to gain fuel and stop getting damaged too much in battles.

>>11369316
3/min if I remember correctly. Take it easy, anon.

>>11369346
3/3min for all resources except for 1/3min for bauxite.

>>11369332
>>11369346
>>11369373

So I guess people always have around 5000 oil because they don't craft as much once they got a decent fleet?

Still stuck on 1-4 because I'm severely lacking firepower.

They wore the camouflage uniform and became a lure.
And did not return.

>>11369384
I unlocked 2-1 without even beating the boss on 1-4, and similarly unlocked 2-2 and 2-3 without beating the boss...might be because I'm too high level or something.

>>11369384
>Still stuck on 1-4 because I'm severely lacking firepower.
What's your fleet composition? I broke through it with a seaplane carrier, a battleship and light cruisers,

Guys I don't understand the 戦艦と重巡による主力艦隊を編成せよ！ quest and google translate doesn't really help with it either.

戦艦1隻以上、重巡2隻以上を主力とした水上打撃艦隊を配属せよ！

Battleship as the flagship(?) and have at least two vessel ships. Don't understand the last part though (した水上打撃艦隊を配属) but I highly suspect it has to do something with Seaplane carriers like Chiyoda.

>>11369385
Leyte Gulf, right? ;_;

>>11369403
This is the strongest fleet I could manage,I have no battleships.

For some reason my heavy crusiers never manage to hit anything, and I always get hit with a evasion debuff at the start because of failed enemy detection

Looks like my only choice at the moment is wait till the dailies refresh and try some more at the lottery.

>>11369416
Battle ship and 2 HEAVY CRUISERS in the fleet.

>>11369416
You need 2 more heavy cruisers.

>>11369421
>>11369422

Oh fuck me, I thought I needed Destroyers. Thanks very much.

>>11369418
Even it says evasion and accuracy down, it really means there's no eva/acc buff.

>>11369418
>already has fleet three at level 7
Good thing you didn't have to play hide and seek with the Sendai sisters.

Raise the positions of your CA, preferably bigger ship on flagship. Let the destroyers do the dodging on 4/5/6. Use anti-air/defensive position for enemies with carriers.

>>11369418
I advise against building non 30/30/30/30 ships this early in the game

Just get around 4 heavy cruisers to at least lvl 10, give them the biggest guns you have, always use the defensive formation, and try to bring them when every single one is sparkling.

>>11369418
1-4 has the enemy CV carrier right? Bring lots of AA, preferably the double to triple 25mm gun mounts and put them in your first weapons slot your ships. Put your CVL as flagship and adapt ring formation with ships 4, 5, and 6 as your meatshields, ready to shoot the enemy's planes on their bomb runs. Equip your CVL with fighters preferably 2 groups of it if you want air supremacy then torpedo bombers and dive bombers. If the planes are still doing pitiful damage, consider replacing your planes and crafting better ones.

>>11369432
>>11369426

The order of your fleet actually has affect on their performance?

Christ, I though it's only the luck on the flagship that matters.

Thanks guys, will give it a try.

>>11369416
>Don't understand the last part though (した水上打撃艦隊を配属)
That's just saying to form a (ocean) surface attack fleet from the ships mentioned in the quest.

>but I highly suspect it has to do something with Seaplane carriers like Chiyoda.
Not this shit again.

I knew I've heard that voice somewhere! Fubuki-chan~

FINALLY

>>11369440
I hope they get more VAs for the next set of ships

>>11369437
Of course there is that's why there are formation.
Refer here: http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=3&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/%3F%25BF%25D8%25B7%25C1&usg=ALkJrhhmuTQW0dzk2XnAgiOX9dQjBeYq9Q
and here: http://translate.google.com/translate?depth=2&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sandbox=0&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http://www56.atwiki.jp/kancolle/pages/22.html

>>11369437
Refer to the jp wiki for what the formation does. It may be luck, but there is some tactics in it.

>>11369445
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21626503

>>11369445
>not posting the video
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21626503

>>11369445
I enjoyed Atago because of >>11369450 and >>11369451 but once I got Takao, my opinions changed.

>>11369445
What recipe?

>>11369450
>>11369451

She appeared when I gave up on trying to get her via building then she dropped on 2-2 twice.

What a wonderful feeling.

>>11369456

It's the opposite for me. Takao was one of my first ships I've gotten by building.

>>11369457

2-2 boss drop
The recipe was 270/30/330/30 I believe.

When it shows proper rare background (not blue sky), it means he got it via drop.

>>11369155
I still want to see them drag around a pair of H6Ks and H8Ks.

>>11369210
Look at the colour scheme their real selves adopted before the sinking and you'll understand.

Oh wow.

To fight monsters that make us use buckets, we made a monster that IS buckets.

>>11369574
Go Buckets or sink.
I was waiting for a chance to post that.

>>11369583
Sorry to beat you to it.
Here, have some なのです.

>Got Yamashiro
>Found a resources on map
>"How unfortunate"
Man, why do you have to be such a wet blanket? Then again, 7 against 1 was terrible.

First Try

http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Shimakaze

Did servers go down or something?
Getting error.

Delicious 2-4-11

>>11369659
Mine's still working.

>>11369655
thats quite a good shape.
It might sound wrong but doing a copy of jap wiki would be nice, as in all the great info they have about real life counterparts of the shipgirls
and when will you change the silly orange background

>>11369655
Give me 10 minutes and I will upload the images of the ships

>>11369655
I'm not sure about build formula, is there any other recipe that works for her?

Also, it'd be nice if you also put her complete stats. And change that orange background.

In addition, is it possible to make submission like in atwiki? That'd be nice for data mining.

>>11369686
You mean the comments section in atwiki? The English wiki has it.

>>11369655
Hoping for the admin to change the color scheme to plain white or something.

>>11369655
I would advise that you put a word of caution on build formulas since results may vary greatly and one formula has many possible outcomes.

>>11369659
Seems fine to me.

>>11369654
You know how entertainers are with their gimmicks.
Without saying everything is unfortunate, she's just another middle aged woman with canons strapped to her back.

>>11369688
Oh yes, there is one. Could it be used for data mining?

>>11369655
>>11369680
Should I name them with theit number, name or both?

>>11369690
That makes me think, maybe build formulas should have their own section of a possible page detailing the build tab. Then each formula should be classified by the likely/possible outcomes, and then individual ship pages could just list the build formula categories that could result in them, instead of every possible build formula.

Then again, I believe the build formulas are more like build ranges, which vary on four (or maybe two, since ammo and bauxite don't seem to be necessary for ships) variables, so the idea of listing them at all is kind of iffy. If I'm right about that, we could figure out the ranges and categorize those, but that doesn't seem likely to happen.

>>11369691
You forgot, she's a siscon as well. That said, she is growing on me.

>>11369697
If people post their result like what they do in atwiki, sure. If you wish to automate, I think you would need a web crawler or sort.

>>11369698
i think number are fine, they are unique

>>11369704
On a second thought, that data mining might require lots of inputs. I'm not sure how big Western playerbase of Kancolle, so that probably won't be effective.

If there's one, however, I think spreadsheet would be nice.

>>11369659
Okay it seems like my token reset for some reason.

This is one lucky day.

>>11369718
If you ever log on normally, it creates a new token. I haven't seen the token resent on its own otherwise though.

If you're going to use any of the third party software like KCM or Teitoku, which require you to log in every time, then you can't use the API link. I wish there was a way to force KCM to use the API link instead of using the actual web page, but there's nothing to be done about it.

>>11369725
That's probably why then, I was trying out KCM.

Sweet program, too bad you have to use a VPN everytime you use it.