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1.130 patch
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>>11339313
The thread is one page away from death, calm yourself.

Depends. You want a tank which can revive or a mage who can ignore enemy mind?

And the most overpowered character goes to....

>>11339325
*resurrect. sorry

>>11339326
Rumia.

3 MP all-enemy attack that ignores mind.

>>11339326
Eirin, so far.

My favorite touhou is Kasen. Is she in this game? if she is, is she at least a decent character/party member?

>>11339360
She appears if you die 12 times, and she's pretty fucking strong.

>>11339364
>She appears if you die 12 times

So she's a "you suck, let me help you" character? Does this apply even at level 1 areas?

Thanks regardless.

>>11339372
You could get through the entire game without getting her. You could get her really early. If you really wanted, you could get her straight away.

>>11339372
Yeah, you can get her right away if you really wanted to.

And while she's good, she's not "win everything" perfect. Its even an achievement to get her so, its really not a bad thing.

>>11339380
I'd have to disagree, there's very few things a sufficiently powered up Kasen couldn't handle at least 7 levels underleveled, and even they went down once I had formed a proper strategy.

>>11339385
Thats true with most characters aside from the casters, but she's not a one-hermit-army, no character is.

Kasen can fill a lot of holes in a party what with having good defenses, good offense, elemental attacks, and self buffs. She still isn't the best at everything though. Its how you use her, and pair her up with others is what counts.

>>11339401
Fair enough.
I really enjoyed how all of my favourite characters that you got outside of BP events worked really well together. Komachi/Kasen/Keine/Rin was an amazing boss killing team outside of 9F Tenshi who kicked my ass the most in the game. Actually, maybe those three orbs on 17F or whatever it was rivaled her for party wipes, that didn't work so well until I figured out a proper way to deal with the healing orb while not dying to the damage orb.

Now I'm stuck in the Sakuya+Remilia fight. That fucking meido just rapes everyone not a tank in my party and paralysis and heavy from Alice's tripwire isn't helping much not to mention Remi's row attack

>>11339421
Yeah, its nice how theres so many viable options for party synergy. Aside from having Momiji/Komachi as a must-have main tank, everything is really flexible.

>>11339326
I think Aya. The amount of crap you can pull with having Aya in your team is insane.

>>11339474
What's so good about her? Just her speed buffs?

>>11327522
Image cleaner, any progress on these?

>>11339475
Her speed is already insane, on top of that every turn she can buff your entire party's speed passively, and toss on another +50% to anybody she likes, even herself. Or just instantly giving someone else a turn, and then taking another turn herself.

I often have her acting 3 times before anybody else acts once. Great for form-switching or making your main damage dealer go two or even three times before the enemy does.

Pair her up with Cirno, making the enemy 50% slower and its just a one-sided hilarious battle.

>>11339296
Preliminary menu patch for 1.130

http://www.mediafire.com/?q5ul571cp0yoxr3

>>11339515
Has this been updated since the last time, or just the same file?

This game isn't really kind in terms of the Japanese difficulty.

>>11339475
>>11339514
To specify, one of her skills lets her start battles with 20,000 ATB, which is how he gets three turns.

My Japanese is pretty shit but I guess these refers to locations. Like the human village and I think one was Magician's Library?

Any tips on which I should take?

>>11339521
forgot pic.

>>11339521
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Labyrinth_of_Touhou_2/Gameplay

This should help you with the basics.

Apparently Rumia very very powerful, better than Marisa in some cases.

English patch?

>>11339326

My vote's on Sakuya. The things Sakuya cannot do in this game are incredibly few and far between.

>>11339574
Marisa's best gimmick is that Master Spark. After that I usually switch her out for Rumia or Parsee depending on the boss.

>>11339596
sasuga elegant maid chan

>>11339516
Same file.

Probably not going to post a new one until the next official patch.

>>11339618

That sounds a little disheartening.

Is there a large number of bugs in the current game version?

>>11339622
Not really bugs, but the game is missing a lot of animations because they wanted to get it out in time for comiket. The last couple patches fixed the more problematic bugs and added in more of the animations but its still missing a lot.

>>11339631
From the sound of it, there's also a lot of missing postgame content for the same reason. And he rebalanced some of the characters already, so he might do that again, since some seem insanely unbalanced.

>>11339636
The game does get easier as go progress.

The biggest hurdle is Komachi, its (relatively) smooth sailing from there on aside from a handful of bullshit encounters. I'm guessing thats what he's trying to balance it for, although the changes have mostly been buffing some of the slightly weaker characters.

>>11339636
I just hate how characters have no unique skills

Okuu for one

>>11339659
She already has two boosts for each turn she's out AND element piercing.
Crow too op, pls nerf.

>>11339636
Then I am very glad I have been holding out on playing it. Should improve drastically for the next little while.

Why is Reimu, Keine and Rinno so useless?

>>11339678
Keine is pretty useful, I never got Ran during the main game so I used her as my buffer the whole way through. She's pretty durable if built for it and with Enhancer her buffs are not only buffing for 45% assuming you max them out, but they're also healing your party.

>>11339668
UNIQUE skills

I need waifus to feel speshul

>>11339659
>>11339695
That's one thing I like about Byakuren, all her skills are unique to her outside of the obligatory ones that everyone has.

English patch when ?

>>11339705

Byakuren's skills may be "unique", in that no one else in the game gets them, but they're really fucking boring. 20% stat buff every turn? Zzzzzz

>>11339326
I vote Nitori. Double stat gains from equipment is simply beautiful.
By the way, I think I'll give my Aya the Healer subclass. Recovering everyone's HP by 10% every time she gets a turn, with that amazing speed, seems too good to ignore.

>>11339881
Shit, I never thought about that. Hmmm.

>>11339881
>Double stat gains from equipment is simply beautiful.
Just like in the first game, however, stat gains from equipment becomes less and less effective %-wise with level ups and library upgrades.

Momoji being the first tank and all. How does she fare the more I progress? I kinda like her but there's more than her as Tanky characters right?

I think Mokou was one.

I come to these threads just for that artstyle

>>11339974
Momiji has ridiculously high DEF, meaning she'll take 0 damage from nearly everything.

Komachi has regeneration and at least double the HP of anybody else, but low defense. She'll take some high numbers, but she's got more than enough HP to not care.

Mokou is kind of in-between, with immunity to auto-death effects and generally good resists all around aside from cold.

I've heard people stacking the shit out of Aya's evasion, and using that as a "tank", hoping everything misses her but that seems kind of like a bad idea.

Also hear Tenshi is a really good tank, but I don't have her.

>>11339992
>but that seems kind of like a bad idea
Evasion tanks can be ridiculously good, and they are very light on resources.

>>11340004
Yeah but one hit and you're done, I try to avoid relying on RNG too much. Japanese have this stupid obsession with bosses that spam party-wide instant death effects.

>>11339992
If she's anywhere near what she was in LoT she's gonna be a fucking wall. Checking wiki:
>DEF higher than Momiji and equal MND
>+100% to both DEF/MND self spell and inflicts PAR/heavy
>When Tenshi takes a turn, if she is affected by an ailment or a stat down effect, she will restore 5% HP to all members on the front line.
>If Tenshi is on the left most position on the front line and perform a "Form Change", every member on the front line will have their Defense and Mind increased.
She is the wall incarnate. Unless there are piercing spells, in that case pic related.

>>11340013
Wow. Just wow.

What attack stat does Cirno use?

Both her ATK and MAG increase the same.

>>11339678
Reimu is actually pretty damn powerful. Her defensive buff is the best alongside Yukari (who you don't get until way, way later); and she packs the best team heal in the entire game.

>>11340013
And she has the lowest health gains for a tank, paired with only moderate resistances and affinities.

This isn't to say she's bad, but she's got one glaring weakness. If you ever get hit by a defense/mind piercing attack - she dies.

>>11340060
>Unless there are piercing spells
But yeah. She has enough defenses with buffs to get 0 dmg from everything except those.

About the consumables wherre you use them in Hakuren shrine...

Are the effects permanent or just 1-time bonus?

Is it only me but the parameter upgrades in Magic library too good to be true? A few gold to upgrade things? Is there any drawbacks? Diminishing return? cap? i feel kinda worried spamming a bit HP into Rumia.

>>11340088
Permanent with limited uses (10) per item per character

>>11340095
Nope, it just gets more and more expensive.

>>11340100
You mean one item can be used 10 times on a character ?

or

maximum of 10 items per character?

leaning on the second one

Anything I can do against that 8 headed lamprey? Just grind, or is there some strategy to it?

That fucking bite takes off 500-700 health from Komachi, and instakills pretty much everybody. Even Minoriko can't keep up with healing her at 400~ per heal.

>>11340209
debuff attack and speed with Kansen
buff defense on a character with actual defensive stats (Youmu, Wriggle, or Momiji are your choices that early, I believe)
Watch as the 500-700 damage turns into 60-100. Laugh as her eight attack spam turns into all 0's.

>>11340215
That's the kraken, not the lamprey.
>>11340209
All you got to do is debuff it hard. Make it easier if you have Kaguya with Buddha's Stone Bowl to debuff it and buff herself. It can also be poisoned. Just give Komachi a cold-resist item to lower the damage on her and pray to the RNG gods that the lamprey doesn't hit anyone important

>>11340223
I went with Mokou to slap that red gemstone's shit, and because I like her better anyway.

So i'm fighting the wrong monster to recruit Mystia? Fuck, either way I want to take this fucker down. I got so close then Komachi finally gave out and it was downhill from there. The poison wore off and I couldn't get another poison stuck to it.

>>11340215
It does even more damage to Momiji, like 1400 and she has at least 6x more defense than Komachi.

Wow Rumias single target nuke is hilariously good. I dont even know what those lasers has to do with her eh...lore.

>>11340227
Try putting a cold-resist sub-equpment on Momiji. Should be around 150 or higher.

>>11340231
Yeah its pretty fucking good and low-cost.

>>11340234
Oh, the bite is cold element? I was stacking physical. Interesting, thanks.

>>11340231
It's great cost wise. It's my go-to spam attack after sparking with Marisa.

Why isn't my speed raising up even though I leveled it?

>>11340324
It raises by 2% but subtracting the 100. It just raises veery slowly (the fractions below the comma are cut-off). Don't worry though, the game keeps track.

>>11340324
If you're talking about at Patchy's, it takes around 6-8 points for the speed stat to increase by 1.

It sounds like shit, but speed can mean the difference between a last-second formation switch or party wipe.

>>11340335
>>11340337
Sounds troublesome, I'll keep spamming Magic on Rumia then.

Just got 1000+ money for some achievement and spent it all to rank up Rumia's magic to lvl 49 in Library.

Oh boy what have I done.

>>11340389
Enjoy your strong-ass rumia.

Also you get a huge money bonus at 3/10/30 hours of game time. (3k/10k/30k)

Leave your game on overnight.

>>11340227
because its cold elemental. Komachi has slight cold resistance, while momiji is weak to it (I think, cant check atm)

>>11340389
Leave your game on overnight for more money


But about these:
What should I even do with these?

>>11340501
Should be able to stack Komachi up to almost like 300 Cold Resistance, and if you invested in early Regeneration skill, she should be more or less able to with minimal effort.

Then it just comes down to being lucky enough in that it doesn't bite anyone else, but they will still very much die.

It's weak to Nature and Mystic if I recall correctly, so Marisa and Kasen should be your go-to. If this is the F5 one and you have Kaguya, use her Stone Bowl.

>>11340597
My god I butchered this post.

Should be able to stack Komachi up to almost like 300 Cold Resistance, and if you invested into her Regeneration skill early, she should be more or less able to survive alone fairly well.

Then it just comes down to being lucky enough in that it doesn't bite anyone else, as they will still very much die.

It's weak to Nature and Mystic if I recall correctly, so Marisa and Kasen should be your go-to. If this is the F5 one and you have Kaguya, use her Stone Bowl which has the added bonus of debuffing it, which it is weak too.

>>11340209
Fuck yes, I finally did it.

I stacked a bunch of cold resist on Komachi, that brought the damage down to 300, which was just enough to keep her alive. Fucker bit Aya down instantly so I thought I was gonna be fucked without speed buffs but Komachi's attacks inflicted Terror each hit, so I switched in Parsee and did several fucking amazing 4,000 damage hits with her last card.

Holy fuck, Parsee. I think I just lucked out on this battle.

>>11340689
There's another lamprey on the 5th floor but at a higher level. Try to beat that

And I still can't beat Sakuya and Remilia

Mokou superior, and doesn't she come with Reisen?

Kaguya is too cute to pass up. Sorry Mokou
Now if only desire to rest was working, fucking bugged NEET

>>11340060
>Paired with only moderate resistances and affinities
>Straight 40s across the board for resistances, only affinities below 100 are Mystic and Dark, which are 75

What? Tenshi is hella fine in those departments, especially considering the only status effect resistance that really matters lategame for Tenshi is instant death.

The issue with using Tenshi in this game isn't even the prevalence of her comparitively low HP growth, or piercing attacks, or instant death attacks. All that can be worked around. The issue is attacks that hit you, do zero damage, and then half the HP of your whole party anyways, and honestly no tank except Komachi and maybe off-tank Hina, sitting on tens of thousands of HP, have a way to deal with that

Looks like I can get something around 300 money per battle on 8F, thanks to both Komachi and Rinnosuke having their money skills maxed and Nazrin beating everything with Gold Rush.
...Yeah I guess it's going to take a while before I get Suika. And everyone will end up overleveled as well.

>>11340705

Sakuya is highly affected by poison, so if you can get a first turn where your party isn't getting AOE'd or Gungnir'd to death and can land poison on her then you should be able to burn her down quite well.
Sakuya is also weak to lightning and can be paralyzed (to stall/prevent her from using Private Square) so Kasen can hit her pretty well.
For Remi just tank and burn her down, literally since she's weak to Fire. Only attack of her's you really have to worry about is Gungnir since it can one-shot just about anybody if she buffs up. Debuffs work really well on Remi though, so try to land some.

I barely won the battle with my last remaining characters. Chen and Hina were my power players against Remi.

>>11340060
>>11340926

I hear theres stuff like Djnn Storm except on HP this time around so idunno

Dedicated Tanks/Walls fall off the map lategame supposedly because of this shit.

>>11339326
Sakuya, Extra Attack + the rest of her toolkit means she's only limited by what subclass you stick her in.

honorable mentions to Aya/Yukari for generally stupid good support

Are Tomes of Enlightenment farmable anywhere?

>>11340964
Thanks! I usually rely on Alice to do the paralyzing but Kasen is much better in doing it. Also got 2 turns of poison in before Wriggle and Satori died. After that, Yuugi mows down everyone and got even stronger due to Last Fortress even denying Sakuya Private Square

>>11340926
Paralysis, Poison, Shock, Instant Death, Silence, and to a lesser extent Terror aren't counter-productive to the tanking?

Straight 40s on statuses isn't anything special. But it's not bad either.

Likewise her Affinities amazing, but not bad either. She's Neutral to a lot of elements which is 'ok', weak to 2, and strong against 3.

>>11341244
>to tanking?
>Likewise her Affinities aren't amazing

God, what is wrong with me today.

>>11341244

Paralyse, Shock, Silence, and Terror have zero impact on her ability to take damage, which is what she's there for. Neither does Poison technically, but the HP damage might be a bit scary. She can also do the switching job that I generally leave to offtanks while under affect of most of those status effects as well.
Straight 40s on statuses is pretty good for a base, honestly, especially when the only status effects that really hinder Tenshi's ability to do her job are Death and Debuffs.

Her affinities are very easy to work with for a tank, and having lots of base 100s is a headache avoided. It's very frustrating working with <100 values on affinities for characters while also trying to itemize for good stat distributions.

The only other character who's on the same playing field really is Komachi and I'm not going to say Tenshi's better than Komachi, but they both fall to the same crap in this game (HP reduction attacks that bypass everything in the game anyways), but to say that Tenshi's a subpar or average tank in this game is really questionable, considering the only other "tanks everything in the game" characters are Komachi, Remilia, and possibly Hina. Every other durable character is polarized, to my knowledge.

>>11340504

Use them on the character they would help the most. I would have thought that was obvious, but I guess not

>>11340504
I believe you should translate what they do and write about them on the wiki

So how much of a requirement is it for me to play the first Touhou Labyrinth before this one? Or is it safe to skip the first one?

>>11342571
Absolutely no reason to, unless you want to.

Its almost the same game with better character art and different stats for some of the characters. If you beat 2 and want more you can always play 1 and get more of the same.

>>11342581

So essentially its an enhanced remake? Oh great then, thanks~

>>11342618
Well the dungeons and everything are different, but the gameplay is essentially the same.

Basically think of this like Super Mario World compared to Super Mario Bros 3.

I'm getting real sick of your shit, map designer.

>>11342701
Heh, just wait for the next one.

How Should I level Aya?

Spam all on Agility and attack?

>>11342713
Pretty much.
Equip her with as many sharp bones as possible for subs, those increase her evasion even more.

like 1/10 attacks hit her, and she does a pretty fair amount of normal melee damage as well whenever she's got nothing else to do that turn.

>>11342713
Gensokyo's fastest is absolutely broken for boss or FOE encounters, getting two of her speed buffs before anyone else even gets a turn can really set you up for success.

>>11342701
I have a serious case of OCD and would explore every nook and cranny of the map even though I know there's nothing there

>>11342739
I did that on every floor but 14 and 16. 14 was because I couldn't figure out how to get the temperature low enough for one of the warps, and 16 was because I can't be bothered to deal with teleporter mazes.

Have any of the nerdmasters taken up translating this game yet?

>>11342764
Theres a guy translating the menus and some of the items, but I dunno how far he plans to take it. I hope he uses a thinner font somehow because all the text keeps falling off the other side of the screen.

how can i get Minoriko to join me?
also i already cleared 3rd stage but i can't find Wriggle event anywhere!

>>11342830
You have to collect 3 leaves of something tree, just fight the plant looking enemies on floor three for a while and check back on her hat.

>>11342862
still no luck...

Is it even possible to collect 12 Stones of Awakening in the game? I explored everything and only have 10 with me...

Okay, is there some sort of music room in the game?

>>11343428
http://www.mediafire.com/download/bub7p7z123rp9st/

>>11341345
Rinnosuke, Momiji, Komachi, Mokou, Wriggle, Meiling, Remilia, Yukari, and Tenshi. You can add more I suppose, but these are really the cream of the crop for various reasons.

Quite literally all of these characters are capable of tanking pretty well. Though like every other tank, you'll have to itemize to remove the affinity weakness that all of them possess in one way, shape, or form.

But honestly, Tenshi is just average. Because Tenshi is best used as a niche pick - just like every other tank (though some more so than others). Good general characters are one where they work in all comps, whether it's because they synergize with pretty much everything or are so damn powerful that the lack of synergy is made up for in brute force.

>>11342945
3x Seeds of the Great Tree

You can pick some up on floor 3, or buy them from Nitori I think. I don't know which item it is though if you can.

Wow. Kasen is amazing.

Debuffs and self buff.

And her first spell...not to mention her Attack growth.

>>11343496
she doesn't gave them..
do i need her to start wriggle event?
i want mokou so bad

When do FOEs respawn? Is it time based?

So the game keeps giving me this error each time I try to run it. The game loads via daemon tools, and the main menu appears normally, but when I hit new game, it crashes. Any idea?

>>11343660
>http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Labyrinth_of_Touhou_2/Characters/Characters_2#Minoriko_Aki

I dunno what else to tell you man.

>>11343663
I heard it was something like every 15 or so times you re-enter the dungeon. Not the particular floor, just the dungeon itself. I could be wrong/off by a few numbers.

>>11343669
Just tried exiting and reentering a bunch of times. That did the trick. About 15 seems to be right.

Thanks.

>>11343669
thank you!
but now i can't figure how to get Wriggle.

>>11343531
too bad she has reimu syndrome where her passives are situational at best

>>11344242
Shit I can't get rid of Reimu from my reserve list because of that 66% chance to regain 1mp after a battle.

Every little bit helps when walking around.

>>11344242
Shock and Silence passives are pretty good all the time, though. Guts isn't bad either.

Ok. So where do I get mystic-resisting items?
I currently have none of them and the shield avatar just rapes my party. Also don't have the materials to craft them

>>11344433
Usually you can kill them before they kill you with any from Kags or Marisa.

>>11344440
Just another dumb question. What do the shield and magic avatars throw at me? Physical or magic based attacks?

>>11343487

I can give you Mokou and Wriggle, since I genuinely forgot about them. Maybe Rinnosuke too but somehow using him in general for my active party doesn't seem like a good idea, period. I don't think I can give you any other ones though. Momizi's polarized to Defense tanking and while Yukari can be built as a tank, she's best built just stacking speed and breaking the whole game. Meiling's relegated to offtank spot because of her skills.

I don't quite understand how Tenshi is best as a niche pick, unless you're specifically talking about her dispel effect, which is indeed niche. Honestly though, if we're talking about "good general characters", then no tank is a good general character because they don't contribute to murdering everything on the floor in one turn anyways. The only exception to this is Yukari, and only if she's not built to be a tank anyways.

Of course I could just be speaking out of my ass, but since the game itself wasn't that difficult to get through, I wasn't forced to give some of these characters we talk about a solid chance.

How the hell do you stop Tenshit from spamming Violent Motherland? She seemed to stop spamming it when Meiling was the only one left after Komachi died in the active slot. Can't seem to find a way to switch in either a healer to heal my tanks or switch in a damage dealer (Suika or Kaguya)

>>11344584
She's niche in that she has to actively use some of her turns to maintain her buff in order to be at full power, but there are cases where swapping is more important. So it's kind of a lesser of two evils ordeal. She has her weakness where anything that pieces defense/mind is quite good at hurting/killing her. And yes her dispel effect is only really applicable for a few boss fights.

As a good general tank I'd consider someone like Rinnosuke as one. He's got a good amount of active and passive support, and is fairly durable all-around. Granted he doesn't do any damage. Otherwise a jack-of-all-trades without any glaring weaknesses.

Even though this might be true, it doesn't make him the perfect pick in all situations, a lot of more tailored comps can sometimes make better use of other characters, like the Komachi+Eirin combo. But like I said, it really just comes down to preference and team comp which may very well benefit from a more niche tank.

>>11345467
Get lucky, that is really all there is to that fight.

>>11345512
Yeah. I got lucky all right managed to beat her but the strange thing is that this time, she didn't use Violent Motherland at all.

How to get wriggle....
i'm at floor 5 and i can't start the event

kaguya

>>11345741

Don't be afraid to use the wiki bro.

http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Labyrinth_of_Touhou_2/Characters/Characters_3

My toaster can't run this game at 60 fps. I can't believe that.

>>11345860
Mine does if I plug it to the charger.
Have you ever been to 4-6F?
Also, have you tried the disabling effects option in menu?

>>11345947
Battles only run at 30 fps even with effects turned down. I'm not playing it that way. I'll wait until i buy a better toaster.

>>11345989
You poor paleotronic user.

Does this game run on a Raspberry Pi computer

do any 2hu games run on a pi

>>11346219
i dont know, but im sure my dik will run in ur as.

Should i focus on magic only with Okuu or also speed?

>>11346219
No. Wine only runs on x86-compatibles, Raspis are ARM. I can't imagine them being powerful enough for PC-98 emulators, if one even exists.

For bullet hells in general, see if anything by Kenta Cho is available.

>>11346219
My 2hu clone runs on the Raspberry Pi computer.

I've been out of touch for a while and didn't even realize this was released.
I loved the first game and it seems like the second game is pretty similar.

Are the reappearing characters the same as they were in the firsst game? Like, is Komachi still that massive HP monster with shit in all other stats or are the characters changed?
Also is the balance a bit better than in the first game or are some characters still ridiculously overpowered compared to some other ones? I remember Nitori's Megawatt Gun being almost gamebreaking in the first game.

How the hell do you activate this? I've been trying for 3 hours

On paper Kasen looks like a slightly better Remilia, though some of Remilia's skills seem really good and Gungnir seems to have a much better formula than in the first game. Are Last Fortress and Majesty as good as they sound and do they make Remi able to compete with Kasen?

Or is it just a matter of Kasen being too good?

>>11346567
Kasen is just too good. Remi might get buffed in a future update, or Kasen nerfed, but at the moment there's no real reason to use Remi over Kasen. Unless you want to, of course.

>>11346629
Is there one of these for 16-18F?

>>11346629
I'm forever in debt to you

>>11346673
Remi isn't exactly bad though, or is she?
Why not use both?

>>11346725
Remi isn't bad. Kasen's just too good.

It's a bloody single-player game, don't nerf things.

Just buff the less-loved ones.

>>11347229
The game should still try to challenge you.

do 2hus that went back to gensokyo win experience?

>>11347528
Assuming it hasn't changed since the original game:
Everyone in your party gets 100%
People not yet recruited gain 90%
People in Gensokyo and not in your party gain 80%.

Pretty sure those are the modifiers. Not-recruited is what I'm least sure on. People sent back to Gensokyo would qualify for the 80% exp.

>>11347546
Everyone gets 100% experience.

no taohus, I'm sad.

Haaaaa

Had to poison a boss down to 1 HP just so Nazrin could finish it off with the pendulum's doing 2 damage for double drop rate. That was tense.

>>11347551
really?
I can overextend my 2hus then, sweet

>>11347600
I wish seiga was here so I could go through the laberynth

I wish people stopped with the blue eyed marisa bullshit in fangames.

>>11347633
It was a nice change. I didn't like how characters started to fall behind in the first game unless I used them. Now everyone, even characters that haven't been recruited yet start with and gain the same amount of experience as anyone else. The only way a character will have more experience than another is by taking those exp passives and fighting in the main party or by using exp+ main equipment.

>>11347694
I wish more RPGs adopted this EXP system.

What unlocks more things that can be crafted at Nitori's workshop? Also are there any main equips available to be crafted at the moment?

NEET got nerfed so badly

>>11347600
I bet they will be in the plus disk/expansion that will probably be released.

Is it just me or is this game quite a lot easier than the first one?

I remember LoT1 often being pretty unforgiving but so far I haven't been running into big trouble in LoT2.

How to get suika?

>>11349619
Get money.

>>11349635
how to get sake?

>>11349641
Buy sake. Using money.

>>11349607

Thats what I thought, maybe because..Evasion actually works now, or maybe because they added some more tips, et cetera

Well, if anything, I did hear that people complain that the first one was grind-heavy

>>11350012
There's multiple issues with the difficulty being too low.
The one that stood out the most to me however was the fact that a sufficiently upgraded character is able to virtually solo almost all the bosses in the game, only getting caught up in certain ones that don't gel well with them.
I'm speaking from experience where a sufficiently upgraded Kasen managed to nearly single-handedly win half the boss fights in the game while still under the challenge level by ~5 levels each time. Hell, she even oneshot Alice, and the final boss was a joke where I was able to completely ignore my team members because the only attack it had that did anything to Kasen was when it did damage that ignored defenses.

>>11350025
Is she truly that good? I don't want to play a game where a character is that brokenly good.

Also because I can't read Japanese hehah.

>>11350039
I'm not sure if she's that good or if it's just the game being far easier than it should be. That's one reason why I really want NG+ to arrive sooner, I'd like to go through the game again without using Kasen, yet I only like using characters I like, so I would end up needing to wait ages to actually have a team I'd like playing with if I went through normally.
Come NG+ I'll probably do something like Komachi/Byakuren/Rin with some buffer filling in the missing slot as my main party, I'm interested in how well they'd work together.

The more I hear about LoT2 the less I want to play it.

I loved LoT too.

>>11350025
I mean, I know this is a very silly thing to say, but don't you think you may have taken the fun out of it by using the library in such a way? Perhaps the developers didn't intend for a player to just pump one and only one character like that.

How you play video games is up to you, I'm just thinking your conclusions about this particular game may be a little bit skewed.

>>11350039
She has the "Guts" skill which will help her survive with only 1 HP for the cost of 10TP at a 50% chance. She also has "To increase one's fighting spirit" which reduces damage taken while increasing her damage dealt the longer she stays in the active party in a battle

>>11350089
Its not as bad as everybody is making it sound.

You don't even have to use Kasen. Hell, I find Wriggle and Parsee more useful against bosses than Kasen.

>>11350233
It's not just balance issues, though they do seem pretty severe.

There's apparently a lot of animations and things like that missing since it was rushed out for Comiket.

I'm sure it'll be fixed eventually, but right now it sounds disappointing.

>>11350240
Yeah but those are getting added back in with patches, that is kind of annoying I will admit.

Image cleaner, have you made any progress with the graphics?

As far as folks wanting to read some of the stuff in English goes, there's a promising ongoing effort at Shrinemaiden.

As for Kasen, yeah she's good but if you don't like her being that good then just don't use her? Reimu can honestly carry a party across the game, as can Wriggle since poison apparently is LoT2's way of making bosses a cinch.

>>11350337
Thankfully at least one of the people involved in the translation posts here too.

And it's not about Kasen making the game too easy, it's that there are too many things that make everything too easy, Kasen just happens to be the biggest offender.

How's the translation project?
I found one of these in the Shrinemaiden Forums
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8869/i22e.png
Any patch for this yet?
I only have the menu patch.

>>11350408
There's a semi-translated img.dxa you can use.

Someone on /jp/ offered to do a much better job of cleaning the images. The original guy honestly didn't even try with some of the (admittedly difficult) images and just typeset outside the graphic. I'm still yet to hear back from him though.

>>11350408
Honestly i'd rather just have item names translated, the rest isn't really a big deal, aside from the requirements to pass stone blocks.

Question about BP.
Do I need to have the character on the front lines to gain any, or can I just keep them in the active party?

>>11350590
2 if the character is on the front line. 1 if they're in reserve.

>>11350417

Someone from the previous thread posted a spreadsheet with almost all of the items translated.

http://www.mediafire.com/view/71t4ugmcybhio66/Items.xlsx

Anyone know in which order the sub classes are? Tried making Keine an Enhancer, but it didn't seem to work properly since she gained no new abilities and I can't make out the skills.

>>11350808
Here you go. You dont get new class abilities til you spend skill points on em.
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Labyrinth_of_Touhou_2/Subclasses

what does suwako need aside from attack?

This game lags the shit out of my old agp 128mb videocard. Is there any way to lower the graphics even after turning all the effects off?
PS: I already know my videocard/computer is shit and I should get a new one.

Fuck fuck fuck.. I'm getting way too many 2hus in my party, I don't know who to keep on my active party because I love them all.

>>11350881
If you've disabled both shader effects, thats all you can do. I feel your pain, it'll only get worse on floor 4-6. Floor 7 is less laggy than all the previous ones luckily.

>>11350851
Defense maybe? Depends on how you want to use her.

>>11350917
but her defense and mind are pretty bad...
speed is decent though

>>11350946
Her 4-cost skill "Ability to Create Earth" buffs her damage like crazy (+36% at max) if she's in the danger zone on the left.

Its a risky but probably rewarding move, if you do something like use whoever your main tank is to swap with Suwako, Aya to give her a free turn and then swap her back with your main tank.

>>11350949
So should i only focus on attack?
Thank you!

>>11350958
You could try going pure attack and relying on Aya, or doing Attack/Defense and hoping you can take a hit before you switch out, or Attack/Speed and hope you get the turn first.

The first is probably the safest idea, but that requires another character on the front line aside from your tank and suwako. Aya's my second slot all the time so that's how i'd do it anyway.

For some reason, especially on my Rumia whenever I level up or go to the Library, her MIND stat decreases. Dunno if there was an item that did that to her, or if there's some sort of equipment issue here. Anybody have any idea?

>>11351157
Are you using version 1.0?

There was a mechanic that had unspent skill points increase some stats that got fixed in 1.130

>>11351172
Version 1.130 at the moment.

>>11351157
I dunno why that glitch is there, but if you check, stats never actually decrease like that when they say they will.

>>11351213
Speaking about glitches, the reset screen always says you'll lose a few levels, but it never does that.

>>11351223
Thats their "effective level" I think.

Since you don't have the bonus stats, they're about as weak as the level its showing.

I sure as hell hope the translation effort doesnt end like the Devil of Decline one.

>>11350949
If you built her with a good amount of evasion, she could EVA tank too in the left most slot. It's risky, but she'd essentially be a buffed nuke.

Mega upload doesn't seem to be working for me. When I mount and play it, it gives me a "debug assertion failed" error. Is there something I'm doing wrong.

>>11351467

This game doesn't need a translation patch. I'm at floor 13 and haven't run into any problems the wiki couldn't help me with.

>>11352394
Extract all the files from the .iso into it's own folder. Then run the executable.

>>11352408
it's an mdx though

>>11352404
It doesn't need a patch but it sure as hell is much easier to play a game without having to tab to the Wiki every few minutes.

I extracted and patched it but now when I try running it a black screen pops up and then it closes. My charagraphs folder is also empty.

>>11352604
Same thing happened to me at first till I moved it in Local Disk C

So I'm having an issue because I feel like all my characters barely do any damage and still die instantly fast. I'm usually at the challenge level for the area. Right now I'm trying to beat Alice and the Ent but both are ridiculously annoying. Alice's physicals can wipe out everyone even after buffs and the Ent just keeps spamming its heal faster than I can damage it.
Also the wiki mentions vines in the Alice fight but I've never seen those? She just summons dolls even at low health.

>>11340231
Moonlight Ray, EoSD Hard and Lunatic laser spellcard that she uses as a midboss.

>losing hardcore to a boss up to getting kasen when i didnt lose once in the game before it
>go check guide on wiki
>"use komachi else u fucked"

So if I don't want to use her as a tank I'm screwed for the rest of the game?

I'm not using kasen either.

>>11353172
Nevermind, everyone died then Marisa dodged 10 attacks in a row to get out a few more Asteroid Belts. And I managed to get a ton of slow and poison to stick with Cirno and Wriggle whereas beforehand they'd all be resisted. Weird luck I guess.

>>11353226
The floor and boss could help, but I'm sure you can use someone other than Komachi. The thing is just that Komachi's so useful all the time. The debuffs, the instant death in random battles, her counterattack being so good.
If you want, you can always build up Momiji, Keine or Wriggle as physical tanks while shoring up their MND with items and buffs.
Speaking of MND, is it just me or does Parsee have ridiculous Mind growth? She had more than a lot of my party members where I actually invested points in the stat, it's weird.
Also, how does Small Box and Large Box actually work? The wiki just says it's a physical nuke but there's gotta be more. It seems to do less against debuffed enemies and more against buffed ones?

>Wriggle is the master of poison
>Yamame nowhere in sight

>>11353278
>is it just me or does Parsee have ridiculous Mind growth?
Yeah its pretty fucking impressive.

> It seems to do less against debuffed enemies and more against buffed ones?
I think that has something to do with Parsee's skill that does more damage the more buffs/debuffs that are on the field. Or it could just be a hidden property of the skill, who knows.

What's the artist name? I love the artstyle in this

>>11353651
http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=eho_%28icbm%29

http://eho971.web.fc2.com/

Does BP reset once you activate an event? I'm trying to get the third scroll for Nazrin's but it still hasn't activated. Unless, I need to have Reimu and Marisa with BP as well, but the wiki doesn't say anything of such. You would think going in and out of a dungeon more than ten times would already activate it if it doesn't reset. It feel like BP resets once you activate one of the events though.

>Reisen's 1MP full party poison bomb.
>Reimu restores that 1MP immediately after battle.
OH MY GOD, THIS RABBIT.

Does BP reset once you see one of the events for said characters? I've been going around fighting with Nazrin more than ten times and the event has not activated yet. Unless you need Marisa and Reimu for the third scroll event too, the BP resetted or something.

how do foe's respawn? how long does it take?

>>11354150
see >>11343669

>>11354150
13 times i think

>>11354161
Thanks, I just wanted to fight some of them again for fun

Ok. I seem to be stuck on the 3 balls boss battle on F18. Anyone have a good strategy against them?

>>11354470
The two in back are extremely weak to poison, the front one is extremely weak to physical. Kill the front one first or it revives the others when both die (not sure if the back ones can revive).

I mainly used Komachi to tank and Wriggle to whittle the back two down, then had Yuugi and Orin + Chen take out the front one. This is probably the hardest fight in the game so far.

Can you get any Eienteis in this on your team?

>>11354668
Yes, except for Tewi. Reisen is fucking stronk holy shit.

>>11354640
Do they inflict status ailments to my party like Death? Also, what do their attacks target? Defense or mind?

>>11354673
Don't forget Kaguya, and Eirin's super hp stacking heal. One could say that the whole of Eientei is broken. Then again, a lot of things in this game are broken. The damage formula and bar use on Shikigami Ran+ is obscene, for example.

>>11355198
I got Mokou first, so I ended up getting Reisen early.

Kaguya would have probably been more useful early on though. "People of the Moon" is pretty fucking OP, but it sucks when it activates on random shit battles.

so there's people that actually use 2hus because they ar good and not because they like them?
I pity them

>>11355284
Even if my favorite ended up terrible, I would've used her regardless. However, she's pretty damn good so I'm happy.

>>11355284
My favorite isn't playable so why would I even bother

Best character makes an appearance which makes this my new favorite the best fangame. Her mind tanking is also really insane.

I don't know what's wrong with me but I'm 2 floors ahead of this Ent FOE and I still can't beat it (it's on Floor 6). I've beaten every other boss in the area so this is really confusing. That spammable heal just makes no sense. Doing 50000 damage in 5 turns only to have it all cancelled in 2 is just obnoxious. Debuffs rarely stick, Heavy and Paralysis don't work often either, and putting in fragile but spammable casters usually ends up with it immediately using that physical line nuke for over 1000 damage on everyone.
Help?

>>11355376
Get Yuugi then 3 step him to death.

>>11355376
I used a combination of Komachi, Aya, Hina, and Parsee.

Komachi uses her 3rd card and hope Terror gets inflicted, Hina debuffs fucking everybody, and Parsee uses her last card that only hits enemies affected by Terror and gets a huge damage boost from everybody being debuffed and hit for about 18k damage.

Swapped between Aya and Kogasa once everybody's speed was raised high enough.

>>11355284

I like all of them.

How exactly are we supposed to increase a 2hus MP pool besides leveling?

And is subclassing limited in any way? Im guessing it's limited by the amount of jewels you have but are the actual classes limited to X amount? Can jewels be farmed later on and whats the difference between them?

>>11355284
My favorite is Kasen and I'm using her.

And luckily she's extremely powerful. Howe power/attack growth gain is hilariouslly good. Almost doubling Rumia's magic at the same level of library.

As expected of the 4 divas.

Fucking hell! This is the most annoying fight ever. I'm glad it's finally over

>>11355909
Why is Yuugi your tank?

>>11355916
No she isn't. I have Mokou, Komachi, and Tenshi as my tanks and Yuugi, Nitori, and Suika as my damage dealers. I needed as many damage dealers on the field due to the fact that I really need to kill the Tank orb before healer orb heals it. The gamble cost me Nitori though but it was enough to kill the tank orb.

Tentative tier list (no particular order)
S tier:
Komachi
Marisa
Kaguya


A tier
Reimu
Keine
Eiki
Kasen
Iku
Patchouli
Aya
Meiling
Tenshi
Kanako
Minoriko

B tier
Momiji
Yuyuko
Ran
Mokou
Mystia
Nitori
Suika
Yuugi
Remilia
Alice
Sakuya
Sanae

C tier
Cirno
Suwako
Parsee
Nazrin
Wriggle
Kogasa


I wish he was godlike like the first game instead of irredeemable shit tier:
Rinnosuke

>>11357351
Forgot to put eirin in S and Rumia in B

>>11357351
>C:
>Parsee
>Wriggle

Nigga what.

And Nazrin, while shit otherwise, is at least useful for drop rate boosting. Need to add a "Good gimmick tier"

>>11357356
Rumia is at least... well yeah I guess B, the only thing she has going for her is a cheap nuke.

>>11357368
Wriggle falls off a cliff lategame, and while parsee is a good mind tank, so is Patchouli, and Patchy does more damage and is not mono element.

>>11357397
Parsee's mind is good, but its more about her single target strike. She can achieve insane damage in the right setup but that requires the enemy to be inflicted with Terror status which would probably put her in "Useful gimmick tier".

Also do you have Toxicologist set up on Wriggle? Because that really kicks it into high gear.

>>11357351
No Rin?
Also what about Flan, Yuuka and Byakuren?

>>11357408
I know I'm missing a bunch of characters, but that's cause I found them hard to place
Also I'm putting komachi in S+ instead of just S, she's far and away the best

Anyone have a tip on the floor 9 boss? I'm dealing no damage to this Tenshi lady

>>11357456
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Labyrinth_of_Touhou_2/Dungeons/9F

How does Yuugi's "Hoshiguma Dish" skill work?

>she gains increased Attack inversely proportional to the number of enemies.

>>11357783
Proportional: 5 enemies on field, (5*Arbitrary Number) attack power.
Inverse: 1 enemy on field, (4*Arbitrary Number) attack power.

Meaning she'll fuck up bosses hard.

>>11355909

Yeah. It's annoying. Youmu though, is wonderful for this fight. I used Slash Clearing of Six Senses twice to bring down the two in the back row and then her Slash of Present World to bring down the front one. Granted, I had a good amount of attack power though.

>Boss nearly immune to debuffs.
FUCK, MY ENTIRE PARTY COMPOSITION.

>>11357351
Speaking of tiers, what were the tiers for LoT1?

>>11357351
You forgot to place Youmu anywhere. Recommend A.
Also think that Yuyuko should be higher because her spirit spells can almost infinitely postpone an enemy's turn if given speed buffs or Aya buff.

>>11357918
I don't think there was ever a fully agreed upon tier listing for it, but I can tell you top 5 were rinnosuke, ran, kaguya, nitori, and eiki, with bottom 5 being wriggle, remilia, reisen, cirno, and okuu.

>>11357351
> Sakuya not in S

Extra Attack Enhancer Sakuya is the most busted thing I've seen in video games ever

So i've got another crystal, and I want to subclass Aya, but I can't decide which I want.

Monk: Goes faster, heals and buffs self, simple multi-attack for dealing with shitmobs.

Healer: I go fucking fast already, and i'll have taken at least two turns before anybody else, and healing the whole party for 4% HP every turn. Plus spot heal that goes off Aya's attack stat, and ailment curing which can also heal damage.

>>11358487
No need to make her a monk, as she already has a 100% chance to get a free turn every battle. I'm probably going to make my bird a healder simply because of that 10% heal per turn.

By the way, what's wrong with you, Tenshi. I beat you even though you decided to one-shot my overhealed Yuugi who was one second away from softening your face (thank you so much, Nitori). That's not an excuse to go batshit insane and get an ominous aura. Also fuck you too Byakuren and Eiki, Komachi was doing well in that spot!
...Now it's time to grind for Suika, I guess. At least I'm only 140k moneys away.

Does anyone know the BP requirement for each character involved in Yuka's recruitment?

Just how do I get Ran? The wiki says you need to find these BP events with Chen in every floor from 4 to 9, and apparently I have done so already (or at least I can't see any extra exclamation marks on the map), but there's no sign of her anywhere in 9F.

>>11353531
>No poison master Medicine

Is there any decent way of fighting Ran? Dear fuck she HURTS A FUCKING LOT, WIKI, YOU LIAR, even though I didn't read you before the fight. In the end I just put every +atk or +mag item I had on Nitori and Patchouli, buffed the kappa with Iku (didn't have enough to deal with Patch as well, so I had to bring Keine in for her), and just coldnuked every fucking thing with them. Dead shikigamis before Ran even got another turn! Also thank you Aya and Rinnosuke for making this possible! In the end Ran died before her shikigamis, what with being hit for 12k-18k every time. Also fuck you Keine they do NOT have 7500 HP.
Fucking fuck.

>>11357351
Neet got shit on so much compared to the first game

She was the best character in the first game, period

>>11359420
are you joking
Kaguya is still excellent in this game, she didn't even change all that much except for having her mind nerfed a bit (and for good reason, someone with that much obscene damage shouldn't have had her survivability) and losing the ability to give someone else a free turn + buff, but she still outdamages almost everyone with her mind ignoring passive and has lots of MP.

If anyone really fell from grace, it's Ran, holy shit did this new system fuck her over.

>>11358896
If you passed all the events, then a boss icon should appear south west from the floor entrance. You'll need to walk a bit more west to open up the path if you haven't already, and there is a teleporter there too.

>>11359117
I'm awed, this is the first time I've heard Rinnosuke did something in this game

>>11359724
She was the best character in the first game with all her piercing spells, great magic defenses and overall utility with stone bowl, such as passing a turn over to eiki or yuugi for physical damage if it does better for that particular boss

She's still fucking good, just not a must-have for sure now

>>11360018
>She was the best character in the first game
Debatable. You could make a case for Meiling or Ran being the best.
She's definitely S tier though.

>>11360048
Nitori
Best nuke in the game, hands down.

>>11359755
His tanking ability might not be as spectactular as Komachi's, but being able to switch anyone in at 9100 ATB is amazing. Not quite Chen's instant action, but still really good.

Also, speaking of tanks, I haven't tried Meiling yet.

I've been too lazy to actually level up all my characters.
I'm on floor 9 with about 5-6 bonus points laying around.

Battles are pretty tense but I kinda wish they were less frequent.

>>11360399
rumia has a passive that lowers encounter rates

>>11360531
Yeah i've got the maxed out. Do I have to keep her on the front line or can I just have her in reserve?

Either way it doesn't feel that much lower. Maybe i'll give her that Diva subclass once I unlock it.

Still looking for the guy that volunteered to clean the images.

>>11361131
I would love to help but all my image editing software is on my dead desktop.

I just booted up the game and for some reason it's really slow. Like, it's not going above 30 fps. I've been playing it for over 10 days at usually around 40 to 50 fps with no problems but now it's unbearably slow whether it's in battles, dungeons, dialogue or menu. Anyone have any idea what could possibly cause this? I even tried closing all my other applications and that did nothing.

This game is bugged as hell
Took this list from the Shrinemaiden Forums
-Normal attack says that it uses "the higher of ATK and MAG", but currently it only uses ATK>
-Nitori, Eirin and Ran's "Cooldown" skill isn't working at level 1, and at level 2 it's only 2x.
-Minoriko, Kaguya's "Desire to Rest" skill isn't working.
-"SDM Residents" effect does not increase agility.
-Reimu's Spell "Fantasy Seal" accounts for enemy DEF.
-Marisa's skill "Malice Cannon (Marisa)" isn't working.
-Momiji's skill "Tengu's Watchful Eye" doesn't seem to have any effect.
-Rumia's spell "Moonlight Ray" accounts for enemy DEF.
-Komachi's spell "Scythe that Choose the Dead" has DTH effect.
-Nitori's spell "Kappa's Illusionary Waterfall"'s DEF debuff aspect isn't working.
-Wriggle's spell "Poison Touch" isn't working.
-Kaguya's spell "Dragon's Necklace" ignores enemy MND.
-Nazrin's skill "Myouren Temple Personnel" isn't working.
-Rin's spell "Vengeful Cannibal Spirit" doesn't inflict Terror, but inflicts Shock
-Satori's spell "Brain Fingerprint" isn't 100% accurate.
-Yuugi's spell "Unremovable Shackles" doens't inflict silence
-Meiling's skill "Gatekeeper that wants to rest" doesn't work.
-Eirin's spell "Hourai Elixir" is Nature-elemental, and has additional stat-based healing aside from the 50% healing
-Sanae's spell "Moses's Miracle" has the same power as Night with Bright Guest Stars?
-Sanae's skill "Divine Protection of Moriya" isn't working, while "Last Wish" has its effect isntead
-Kanako's spell "Beautiful Spring like Suiga" does not debuff MAG
-Suwako's spell "Mishaguji-sama" does not debuff DEF
-Suwako's skill "Ability to create Earth" does not work.

-Flan's spells "Forbidden Fruit" and "Laevatain" takes the "MP penalty from teammates" from Flan as well.
-Flan's skill "Vampiric Wrath" does not work.
-Yuyuko's skill "Banquet of Regret and Sympathy" does not work.
-Yukari's spell "Shikigami Yakumo Ran+" accounts for enemy DEF.
-Byakuren's spell "Skanda's Leg" confusingly meshes up PHY and WND. It's actually WND elemental.
-Byakuren's spell "Sutra Scroll - Duplicating Chant" increases ATK
-Eiki's spell "Bar of the Ten Kings" description mentions both single-target and multi-target. It's actually multi-target.
-Protector's skill "Efficient Concentration" doesn't work.
-Protector's spell "Shield Defense" doesn't lower SPD.

-The Bee Shield's "Damage +12% when HP is full" actually activates when MP is full.

-When using options -> return to title screen from within the dungeon, the "consecutive battle bonus" is not correctly initialized (inb4 major glitch abuse)
-Why is Hina an aquatic creature?
-Why is Eiki a plant?
-A certain Magatami boss on later floors isn't Inorganic like its pals
-An enemy on 16F "闇光の経霊" doesn't register in the bestiary
-Achievement 16 doesn't get unlocked
-Achievement 28 gets unlocked at 20000 skill levels instead of 10000
-Equipments which affect HP/MP regeneration has its effect calculated again when levelling up/down. (For example: If someone equips an item that increase MP regen by 1, levelling up/and down will turn the bonus into 2.) This gets reset when changing equipments, changing skill points or distributing points.
-At about level 900, experience points from level down overflows.
-Sometimes character don't recover MP correctly in the back row.
-If you defeat 密林の凶蔦眼 (no idea what monster this is) while 凶蔦眼のツタ (no idea what monster this is either) is still alive, the latter using a certain skill that affects the former will crash the game. Similar scenario happens with 16F and 17F's FOE.

>>11362300
>>11362303
Le rushed for Comiket face

>>11361131
What needs to be cleaned?

Janitor is a piece of shit fucking loser.

He's delusional. No one in real life, or online, can stand his autistic bullshit. No one likes it. Do you hear that janitor? Everyone fucking hates you, it is not a select few people, it is the majority of this board. There is a huge problem with that and guess whose fault is? It's yours you fucking dipshit, stop blaming everyone else.

The mods even hate you. You think they like dealing with your 70 stupid ass ban requests everyday? No, they don't. Why don't you just fucking leave already.

Janitor is a piece of shit fucking loser.

He's delusional. No one in real life, or online, can stand his autistic bullshit. No one likes it. Do you hear that janitor? Everyone fucking hates you, it is not a select few people, it is the majority of this board. There is a huge problem with that and guess whose fault is? It's yours you fucking dipshit, stop blaming everyone else.

The mods even hate you. You think they like dealing with your 70 stupid ass ban requests everyday? No, they don't. Why don't you just fucking leave already.

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>>11362323
A bunch of stuff. I might as well post the full set.

http://www.mediafire.com/?m88gzf74519o7bi
All of the images with text (ignore the Enemy folder)

http://www.mediafire.com/?6780n2399ccay22
The current edited images. Use these for the translation, and you can just keep any that aren't terrible.

The stuff I have now isn't cleaned at all for difficult stuff (pic related), and it seems that other stuff, like the menu image, was done poorly.

There's a number of things I want to change with the translation if you are offering to do the typesetting too, but the second mediafire is still a good guide.

>>11362746
And this is the only image I actually got back from the other guy. Which is a shame, because he screencapped the folder and it looked like he made good progress. Then he disappeared.

Gonna wait for these 2 to come out

>>11363958
Whoa, I kind of like that new top on Renko.

ok so I got tired of dying to those birds that blow up your entire team, so I decided to grind for a bit. you guys think level 500 million suika can take them out?

>>11364328
>Look everybody, I discovered cheat engine!

>>11364328
running away or using aya sure is hard

>>11364534
I'm kinda amazed at how effective Aya>Patchouli>Royal Flare is. Depending on the floor, replace that with Asteroid Belt, Princess Undine, Djinn Gust, and so on.
It pretty much always wipes out everything on screen.
Still, grinding for Suika really sucks. I did like 36 battles in a row with all the money boosting characters in my party, making sure to gold rush as many enemies as Nazrin's MP allowed on floor 10. Barely got 2000 gold. Is there any items I can synthesize and resell effectively?

>>11364328
>dying
u suck n00b uninstall plzz,

>>11359724
Whats wrong with ran? I'm guessing that she can't spam her buffs as much due to more limited MP but aren't there any subclasses she can abuse?

Komachi is broken as hell. She literally solo'd half the bosses on floors 3-6 for me while the rest of my team died. Regeneration healed faster than bosses could damage her and she just autoattack+counter'd them to death.

Is it possible for me to ditch reimu+rumia in this game? I used reimu's heal a lot in the first game but I want to try not using any party heals this time.

>>11364543
I think the best way to grind would be killing the first two FOEs with Nazrin over and over again, you can get around 1k money per fight with both Komachi and Rinnosuke in your party. And then there's the achievement for killing 60 FOEs that gives you 80k money as well.

>>11364710

Make a team of four badasses who are all healers

10% healing per person per turn could be amusing

>>11340044
onegai

>>11364710
As someone who doesn't like having dedicated healers I just gave Keine the enhancer subclass so that her buffs were even more efficient for support. Of course I did have Minoriko for "Oh fuck, I need a large heal badly" moments, but she rarely saw any use, even in harder boss fights.

>>11358886
Anyone?

Also, we hit the bump limit. Think there's enough interest for another thread?

>>11365265
I find Eirin's (over)heal a lot better than most things Minoriko can do, unless I REALLY want to buff someone's defense.

>>11365336
At the very least, I know it's 200 for Utsuho and 140 for Minoriko by floor 8. Probably 50 or more for Wriggle on floor 3, and around 100 for Utsuho on floor 5.
By floor 10, it's 150 for Nitori and 300 for Minoriko.
Lastly, floor 13, requires 400 for Cirno and 200 for Minoriko.
Yeah, this boss is a complete damn pain to actually reach. Who'd even use Minoriko so much? Her Nature nukes aren't so great and she's situational in boss fights. At least I somewhat used Cirno during the underwater, jungle and desert sections, so it won't have to be so bad.

Also, I'm totally up for another thread, I still have a ton of stuff I haven't seen and want to discuss.

>>11365363
Jesus, that's a whole lot of BP for characters I don't use...How does the system work again? +1 BP for characters in active/reserve party during battle start, and another +1 to characters in the active party during the end of a battle? I'm tempted to use a cheat engine, but since it's easy to force an encounter I might just keep at it manually.

When I first got her, Minoriko's nature nuke did a ton of damage. Now she kind of scaled off and I only use her for bosses, but even then I sometimes prefer Sanae since Hina is part of my main squad. Sometimes I have to debuff my party for the greater good!

>>11365425
Nope.
It's only the 4 characters on the front row receiving BP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05IrL_PkZSo

>>11365488
Actually if a character does not start a battle on the front row but ends the battle on the front row will still receive 1 BP.
BP incremented once on battle start and end.

Alright for those of you sick of grinding BPs, and dont mind cheating. Here's the addresses you can set for the characters (that I can remember) that have BP requirements for shit. Feel free to post this in the new thread if you decide to make one.

If theres other characters I missed with BP requirements, let me know. All addresses are 4 bytes.

01CB4D50 Reimu
01CB5548 Marisa
01CBA4B8 Cirno
01CBACB0 Minoriko
01CBBCA0 Chen
01CBC498 Nitori
01CBD488 Wriggle
064C1008 Nazrin
064C27F0 Okuu

Some extra characters I found along the way, these don't have BP requirements if I remember correctly, but might as well post them just in case.

01CBCC90 Parsee
01CBEC70 Aya
01CB74E8 Rinnosuke
01CB84D8 Momiji
01CB7CE0 Keine

>>11367976
Meiling, Remilia, Patchouli, and Sakuya for Flandre's

>>11367991
I haven't gotten all of them yet, if you can upload your save with them and i'll do it right away.

>>11367976
Wouldn't it be easier to just modify the save file?

>>11367976
this is great, thanks.

One last question about BP: Do events requiring BP decrease the amount of BP a character has? For example, if Minoriko has 200 BP, and an event requires her to have 150 BP, will she have 50 BP once the event is finished?

>>11368048
I really doubt it.

Just set it to like 10000 and you'll be fine.

>>11368002
https://mega.co.nz/#fmOQRnmBKI
No idea if that's what you want