/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>11339060

I've been getting this message for the last 12 hours or so after trying to log in, what does it mean?

>>11339067
Try re logging? happened to me once.

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>>11339090
Woah, I never knew the Japanese came here to exhort money from us.

How do I get a slot? I keep getting reprimanded by the cat...

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>>11339104
if you havent already then its too late

>>11339115
I woke up an hour and a half ago and kept refreshing the page this whole time...

>>11339090
I really wish I could hate my money enough to jump through the hoops needed for a Sutocorp account.
The fact that I need to scan my ID so that I can throw money at docks puts me off the idea a bit too much since it would involve buying a scanner.

To previous thread anon

My E2 setup was Chiyoda(seaplane carrier) as leader, two Kongou class BBs, Ooi as nuker, then Kaga and Akagi.
Having seaplane tender 100% leads you to the north route.

You don't need 46cm for this map, I even didn't craft 46cm, still managed to finish E4. But I believe you need some better planes esp attackers, put them to the biggest slots, Kaga for example 44 one.
Also craft recon plane Saiun(彩雲), it will nullify formation disadvantage having one for minimum slot is enough.
AA is really important, better get some AA guns for BBs as well. radars also helps a lot.

As for event expeditions, you need two DDs and your favorite ship team up for event expedition.
1st expedition is for one of normal enemy point, 2nd one is for Boss fights.
You don't need 1st one, but 2nd one is good.
I don't think you should care that for E2 tho, but for E4 it was essential for me.
If you want try event expedition, I recommend 2 DDs and 2 light carriers with full of bomber planes. It's really cost-effective combo.
One thing you should remember is these event-expedition team will eat up your resources regardless how your sortie ends.

to previous anon 2

10/10/10/11 for sonar.
Don't forget make destroyer as leader ship.

>>11339128
You can probably do that at your local library.

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>>11339113
All the shit necessary for a /vg/ thread. Fuck off.

>>11339170
Why don't you do this to the MMD thread, C84 thread, and Grisaia threads?

>>11339170
Kancolle is /jp/ because it's only playable via VPN or actually being in Japan. Do you see any game on /vg/ that requires some sort of VPN just to play it?

>>11339189
For a while, Phantasy Star Online 2. I don't know if they still do, I think Japan kicked a lot of them out.

Do I have enough time to beat E1 at least with this team /jp/? I haven't crafted a single custom weapon and I have little to no idea on how the event works. But I want to get subchan at least.

If that could help I've dropped another battleship tier 3 right now.

>>11339184
>MMD
/jp/ related.
>C84
/jp/ related.
>Grisaia
/jp/ related.

>>11339189
>Do you see any game on /vg/ that requires some sort of VPN just to play it?
>>>/vg/44613149
However, that isn't relevant at all.

>>11339200
>/jp/ related.
A moderator told me in email that Kancolle was /jp/-related when I asked him why the janitor was deleting the threads.

If, like a lot of people, you don't give a shit what anybody in staff thinks, there's no reason that an untranslated Japan-only girl collection game isn't /jp/ by either rules or tradition.

>>11339202
>there's no reason that an untranslated Japan-only girl collection game isn't /jp/ by either rules or tradition
There's no reason why you can't force this on /vg/ either. The kawaii-anime-uguu girls will instantly take off.

>A moderator told me in email that Kancolle was /jp/-related
[citation needed]

>>11339195
I heard you need alot of anti sub for E1, so you should probably get a remodeled Isuzu.

Which is what i'm doing atm, I got my Isuzu just trying to grind a few more levels for my fleet before I try E1

>>11339210
I have an anti sub tier 1 weapon, can't I just place it on shimakaze?

>>11339206
>There's no reason why you can't force this on /vg/ either.
Grisaia, Labyrinth of Touhou, VNTS, STG General, Melty threads, Soku threads, and Shinkirou threads could all have gone in /vg/, too. But they didn't.

>[citation needed]
Anonymous ## Mod, personal correspondence, August 3 2013.

So since your flagship can never sink or get fatigued, can you just send her out alone forever without repairing to level grind really quickly?

>>11339217
/jp/ was created for those, and not some FotM video game.

>>11339225
/jp/ was created to get mildly /a/-looking shit that wasn't anime or manga out of /a/. This qualifies.

>>11339225
On top of that, moot asked us if he should make a /vn/ board, but we refused.

Still waiting for a citation.

>>11339216
I dont know how much anti sub you need since I haven't tried it yet.
But this is the picture of anon's fleet at the end of last thread that cleared E1

>>11339232
>On top of that, moot asked us if he should make a /vn/ board, but we refused.
What's your point?

>Still waiting for a citation.
Anonymous ## Mod. Personal interview. 3 August 2013.

This is MLA. I can provide it in APA or Chicago or any other citation style you insist on using.

>>11339221
Yep, it's effective to hunt resources as well, but your win/lose ratio will go down.

To prevent this, their event set minimum winning rate to enter. Current event requires 75% or higher.

>>11339221
A damaged ship deals almost no damage. and on top of that, you still need to pay fuel and ammo cost. so I think this is not really cost efficient.

>>11339235
What flagship should I have when i'm trying to craft sonars with the 10/10/10/11 recipe?

>>11339230
This also qualifies as a video game with what seems to be a recurring general--both fitting the qualifications for a /vg/ thread.

>>11339238
Since you seem to be purposely acting dense, how about proof, then? A link, picture, whatever.

>>11339244
Destroyer

>>11339249
>This also qualifies as a video game with what seems to be a recurring general--both fitting the qualifications for a /vg/ thread.
And, as I've pointed out, so do any number of other /jp/ threads.

>Since you seem to be purposely acting dense, how about proof, then? A link, picture, whatever.
You know as well as I do that I am incapable of giving you actual proof. I cannot give you a link to the email, and even the dumbest /b/tard knows screenshots don't prove shit.

Just started trying to clear E-1 with this team, seems to work pretty well.
I managed to reach the boss and win.

>>11339240
>>11339241
Right now I'm just trying to grind Kongo to 25 so I can reconstruct her, fuse her with my four other Kongos and Fusos/Yamashiros, then send her off to E-2. Grinding on 1-2, I win every fight for 150-180exp each.

Not sure why I have so many Kongos and none of her sisters.

>>11339193
PSO2 has never required a proxy/VPN.

They just ban any gaijins they catch acting like an obnoxious retard in the lobby.

>>11339258
>These seem
>seem
Why wouldn't a mod be sure about this? They'd have the ability to check, wouldn't they?

>http://archive.foolz.us/jp/thread/11230211/
This is a thread about "ridiculous slurping noises girls make in ero voice acting".

>and even the dumbest /b/tard knows screenshots don't prove shit
Mike said you're dumb, here's proof:
E-mail from Mike - August 23rd

>>11339285
>Why wouldn't a mod be sure about this? They'd have the ability to check, wouldn't they?
I believe, but am not sure, that moderators can can look over janitor deletion logs.

If something is not in the log, it could mean that OP deleted it, or OP was banned and all posts erased, or someone of admin level or higher deleted it, or (if the log doesn't include regular mod action) that a moderator deleted it.

>This is a thread about "ridiculous slurping noises girls make in ero voice acting".
That email is the third in a series. While I was getting archive links for Kancolle threads, I asked him about it because I was wondering if anything had changed in regards to moderation policy concerning ero voice CDs.

>Mike said you're dumb, here's proof: E-mail from Mike - August 23rd
If you refuse to believe me, and insist that the picture I have provided is shopped, I can do nothing more to convince you other than: 1. request official moderator verification in /q/, or 2. turn over my email account to you, and I am not interested in doing either.

So I played for the last 2 days when the new server opened.
I can say this is the worst online game I ever played and with the most unfriendly free to play scheme.
It's unplayable without the wiki. Those fuckers expect you to random input values to make ships and equipment, my ass, other games have at least a tech tree or a lottery like Cosmic Break.
So the success is pretty much 2hu like. While 2hu were just mediocre games and no one would give a fuck about them, with slapped moe on it it became huge success. Because otaku and weaboos are literally retarded, i.e. there are Miku fans who have no idea it's a vocaloid and about the music, they just worship her because they like her design, probably there are 2hu fans like that who have no idea there are games.
Imagine Kancolle when you replace the pictures of moe girls for pictures of ships and remove the voices - what you end up is a godawful game. When I think of it even though WoT is shit it's the best "free to play" game I played, the most free to play friendly, and with the most simple user interface.
Kancolle is pay to win of the worst kind. Japanese may have interesting ideas but they are retarded when they have to realize them. I guess it works in the end since otaku are retarded as well.

>>11339301
>Imagine Kancolle when you replace the pictures of moe girls for pictures of ships and remove the voices - what you end up is a godawful game. When I think of it even though WoT is shit it's the best "free to play" game I played, the most free to play friendly, and with the most simple user interface.
It'll just become Navyfield with only Japanese ships.

>>11339301
>I guess it works in the end since otaku are retarded as well.
Nice finisher. Couldn't agree more. But then again, it obviously works, they're swimming in money and customers, and making money off subhumanly stupid toilet cleaners has an extensive backstory in human history.

>>11339301
>It's unplayable without the wiki. Those fuckers expect you to random input values to make ships and equipment, my ass, other games have at least a tech tree or a lottery like Cosmic Break.
I blew away my first sixteen craft points on dumb shit like 12 cm guns (I also made some battleship cannons I can't use because I have nothing to put them on), but I'm still coming along fine. I have no battleships, but I have heavy cruisers and light carriers that I have picked up, and a huge team of mid-level destroyers.

>Imagine Kancolle when you replace the pictures of moe girls for pictures of ships and remove the voices - what you end up is a godawful game.
The vast majority of games that /jp/ plays would not sell at all if the girls were replaced by bricks.

>>11339295
i see.

i'm sorry for wasting your time, then, and i'd also like to thank you for being somewhat rational. since someone seems to be 'cleaning up' a bit, i'll get out of your hair, too.

>>11339301
>WoT
try doto
Paying in kancolle is only worth it if you're spending 10hours a day everyday on it, and on top of that, it's a solo game.
Otherwise, game would be shit if things like fast contruction or buckets were unavailable. But this isn't the case, they drop pretty easily and it's rare to ran out of them unless you use them all the time without caring about time optimisation.

>>11339315
Don't worry, I was just watching my ships repair anyway. Obviously you're supposed to do something else while you wait but right now it's late and I can't think.

If I remodeled Ise can I still use her for the Ise sisters quest?

I don't even know what I'm doing. Am I going too fast for having her at this level? I haven't even past Map 1.

Is there a better overall aircraft carrier than Akagi?

I want the BEST for my fleet.

Speaking of, I have Chitose up to level 10. How do you remodel?

>>11339375
Customize menu.

>>11339361
People may suggest that you lay off the battleships until you're able to feed them properly, but if you can, then, whatever.

Just built my first battleship and it's Hiei, she's annihilating everything...I'm slowly levelling Chitose for a remodel too, she's level 5 right now

>>11339375
Customize menu. Glancing over the "How to Play" stuff with a dictionary add-on may help.

>>11339361
People may suggest that you lay off the battleships until you're able to feed them properly, but if you can, then, whatever.

>>11339393
Yeah, the supply problem is really pain in the ass. Guess I have to do expedition farming a lot.

>>11339369
Kaga is better carrier.
You can get her through area 2, if you're lucky enough.

>>11339361
>>11339387
I second this.
IMO, crafting heavy hitters in early level is pretty bad idea.
You'll be out of resources and can't do anything.

>>11339393
Appreciate it. Thanks to you and the other anon for assistance.

Now the better question is: What to equip upgraded Chitose (Level 10) with?

Should I do it, /jp/? Would the RNG god give me her blessing?

>>11339408
Mine has the scout seaplane, the bomber seaplane and that 10 cm gun

>>11339415
Tried using that once, got Kongou.

>>11339415
You've got plenty of ingredients so I would.

>>11339361
You got a Kongou at level NINE? I've been trying to get *any* battleship since forever, I'm level 21 now. My luck is terrible.

>>11339415
What's your flagship? I read that flagship influences the outcome.

>>11339419
>>11339420
Got 4hr30mins so I decided to throw caution to the wind and use one of those quick construction tools. That's not kongo at all! ;_;

>>11339434
I'm >>11339392, got a battleship at level 6/7....

>>11339438
Chitose. Should I use one of my light cruiser instead?

>>11339439
Kongo class BB has a 4hr construction time.
I think that Ise class BB is better though. You can remodel her at level 10 for an aviation BB

>>11339434
That is terrible luck. Just going through 2-1, 2-2 and 2-3 has me filled to the brim with Fusous that I'm going to feed to my Nagato once she hits level 30.
If you really want a BB just go farm 2-2 or something, it loves to give everything but Haruna. It took three fucking runs to get Kirishima, Kongou and Hiei, about 20 runs later and I now have 4 Kongous, 5 Fusous and a few other BBs I can't remember.

>>11339408
She'll get scout plane 瑞雲(zuiun) at lv10, get torpedo 甲標的 at lv12. both allows you to have opening bombing, I mean twice.
My opinion is keep her as nifty seaplane carrier and skip lv15 remodel til lv50.
You'll get shit tons of other light carrier instead.
After lv50, she'll be one of best light carrier, remodel her at lv50 if you still want another light carrier.

>>11339438
flagship doesn't matter for ships, only weapons.

>>11339434
Actually, seven. Level 9 is when I got Kaga.

>>11339456
>>11339452
I would go and try my luck again but spamming to get BB's have drained my resources and now I fight every battle with a fleet of 5 heavies and 1 carrier I rotate around.

>>11339451
Speaking of those, which BBs are turned into BBCVs after the remodel?

>>11339464

Fuso/Yamashiro, Ise/Hyuga, they'll lose some fire power instead tho.

>>11339464
Ise and Hyuga

I guess this is the best place to ask.

What fleet combination is best to tackle 2-2? Pic related is my current group but the minute I step into it this is what happens, I still have a lot of spare HC/LC floating around at the same level but they also have a habit of going in the red before the first night battle.

Should I start investing in getting a BB, or is it just bad weapons/combos that hold me back?

>>11339513
Take a look at the formation page on the wiki
http://www56.atwiki.jp/kancolle/pages/25.html
Try with a more defensive formation.
You also don't have a scouting plane for extra evasion.
And BB is always a good thing, you should replace the destroyer

>>11339128
You don't really need to scan your ID. They mostly want a proof of address so if you have any bills in pdf with your address on it. That should work

What does this error say ?

>>11339628
Check the archives for the previous threads.

What's the best way to get Jintsu, guys? Need her for the completion of the Sendai quest. Had her before, but is there a select recipe from the list I should try or any place she drops?

>>11339672
Keep doing 2-1 or spam all 30 crafts.
My experience tells you every "last one" is stupidly rare.

Does the enemy gauge replenish in E-1?
If not it's not that hard (as long as compass don't start trolling me)

Can you remodel if you go past the required level, or can you only do it at that level?

>>11339693
The gauge doesn't replenish in E-1.

>>11339711
you can remodel at any time.

>>11339748
Thank god for that then, keeping track of what ship remodels at what level was becoming a pain.

I got this ruining my attempts at joining. First I assumed it was a sign that I was in the lottery, but the text made me wonder later if it wasn't just some error.

What does it say? I could read error, browser and please. But I need to work more on my other kanjis.

>>11339820
Just an error.

>>11339820
通信エラーが発生した為
ブラウザの再読み込みをお願いします。

There was an error in communication.
Please reload your browser.

>>11339820
For some reason it was popping up a dialog window once in a while during the game, and pressing cancel was letting me efficiently run the game for indefinite amounts of time. Too bad tsunagarumon is dead now.

Anyone know if the API link is locked to cookie/IP or anything?
I'm thinking about creating a simple web app in my Japan VPS and use that to grab the link instead of using VPN.

>>11339868
I don't think it's locked to cookie. I have opened it in Chrome and firefox on my linux and windows. I don't think it's IP locked too as I have accessed it from home and school.

>>11339870
That's great to know. Thanks.

>>11339820
Give up, it's impossible to join the game at this point.

I don't think that's an understatement, by the way. There's too much luck involved in getting on a server before it fills up completely, or being selected in a raffle out of a thousand others, all that hidden behind a language barrier that's hard to surpass (although admittedly, I can see that once you get in the game, things seem well-cataloged enough). I've been constantly trying for a month with no luck.

I'm not saying go home entirely, but find something else to do right now. The game is growing too fast for it to be worth it to try and get in.

>>11339820
Server is getting busy.
It's Friday night in Japan.
I believe many people are rushing event maps, you'll get more cats screen this weekend.

I was watching nicolive's kancolle program.

1. The event was for exceeding 200k accounts anniversary, but surpassed 500k accounts during the period.
2. They're going to tweak current flagship system to prevent 1HP play.
3. over 10k ppl finished E4 and got Yamato, etc.

>>11339888
>They're going to tweak current flagship system to prevent 1HP play.
Eh?
>3. over 10k ppl finished E4 and got Yamato, etc.
Eeeeh?

>>11339888
10k? Wow I thought way less cleared E4

How do I get the scout seaplane to not fail every. Single. Time? I'm burning way more resources than I need to thanks to evasion penalty.

Does it have anything to do with the fact that I'm launching them from CLs and CAs? I don't have a seaplane carrier yet.

>>11339916
The screen says penalty but actually there's no penalty.

If you get more of them they'll fail less (either by equipping more or get a seaplane which can hold more)

>>11339916
I'm pretty sure it depends on the enemy detection stat (that eye thing).
CL and CA are poor in this so it's normal you fail.
My Ise never fail.

>>11339888
>3. over 10k ppl finished E4 and got Yamato, etc.
Shit, I didn't know the event gives Yamato, I only joined a couple days ago so I'm not high enough level to tackle the event yet.

>>11339868

It is not locked to cookies because I could open it in Explorer instead of Firefox when testing solutions to my error >>11339820

>>11339886

I don't have a shortage of things to do. But it would be nice to get this over with since it happens at a bad time of the day. (Requires me to remote log in from work).

I do hope that they sooner or later reach a point where they have more slots on servers than players, as most other games tend to have.

>>11339916
Probably from the stats from the ships where they're launched from.I had Chiyoda and Ise upgraded to aviation BB and only Ise seems to fail at times during the opening bomb runs from their seaplanes.
Though most of the time those two succeed in their bomb runs, only thing I hate is when the two target the same ship

>>11339950
I also really wish I could just get this over with and join already, because this seems like the kind of game where some downtime is expected between sessions, and I would enjoy that in my daily routine, in between my doing of things.

Unfortunately I had to accept that the game is too popular right now, and maybe I did hyperbole it a little, but I still think that getting in is way too hard and arbitrary.

>>11339916
Check your ship's scout(索敵) stat.
It depends on which map you're on, but 50 or higher scout point w/ plane or radar is enough for most part.

God damn it, finally. Now, where the fuck is Jintsu?

>>11340024
Forget image.

>>11339888
No news about extending the event?

>>11339979
This post has made me extraordinarily depressed, seeing as I've been getting up at 4 AM my time, trying to get in for an hour or so, then going back to sleep.

>>11340052
I was getting like 1-2 hours of sleep, waking up for 8am and trying to get in. Managed to get in when they launched server 8 though.

>>11340052
I'm sorry.

>>11340033
No announcement about that.
So The event will end in 26th JST as it was planned.
Well, they already have extended this event twice, so yeah, only two days left.

4 hour construction time only to get Fuso, goddamn. I don't even have a good enough resource income rate to use battleships yet.

Planning to take on E-2 (and maybe more?) with this fleet main composition (after remodeling Souryuu first, she's 1.5k away from lv30...)

Also stockpiled about 10k fuel / 10k ammunitions / 8k steel.
For spare planes:
- 1 Tenzan / 天山
- 1 Suisei / 彗星
- bunchs of Model 52 / 零式艦戦52型
Not too sure if I should put more fighters, or change the bomber/torpedo bomber ratio... Still not very experienced with carriers composition.

Also could replace Mutsu with remodeled ~25 Fusou/Yamashiro/Hyuuga/Ise but I'm not sure I should trade raw firepower for some seaplane bombers.
(Haruna and Kirishima are still lv20 only...)

Will that be enough anon?

I read about putting CVS Chiyoda or Chitose as flagship to take north route, any reasons?
I have them but still lv 2~6... Should I remodel them at first or are they here as 1hp flagship bait and for compass purposes?

Also would that be enough to take on E-3 and E-4 with intensive expeditions farming to sustain my aggressive sorties?

>>11340072
What effects the income rates anyway - your level? You get a base 3 fuel+steel+ammo per 3 min and 1 bauxite fer min rate and the best resource expeditions on a per hour base seem to be 1-3 and 1-5 which you can start doing pretty much right from the start. Sorties, by themselves, are bound to be a loss resource-vise. Quest rewards also stay the same throughout the game.

>>11340109
No idea, but I'm only level 7 so running a full fleet with 1 BB on battles ends up costing me about 100 in ammo (which I have a decent supply of) plus 50-70 in fuel.

>>11340109
you can unlock higher grade expedition for one.
Of course the first few have the best hourly ratio, but when you sleep or are afk, you're better of getting 350 fuel in 4h than 200 in 1h30 since you're away for a long time anyway.

Quest are easier to do.

Ships cost more to repair but evade more on higher level so doing the cost is overall less costly

You enventually have all the ship you want or close too, and spend less too.

>http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%B7%FA%C2%A4#m940f532
How accurate is this information? I don't really think that the secretary ship does affect the type of ship you built because I got Hyuga with Sendai but the admiral's level is pretty close (400/30/600/30 for level 6-7).

What fairy is that? Think I can't buy this because I've got none of that fairy type; I just want my cozy zataku...

>>11340120
from general consensus (and my own empiric experience for what it's worth), secretary only matters when you craft equipment, not ships

>>11340124
sadly you have to throw in additional 300jpy in the cash shop for that

>>11340124
It's one of the cash shop type, I think; the fairy in the middle section of the cash shop along with the fast repair, building etc tools.

>>11340127
Figures. That gives me hope though, gonna try again.

>>11340124
>>11340130
It's the one with 特注家具職人 label.

>>11340107

You need better fighter and put them to carrier's best slot and some AA weapons as well. Air superiority is really important in E maps.

CVS to take north route is really helpful it means one less combats to boss.
But it's fine as long as you can take south route easy.
Since my level was enough high for E2, I'm not sure if your fleet can beat E2, but many people sayin that E2 is easier than 2-4.

I don't think you can go through E3, E4.
Simply, because of level/resource/buckets shortage.

>>11340107

Cont >>11340146
But after defeating E2, you can enjoy soloing E3 with SS168 to hunt another SS(i-58).

Fuck, I lost a lvl19 Kuma while going against E-1 boss.
I give up on it. I'd need to build another antisub unit and there's no time.
You died for nothing Kuma ;_;
I'm sorry ;_;

>>11340155
Oh no ;_;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI1f6aP9TuQ

So far, I've picked up or crafted twenty-two light cruisers - including 2 Naka, 2 Sendai, and 4 Kiso - and ten heavy cruisers, four light carriers, a hundred and fifty destroyers, and a Chitose.

But I haven't seen a Jintsu yet.

I managed to beat E-1 but I didnt get sub girl.

>>11340146
Not that anon but for anti-air, do you need at least one green AA weapon for your AA to activate, or will a high anti-air stat take care of things? Kind of confusing since some main cannons have AA bonus.

>>11340155
>>11340168
This is what happened to me my first time doing it, I lost a Yura trying to beat it and then I realized simply winning the boss fight once meant nothing, have to deplete the gauge (and actually kill the boss sub, not just get a win)

>>11339898
Apparently your 1st fleet flagship can't die, I actually never realized that until fairly recently. That explains though why my first week or so Inazuma always survived even if I went into night combat with her at low HP; I had her as my flagship all the time. Back then I always thought it was because of that repair crew item, not knowing yet that they were consumed after one use (which never happened since she was actually invincible)

>>11339979
>downtime between sessions
That's what I thought too, and was the case for a week or so once I got through the first couple days, but now I can end up playing nonstop if I don't force myself to quit. Lately my free time has been consumed by KanColle, browsing pixiv for KanColle art, and doing research on the historical ships. I haven't even touched Grisaia after waiting on the translation for so long, it came out like the day after I started KanColle.

>>11340168
did you beat it once or did you totally empty the red bar.
It took me 5 wins, after my 4th victory there was only 1 pixel of red bar left...

I have collected a Chitose, four light carriers, eleven heavy cruisers, twenty two light cruisers, and near a hundred and fifty destroyers, but I still haven't found a Jintsu.

Any minute now.

>>11340194
I fear I walked a very similar path, anon. I have not as much ship though but I already have Nako and Sendai in my fleet already.

>>11340158
Damn not this again.
>Haguro
>あの子達・・・ちゃんと逃げ切れたかな・・・ああ・・・もう・・・何も・・・何も見えない・・・
No no no ;_;

>>11340146
thanks, I guess I came a bit too late into the game.

I suppose I could go with
Akagi:
- 流星
- 52型 fighter
- 紫電改二
- 彩雲
Souryuu
- 天山
- 52型
- 52型
- 天山 (not sure I'd need a 彩雲 2nd scout & torpedo bombers seems more effective than bombers...)
or are 52型 not effective enough and I should be investing to craft either 紫電改二 or 烈風

Just out of curiosity, just how high should the girls be leveled to have a decent chance at E-3 and E-4?
And yeah I fear resources will be my biggest problem in the long run...

>>11340180
I can take out huge chunks of a wave of aircraft with no aircraft of my own and not equipping AA weapons, just my BBs and Maya with her 92 AA using main guns and radar.

This is more in practice battles though (where I'm trying to avoid wasting bauxite against nasty human opponent aircraft), I personally never had much issue with enemy carriers on the event maps using Kaga and Akagi, the problem was always the battleships.

>>11340194
I'll never get Hatsuharu, the sheer number of variety in destroyer class makes getting a specific ship incredibly hard.

>>11340180
My Japanese skills aren't really great so I could have misread it but I think you need green guns for your AA to activate but it seems to work with yellow guns as well.
Not sure if only red+radar are enough.

>400/30/600/30
>1hr20+mins
>430/30/730/30
>1hr20mins
Kill me please.

>>11340226
Are you me? I hope not, its been like that for me for 3 days already

>>11340232
I'm still level 8 though so I might not meet the "requirement". The second combination is from >>11340120 , I'll try another combination tomorrow.

>>11340235
Don't worry, i keep getting 1h20mins shits at lvl 40.

>>11340245
My condolences, anon.

My Akagi died. Now I don't have to repair her.

>>11340254
You monster. I'm sitting on 57 steel because of her right now.

>>11340254
Thats one hell of a silver lining.

>>11340258
>>11340260
All these Akagi talk is making me afraid of my first aircraft carrier.

>>11340180

There are two different anti-air effects from AA weapons.
One is weaker AA fire that ship don't move.
Another is strong AA fire that ship move forward for the incoming enemy planes.

For example, 7.7mm machine guns looks weaker but will cause the latter effect and have bonus AA power.
12.7mm doesn't do bonus AA attack but has extra "normal" fire power status.
Every weapons with AA stat have either of those AA effects. (46mm canon has bonus AA one)

Setting AA weapons to the 4th(or last) slot won't activate AA move, so put them into other slots.

>>11340199

紫電改二 is a nice fighter. You'll notice your bauxite consumption will be much lower.
One 彩雲 scout is enough for one fleet, you don't need another.

I think you need lv50ish fleets, include three BB, well grown Kaga and similar leveled two DDs or Torpedo bombers as nuker.
12k resources, and 100+ buckets for each maps to go without worrying about. Also, enough playing times.

Consuming resource will be different each other, I spend 3k fuels plus 18 buckets on E3, my friend burned 8k fuels and 40 buckets on the same map.

Alright I give up on trying to get my 2nd anti sub for E1, I have Isuzu remodel but I cant get Yura drop.
Is it fine to do E1 without 2 real anti sub ships?

JINTSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU LIGHT CRUISER #23

>>11340266
I need to learn about these slot work somehow, my furigana injector just refuses to work on the wiki pages.

>>11339888
>3. over 10k ppl finished E4 and got Yamato, etc.
Well, i guess they collected enough revenue to last for a year at least.

>>11340275
You can use other LC or DD as anti sub instead.
People recommend Yura because she has high anti sub status like Isuzu does.
I doubt one anti-sub is enough for E1 tho. Even with having BB in your team and let her attack twice.

>>11340293
Got upgraded Isuzu & Yura, still not enough. I can reach the boss and damage the elite subs but not enough to destroy it. Especially when Yura and Isuzu always waste 1 shot to kill the vice subs.

>>11340266
>will cause the latter effect and have bonus AA power.
>Setting AA weapons to the 4th(or last) slot won't activate AA move, so put them into other slots.
How are people supposed to know these random mechanics besides reading the wiki? Or how would players found out in the first place Did they explain it on twitter or something?

>>11340323
>Or how would players found out in the first place
Step 1. Put AA weapon into fourth slot.
Step 2: Notice you don't get the special animation.
Step 3: Put two and two together.

>>11340275
>>11340317
I did it with Yura, Isuzu, and Abukuma, each with a depth charge equipped, and it was barely enough at times (especially when I got an elite sub in addition to the boss absorbing two shots)

Light carriers and upgraded Mogami can bomb subs too, but I'm not too sure how effective it is.

>>11340158
fucking depressing shit ;_;
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=36607555

>>11340266
thanks again anon, all that help is very much appreciated.
I guess there is still much I have to learn about the game mechanics.
Recently got Shimakaze but I guess I'll stop after E-2 and focus on preparing my fleet for next event.

>>11340331
I noticed the movements, but I thought it's those ships being attacked or some random trigger. There's so much details left unexplained that anything could have caused that (random formation, random enemy position in fleet, etc.)

No actual AA damage is being shown anywhere, so how does one supposed to know that it's extra damage besides what's written.

>>11340369
I thought you could kind of tell by seeing how many planes fall out of the sky.

how do you get the special request furniture ?
can't find any info about it on the jap wiki

is there a prefered flagship to get depth charge ?

>>11340408
Light Cruiser, I used Isuzu

>>11340338
>Light carriers and upgraded Mogami can bomb subs too, but I'm not too sure how effective it is.
Really? Do you have to use Seaplanes or anything?
Fucking yeah, time to dust off my forgotten lv20 Mogami.

>>11340369
Nope, when the initial bombardment commences, note that there's some of the ships that move forward. Maybe it's a coincidence that whenever you saw it, it's always those ships that sustained bombardment damage.

I'm >>11340266 anon.
I'm sorry, I have a correction about AA weapons thingies.

1. AA guns have a chance to activate special AA animation for extra AA damage by putting it on proper slot. But sometimes it fails.

46cm(this activate 100%), 三式弾（big red rocket）, various AA guns like 10cm one.

2. machine-guns do effective normal AA attack, this is 100% guaranteed in every opening.

For steady AA, pick machine gun. (my source recommend this)
For some AA with bonus "normal" fire power stat, pick AA gun.
Best AA weapon is 46cm canon for now.

I'm itching to do E-1 but I'm not sure if I have enough resources.

Both carriers have 3 torpedo bombers and the 3 CL each have tier one sonar and depth charges.

I'm also curious of whether two depth charges offer more damage or extra attacks.

>>11340422
Yeah, I would presume you have to use seaplanes. The only way I know is because I fought a practice battle against someone using Mogami and she kept launching planes to attack I-168. Apparently carrier battleships can't because I used Yamashiro on E-1 and she never bombed the subs. It's possible though it might depend on whether you put the planes or a gun in the first slot, I haven't actually tested it.

>>11340445
I had about 3500 fuel when I did E-1. I think I had to make it to, and attack the boss about eight times (with at least as many abortions/wrong turns). I finished with not enough fuel to resupply, if this gives any indication.

>>11340445
Just sneak into E1 and see.
I think your resources are enough.

one thing I noticed is you shouldn't place any carriers higher than other ship.
Carriers can't do anything in night combat and will be skipped then give your enemy free fire.

You shouldn't do night combat against SSs in E1 tho.

I did expedition no.4 more than 10 times and expedition no.6 a few times (all successful) and didn't get a single furniture box, only a few buckets.
Is this shit normal ?

>>11340443
So you're saying we should fill every ship with reds and some blues here and there? I really don't know about that...

Well shit...I just lost two ships in one battle, and it's not even a fucking hard battle, just 1-4.

>>11340546
What are you doing? You need to tread your ships more carefully ;_;

Oh great. Just learn about this Puffin browser thing. Apparently I could play Kancolle on my phone.
http://www.tabroid.jp/app/tools/2013/07/com.cloudmosa.puffin.html

I need some help /jp/, this is my current team, but I feel like I could improve it a lot, homewer, I have no weapon knowledge so I don't really know what to do.

Also, I plan on getting another aircraft carrier but I don't know who should I pick, and I'll swap Kirishima for Mutsu once I get her, is this a good idea?

>>11340563
Works even with my shit-ass phone, cool.

>>11340598
Oh god I have the same phone, will try this later

>>11340558
I don't know, I was doing 1-4 with my 2nd fleet who's weaker than my main by a couple levels but is definitely not weak enough to die to 1-4, I've done it a couple times with them...Chitose didn't die at least so I can continue levelling her.

>>11340603
Login dmm through Puffin and just use the API link.

>>11340598
does it needs some vpn things too ?

>>11340617
if I do this on my phone, do I have to relogin and use VPN on my computer for a new API link?

>>11340621
Just reuse the API link.

>>11340621
Nope, works just fine when I refresh the game on my pc.

>>11340617
How do you get that link on chrome ? Can't find it via inspecting page source code and flash window source code with right click, not sure where to search else..

>>11340626
Alright thanks.

>>11340629
Just use the API link you use on your pc - c/p it, write the whole thing, whatever.

>>11340637
I meant chome on my PC yeah. I don't know where to find that link like, at all.
the only link I have is that
http://www.dmm.com/netgame/social/-/gadgets/=/app_id=854854/
And clearly that's not it ?

>>11340643
>>11340629
>using chrome

>>11340569
Unless you're doing something where you want 2 destroyers (E-3 and E-4 for an easier path to boss), they're pretty much deadweight, they're only useful in night combat which you shouldn't be bothering with unless you NEED to kill something (bosses). I wouldn't get rid of Kirishima, although "when I get Mutsu" is presuming a lot anyway. (I have a 47 Mutsu and no Nagato.) You pretty much want BBs BBs and more BBs to clear tough maps though, save the destroyers for easy grinding (3-2). I personally used Inazuma as my flagship until she was level 35 or so but honestly she was pretty much useless outside of night combat.

>>11340643
Find something that lets you inspect the content of the page. In Firefox I just right-click, view page info, media tab, look through the list of media on the page (mostly images, icons) until I find the embedded flash.

This is what it looks like in FF (just doing it on this page, I'm not getting back on a VPN just to take a screenshot).

Ok i've done this. Mogami's seaplane attack subs too, which is weird since Ise/Hyuga's seaplane doesn't.

>>11340486
>>11340494
Thanks. I switched up my team and gave Chitose better planes. I went through two battles and got disconnected before reaching the boss. I might have to give up if this doesn't get any better.

>>11340673
>I went through two battles and got disconnected before reaching the boss
delete cache and dmm.com cookies, login

>>11340665
Thanks for the advice. I think I'll just go for the usual 4BB 2 carriers fleet then.

Just got another 4h, I'm really feeling lucky today, I had, in 5 expeditions and 1 craft, Shimakaze + 4BB + Kaga

Seems I was stuck on 1-3, and I've finally unlocked 1-4, goddamn that compass.

>>11340698
I noticed the compass works depending what ships you use. When I played 1-3 I always got to the small enemies, then I added a battleship and got nearly always to the boss.
The compass is such a retarded thing, you should decide where you are going, not this random crap.

>>11340712
I did have a battleship a couple times, but it didn't take me to the boss before I removed it because I was concerned about running costs (I'd like to have enough to attempt to craft another carrier tomorrow)

>>11340712
I agree. They should let you decide where to go, but make the map random.

>>11340716
Well one thing is sure, the fucking compass isn't random at all. Maybe you are supposed to play it a number of times or upgrade your fleet with a better ship till it lets you to the boss.

>>11340676
Wow, thanks. I thought it was just my shitty internet.

Oh god, just met a carrier for the first time and it put two of my ships into medium and major damage. Time to look up AA...although I thought my cruisers had AA?

>>11340563
It loads and loads and loads

>>11340804
Did you log in through dmm.com? It loads endlessly on pc too if you're not logged in.

>>11340809
I'm just using my ID link

>>11340201
If it makes you any happier, the date of the her actual sinking is now celebrated by both the Brits and the Japanese.

>>11340158
I stopped watching at Chitose-Chiyoda. I can't watch any longer.

>>11341087
>that one line Chiyoda says that is pretty much her waking up from a nightmare
>read up about Chitose
>brutally sunk with all hands on deck

>>11340809
Now I get >>11339820 image

Okay, I think I'm just going to give up on getting I-58 now. Two more runs of E-2 got me a Mochizuki and then this happened. I only managed to sink two ships in the boss fight as I missed nearly every attack. Would have been better off spending all that steel on more carrier builds.

I'd spend all my money on this game right now if I knew that they were going to make a western release at some point. Or if there was a more in depth gui translation.

>>11341221
What if western release with dubs?

>>11341224
That's going a little too far.

Maybe if they just made an option on the current website to switch to English, and nothing else was changes, I'd be fine with that.

What recipe best used to get sonar and depth charge? And what flagship? I'm planning to go E-1 before the event ends /jp/

>>11341329
I used Isuzu ~lvl 22 as flagship, 10/50/10/50, about 15-20 tries got me 3 depth charges

>>11340765
After 15+ runs my lighter ships still keep getting maimed by the penultimate flagship 15+ runs. I'd be done if I had used the 単横 formation against the boss in my earlier runs. At least the boss itself is easy.

>>11340765
After 15+ runs my lighter ships still keep getting maimed by the penultimate flagship. I'd be done if I'd used the 単横 formation against the boss in my earlier runs. At least the boss itself is easy.

After some long time i finally managed to clear 2-4, last time i tried got raped bad, now the only one hurted was Yamashiro, but everyone survived.

>>11341152
You do realize the fact that they were sent out there as sacrificial lambs?

>>11341466
Then you realize the Americans had more ships than the Japanese had planes. ;_;

>E1 before boss battle
>All goes well
>crit up one of your ship just a bit under the cloth rip zone
That one encounter really like to fuck up your plan.

>>11341497
Then you realised that the enemies in this game were using imperial metrics for their weapons. Are there any fan-nicknames for the enemies? I was hoping for 'cunts'.

>>11341587
'yanks'.

>>11341738
Sound awfully undemocratic, anon. I can live with that.

I must be late to the party because it doesn't seem like I'm getting a slot to this game

>>11341813

>>11339886

>>11341813
I think they are opening a new server soon. Follow the kancolle staff on twitter for available slots update; I think they tweet some here and there.

>>11341833
Okay, so it says 5000 slots open at 1700.
If I've got this right, I'm supposed to load the page at about 1600, and I want a picture of a girl with a construction hat?
If I get the cat, then I want to try again in 30 minutes?

>>11341862
I don't know about the construction ones, but the picture with the cat is how I got a slot. However, I got my slot the same day the new server is opened. Additionally, it's the weekend, so it would be pretty busy.

>>11341813
I'm grateful there were crossboard Kancolle threads during new server opening like one in /a/, where I initially come from so I could get in there.

>>11341826
Not really. someone posted how to get into the game in previous thread and the only response is 'too complicated'.

ぱんぱかぱーん!

>>11341931
It's a japanese game, it's supposed to be complicated. Getting this game to work is actually easier than hooking up ATLAS with visual novels.

>>11341946
That's my point. All you need is be punctual and log in within 15 minutes after they open new slots. If you can't do that then too bad.

>>11341931
Wait, setting up proxy/VPN is too difficult from them? I only need around 10 minutes to complete all the steps, including setting up JP proxy.

>>11341946
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21626503
ぱんぱかぱーん!

>>11342019
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21663682
Just, just how do they do this?

Wait.

This isn't how you drink tea.

>>11342198
S-stupid, sexy Kongo! Why wouldn't you come to me already? ;_;

"Sank you, Teitoku~!"

I'm getting mixed feelings hearing that Engrish from my shipfu. I don't know if she's thankful or threatening me.

Ah, that wonderful feeling when everyone just decides to crit everything.

>890 pages of fanart on pixiv.
And this game is launched this year.

So I got 島風 but right now my main fleet has 2 battleships, a light carrier, and 3 heavy cruisers.

Should I take a heavy cruiser out and put her in? Right now I'm trying to beat 2-4/

>>11339260
After a few hours, finally cleared E-1.
The hardest part is powerlevelling Izumi, Yura and Hatsuharu to lvl 20. Especially Hatsuharu, damn girl keeps getting critted at 1-1...

I guess I'll go poke at E-2 and see if I can take it.

So currently, I'm stuck at 1-4. Damn aircraft carriers almost killed off my light cruisers. What should I do? Equip everybody with anti-air guns?

Another question, should I remodel Hyuga at level 10? Aviation battleship allows them to drop bombs right?

>>11342354
Yes, as the previous Anon mentioned here >>11340266, equip the AA guns not in the last slot. Adopt the 3rd formation, anti-air/automotive for encounters with carriers.

Aviation battleship loses some firepower/artillery but would greatly contribute to air superiority together with your carriers.

>>11342365
I used a light cruiser to get my sonar.

Oh, forgot to ask. Sonar recipe is 10/10/10/110 with flagship destroyer, right? My luck is terrible.

>>11342363
Ah, alright. I will give it a go. Much appreciated.

>>11342365
destroyer as flagship, 10/10/10/11 not 110.
click ^ to add 1 point.

>>11342354

Please refer >>11340443 too.
Previous one has some false info.
Thank you.

>>11342325
I don't think destroyers can help on 2-4. I'm in the same position as you and I'm looking for a 3rd BB. Also consider a bigger carrier.

>>11342380
Okay thanks a lot.

>>11342380
Ah, okay. Thanks. Another question, when choosing airplanes to equip, what does the number beside its slots say? Mine's a zero but I noticed some screenshots have different numbers. Do I have to 'replenish it somehow'?

>>11342392
That's the number of planes it has.
It costs 5 bauxite per plane to replenish.

>>11342394
Hmm, so I refill it by sending the ships to the docks, correct? Or do I replenish it along with the ammo and fuel? Apologies for these simple questions.

>>11342354
Yes get more AA guns and a BB to boot for extra firepower. Or more heavy cruisers if you can afford them.
Aviation BBs are not really that effective when launching their bombing runs, mine tends to miss though when I had a seaplane doing recon first then together with a seaplane bomber from a seaplane carrier, my aviation BB tends to be more successful on its bomb run,

>>11342404
Pretty sure you replenish them along with ammo and fuel.

>>11342404
If you get 0 beside your shipfu's equipment slot, look at her plane capacity.

It's a plane symbol below the evasion(spiral arrow).

Different slots also determine how many planes can be held there, think hangar location.

>>11342416
>>11342410
>>11342407
Right, got it. Thank you all.

>>11342404
It automatically refill bauxite along with fuel and ammo.
You'll see white message below numbers of resources. (xxxx in the image)
Numbers won't be refreshed until you go back to the home screen.

If you lose a lot of bauxite, you better consider having some AA guns or Fighters.
Putting fighters on your carrier's largest slot is easiest fix.

Is it better to keep trying to build Shimakaze or just farm 2-4's first fight? I've heard from my jap buddy there's a 1/30 chance to get her from there. I went there a lot already but I only got some shitships and Hyuga. Also this is what I'm rolling with right now. As I don't get shortages of supplies, are there any downsides of playing like this? I'd just like to get Shimakaze instead of Mogami.

Are flagships still unsinkable?

>>11342421
You don't have to build Shimakaze, she sure is rare, but there are various drop spots of her, many ppl get her while trying to beat 2-4.
Yukikaze is the only ship you souhld build, There's also some drop spots yea, but her drop chance are only from boss.
Recipe is 250/30/200/30.

>>11342439
Oh, thanks. Back to 2-4's first fight I go then.
Yukikaze was actually the first ship I've built in Kankore. Didn't know she's so rare.
I'm also trying to get Kongou, but all I keep getting are Fusos...

I couldn't find any information in the previous threads. Are there any pointers regarding the use of formations? I have no idea what should I use in what situation.

>>11342473

>>11342473
http://archive.foolz.us/jp/search/text/formation

I don't know if you people really suck at searching for things, or are just lying.

Ran out of crafting tools since last night. What's the best way to replenish it?

>>11342477
Doing missions. Some daily missions replenished themselves after 5am.

>>11342474
About that pic, isn't 単横陣 better for anti sub? It gives the best boost to damage after all. 梯形陣 is useless imho.

>>11342474
It somewhat feels like the descriptions for the formations should also include how they effect stats, at least with a general description anyways. Especially for ones like "Airstrike up" where it also boosts AA and apparently also drops your armour like crazy.

>>11342484
>>11342485
I have no idea really. Some anon probably crafted it in the beginning and was passed from one generation to another. Now that the game is out for sometime already, we could get a clearer picture.

>>11342485
That guide is fine. If someone wants more info they should just read wiki

>>11342473
It's like you didn't even read the thread.

>>11342480

Sorry, but where are these missions? Are they quests that you need to fulfill or the expeditions you send your fleet out to?

>>11342495
The link besides the cash-shop (or the house-looking icon). The missions are like your quests indeed, but some of them are like chores; things you do daily and the game rewards you for it while others are a one-time thing. Expeditions quite different though.

Twelve Mutsuki class (睦月, "First Moon") ships were commissioned between November 1925 and July 1927. They were developed from the Kamikaze class and introduced the new 24 in (60 cm) Type 93 torpedo. Twelve Mutsuki class (睦月, "First Moon") ships were commissioned between November 1925 and July 1927. They were developed from the Kamikaze class and introduced the new 24 in (60 cm) Type 93 torpedo.

All Mutsuki class ships were lost during the war.

The twenty Fubuki class (吹雪, "Snowstorm"), or "Special Type", destroyers were commissioned between May 1928 and May 1932. They were a completely new design and a radical change from their predecessors. The design changes included 5-inch guns, twin mounted in weatherproof, splinter-proof turrets, the transfer aft of torpedo tubes from forward of the bridge, a high, covered bridge and an improved power plant.

One ship survived the war.

The four Akatsuki class (暁, "Daybreak") were commissioned between August 1932 and March 1933. They were derived from the preceding Fubuki design. They were lighter than the Fubukis, with less powerful machinery. Improved design meant they produced comparable power with just three boilers, rather than four. The bridge was enlarged, and new firecontrol systems were fitted.Torpedo tubes were fitted with shields, and reloads were carried

Three were lost during the war, and the lone survivor was transferred to the Soviet Union postwar.

The six Hatsuharu class (初春, "Early Spring") were commissioned between September 1933 and March 1935. They were reduced versions of the preceding Akatsuki design, resulting from the restrictions of the 1930 London Naval Treaty. These ships saw service throughout the Pacific, from the Aleutians to the Solomon Islands.

All were lost before the Japanese surrender.

after a few days, finally done E-1.

It took a while, its either the stupid Battleship Mob that crits my stuff to red or when I do well and all of ships are in good health, I get sent to the south for the item instead of fighting the boss...

glad to at least finish in time. Grinding Isuzu, Yura and my Kiinu to lvl 20-25 wasn't too bad, practice matches really helps.

>>11342484
It boosts the damage of cannons/guns only since that formation brings all available cannons/guns of the ship facing to the side where they can all fire. ASW is typically done by dropping depth charges so the echelon formation is better.

>>11342499

What does a daily mission look like? Right now all I have are ones I'm currently in progress

>>11342521
Refer to this >>11339113

>>11342521
The green ones are formations and aren't dailies. Once you're done with them you're done.
Anyway here for missions: http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=2&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/%3F%25C7%25A4%25CC%25B3&usg=ALkJrhhTI82Wf_5dnOA1QvCh_h99xWXV8g

>>11342521
See >>11339113

Twelve Mutsuki class (睦月, "First Moon") ships were commissioned between November 1925 and July 1927 - Mutsuki, Kisaragi, Yayoi, Uzuki, Satsuki, Minazuki, Fumizuki, Nagatsuki, Kikuzuki, Mikazuki, Mochizuki, and Yuzuki. They were developed from the Kamikaze class and introduced the new 24 in (60 cm) Type 93 torpedo.

All Mutsuki class ships were lost during the war.

The twenty Fubuki class (吹雪, "Snowstorm"), or "Special Type", destroyers were commissioned between May 1928 and May 1932: Type 1 Fubuki - Fubuki, Shirayuki, Hatsuyuki, Miyuki, Murakumo, Shinonome, Usugumo, Shirakumo, Isonami, and Uranmi; Type 2 Ayanami - Ayanami, Shikinami, Asagiri, Yugiri, Amagiri, Sagiri, Oboro, Akebono, Sazanami, and Ushio. They were a completely new design and a radical change from their predecessors. The design changes included 5-inch guns, twin mounted in weatherproof, splinter-proof turrets, the transfer aft of torpedo tubes from forward of the bridge, a high, covered bridge and an improved power plant.

Ushio survived the war.

The four Akatsuki class (暁, "Daybreak") were commissioned between August 1932 and March 1933 - Akatsuki, Inazuma, Ikazuchi, and Hibiki. They were derived from the preceding Fubuki design. They were lighter than the Fubukis, with less powerful machinery. Improved design meant they produced comparable power with just three boilers, rather than four. The bridge was enlarged, and new firecontrol systems were fitted.Torpedo tubes were fitted with shields, and reloads were carried

The lone survivor, Hibiki was transferred to the Soviet Union after the war.

>>11342521
if you dont know japanese you really shouldnt be playing this game

>>11342533
The six Hatsuharu class (初春, "Early Spring") were commissioned between September 1933 and March 1935 - Hatsuharu, Nenohi, Wakaba, Hatsushimo, Ariake, and Yugure. They were reduced versions of the preceding Akatsuki design, resulting from the restrictions of the 1930 London Naval Treaty. These ships saw service throughout the Pacific, from the Aleutians to the Solomon Islands.

All were lost before the Japanese surrender.

The ten Shiratsuyu class (白露, "White Dew") were commissioned between August 1936 and August 1937 - Shiratsuyu, Shigure, Murasame, Yudachi, Samidare, Harusame, Yamakaze, Kawakaze, Umikaze, and Suzukaze. They were redesigned Hatsuharas (six, later increased to ten), in the light of the Tomozuru incident.

All ten were lost during the war.

The ten Asashio class (朝潮, "Morning Tide") were commissioned between August 1937 and June 1938 - Asashio, Ōshio, Michishio, Arashio, Natsugumo, Yamagumo, Minegumo, Asagumo, Arare, and Kasumi. They were developments of preceding designs with the intention of combining the firepower of the Fubukis with the designed stability of the Shiratsuyus. The class was active in the landings in the Dutch East Indies, Battle of Midway and the Solomon Islands.

All were lost during the war.

>>11342535
The eighteen Kagerō class (陽炎, "Heat Haze") were commissioned between November 1939 and July 1941 - Kagero, Shiranui, Kuroshio, Oyashio, Hayashio, Natsushio, Hatsukaze, Yukikaze, Amatsukaze, Tokitsukaze, Urakaze, Isokaze, Hamakaze, Tanikaze, Nowaki, Arashi, Hagikaze, Maikaze, and Akigumo. In 1937, Japan withdrew from the London Naval Treaty and the Kagerōs were designed free of these restrictions, utilising experience drawn from previous classes. Ships of the class screened the force that attacked at Pearl Harbor. They were also present in the Philippines, Midway and the Dutch East Indies.

Yukikaze survived the war.

Shimakaze (島風, "Island Wind"), the sole member of its class, was commissioned in May 1943. It was an experimental design. Within a significantly larger hull that displaced 2,600 tons, a new turbine design gave 50% more power than earlier designs and enabled trials speeds of over 40 knots (74 km/h, 46 mph). The standard six five-inch guns were retained but in Type D turrets with greater elevation. The larger hulls allowed 15 torpedo tubes in three quintuple mounts. During 1943/44, the AA gunnery was improved and radar was fitted.

She was sunk in the Philippines in November, 1944.

tl;dr - the Pacific is a gigantic graveyard.

>>11342535
The eighteen Kagerō class (陽炎, "Heat Haze") were commissioned between November 1939 and July 1941 - Kagero, Shiranui, Kuroshio, Oyashio, Hayashio, Natsushio, Hatsukaze, Yukikaze, Amatsukaze, Tokitsukaze, Urakaze, Isokaze, Hamakaze, Tanikaze, Nowaki, Arashi, Hagikaze, Maikaze, Akigumo. In 1937, Japan withdrew from the London Naval Treaty and the Kagerōs were designed free of these restrictions, utilising experience drawn from previous classes. Ships of the class screened the force that attacked at Pearl Harbor. They were also present in the Philippines, Midway and the Dutch East Indies.

Yukikaze survived the war.

Shimakaze (島風, "Island Wind"), the sole member of its class, was commissioned in May 1943. It was an experimental design. Within a significantly larger hull that displaced 2,600 tons, a new turbine design gave 50% more power than earlier designs and enabled trials speeds of over 40 knots (74 km/h, 46 mph). The standard six five-inch guns were retained but in Type D turrets with greater elevation. The larger hulls allowed 15 torpedo tubes in three quintuple mounts. During 1943/44, the AA gunnery was improved and radar was fitted.

She was sunk in the Philippines in November, 1944.

tl;dr - the Pacific is a gigantic graveyard.

>>11342535
The eighteen Kagerō class (陽炎, "Heat Haze") were commissioned between November 1939 and July 1941 - Kagero, Shiranui, Kuroshio, Oyashio, Hayashio, Natsushio, Hatsukaze, Yukikaze, Amatsukaze, Tokitsukaze, Urakaze, Isokaze, Hamakaze, Tanikaze, Nowaki, Arashi, Hagikaze, Maikaze, and Akigumo. In 1937, Japan withdrew from the London Naval Treaty and the Kagerōs were designed free of these restrictions, utilising experience drawn from previous classes. Ships of the class screened the force that attacked at Pearl Harbor. They were also present in the Philippines, Midway and the Dutch East Indies.

Yukikaze survived the war.

Shimakaze (島風, "Island Wind"), the sole member of its class, was commissioned in May 1943. It was an experimental design. Within a significantly larger hull that displaced 2,600 tons, a new turbine design gave 50% more power than earlier designs and enabled trials speeds of over 40 knots (74 km/h, 46 mph). The standard six five-inch guns were retained but in Type D turrets with greater elevation. The larger hulls allowed 15 torpedo tubes in three quintuple mounts. During 1943/44, the AA gunnery was improved and radar was fitted.

She was sunk in the Philippines in November, 1944.

tl;dr - the Pacific is a gigantic graveyard.

I really really love how these historical facts are nicely implemented on each ship's design, dialogs and ability in this game.
Much props to the developer, very well done.

>>11342541
>>11342535
>>11342533
;_;7

>>11342541
Ironbottom Sound alone contains 40+ sunken ships, 14 of them belonging to the IJN

What would you expect from upcoming Kancolle x Arpeggio collaboration? I think there'll be I-401 with Iona as a girl, complete with the voice actor.

>>11342535
>be Shigure
>was identified as the lead ship of the class (instead of Shiratsuyu)
>was made to survive the most horrifying battles
>was torpedoed by a submarine while escorting a convoy
>sank very slowly, allowing most of the crew to survive
I want to hug her.

>>11342553
Over here we had Myoko and Haguro as the largest of the sunken IJN ships, though the most important ships that went down in our waters was the PoW and Repulse.

I've fed her spare cruisers, light and heavy, and a small pile of spare destroyers. All that armor will be lost in time, like tears in rain.

Time to remodel.

I've fed her spare cruisers, light and heavy, and a small pile of spare destroyers. All that armor will be lost in time, like tears in rain.

Time to remodel.

>>11342558
Here we have Musashi as the largest sunken IJN ship. We also have Shimakaze, Maya, Yamashiro, Zuikaku, Chitose, Zuiho plus numerous others in and near our waters

>>11342553
Midway, archery club's graveyard.

>>11342574
Pinoy, I assume?

>>11342575
I'm trying to get Shigure to level 20 myself.

Planes planes... What's up with their colors and which planes should I use for E-1

>>11342589
Green - fighters
Red - regular bombers
Blue - torp bombers, I assume they're meant for the pre-battle phase

I just finished the Ise/Hyuga formation quest using standard Ise and upgraded Hyuga.

>>11342574

As for Musashi, insiders at nicolive confirmed that they are already working on her. She has twintail hair.

Current event released its Yamato reward in 8th this month, the day she was officially launched on 74 years ago.
Musashi's official launch was 1st Nov, So we can expect her launch event around late October.

>>11342586
Yes. And I just read that there are 800+ ships both allied and Japanese sunk in and around our waters during WWII though most of them were transports.
Oh well just something I looked up while waiting for my battleships to get repaired.

The wiki says it prevents the ship from sinking only once. Will the item disappear after that ?

Why do people say 400/30/600/30 is standard for battleships and then complain not getting any ? From the wiki it's more like 400/400/800/100, I got 3 battleships and 1 heavy cruiser from that.

>>11342623
400/30/600/30 is the cheapest, not the standard. I've gotten Nagato and Mutsu from that, but none of the Kongous.

>>11342623
It's the cheapest and got Kirishima, Fuso and Ise using that.
It's just a matter of luck I guess

>>11342639
Finally! Now if I could only find any of her sisters. Grinding 2-2 all day...

Finally! Now if I could only find any of her sisters. Grinding 2-2 all day...

>>11342679
How long did it even take to get Hiei to a level where she could remodel, and which level is it (is there a resource for this one the wiki?)

What is the good recipe for equipments, other than standard 30/30/30/30 ?

>>11342682
I didn't check for a few levels, but I think it unlocked at 22. Remodeled at 23.

>>11342682
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/%3F%25B2%25FE%25C2%25A4&usg=ALkJrhinws4Z6Jory3qNotDREHGlCTjmLw

>>11342683
I have no idea how reliable is this.
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/%3F%25B3%25AB%25C8%25AF&usg=ALkJrhhiqFAD2yjnh-SYCtnlaMNrdjnH-g

God damn it, this is a browser game that allows you to work while you wait right? Then why have I spent the whole day playing this?

>>11342685
Powerlevel for a few days or so, until your flagships take like, five hours to repair. Pretend you're saving a thousand buckets for the next event and don't use them. Problem solved.

>>11342685
>that allows you to work while you wait right?
hahaha, NO, because the waiting times are inconsistent and the exercises take lots of time even though it doesn't look like it first

>>11342693
>the waiting times are inconsistent and the exercises take lots of time
Carriers, Battleships and ships of higher level take some time to repair. Expedition can take sometime to if you choose the long ones.

>>11342696
At the start it's a big time waste because of leveling up cruisers and destroyers for expeditions. The doing nothing comes later when you don't have resources or enough good ships for exercises.

>>11342685
Oh, so commander level & flagship also affect the result? That's news for me.

I swear that the enemies crit Maguro on purpose because they like to hear her scream.

>>11342723
Only for equipments so I've heard. As I said, I suspect the reliability of the results, it's too specific.

>>11342723
That's why some of you guys got CV/BBs early and went oom.

>>11342729
There's like a thousand people testing this shit.

Leveling sub-chan is scary. She gets hit all the time and always ends up in the red.

do we have some hint as FinalBoss control on E1 ?
I knew I should have gave shit about it earlier...

>>11342734
Apparently flagships are unsinkable but I'm too afraid to try.

>>11342763
I can confirm it's unsinkable, for now, till next update on Monday, JST.

What the hell. I've been trying to get to 2-2 all day long, either the compass sends me the wrong way, or I got to the boss of 2-2, but not getting anything more than a heavy cruiser.

Is there a way to make sure that something like Kongou drops at 2-2?

Finally got Chitose, my first seaplane carrier. Kinda strange since I got her after Kaga and Junyou.

There are missions that specifically states 'seaplane carrier', right?

>>11342763
Just get an extra destroyer and test it out.

how does E-1 is completed ? I got you need to empty the bar, the do you have to kill the enemy flagship too - if so, is it necessary to kill it when bar's empty, or anytime if fine ? once done, what guarantees subchan ?

what's with the items that cost 2000+, do they need a specific item to be bought in addition to the required fonts?

What is the success rate of feeding ships? I got multiple times already that when I fed a ship a stat that should increase didn't increase.

>>11342849
There's some math, but basically don't feed only one ship, and you need actual plus points. Fatigue is also failure factor.
I have decided myself to feed at least three effective ships every time, never fail since then.

>>11342886
Just fed her 4 destroyers (I guess the type of ship also affects success) which should have resulted in +4 torpedo power and +1 armor but in the end I got nothing.

guess I had bad luck then.

>>11342900
Maybe you reached the stat cap?

>>11342810
I mistakenly thought that you just had to deplete the gauge and have killed the flagship at some point, but nope, you have to empty it and then kill the flagship. (I had the gauge at less than a pixel apparently on E-2, ran it one more time and then failed to kill the flagship for the only time, ended up being forced to run it again).

>>11342849
If you feed at least +2 you're guaranteed of getting at least +1, if you feed +1s you can fail completely.

>>11342789
There's like one fleet composition mission for a seaplane carrier. That's funny, I also got Junyou and Kaga as my first two carriers.

>>11342853
Fucking everyone is getting Zuihou except me ;_;

>>11342547
Yes, I'm constantly hitting wikipedia to look up references

>>11342517
Pic related, my light cruisers' faces when they reached the battle before the boss.

>>11342900
Did it actually say +4 and +1 on the final confirmation screen? If you're at the stat cap it won't say anything (although it also won't show anything being added on the stats before that, I'd figure that would be noticed at least). I have never failed with anything at least +2, I always get at least 50% of the potential stat gain (sometimes rounded down).

>>11342853
What's the deal with Zuiho? I remember the Beginner's Guide on the wiki specially talking about her too but..

For 2 weeks now, I have been trying day and night to build or drop Kongou. I think she just hates me, /jp/. I'm not worthy of being her Admiral...

>>11342909
Yep, it said so on the final screen to.

>>11342906
Ah that's good to know.

>>11342904
Might be but find it hard to believe I would a hit non-torpedo stat cap so early, unless there is a overall stat cap (for all stats combined) as I do have a lot of added torpedo points on that ship.

>>11342914
Drink more tea.

>>11342914
Randomly built her yesterday on a 400/30/700/30 craft, when aiming for the tier 5 battleships.

>>11342914
She dropped on E-1 for me.

>>11342920 (me]
>>11342917
But I drink a liter of tea a day, that must be why I got her so early in the game.

>>11342928
Speaking of E-1, how important are LCs/depth charges/sonars for the whole map?

I kinda want to try it out with my current fleet but I don't have Isuzu close to level 20 yet.

>>11342917
>>11342932
Understood, I'll start today!
>>11342920
I see an awful lot of people who have her when I do training excersises, makes me really jealous.
>>11342928
I'm level 20 now with most of my battleships 12-24. Not sure if I should risk it and go there.

>>11342936
Unlike other E maps, E1's boss herself is submarine.
You need LC or DDs with decent anti sub equipments or specialists like Isuzu, Yura.

>>11342936
You won't do any significant damage to the submarine boss without depth charges and an anti-sub formation. A high anti-sub stat (water-drop symbol) is a must.

>>11342936
It's really important, you need around 50 in anti-sub stat for you to kill the subs. You don't really need to level Isuzu to 20 since she already has 50 once you remodeled her at 12.
It's Yura you need to reach lvl 20 since that's when you can remodel her.

Here's my fleet I used for E-1: >>11339260

>>11342948
You'd be fine, most of the enemies are destroyers and subs. They're no match for the BBs as long you don't enter night battle.

FUUUUUUUUUCK
jauge's empty, boss fleet was fully down, but the boss itself was left at 2 hp...
why do you do that to me, event, why ?

>>11342952
>>11342957

Alright, I already have Hibiki and Yubari at mid-20s, I'll try to at least remodel Isuzu and get a couple more depth charges and see how far I go.

Should I still bring ACs with me? I get the feeling that night battles would be inevitable and I don't want Akagi to be much more dead weight than she already is

>>11342958
So I'm fine just with 4 BB's, Kaga and Kitakami?

Oh yeah, and what exactly are the "yellow" guns I get on my BBs by default? 15.2 or something. Should I just replace them with 20.3 guns (all 35/41 cm guns already distributed)

Please help /jp/, i've been farming her for so long now, i'm level 22, 2-4 cleared, but I still haven't unlocked the 3rd fleet, i've drop dozens of duplicate of the other girls but I can't find her at all.

Is there a good craft other than 30/30/30/30 that I could try for her? or a good farming location? I really need that 3rd fleet since i'm constantly running low on ressources since I can't farm properly.

>>11342971
Just spam 30/30/30/30 during the daily quest on building 3 ships. I got her quite early at level 10 and still at 2-1.

>>11342971
It's all luck sadly.
At least you managed to pass 2-4.
An impossible thing for me and many others.

>>11342970
You won't be able to kill subs with that composition.
That's fine if you're only doing E-1-1.

>>11342965
They're useful in taking hits and killing grunts that would otherwise hurt your more fragile ships. You shouldn't need to go into night battle to win every encounter if you do enough damage.

>>11342971
Goddamn, I had a feeling that quest was for fleet 3. Guess I'll start spamming 30/30/30/30 because I need her as well.

>>11342914
>>11342769
Yup. Just sent a single level 1 destroyer out on 2-4 several times, without repairing, going into night battles, etc. Everything would simply miss her. What's more, even if she didn't sink anything and got D ranks, she still got 630 EXP per node. This is extremely abusable, haha.

>>11342988
Your win ratio goes down though and then you cant do the events.

>>11342971
Not him.
Fuck I fed one of them to a ship not an hour ago ;_;. If only I knew.

>>11342988
Can imagine the repair costs would be murderous is you tried to powerlevel an CA or higher after a while.

>>11342971
If you have some resource to spend, try 250/30/200/30.
Sendai is reported 147 times out of 5085 reports, or 2.89% in this chart.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtDrYuxGy6JddGFQUE5adkNlSjdLbXJpaHRPSV8zUmc#gid=1

>>11342962
got it to 1 again.
yura was in red but I felt some luck and got into night battle.
all miss.
yura died.
fuck this shit ;-;

>>11342965
Where does everyone get their Yubaris from? I want her.

>>11342997
No ;_;
Please dont treat your ships like that

Is there an english wiki for that game or only the jap one?

>>11342991
That's only a problem if you actually want to do them, though.
>>11342993
I've sent her out with just 1 HP, still could not be sunk. Best way to do this is to simply not repair at all, only resupply.

>>11343002
Someone should really consider making an English one coz im so fucked up translating japanese using online translators

>>11342988
>>11343007
(Disclaimer: Do this at your own risk. I may have gotten good results but who knows if this is 100% and as said before, they'll be fixing it eventually.)

>>11343008
I find Rikai-chan more helpful in navigating the Japanese wikis.

>>11342997
.. how.. how do I stop crying, /jp/ ? I thought she was just a strong antisub, a tool for E1 completion, and get the cute sub-chan.

But now, I understand I was really attached to her. much more than I'll be to sub-chan.. not even sure I want her anymore now, she represent my yura's end.

>>11343048
Stay strong, admiral.

Don't let her death be in vain, make sure you get back at those fuckers and claim your just rewards.

In other news, does anybody know when do the friendly matches reset? 1-1-A is driving me insane

>>11343048
You could draw a greyscale portrait of her in paint and burn some incense while clapping and ringing a bicycle bell.

I have a fleet composed of a seaplane carrier, one battleship, three heavy cruisers, and a light aircraft carrier. Will this be able to complete E-1, /jp/?

>>11343092
Read the thread.

>>11342912
pls respond

>>11343059
>know when do the friendly matches reset?
Around 4-5am japan time. Then a second time around 6-7 hours later (when I wake up there are new match available)

>>11343108
I got mine early on so I can't really remember which map did I exactly get her. I guess you could try to spam 250/30/200/30 for her.

Caught me completely off guard there with more servers on a Saturday. I wonder if they do Sundays as well or if they actually take a day off from work.