/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>11295641
ZUN never promised you a game in the first place. Enjoy being a side character forever

WaHH does not constitute "abandonment". The fans sure love Kasen too.

>>11295641
Kasen loves Reimu!

after seeing the new characters, I'm glad she isn't in the game, she wouldn't fit at all.
She still got her manga so it's alright

>>11295725
There still is the possibility of her appearing in a future patch of HM.

I WANT TO BELIEVE

>>11297190
but...HM is bad. Not even the music is redeemable.

>>11301899
Miko's theme is awesome and Mamizou has a great theme too. All the other music is pretty meh though.

>>11301899
I don't really think there's anything wrong with the music; it's about the same as the previous fighting games. Some originals get a good arrange and others have to do with a decent one, and the new tracks are all good in their own right.

I do think they kinda butchered Futo's theme though.

>>11301912
These two were made by ZUN because he was still ashamed of how bad they were in their original game. But that's it.

>>11295641
Because tsundere a shit

>>11301950
Akiyama made Miko's theme for HM.

>>11295641
>Why did ZUN abandon me?

You aren't the only one!

I love Kasen!

>>11306298
Everyone does. She's the best newhu in years.

>>11301963
>tsundere
>kasen
what.

>>11295725
Raiko looks like her. In fact I thought it was her for a second.

>>11306317
new? She never made an official appearance in any of the games yet. Once she has a theme and some spellcards, she'll finally be complete.
I really look forward to her theme, wonder if it's similar to Rumble Temple or her Pocket Wars' theme

>>11306298
I love Kasen's legs!

>>11307040
they're too close to each other.

Isn't WaHH still going on? How do you consider this abandonment of the character?

Compare it to the PC98 characters, who all basically got the shaft outside of Alice, and will probably never be used in any official material ever again.

>>11306414
You didn't immediately notice the lack of hair buns!?

>>11307040
file-name made me giggle more than it should have
also, wasn't there and even larger, more recent version?

>>11307946
The chapter releases are much slower now, in favour of FS.

>>11307972
It has always been every other month.

>>11307972
But aren't they in different magazines?

>>11307960
There's bound to be, there's a lot more of those kind of panels.

Kasen will be abandoned once WAHH is over. Knowing ZUN's usual writing skills, the ending will not be great in any way and people are just left wondering why Kasen is gone now.

>>11307987
Judging by all the other mangas it'll probably end with Kasen revealing herself to be an oni, then Reimu saying she already knew and then yadda yadda tea party.

To find out whether or not Kasen is an oni, all you really have to do is ask.
Oni can't lie, after all.

I don't think she has THAT much to lose by revealing herself though, why else would she risk it by going to visit Yuugi underground? Suika is a bro though, keeping quiet and all.

I dont mind having another Touhou fighting similar to soku. Most characters are in good use in Saltybets now.

>>11308026
>To find out whether or not Kasen is an oni, all you really have to do is ask.
Oni can't lie, after all.
Yes they can, Kasen has lied plenty of times and hidden stuff like whenever she was acting suspicious and Reimu asked what was going on and she goes all ''n-n-nothing!''.

Also I think Suika has lied.

>>11308056
I'm not so sure, has Kasen ever flat-out lied?
I wouldn't know about Suika, it's been a while since I played any of the games she's in.

>>11308056
Yeah, I think the reason her "bring onis back to gensokyo" plan failed was because she was somewhat dishonest or something, I can't remember.

>>11308043
Good lord.

>>11308026
>Oni can't lie

>Oh, this box? I got this from a friend who lives in a distant place

>>11308448
How is that a lie?

>>11308456
Old Hell is just one trip down the rabbit hole

>>11308465
I'm under the impression that most Gensokyo inhabitants would consider it remote, at least, even if not "distant".

Anyway, at best she's dodging the question. It's not what I'd call a lie.

Has Ch.18 been scanned yet?

Ibaraki of the Four Oni Devas of Youkai Mountain finally reveals herself.

>>11307987
>Kasen will be abandoned once WAHH is over
To think that CoLA ended years ago, and guess who's back?

>>11309372
>back
Whooaa, a small cameo on the background of a stage in a spinoff game, such a comeback.

So, was the latest chapter ever scanned? I want to see Miko.

>>11311706
It sure did. We have whatever got posted on Futaba, which is a lot.

There may also be a translation available already, I guess it's time to go check TVTropes. And if you only care about the pretty pictures, the Chinese are always really fast with their own scanlations, you can find them if you google a bit.

>>11311799
good god azuma aya keeps getting worse.

>>11311811
I normally like her art but what the hell happened here, it's an abomination

>>11311799
I think i'd rather want Harukawa to draw Miko...

>>11295641

It's okay Kasen *hugs*
you're one of the good ones you like humans right?

it'll be okay you can join Suika too ;_; FUCK ZUN

>>11311811
>>11311844
I normally like her art but this looks quite bad
I think she might be trying to move on from her "sketchy" style but hasn't quite gotten a hang of how to make cleaner art yet.

I don't see why she would though, I liked her art the way it was. Maybe she's getting self-conscious or has gotten negative feedback.

>>11311799
Or you could maybe post what you've got?
...Pretty please? I'd highly prefer Japanese scans anyway, Touhou manga has furigana after all.

>>11311850
reported.

>>11311869
>>11311799
post the page with Kasen cheering on Reimu.

While we're at it, I don't quite understand who all those uniformly-clothed people in Shinreibyou are and where did they come from.

>>11311885
They're most likely Miko's students, and by students I mean servants. Read SoPM for more info.

Human basically flock to her hoping to become immortal, kinda like youkai flock to Byakuren hoping to get protected and stuff.

>>11311897
Oh yeah I remember SoPM (or TD? or both) saying Miko is a selfish bitch who takes advantage of others, Reimu calls her out on it too in HM.

I mean, that's a fuckton of them.

>>11311869
Sure. Or you could just go to http://yakumo-family.com/fudat/36aba14f527a2c502b10d99ad987cfbe/ for the archived futaba thread.

it happened again.

>>11311885
Bottom right makes it look like Miko and Kasen are very small. Panel next to it is Miko's "Are you a wizard?" face.

>>11311906
In this page Miko seems to be saying that she's taking on students for their sake and not her own, and she was not planning too originally. Kasen was asking about it, kinda like you guys, and why there's so many of them.

>http://yakumo-family.com/fudat/36aba14f527a2c502b10d99ad987cfbe/
Thanks. I should visit futuba more often...

>>11311897
If they're all newly-acquired in Gensokyo, it'd make the human "village" even bigger than I thought it was. I mean, hundreds of people suddenly dropping their lives to join a cult? It'd break things unless Gensokyoan humans' total population is a few orders of magnitude bigger. We're talking about tens of thousands here.

>>11311918
...Marisa is wearing her HM outfit?

>>11311902
>Selfish bitch

I don't think that's the right term for that. Cause you know, being a politician is a way different level of selfishness than being a bitch.

>>11311940
Well that's what it describes her as, Reimu also calls her the word ''selfish''.

>>11311946
I don't think there's HUNDREDS of them. (unless it's mentioned somewhere?) But yeah, I get what you mean too? Maybe there are more humans in Gensokyo than we thought. But then again in >>11311918 Marisa says that there appears to be some kind of boom in Gensokyo in the popularity of these things.

Maybe it's just very very trendy right now to just drop whatever you're doing and study to become a hermit? Like, maybe even a majority of the younger humans were affected in some way. And then when the boom ends 99% of them will go back to their ordinary lives.

d'aww.

>>11311964
at that moment Reimu's popularity/faith bar rose off the charts.

>>11311989
Thats a funny reaciton image face..
Do you mind if im saving it.

>>11311964
>REIMUUU
>YOU'VE GOT ME BY YOUR SIDE
>DON'T LOOOSE
>reimu's face when

>>11311964
What does that flower background behind Reimu mean?

>>11311963
It looks like hundreds both in the manga and her HM stage's background. At least in the manga they look young.

>>11311933
God, I feel so stupid right now. Figures I should have bothered to actually read things.

>>11311906
What are they going crazy about?

>>11311998
She wants the D

>>11311964
I want to be cheered by Kasen

end.

>>11312038
Remember when Kasen was in HM, watched the fights and cheered on Reimu and it was really cute and...oh wait...

>I don't get it either
>why would you pretend to be a hermit?
So... um, it's 100% confirmed now?

>>11312074
stop posting that.

>>11312085
wouldn't it be hilarious for ZUN to pull some bullshit at the end and show that she's actually not an oni like everyone thinks?

>>11312090
Isn't that like a shocking twist? All of your theories are down the drain. Isn't that a good thing?

>>11312101
can't tell if you're being sarcastic

>>11312101
No, that's generally a bad thing unless it's actually foreshadowed.

eg: zetsubou sensei's ending is a good twist.

m. night shamalamadingdong movies don't have good twists most of the time.

>>11312109
Sarcastic aside, Isn't it a good twist that it plays with your expectations and ended up differently?

>>11312116
I guess it could go both ways...
In the case of Kasen, it would be disappointing. Not really because of whether or not the end would cater to my expectations but because her actually being an oni posing as a hermit makes for a very interesting story and I thought a lot about during the duration of the manga. It makes me want to know more about her and her backstory, and I consider that to be a very good thing.

Does this mean WaHH will end soon? God I hope not.

>>11312116
At this point it would feel ham-fisted as fuck. I think he's holding off the revelation for a reason, but even I'm pretty sure she is Oni and the third deva, and I know ZUN is quite the trickster. Too much effort and setup to the real Ibaraki-douji for it just to go down the "TRICKED XDDD" route. What would even be the point? It wouldn't be satisfying and I wouldn't even be surprised, just disappointed.

>>11312116
ZUN can't pull that off in any good way. I am very sure of that. Not with the way the story sets every flag on oni and his writing skills.

>http://yakumo-family.com/fudat/36aba14f527a2c502b10d99ad987cfbe/
Why do I feel as if the entire reason this chapter exists is because Kasen was planned for HM but didn't make it? That would also explain why she's not in the backgrounds anywhere like >>11312074 implies.

This makes me sad.

>>11312231
Maybe she'll be a patch character?

>>11312231
Kasen was planned for the game but had to be cut due to time constraints.

I am waiting for that line. It will happen.

>>11312255
It took them 3 months to just add Kokoro who should have been in the game from the very start. By the time Kasen would be finished, 4chan will already be dead.

>>11312255
>>11312259
I want to believe too, but...

About that, are you guys still waiting for Mokou and Kaguya too? Just wondering...

>>11312280
Any day now. They just need to finish balancing Mokou a bit.

>>11312086

>>11311964
shit nigga that is cute.

>>11312259
Manga characters don't get to be playable.

>>11314363
But they can make appearances like the fairies in GFW.

>>11312352
stop.

>>11312197

I wouldn't mind, I'm sure we'll get something new if it does. When Sangetsusei ended I was really sad but FS and WaHH really made up for it.

Who cares about non-loli, non-game Touhous? She's as pointless as the moon bitches from Silent Sinner in Blue.

>>11316087
look at this pleb.

>>11316087
You are a fucking homo, nobody cares about your opinion.

>>11316091
>>11316093
Touhou wouldn't have any notoriety if it weren't for the fact that it was filled with little girls and now that he got public notice he is abandoning his fan base to make generic shonen manga. Look how bad the recent game is as proof. ZUN is a total sell-out.

>>11316108
>now that he got public notice
>now
Touhou has been the most popular thing in Japan for ages, it has the highest tag count on Pixiv and Nico.
>generic shounen manga
That he's been doing since a fucking decade ago and aren't shounen at all since there's barely any battles or powerlevels or any of that shit.
>sell out
A game that he sells 3 copies of and lets people distribute on the internet as well as make money off his characters and music, sure thing.

>>11316108

>to make generic shonen manga

I fucking wish.

>>11316108
As much as I want Touhou to be just a simple shooting games, It seems what ZUN want at this point is to recreating his own Japanese mythology. That's why he starts explaining a lot of things in print works and manga, adding more complex plot to his games and even adding personalities to 2hus.