/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I really wanted one for a long time but i'll do it when I have a job so I can actually pay for one.

just buy a normal table weebs hory shit

>>11304531
maybe I don't WANT a normal table.

>>11304531
Yes, because obviously there's no difference. At all. not anything like a FUCKING HEATER AND BLANKET.
Nope, just buy a good old fashioned American table because fuck, wanting a product from Japan that you think would be useful and save you money on your heating bill is just fucking stupid.

>>11304520
Just put a blanket over a table and put a toaster under it. That's what the truNEETs in Nippon do.

>>11304543
I think that's how you commit arson suicide.

I'm way too white to be in that hot of an environment. I have a hard time making everything as cold as possible.

>>11304517
Are you gay?

>>11304538
>save money on heating bill
>sitting at a table all day like a porch monkey
Choose one.

>>11304552
Bisexual.
So suck it.
Like, really.

So why not just throw a headed blanket over your desk?

Why not just live in your oven?

>>11304559
heated*

I can't imagine what you'd do at a table all day
in anime they seem to talk to their friends/family and eat rice cracker things

>>11304569
I'm not Jewish.

>>11304572
you're on a computer right now, pretty sure people do a lot of sitting around these days.

>>11304569
>>11304574

>>11304517
I built my own, and combined it with my bed so I could sleep under it. My apartment is really drafty, so its great for cold winter nights. During the summer I remove the blanket and just sleep under the table. It took me around 4 hours to make with hand tools, and less then $30 in materials minus the futon on which I sleep. I had the blanket though, so say $50 bucks to make your own.

>>11304597
I kind of want a picture so I can try and make that.

Welcome, new user to /jp/ - Japan/General! Hah, just kidding, this isn't Japan/General. This is Touhou/Visual Novels/Doujin Games.

If you want to discuss the different places you can visit in Japan, I suggest you go to /trv/ (though they also seem to hate Japan there, so don't annoy them too much). If you want to discuss the Japanese language, go to /lang/ (yes, 4chan has text boards!). If you want to discuss anime and manga, go to /a/ (some series that are based on light novels/VNs/games like Marimite and Higurashi can also be discussed in /jp/, it really depends, so lurk a bit to see what's acceptable). Finally, if you want to talk about Japanese history and culture, go somewhere else, nobody here knows or cares for that stuff.

/jp/ was created as a board to get rid of Touhou and visual novels from /a/, it was never intended to be a board about Japanese culture. Most of the users here don't care about Japan, we only care about lolis and doujin games.

>>11304629
This is the best and most accurate thing I've read all week. So many points to you.

Why not just date me? We can cuddle all the time and keep each other warm.

>>11304602
>>11304602
I have the autocad files I made at work, but I can try and describe it to you. I took two "counter tops" which are made of veneer covered particle board, and mated them together with a 1x8 on the base, I used a mix of wood glue, clamps and screws to hold this together. Because they have a lip, I then cut a piece of meanine board to fit in the center slot, and set the blanket in that and placed the bard on top of it. I then slit a piece of rubber and glued it to the edges of each board, because nobody wants a bed with sharp edges. I then cut a 4x4 into 4 equal pieces, each one 18 inches long, and using a hand drill, drilled pre holes so the wood would not split. I then mounted the legs on with 5 screws each, one in the middle, and 4 angle screws. Keep a level handy with a file, so it looks nice. I then added 3 of those soft pads to each of the legs. I sanded and varnished the untreated wood prior to adding it, the sanded it again, so it looked really nice. The one thing I wish I did was make it easier to take apart when I move. Thing ways a ton, and is solid as a rock.

Shoot if you have any questions, it is about 50" long and 38" wide, and my futon is about 30' wide. I have a small slab of foam I keep underneath it to keep me off the wood floor.

I would like to take a picture, but my roommates crackwhore girlfriend stole my camera when he moved out. Along with a couple of laptop charger cables and some headphones. Who the fuck steals power cables?

http://www.amazon.com/Traditional-Japanese-Futon-Mattresses-Meditaion/dp/B003VQVZP4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1376450084&sr=8-1&keywords=japanese+futons

Are these any good?

>>11304634
It's stale copypasta, newfriend. It's written by a 16 year old closet weeaboo in heavy denial.

>>11304635
I might just take you up on that.

>>11304679
Your chance of ackward stds is high.

Anyone know where I can buy these kinds of chairs? I've been looking to do something like a kotatsu set up in my apartment, but all I have now is a coffee table that's too short for my chair. It's workable, but really not good ergonomically.
If I could find a chair that sits on the floor like this, I could at least cut the coffee table legs down a tiny bit and that would work perfectly.

Do these kinds of chairs go by a certain name or something?

>>11304517

>>11304653
Weebs, check this out. It's a really great site and they have TONS of stuff.

http://www.orientalfurniture.com/

>>11304733
wow, its like you think we have money.

>>11304705
Floor chair, ground chair, legless chair, what have you. Seems no real name.

Don't fall asleep!

>>11304754
Not everyone here is a lazy NEET.

truOtaku need money to support their obsessions.

>>11304784
Don't make shit up to include yourself you disgusting normie

>>11304795
You really hurt my feelings with that post ;_;

>>11304765
What's wrong with falling asleep?

one of my hobbies is carpentry. I would like to make one.

>>11304873
Can you make me one?

i bought a kotatsu heater and built one myself last winter. feels so good sitting around it with friends while watching anime and eating tangerines.

>>11304873
>>11304883
me too please

>>11304873
Can you make me a house

>>11304597
Sleeping under a katatsu will give you colds

>>11304873
You could sell them to weabby kids and make some good money.

>>11304755
zaisu

Which one of you did this?

>>>/v/204867236

>>11305006
I've thought about it as they're really easy to make. The problem is you need a special kind of heater to do it and they are quite expensive to import. Also to use good wood, then take the time staining it and stuff is pricey and very time consuming. After I built mine I figured I'd build some for friends if they paid for materials and bought me dinner and whiskey, but trying to produce them at a rate to sell them would be hell without access to a wood shop.

To give you an example of price
600w heater - ~$90ish after import
wood stain/ polygloss finish ~ $20
hardwood table top ~$55
wood for legs and framing ~$30

then if you have a power saw and drill it takes about 3hrs to cut and fit all the pieces, then around another 8-12hrs for sanding and staining, then you have about 60+hrs drying time.

All in all though, if you like working with your hands, its probably the best thing you can build. I love the hell out of mine.

>>11305049
You

>>11305052
oh and i forgot to add another $20+ for screws and fasteners. also the price for the framing didnt include the legs. If you want actual table legs those run like $8+ each

I think by the end of it I spent around $220 and about 25hrs not including dry time. That being said I custom made mine and its very large as far as kotatsu's are concerned and was able to seat about 6 people quite comfortably. It was also well worth it.

>>11305066
Nope.

>>11304642
>when he moved out
>whore girlfriend

>>11305049
me

>>11305146
nope>>11305077
who

>>11305069
So... if I was willing to pay the cost of the materials and maybe some more to cover your 25 hours of labor... you'd be willing to make me one?

>>11305158
Id consider it depending on what size/heater and other stuff you want. However where do you live? Shipping something like that would be almost prohibitively expensive.

You don't need to be a master carpenter to do it though. I find my plans, scan them and email you directions and stuff if you wanted.

>>11305164
I wouldn't need anything large. I might have a guest over maybe once a year, but otherwise content with just a small coffee table for my own uses.
I'm in the Pacific Northwest. Portland, OR area.

Plans may be interesting to look at, but I wouldn't want to make you go through the trouble for something I may not even use.

>>11305179
trust me you'd use it. When i built mine i was worried it would be a bit of a novelty, however after me and some friends tested it out my apartment was the only place anyone wanted to hang out. They are actually that cozy.

When i said mine was huge, the average kotatsu you can find online is like 29.5x29.5in. Mine is like 41.5x58in or something like that. IMO 29.5 is kinda small unless you're a tiny asian person, however something around 36x36 would be more comfortable. Also cheaper since i belive you can get hardwood plywood in 4'x4' cutouts for less than the one i had to use.

Unfortunately I live on the east coast and trying to mail something like that would be stupidly expensive. However, send me an email sometime in the next couple days and I'll try to find or redraw my plans for one and give you info on where i got my heater and stuff along with some instructions if you wanted to take it on. Its really easy work, just time consuming.

Also in the off seasons they make great coffee tables and are nice for low seating. I'm probably going to rebuild the frame of mine when I move again and reset it up for the winter. Theres alot I learned while building it so I could give you some personal suggestions about its build as well.

>>11305205
Great! Thank you for the information. As I think about it, working on something like this would be a good way to kill some time. Since I don't have an immediate use for it, I could work on it slowly as I found the proper tools/pieces for it.

Is it possible to remove the heater in the kotatsu (easily)? Maybe this is a standard thing that I never thought about, but if I had one I would most likely use it all year round after I've found some comfortable floor chairs (I'm also >>11304705).
Measuring out my coffee table, I actually think it's about 30" x 30" so anything that size and greater is perfectly fine for me.

I will send you an email probably tomorrow as I'm heading to sleep soon now. Thanks again.

>>11305320
no problem. ill answer any other questions you have in your email.

The heater does come out quite easialy as it just sort of drops in. However theres really no reason to remove it even in the summer. The plug for the heater can be removed so I just took the plug off (and be sure to put it in a place where you'll remember where to find it again), took the blanket off, and left it as it was.

>>11305320
>>11305205
30"x30" is perfect size for one person, (2 persons max).

I use a table that size and it's hard to fit 3 people, even when eating or doing simple desk work.

I was planning to do something like this as well when I'm in the USA by December since I'd live in Texas and my current hobbies are not viable in there. Maybe woodworking would be better.

Which types of wood would be great for a small table?

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

>>11306119
you're going to want a hardwood for the table top. Softwoods will dent and scratch too easily for anything that's going to be gettting alot of use. Lowes and Home Depot sell large sheets of poplar and maple hardwood plywood sheets. They work great for kotatsu table tops. I believe mine was poplar.

For the frame of the table, most things would work. I used red oak boards because hardwood is more sturdy hand has a very nice grain so it looks very esthetically pleasing once stained.

For the framing (the cross section that you secure the heater into) anything will work. I used pine 2x2 or 2x1 boards that i cut notches into so they fit together like lincoln logs.

>>11307001
Thanks for the answers.

I'm designing something complicated that would make a big table be transportable since my "work" doesn't stay too long in one place.

The most annoying part would be the heater element. You need to import one and then they need some sort of transformer because of the current they use.

I kind of made one, I have a little table and I unscrewed the top from it and put a thick blanket under it, I also put a little electrical heater I had under the table as well. It was so cozy!

>>11308044
No they don't. Japanese electricity is a bit lower power than in the us. Mine runs perfectly fine

>>11308345
I don't perfectly remember but it was stuff like this
http://www.japaninabox.jp/shop/sk-10e-voltage-step-down-transformer-110-130v-to-100v-1000w-usa-canada-kotatsu/
Which I thought was needed? I live in UK anyways so our mains is different and shipping such a unit is costs loads of money.

>>11304538
While you save money on your heating bill, say hello to the hike in your electricity bill. Electric heaters are usually awful in terms of power efficiency.

Can you even buy one in America? Where would they even sell one?

>>11308580
I see them for sale in sacramento and San Francisco.

My dad one in his room and it's kinda cool. I wish I had one for my PC so I can sit on the floor crosslegged/indian style. I can also lay down on the floor whenever I feel tired. Hmm, this is actually a good idea.

>>11304517
I made one for much cheaper than the ones you can order. It's also perfect sized for what I need. You dont need to run the heater all the time, just a few minutes and it stays warm. For the chair, I took the legs off of an office chair.

I'm pretty comfy.

>>11304517
NEET =/= No kotatsu
No money.

>>11308909
Also, penis.
>>11304517
Such things may be a fire code violation some places, or violate your landlord's lease shit. So if you wanna be all conscientious, check first. And don't leave it running. This also applies to space heaters left on under anything.

>>11308993
>Also, penis.
WHahahhaha Really got me. Honestly.

>>11308999
This is no laughing matter. NEETs are tired of not getting any.

>>11308999
Go to bed Kurosawa

>>11309198
You should still have a penis despite being a NEET.

>>11309198
It's just a matter of growing a pair.
>>11309364
How can you sleep when the Kitsune demand your head or a set of Korarsu for their wedding?!

I already have one although it's an improvised coffee table.

>>11309413

>>11309576
Ran! I-I didn't know you were bathing! F-Frogive me!!

whee, derp

Semi-related. Has anyone tried to make that bamboo thing that strikes rock and makes a clank sound when it's filled with water?

>>11309595
>bamboo thing that strikes rock and makes a clank sound when it's filled with water
wikipedia says:
>Sōzu is a type of water fountain used in Japanese gardens. It consists of a segmented tube, usually of bamboo, pivoted to one side of its balance point. At rest, its heavier end is down and resting against a rock. A trickle of water into the upper end of the tube accumulates and eventually moves the tube's centre of gravity past the pivot, causing the tube to rotate and dump out the water. The heavier end then falls back against the rock, making a sharp sound, and the cycle repeats. This noise is intended to startle any herbivores such as deer or boars which may be grazing on the plants in the garden.

>>11309595
>>11309606
It's called a deer scarer or deer chaser in English.

>>11309615
Its called a donk tube.

*donk*

It's worthless for you. You're supposed to sit at it with other people.

>>11310308
you're supposed to sit at it in general

OP, can you use your cellphone to take a couple of pictures of what it looks like without the skirt?

>>11312010
not op, but here's mine

I have a no seats one since I was a kid, because I'm from a Japanese family.
You won't ever leave it in Winter. Seriously. I have to use literally three extension cords to power my laptop over it (it has a gas heater, not an electric one), and I still go through the trouble of setting it up everyday (I have to remove the cords when I'm not using them because, you know, family)

I plan on buying one once I get a job and leave home.

>>11308745
I would like to see that one. Photos, please?
Or a link of what guide you used, if you did.

>>11304555
Don't you mean choose both?

floor level kotatsus are old school

>>11313566
looks like something you'd find in a reptoid's house

I used to have one back when I lived with my parents, but they had to get rid of it when they moved out.

>tfw no qt neet gf to give you footjob under heated table

>>11313587
I'd be afraid of my dick touching the heater.

desk style

BUT YOUR UPPER HALF IS STILL COLD

>>11313790
here u go

>>11313790
get more under it

I made one from an Ikea lack coffee table, a thick comforter, and heat pads.

Instead of installing the shelf at the bottom, I saved it and sandwiched the comforter between them. I then put the heat pads underneath the table and connected them to a surge strip. When I want to feel warm underneath it, I turn on the surge strip. It's easier than building your own table from scratch and it's much cheaper than importing the heater from Japan. It's also safer than using a toaster.

>>11317809
>using many small pieces of tape to hold the wire to the wall
Why not just use one long piece?

How about a reverse kotatsu? I mean, a kotatsu that makes it cold.

A kotatsu looks comfy as fuck

Using a laptop while sitting under a kotatsu just seems hella comfy

I guess getting a kotatsu is useless if your legs go numb after a few minutes of just sitting on the floor. Do the chairs help?

>>11318386
I would look better, and from that pic that is obviously not what he was going for

>>11318452
Losing some weight might.

>>11318475
That means I'd have to put effort into something. No thanks.

>>11318403
You mean a kotatsu without a blanket and the heater. That would be a table.

>11318452

It's just something you've got to get used to. A zaisu chair is all right if you need support for your back.

>Was it worth it?

Absolutely. One of the best things I ever got.

>>11318403
I would welcome this since I live in a country that is hot as fuck year round.

>11318608

I'm not sure how effective this would be, but you could get a gallon jug of water, freeze it, and put it underneath the table on a plate (or something to keep the condensation from falling onto the floor).

>>11318559
no no, a table that actively cools
like coolers underneath instead of heaters

I have one in my house but I've never used it.

>>11318403

There are antigridles for cooling things down in cooking, but I imagine it would be extremely inefficient indoors when used for temperature control.

>>11320481
Why would you want cold legs?

>>11320793
Because its 25c here at fucking midnight, the days are too hot to even run my computer sometimes.

>>11320799
Where do you live?

I live in the Philippines and it's pretty much the same, plus it's too humid as well that I get really sticky when I sweat.

I ctrl+f and there was no result for arthritis.
/jp/ you're not the same I once knew.

>>11304629
Nice kopipe!

Elevated kotatsu!