/jp/ - Otaku Culture

theres other ones than windows media player???

mpc for video and foobar2000 for audio.

>>11224940
Thread has ended peacefully.

>>11224915
No.

Just install ffdshow filters and use WMP. It looks good and that's 90% of the point of a media player. The people using MPC-HC or whatever just don't know what they're doing.

MPC with CCCP codec pack or Kawaii Codec Pack is the way to go..

http://www.cccp-project.net/
http://haruhichan.com/forum/showthread.php?7545-KCP-Kawaii-Codec-Pack

Why doesn't your OS just pull in the latest video codec libraries when you run an upgrade?

Is your package manager broken?

mpc - video, foobar2k - audio

Foobar2000 and CCCP master race.

I use mpc, mpv, and smplayer2 for video and foobar for audio. Yes, 3 video players are necessary.

Video: mplayer2 -vo gl_nosw

Audio: Deadbeef

Manga: Manga-meeya (even through wine it's still the best)

Most people use their internet browser for EVERYTHING and for all intensive purposes the only thing they even need a computer for is an internet browser.

>>11224910
windows media player for everything

>>11225491
>-vo gl_nosw

You realize xv is better, right?

Unless you're using a video card that XVideo doesn't support, which I really doubt.

>>11225505
I get unacceptable amounts of this very horrible tearing effect in one exact spot going across the top with that, and the subtitles look completely way more fucked up. It probably would be different if I was using free drivers which are geared toward more 2D xorg shit.

The hardware rendering mode fixes it perfectly though and definitely _is_ better in my case. Even if I didn't get tearing or messed up subs with xv, why would it be better than gl_nosw?

MPC-HC with CCCP for videos
foobar2000 for music

>>11224910
ask /g/

>>11225609

mplayer for video, mpd + ncmpcpp for music

>>11225633
omg u a hcker??

mplayer2 for video, xmplay for audio

>>11225639
yea i tru/prog/rider :DDDD

>>11225440
>>11225459
>>11225533

>codec packs

It's like I'm really in 2003!

Gosh I love cute threads.

itunes and vlc

mpc-hc and f2k

Windowsfriends complain that *nix is too old-fashioned.
They use intentionally "minimalist" or "retro-looking" software.

Love it when all those GNU/Linux crossboarders come out of the woodwork.

>>>/a/
>>>/g/

MPC-HC works fine for SHOUTcast and full album rips, so I don't bother with a separate audio player.

>foobar
Can I see your fedora collection?

>>11225840
wut do u use?

>>11225725
What's old fashioned about UNIX? OS X is as modern as you can get.

>>11225840
It works. It doesn't take much memory. It plays everything you throw at it. It has a functional design. In summary, it's the best audio player on Windows, and you're simply a moron with no technical understanding whatsoever.

>Audio
foobar2000

>Video
MPC-HC
Stereoscopic Player
WinDVD 11 Pro

>>11225826
>GNU/Linux

I literally have one piece of GNU software on my system right now. Don't you stereotype me. GNU software is shit.

winamp for mp3 foobar for flac big old codec pack for wmp for all those weird JAV file types!

>>11225707
I love you Ran!

>>11225891
What do you use then?

Sometimes I use VLC player if a video file won't play loud enough. DAE??

MPC-HC+MadVR+XySubFilter for video
Foobar2k for audio

>>11224940
>>11224956
why is this thread still alive

mplayer2 for video
clementine for audio

>>11225505
>You realize xv is better, right?
Not if you're using -vf-add scale=[insert long as fuck colon-separated list here] and -sws [2 or 7 with data on the scale list or 9 vanilla, most likely]. Oh, and gradfun. And yadif.

... gl is better if you're using filters, period.

>>11225878
ayahirano02.jpg
死ぬ

>>11227619
Nigga these aint even real options.

>>11225878

Linux is so impractical and also for nerds.

>>11227647
if you're a average user yeah most linux distros are impractical and a waste of time

>>11227647
Enjoy your virus, fragmentation, factory backdoors, and ignorance.

Also, you can use mplayer2 on windows too, and you'll have the absolute control over your output that linux users have too.

>>11227652
Enjoy being a useless nerd LMAO.

>Enjoy your virus, fragmentation, factory backdoors, and ignorance.
Take a look at this 1990 pc user lol.

>>11227652
Why use mplayer2 on windows when MPC-HC is superior in every possible way?
Why are you so arrogant to think most linux distributions are good for the average user?

>>11227656
I disagree.

MPC-HC has certain things that are better about but so does mplayer2.

>>11227655

Yeah, there are definitely no backdoors in 2013

mplayer2/gnome-mplayer (using mplayer2) depending on if I'm opening a file from the gui or cli

I used to use emacs for music, I've been learning vi and I like it more. I'm not sure what I'm going to use now but my distro has Audacious. Maybe I'll write a bash script that uses mplayer.

>>11227656
>Why use mplayer2 on windows when MPC-HC is superior in every possible way?
Because it isn't.
The only advantage that mpchc has over mplayer is xy-vsfilter. And the advantage is so minuscule over libass, it's pretty much irrelevant.

And before you mention madvr, that quality can be achieved with scale filters and sws 9, while taking less resources than what madvr takes on mpchc.

Seriously, once you get to know mplayer, it's a world of posibilities. Case in point:
http://linux.die.net/man/1/mplayer

>Why are you so arrogant to think most linux distributions are good for the average user?
I don't think MOST linux distros are good for the average user. But unless the user is an avid gamer that has his interests deposited on very hi-end 3D games, most popular linux distros (debian, suse, mandriva, ubuntu, etc) are more than good enough for the average user.

I can easily install and play all 2hus, watch cartoons and use Microsoft Office 2013 on pretty much any linux distro. That's what most average users want.

>>11227676
Exactly, just look at these options.

>>11227676
Shut up Richard Stallman, you will never corrupt this glorious board.

>>11227683
/jp/ is probably only behind /g/ and /prog/ in that regard.

>>11227689
I bet the 90% of the REAL /jp/sies are using windows, maybe a 70% using a pirated version of windows 7.

>>11227699
Windows is disgusting, outdated, locked-down, and makes a lot of things incredibly difficult, I can't go back to using it regardless of whether or not it's tru/jp/ OS.

>>11227709
>tru/jp/ OS
>not cirnOS

>>11227699
You can't even begin to imagine what
>REAL /jp/sies are using

>>11227709
How is it outdated or locked-down? You can run any program you want on it, more or less.

>>11227722
>You can run any program you want on it, more or less
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I remember teaching my fellow engineering students how to run DOSBox on windows to be able to run ASM compilers.

Windows 7 and 8 aren't even compatible with most stuff that was made for XP or down, unless you use third party compatibility layers - which is the same thing linux uses to run windows programs.

Though I can imagine your scope if you think Windows can "run any program you want".

>>11227721
You're not a TRU/jp/sie pal. The real /jp/sie is using a P4/DC because he is too poor to afford a C2Q.

Also, Windows Server 2003? You're almost retarded as Sparky.

>>11227736
I imagine this guy like:

-"Hey Ferguson, what is your favorite hobbie?"
-Shitpost on da /jp/ kek, lemme show u how I own da nerds to da floor LMAO.

>>11227736
Well I'm not running assembly, that's for sure.

>>11227748
I imagine you like, well, basically what's in your post.

>>11227722
The CLI is dead, rotting, and useless. The actual system itself is ancient.and horrible, most likely due to the fact the actual system itself is locked down and other people can't work on it or modify it at all. Yes, it can run "modern" software, it doesn't mean the actual system isn't old as fuck and primitive under the aero themes and 600 dollar adobe software.

All the software tends to be more locked down too because of this. Almost everything on linux has command line options and can easily be incorporated into bash scripts or be made to be used in very imaginative or convenient ways, you just have an entirely different level of control over everything, such a huge difference in control I can't think of a proper analogy. Look at the difference between how to compile something on linux and how to compile something on Windows, I mean jesus.

The development is rapid too for the most part. Go download a new kernel which is released all the time and go into the menuconfig and you'll see crazy amounts of shit that was added just from the last release.

>>11227738
>Sparky
Who?

That shit's older than /jp/ itself, anyone posting here can afford spending that much. And of all things to call me retarded for, you've chosen Win2003? I must ask you to leave. You cannot into /g/, much less /jp/.

>>11227769
If they fix things, then programs suddenly stop working. It may be weird, but programs are built around Window's weirdness. That's why Vista failed.

>>11227781
Dude, that was pretty homosexual.


>404 when
>I must ask you to leave
>You cannot into /g/

Want to lick my semen too, you sissy "otaku".

>>11227652
>GNU/Linux and Windows are the only two series of operating systems

>>11227804
Yeah those mysterious "other" OSes. With their huge 2.11% market share and all.

>>11227804
So you're using a mac? For fucking shame.

Or if you're using BSD, the only major difference between it and linux is the kernel.

In any case, all of them can take advantage of mplayer2 too.

>>11227814
>the only major difference between it and linux is the kernel

And, you know, the entire BSD userland. I'm not sure why you're calling me out for using OS X when it's clear you don't know anything about operating systems.

>>11227814
Modern Mac is Unix

Video: mpv with VDPAU
Audio: mpd+ncmpcpp

>>11225826
Why does OS choice have anything to do with being a crossboarder? Stop projecting faggot, more people use Linux now, stop living in 2006.

And please don't interject.

>>11227709
>tru/jp/ OS
There's no such thing as tru/jp/ OS, people saying this are asspained/agressive Windows users with inferiority complex, when it's just a personal choice.

>>11227796
>Want to lick my semen too, you sissy "otaku".
And this is what I receive for stooping so low as to use the language the crossboarders will have no problems understanding. Oh well.

Get out of /jp/.

>>11227911
>And this is what I receive for stooping so low as to use the language the crossboarders will have no problems understanding.
So you decided to post like a retard, and expected it to be received well.

>>11227911
Try harder dude, the average /jp/sie is elitist but not an angry fucktard.

OP's diagram reminds me of a Foveon image sensor. It's an image sensor designed in the same way film is, with each layer picking up only certain colors. This gives somewhat more tones in the end image and because there's no need for an anti-aliasing filter, the sensor can resolve more detail from the image projected onto it, producing sharper images. The downside is that the company whose cameras use this sensor isn't very popular and I think they lack the money they need for proper research and development for the sensor because high ISO kills the image quality.

Image from the Foveon sensor on the right, Bayer on the left. The right looks very natural, almost like film.

>>11227911
you are so crossie it hurts. frig of back to /g/ - I use linux to scare my mom.

Seems like some people in here use linux, what do I need to do to get touhou to run in wine, it's yelling about my fonts.

>>11228669
It should run with no windows fonts installed, but the dialogs would look strange...

To run th06-th10, a newer version of wine is advised. 1.4 or 1.6. But to run th11-th14, you need wine 1.1 or lower. So I have two binaries, and I'm eagerly waiting for a goddamn fix for the issue with th11-th14 (they run at only 6fps in wines newer than 1.1).

What version of wine do you have?

Oh, but to answer your question, to install windows fonts, just run
>winetricks fonts allfonts
It'll download and install all the windows fonts.

If you don't have winetricks, install it from here:
http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks

>>11228690
or just use windows like an adult and leave linux for the edgy teenage 'hackers'.

>>11228696
It's a single fucking line in the terminal.

Why are you so afraid of text? Are you american or something?

It is saying this for heaps of different fonts:

Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-droid-sans-fonts.conf", line 138: Having multiple values in <test> isn't supported and may not work as expected

>>11228700
You broke it. Now you have to recompile the kernal.

>>11228700
What the fuck? That looks like some sort of issue with your distro, not with wine or 2hu.

What the fuck did you do to your fontconfig?

>>11228696
Does windows have brtfs yet? Proper fonts? etc

>>11228722
It's debian with infinality, that must be what caused the problem.

Some progress, now it's saying

err:module:import_dll Library d3d8.dll not found

>>11228724
At least NTFS doesn't eat my files. Enjoy your beta file system.

>>11228788
>Many of the developers and testers run btrfs as their primary filesystem for day-to-day usage, or with various forms of "real" data. With reliable hardware and up-to-date kernels, we see very few unrecoverable problems showing up. As always, keep backups, test them, and be prepared to use them.

That was 2012, something just doesn't magically go one day from unstable to stable. It's fine.

vlc for films mplayer for anime winamp for music

>>11228816
I'm not going to use a filesystem that openly tells me to "keep backups and prepare to use them". ZFS is fine, but brtfs is just a nerd toy at this point.

>>11228741
Your copy of wine doesn't come with d3d8? What version of wine are you using?

Install directx9 with winetricks and see what happens:
>winetricks d3dx9

>>11228835
What filesystem doesn't tell you to use backups?

>>11228731
I heard there aren't Infinality binaries for Debian, did you try to patch it yourself? Maybe something went wrong there.

>>11228741
You seem to be using a pretty old version of Wine? Try running "wine --version"

>>11228848
It seems he's using Debian, outdated packages everywhere.

Try using Linux Mint.

>>11228874
Sid's got 1.5.5...

>>11228874
There are instructions for how to make a deb for infinality.
It's wine version 1.4.1.
I like debian.

>>11228878
I know, but most people use testing. I'm not sure about other Debian-based distros. Arch has 1.6.

>>11228885
I know, I used to use Debian, I like it too but having to deal with bugs that were fixed in upstream months ago was frustrating.

>>11228885
1.4 should already come with directx...

Did you try the winetricks command I gave you?

And yeah, I like debian too. I used it for several years.

>>11224910
anime: mpc-hc
music: foobar

>>11228893
I am trying it now, it is still downloading.

foobar2000: music, always
MPC: video, usually
VLC: video, sometimes
winamp: music, rarely

KCP/MPC-HC for video, Comicrack for manga, foobar for music, images with windows photo viewer because why not. (gifs with browser)

>>11228956
try mcomix.

fb2k for music
mpc for girly cartoons
winamp ONLY for access to gracenote tagging database which is way better than fb2k for when i get something with no tags or whatever

>>11229073
>winamp ONLY for access to gracenote tagging database

Use MusicBrainz Picard. You can set it to embed cover art and rename/move files. I run it on every album I download to get a nice "Music/Artist/Album/01 - Song" format.

>11224910

MPC-HC with the Kawaii Codec Pack for video
Foobar for music

I'd be too embarrassed with myself to have "Kawaii Codec Pack" installed on my computer.

My parents literally died in the Soviet Union, and I still vastly prefer "CCCP".

>>11227634
Take it easy!

I just hadn't seen a pic of her posted in practically forever, so I decided to post one in this random off-topic thread... which is still here for some reason.

>>11229774
Bitch, we're talking about 2hu on linux here.

Also, that bitch you're posting is making me not like Gatchaman Crowds as much as I could.

>>11229787
>Bitch, we're talking about 2hu on linux here.
By all means, continue.

>>11225491
for all intents and purposes*

MPC
MMCE
Winamp

>>11225856
I'm not the guy you replied too, but I personally prefer Music Bee.

>>11225491
DeaDBeef would be perfect if it had better tagging support.

MPC-HC for videos and Winamp for music

I USE UBUNTU!

>>11233755
What version?

What do you use to watch videos and listen to music?

You better be using Clementine and mplayer2 nigger.

>>11233655
You mean a media library? Because it doesn't seem to have issues reading tags.

xmms2 daemon for audio (using the cli interface and keyboard shortcuts to control)

self-compiled latest mplayer for video, with of course no gui again

for OS distribution, using debian testing with a few packages from unstable

Foobar for audio, Windows Media Player Classic with CCCP codec pack for video

>>11233818
>self-compiled latest mplayer for video
oh, come on, it comes with an autoinstaller that downloads it dependencies...

>>11228690
what

last I played some touhou was on wine 1.5.21 and th6-13 all ran perfectly, never needed to use 1.1

haven't touched 14 yet

>>11233822
I just make my own debian package (with a few things customized from my own patches) with it once in a while, since it comes with proper control files and it's quick.. then throw it in my local repository

>>11233827
You're saying you didn't bump into this bug?
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30538

Could you upload your wine binary? I wouldn't mind a 1.5.21 that runs th11-th13 just fine...

>>11233834
Right, that's what I'm saying. You say "self-compiled latest mplayer" as if there was any difficulty to it - when it actually gets its own dependencies and compiles itself with a script. Which is awesome, but next time, just say "mplayer".

>>11233838
but I didn't mean to imply there was any difficulty, was just saying what I was using

>>11233814
It ignores most tags. I don't want that. And isn'treally good at tagging. I do use a standalone tagger, just saying that quodlibet beats everything else when it comes to tagging. And no, I don't care about a libraries/database. Also stats are scary.

>>11233818

>>11233863

>>11233838
just tried th11 again on my 1.5.21 wine again to be sure, getting 60fps regardless of how I run it

running with 560ti and 304.88 nvidia drivers

haven't done anything special with it though, it's just a normal 1.5.21 (I have an alternate 1.5.21 with vertex support but not using it for touhou).. maybe something to do with my setup

still want it?

>>11233870
yeah, still want your binary. At least to try.

I wonder what logic the janitor uses to consider this thread more otaku culture than the grisaia translation and the japan-guide one.

>>11233870
forgot my screencap

>>11233875
and oh wait, I got it wrong, it's 1.5.26 (1.5.21 is my vertex build).. but probably not a big difference

http://ev.ath.cx:7420/ex/wine-1.5.26-amd64-bin.tar.xz (just threw the entire wine install in, 15MB.. I keep separate installs like this)

just setup the right LD_LIBRARY_PATH and assuming you got same libraries as me and you're on amd64, should run fine

Ａｎｙｏｎｅ　ｔｈａｔ　ｕｓｅｓ　ｇｏｏｇｌｅ　ｏｖｅｒ　ｙａｈｏｏ　ａｎｄ　ｌｉｎｕｘ　ｏｖｅｒ　ｗｉｎｄｏｗｓ　ｘｐ　ａｒｅ　ｎｏｔ　ｗｅｌｃｏｍｅ　ｔｏ　ｔｈｉｓ　ｂｏａｒｄ

>>11233888
or wait, I compiled it for i686, so forget amd64 lol

>>11233888
>amd64
FUG

Core i5, i386.

Thanks anyway.

>>11233892
Oh, cool.

Could you run me through the LD_LIBRARY_PATH setup process? I use playonlinux for my 1.1.

>>11233899
oh, yeah I use my own setup and scripts, don't use playonlinux

LD_LIBRARY_PATH is an env variable to tell the binary where to search for libraries
like
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/path/to/wine-1.5.26/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH"
might want to add wine-1.5.26/bin to your PATH as well so wine can find its own stuff

then run the wine command

maybe the problem is specific to whatever playonlinux uses? for me it's just a vanilla build checked out from winehq

For audio I use mpd most of the time. If I want to play a specific file I use mplayer2.
For video I wanted to switch to mpv, but my global ffmpeg libraries aren't compiled with as many features as my local build, so it produced a Segfault. Using mplayer2 with -vo gl and -vf gradfun for most of my stuff.

I use VLC for everything. I really don't like how it loads up metadata from files though. What I really want is to play audio and/or video data, and that's it. I identify my shit by using filenames, not fucking metadata horsecock shit. Most of my music is illegally ripped from video games and shit, so there's not going to be any album art or any of that shit. Fuck off and just tell me the filename of what's currently playing, you assfuck. And none of that "music library management" bullshit. I organize my music with the filesystem, thanks. I don't need some piece of shit music library manager in my media player. What an awful piece of bloat that garbage is. From what I've heard, foobar2000 is all about that shit, so it can go suck a fuck too.

>>11233906
No, I use playonlinux for my 1.1 with 11-13. I use 1.6 (whichever the latest update installs) vanilla for 06-10, and it doesn't work with 11-13. Hasn't worked for me since 1.3, when I started using 1.1 through playonlinux for 11-13.

Thanks for the LD_LIBRARY_PATH explanation. wine 1.5.26 is running now... but I guess it's compiled to work only on your card or something like that, because it gives me a
>fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x32f848,0x00000000), stub!
followed by a bunch of
>err:d3d:context_active_texture >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GL_INVALID_ENUM (0x500) from glActiveTextureARB @ context.c / 1921
and the screen shows only two tones of red color.

Oh well, guess I'll keep on playing the way I've been playing. But thanks for the binary and the LD_LIBRARY_PATH explanation. It's been educative.

>>11233919
yeah, I never intended it to be ran by others.. I guess it's not surprising, oh well

it's not like my binary is anything special anyway, you should get the same result if you build it yourself

but wether it'll run fine or not, may be specific to the rest of my system and not wine itself.. this thread is actually the first time I even heard about that bug, never ran into it

>not using a different media player or libraries for the different formats

>>11233855
I don't think I've had problems with tags not showing, what specifically is it for you? Admittedly I never used its tag editor.

>>11233939
zsnes-logic.png

>>11225826
What the fuck? Using Linux automatically makes you a re/g/g/itard? Now what, playing Touhou makes you a Gaiatard?

>>11228696
or just dual boot windows and linux? fuck off

>>11228707
if people weren't afraid of text we would never have mouses

>>11233980
>dual boot windows
never again, you won't get me

always end up regretting installing windows and need to re-arrange my partitions I reserved for windows to get rid of it

When setting up a new computer, I often installed it just "in case" there was something that wouldn't run fine in wine, but for what I use, I never had issues...

furthermore, everytime I actually use windows, such a pain to do the simplest things, all those lacking tools.. I just end up ssh'ing to my other computer

How can any of you people stand windows is beyond me (although I've been using linux since 1995 remotly, and 1997 at home with slackware, so I maybe I'm just too used to it)

>>11233989
you're just use to it, I can barely get around using mint on my laptop. but that's just my lack of knowledge with linux software and I've never really learned how to use a terminal effectively.

>>11233989
It's not just you.

I used windows 3.1 starting on 1993 at home, and used it all the way to XP until 2003, when I started with KNOPPIX. In 2006 I moved for good to Slackware, though I tried mandriva and debian for several years, and then stayed in Ubuntu LTS. And I agree completely with you. How can people still live with that horrible excuse for an OS is beyond me.

>>11234001
Once you start understanding bash, there will be no going back for you.

>>11233958
I just checked and they all do show up with some of them mapped to ID3 tags, and that's what I had problems with. Well, I should probably check stuff before complaining. Thank god this isn't a bugtracker or anything of that sort. Sorry for wasting your time.

>>11234003
>>11233989
that's why you have no friends

>>11234014
that's good

I sure wouldn't want any

>>11234006
anything you recommend to learn bash? if it matters I have zero programming experience.

>>11234021
http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/scripting/tutoriallist

>>11234009
Oh multiple conflicting tags? Yeah that's annoying.

>>11234001
i don't get this. for the most mart it's the same pointing and clicking as in windows or os x. only once you want to install something to rename the contents of someone's win32 folder with their md5 has does it become "complicated".