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STG thread.
You know what to do.

Old thread >>11134208

>> No.11208817
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Finally, I was getting worried.

How do I stop being absolute ass, /jp/.

>> No.11208944

>>11208805
Stop playing with a retexture or hitbox patch.

>> No.11208998

>>11208817
Getting hit on Stage 1? It happens to me all the time, it usually takes me 200-300 credits before I even begin to start doing NMNB on the first three stages.

>> No.11209397

>>11208998
Is that including restarts?

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Any of you ever wanted custom ships in shmups? I always wanted a Raiden Fighters ship that had the same stats as Chaser/Chaser 2000 but didn't have godawful homing weapons.

>> No.11209617

>>11209397
I don't restart until about 50 credits in, it helps for me to get familiar with the stages and stuff before I go sad restarting on stage 1 and 2. I should also note that I play on Lunatic only, but only because everybody else plays on Lunatic, it only feels like it's the standard difficulty to be playing on. Something just doesn't feel right about Normal and Hard when you're not good enough to play for score or do other special rule runs.

Even after those initial 200-300 credits, I still die occasionally to the first few stages. It leaves little room to improve on the later stages sometimes, but I guess I have to just keep with it.

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My fingers hurt, please stream /jp/. I don't mind if you have no talent for touhou!

>> No.11210641

It's nice returning to the game after so long and not being able to dodge well. Should have started with EoSD or PCB though, IN is far too forgiving and that 1CC was undeserved.

>> No.11210662

>>11210641
IN is the best fuk u

>> No.11210839

I want to fucking kill myself

>> No.11211057

I can't seem to screenshot this but I'm having an issue with UFO. Sometimes I will get this weird rippling/wavy effect just above the POC or sometimes about 2 inches from the bottom of the screen, and it distorts the flow of Reimu's shot as well as the background, which seems to be random. How can I fix this? It's really fucking annoying and throws me off my game quite often.

>> No.11211077

>>11211057
Tearing is a complex software and hardware interaction issue that even our freshside grille smart-choice menu items cannot cure.

>> No.11211455

>>11211057
Better screen tearing than input lag.

>> No.11211466

>>11211057
Turn on vertical sync in both your graphic card options and vpatch configuration.

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>>11211466
Thanks!

Also, I've always wondered about this feature. Does this really do anything to the sensitivity? I can't actually tell. Moving right is making it more sensitive, I assume. If I put it to the right fully my controller stops responding.

>> No.11212001

>>11211902
google "dead zone"

>> No.11212013

>>11211077
That's an obscure ref dude but I got it

>> No.11212973
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I am very very beginner of Touhou: perfect cherry blossom normal mode.

My short term goal is NMNBNBB the first 4 stages, then I will work out how to deal with Youmu and practice her. Long term goal is 1cc, after that I will learn about score. Thanks.

>> No.11213026

>>11212973
>
My short term goal is NMNBNBB the first 4 stages, then I will work out how to deal with Youmu and practice her. Long term goal is 1cc

Don't get so caught up on doing the early stages perfectly. No amount of extra resources going into the later boss fights is worth not having the experience of playing them a lot already. Also, you'll most likely find yourself doing perfect runs of the first three stages after enough full runs whether you go on to Youmu or not.

Plus resetting when you mess up in an early stage is frustrating and messes with how well you can learn.

>> No.11213131

>be a huge shmup fan
>have 1cc'd gradius 1 and 2, life force salamander and dodonpachi (not black label)
>enjoy well made shmups in general, gradius and CAVE shmups are my favourites
>hear touhou games are difficult shmups
>download a touhou pack that has all of them
>tried out all the shmups
>they suck compared to japanese arcade games
>scoring system is weird
>movement too sensitive
>etc

>delete them from my hard drive
>never play them again
>to this day, I wonder what people like about touhou because the games weren't particularly fun

is it for the fanart?

>> No.11213135

>>11209486
It's so frustrating when the only fast ship has a homing weapon.

>> No.11213169

>>11213131
>didn't sage
Pardon, I don't really browse jp, I'm not that familiar with your posting etiquette. I was just very curious so I thought I'd ask touhou players directly what the like most about the games.

>> No.11213199

>>11213131
Hold shift for focused movement.

>> No.11213240

>>11213131
>movement too sensitive
Man any time I play shmups that have movement speed as powerups i'd always pick up one too many and go slamming into shit. Fuck.

And yeah its mostly the fanbase, but the half-games you should find actually a fun change of pace.
Shoot the Bullet and Double Spoiler take a different angle to shooting at boss fights. Fairy Wars had a neat gimmick but it actually kind of got old fast.

I wish a new Phantasmagoria would come out already with decent netplay.

>> No.11213387

>>11213131
>scoring system is weird
>as if they don't all have different scoring systems
>movement too sensitive

really
when people say things like this and be so incredibly nonspecific i can't take them seriously at all
in general when people say they play shmups but think all the touhou games are bad i have to question their bias

>> No.11213402

>>11213387
I can't blame them for thinking they're too easy. Shit like he's listed off were designed to devour your money at arcades.

Some of the generalizations just seem like minor bitching to try and stress the point that they just didn't like some of the games.

>> No.11213894

>>11213402
Gradius is harder than Touhou, sure. But CAVE games don't get much harder than an average Touhou game until the second loop, and even, it can be comparable to Touhou on Lunatic.

I'm at the same consistency for 2-1 of DOJ and stage 1's in Touhou on Lunatic, dying two times in a row for an hour straight until I eventually get upset and do something else.

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Please stream /jp/.

>> No.11214134

>>11214113
fuck off Lahey

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>>11214134

>> No.11215295

>>11213387
Touhou plays a lot differently to other STGs. Not liking 1 game/series in an entire genre really isn't that unusual.

>> No.11215700

If you didn't clear at least one of the touhou games on lunatic you don't know shit about S-T-G's.

>> No.11215785

>>11213131
Because your opinion is not a universal fact. Seems to me that you found it too hard and quit out of a fit of rage.

>> No.11215889

>>11215700
How do I play Lunatic? -Everybody- seems to trivialize a Lunatic clear and talk about how easy it is, but really, how do you play Lunatic? Everything seems so much different from Normal and Hard, more ways to fuck up, more ways to die. Each time I've tried to play Lunatic, it just seems impossible. I can't use practice mode because I have to beat the stages to unlock them, which is pretty much impossible for me without a huge amount of luck involved. I just want to enjoy Touhou the way it was meant to be played.

>> No.11216000

>>11215889
Yeah, first you grab either a game you cherish or one of the easier games (8,10,11) 6 is also p easier but not a good game imo. Now if you just wnt a clear and do things the easy way you look at what shot ppls play for example I recommend (reimur/yukari for 8, reimu A or B for 10, reimu A for 11 and dont even think of playing anything else there)(dont know about eosd honestly). then just figure out a router or take the easy way out and get a replay from replays.gensokyo.org, i say, if you are good at dodging and stuff just play 10, if you are not good at dodging play 11 and learn all the safesports and such (there is a damn lot) and as I said, get a good route, its all about your ressources and management thereof if you just want to clear.

as to not confuse you, dont play 13, 7 or 12 to begin with as they will be pretty tough, people always say 13 is easy but.. its just easy if you are already good if you know what I mean. in short: 11 if you suck at dodging, 10 if you dont want to memorize as much, 8 if you prefer the older games for some reason. good luck buddy, thoguh you wont need it after this guide (just read this now: for stage practice: just use continues and. ~tom

>> No.11216122

>>11215889
You want to enjoy the games the way they were meant to be played... with stage practice?

>> No.11216151 [DELETED] 

>>11215889
>-Everybody- seems to trivialize a Lunatic clear and talk about how easy it is
Don't mind them. If they tell you it's hard they penis will shrink.

>> No.11216158

>>11216000
I'll try my hardest with my favorite games, thank you. Maybe if I try, I'll be able to 1cc EoSD or MPP on Lunatic.

>>11216122
Until I'm good enough to play Lunatic in all of the Touhou games, yes. I want to start joining PoFV "LUNATIC NO NOOBS NCNFNB" games too, but my anxiety triggers before I even join. People seem to know exactly what to do and where everything is before they've even played the game, but I'm not good enough to have that precognition. Eventually, I want to blindrun a new Touhou Lunatic without stage select since everybody says that getting a game over in general is sign of a bad player.

>> No.11216174

>>11216158
The next time you feel like saying "everybody", replace it with "one guy I talked to" before posting.

>> No.11216302

touhou hentai

>> No.11216379

>>11215889
It's talent that sets apart people like you and people you described. It will take you years, thousands of hours maybe, to reach the level you desire.

>> No.11216514

>>11216158
>getting a game over in general is sign of a bad player.
Yes that kind of defeats the purpose of 1cc of "One credit clear" which is required to see the good endings.

>> No.11216996

>>11216000
I'd say EoSD's shottypes are fairly balanced, but it's pretty well known that ReimuB and MarisaA have a very difficult Patchouli fight

Also I've seen a few people consider 7 to be a good game to start but I'll agree with you on that since I beat lunatic on 8,10 and 11 before 7

>> No.11217157

>>11216996
Yeah I don't see whats so bad about 7, the prismrivers are kind of a hard wall but thats about it. Youmu doesn't really have any difficult gimmicks compared to Sakuya knife hitbox bullshittery or Reisen's patterns.

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why don't we just call them dodging games like the japanese do?

>> No.11217964

>>11215889
>Lunatic clear
>I just want to enjoy Touhou the way it was meant to be played.
Wat? No, seriously, what? Are you crazy?
Let's consider NBND Pacifist Lunatic 120 FPS run trivial then. Why not?

>> No.11217966

>>11217951
I call them SHMUPs because you shoot up.

>> No.11217969

>>11216379
But it's almost 100% muscle memory.

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>>11217969
How long does it take to actually memorize all the patterns in a game? Two? maybe three runs?

>> No.11218117

>>11218010
>Memorizing patterns
I play off pure reflex, only managed to 1cc games on hard like that, but thats just how I play games.

Memorizing is for stupid shit that tries to be IWBTG, where its just Simon: The Platformer

>> No.11218147

>>11218117
Unfortunately, a lot of shmups can be simplified enormously with memorization.

>> No.11218196

>>11218147
Next you'll tell us they need to make random shmups.

>> No.11218233

>>11216174
My apologies. I meant a few people, and by a few, I mean it literally. Three people.

>>11216379
Thousands of hours for a Lunatic clear? Yeah, I'm pretty slow, but that long?

>>11216514
If I get a good score and end up getting a game over on the last stage, that means the entire run is disqualified from royalflare and arcadia. Which means that the run was shit, no?

>>11217964
Loads of people play on Lunatic nowadays. Normal and Hard feel like they are just there for scoring challenges and messing around.

>>11217157
Sakuya's knife hitboxes in PoFV surpass the highest of bullshit.

>> No.11218369

>>11218233
>Which means that the run was shit, no?
Yes because if you DIDN'T gameover at the last stage your score would have been incredibly higher from the last stage clear bonus.

>> No.11218413

>>11218196
So they shouldn't?

>> No.11218431

>>11218413
No, because randomness is the bane of any competitive game.

>> No.11218454

>>11218431
>competitive game
But its a single player game.

PoFV had random shit everywhere.

>> No.11218464

>>11218431
Even the Gods of the STG, Cave, can occasionally fuck this up. Some randomness isn't inherently bad, but it's a design failure when a dice roll determines how many points you can get in a given situation.

>> No.11218469

>>11218454
The high score counter makes them competitive games.

>> No.11219574

>>11218454
>But its a single player game.
A single player competitive game.

>PoFV had random shit everywhere.
Notice how nobody scores seriously in PoFV.

>> No.11219722

I beat touhou 6 thanks to my little friend here. I'm satisfied. I guess I'm not a secondary anymore uh?

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>>11219722
forgot my image

>> No.11219728

>>11219725
Oh my lordy lord.

>> No.11219757

>>11219725
Ha I've never thought of this

>> No.11219764

>>11219725
Where is the load/save state button?

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is it even possible to 1cc this on lunatic? I'm seriously thinking no.

>> No.11220337

>>11219725
>>11219722
fckn hp★ posr

>> No.11220878

>>11219725
mah nigga

>> No.11220891

>>11219722
>>11219725
Why would you rob yourself the satisfaction of actually playing the game? It's not like it takes that much time to get decent enough to clear Normal and Hard anyway.

>>11219787
There's quite a few people playing PoDD who have done so on every character, even doing NB runs with the worst character in the game. It's definitely possible, but you're going to need a large amount of natural talent to do so.

>> No.11220980

How can I modify the rank in EoSD? I want stage practice to be somewhat useful for a run.

>> No.11221039

>>11219725
Nice. I wish I had that too so I wouldn't have wasted hundreds of hours grinding that shit out of frustration.

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>>11221039
>easiest game in the series
>100s of hours

>> No.11221064

>>11221054
How's EoSD the easiest game in the series?

>> No.11221115

I'm having trouble inputting diagonals, but I can't tell if it's just my PS3 d-pad or if my execution just sucks. My character kind of bobs down to the left or down a little bit and then goes down left. No issue with inputting a diagonal on the right side though.

>> No.11221319

>>11221064
its the only game where natural talent far surpasses spell card memorization

>> No.11221341

>>11221115
I find that diagonals are too easy to do accidentally on a D-pad, and would highly recommend using a keyboard.

>>11221319
And that makes it easier how? Some people are great at memorization. EoSD is also less forgiving because you don't get a visible hitbox, and bombs/lives are uncommon, and your only escape from a bad situation.

>> No.11221344

eosd and pcb are shit unless you use the vsync patch

and then that's cheating

>> No.11221433

>>11221344
>not playing on a Pentium 4 with a CRT monitor

>> No.11221479

>>11220891
People enjoy killing or drive reckless in videogames. I enjoy cheating.

>> No.11221491

>>11221341
Yeah, that's another thing. I'll be tapping down and then suddenly go downright. Never downleft, always downright. The amount of times I've messed up a medal chain because of that is staggering, I switched to using KB for MAME after it fucked me over too many times. I like to use WASD + J for shot, K for bomb, L for autofire, it's pretty nice. I want to get a stick to play Touhou with, seems like it'd be a lot better than pad.

>>11221479
I like to cheat, but only if the cheats are fun. Freezing rank to the absolute highest in EoSD is pretty funny, the bullets go faster than a psikyo game on the second loop.

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>>11221491

I like to use cheats to max out rank too. Especially using debug mode. Thanks to Psikyo's Maintenance Mode I have forgotten entirely how to play their games on anything other than maximum rank.

But I don't use them to make the game any easier. That's boring.[/spoilers]

>TFW Psikyo fanart is pretty much nowhere to be found on Pixiv

A damn shame.

>> No.11223333

>>11221491
>>11223073
I can't seem to get cheat engine to work on touhou, maybe i'm just freezing the wrong value but I can't seem to stop the spellcard timers so I can see how desynched they get when they go beyond the normal like 30-60 seconds for the special ones.

>> No.11223489

After reaching my goals, I become bored and depressed because I don't have anything else to do. Sometimes I hate being so good at Touhou. :\/

>> No.11223667

>>11223489
post your scores

>> No.11223700

>>11223667
How do you scorerun in MoF?
I find it hard to keep that faith meter running at the bottom-left and I don't even know if keeping that thing up is doing me any good.

>> No.11223768

>>11223700
well, for the first 150m points it's basically scoring=survival (since you get lives by score)

faith is just point item value that decreases every time you bomb (except deathbombs) and when you're not grabbing items, for which you sometimes want to stall killing enemies, also some enemies fire large amounts of bullets in one go so you want to (death)bomb on them to cancel those bullets and get more faith

still, the most important thing is to not die, ever.
MoF is probably the game that punishes dying the hardest, you not only lose a huge score bonus from lives at the end, your faith is decreased by a percentage based on the stage, so basically dying just once at any point in the game guarantees a restart

>> No.11223778

>>11223768
I thought it was more like scoring=timed kills.

>> No.11223786

>>11223768
Man here I was bombing EVERYTHING just because of free autocollect and tons of little points when the screen is full of shit.

I guess I could try to slam into something intentionally if deathbombing does the same shit without killing the faith meter, also aren't point items max value anyway if you gather them at the PoC?

>> No.11223794

>>11223778
I meant that as you will want to play for score regardless of you wanting to scorerun or not up to that point, but yeah scoring in this game is all about timing (killing, bombing, even item collecting)

>> No.11223801

>>11223786
yes, at PoC the items are worth the same as the faith meter, except for gold items, they are worth max value anywhere on the screen

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>tfw you just got into touhou
>tfw you're shit at danmaku
>tfw starting with EoSD because lel chronological order
>tfw playing on and off for weeks
>tfw you make it to the last stage of sakuya's stage before losing your last life
>tfw not even mad because it's as far as you've ever gotten
>tfw starting to see the patterns and the pathways, your reflexes sharpening playthrough by playthrough

Someday I'll make it, /jp/. Someday.

>> No.11223871

>>11223869
why do you have to shit up the board with unfunny ironic shitposting.

if youre going to shitpost at least make it interesting. if I wanted to see how /a/ or /v/ posted I could go there (lol no)

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>>11223794

>> No.11223876

>>11223871

B-but that actually just happened to me, Anon. I'm excited that I'm getting better and I wanted to share the feels.

>> No.11223884

>>11223876
"I'm pretty shit at touhou, and danmaku in general, but i've been playing EoSD because its the first windows game. Been playing on and off for WEEKS and i'm just getting to the end of Sakuya's stage before losing. Not even mad, starting to see the patterns and the pathways and getting better each time."

>tfw no greentext

>> No.11223898

>>11223884

Sorry mang, I'm from /tg/ and the greentext flows like water over there. I won't make that mistake again. I'll also sage this post because I guess people do that here too? This is like, my second time on /jp/.

>> No.11223914

>>11223898
there is an stg thread in /vg/

you'll probably like it more there

please check it out and dont report back

>> No.11224032

>>11223869
Cool, keep it up. Even "weeks" is faster than my first EoSD 1cc.

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these games are for total faggots

>> No.11224060

>>11224033
liek u amirite/? xD

>> No.11224178

>>11221064

Mostly just knowing what to do. As soon as you get what to do, you shouldn't be dying very often.

>>11221319

>natural talent

That's hardly true. I'm shit at STGs, in fact when I posted my first Normal 1cc I got mercilessly bullied for it here. But I can 1cc Hard pretty easy.

>> No.11224450

>>11223489
Nothing can match the feeling of being more bored and depressed when you fail a NMNB run fifty times in a row. Especially when it's something as stupid as losing focus and dying to a stray bullet. And to make matters even worse, Remilia is basically a dice roll. Nothing like losing 30 minutes of my time because she decided to fuck me over with RNG. I WISH I was good at Touhou, at least then I wouldn't be constantly restarting and seeing the first four stages with the occasional decent run to Stage 5 or 6.

>>11224178
I got bullied for my first Normal 1cc too, but only because it was TD. Yes, seriously. I'm that shit.

>> No.11224874

>>11223914
we have a great shmup community in /vr/

>> No.11225119

>>11224450
How do you keep on playing?

>> No.11225865

>>11223869
The proper way to play. Congrats on your progress.

>> No.11225939

>>11225119
I just keep restarting until my soul crushes and I just say fuck it. It's very easy for me to get burnt out on the game because of this, I don't know how many times I've restarted on ST5 when scoring. I've even gone as far as to mess up the opening bomb on that stage, really hate it.

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Is it anything fancy, if I clear a shot type on the first playthrough, but I've already cleared it on another one? It hardly counts as a blind run, but..

Anyway, I just unlocked extra for the three shot types I never use, and that last run is going to look so hilarious when I wake up. If I wasn't drunk off my face, I'd celebrate with a drink.
Woo \o/

>> No.11229609

Is there anyway to quick restart in EoSD? Grinding stages gets kind of annoying because I have to quit out to the menu every time I want to reset. Especially annoying on a day where I die multiple times to the stage opener.

Help my untalented ass.

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>>11229609
stop making mistakes then you wont need to reset

>> No.11229896

>>11229746
That's easier said than done, there are multiple areas to mess up on in the stages. One bomb or death is an instant restart in practice, and going out to the menu is just kind of annoying to do every time. I'm sorry for being so bad, I'm just trying to actually improve now. ;_;

>> No.11230040

Why am I so fucking shit at this I play more than average and end up being shittier than average I want to die Fuck

>> No.11230120

>>11230040
"To think I could trust a /jp/-only player to do anything other than autopilot. How foolish I was." - GUP, 12/23/10

Think about why you died.

>> No.11230180

>>11230120
Think about how retarded you need to be in order to quote some autistic /jp/ fuck from three years back.

>> No.11230320

>>11230180
This is what happens when people who suck at Touhou drop out of high school.

>> No.11230372

EoSD and PCB have more input lag than IN on Wine without the vpatch.

>> No.11230412

>>11230372
I've never noticed much input delay playing IN on Windows. EoSD and PCB, on the other hand, need vpatch for me to even think about playing them. Well, EoSD runs at 900FPS in fullscreen, feels like I'm playing underwater in windowed. PCB feels the same in both fullscreen and windowed.

>> No.11230439

>>11230372
*EoSD and PCB on Windows

>>11230412
I get around ~60fps for all games on Windows and haven't noticed any slowdown since I play on the lower difficulties. I haven't noticed any input lag for IN on Windows either.

>> No.11230492

I found a great way to deal with a certain card: instead of sitting at the bottom of the screen and dodging loads of stuff you can hang around right next to her and switch behind her each wave so nothing comes at you!

>> No.11230665

AAAAAAHHHHH, I'm tired of hearing the first five notes of EoSD ST5 theme. 90FPS grinding is making me physically sick to my stomach and the only thing I've learned in the past five hours is how to muscle memory ESC DOWN Z UP Z ZZZZZ(ry.

When I don't fucking bomb accidentally, I end up ramming a bullet because of my horrible slow memory and reading skills.

>> No.11230760

>>11230665
You can press Esc -> Q alternatively.

>> No.11230990

Hey /jp/ I feel rather awkward asking this, but are there any lewd STGs? Like, really lewd, I've been missing motivation lately and I think this could help.

>> No.11231013

>>11230990
There's a hori where you're a jizz-shooting helicopter-dick.

>> No.11231017

>>11230990
Space Phallus is pretty lewd.

>> No.11231055

>>11230990
burunyan, if you play the guy;

>> No.11231092

>>11231055
this game is absolutely terrible, but at least i managed to fap to the 4th boss

>> No.11231113

>>11230990

Artesneit stuff is extremely lewd.
Purple Heart ~ Koukuu Shoujotai is a yuri shmup of some kind, iirc. Not sure whether that's lewd enough? I remember it being pretty lame, though.
There was a mildly porny miko-themed H-shmup some Comikets back that I thought was kind of fun and cute, but I can't remember the name or find it right now.
Besides those, uh...uh... Steam-Heart's? I dunno, I'm sure there's a ton of stuff I can't think of right now/never heard of.

>> No.11231129

>>11231092
how is it terrible. it is a super fun and catchy game. sure the ero is terrible but wow if thats what you care about go fuck a rake.

>> No.11231136

>>11231113

Oh, and I guess there's Divine Sealing if you like bad Mega Drive games.

Anyone remember the name of that old shmup about a tiny spaceship shooting the clothes off of girls? It was actually pretty fun and the music was good. It was based on some anime or eroge or something?

>> No.11231201

>miko-themed H-shmup

Okay, I think this was "アマツカミの巫女-妖狐戦奇譚-". Be warned, it's really easy and the lewd is limited to clothes getting torn off. I think the music is good, though. Set it to the highest difficulty and you could have fun for a few runs.

> spaceship shooting the clothes off of girls

Sentimental Graffiti.

There. Fap to Artesneit's bizarro shit if you like tentacles and Giger, fap to the other stuff if you like vanilla. Now you have no excuse not to be motivated.

>> No.11231248

>>11231129
the bullet patterns and stage design are horribly boring. the graphics are good, but that's the only thing the game has going for it. nobody would ever care about that game if it weren't for the porn because there are thousands of better shooters

>> No.11231601

>>11230760
Oh, shit. I had no idea, thanks dude.

The stage is very slowly becoming muscle memory, I just hope that differing rank doesn't fuck me over in an actual run.

>> No.11233763
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Friendly reminder.
If you like UFO, you are a faggot. Simple as that.

>> No.11233775

>>11233763
UFO worst 2hu game, glad others think the same

>> No.11233801

>>11233763
I like EoSD, TD, and PoFV, and recently, DDC. What does that make me?

I'm getting a bit tired of grinding stages in EoSD, but I don't feel like I'm good enough for runs yet. It's the same deal with PoFV, as much as I want to netplay, it's very rare for me to last 3+ minutes against the AI, so I don't even bother.

>> No.11233799

>>11233763
I like the way you bump

>> No.11233805
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>>11233801
That makes you a pretty cool guy with taste almost as refined as my own, though PoFV is questionable.

>> No.11233858

>>11233763
Could you link me to your eosd WR again?

>> No.11233859

EoSD, SA and GFW are my favorites.

Rate me.

>> No.11233879

>>11233859
You have an opinion/10

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>> No.11234057

>>11208805
Is GFW the hardest touhou game? It feels impossible to beat. Only thing I would put close to it is SA.

>> No.11234092

>>11233859
Post scores

>> No.11234114

>>11234057
It's just an habit to take.

>> No.11234125

>>11234057
GFW is hard until you learn the freezing mechanic. Once you learn it though, anybody with a pulse can 1cc it. The real challenge comes from scoring, because you are required to play perfectly up until the end of the game for that end game bonus.

If GFW had a practice mode, I'd be all over it for fun shit like Normal-Hard no ice.

>> No.11234131

>>11234057
>Is GFW the hardest touhou game?

It's not. I'ts not even close.
UFO is the hardest touhou game, although some autists like to argue that it's not.
They're wrong tough.

>> No.11234159

>>11234131
satori rush is the hardest boss

HARDEST BOSS

>> No.11234161

Having NB Lunatic clears with every character in PoDD is what separates the men from the boys.

>> No.11234162
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>>11234131
Get a load of this guy. Calls people autists yet thinks UFO is hard. That is honestly fucking hilarious.

>> No.11234171

>>11233859
>No MoF
MoF is the best.

>> No.11234174

>>11234162
You're that TD freak who can't accept that his favorite game is piss-poor easy, right?

>> No.11234176

What kind of shmup fundies are needed to get a 1cc within 10 attempts?

How do I get shmup fundies?

>> No.11234187

>>11234176
What?

>> No.11234193

>>11234187
He means fundamentals, I'm guessing.

>> No.11234191
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>>11234174
Wrong you fucking idiot. TD is nowhere near my favourite game. EoSD is.
Did the poor autist get confused because I'm posting Miko images?
Are you upset that UFO is a horrendous pile of poorly coded shit? The cherry to top all of this off is that it's easy as fuck too.

>> No.11234194

>>11234187
shooting game fundamentals, some MX god of donpachi keeps talking about it

>> No.11234206

>>11234193
>>11234194
I never got what "shmup fundamentals" was supposed to mean.

>> No.11234213

>>11234191
I'm asking because there was a fucktard like you once here who kept arguing that TD > UFO, in terms of difficulty.
He got #rekt and #told hard though, so he doesn't show himself around here anymore.

>> No.11234215

>>11234206
I'm thinking it means overall skill level in the genre, having the ability to pick up and play any game competently in hours.

>> No.11234217

>>11234174
No one's favorite game is TD, who the hell actually unironically has TD as their favorite Touhou game?

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>>11234213
TD does own UFO in terms of difficulty though. The fuck are you talking about? TD doesn't give you 8 lives by stage 3 like UFO.

>#rekt
>#told hard
Haha how embarrassing. Why don't you go "yolo" yourself back to /b/ you worthless piece of shit :^).

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>>11233999

>> No.11234308

UFO has nice patterns, graphics and musics.

However, when I play it for more than 1 hour, I want to hit my screen. That's why I haven't cleared anything harder than extra...

>> No.11234311

>>11234131
Hardest or not, it's still a shit game with lame danmaku, boring characters, cheesy patterns, overall bland music, and a generally unappealing scoring system. It's all a matter of opinion though.

>> No.11234333

>>11234311
~

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>>11234311
>bland music
>Emotional Skyscraper ~ Cosmic Mind

>mfw

>It's all a matter of opinion though.
And yours is shit.

>>11234235
And you, you can just go fuck yourself.
I'm not even gonna bother replying to you anymore.

>> No.11234369

UFO and DDP are a lot alike. I constantly restart in both of them and I'm always spinning the stick and slamming my fist down on the stick. God, I fucking hate chaining.

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>>11234359
> Gets called out for spouting his worthless opinion like it's the law.
> "I d-don't wanna p-p-play anymore, I'm n-not talking to y-you anymore."


Bye bye you little bitch.

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>>11234359
>Emotional Skyscraper ~ Cosmic Mind
>not shit
Nice reaction image ``bro.'' L-let me try that, too.

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>>11234402
>TD does own UFO in terms of difficulty though.

Just read some of that ridiculously delusional shit you've been spouting.
You're clearly a mental case and discussing this further will lead nowhere.

>>11234421
>your taste
>not shit

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>>11234499
> "I'm n-not responding to you anymore"
> Couldn't contain his rampant autism enough to not post again.

Sorry, but your beloved game is a joke. Just embrace it.
It showers you with lives and the bosses are easier than their counterparts in every other Touhou game minus Shou.
How you find it difficult is beyond me.

You're clearly the one who is delusional, pal.


Post more of those epic reaction images, they're so funny~

>> No.11234574

>>11234552
are you being ironic or like meta-ironic

>> No.11234607

What happened to Riz? Why were all of his Youtube videos deleted?

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>>11234552
It's like you're trying to convey something but all I can hear is
>hrrrr drrrr
You should try pulling that TD cock out of your mouth.

>> No.11234654

>>11234619
Brilliant response. That will show him!

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>>11234619
So I tell you TD isn't my favourite yet you still bring it up as if it's relevant at all. Strange. Oh wait, I get it. You've ran out of things to say and thus you're using this as damage control. I see I see.

The fact that you've started posting reaction images with all of your posts is evidence enough that you are upset about something.
Why don't you tell me how I made you angry? Was it the part where I called a shit game that you like out on it being terrible? Or maybe it was when I said that the game is pathetically easy.
Is that why you feel the need to defend it and call it hard? Because you're shit at it? Ara ara.

>> No.11234679

>>11234607
Who's Riz?

>> No.11234702

>>11234607
He hates the trashy western Touhou community and wishes to get rid of any relation he had with it.

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>>11234655
Me? Upset by you?
Please don't flatter yourself, you're more like a clown that delivers cheap entertainment.
Good for a chuckle or two, nothing more.
And I'm posting reaction images because you asked for them.

You're talking out of your ass and clearly have no STG experience whatsoever so you really shouldn't voice your opinions on which game is more diffucult.
If you played enough UFO and TD you'd realize how wrong you are.
I'm guessing UFO is the game that gave you the most trouble of all, you probably weren't able to 1cc it or something, so now you shit all over it whenever possible in a fit of rage, by ridiculing it as being easy.
People who have far more experience than you and me all agree that SA and UFO are pretty much the hardest touhous, while TD is at the bottom of the barrel.
And if you think it's so easy hotshot, go do a LNMNB run and report back with a replay.

>> No.11234777

>>11234607
He hates the Western community now, and tried so many times to help noobs but they just never listen to him or his advice. He only streams for his boyfriend now, really do miss him.

I think he mostly just got fed up with people carrying on about how learning disability they are after like three attempts at luny.

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>>11234731
>Me? Upset by you?
Yes. You clearly are. I'm actually laughing that you're even trying to deny it. The desperation is clearly visible in all of your posts.

>And I'm posting reaction images because you asked for them.
Ask and I shall receive eh? Alright. Cease being a whiny little bitch, it's pitiful.
>You're talking out of your ass and clearly have no STG experience whatsoever so you really shouldn't voice your opinions on which game is more diffucult.

This is comedy gold right here. I'd be willing to bet that I'm far more versed in STG's than you, my delusional little anon.


>If you played enough UFO and TD you'd realize how wrong you are.

I've played enough of both, and no, I'm not wrong at all. I find it quite amusing that each assumption you make is more idiotic than the last.


>I'm guessing UFO is the game that gave you the most trouble of all

UFO has given me the least amount of difficulty on ALL difficulties. Next.

>People who have far more experience than you and me all agree that SA and UFO are pretty much the hardest touhous

Like who? A bunch of nobodies on MoTK? I talk to multiple highly skilled players (who I'm not going to namedrop) and the majority of them would agree UFO isn't difficult at all.


>And if you think it's so easy hotshot, go do a LNMNB run and report back with a replay.

Sure, I'll show you my LNMNB when you show me your LNMNB of EoSD. Hop to it, princess.

>> No.11234862

Who is the best player in the Western hemisphere?

>> No.11234866

>>11234862
MaZe

>> No.11234873

>>11234607
What happened to Nindella? What happened to all the other fun streamers?

>> No.11234886

>>11234866
MaZe says that CAVE games are easy garbage compared to Touhou. I agree with him completely.

>>11234873
Nindella just kind of fell off the face of the Earth two weeks ago... Rest in peace.

>> No.11234918

>>11234886
MaZe isn't talented enough to post a noteworthy score in a CAVE game, nor can he beat the hardest CAVE games. :V

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>>11234810
>I'm actually laughing that you're even trying to deny it.
That's funny. I'm actually laughing at you as well.

>Cease being a whiny little bitch, it's pitiful.
As soon as you quit being a pretentious little cunt who has brainwashed himself with his own shitty claims, it's not pleasant to look at either.

>This is comedy gold right here. I'd be willing to bet that I'm far more versed in STG's than you, my delusional little anon.
Yeah I can tell how well versed you are by your claims such as this little gem right here:
> bosses are easier than their counterparts in every other Touhou game
You're a real expert m8.

>I've played enough of both, and no, I'm not wrong at all.
>Bwaaah! I'm not wrong!
I'm sure if you repeat it enough times it'll eventually become true.

>UFO has given me the least amount of difficulty on ALL difficulties.
And I'm sure you're going to post some replays to support that, right...?

>I talk to multiple highly skilled players and the majority of them would agree UFO isn't difficult at all.
Yes, I'm sure all of your imaginary friends would agree with you buddy.

>Sure, I'll show you my LNMNB when you show me your LNMNB of EoSD.
I never said anything about EoSD though.

You are either trolling or genuinely retarded.

>> No.11234933

>>11234607
Riz said that he thinks /jp/, 4chan and everyone associated are "filth" and doesn't want anything to do with them.
He's gone reclusive and has privated and hidden everything from all except a few people.

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>>11234923
>As soon as you quit being a pretentious little cunt who has brainwashed himself with his own shitty claims

The irony of this post is astounding. I expect nothing less from a UFO lovers though. Trust me, I happen to be an expert at dealing with faggots like you~

>You're a real expert m8.

I'm glad to see that you're learning your place. That's good. Embrace it my beta little friend.


>I'm sure if you repeat it enough times it'll eventually become true.

The thing is, what I'm saying actually holds some weight, due to me saying nothing but facts. Your claims are completely baseless. Your love for UFO has clearly clouded your mind.
How does it feel to white knight a game you love so much despite being worse than somebody who barely plays it? Does it burn
as much as I imagine?


>And I'm sure you're going to post some replays to support that, right...?

Sure thing princess. As soon as you give me some replays showing me what I want to see. You claim to have vast knowledge on stg's so this shouldn't be a problem unless you're full of shit, which you no doubt are.


>Yes, I'm sure all of your imaginary friends would agree with you buddy.

I must have an awful lot of imaginary friends that I talk to in IRC then.
>I never said anything about EoSD though.

Good thing I don't give a shit about what you said then isn't it? I'm saying post your EoSD LNMNB replay, or shut the fuck up.


>You are either trolling or genuinely retarded.
I'm neither. You're the latter.

>> No.11234986

>>11234933
> /jp/, 4chan and everyone associated are "filth"
Well it's not like he's too far off..

I really liked his streams, though.

>> No.11235002

Agh, the jump from Hard to Lunatic is a big jump. I haven't even 1cced EoSD on Hard yet, but I'm thinking about just skipping over it. I've wasted enough time playing Normal and Hard as it is, so maybe it's time to play Touhou the way it's intended to be played. I don't think I'll be able to handle the Stage 2-4 restartitis though.

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>>11234986
True, all the lewdness scared him away though.

Picture not related.

>> No.11235142

>>11234923
> arguing with maze
> ever

do people not learn?

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>>11234973
I think I've figured out why you're so assblasted.
That guy I previously mentioned >>11234213, you're him.
You're that guy! I remember last time you got into a 200+ post argument with some other anons over how TD is harder than UFO and you got your ass handed to you.
So now once the dust has settled you're back for more?

>Your love for UFO
But I don't even like UFO.

>How does it feel to white knight a game you love so much despite being worse than somebody who barely plays it? Does it burn
as much as I imagine?
You're just off the fucking rails at this point.
White knight? What are you even on about?
Where did I say anything like that?
It's the most difficult game in the series, but that doesn't mean it's a good game.
Also, I like how you keep mentioning how easy it is and how much better you are than me and yet you still haven't proven anything.

>I talk to in IRC then
And you're an IRCfag to boot, great, simply epic. :V

>Good thing I don't give a shit about what you said then isn't it?
And this my mistake.
I should've done this from the very first reply you've made.
I think I'll end this before that little brain of yours fries completely.

>I'm neither. You're the latter.
#rekt #iceburn #told #devastated

>> No.11235207

How can I stop being such a commoner? What is the accepted method of practice to become really good at a game really fast, it's really confusing.

>> No.11235274

>>11235207
I'm on the snail method myself. Snail method is the best method.

>> No.11235275

>>11235207
Stage practice
Figure out the solution for every pattern
Put it all together in a full run
You are superplayer

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>>11235179
>You're that guy! I remember last time you got into a 200+ post argument with some other anons over how TD is harder than UFO and you got your ass handed to you.

Clearly you're misinformed. It was an argument with less posts than we have made in this thread with somebody that I know on IRC.


>But I don't even like UFO.

What a load of shit. You're defending it so adamantly that you clearly lust for it.


>It's the most difficult game in the series

Wrong again when will you learn?

>that doesn't mean it's a good game.

So you conceive that the game is shit? Good.


>And you're an IRCfag to boot, great, simply epic. :V

And so are you. It's blatantly obvious who you are. Did you actually think I didn't know of the few people who continually get absolutely devastated by my posts?


>I think I'll end this before that little brain of yours fries completely.

Aww what a shame. Another pleb that is going to run away. Is that how you deal with your problems?
I bet you got bullied in school.


>#rekt #iceburn #told #devastated
Yeah you definitely got bullied :^)

How pathetic do you have to be to get victimized both physically and on the internet.

>> No.11235304

>>11235274
What is the snail method? Setting your lives and bombs to 0 with cheat engine and just doing nothing but full runs?

>>11235275
I like to use stage practice a lot as it is, it's a lot of fun when you don't feel like the grind of a run. However, there's a bit of a problem with abusing it, like learning games that don't have stage practice.

>> No.11235306

>>11235275
Somewhere in there, add a "consistency grind that will never get you consistent unless you're talented." Preferably before the superplayer part.

>> No.11235341

>>11235179
First, UFO gets shat on for being a bad game and you vehemently spout "NO IT'S NOT YOU HAVE SHIT TASTE" in its defense. Now, we have you admitting that it's not a good game. You're almost dumber than the fuck you've been arguing with for the past few hours. Congratulations.

>> No.11235364

>>11235304
No. Snail method is taking it easy while gradually increasing difficulty without relying on any external tools, using all continues, and all available practice modes and not forcing yourself to play if you don't feel like playing.

>> No.11235370

>>11235341
>NO IT'S NOT YOU HAVE SHIT TASTE

Please quote me the post where I said anything like that.
I only said it's the most difficult Touhou game and that it has good music.

>Now, we have you admitting that it's not a good game

Except I'm not admitting anything.
I'm not saying it's good or bad.
What I'm saying is, just because it's hard doesn't necessarily mean it has to be good/the best.

>> No.11235407

>>11235370
Backpedaling, huh. I'll refrain from doing that though.

>> No.11235407,1 [INTERNAL] 

Jani deleted the STG thread...

>> No.11235407,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>11235407,1
I don't even care anymore

>> No.11235407,3 [INTERNAL] 

About time these subhumans moved to /vg/

>> No.11235407,4 [INTERNAL] 

>>11235407,1
99.9% chance the OP deleted it

>> No.11235407,5 [INTERNAL] 

>>11235407,4
Shut the fuck up, moot

>> No.11235407,6 [INTERNAL] 

>>11235407,1
Rule-breaking content: "STG/Touhou thread"
Jan-jan approved© content: "Patchy is a famous rapper!"
"itt, your favorite tohou quote"
"Robotech"

>> No.11235407,7 [INTERNAL] 

>>11235407,5
how did you know

>> No.11235407,8 [INTERNAL] 

>>11235407,6
>Robotech

Whats wrong with that? OP was likely banned or deleted his own thread by mistake. That is why his thread vanished.

>> No.11235407,9 [INTERNAL] 

looks like gigs!bar is about to ge ttrolled out of the unvierse again lrofkmao

>> No.11235407,10 [INTERNAL] 

>>11235407,9
Dead serious here. Do you think the janitor just deletes threads for giggles?

>> No.11235407,11 [INTERNAL] 

>>11235407,10
Yes. He's done it before. How naive are you?

>> No.11235407,12 [INTERNAL] 

>>11235407,11
I am sure you have proof that will make everyone gasp. You do know the actions of janitors are logged and the moderators can see it, right?

>> No.11235407,13 [INTERNAL]  [DELETED] 

>>11235407,11
Don't answer to him, he is samefagging again in order to get replies, because no one would respond to him anymore.

>> No.11235407,14 [INTERNAL] 

>>11235407,13
nice trashcan LMAO

>> No.11235407,15 [INTERNAL] 

>>11235407,14
I bet gigs!bar got his bff janny-kun to delete it.

>> No.11235407,16 [INTERNAL] 

>>11235407,4
Nope, I didn't delete shit.

>> No.11235407,17 [INTERNAL] 

>>11235407,16
I'm sure you didn't

>> No.11235407,18 [INTERNAL] 

>>11235407,16
You sure as HELL didn't delete shit, because it's all over the board.

>> No.11235407,19 [INTERNAL] 

nigs!bar = Janitor

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