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Who's your favorite Tactics Ogre aside from Ravness and Deneb?

>> No.11195386

Nobody likes her, but I like Kachua. She basically just wants to be loved by her brother. Why you don't marry her in the coronation ending is absurd.

The Foriner sisters are delicious, too.

>> No.11195397

>>11195386
Also, if Vice were a woman, she'd be perfect. It would explain the maniacal mood change that occurs for no reason.

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But Ravness is the best girl OP.

>> No.11195421

I still wish there could be a Ravness fig, made by Alter.

I would throw my money at the screen for it.

>> No.11195434

Canopus.

>> No.11195449

>>11195434
Yulia want.

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>> No.11199888

of only zun!bar were here!

>> No.11199907

Cressida
death march was totally worth it

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>>11195402
Get someone to rangeban this shitstain already please, thanks.

http://archive.foolz.us/q/thread/7253/#8878

>> No.11201085 [DELETED] 

>>11200571
You're going to have to prove that >>11195402 is ZUNbar.

>> No.11204393

If only ZUN!bar was here...

>> No.11204422

Everyone always says how great this game is, but I suck at it. I keep getting annihilated pretty early on. And I always thought I was good with turn-based TRPGS.

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>>11195370
>Ravness and Deneb
Peasan.t

>> No.11205736

>>11204422
If you're getting destroyed in the remake, you're not trying.

If you're getting destroyed in the original, you need more Terror Knights.

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my waifu

>> No.11205776

>>11204422
Get more archers.

>> No.11205806

>>11205776
Terror Knights, Priests, and Archers. You don't really need anything else, other than special characters.

>> No.11205809

>>11205806
Who the hell uses Terror Knights? Or priests for that matter

>> No.11205853

>>11205809
People who have played the original, where Terror Knights were walking rape machines after Ninja speed speccing, Priests had higher Int and MP growth negating the need for Heal+ in most cases after blocking your units, and Archers were overpowered beyond belief.

Throw in Denim, Haborym with Petrify, Canopus, etc., and you don't need anything else.

>> No.11205869

>>11205853
Having a few spellcasters to cast Paradigm and Charge, Teleport, using summons, is also delicious, but unnecessary. The wall of Terror Knights and Archer advance is unbeatable.

>> No.11205877

>>11205869
Use of Draconic Magic is so gamebreaking that it's not even worth mentioning. If you just want to win, Charge + Draconic Magic == Victory!

>> No.11206123

>>11205877
>Charge + Draconic Magic
How does it work?
I haven't played it in like 2 years and don't remember ever doing that.

>> No.11206176

>>11206123
Charge lets you instantly add MP to a target based on half the caster's INT. For Liches, this equates to a fucking huge amount of MP, enough to cast Draconic Magic in the first round of that character's turn. Charge is about the only reason to keep Witches around. This prevents you from having to waste item spaces on MP pots.

Make Denim a Warlock (god forbid) and use it on him, or use it on Kachua. Albeleo (sorry, Radlum) can also use Draconic Magic, due to his Warlock class, making him an alternate choice. Keep casting Draconic Magic without end, wipe out the enemy team in a few rounds.

>> No.11206189

>>11206176
One thing people don't seem to be aware of, despite its age, is that you can cast Charge on the caster who uses it. This makes Kachua her own living mana battery. Have Kachua carry Quick, Charge, and Starion or a Draconic Magic, and have fun. Quick lowers her wait time, Charge gives her mana on demand, and Starion/Wipeout/etc. let her mash faces in. Especially Starion.

>> No.11206213

>>11206176
>Draconic Magic
And what does this do?

>> No.11206247

>>11206213
Draconic Magic is the category of stuff you find in Hell's Gate. In the old game, it was separated into 4 attack spells, one for each natural element, Retissue, Entify, Dominion, and Snapshot. The 4 attack spells were the gravy of the Draconic Magic, doing high damage, hitting everything disregarding of range, and not hurting your allies. Entify brought back an ally at the cost of the caster's life, making it useless. Dominion was a supreme mez, which had some use, as its status effect was to lock the target's wait time. Snapshot was golden, turning the caster into a sword which had the exact stat bonuses of the original character, making the sword turn your equipped character into a living god.

Retissue was the most powerful spell in the original game. If you resurrected a high level character as undead, you could use Retissue to turn that character into a human again. The catch? That human was level 1. Therefore, you could take a level 50+ character, with huge stats, and turn them back to level 1, keeping all their stats. Then, you get the same stat gains all the way back to level 50.

I turned a Terror Knight into a level one Soldier, then brought him back up as a Dragoon, for more Str. He walked into crowds of 5 people and just made them cry.

>> No.11206257

>>11206247
The catch is that you can't really completely break the game (excepting Archer spam) until Hell's Gate. Once you go through Hell's Gate, the rest of the game is quite easy. Terribly, horribly easy. You can cheese everything to death before your enemy can even react.

>> No.11206267

>>11206247
>>11206257
Thank you for your informative posts about that great game.

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The archers are indeed overpowered in the TO remake and are very useful. Recruiting Ravness is pretty much a process that takes up much of the game and you have to take very specific choices to get her. One wrong dialogue choice over the course of three chapters will ruin your chance of recruiting her.

As much as I hold FFT to a high regard, I love TO more for it's gameplay, depth and difficulty.

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>>11206267
To is a very exceptionally well made game (both original and remake) and I am sure he appreciates your feedback on his advice and knowledge that he is giving.

The localization in the PS1 port of TO is beyond FFT and FF7 bad. People should be grateful TO got a remake with an excellent localization.

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>>11207555
Yeah, such a compelling and well made story.
:
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>> No.11207595

>>11207555
sup !bar?

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Sorry for the low quality pictures, I took them from the TV (using my original copy from well over a decade ago). As you can see the localization is the worst and judging by the credits only one person was in charge of localizing it.

>> No.11207747

>>11207569
And yet that comic of yours doesn't address all the issues in the story and only the points made to fit in a comic some dude wanted to make for some reason.

>> No.11207756

>>11207747
Well there are like 16 endings, what do you want me to do?!

>> No.11207767

OK, now that ZUN!bar-kun has posted, what do we do now? You guys always say that you want him to be here and then when he is here you guys don't even appreciate it!

>> No.11209033

Deneb must be goddamn old if she's around since Alphonse's time. How did she end up in Xenobia anyway?

>> No.11209038 [DELETED] 

>>11207767
if only ZUN!bar was here

>> No.11209057 [DELETED] 

If only ZUN!bar wasn't here...

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>>11212227
Shit characters thread?

>> No.11212940

I literally just started playing Tactics Ogre and went chaos route, now Ravness is dead, what a fuck man? . ZUN!bar would be ashamed of me.

>> No.11212988

Like with all these types of games you figure out something over powered and game breaking while you're trying to be as efficient as possible and then the game seems pointless

>> No.11213662

>>11212940
Shit sucks but you can go back in time at the end of the game and revisit all battles and choices and take different decisions.

>> No.11217616

>>11212940
>I literally just started playing Tactics Ogre
>black text
BS that doesn't happen till at least 15% into the game.

>> No.11219976

So I just completed the game, Olivya left with Denam to Xenobia and Ocionne gives Denam a kiss on the cheek. Isn't it sad, Catiua?

>> No.11220095

I buy tactics games and quickly remember I don't like tactics RPGs am I dumb or something?

>> No.11220503

>>11220095
Obviously - or wait, was that a rhetoric question?

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>> No.11222409

>>11219976
It was horseshit. Where's my Katchua ending? I want to become Royal Consort of Valeria. Then, off to conquer Lodis!

>> No.11223191 [DELETED] 

As I said it takes very specific steps to recruit Ravness and it's over the course of three entire chapters. It's really one of those things where you have consult a guide in order to learn how to obtain her but its worth it for the ending and having her on your team.

>>11212988
That is what I love about SRPGs because people will find a gimmick and abuse it until they reach a point where it becomes ineffective and they realize they should have expanded their classes and skills. How many people do you think honestly thought they could get through FFT just using the Monk class?

>>11220095
Keep giving them ago, I love them because I like games that make think and plan and which have beautiful storytelling. It's a very tough genre to get into but there are a lot of fantastic games.

>> No.11223210 [DELETED] 

In the original TO you had to level up each unit by itself (in the remake you can level up every unit just by what class they are) and it had a very cumbersome UI. I still loved it back in the day and I still consider it probably the definitive SPRG. The remake basically just perfected on something that was already perfect but with like a 20 page long list of gameplay changes (most notifiable is that you don't level up units individually anymore but instead by class).

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oh man. i hadn't played in months and now that i started playing i can't even remember where i was, what i was doing or what had happened before. guess i'll have to start all over.

anyway, aisha is my favorite ogre battle, but i don't think she's on tactics, so i should just go and start a new game.

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Which country would you fight for? /jp/sies sound like Bakram to me.

>> No.11225373

>>11225341
Serbia

>> No.11226120

>>11222409
>Where's my Katchua ending?
>>11207569

>> No.11226132

icycalm's reviewer said this game was bad.

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>>11223191
>honestly thought they could get through FFT just using the Monk class?

>> No.11226176

>>11226132
he proly likes fire emblem tho

>> No.11226192

>>11226132
I don't know who that is but he must be a retard

>> No.11226224

>>11226192
Owner of the most cutting edge, critical gaming review site on the Internet, so...

>> No.11226252

>>11226224
Well, as we all know, game reviewers are all complete shit.

>> No.11226268

>>11226252
He makes a point of that and explains not only in his reviews, but his articles, about why they are better.

Go here and enlighten yourself. http://culture.vg/

>> No.11226276

>>11226268
Icycalm is a colossal faggot. I got through a third of one of his reviews before concluding that everything he writes is garbage, and people only like him because he's an asshole and this is somehow funny.

>> No.11226282

>>11226276
Who cares if he's an asshole if he's right? Stop acting like a baby.

>> No.11226293

>>11226282
Because he's not right. As one example, inaccuracies in one of his articles were pointed out here: >>10914636.

Somebody who's wrong and a retard and polite is sufferable, but somebody who's wrong and a retard and an asshole is a huge fucking pain the ass.

>> No.11232470

>>11226268
>culture.vg

icy says STGs are based, but he thinks playing for score is gay and denigrates the people who do so, because he sucks balls at them

Just stop mentioning him, please. Most of the good articles on his site were stolen from EOJ and other people who actually know their shit. If you read his STG reviews and actually analyse them, they're fucking shit.

4/10

DJ Orwell and HAL9000 really fucked up, they could have gone so much deeper and then we'd never have to deal with Anthony's shenanigans ever again ;_;

>> No.11232595

>>11206267
>>11206247
I stopped playing after beating the game. Don't even bothered with Coda

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