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Old thread >>11066189

Is there a touhoumon that can be played in a DS flashcart?

>>11148252
There's that one flashcard that could emulate GBA games. That would probably work. Costs ~30 though.

>>11148086
The letters denote their form. C for Chibi (unevolved), A for Attack, etc.

Recently, I've been using the Universal Pokemon Randomizer to give myself the national dex at the start and change the starting pokemon. I like giving myself Satsuki Rin to start with, not because she's particularly good or overpowered, but because I miss her.

Poor Satsuki, doomed to have never been.

I'm still making my new Touhoumon hack. It is mostly 1.5-based with the physical/special split and lots of other changes. What would you guys like to see?

>>11148486
Doomed from the start. 1.5 is old and busted. Besides, those sprites are ugly as fuck.

>>11148500
1.8 sprites look bland and generic. And I'm looking to make a more traditional Pokemon experience.

Plus, there's no point in me making a 1.8 hack. It can't possibly compete with any of the hacks out there. Go play Emerald instead.

>>11148486
>1.5-based

>>11148510
1.8 is perfect as it is. There's no point in making a new hack.

>>11148508
Stylistically the 1.8x sprites at least match the in-game art of generation 3. There's also the issue that there aren't any 1.5x TD sprites. That said, 1.8x only has two sprites for some characters.

>>11148521
There's no point making a new 1.5 hack either. It's shit.

>>11148528
Lots of 1.5 hacks use 1.8 sprites anyways. So if people want that, it won't take me too long to change the sprites anyways.

>>11148536
What did 1.5 do to you?

I'm trying to go after a more authentic Pokemon experience with Touhou characters. If you want something completely different, play hemo's new game. But if you don't like it, you don't have to play it.

>>11148549
Why would I ever play 1.5 when 1.8 exists? I'm not a fan of imbalanced games for the sake of imbalance.

>>11148558
Whoever said you had to play it?

And what is imbalanced about 1.5? It's not any more imbalanced than regular Pokemon.

>>11148559
And the point of my hack is to make the game even less imbalanced. 1.8 is only so balanced because lots of the Touhous in each role are indistinguishable from each other.

And I came here asking a question for people interested in the idea. Not to hear a autistic shut in lecture me about how 1.5 is terrible.

>>11148559
Don't worry, I won't play it.

>>11148566
>autistic shut in

epic simply epic

>>11148569
You still haven't told me about how 1.5 is imbalanced haha.

So what's the most complete Touhoumon out there? I remember trying a couple out a long time ago but random difficulty spikes really killed it for me.

>>11148566
I have noticed that, yeah. 1.8 hacks tend to have a fair bit of redundancy, which is good in some ways, because it lets you play with your favorite Touhous without being punished, but is bad in others, because it leads to less variety.

Personally, I like playing both 1.5 and 1.8 hacks as the mood suits me. As I said in the other thread, I'd like to see less joke 'mons, Last Word versions for Touhous that don't get them, and more/more balanced unique moves. Basically some love for Touhous that don't get any, even if it's simply renaming existing moves and restricting them to certain lines, which would further reduce that redundancy you mentioned.

I'd also like to see Ten Desires characters, and, if you can manage to find a sprite artist, some Newhus as well.

>>11148580
Either Aichiya's Fire Red hack, or Agastya's Emerald hack.

http://animackid.wordpress.com/category/touhou-puppet-play-enhanced/

http://lkaexe.supersanctuary.net/thmnemer18/

>>11148584
Thanks.

I'm not sure what I'm doing about the sprites yet. I have the 1.5 sprites in an easy to load format, but I can always put in the 1.8 sprites later if people really want them.

Right now I'm trying to work with the current move already available, but I later plan on adding at least 50 moves. And I'm really trying to buff weaker Touhous like Hina and Yamame, while getting rid of some broken things like Speed Boost on Marisa. My biggest priority in this game is balance, while trying to make each Touhoumon unique.

I'm planning on adding TD characters as bonus mons. I think the art style clashses a little between 1.5 and 1.8, but not as much as some people think.

>>11148590
Thanks, I'll try the Emerald one.

>>11148607
Oh, I'd also like to see different starring area 'mons. Almost every hack uses Nazrin, Chen, Mystia, and Wriggle, to the point that you get sick to death of them. Maybe stuff like Keine, Letty, Cirno, or whatever floats your boat.

As an aside, I'd consider making Fly available to every 'mon in the hack, given that a seeming requirement to live in Gensokyo is the ability to fly.

>>11148607
Personally I'm indifferent when it comes to 1.5 vs 1.8 sprites.
Both are fine, so just use whichever you like more.
I would like to see TD characters though and having new moves would be great.
Oh and also I'd be really cool if I'd be posssible to capture all of the Touhous without having to resort to cheats.

>>11148549
I'd advise doing so, at the very least for Maribel and Renko (if applicable).

>>11148607
They will clash if everything else is 1.5x, there's also the problem of TDs only having Chibi and Normal forms, where most 1.5x hacks seemed to use C->N->EX

>>11148638
Thanks for your input! I'll definitely consider this. I really liked Aqua+Yui back when I played it, so I definitely want a variety of Touhoumon available.

And I don't think I'll give Fly to every Touhoumon (especially since I buffed the move like it is in Generation 5), but I will definitely consider expanding its coverage.

>>11148645
I will definitely have TD characters and new moves.

I will try to fill out all 386 slots, but I think some characters will be boss-only sorry.

>>11148649
I have the Maribel and Renko sprites, but I'm not very familiar with graphics editing. It's definitely on my list but not a priority.

Hatate also only has two forms in 1.5. :p

I think some things will clash, but I just want more options for everybody.

If you're adding TD chars at least make sure they're not only available in post game, when they're completely useless by then.

>>11148671
Dex completion will be a problem anyway because of Deoxys, unless you can hack around it.

>>11148694
This as a general rule, not just TDs.

>>11148722
>Dex completion will be a problem anyway because of Deoxys

Sorry I'm not realy into pokemanz.
Could you explain?

>>11148743
Four Pokemon occupying one slot. Well, one pokemon with four forms.

>>11148743
Deoxys and Mew have to be caught in a specific area or they will not obey you. I'd imagine that bred ones will also never obey, so at the very least it'll restrict what you can replace those two with.

>>11148760
That'll only be an issue if the base stats are handled weirdly. Otherwise, they'll effectively have no formes because they won't be tradeable to other games.

Does anyone here play Shoddy Touhoumon?

>>11148760
gen 3 deoxys only has two sets of stats and one form available based on the game you're playing. the problem is that yape only shows the set of stats it would have in the wild or on trainers and you have to look for the alternate forms stats in a hex editor.

>>11149805
yes

>>11148829
>>11150078
Thanks for the heads up.

Where can I find touhoumon in japanese?
My japanese spirit isn't letting me play the ones in english

>>11150815
http://loda.jp/touhouningyougeki/

I started playing the Emerald version of Touhoumon and it's okay so far. I'm loving that I got access to some of my favorite 2hus (Reisen, Tewi, and Mystia) before having to take on the first gym, but I really want a Yukari/Ran/Mokou/Meiling/Aya/Keine already.

Has anyone done a Nuzlocke run with Touhoumon? Seems like it could be a fun idea!

>>11151366
Except for Ran and Yukari, those are all available around the third to fourth gym. Keine can be obtained shortly after learning Surf.

>>11151376
Figured I'd have to wait for a while for Yukari and Ran. Excited that I don't have to wait too long for the others.

>>11150356
The other weird spaces I remember are Shedinja who always has 1HP and should be filled with Zombie Fairy, Spinda who gets random colour variation in its sprite, and also the Marill and Wobbuffet families as they have those incense evolutions. I don't remember how the last ones work, but you don't want your Toyohimes breeding into CRins.

>>11150078
Figured as much.

>>11151370
Nuzlocke Difficulty

Easy Tier
Emerald
Emerald Randomnized
FireRed with Nat Dex Enabled from beginning

Normal Tier
FireRed
Emerald Hard Mode

Dear God what are you doing Tier
FireRed Moves/Types/Stats Randomnized
Emerald Hard Mode Randomnized

>>11152037
ircc the 1.5 equivalent of the shedinja spot was a Ghosty but Mono-Ghost with Wonder Guard is hela dumb

>>11152136
Playing a game that has been carefully tuned for progress and balance with randomizer is just robbing yourself of all fun. Okay, wild Pokemon is still okay I guess, but random movesets/trainers is just way over-the-top retarded.

Could I still enjoy touhoumon if I haven't actually played a pokemon game longer than thirty minutes? Does it require you to know the ins and outs of vanilla pokemon?

>>11152217

No. You only have to know the ins and outs if you plan on doing stuff like the Nuzlocke runs, or if you're some kind of min-maxer who wants the best possible puppets. Just dive in and have fun.

>>11152228
Cool, thanks, I will.

>>11152217
You don't as long as you stick to fair hacks like Emerald. But also, if you didn't enjoy Pokémon you probably won't enjoy Touhoumon.

>>11152257
It's not that I didn't enjoy pokemon, I just never owned a pokemon game and only played them very briefly with friends.

I'm downloading the fire red version since I read it's the one updated with the TD cast.

>>11152278
You definitely want to go with the Emerald hack if you want TDs, because the FireRed one confines them to post-game.

>>11152037
Thanks.

Orsttio railway

All my pride.

>>11152530
I think I'm supposed to make some comment about filters here. So, yeah. Here it is.

I can't decide on a team.

>>11153291
Do themed teams. Like a Myouren Temple team, or a Taoist team, a Youkai Mountain team, a Human Village team, whatever.

>>11153314
Someone has done colored teams before, i.e. red hair, blue hair, green hair, and so on. I'm also a big fan of a Fairy team, though everything with an ice move will rape you thoroughly.

I hate how my team always consists of Touhou from the first two or three zones.

>>11153400
Well, learn to trade or ROM hack or cheat and don't be constrained like that. I hate it too.

Does Tewi get good in Emerald? I'm through the second gym and she's only been good when she gets lucky with a body slam or metronome.

>>11153320
Oh yeah, I managed to save all of those.

I did a few faction teams a while ago.

>>11153713

I can't find the Hakugyokurou with 6 ghosts and the Chireiden one.

>>11153752
Why isn't he using the best Eirin form?

How big is your wriggle?

>>11153752
>>11153713
>>11153645
Awesome. Kind of makes me want to play again.

>>11154035
L-lewd!

Anyone else tend to have trouble picking a form? AKanako has the brutal power I want, but her stats are pretty average aside from offense. DKanako is kinda tough for me since her offensive capabilities are weaker but her sprite is better.

Man, fuck RNG. I don't want an overleveled Tewi/Reisen, I just want Aya on my team. Wish she'd just show up already.

>>11154105
I always kind of stick with the normal form because I can't decide on one of the side evolutions. Most of the normal forms are also pretty good, so I don't see much of a problem.

>>11154119
Aya is a slut and you're better off keeping your Reisen anyway.

>>11154135
I didn't plan on ever getting rid of her, but she's past level 30 and I'm only just now in Slateport. Tewi's getting just as high. I also don't want to level her further until I get to the move deleter to get rid of the Flash that I taught her on a retarded whim.

>>11154135

I usually won't pick the normal form. For example, there's no reason for me to use regular Sanae when there's TSanae.

>>11154152
Then just put her in the box and level up something else instead, like a Nitori or something.

>>11148559
>And what is imbalanced about 1.5?
>>11148566
>Not to hear a autistic shut in lecture me about how 1.5 is terrible.

Wow can you BE any more on your period?

What does the Support Shard do in the Emerald hack? Google is failing me.

>>11154283
It evolves your touhou into a Support form.

>>11154283
It makes things evolve into their "helper" forms.
Helper forms usually learn a lot of team support moves like wish and thunder wave, and are usually more bulky than the neutral form

>>11154236
yeah ok

so what is imbalanced about 1.5?

>Caught all 2humons
>tfw sister accidentally deleted save folder
>can't recover

>>11157765
>Caught all 2humons

I don't think that's even possible.

Anyone know of a good randomizer that works for Emerald? I tried that Universal thing mentioned in the other thread, but I'd rather have the randomizer keep the evolution level intact, i.e. no grown-up forms in the first area.

What kind of team do you prefer to raise? I usually just raise one reason typed sweeper and overlevel it, but I want a more varied and balanced team this time around.

>>11157949
I prefer to raise a team of my favorite real Touhous, however they may play in game. After that, though, I like using uncommonly used or obscure Touhous that don't get a lot of love from the fandom. It's fairly balanced, so you can kind of run whatever you please.

>>11157949
Whenever I enter a new road/area I check and see if any of my favorites can be found there. I usually overlevel my old favorites looking for my new favorites because they always seem to be rare instead of common. Then I find that one broken move on each of them and abuse it whenever I can. Currently Tewi is raping everything with body slam, jump (or whatever it's called), and lucky metronomes.

>>11157949
I like having a full team. Two spots need to be taken by puppets that know fly and surf. The others are both characters I like and are fun to use. I rarely use defensive puppets.

>>11157949
Characters I like, usually sweepers, and usually 4 or less with the remaining spaces filled with pick-up or HM slaves.

>>11157949

Combination of what's good and who I like. If I like them but they are total garbage I'll reluctantly let their place be taken by somebody else. I almost disliked having Nitori on my team, my favorite Touhou, since she was always overleveled because her typing, stats, and movepool are amazing.

>>11158318
... what is the context of this picture?

>>11158335

That is a person who tells you how much your Pokemon loves you.

Is Faith & Prayer worth watching?
All I know is that is supposedly something that's based around 1.8, but was built w/ RPG maker. Besides that, nothing.
I can't imagine why we would need another 1.8 unless it actually did something new

>>11161441
Well for a start, there could be one with a Touhou story instead of the FireRed or Emerald one. Like Touhoumon Another World but not awful. Or maybe one with deeper changes to the game mechanics if anyone wants to bother doing that. Work that imagination!

>>11161441
It's a "sequel" to FireRed for lack of a better description. Most everything is the same locationally, just a different story, but the battles feel the same regardless (gyms, trainers, ect).
It's weird because he does this thing where it has 2hu puppets and normal pokemon, and both IPs "cross over" but in a half ass'd manner.

He has a demo and it may actually end up being something decent depending on how creative he gets, probably worth trying at full release.

>>11161541
You know how much time it would take to script that, right? You should play Sazanka instead.

What's the funnest Touhoumon hack that's in English?

>start World Link
>never played the old Windows games

>>11148154
I have these.

>>11163697
Never too late, anon.

Speaking of World Link, is there a list of 2hus by route/area? I can't seem to find one.

>>11163342
Hard mode Emerald 1.8xx
Just make sure to mute the emulator and play your own 2hu music

>>11163752
I don't know if you've looked here, but the World Link wiki is here. I can't remember if it has a list by area, but it seems like a good place to check.

>>11163868
All the wikis I've checked have full 2hu information on their own pages, but there's no consolidated list of wild 2hus you get per area. For example, I want to wander into route 112 and go "oh hey, I wonder what I can get here" and then go look it up easily.

>>11163697
>start World Link
Why would you do that to yourself?

>>11163934
It's not really bad so much as inconsistent. It does some things rather well, like varying up the starting 'mons rather drastically and providing some kind of post-game, but in other areas is just bafflingly awful. What the fuck is with that saltwater forest, anyways? At any rate, I had enough fun with it for one play-through, but it's not something I'd rave about.

>>11163944

I dunno if it was just me, but I thought the starters were pretty awful. Even Sanae and her terrible Beast weakness at the start was a lot easier to handle.

>>11163971
Kurumi was shit, Elly was slightly less shit, and Gengetsu was tolerable. I mean, props for picking an uncommon starting trio, but it woulda been nice if they had some sort of usefulness.

>>11163971
Well, some random NPC gave me a Miku like 10 minutes into the game and she one-shots everything. I haven't had any problems other than not wanting any of the wild Boneka yet.

>>11163978
Oh, yeah, that. That event just came outta nowhere. She one-shots everything because she has stats on par with post-game legendaries.

Which versions have yukkuri?

Moe~. Too bad she never has the +fighting hold item, this shit is taking forever.

>>11164017
she's kinda tall for a chibi

>>11164021
She's also skeletal at that height/weight.

>>11163978

I didn't want to use Miku even though she's super overpowered. I just boxed my starter and used Sunny, Luna and Star instead.

>>11164021
>>11164031
I think it's because in that version they left the heights and weights untouched, meaning that they default to whatever Pokemon was in that slot originally.

Also, Game Freak has absolutely no sense of scale whatsoever. They just kinda make numbers up.

>>11151293
doesn't load

Where the hell do you get cut in world link? Never played this version of pokeymans.

>>11164380
First or second big city. There's a building called Cutter's House.

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>>11152142
Doing a random wilds only nuzlocke is pretty fun too.

All the well designed trainer battles with all the fun of playing roulette on your catches.

not that Fire Red Gym Battles are hard

Playing the 1.8 Emerald
Any suggestions on early HM slaves?

>>11164569
Please don't make Touhous slaves.

Playing 1.812 Emerald
Any suggestions on an HM bitch?

>>11164573
Don't make Touhous bitches either.

>>11164570
>>11164576
What if they are one already?

>>11164594
Well...that's fine, I guess.

>>11164573
I don't understand why these modders aren't giving out a key items for an alternative to HM slaves.
Having to take up party slots for HM users has always been one of pokemon's worst contrivances.

>>11164630
It would be less annoying if HMs weren't almost universally shit, or if you could overwrite them. Touhoumon went a step in the right direction by making Flash a viable move, but I don't think that they went nearly far enough.

>>11164630
But you don't need all HMs all the time.

>>11164662
It is far often enough to be of great annoyance

>>11164573
pic related

>>11164573
My current HM and useful TM slaves are Nue (Fly, Thief, Shadow Dive), Aya (Secret Power, Cut, Flash, Fly), and Namazu (Waterfall, Strength, Rock Smash, Dig). Flash is basically worthless as a HM (only a single dark cave, and you can still see a little) so you can skip it if you want to try condensing all the HMs into two slaves.

>>11165551
Personally, I use Remilia (Fly, Cut, Strength, Rock Smash) and Kogasa (Surf, Shadow Dive). Too bad that none of those two can learn Waterfall. Anyway, I wholly support what >>11164630 said. Fuck HM moves, seriously. They are ever so slightly useful in Touhoumon starting with Surf (Surf has always been useful for some reason), but the fact that you cannot overwrite them has often fucked me over while leveling up my little Touhou sluts.

>>11164573
Akyuu

>>11167075

E4 team from FireRed. Had to pump them with Rare Candies at the end.

Emerald team at Lilycove, but before Winona. If Lily Black could just learn Baton Pass, it'd make great support, but right now, it's not looking too hot.

Might replace with Remilia.

Where does one aquire Touhoumon

>>11172050
You're given one at the start from the professor, others wander around in the grass, so just throw an orb and catch one.

>>11172058
Friend, please... I cannot find a valid link.

>>11172062
Have you tried looking in the archive?

>>11171940

>>11171940
That'd better just be unchanged dialogue for a Shellder, it doesn't make a lick of sense.

>>11171940

>>11171940

>>11167075
Wow, you're mean!

>>11172197
I'm pretty sure it's unchanged dialogue for a Clamperl, actually. I had to look it up to remember the name, but it's pretty much Generation III's Shelder.

>>11172171
>>11172212
>>11172265
Can you stop with the samefagging?

>>11171940

>>11172782
I doubt it. You couldn't find wild gen III pokemon in Fire Red. And why would a gen I remake not use shelder/cloyster?

>>11173044

I could be wrong, but probably because that's the Emerald hack. FR/LG and RSE had different water animations. I haven't played them in a long time though.

I don't see why that wouldn't be the Emerald hack, since even though Shellder and Cloyster were clam-like, they didn't have anything to do with pearls.

>>11173098
no, that's most certainly the Fire Red hack. Emerald's water looked like this.

Any what do you mean Cloyster doesn't have anything to do with pearls? It's body is literally a black pearl with a face

>>11173311
I always thought it was a vagina

>>11172020
Neat. I love saving images of championship teams. Nice shiny.

Where can I play this?

>>11174259
Have you yet seen fit to google "Touhoumon"? It may behoove you to do so first. I'm more than happy to talk about which versions I like or the merits of them, but c'mon. Show a little initiative here.

>>11173956

This is the only team you need.

>>11174369
>I'm more than happy to talk about which versions I like or the merits of them, but c'mon
Do that.

>>11174703
Did you try this with Emerald's hard mode? I did and got stomped all over the place. If you did, I'd love to hear of the moveset you used.

>>11174728
for future reference searching the archive is always a good idea: https://archive.foolz.us/jp/thread/9957195

Taken from that OP, an overview of Touhoumon Hacks: http://pastebin.com/iFfKieYi

>>11174703
always the best

>>11174735
I'm curious, so what approach works in hard mode?

>>11174982
Well, item usage is banned in battles, battle mode is forced to Set, natures are hidden but you can take a guess at those from the base stats. The most important change is that you won't have stat advantages against the AI because EVs are disabled.

Basically, try and get something with decent IVs if you can, and play as if you're taking on real players.

>>11175723
On, and your starter 'mon has a Macho Brace on because Agastya has a sick sense of humor. Be sure to take it off so you're not stuck wondering why you always go second.

>>11175723
Which isn't exactly fair, because unlike you, the AI trainers have access to all the puppets, evolutions, held items and TMs that they could wish for. So, pretty much every single Touhou the Elite 4 fields against you is perfectly capable of killing two thirds of your team thanks to perfect offensive type coverage if it happens to be faster - which it often will be, unless you overleveled yours like crazy.

>>11175748

I can't really think of a way to make Pokemon difficult without resorting to artificial difficulties like Nuzlocke. If anything, those changes to the gameplay just make it more tedious.

>>11175748
What are you, a Communist? Of course there will be trainers better off than you, and the Elite Four are going to be hard. That's true even without the hard mode patch. At least it's still a pretty fair balance compared to other high difficulty hacks, and of course it's optional.

Questions actually, with hard mode, can you use items outside of battle, and are the X form Touhous unchanged?

>>11175804
>can you use items outside of battle
Yes.

>and are the X form Touhous unchanged
I don't think it any Touhous were changed (besides the EV thing).

Now, here's something I don't know about the EV thing because I haven't really tested it yet. Is it possible to disable them altogether, or did he just alter all the Touhous so that none of them provide any EVs when you defeat them? Because if it's the latter, Carbos and Zinc and the like would still provide EVs, up to 100 per stat. It's still not much compared to what you get from battles, but it's nothing to sneeze at, either.

Any suggestions on what to do with a kogasa?
1.8 Hard Emerald if it matters

>>11175909
Release or put in the box.

>>11175909
Hug her tightly and don't let go.

>>11175909
She has HP out the wazoo, so maybe Curse - Mystic Water - Substitute - Shadow Ball, while holding Leftovers? She'll heal 1/8th of her HP per turn, while her opponent will lose 1/4 of her HP per turn, and will find it difficult to do much damage through the Substitute. She has poor defenses, though, so I'm not sure how well it'd work.

>>11175898
He probably edited the items as well. Though I haven't tested it myself, but it would be too much of an oversight.

>>11175909
Surf, surf, surf, surf. She sucks. Not my dick, unfortunately.

>>11176003
You'd be surprised at what people overlook. I'll test it today or tomorrow and give a report.

>>11175748
AI trainers don't get Potion-type items either, so it's probably not as bad as you think.

>>11175804
>can you use items outside of battle
Healing items can be used freely outside of battle.
>are the X form Touhous unchanged?
X forms are impossible to capture in Hard.

>>11175898
I disallowed using the vitamins. You can still use Rare Candy, though.

>>11176008
>>11176007
Nevermind then! I guess I won't have to test anything.

>>11176008
Oh, and while you're here, I have a minor request for the next version, if you're going to make one. Would you consider replacing the various Pokemon in the overworld with Touhoumon sprites? Because it's somewhat jarring to see Mr. Briney worrying over his seagull, or a Pikachu frolicking at the Daycare Center. Because that's one of the few things that Aichiya's hacks have over yours. I like that you edited the dialogue manually, though, in addition to doing a replace-all to get rid of Pokemon references. Sometimes that isn't enough, and stuff slips through.

>>11176013
I'd have to second this. I'd also request a music mod, although I know you're not into that.
It may seem like dumb busy work, but honestly it is something a lot of us appreciate.

>>11176008
Oh, and the most important question of all, while we still have you tied down.

wich 2humon wud u fugg??

>>11176013
I didn't do any replace-alls, I went through the entire script. I like to pretend that puppets still exist alongside pokemon, but the pokemon you see are more used for pets and not battle machines. Any references to actual pokemon should be contextually proper.

I mostly just don't want to deal with OW sprites because Emerald uses a different palette set than FR does and I'm worried about breaking regular person OW sprites.

As for the music, I can't stand the remixes in the JP hacks. They use far too few sound channels and are exceptionally loud, and I don't know the first thing about music hacking to "fix" them myself. (That and it would take a lot of space that I don't want to use)

There will be another release though, I still plan on enabling the Aurora/Eon Ticket-related events in the future.

>>11176028
brutally hatefug helper eirin for annihilating half the teams i build

>>11176041
Fair enough. It'd be nice if some NPC let us know that regular pokemon still exist as pets before we meet Mr. Briney, though, just so it's not a surprise. I am impressed that you went through the whole script by hand, though; I think most everyone else really did just do a replace-all.

God, playing through Emerald again just reminds me of how colossally retarded Teams Aqua and Magma are. Team Rocket wasn't subtle, and the low-ranking members were pretty dumb, but at least they made some kinda sense.

>>11176041

>>11176008
You can disable item use in battle? How so? I'm very curious. I'm also wondering how you can force set mode.

So, anyone has a randomizer that isn't written in Java? I don't want to install that piece of unsecure shit software anymore.

>>11176041
>As for the music, I can't stand the remixes in the JP hacks. They use far too few sound channels and are exceptionally loud
shamelessly steal Aiychia's casual music patch

The only limitations about the hacks that I don't like is the lack of easily available Gen 4/5 abilities

I would give Tewi Super Luck and Minoriko Harvest.

Are there any advances to Puppet Play currently in development?
I don't suppose we could ever expect gen 4+ mod?

>>11176140
Well, there's this, but it's a stand-alone game rather than a romhack. It's Touhoumon but without the reliance on Gamefreak.

http://www.fo-lens.net/yumekake/top.html

>>11176140
I can't think of many good reasons to do a generation 4+ hack, but can think of bad ones: Difficult/impossible to trade between games in emulators, more ponderous gameplay and less fast-forward, much more complex to hack, easier to just start a new game as with >>11176150

>>11176234
The only thing I would like to see is being able to have more than 386 mons available in game. There has been basic development in this area, but all of the hackers have stopped working on it.

Well my HDD just shit itself and I lost my Touhoumon Emerald save and everything else .

Is there an easy way to hack myself my old mons/more exp or am I going to have to do it the old fashioned way and grind it all back?

>>11177906
VBA has inbuilt Gameshark/Codebreaker functionality. Just get a pile of rare candies and go nuts.

>>11148262
Hey, what flashcard can emulate GBA games, by any chance? Do you remember the name?

>>11178533
supercard dstwo

You can also do a ton of emulation on the psp

>>11179593
Ah, thank you kindly. It's a shame that none of the sites that sell it seems to accept Paypal.

Havent played it in a while, any new ROMs? I play on my hacked psp

>>11181926
No. I post from my hacked psp

Hey, where can you find the various stones in Agastya's Emerald hack? I've found three up to Lillycove, but there weren't any being sold in the department store. Do you buy theme somewhere else, or are they strictly a finite resource?

I tried using the Universal Pokemon Randomizer on Agastya's Emerald, but the thing doesn't want to save the ROM if I randomize wild encounters, which is what I really want. Is there a way to do this or am I fucked?

>>11182359
There are certain features that just aren't compatible. I had that issue at first, but after fiddling around with the options and keeping the fancy stuff to a minimum I managed to randomize the wild encounters. I think I picked Area 1-1 mapping or somesuch.

>>11182361
Alright, I'll fuck around with it a bit more. It seemed like if I put on any options for randomizing trainers didn't work either, but if I left them all off it did.

>>11182353
Shortly before the city after Lilycove (forgot the name again), you'll find a lone house by surfing around the islands outside. Within, you'll find a few guys who will each exchange a few UFOs (of the red kind, I think?) for an evolution shard. Before that, the only way to get shards is to steal them from certain Touhou (at 5% chance, usually). For example, CUtsuho has Attack Shard. Refer to the docs for others.

>>11182369
I did not have any problems with "Global 1-to-1 mapping". Did not touch any of the other options.

>>11182436
Yeah, they'll trade them for Red UFOs.

The Nue's you can catch at the Safari Zone have a 100% chance of holding a Red UFO, but good luck with that.

Just how freaking lucky am I? Okay, which is the best Medicine form?

>>11183002
So jelly. I want a shiny.

>>11183002
And by "best", I naturally mean "sexiest".

>>11183002
Very. Nurture and treasure her.

>>11183054
Well to maximize your chances, play more and try not to avoid wild encounters and abuse fast-forward. Don't go out of your way to look for them though they are insanely rare. Also don't bother with tricks like egg hatching or RNG abuse, the latter doesn't work in Emerald, and both take all the enjoyment out of finding one.

>>11183002
medicine is really versatile, ingame you can fit her onto just about any kind of team and be successful since she has so many forms

what you should do with her depends entirely on what kind of team you're planning. if you want >>11183101 though it should obviously be tech since it's one of the better sprites she has.

>>11183133
Hey could you still explain how to force set mode and disable item use in battle? Is there a tutorial somewhere? Thanks.

>>11183177
disabling item use in battle is done by editing item data structures to make it think in battle, the hyper potion the player is trying to use should be treated the same as trying to use a mach bike.

forcing set mode involves breaking a check in the game that looks to see if the player is on shift or set. i didn't do the main meat of it, doesntknowhowtoplay did, so unfortunately i can't really help much there.

in an earlier build of hard though we broke the wrong check, so stuff like confusion was identical to being slept and full paralysis would never happen. fun stuff.

>>11183184
I'm enjoying hardmode, I like how you no longer have to worry about EV training.

>>11183204
Why would you worry about EV training in a regular playthrough? The game really isn't hard enough to bother about it. I make sure to get a good nature if I can, but EV training is unnecessary.

>>11183204
Can't argue with that. Being able to pick up a newhu and it being ready to be used alongside your normal team just like that is kind of nice. Now if only the AI wouldn't fuck up leveling so much. Then I wouldn't have to take every damn Touhou to the move tutor.

>>11183204
ev training ingame is complete overkill if you aren't doing the battle frontier.

>>11183206
Because you will inevitably notice a difference in power between Touhou that you have had for a long time an Touhou you just picked up. And, what's the point in picking up a weaksauce Touhou?

>>11183206
EVs are inevitable just from playing. If you're only focusing on a few Touhous they'll probably be maxed out by the time you do the Elite Four.

>>11183184
Thanks. I will look into that.

How would you guys feel about potentially making something more original using the touhoumon essential assets (or something of that sort) in RPG maker?

>>11183539
If it's done with RPG maker, it's shit. No exceptions.

>>11183553
Why?

>>11183539
Do it.

>>11183553
Fuck you.

>>11183553
>If it's done with RPG maker, it's shit. No exceptions.
Maybe specifically with Touhoumon essentials, on an visual aesthetic level at least. It has A LOT of missing battle animations. Basically it's pretty similar to having Battle Scene set to OFF all the time. Some care, some don't.
Couple nice things about it is that you can have a button for frame-skip (which doesn't fug the audio like VBA.) It also doesn't have a lot of the limitations that the romhacks have, like the audio/bgm limitations (limited sound channels, ect.)
Its also easier to deploy new mechanics/contrivances, IE getting an Axe to use instead of having to depend solely on an HM slave for Cut (something I think Faith & Prayer is doing.)

>>11183553
Even Ao Oni, the scariest game ever?

>Ao Oni
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>11184405
>Ao Oni
>Scary
top lel

>>11183553
>If it's done with RPG maker, it's shit. No exceptions.

Yume Nikki? Violated Heroine?

>>11184464
you didn't name any exception

>>11184479
holy smokes

>>11184345
in theory it wouldn't be hard to make items replace hm moves for overworld sprite interactions in gba games, i believe it has been done before

it's just a matter of effort and replacing existing items

>>11184345
Touhoumon Blue already has items replacing HMs thouhg.

>>11185749

Do you happen to have a link for it? Everything I've found links to his wordpress, which is now deleted, apparently.

>>11185805
It apparently has washed away with the tides of the internet

>>11185805
It should be part of this Touhoumon collection a kind anon put together last year: http://www.mediafire.com/?33p16795wtp4plx

>>11183539
The japs are already working on that apparently
[can't be arsed to find the site/picture]

>>11186310
Already linked.
>>11176150
http://www.fo-lens.net/yumekake/top.html
Coming out next year as a doujin game, I believe. I think I might buy it.

>>11185749
No it doesn't! What it does is makes the mainland a lot more open so they aren't required as much, except for Surf. They were also improved a lot so they're actually worth using in battle, except perhaps Cut.

>>11187676
You don't even need Surf; there's an underground passage from Fuchsia to Cinnabar.

I'll be the first to admit I don't know shit, so quick question
Currently playing 1.812 emerald
I have a cSatori, and for evolutions it's willing to eat a tech shard (to evolve into tSatori) but I can't feed it a defense shard (to evolve into dSatori).
What am I missing here?

>>11185805
Here it is

http://www.mediafire.com/download/wnbfuxk6k86zafz/1.5_Blue.gba

>>11188957
you likely patched hard mode.

Any good ideas on what to do with Letty?

Is there a chart or list I can look at that shows what level my chibi forms are supposed to evolve? Or am I just going to have to keep knocking out levels?

>>11191902
A few are listed here: http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/wiki/Touhoudex

For the rest, the quickest way to find out is to open the ROM with YAPE.

>>11191921
Thank you, this helps a lot.

>>11191902
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhoudex_2/Touhoudex_2

>>11191774
refrigerate your box

I've been playing World Link 1.42 as of late and now I'm curious. Anybody know which game is the best to run a Nuzlocke challenge on?

>>11192936
If you think you're man enough, Hard 1.812 Randomized.

You won't be man enough.

For a slightly less terrifying run, I'd do Blue version or Aichiya's Fire Red hack, both of which you've altered to give yourself the National Dex right from the start.

>>11192936
Any hack as long as it's a fair one.

>>11192993
Which one is his Fire Red hack?

>>11191774
rot in the thrash 2hus box

man I want to randomize moves and stats so bad, but it seems it's not working on emerald.

>>11193595
if your autism if high enough use this http://www.randomnumbergenerator.com/ and YAPE to randomize manually.

Kyouko annihilates everything after she gets Hyper Voice, my goodness.

>>11194504
As I recall, she gets it pretty early and it's a really damaging move. She trails off towards the lategame with her sub-par stats, but she'll carry you quite a ways, I reckon.

>>11194541
She nearly took out the fifth gym leader all by herself. I had to switch to Rin for his Yukari though.

>>11194541
Yup. Her usefulness is kinda like a bell curve, but man when she's good she's good.

>Okay time to go to the Seafloor Cavern!
>None of my Pokémon can learn (Shadow) Dive.

>>11194893
I was going to make fun of you, but then I actually went and looked at the number of Touhous that can learn Shadow Dive, and decided to hold my tongue. They are, according to the wiki, as follows:
Rumia
Mystia
Kogasa
Akyuu, but she can learn everything and isn't even available yet
Mima
Yuyuko
Tojiko
and the various associated forms of each.

Pretty slim pickings in a game with like 400 'mons to choose from.

>>11195210
I still don't get why Mystia can learn it.

>>11195219
And Murasa can't, which is even more baffling.

Why do I have to right my six-puppet rival right after barely making it through the weather station. That was some unexpected bullshite.

>>11195875
Rivals are made to fuck you up

>>11195875
The bed in the weather station works exactly like a Pokemon Center. You can sleep in it and heal up perfectly.

>>11195875

That rival fight was straight out of the original, and you can heal at the weather station.

>>11196054
I've never played the original, so it took me by surprise and I didn't know about the bed either.

>>11195987
that picture is epic thank you for poasting it

which version do you play, /jp/?
can you give me the link? preferably the latest translated version

>>11196154
Read the thread you lazy bugger.

>>11194893
>>11195210

I assume Shadow dive probably would of been called shadow force for the creator's hack like the english name of Giratina's signature move but it wouldn't be as obvious to figure out that you can dive with a move called Shadow force for some people.

Plus i'm pretty sure the move wasnt actually meant to be used like an HM since you cant get the dive hm in the original touhoumon 1.8 fr hack. (unless i'm completely wrong which if i am oops)

>>11198867
No, I've looked through the moves, Dive has been renamed to Shadow Force in 1.8.

But my fix would be to make Shadow Force a new move in Emerald.

I'm confused as to which version should I play?

any suggestion, fellow trainers? and download link as well if you can.

>>11203345

Touhoumon Blue if you're bad. The 1.8 ones for FireRed and Emerald are pretty basic and would be a good starting point.

And read the thread you ignoramus

>>11203345
Oi. Read the thread. If you do a quick search for www, on the off-chances that someone has asked this exact question, you'd find this link.
>>11186073

>>11203440
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/wnbfuxk6k86zafz/1.5_Blue.gba

>start emerald touhoumon
>pick Sanea because why not
>tackle is super effective on her

What the actual fuck.

>>11205057

slutjoke.jpg

>>11205057
tackle is "Beast type" which is super effective against Sanae's "Shinto type". Yeah, kinda makes grinding for levels at the start of the game a pain. At least she's strong against fire, water and Wind.

>>11205057

Yeah, that was a retarded idea, but she gets better, especially if you get a Tech Shard. TSanae is pretty good.

I'd tackle Sanae's behind, if you know what I mean.

>>11205095
I'd put my erect penis inside of her quivering anus if you know what I mean

Safety bump.

>>11205100
i dont get it
what do you mean?

>>11205057
catch a random 2hu and release her or let her rot in the box.

>>11210963
It's too late for that now.
Of course her nature is FUCKING IMPISH.

>>11211111
It could be worse, she could be Naughty.

>>11148154
bump

>>11211111

That's why I despise natures.

I've tried to get into Touhoumon a few times but its just too fucking grindy for me. Is the Emerald romhack any easier than the FR/LG one?

>>11211439
pls go

>>11211439
The FR/LG one shouldn't require any grinding outside of the first gym, and that's not even that bad thanks to emulator speed up.

>>11211451
I havent played it in a while, but it was the 3rd or 4th gym I kept getting my shit completely pushed in.

Man, I've had a hankering for a Pokemon game lately. Wish emulators weren't so scary.

>>11211424
No kidding. Fuck natures.

>>11211483
They aren't really that bad. Assuming you're using 1.8, it's only like 5 steps total, all of which are easy enough for someone to explain to you.

>>11211456
Well, I had an Attack Keine by Misty so maybe that's some of it. As for Emerald the only spot you may have to grind for is the electric gym, in my view.

Oh yeah, were you using the trainer rematch feature in FR/LG? That makes grinding extremely fast.

>>11211513
Dunno if I'd be using 1.8.

>>11211527
Then it's even easier, as most of the good 1.5 hacks don't need to be patched

>>11211542
No, I mean i don't know which version/patch/hack/whatever I'd be using.
But I'm looking into it, sorta! I'm not like all those guys who want to be spoon fed, really!

>>11211548
well, spoonfeeding or not; 1.8 is better balanced, but 1.5 has more variety. Either way, Emulators are way easier than you'd think they'd be

What was the first touhoumon you played?

>>11211560
Either Aqua Yui or Merry's, but back before Hatate was a Mon.

Which touhoumon do you think is the current best?

So to be clear...
1.5 and 1.8 mean the difference between the Touhous and moves and typing and all that. The hack determines how the actual game plays out; dialogue, where Touhous are found, what trainers have, etc. Right?

>>11211606
The number refers to the version of Puppet Play (the main hack) that the hack was based on. But yeah that's pretty much it. For more info on that and on individual hacks read this: http://pastebin.com/iFfKieYi

>>11211619
Huh. What a can of worms I've opened.

Are the Touhoudexes on the wiki accurate? No TD and especially no Kasen? I am upset.

>>11211665
Those dexes are based on puppet play, and yes pp doesn't have either. Other hacks have added them though. The most (only?) notable implementation being the 1.8 Emerald hack. Here's the dex for that one, check the end: http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/wiki/Touhoudex

>>11211725
Then that's the hack for me, then. Post-game Kasen still makes me upset, though.
...what wonky movesets. I'm looking at you, Aya.

>Those dexes are based on puppet play, and yes pp doesn't have either. Other hacks have added them though.
This baffles me, though. Puppet play? I thought all of this was puppet play.

>>11211790
>I thought all of this was puppet play.
It is in a way. Puppet play established all the details like base stats, movesets, etc. Other hacks have built off that foundation/modified it is all. In the case of Emerald this obviously involved putting all this into an entirely different region.

You could hack Kasen in if you wanted, though I'm ignorant about how you'd do that. Some guy in the previous thread got a shiny Kasen as a starter.

>>11211905
As am I.
Looking through that dex I'm finding lots of questionable movesets. Is that a common thing?

>>11211936
You specifically mentioned Aya. What do you find questionable about it? I don't see anything really.

I'm completely new to touhoumon, and want to try it out

I want to try out 1.8, but I can't find a download of it. Could someone point me to a download of the english version?

>>11211991
>>11211991
...looking at it again, I'm not sure what I meant. I was thinking "physical stats but naught but special attacks? Madness!" but that's not really the case. Maybe I was just bummed at the lack of attack power compared to other Touhous? Can't not use my favorite, and yet...

On that note...in the actual Pokemon games the strategy is usually just get a bunch of quick/somewhat durable heavy hitters and steamroll everything. No need or much use for anything but attackers. Is that true for most Touhoumons too?

>>11212033
If you want more power try Technical Aya. She also learns nasty plot for some reason if you want to get cute.

I can't say the general strategy for in-game play has changed much. I mean the AI is the same. The difficulty is better though and enemy movesets are more varied so you do have to think a bit more. If you wanted to try something different you could give the hard mode patch for emerald a shot. EVs are disabled, item use in battle is removed, and set mode is forced. I've not tried it myself but I imagine you'd have to approach battles more competitively.

>>11212000
Check the pastebin posted a few posts above for info and links

>>11212092
>Check the pastebin posted a few posts above for info and links

Thanks, I missed that.
If you don't mind me asking, which of those hacks do you think is best for a first-time player?

>>11212092
Oooh, hard mode. Interesting.
Are the stones for these evolutions something that are readily available? I haven't touched in Hoenn in ages, but I recall the department store coming fairly late in the game.

>>11212119
Either Puppet Play Enhanced or Emerald. Both are great. Enhanced has a bit more "surface polish" with a custom soundtrack and whatnot. Emerald allows all evolutions from the get-go and generally has more interesting/diverse battles. Again though, you can't really make a wrong choice.

>>11212131
You're not going to be drowning in them but they're there. Attack shards and Rainbow shards in particular are scarce. This is only earlier in the game though. By the time you reach the ocean you can obtain them without much fuss.

>>11212160
Thanks, I'll check those hacks out.

How disheartening it is to look at the balanced pokedex and see how weak some Touhous I want to use are.

>>11212160
All right. Thanks for all the help; I'll see if I can be assed to figure out an emulator.

>>11212230
Some are better than others, but most are still viable. Which ones are you looking at?

>>11212253
Tokiko, Koakuma.

>>11212271
Even they're not completely shit. Tokiko can learn Belly Drum as an egg move and has decent enough HP and Attack stats, especially if you feed her an attack shard, and Koakuma's Helper form is an excellent supporter, given that she learns Light Screen, Reflect, Amnesia, Mana Charge, Baton Pass, and all sorts of party-boosting moves.

>>11212335
>Even they're not completely shit
;_;

I just don't get why the hack still has these shitty beginner mons. The actual games need weak bidoofs and stuff so the player will keep playing the game looking for the cool/strong pokemon they actually want. Gotta keep them playing, you know?
But here? Pointless.

>>11212369
See, the difference between these guys and Bidoof is that Bidoof is unusably awful and looks like a doofus, while Koakuma and Tokiko are usable as long as you're not playing in hard mode or against other people.

The gap between a good Pokemon and a bad Pokemon is vast and uncrossable, whereas the gap between a good and a bad Puppet is far more minimal.

>>11211513
So about those 5 steps...

>>11212666
Nearly all the downloads come with a step-by-step guide with screenshots.

>>11212682
1.8 Emerald don't.

Step 1: Download this file >>11186073
Step 2: Read FAQ
Step 3: Follow FAQ
Step 4: Pat self on the back for a job well done.
Step 5: Play the Touhoumon of your choice.

I'm only not mucking about trying to explain it here because the various FAQ's provided in that download explain in in far more detail than I ever could.

>>11212753
Bit of a roundabout, but I think it worked. To bad the sound sounds like ass, but I think that's the emulator.

Sanae is weak to tackle. Oh good.

>>11211439
Emerald is pretty fair when it comes to leveling. But if you hate it that much, play Blue version. Apart from the much higher experience offered, there's nothing stopping you from going to a harder area. FR/LG also has the wonderful wonderful Vs. Seeker.

>>11211560
Don't know what version exactly but it only included the SA characters, and the bikers were very fond of Kaguyas.

>>11212978
GBA sound isn't particularly good on the real systems.

Man. Found three Momijis in the first part of the game, before you get your balls, then once I can actually catch her she's nowhere to be found. Mean.

>>11212369
If you're so dissatisfied, get a copy of YAPE and you can edit all of the stats yourself.

>>11215510
But that's cheating.

That feel when you find your favorite Touhou but realize that the other Touhou who's been filling in for her is just flat out better.

This thread will eventually die. Think we should do another one soon or wait for a little while?

>>11221882
There's not that much interest anymore so I don't think a new thread is necessary right now.

>>11221989
Figures interest wanes as soon as I start playing.

>>11223745

There's honestly not that much worth discussing. Anything worth looking over was (probably) already posted in the thread. It's more or less just the same old Pokemon, but with Touhous instead.

>>11223763
Bah. There's always stuff to say. Like...

>>11154169
>>11205094
What's so great about Tech Sanae?