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>not Sonic Stream
no your not cool

Sanae: and then we were brutally raped by those 3 sisters one hundred times just because you two didn't help us.

Download link: http://www.4shared.com/folder/eAB1gLLj/GoSEng.html (ver 3.0, already with Eng patch)
Wiki page: http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/The_Genius_of_Sappheiros (contains lots of useful information)
Game tables, damage formulas and other in-depth stuff: http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,10383.630.html (scroll down to the pastebin links)

But playing with Satori and Byakuren is much more fun.

>>11122556

I chuckled. Probably because I'm relieved.

>>11122577

I wouldn't know though, would I? I'll definitely use them next time I decide to do a playthrough, but for now, expansion time!

Is there some recommended order to do this, or should I just try to get my main party back first? Judging by the first 5 battles I've had with Lithos, she seems just a bit overpowered!

>>11122779
Go for Remi+Flan as soon as they appear, please.

You did it nice job congratulations.

>>11122779
The difficulty stars are a pretty good suggestion. It's more of a test on how well do you grasp the mechanics of the characters.

why is this game so meticulous
I've given it several tries but ended up quitting about half way through each time because managing all the characters was so unnecessarily tedious.

>>11122961
How so?

And grats OP. Pretty impressive.

>>11122961
There's a bunch to manage, sure, but not everything has to be 100% optimal all the time. That's only necessary for some boss fights really. Also grats OP, I'll be at the expansion soon enough! Going to try to get it done with my characters in the low 60's, and afterwards switch to weekend so I can get some goddamn advanced exclusive character-specific items.

This is assuming all main game locations are immediately accessible in the expansion. If that isn't the case I might go ahead and switch.

>>11123021
>afterwards switch to weekend so I can get some goddamn advanced exclusive character-specific items.
Wait, nevermind. I can't find anything on there being a drop-rate difference and apparently these items are far easier to get in the expansion anyways.

>>11122961
It was bothersome at first, then. I figure managing things is what I like the most. I wish I know which character to invest time though. There are many ways to play this.

>>11122809
>>11122913

I'll keep it in mind.

>>11122818
>>11122995

You haven't seen the best part yet. I'll upload it when I wake up!

>>11122478
OP of the previous thread here. I say I'm really impressed with you. Too bad my Internet died last Thursday and will have to wait till Thursday for it to be fixed. I can't wait to see you strategy for fighting the Terminator and the dude who gives Obsidian drops since you're not using the main debuffers (Satori & Byakuren). I'm sure Reisen will suffice.

I'm on the second sister in stage 20, and while she cant kill me when i have my spells up i seem to stay alive until my whole party runs out of mana/bombs then i die slowly. Im about level 55 and so far i havent had to grind for anything yet, I'm wondering if other people completed it at this level or if I'm just using the wrong group makeup. Alice/Mokou/Sakuya/Patchouli/Sanae Moriya wall.

What is the gameplay in this based off of?

>>11124118

I used this composition >>11113849

I mean, I was just dicking around and not having any heal or revive is pretty dumb, but she took so much damage so fast it didn't matter. She's weak to blunt and water so using Byakuren to enwater mokou and then letting volcanos rip destroys her. Also patchy for water damage and field nonsense. Just blast her weaknesses, really.

Oh, and your level sounds about right. Is Sakuya even doing anything in your party? That spot may be better served with Byakuren or more water damage. Synth some gear maybe? My Mokou had a good fist. Lastly be sure someone has reraise on them when the boss dies.

>>11124150
Romancing Saga

>>11124150
Romancing Saga and a couple other RPGs.

>>11124118
You should be able to finish the pre-expansion final boss at lv60 below.

As for tips against the boss, she's weak to blunt and water damage, she also has pretty good defense stats so you may want to have Byakuren or some other girl that can debuff her defenses. She also uses a move that can pretty much wipe your whole party before or after dying. I kinda forgot which, but I'm pretty sure she will trigger it as some kinda parting gift to you. Protecting your party with Alice's Little Legion should help you get through it.

>>11124211
>>11124193
Thanks for the advice, my patchy deals pretty low damage for some reason. I dont think i have terrible gear on her but my water spells are dealing 1-2k usually which isnt going too fast, and mokou can deal upwards of 5k with a volcano. I'll have to play around and see if i cant buff up my casters a bit.

>>11124231
Try using Patchy's Arctic Chill to boost your water damage even more.

>>11124231
Just got mokou 6 more bombs and the fight was the easiest one in awhile. Wish me luck with the last bosses.

Playing this game for the first time.

Please help me I am inept. The Wiki's explanation isn't helping me.

>>11124546
Just keep messing with switches until it's open.

If a switch seemingly blocks the route you used to get to the spot you're currently at in the picture, then that's probably the right switch and you need to navigate around to that point again through other means to go through the no open gate.

>>11124546
I'm stuck at the same part. Did you ever figure it out?

>>11124546
That stage is complete horseshit. I don't remember the exact way to do it but you'll sometimes have to hit a switch and then enter the second stage from a different location to make progress. I think once you get past the part you're at it gets a bit easier, good luck.

>>11124427
It really is. Her thing is field effects but those can be overwritten so easily.

>>11124546
>>11125378
If you go south, you should be able to see a switch.

That's the one.

>>11124546
I actually drew out that entire stage just to cross that single fence. And a few other times in the game because I wasn't with internet for a very long time. I think my sketches are still sitting in a tent on a FOB somewhere in bumfuckistan.

>>11125534
>my sketches are still sitting in a tent on a FOB somewhere in bumfuckistan
Maybe the natives find them and start to worship 2ho.

Here it is, as promised(if anyone was still curious). As you can see, I actually almost one-partied all three phases because of an early party swap needed due to terrible RNG. I have no idea why I kept going, but I'm glad I did! It was actually the first time getting Mokou to phase 3. I did not expect her hitting for 6k-11k on every turn, and I did not expect Youmu to crit for 15k+ with multiple double attacks happening as well. Admittedly I did kind of overlevel the fight(81 on those four minus Mokou), but I'm confident I could have actually done it at around 70 with this "tactic".

>>11124065

Well, I have to say it feels good to be aknowledged despite my countless failures! If you're actually interested in seeing how I do in the expansion I'll gladly keep posting!

>>11126446
How many hours did it take you from the beginning?

>>11126525

Currently sitting at 95 hours played, so I guess it would be around 90 hours! That's a good 5 hours of unnescessary grinding too, mind you.

>>11126446
Playing the game without any grinding + all the characters is a whole new experience.

>>11126535
Congrats on completing the main game without using Satori and Byakuren. That's pretty much a challenge run thinking about it. You really should give them a proper playthrough eventually though.

I completed the main game at around 40-60 hours, not that I remember too clearly.

I played while intensely spoiling myself and avoiding grinding to the point I was underleveled for every single dungeon. I had to grind Mokou just to get Fujiyama Volcano for needle maid.

I think I reached the actual Gorgon barrier around 40 hours then grinded a lot since everyone was still 50 and below except for Alice at 53. I then grinded until everyone was 60-70 then beat the final boss's second and third phases first try without kusanagi or medoroa. Aya, Satori, and Reimu working in tandem is virtually impossible to damage in any significant way which is what I had for the first party. Youmu and Byakuren combined pretty much wrecked the final phase effortlessly.

I was attempting to farm a high ribbon, but I never got one to drop until after beating the final boss which is where I think most of the grinding came from. That and attempting to kill one of every miniboss. Only managed around half of them before just going for the final boss.

>>11127488

I guess you could indeed call it a form of a challenge run. A bit of an odd decision to make my first playthrough hard for myself like that, but I just got caught up in it I suppose! I certainly will play it again "properly" at some point.

By "intensely spoiling" yourself, I assume you checked tactics etc. on the wiki. For shame! I admittedly used the wiki on a couple of fights(like Tenshi), and I suppose I owe a lot to the people in these threads for giving me pointers on a large amount of the battles too!

Each to their own, as it were!

Is GoS genuinely more liked than DoD?

>>11127488
My Satori still sitting with 2 enemy spells. How do you fix this mess? (no idea which place, or enemies is worth getting...)

>>11128029
It is on /jp/ and Pooshlmer at least and the general opinion is usually that GoS is the better game.

>>11128063
Should probably start here.
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/The_Genius_of_Sappheiros/Characters/Satori_Komeiji

Early game, all all targeting elemental spells:
Flame
Frost or Acid Storm
Earthquake
Tornado or Thunderclap
Shining Stars
Shadow Burst

Various all targeting status inflicting spells:
Petro breath
Wail
Mind Blast
Time Stop
Enervate

Support spells:
Refresh
Area Heal
Mass Heal
Clearance
Leaf Shield
Starlight Barrier
Reflect Wall
Kabuff+1
Shield Wall
Raise Dead

That last one being very end game. Also don't believe what the wiki says about the Mokou revival strategy to learn it. It simply doesn't work.

Becomes super magic DPS:
Mederoa

>>11128029
Devil of Decline had a neat system with the shikigami system, but it essentially removed a lot of the character from the touhous.

Their abilities depended on the shikigamis you used and the actual character didn't matter nearly as much.

In GoS, the growth trees are really nice. Especially since you can respec whenever and however. Every character feels unique in terms of ability and leaving any of them out hurts your party as a whole.

>>11128135
I always did appreciate how well-balanced and unique the character were. It's not perfect, but I can't think of a jrpg that trumps GoS in this regard.

>>11128127
Thanks! I'll have to backtrack for the one's i've missed.

>>11128135
Yes.

>>11128127
Here are more damaging skills to add to this list:
Dark Giga Flare - Multi-target MYS bomb. It's like an Energy Bomb with 3x more power. Has a pretty ugly cool down, but its element is rarely resisted. Good for burst MYS damage on a group of enemies.

Cosmic Liner - Pretty much a single target version of Dark Giga Flare. Can be reduced to 0 cool down. Ignores Reflect.

Punish the Judgment - Multi-target LGT bomb. It deals around the same damage as Medoroa at max light land on enemies with neutral resists to light. Can be reduced to 0 cool down.

>>11128325

Made some notepads for this. Thanks!

Has any of you /jp/sies managed to beat the final boss in it's perfect form? The one with 199999 HP with no species? I've seen YT videos but fuck, it's quite luck-based

>>11128479
Would it still be a fair fight after finishing the expansion?

Back on track at last. Sanae and Mokou repeatedly kicked our asses, so I decided I'm going to try a quantity over quality approach to this!

>>11130009

Note to self, this might not work.

>>11130016
haha holy shit

I finally got one of these to drop. Pity her per-expansion ultimate weapon is garbage.

I reached the final boss of the expansion a while back and was utterly defeated.
Is there anything nice to the south of the boss? You know, in the room where you go: "You sense an evil presence" before entering.

>>11130016

>>11130034
Endurance dungeon. Gets you the 2 best accessories in the game. Can't run from any fight in that dungeon and using a healing circle will cause monsters to respawn. Didn't make the other one yet, but it's essentially protection against any sort of status effects.

>>11130068
Neat but I don't think I'll need it if I take my time with planning and making a strategy for the bossfight.
Thanks though.

>>11130016
Cirno is pretty much the worst character in the game anyway. She is worse than Satori at inflicting Death. All her spells only deal water damage. She is as frail as it gets and dies if you have her anywhere near fire. She can have lots of health regen, but since she can't take a hit it's pointless. All she can do is inflict freeze, which is something Sakuya's best sword can do as well.

I almost never use her. Most of my characters are at level 95+ while Cirno is stuck at 81.

>>11130074
It's pretty much bragging rights. Beating the final boss is easier and takes less time too.

>>11130076
Cirno is the strongest, she can solo the tentacle alien quest boss at level 1.

>>11130030
In a miraculous stroke of fortune the second frog I manage to kill also drops a golden character-specific material. On the other hand I'm never going to find out what it is because finishing this battle is impossible with this team. fffffffffffffffffffffuck. Putting dark spells on satori and patch, and void land for that matter.

>>11130088
Was that the boss weak to Death?

>>11130093
You can always run.
>>11130096
Yes.

>>11130098
That's what I had to do, but in doing so you forfeit any items you've gotten from the battle.

Beating Terminator MKII and that nasty Hydra feels good, man.
Sakuya does some juicy damage with her ultimate weapon now.
I love this game.

Fighting these mobs with single-target spells is suffering. I got most these kills in two battles.

>>11130061
I like how you went to hell and found fire enemies for that screenshot.

Have to say, that was a really annoying fight! I think it bugged out in the end. The depicted bonus mob was summoned on top of another and wasn't targetable and didn't do anything at all.

I'm not complaining though!

!!!
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>>11134023
It seems like you're ignoring the recommended character quest order on the wiki or haven't seen it.

You should probably get Nitori and Mokou now for some of your proper DPS back.

They're 2nd and 3rd on the list for easiest to do past Cirno.

You have Sanae now so it should be fairly trivial to get them. Her fight is incredibly trivial if those helpers don't work right. I remember in earlier versions it was possible to make it so she couldn't summon them at all.

>>11134047

You're right, I didn't see the recommended order. I tried every single one of the quests on the board(apart from Byakuren) and picked out the least annoying ones to do first.

Picked Aya up now, let's see if there's anything new!

Is the website for the Devil of Decline English translation still around?

>>11134047

I don't really get how Mokou is thought so easy to defeat though. If we didn't have Omikuji Miracle, this would have been another RNG-fest!

>>11134106

On another note, returning to Muenzuka was nice. Definitely my favourite stage theme!

>>11134106
Because Cirno + Icicle Attack = freeze freeze freeze freeze freeze freeze freeze

>>11134106
You can stunlock Mokou with freezes.

>>11134112
>>11134117

Oh. I only managed to freeze her once every 3-4 turns. Just my luck I guess!

>>11134132
Give Cirno all your IND equips first and put everything into Fairy Power and she'll pretty much never fail against Mokou.

>>11134136

I didn't have enough points in Fairy Power for even the first IND enhance. Might have something to do with it!

I was hoping for a little more of a challenge from these two really. I'm tempted to add both Udonge and Remi to my main party when I'm through collecting. Are they both viable?

>>11134151
Remilia sucks against bosses since she lacks strong single target moves and has long cooldowns on some of her stronger moves. Can deal with random trash though and has probably the weirdest Last Word in the game. Reisen has one of the highest damage outputs in the game against anything that can be debuffed. She gets extra Slayer for every debuff and permament effect for many her moves. Can inflict pretty much every debuff and most permaments herself too. Make sure to set her growth so that her moves only dispel good effects or she will cripple her own damage output and ruin your setups.

>>11134151
Reisen is the strongest for bosses.
I don't personally use Remilia much because all she has is piercing physical damage skills which are not helped by her pretty low accuracy.
Both are completely viable though.

>>11134168
>>11134170

Duly noted. I've been using unorthodox strategies so far, so I'll give Remi a fair chance!

This was a pretty bland(20 minute long) fight! Quicktime confirmed for most annoying ability.

We got slapped good. I'm going to get Alice now, I think!

>>11134261
Hahaha, the Alice and Marisa fight can be cruel. Just be sure not to kill Marisa first. Or if you want a challenge, do kill Marisa first.

>>11134264
Alice is helpless against Xu Fu's Dimension.
Marisa is a terrifying opponent, she uses various broom techniques, which are actually physical in nature!

>>11134282
Yeah I know, I'm actually the guy who beat that fight by just having Mokou stand there while Alice killed herself. It was a ludicrously long and tedious fight though.

>>11134264

That was actually rather easy. Finding them was the hard part! I'll admit I got a bit scared towards the end when Marisa decided to do 5 spells in one turn. Super Dublex Barrier sure is nice!

That's better. Sakuya's damage here was pretty nuts!

>>11134307
Marisa's schtick is that she counters attacks with master spark making it very easy to get party members in the back wiped out in addition to the frontal attacker who hit her.

>>11134364

I thought it might be something like that. On the second-to-last turn she did two Master Sparks which resulted in those unnescessary casualties.

whoa, I ran the save file converter in the weekend root folder because I'm an idiot and it completely fucked up the exe. Time to get a new game.

Also it's strange, my non-weekend GoS's save isn't in the save folder but in AppData. Well, whatever. At least I found it.

How hard are the bosses in the expansion? Is it the same feeling as when you play through the main game and you have a blast trying to figure out how to beat the bosses? Also have to consider the fact that the main game got us used to the required tactics.

Man, I still remember my amazing fight with Kanako and Suwako. The one time in my life I ever decided to use an instant death move on a boss for the lols (since Konpaku Flash came up by chance) would be the one boss that has a weakness to it.

>>11134838
I had overall less trouble with them compared to some base game bosses. They still require actual tactics instead of spamming random moves though. Final Boss is a real bitch, having insanely high evade. Another boss gets a perfect barrier nullifying everything that doesn't ignore or pierce it.

It helps that you can get much better equipment for your characters, since quests reward you with the materials you need.

Oh, come on...

>>11134354
Well Flan and Remi are Transcendants. Her Vyse has slayers on them with Flan negating some damage thanks to her slash resistance. On another note, my net is back so I can watch your progress again!

>>11134960
Where the fuck is Alice? Also, debuff him with Power Down from Byakuren.

>>11134976
What would I do with Alice? Aya with EVA buffs all the way.
Also, I beat this guy regularly, but that time it happened to land an lucky Vortex on itself.

Also, I give up. I'll need some tips for this fight. I can't get past the first phase with anything that's not my best team. And I obviously don't want to send them in first.
I know their weaknesses, but damn. I'm lost.

>>11135033
My first party would be Cirno, Yuugi, Sakuya Remilia, and Nitori with Aya as commander. Top head weak to elements, bottom, doesn't have any weaknesses. Cirno's useful for bringing up water land so Sakuya's sword can become stronger. Nitori for Party camo, Yuugi for damage so is Remi. Just Aya 3 commander bomb and private square when available. If that don't work, grind moar.

>>11134971

Mm, yeah, I just remembered! I'll be sure to post regular updates!

What I've basically done when the Internet was down. I maxed out 5 party members' lvl and power. Max power is 99. Aya being the first to be maxed since she's always the commander.

Don't you just love the moments where Mokou's Last Word decides to activate on the very turn she herself perishes?

>>11135541
Use the anti-death formation from Komachi coz fuck Yuyucow's bullshit

>>11135573

Didn't need to! Private Square + Sakuya's Last Word made Youmu melt before she could make use of her stances, and Wind of Protection held strong against Yuyuko's abilities. Until the last two turns that is.

>>11135284

I always told myself that Sakuya's MP would surely get better with levels. 301 MP at level 99 is just ridiculous!

>>11135650
Sakuya is one of the prime candidates for the best MP+ ring you have. I think only Yuugi can run out of MP as fast as Sakuya can.

>>11135057
Well I certainly screwed up there. Bottom head is weak to 4 elements.

part three is broken..

>>11135994
Switch to japanese locale when unpacking the archives.

>>11136022
Nope, keep getting an unexpected end of archive.

Grindan made eajy

Ouch. Is this Strike and Earth damage? Also, the Underworld battle theme is magnificent!

>>11135922

Yes, I had come to that conclusion myself!

>>11134093
It's on MotK. The guy (who also translated this) is supposedly still working on it but apparently all the members are really busy at the moment so it's been going at a snail's pace.

>>11134307
Now I need to know how the last three member recruitments are going to go. I don't know why I find new players telling how things went really interesting.

>>11139225
Uh, whoops, forgot to update the thread. Did you skip past Byakuren and Satori or where they just completely uneventful? Just because you're not using them doesn't meet you can't beat the crap out of them.

>>11139213
It's pretty much the only new track in the expansion but it's pretty good. You can do a lot with Charming Domination. DoD used it as the Netherworld theme and it was pretty neat there.

>>11139225

It was definitely Strike and Earth damage. Easiest fight of my life!

>>11139237
Have fun!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg_gE4qBjVU

>>11139235

Concerning Satori and Byakuren, I decided against posting them because yes, they were indeed completely uneventful! Both took me one try, although I guess this holds true for a lot of the fights.

>>11139245

Well I never... thanks I guess!

>>11139245
Oh wow. It's been so long. What a laugh.

huh, this final boss is pretty hard. Go figure.

Oh, I almost forgot

>>11139909

>>11136104
get the dl from doujinstyle and apply the patch manually

This last boss is making me want to kill myself.

>>11140195
Same. Pic related was kinda neat, but I died early in the 3rd form. Striking a balance between offense and defense is proving to be challenging.

>>11139909

>>11141631
when any of the named enemies spawn you have a good reason to punch F12

Do item effects such as increase exp/ item drop works if a commander is holding it?

>>11141659
yeah, I'm now doing that. And goddammit I had the perfect setup but I forgot to void land during phase two so got immediately wiped before patchy could get on it.

>>11141771
EXP yes but i'm not sure about those item drop+ items.

Alright, the best I've gotten is like 2/5 of the 3rd form's HP. Think it's time to pack it in and grind some out of the low 60's so it's not AS luck-based. The team I've had the most success with is:

Alice, Marisa, Sanae, Satori, Sakuya
Aya

Youmu, Mokou, Reimu, Byakuren, Patchy
Nitori

I tried switching Sanae and Reimu but I think nullifying magic for a turn trumps reviving. and the damage output of team 1 is too shit without Sanae. Regardless if I have to revive I lose my buffs and I might as well F12. I guess I could switch Reimu and Alice. I'm not sure if Alice could save the party if that raving gulf of greek shit decides to use AoE magic 3 times in one turn. Maybe with the right shield.

Also what do you guys think of Asura vs. Manyawhatever for single targets? Kinda quirky that the latter's spells tend to hit a variable amount of times at low power. I'm not considering Deva because the tree doesn't give defensive boosts.

Pic somewhat related.

>>11142118
For the final phase team, I had Sanae buff magic defense, Alice handle the physical stuff, and gave everybody anti-elements stuff like rainbow greaves and the ribbon. Helps a lot, though vortex and the bosses spell cards are always scary.

I use Mokou in the first party. Fujiyama is just so good against Lithos and Biotopos.

Does someone have a Weekend postgame save?
I beat the game a while ago but lost my file.

>>11142138
Do you want mine?
5 party members are lvl 99 with max power. Also I have all the Yukkuri drops for easier grindan with Satori having Punish the Judgement, Medoroa, Dark Giga Flare, Starlight Barrier, Leaf Shield, Refresh etc.
I just don't know where the save is stored and how to determine which save is the right one?

This is just the thread I wanted to see!
I'm replaying the game again, and I'm having a very good time.
I just beat Suwako and Kanako and I must say that physical Satori is actually quite good! She did very well at the stage, I was surprised.
I love this game.

>>11142342
Well, just like Blue Mages in Final Fantasy, Satori actually has physical support despite her frail tiny body. Her learning tree actually buffs her physical skill damage if I remember correctly, so at max her physical damage did something like 1.6X damage or something. Might be another tree, I don't remember.

>>11142137
>Sanae buff magic defense
Damn, I forgot she had that spell. What you listed should work. I guess I should pay closer attention to what I have equipped and use the last of my gold making stuff. Mokou is good in team 1 but I'd rather have her make phase 3 faster. I can't everything though. Team 1 needs Alice protection if it's going to be a long grind. With Mokou there things should speed up and I could use Aya tanking or something. Well, it's something to try I guess.

>>11142370
Both her Id and Trauma trees buff it as well. Each of these is +15% damage and the learning tree is +40%. I'm assuming they stack but I'm not sure in what manner. It's something like a 70-85% boost.

>>11142118
>>11143707
Alice is meant for the last phase. She is pretty much insurance for if a drain element gets through and her little legion also protects characters from vortex.

Aya, Reimu, and Satori are pretty much all you need to protect yourself during phase 1 assuming two crocs.

Regarding DPS, it depends on what stuff you have. If you have Kusanagi then Mokou's good for the third phase, but Youmu with Doujigiri is still sufficient otherwise if you can survive long enough for 3 properly buffed Paschals.

If you really want Mokou for third phase then learn Mederoa from Ambivalence to actually make Satori replace Mokou's damage for the 1st phase as well.

My characters ranged from 60-70 when I beat the final boss and I didn't have Kusanagi or Mederoa.

Aya, Mokou, Reimu, Marisa, Satori, and Sakuya(commander) for the first party. Alice, Youmu, Byakuren, Sanae, Patchouli, and Nitori(commander) for the second one. Hinotori Skydance for both parties.

For the first phase I simply got Mokou's Fujiyama Volcano's cooldown to 0 and had her hit Lithos with volcanos whenever she was up, had Satori use starlight barrier and leaf shield on Aya, and Reimu barrier when appropriate while Marisa attacked with the appropriate magic as well as Satori when she wasn't putting up barriers. If I had mederoa then the 1st phase would've been incredibly consistent for me, but I didn't at the time.

With Alice defending and tanking, Sanae buffing our defenses, Patchouli voiding land and Byakuren buffing Youmu as she paschaled, the final form went down on my very first try against it. Patchouli had one of her armors, Byakuren had her 6th tier scroll, Sanae had a few accessories, Youmu had a ribbon, and Alice had rainbow greaves and more accessories so my party pretty much took negligible damage the entire fight from the final phase. I had to little legion and revive Alice at the beginning of the third phase due to a filled land gauge, but past that there weren't any real bumps.

I wasn't expecting anymore skills from Marisa after she learned Triple Spark and Final Laser. I'm really going to rape the final boss now!

>>11143748
Those final skills are all so pointless. Only Sakuya has a really great one. Lithos' looks pretty awesome though.

>>11143751
I don't have any use for Sakuya`s Quicktime yet. Where can I use it effectively?

>>11143763
Against Demiurge in the endurance dungeon. Combined with Aya, you get 3 free turns which is enough to kill it before it uses his skill that reduces your bombs to zero.

>>11143779
Uh yeah. I'm never going to attempt that dungeon ever! So pretty much Quicktime would be useless for me.

>>11139909

I was waiting for this to be posted from the moment I made the thread!

I spent an hour grinding Remi and Udonge to 70. Is this lineup remotely viable? The lack of an elemental attacker seems like it might be an issue, or at least that's the impression I'm getting.

>>11143803
Well yeah, you lack an elemental attacker. If you want to try your new blood out, replace Sakuya and put Reisen up front.

By the way, Reisen is quite possibly the strongest DPS in the game. Her or Yuugi is the common opinion.

>>11143803
There's no way you'll be able to utilize Reisen's damage without the main debuffers (Satori & Byakuren) since Reisen would be the only one debuffing.

>>11143930
I liked to use Reisen in combination with Mokou and even Cirno. They both have debuffs with a high success rate. Especially Mokou's Tsuki no Iwakasa's Curse, that thing procs almost always, even against bosses

>>11143825

I kind of didn't want to switch out Sakuya because reasons, so I'll have to make it work like this.

>>11143930

I suppose that's a fair point. If that's the case, then I guess I can't really use her after all.

>>11143956
Will you go post game without Reisen in addition to your no Satori and Byakuren clause?

I cant seems to find guides how to get the rest of the expansion characters. I only got Byakuren and Mokou.

>>11144034

Seems like I have to!

>>11144042
Only after stage 21

>>11144047
You don't have to. Are you depriving yourself of debuffers?

>>11144083
How reliable is debuffing again significant bosses anyways? I've largely given up on inflicting permanent status outside of Mokou, but haven't really dabbled with variety.

>>11144083
How reliable is debuffing against significant bosses anyways? I've largely given up on inflicting permanent status, but haven't really dabbled with variety.

>>11144110
P. attack debuffs will really cripple bosses's damage especially the Terminator and the dude which gives Obsidian to absolutely 0 damage.

>>11144110
Bosses usually have resist against restrict/disable/control, but not against poison and curse (and guess what, Satori can inflict both of those permanent effects).
As for variety statuses certain expansion bosses are almost unbeatable without heavy usage of variety debuffs.

>>11144083

No, I'm depriving myself of supposedly overpowered characters.

>>11143936
Same here, I just blew away everything in the expansion with Mokou doing Curse and Reisen using her bombs right after. 30k damage easily.

>>11142118
>I'm not considering Deva because the tree doesn't give defensive boosts.

Whoops, meant offensive.

>>11143746
Thanks for the input. I had actually completely missed the spec that gets Fujiyama Volc's cooldown to 0. That's huge. The scary thing about not having Alice in party 1 is that it's pretty likely for Satori or Marisa to get sniped as the battle drags on. Hopefully Mokou plowing away would make that more consistent, though. I'll try what you've suggested in any case; it sounds less luck-dependent than what I've been doing. Also I'd try to get Medderoa but actually finding an Ambivalence is a feat in itself.

>>11145187
If you never realized, the stat boosts in the stance trees give Youmu their boosts regardless if Youmu is in that stance or not. So the +PDef from the deva tree applies in any of her stances.

>>11145187
>Also I'd try to get Medderoa but actually finding an Ambivalence is a feat in itself.
Save at the stage 21 healing circle, use the teleporter, run too Ambivalence's room (room D), and hit the closest enemy. If it's not him reset and repeat.
It'll take a bit, but not nearly as long as you'd think.
Not Lightning Baron and Two-headed Dragon...those guys are complete assholes to farm.

>>11145774
Yeah, that's what I was trying to convey, that I wasn't going to bother with the tree because of the defensive boosts. I'm looking for offense.

>>11145812
Oh shit I didn't know it had a specific room. I'll give it a shot.

is this game leaning more towards fun, or towards frustrating? also do you need to grind several hours just to progress?

Wow. This is easy as fuck. I don't know why I had to grind for this.

>>11146199
How did you make that team 1 work? For me those three attackers can't put out enough damage which leads to a fight that lasts ages and thus someone eventually getting sniped because Aya can't cover anyone.

>>11146197
It's very fun. I've never had to grind though you may need to for the final boss. It's more about strategy. Some dungeons can be tedious because there are so many mobs and there will be the occasional stupid puzzle It also runs a bit long, but it's overall one of the best JRPGs I've played. You should at least give it a shot if you're looking for something to play.

>>11146211
What, Marisa deals a ton of damage, and so does Satori and Sakuya, Sane's buffs help too.

>>11146232
Adding to this, my party for first part was Alice, Marisa, Sanae, Patchy, Nitori and Satori as a commander, since she didn't know any skills at that time (I didn't bother with Satori until the expansion, but her commander bom was actually very useful)

>>11146232
What does your Sakuya have equipped? Mine's not doing shit. My Marisa does something like 3k against Anastasis with max land. I think like 1,200 starting out.

I tried again. This time, with these 2 in. If anyone wonders what Satori's role is, she just spams Dark Breath. Sakuya ravages Biotopos and Anastasis. Also, my Marisa has the Zeus amulet with the robe which enhances water damage to 10% to increase the damage of her water and lightning attacks

>>11145979
Neat. Not exactly what I was aiming for though.

>>11146222
Forgot to add to this. If you're playing weekend you should never have to grind, period. I made the switch and have noticed a significant increase in experience gained, or perhaps it just doesn't scale as harshly.

>>11146243
I don't remember the setup, but just unleash your strongest attacks on Anastasis and she should do good.
However, I do recommend you to leave her for the second party and get nitori in the first part.

>>11146270
You really should have some elemental attacks on Satori. Breaths are Physical and based on HP, so they do terrible damage. Stage 1 fairies can give you all basic elemental spells. If you got Mad Thunder from Iku, that's great too.

>>11146329
She does have elemental attacks. I didn't bother using them. I just spam Dark Breath to raise Dark land up so Patchouli can double cast Silent Selene on the 3rd phase. She also has Medoroa just in case

Does anyone have maps for this game?
I'm having trouble in Eintei and the minimap doesn't help at all

>>11146346
Oh go get energy drain. Undead fairies in hell. It'll do so much better.

>>11146270
No chance with those adds.

>>11146270
>Aya down
Get starlight barrier and leaf shield. That's how you prevent Aya from ever dying.

>>11146392
>>11146371
Come on. Can't you see I already beaten the first phase by that speech bubble? Aya died on the same turn Biotops fell so no worries.

There we go. Tomorrow the final boss eats shit.

>>11146199
Wait, is that the Azoth?

Gotten used to Remi now, and I'm feeling good about this lineup(although in the end there was only one change)!

Last mob I decided to grind, and this dropped. Did someone in the previous thread say it's one of the best armors in the game? It's seems strangely unremarkable to me.

>>11148054
It must be upgraded. The upgraded armor that drops from the giant is pretty much the best armor in the game.

>>11148054
You can upgrade that into Hades Armor. After that, you can upgrade it to the Abyss Armor. Also, you can farm for another Obsidian Armor once you upgraded it.

>>11148066
>>11148183

Ah, very nice. I'll look into this.

Also, for the materials quests, how do I know the spawn locations of the mobs? I tried a few quests, but I couldn't really make out where to go.

>>11148229
They're randomized. The easiest to find would be Remi's since it's just 2 possible places. Most annoying would be Byakuren's due to the switch bullshit and mindflayers. At least you're not handling Byakuren's.

EAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

SHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTT


Cool. I actually had to make the switch with phase 1 at ~1/4 HP, but once I got to phase 3 my DPS was so nuts that disadvantage didn't matter. Thanks to that anon who suggested Alice in party 2 and those skills for Satori. The mad thunder I got from a zera beetle helped as well. Not sure how this took me longer to accomplish than it did that anti Satori/Byakuren anon.

>>11148280
Oh, right. Do you guys prefer magic or physical for Lithos? Damn these expansion monsters I stronger than I thought they'd be. Also I like how these OCs aren't completely terrible. Anastasis in particular is a fun character

>>11148295
Late-game, magic. Early expansion, whatever fits but I just Aging Drizzle the shit out of everyone.

>>11148305
>I just Aging Drizzle the shit out of everyone.
Well, shit. That works.

Man, the expansion runs so much smoother than the main game. I've been playing in slow motion this whole time.

>>11148329
Don't count on it too much. Sometimes, it'll fail. You might want to stick with that Pegasus Shower spell for the character quests

>>11148295
Biotopos is the most cute.

>>11148237
>just 2 possible places
I can't find the mob anywhere. The quest says 4F in The Great Temple, but I can't find it anywhere. Do you know in what other place it can spawn?

>>11148349
The entrance to Stage 20. It's either on the left or right. End of story

>>11148280

It took you longer because I had a pretty significant level advantage. That's my take on it!

>>11148237
>>11148350

Remi's is actually the one I tried for the hardest, but I couldn't find it anywhere. Thanks for the tip!

>>11148333
Yeah, just had that happen against a new angel. Least it means I can be braindead against weaker mobs. I wonder if I could farm stage 21 with this. Also I was wondering why pegasus was doing such shit damage. Didn't notice it was physical, I'll just throw Kusanagi on her then. Lithos' own weapons don't look to be anything special, though that last perk in her tree is nice.

>>11148341
Don't be ridiculous

>>11148365
In case you didn't know yet, you can put a commander even in solo quests. For example Remi with Nitori as commander to make the enemies' evasion 0 on turn used.

>>11148410

I had a look at the wiki, and it was mentioned there too. Definitely useful. I managed to do the quest now anyways!

Is it worth making this or is Kusanagi overall better on Remi? I guess I could ask the same question for Ginnungagap(what are these names?).

>>11148433
Those are from Norse mythology. Also, save up some fresh blood to craft that Ginnungagap. You'll use it later for this

i downloaded this game but can not seem to get it run on my computer help a poor hopeless idiot

>>11148447

I thought as much judging by the other names, but I have never heard of Ginnungagap before. Very nice, I'll be sure to save up for it!

>>11148466
Make sure you unpack it and run it while under japanese locale

So, uh, I just used Remi's Last Word for the first time just now. What the hell am I seeing?

>>11148466
>>11148506
Most of the time, the only thing you need to do is remove the Japanese characters from the folder name. Just rename anything that's in japanese to western characters.

>>11148529
You're seeing the obvious ramifications of her ability to manipulate fate. Come on man.

>>11148529
Yukkuri kitteitte ne!

>>11148556
>>11148553

If this is truly how Remi manipulates the fate of her adversaries, I'll be sure to steer clear of her vengeance in the future. I took it just slightly too easy in the end and they all got away. Who needs effiency?

probably a dumbass question, but does IND contribute to quick effects proccing? I'm trying to figure out how to make Cirno not as useless.

>>11148866
Yes. But all her non-spellcard skills have extremely low basic chance to freeze, If Cirno have 2x more IND than enemy's RES then her skill probabilities are:
Icicle Attack - 30%
Ice Beam - 20%
Ice Storm - 15%
Every additional IND will add +0.25% to this probability.
Yes, Cirno is useless.

>>11148373
How can someone so thin be so strong?

And both of you are wrong about the cutest sister. Come now.

This is the first time so far I've thought "I hate this stage". And I do. I really do.

What's this "ultimate status resisting accessory" the wiki mentions?

>>11149190
Enjoying the ambushes?

>>11149229

No. No I am not.

And the completely unremarkable boss almost goes down on the first try. I just love it when someone dies instantly after being resurrected 4 turns in a row. Going to max the miracle tree now.

>>11149190
You need that item to make one of the 3 "Resist every kind of Variety/Quick/Permament" type of accessories and you need all 3 upgraded forms of those accessories to make the real ultimate status resisting accessory.

>>11148915
Huh, that's pretty shit. And she just took nearly 5,000 damage from one of Nitori's fire attacks. She's good for a laugh at least.

Cirno is shit, but check this out: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm20923103

why is this last boss so fucking RNG based. third day of attempts with different parties, its driving me crazy. Seems the whole thing is just hoping i dont get randomly petrified or third form dark AOEd.

>>11149964
RES buff, anti-petrification stuff. Give the best anti-petrification item you have to Alice and have her use the taunt skill in a good formation and she'll eat all the minuses.
Random dark AoE? Doesn't it have to charge up?

>>11150008
My problem is i need Alice for second phase to help eat up those huge AOEs and keep youmu safe. And ive tried using sanae in party one to res buff but i need her in phase 3, and sometimes Ill get petrified even with buff. Right now I'm runnign evasion aya, sakuya, reimu, patchy, marisa, satori commander first party Alice, Mokou, Sanae, Byakuren Youmu, nitori commander second party. I havent gotten the third boss past 50% and everyones 65+. I feel like im not doign something right, any more suggestions to help me past this.

>>11150052
I thought you meant petrification in stage three. There's petrification in phase one?
No Patchy? Who's handling the land in phase three?

>>11150071
Yeah in phase one lithos can charm and stone bomb you still. I've been using private square to skip when she bomb refills, but thats onlu up some of the time, and it leaves sakuya's low damage while croc sister heals most of it back.

I've used a few different setups for phase three, but the boss has only healed a few separate attempts, so i havent been thinking about it much, I havent gotten her close enough that a heal would have made a difference yet.

>>11150071
Not that guy, but Patchouli is pointless in the final phase. If you use void spirit before the 3rd phase starts you have enough time to win. She can't deal any damage anyway, so she just takes up a slot for someone who might actually do something.

>>11150098
Spec Sakuya so Private Square's cooldown is short enough.
Anastasis heals?

You do not want the final phase absorbing land, period. I'm pretty sure that's where that huge dark aoe is coming from.

>>11150102
Heard that, tried that, failed every time. Patchy can hurt the boss with her dark spells too.

>>11149276
I hope you didn't miss out on all the chests in taht area. There's a shield there which enhances physical attacks by 10%

>>11150102
>she just takes up a slot for someone who might actually do something.
this. In fact, fuck reducing land, just kill her before she can react. Private Square is just too good.

>>11150190

This one? I just ran through the stage in the end, but I think I found all the chests regardless. Not that it really matters, the only one on the field that can use it is Alice(and Sakuya, but she uses two-handed swords).

>>11150362
>and Sakuya, but she uses two-handed swords
So? She doesn't have to ever use it, just carry it around.

>>11150052
For the first party, you really shouldn't be having problems with status effects due to Reimu.

Just have her barrier when ever Lithos bomb refills. She has a barrier that prevents status effects you know.

>>11150367

So the bonuses still apply if I equip it along with a two-handed sword?

>>11150102
>>11150280

Worked for me >>11148280 . I didn't even have the opportunity to reduce land at all because patch died in team 1. I just blocked void cavitation with Nitori's commander skill.

>>11150389
Yeah, res buffs are nearly useless against Lithos. You need Reimu's barrier. Satori's starlight barrier is really nice in that fight because it covers your ass if Anastasis decides to use her bomb after Lithos does. If they do this two turns in a row though you're fucked because everything will be on cooldown.

>>11150437
Think so, yeah.

>>11150520

I'll check it out when I wake up. Would certainly be a nice bonus!

>>11150052
>I havent gotten the third boss past 50% and everyones 65+

I don't have the experience to be certain but that does sound a bit off. Is team 2 fully buffed by the time you enter phase 3? Are Mokou and Youmu equipped with foreign god-slaying weapons? Formation? Between Nitori's bomb and Alice's covering there should be only a 1 turn vulnerable spot in your defenses. On off turns you should probably cover Youmu. Nitori should have bomb increasing items along with Mokou. Buff Youmu's accuracy. Generally buff with Byakuren if you can and leave revival to Sanae. The former's buffs are about 1.5 times more potent. Mystic resisting items can protect against a stray minus. That's all that comes to mind at the moment, hope it helps.

poor bastard only got to attack once

>>11150541
You may also get this shield here. It's dropped by the Ibaraki-Douji in stage 21. Same effect

>>11150541
You may also want this shield too. It's dropped by the Ibaraki-Douji in Stage 21.

Took a bit to get the party right, but I managed to beat it in my low 70s.

I always knew Byakuren heavily beat Sanae buff wise, but it seems Satori is stronger than Byakuren debuff wise if you actually spec her for it. Or maybe it was because I forgot to put points into Byakuren's debuff tree before all my attempts to kill this thing.

>>11151385
Byakuren and Sanae work best together. Sanae learns a buff that buffs buffs!

>>11151431
>a buff that buffs buffs!
If you cast the buff that buff buffs after the buff that buff buffs it gets buffed?

>>11151464
Yes, and people have made through the entire final boss with a single party just by abusing that.

>>11151551
Please tell me your secrets.

>>11151551
Really? That's a pretty obvious exploit, why they didn't think about it?

>>11151593
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOukwEL2hwE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iG8oM02rEc

And there's one more at Nicovideo

>>11150959

Already had that too.

It seems to be working. She hits for around 550 without the shield and again for plus/minus 670 with it equipped. Unbuffed both times, though it seems slightly larger than 10%. Might just be luck.

At what point do I gain the ability to synthesize the legendary character-specific items in the expansion?

I've been doing Lithos' quests for hours now and I think I won't stop since damn, look at all that power every time I do the quest. Sanae gained 5 levels of power already. If you guys are wondering, this is my Godeater quest setup (except I changed Cirno with Satori) since I'm too lazy to change parties.

How do we not get our shit kicked by Starbow Break? It's starting to get a bit annoying.

>>11153163
You may want to replace Remi with Reimu. 1st turn, use Reimu barrier, most of the time, it's physical attack on the first turn. 2nd turn, Little Legion with Reimu increasing Light land. 3rd turn, Aya + private square. If you haven't known yet, Jack the Ripper is better than Full-moon Revenge. There's also Mysterious Jack. Also, have Patchy equip the Holy Grail wand and also the Apollo amulet to increase the damage of Starburst Inflation

>>11153163
With Byakuren buffing Sakuya with light sword and her PATK buff, Sakuya would normally be able to simply take out Flandre fairly fast under private square with the vyse sword as that also slays.

Since you're not using Byakuren, you might be better off switching Remilia for somebody also using a transcendent slaying weapon like Nitori with her Shade. The Kusanagi while powerful doesn't work as well since Flandre has 50% slash resistance. Reimu helping out with barriers would also help your survivability significantly as well as an appropriate commander like Mokou or Nitori.

>>11153199

Ah yes, I did use Reimu for the previous battle after all. I forgot. I haven't maxed Two-handed swords yet, so I don't have Full-Moon Revenge. Mysterious Jack misses 90% of the time, so I hardly ever use that. Already doing that for Patchy(minus Holy Grail).

>>11153202

I'll just swap Remi for Reimu. Should do the trick.

>>11153232
You can't miss under Private Square.

>>11153323

I know that, but whenever I use it outside PS it always misses a lot, and when I do use it with PS, I usually only get one or two hits. Just my usual luck I guess.

>>11153232
>>11153323
>>11153603
Sakuya's ACC is always really shitty for some reason. Every single melee character besides her hits really reliably, but Sakuya starts feeling like she's been affected by some sort of permanent ACC debuff once you hit the late game. And that's with a headshot goggles accessory.

It's especially apparent with her skills. Other characters get increased accuracy when using a skill, but Sakuya gets reduced accuracy on hers it feels like.

Also I've always wondered what the perfect maid ability on her Maid Arts growth tree implies.

>>11153753
have you ever tried to hit something fast with a big ass sword?

>>11153753

I'm actually having the same problem with Remi too, to the extent of which Sanae's Accuracy buff is a must. It's just slightly annoying.

>>11153753
>I've always wondered what the perfect maid ability on her Maid Arts growth tree implies.
Is a lewd but useless skill.
>25 - Perfect Maid - When naked, gain PDEF proportional to LV

>>11153895
I know that, I'm wondering why it's lewd and useless.

>>11153899
Oh well, maybe is a philosophical thing, since the dress define a maid but the perfect maid is so perfect and elegant than she can go naked and still being recognized as a maid by her modals/attitude?

>>11153918
But one of the biggest things about a maid is the dress. Can't be perfect without the proper attire.

>>11153935
Yeah, but you can dress like a maid without being one, but a true maid is still a maid when is naked. Dunno, maybe is DEEP, or more probably I'm just overanalyzing it.

Can anyone translate this words?

>>11154061
babbies first kanji...

>>11154061

>>11154061
Fire Water Earth Electric
Light Dark Mystic
Slash Stab Strike

You really should stop being a fag, though.

>>11154096
>You really should stop being a fag, though.
?

>>11154095
Thank you.

>>11154096
what?

>>11154168
>>11154198

Learn moon, faggot.

Just defeated Tenshi twice. She was so easy I had to fight her twice to make sure I wasn't playing with Easy Mode on.
Seriously, she could barely do any damage, and took 1~2k from Satori/Patchy/Sakuya.

Maybe if I tried without alice it'd be a challenge? But reimu would just do Alice's job in her place...

>>11154260
Just a note: easy mode only affects normal enemies encounters, it doesn't do a thing during boss fights.

>>11154239
no.

>>11154239
What does that have to do with being a faggot?

>>11154296
I dunno, I fought Iku with easy mode on by accident and she seemed harder when I turned it off for the second battle.
Though the damage didn't change, but she seemed to spam her better attacks more, she even used that staff skill that absorbs MP and drained my Satori.

useless bunny get. I'm guessing I should max this one at least. Really though most of these trees seem pretty good.

>>11154372
That's the tricky part with Reisen; every one of her trees is just so damn useful.

>>11154319
RNG. Sometimes boss decides to use his strongest attack 3 turns in a row, sometimes he never uses it at all. Luck is always an important factor in this game.

>>11154919
Yeah, I've cleared it once and am replaying it, but it was such a drastic change that I thought it really did matter.

How do you get Satori to learn a healing spell? Do you have to use mind control and then use the healing spell on Satori?

>>11155141
Sorta. You have to mind control or charm the enemy on the round it's going to use the spell, before it gets its turn, then hope it uses it on Satori.
It's irritating, but worth it. Area Heal is a big part of why Satori is so good.

>>11155184
I thought you could just use control and select area heal to get it? I got it from some monster in the netherworld. Maybe my memory is off. For stuff like leaf shield and starlight barrier though yeah that trick is necessary.

>>11155196
I don't think heals and stuff are selectable while controlled, though I might be wrong and some are.

>>11155207
Nope, all heals need the trick.

>>11148472
Ginnungagao is the Norse equivalent of the Greek concept of Chaos, the primordial black nothingness from before the world was created. It's said that the Ginnungagap lay between Surtrheim and Nieflheim, the flames and the frost causing the gap to become balmy and temperate, allowing life to emerge.

holy hell her skill tree gives her a ton of bombs

Wait, what the fuck? I ran from an enemy, then re-engaged and killed a yukkuri sister, and after that Splendidly Done! I've completed the quest!

Alright. I'm very tempted to F12 right now as I wanted to fight them.

>>11156007
Do so. The expansion is sorta buggy.

Pre last boss farming and i get the ultimate materials for sanny and aya. Great.

>>11156117
They just had to set the "Can't run from battle" flag to 1 for the quest bosses. It was that simple. I wonder why it was left unsolved.

Can satori learn any resses?

>>11156374
Yes, you need to be in the post game and have a level 90 Reimu though.

I never wanted to return here. This level is too big, and the soundtrack is too happy. At least the enemies drop a lot of items(albeit common ones)!

>>11155274

Noted. More knowledge for me!

>>11157087
Say hello to my friend Furfur which sometimes has a friend named Ifrit beside her.

I was about to say that this fight was an absolute joke, but then the Embodiments started respawning instantly and Patchy ran out of mana. Only slightly annoying!

>>11156503
Not necessary, you can also kill Satori and then use Mokou's commander bomb to revive her and have the charmed enemy use the skill on her.

>>11157567
that method will drive you nuts. The resistance on those fuckers against charm/control is nauseating, no matter how much you fiddle with RNG. And there's no way to tell if they actually will cast revive or do something else, like blowing up. I tried to do it for 3 hours before giving up. Leveling Reimu to 90 is probably less taxing on your sanity.

>>11155184
That was horrible. I just spent 2 hours getting Satori to learn area heal. I thought I was going to kill myself.

>>11156246
I feel your pain. The only final material I managed to get was Aya's. That thing is worthless.

>>11157764
It shouldn't have been that hard, just have byakuren up her IND, kill other enemies, use Tengu Support on Byakuren and use Control/Charm. If it doesn't work, hit the monster until it goes away (or use dispel) and try again. I got mine today in just a few tries.

>>11157567
>>11157671
I literally managed to successfully get raise dead cast on a live Satori with the Mokou method.

It doesn't work. I don't know who put that method on the wiki, but it fails.

>>11157903
Can you please word your post in a more understandable way? I didn't understand very well, but I'm guessing you said you only managed to get it with the Mokou method and couldn't do it with the Reimu method?

>>11157909
No, I attempted with the Mokou method, took a couple of hours, then when I finally got raise dead cast on a Satori on the same turn she is phoenix tailed. It just flat out doesn't work and she doesn't learn the damn spell that way.

>>11158028
This.
I tried the Mokou method twice and the spell just fails. If this method ever worked, it doesn't on the up-to-date version. Once I tried using Reimu's barrier, I managed to get raise dead in less than 20 minutes.

From what I've read interrupting them with charm/control won't work either, so it seems like Reimu's barrier is the only way to go.

>>11156117
Done. I gotta say Pegasus Meteor Attack followed by an appropriate Nitori chaser is a beautiful thing. I really like how they made Lithos feel like a boss character yet kept her balanced at the same time.

>>11158028
>>11158773
weird, wiki says that the spell requires level 1. I guess it's a bug or something.

>>11158913
Why would that be a bug? There's a lot of spells that have a level 1 requirement.

>>11158989
The "bug" is that the spell was used on Satori and she didn't learn it when she, by all indications, should have. You seem to have misunderstood the conversation.

I've been trying to get the material for sakuya's ultimate weapon, but for some reason i rarely see anything besides one sphinx on the first mob when i keep resetting. Anyone know if resetting doesnt work in gorgon area B?

>>11159052
In my experience resetting can be inconsistent. Sometimes I get different mobs and sometimes I get the same ones over and over. In the latter case try just screwing around to change the RNG up before you enter battle. Also you are aware of how low those drop rates are, right? You're going to be at it a long time.

>>11159065
thanks, Ill try messing around with some other fights. I'm the guy whos still frustrated over the last boss and the guy who got sanae and aya's materials already, so Im perhaps overconfident in the drops and willing to kill more time before facing the boss again.

>>11159088
The last boss doesn't deserve that much effort, just try to push on harder.

Is claimh Solais worth using an orichalum on?

>>11159236
Feel free, Orichalcums and Adamantites are easy as hell to get in the post game.

The Orichalcum boss is rendered entirely harmless by having Aya and the Adamantite boss can be stunlocked by Mokou spamming Fujiyamas.

is it wise to spend craft materials every time I get a scroll for weapons and armor? I felt like materials are rare things.

lvl 33, Currently at stage 11.

>>11159413
In my opinion, no. Character-specific materials aren't very abundant and neither are the special materials for the weapons.
I make weapons if they give a very good bonus or are important, like Sakuya's sword with slayers, Nitori's gun with slayers, Marisa's broom with +2 Bombs (the next one is +20% cast speed, so I didn't make it and saved for the one after that), etc.

I hope my post wasn't confusing, I can explain better if you wish.

I retract my last statement. This boss is harder than the final boss was, if only because of the immensely retarded layout of the fight. The only way for Patchy to damage him is Starburst Inflation, and it only does about 1.5k per hit. This also leads to no bombs and no mana by the end. Reimu is only there to increase Light land, and she does it poorly. Sakuya does okay damage, but to sustain this damage she needs to use mana, which means she has none left by the time the guy dies.

What a bland boss. Also bump limit.

>>11159481
you have 10 guesses what two characters would be a great help here.

>>11159502

You have one guess how much I care!

This feels good.

Its finally fucking done with. Christ that took too long.

>>11159645
Great job, anon!
Was it a hard battle?
I took like a month to beat the Expansion's final boss, though when I did, it was VERY easy, I guess I got lucky.

>>11159440
no, it makes sense. If there is a special property, then its a good thing to create.

Aw, I was hoping they'd give some rational for Remilia being able to walk about in the daylight. Well no one plays GoS for the story anyways. That was a fun fight though; had to kill them both to avoid getting murdered by flan.

>>11160225
oh fuck yes I can make golden character-specific materials now.

>>11159645
grats. It is a nice feeling having that done with.

At Inner Eientei, Ive been trying to make Satori learn Enervate and Time Stop. The monster Moon People cast these spells many times over, but Satori is not learning it...even at 200% learn rate.

Is there some condition?

>>11160359
Level 50.
I got fooled too.

>>11160404
oh....damn.

Trying to learn Refresh, and this was on the wiki. What does Hatred means? I assume, its higher/advance level?

344 Big Hermit (Forest of Magic/Hatred) charm only
369 Big Guzu (Muenzuka/Hatred) charm only

>>11160607
Post game stages.

These new characters are neat. Reisen with Kusanagi is terrifying and her mechanic is generally fun to play around with. Remi's attack is insane and all that evade is pretty cool. How exactly does Star of David work though? "Inflicts damage proportional to HP" is very vague. Seems to do good damage in any case.

>>11160650
Thanks!

>>11159413
I got to the expansion having only crafted the Kusanagi and Sakuya's beast-slaying sword (because fuck those bunnies).
It is not wise and definitely not necessary.

That Alice/Marisa fight was also fun. A bunch of magic resistant gear, 3 physical fighters with slayers on both, and in particular Byakurens debuffs made it pretty easy, actually. Really though those things are brutal, Marisa was neutered pretty much. And died in two turns. Yay Reisen.

How do i grind for Yukkuri shit to make grind less grinding?

Got to the end dungeon with only 5-7 members in "good" levels and everyone else are at really low levels.

>>11163103
What do you consider good levels? This game really does not require grinding.

>>11163147
Main party is around 45-50, while other range from 41-29, 19 being the lowest which is Satori.

>>11163203
Low 60s should be good enough to clear, and you can use Satori as a commander for the first part of the boss. I guess you could just grind on the stage 21 monsters.

Gave this a couple of tries tonight. Had her on the 10% mark on the second try and I realized I had maxed the wrong tree on Reimu. Admittedly I peeked at the wiki for this one. Couldn't help myself!

Does someone want to make a new thread? We're only a couple of pages off now.

sure

>>11164528