/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Where is the Nonconsensual Sex?

Why hasn't someone taken a flexible digital-ink screen and folded it in the shape of a mask to make an animated mask, yet?
I would, but I'm not very good with animating or robotics.

>>11054163
Last thread.

Why do all kigs have that same stupid looking mouth?

Where do people even buy these?

>>11054186

These are Dolphin/iluca masks.

>>11054189
THIS

>>11054189

I don't like these mouths too, but it's more of a personal preference.

>>11054181
I think that's a bad idea.
Facial movement would ruin the magic.

>>11054163
It'll make its way here, be patient.

which kigu wud u fuq

>>11055982

source pls

>>11054189
i prefer a closed mouth as well, the always laughing expression looks a bit silly, but sometimes good on photos.

Can't this dude do any other poses? I'm getting sick of the hand on chest thing.

>>11059521

He doesn't have a lot of photos for you to complain.

>>11059544
Because he's too busy bitching about how bad of a kig he is while still posting pictures of himself.

>>11059587

So, is he? I think it's perfectly acceptable to someone say that he sucks in order to you point his mistakes out. Actually it's a question for you to answer. If you can't, then just say that you don't notice any.

This type of behavior only annoys shit people who by not being able to be better than him try to find a way to attack him and choose then to blame his perfectionism and passion for what he does, twisting the argument as "bitching about how he sucks".
And I should stop trying to defend people I don't even know.

wait but isn't it usually dudes who where these

>>11059611
victimizing yourself is a way to relieve yourself. the guy has mistakes but admits it instead of improving it

>>11059654
and the plot thickens

>>11059670

If he stays on the inertia of not solving his problems and he already knows the solution, then I agree with you anon.
But I yet think it's a problem of not understanding what he's complaining about and expecting for you to answer. Maybe you don't know the answer. Maybe he doesn't know the answer, then he asks and complains again.

I do that myself, and it sounds to some people as if I am complaining a lot, when I'm not.

>>11059670
>the guy has mistakes but admits it instead of improving it
How can you improve your mistakes if you don't even admit them? When you put it like that, it almost sounds like you'd be against communication in general.

>>11059654
best post in whole thread

>>11059691
I agree, some people just like to get down on themselves. It's a way people cope. Those people often do improve because they're hard on themselves before other people can be critical of them.

>>11059611
>>11059670
>>11059683
To me it seems like he's trying to milk compliments out of people by constantly criticizing how he looks. I mean like in a way where he's making it super obvious so they can't find away to say anything negative; if that makes any sense.

Anyhow judging by their body shape, and the way how they publicly communicate on their page leads me to believe that they are infact female. Except instead of greatly inflating their self image like Kuri, they self-depreciate

>>11059710

True, I agree, and most of these people accept criticism.

>>11059818

Yep, but I don't think so. I mean, why would he do such a thing when the community itself praises even shit?

wait but isn't it usually dudes who wear this?

>>11060371
link to video?

>>11060471
I like the way this is going.

This kig is 2 meters tall, 2.15 meters with mask
@aochin12k

>>11060591
Whoa that's trippy.

>>11060235
thats a bit of a bad shot in my opinion, they should probably change the hair so it looks less flat as well

>>11060579
I really like that dress. and if you look at his twitter you'll see that he has a nice package as well.

>>11060579

nice, but he doesn't look so good.

>>11060390
Anyone?

>>11061954
>>11060390
Did some digging, found it for ya:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/31586221

You better be grateful, it took me like an hour of fighting with my shitty internet connection and searching nearly every way possible before finally making some progress.

>>11062984
Thank you, you kind, patient soul

>>11062984
Thank you anon, I appreciate it.

>>11060239
MOTHER OF GOD A LARGER RES PICTURE OF HER, praise be.

>>11060246
moar

for all those people in all those past threads that have asked if male character kigs were a thing

source is http://ameblo.jp/dot-omega-dot

>>11061709

Really? I think she looks pretty cute. Would love to see more of her to find out for sure though.

>>11064770

Some more from her twitter.

,

Would anyone here follow a twitter that just retweeted kig photos?

>>11064767
source?

>>11064745
Source please

>>11064932

Sure, chances are I'm already following the sources though.

>>11064932
I already do.

I won't follow yours, though

Does anyone have some profile shots of sigma's or any decent kig for that matter? preferably those super nice customs.

>>11068652
Are you that lazy? There's tons of photos out there!

>>11068916

It's precisely because there's tons that I'm asking. Some may have a well organized archive.

Some may remember seeing one on a particular blog.

Plus asking doesn't hurt.

http://video.fc2.com/en/a/member?mid=32761594
Can someone put her videos in a mediafire link?

I still haven't gotten a reply from any one about getting added to the kigurumi social networking site. Just my luck, I guess I will just have to message ayame-store and see if I get in.

Will let you folks know if this works.

>>11069677
Any luck?

what do you think of a kigu with these proportions?

>>11071358
With a better mask I'd like it.

>>11071780

of course with a better mask

>>11071780
and appropriate footwear

You may as well forget it. They aren't going to let some random person in and have them take material from there and repost it here.

>>11072253
Rule is also to not post any content from that site anywhere else without consent.

>>11069677

Stop trying to get in. It's a community for performers. Not for random internet stalkers. If they wanted just anyone in. it'd be public now wouldn't it.

>>11072778
>assuming that the guy is a random stalker and not a performer
>assuming that every performer has access to sns

>>11073003

Your point being? If he's actually a performer. And a good one at that. An invite will probably eventually turn up from someone. If not then tough shit. You don't belong there in the first place.

Most people on here are fans rather than performers in my experience.

>>11073066

>assuming that all good performers are invited to join it

>>11073089

Well I'm in it and from what I can tell all the good one's actually are in. So yeah. Not an assumption at all.

>>11073122

Are sure you guys aren't missing people?

>>11073122

Are you sure you guys aren't missing some people?

>>11073198

Like who?

>>11073122
How many usa people?

>>11073232

A dozen or so?

>>11073225

The thing is, these secretive things usually don't join people who are good together, but instead people who think similarly only, not exactly good people.

>>11073245
names?

>>11073304

He won't give names. This is against the purpose of that community.

>>11073251
what?

>>11073359

What I mean is that, if you know people, you know that some won't invite others just because they "dislike" them.

>>11073373
Why are you putting "dislike" in quotes?

>>11073395
They don't really dislike them.

>>11073395

Because they don't objectively dislike someone, but instead, subjectively dislike that kigu, and therefore, don't invite them.

In the end, only an undeserving bunch get acess to the thing, and some who do deserve because they do well don't.

>>11073414
Why doesn't the west start our own SNS? Is there something stopping us from doing it?

>>11073500

Well, no one wants to do it and then piss off some other people who don't deserve to be invited or have their own community and will start crying: "Why are you trying to compete with me!!!!???", and they would start badmouthing you because they are "influent".

There's a solution to it, making it really secret and less drama-wise, like a secret group in Google (Facebook has too much shit on it already), an Skype group chat or even an e-mail list.

Which I believe already happen, but I really don't have any proof of its existence.

Im a westerner an I'm on the SNS there are under 12 foreigners on there.

>>11073842

If some kigu asked you to join it would you invite him/her?

>>11073862
If I knew them. I've invited some non performers before too but they haven't accepted the invitation yet.

>>11073955

Who? The invited ones or the admins? Is there some kind of filter?

>>11073976
Theres no filter. I was invited by a non performer, so its not really a big deal if you're not a performer. He joined the sns by sending an email to Ayame. If he got in I think anyone can join.

Just avoid the japanese nationalists though, they'll try to get you banned from the site. Everyone is friendly though and will try to practice english with you.

>>11074013
I sometimes feel like the kig thread is a bizarre game of telephone where we all act like we know things and take each other seriously (because no one else will).

Can anyone tell me the secret codes to get into the underground kigurumi base where they keep all the good porn?

>>11071358
I like tall guys.

>>11074112

So what is wrong in the anon's statement? It's very easy to say - "You don't know shit" - but then don't prove your statement.

And post tall kigu, I'd like to see some too.

>>11074132
There's nothing wrong with what he said. I was talking about pretty much everyone else. Between people trying to pry into secret kig places that don't exist and knights rushing to the defense of pure maidens that don't exist, 90% of the people in this thread (including me) are delusional.

>post tall kigu
That might be difficult. They try to hide their height mostly.

>>11074013
so the whole thing is pretty much bullshit anyway.
problem is we have crappy choices besides

>>11074306

I don't see why doesn't anyone starts a community without bullshit and drama on it and where people will really try to improve.

Everyone lacks drive to do the obvious solution.

>>11074112
Kigurumi porn is usually shared between performers and is sworn to secrecy.

There are countless videos out there that aren't made public. If only you knew some of the things I've seen..

>>11075195

That's what doesn't make sense. They record these videos and share between themselves. There is a lot of hate inside the community and people doesn't seem loyal to each other. Why does a whistleblower don't appear then and share someone else's video? They probably shared across a lot of peers already.

You guys are getting weirder by the minute. Whatever happened to normal sexuality?

>>11076365
Liberal subhumans and their acceptance of literal degenerates as normal.

>>11075195
I'd love to know what you've seen. I know from fc2 and xhamster that bondage, latex and breathplay are quite common.

>>11076365
Anonymity allows people to be honest. The appearance of normal sexuality is a side effect of people pretending to be normal.

>>11076369
>>>lgbt

I would like to fuck a slim girl while she is wearing her kig

However I do not know how to undertake such an operation

Because y'all be gay niggaz

>>11076738
Find a girl, buy a kigu and make her wear it.

>>11076738

I would like to lick a cute girls asshole while she says I'm her bitch

However I do not know how to undertake such an operation

Because you aren't a cute girl

>>11074112
http://hpsart.net/download_page/downlord_anime.html ?

>>11078113
secret kig base is not a physical location, but instead a state of mind. I go there in my dreams.

>>11079656
Whoa
I can understand someone taking a picture in a pool or something to be XD but thats a fucking lake

>>11079665
If you think about it, lakes have natural water. Pools have chlorine in their waters. One it can mess up dye in the wigs, and it might have a greening effect on paint. But thats a maybe. Never seen a kig try it in a pool and if they have the must of washed it pretty quickly after the shoot.

>>11074339
its not like bullshit and drama is intentionally created (well it is but you know what i mean) kigurumi is a hobby with a competitive nature to it so it would be pretty much impossible for a community without a little bit of drama to be created

>>11079656
for some reason that really reminds me of nirvanas album cover.....

>>11080223

>>11080068

But competition is good. It doesn't create drama unless the parties competing want to create it. Thus, it is intentionally created.

Anyone knows when it's time to say: well, this guy did better than me, so I'll ask him how he did, so I can improve my work.
Crying or starting drama is what real losers do.

>>11080474

huehuehue

>>11081290
thats just the issue though, not everyone can admit someone is better than them even if its blatantly obvious, you've got to be extremely mature to do that and theres a lot of western kigs who aren't

that would probably work in japan where its just a hobby and/or fetish for most people, but in the western community it seems like a lot of people use it as escapism or to fill the void of not having much of a social life, and to those people who actually want to "be" that anime girl they take it very hard when someone says they aren't

>>11081581

Dude, even if it's escapism for "zero social life" (because I think a lot of japanese guys who do it have no social life too), this doesn't imply that they have to bitch about everytime you ask them to be mature.

I'm curious as hell. what natsuki trying to do, anyway?
could it be, anon.

>>11081878

Profit.

>>11081690
kigurumi is their social life. The past weekend, there was kigurumi bowling and a bbq with a bunch of people.

>>11082085

That was why Japan is nice. They overcame the problem of lack of social life with a common hobby.

Which doesn't mean that they hadn't had the problem once.

Anyway, stating this doesn't destroy my argument too. I still go by the idea that there's a lot of stupid people, and thus by being stupid is why the problem happens, and not their problem turns them into stupid people.

>>11080223
>>11080474
How have i not seen this before, this is perfect.

>>11081886
It's extremely cheap (I think 150 yen? something like that). I bought to be courteous although I'm not interested in what's in it whatnot.

>>11083363

True. It makes no sense to profit from a DVD. Release the contents freely in the web and profit from ads.

>>11080474

Source on this btw? Waterproof kig seems like a neat idea... But I most certainly wouldn't take it into a fucking lake lol.

>>11083536
http://www2u.biglobe.ne.jp/~kiglumin/shati-sakuhin.html

>>11084257
I remember there being more of these river photos with a few different kigs. Anyone know where they are?

>>11087843

>http://s1305.photobucket.com/user/Kig-Gallery/library/?sort=3&page=1

it was posted a long time ago
hope you can find ur pics

>>11087146
i realy don't like ho the mouth looks, maybe because its missing teeth.

>>11088031

open mouth sucks. i really don't get why people like it.
i mean, maybe it was done right three or two times?

>>11087917
Hmmm, didn't manage to find any that were not on the above link. Found some other good photos though, thanks.

>>11088031
Been awhile since we have seen any new photos of you, hope you are not too busy!

>>11088242
oh yeah...
going to a convention this weekend, i am sure i get some good photos there.
But i was mostly not in the mood to do any cosplay stuff and too busy with other things.

>>11054936
I'm still waiting

>>11088085
I suppose it sort of makes sense for the stage shows, it'd be even weirder if they were talking with their mouths closed.

I still want to get on the Kigurumi SNS..

>>11090710
You don't want to.
People are slowly abandoning it.

>>11091823

How do I know you're not lying? How do you know what's best for someone?

You either give invites or don't give. If the anon says he wants to get in, you either accept or refuse.

I don't deserve to be in there. They don't want me there. That's why I don't ask for invites.

>>11083363
Where did you buy it? I dont see it on the site anywhere.

>>11091823
From what I hear theres a lot of stuff that isn't posted elsewhere and that it's really active? Sorry but I don't believe your lie.

>>11090710
Whining on here isn't really going to help you get an invite.

Is it just me or does Tsuki seem like she's only in this mask making and kigurumi game to gain male attention?

I heard that she only got into it because she's chasing after Reika Kurokawa.

>>11093458

Whatever, no one wants to hear this kind of stuff. Keep the badmouthing to yourself and your friends.

>>11093458
I think it's better when the community is aware of what is going on behind the scenes. I want to create something similar to Neighborhood Watch, where everyone who is interested into kigurumi, and performs kigurumi knows what is going on - let it be negative or positive.

For example a lot of performers and mask makers tend to hide things to create a perfect self image. (ie. Wyu, Cici, and Tsuki etc). Tsuki has stolen money from customers claiming to start working on their masks. Cici has harassed their own community members and ruined people's self esteem. Wyu has stolen money from a charity(Cici is guilty as well) and publicly shames their own customers. Wyu also likes to humilate anyone who they don't deem to be up to their standard. (refer to Lura The Passerby Drama).

A community that is informed is stronger.

>>11094134
> (refer to Lura The Passerby Drama)
Could I get a quick rundown on what happened with that. I stopped reading in there because it's pretty much a cesspool

>>11094134

It's a nice proposition anon. But I don't wanna hear gossips. Especially because some of these have no evidence. I just ask you to do it impersonally, then I'm all for it. Knowledge is power, in the end.

>mask makers creating a perfect self-image
True, and I agree. But in the end they have to sell their product. Marketing is hiding failure too. I think I can let this thing pass. What they can't censor is commentary/reviews about it.

>Tsuki has stolen money
I heard this story too, but when I came to check the veracity of these facts in 4chan (because I though people here are prone to show evidence of things or counter the argument with proof of the contrary), all I got was that I was incinting drama. Please, show me facts then.

>Cici has harassed their own community
Ellaborate on that matter, please.

>Wyu has stolen money from charity
True, in parts. The guy never paid him in the end.

>Humiliate anyone who don't deem to be up to their standard
Their lack of standard, you mean? You can't consider their opinions, because they think anything that's shittier than their works good, and anything better than their works bad.

I also would like to reiterate that I agree with you that knowledge (either positive or negative) is always good, because it's not up to us to judge the usage of it, but just back up your statements with proper evidence, or no one is going to listen to you and they'l blame it on 4chan (which they'd if you show evidence too, but at least they're going to rage over it, because it's true).

>>11094687

because I thought*
inciting*

I have to properly review my posts. Sorry for the bad grammar anyways.

>>11094557
I googled it, I'm guessing he was talking about this:
http://kigcos.com/social/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1798&start=20#post22586

>>11093458
Oh no, a performer with a love life. Call the kig police gaiz.

>>11093458
Implying all performers are not seeking MALE attention in some fashion.

>>11094978

Some just do it for themselves.You're right.
By doing to yourself and yourself being a male, you're seeking male attention.

Damn, anon, I like your reasoning.

>>11094990
>>11094990
Most do it for male attention. Saying they do it for themselves and then posting pictures in bikinis, corsets, lewd photos, accidental hitachi wands, etc only means they're lying to themselves or others.

>>11095057

Who was talking about the ones who post pics with bikinis, corsets,etc?

>>11095077
Saying that one person does it for male attention in a entire community of people who do public cams and pictures for attention is a unfair assumption. It's easy to point fingers at girls and call them "attention whores" because they are girls. However, people seem to look over the obvious actual attention whores. I find this a damning but funny aspect of the kigurumi communtiy. Not unlike slut shaming and the cosplay community.

>>11095101

Not everyone does public cams.
Not everyone releases pictures.

It's an unfair assumption to say everyone's like this.

Who cares if they do it for male attention anyway? It's not like it matters. I want just to see good kigu, that's all. Besides that, it's all bullshit and drama.

>>11094134
What customers did Tsuki rip off?

>>11094687
Seems like she is going the route of Kimei's mask maker and Mirai. They are known for ripping people off and stealing money. That's way the one Japanese maker stopped updating/ making masks for so long. I also heard and read that Wyu and the Hikarinaka have been known to do this too. All mask makers rip people off.

I'm genuinely curious what the appeal of this is.

I don't get it, it seems too uncanny valley for me. And it's mostly guys doing it anyway.

>>11095202

Ripping people off like how?

>>11095239

It's just cool for some. I don't have a better way to explain. Some people will say it's fetish, some people will say otherwise. It really doesn't matter in the end.

It's okay to dislike too. Perfectly understandable.

>>11095255
That's fair and all, I just figure the uncanny valley exists for most people, so I figured that the people who like KiG must have some other way of 'getting it.'

I tried looking up the porn for fun. It was not fun for me.

>>11095262

As well as it isn't for me too. I just like the idea of cosplaying any character you want, actually. I've always had a thing for female anime chars (I don't think males are cool or so, somehow), and as a male I can't cosplay them. Kig allows me to do them.

That are my reasons I think. I'm not sure of it anyway. I prefer to say that I just like it.

>>11095282
I guess. But I'd rather fuck (or even get to know) a normal cosplayer before I get close to one of these things, even if a hot girl was inside.

It is my sincere hope that karma hits those of you attacking individuals based on fabricated information.

>>11095349

If it's fabricated info prove otherwise then.
Although the burden of proof is responsability of the accusator.

May as well forget about SNS. Based on risk and leaks, they are moving on to other places.

>>11095262
The uncanny valley isn't absolute. What falls into it can be somewhat different for different individuals. For me, kig is unrealistic enough to not fall into it (the majority of kigs aren't even close to falling into it for me), but things like female latex/silicone masks usually do.

>>11064801
Anybody know the source for this one?

Oh look, image maxed.

>>11100208
NEW THREAD

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>>11100208 (You) (Cross-thread)
NEW THREAD

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>>11100208
NEW THREAD

>>11097546
https://twitter.com/aochin12k

>>11060579
O-oh my.....