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nice things are not nice

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moot, your personal army's spamming your own site again

or do you want them doin' that? I don't get it

>>10991581

What?! Miku again!?

>>10990667
>>10991063

Both ideas seem good.

How about some casual kigs?

I'm curious what's everyone's favorite kig here?

Not the performer. I mean specific mask.

For me it's this guy's. I can't get over how fucking pretty it is. I don't even care for the character. Just the way it looks. Too fucking nice. I kinda hate the dude for having something so good.

>>10992681

This classic Haruhi here.
I just fell in love into kig thanks to this guy.

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Nigger American*

Coruja please stop posting such long-winded and mood killing posts. People aren't here to listen to you complain about how "masks are too small" or "how you hate people". We don't care that you try really hard digging up dirt on other Kigurumi either.

We're just here to look at cute kigurumi and have happy thoughts. No drama. Please, leave that for somewhere else.

Also before you accuse people of "calling you out". Take time to reflect upon yourself.

That last thread that clogged up with your self-pitying posts makes me wanna hurl.

>>10992681

This one is just so fucking hnnnngggg.

>>10992891

The only problem is that it wasn't me doing the "how I hate people" stuff yesterday nor I do long posts because I simply don't have patience to do such long stuff nor I care enough to dig up dirt on other kigurumi.

I lurk here mostly, and post sometimes, like now. Go fuck yourself and think before accusating someone of doing stuff.
Nuff said.

>>10991869
like I said in the last thread, they should get together
>>10992681
I don't think I have a favourite really, there's 3 that I really (and i mean really ) like
can't really pick on either so i guess ill post all 3

>>10992981
one of the only anthro ones i like

>>10992987

>>10992891
Just adding:

Now as you called my name, and probably has some hate with my person from a long time (but don't know who you are), could you please present yourself and contact me privately in order to not drop this drama on 4chan and solve things like gentlemen?

Thanks.

>>10993043
Its not worth the time to be honest.

And before you back pedal and say its not you. Its painfully obvious who you are even when posting as Anon. Also you probably don't know me.

>>10993105

Sure it is. As it is now. I'm pretty damn obvious.
But it was not me crying over the last thread, believe it or not.
I don't take my personal problems out in public.

But if you want to think that I'm throwing drama at this thread, then shall be it.

>>10993162
Your apparent stalking and drama hunting doesnt really help you though.

>>10993272

Then prove I was doing that then. Good luck.
And don't you want to stop with the drama? I already said, if you want to solve your issues with me, talk privately to me. Stop throwing unbiased accusations on 4chan. Aw, yes, waste of time.

>>10992681
I adore this miku, and wish to be inside her.

>>10993296

Does anyone know who made her?

>>10993304

Pretty sure that would be Sega.

>>10992681

Posting some of my kigufus

Is that an attempt at a replica?

Seems interesting. Source please.

Anyone got the first set posted in https://archive.foolz.us/jp/thread/2768765 ?

>>10993285
Go fuck yourself dude. You have the same typing style.

>>10993547

It was me then, congratulations, you win.

>>10993350

Nah, the mask, I mean.

>>10993583
Lots of people have the asperger's typing style. You probably would too if you wrote posts longer than 1 sentence.

>>10993623

You mean the picky selection of words, right? I usually can't find the words to express my thoughts so I try to be very precise with my language, and yet I'm a failure.
And I don't like to write a lot because it's often redundant.

Then you argue that I don't write posts longer than one sentence and yet you people accuse me of doing that crying stuff there that was clearly longer than one sentence. Makes perfectly sense to me.

>>10993643
I meant to reply to the guy replying to you. Your writing is bad but that's true of pretty much everyone who posts here. The guy replying to you avoid mistakes because he only posts one sentence at a time.

>>10993657

Ah, I see.
Well, let's stop with this shit. The guy there was clearly a coward and don't wanna solve his issue with me. There's no point in throwing anymore of this shit in 4chan.
I'm still working on my writing, though.

inb4 post kig

>>10993674
>Implying theres only one guy that hates you

>>10993727

What I said applies to everyone else, too.
And I already said, enough. This isn't the point of this thread, right?

>>10993740
where did you find that?

>>10993740
a wild wailord has appeared

>>10993740
Look at those chestnuts.

>>10993918

It's funny when you consider wyu kigs are bigger than most kigs.

Where do most of these Japanese kigurumi hang out anyways? Like an online community They don't really seem to communicate through facebook.

The only thing I can think of is twitter. Is that really all they talk on?

>>10993970

Mixi too.
And you don't need a community to hang out. Most of them have local friends who kig too, and they're likely part of their circle.

>>10993740

What a fat fucking Wyu tard, please do not shit post.

>>10993740

Why do I think this post was done with the possible replies in mind?

>>10993740

>>10994294

>>10994294
>>10994357
cut that shit out.

>>10994377

>>10994377

While the harpoon's thing is a bit mean. No one wants to see wyubots. They're completely uninteresting. That image as another anon said was probably posted just to annoy people and prompt these reactions.

>>10994417

True anon.
In the meantime, have some Natsuki boobies.

Are there any Kig hardcore sex videos?

>>10994394
I decided to look because of these images, and jesus christ is that person ever fat and disgusting.

I require images of kigu locked inside their suit.

>>10994357

>>10994576
Seconded

>>10994602

Does this count?

Newcomer here, I have one question. While you guys want to dress up as anime girls (which is fine), why do fat people decide to even try this? Like what is the appeal? Aren't anime girls skinny and not god fucking fat like the picture >>10993740 ? It really kills the whole image and ruins the perspective on pretty anime girls. Another thing is why do people even post their pictures even though it looks so fucking bad and it hurts me just looking how bad and fat it looks? Please answer.

>>10994612
Source? I've seen this Frau posted so much but I don't know the source.

>>10994612
I don't see any lock.

>>10994629

They're from a community of idiots who praise each other mindlessly despite how awful they look. It's kinda why western kigs have a bad rep.

They tend to only post their shit where their friends can see. but occasionally it leaks out.

All the actually decent kigs though have a decent figure as you can see all over this thread. Or at least are working towards that. Unlike those people.

>>10994629

Although what the anon said above counts, there's some of them who want to be girls and not anime girls.
That is sort of a big difference and explain the phenomena.

>>10994634

https://twitter.com/rin_piass59fxxk/

>>10994644

:(

Locks on kigs is pretty hawt actually.

I kinda wanna mod mine to somehow do this.

>>10994669

moar frau

>>10994715

Cut the drama, please.

>>10994289
of course. The person in this picture never posted this picture in public. The problem is that you can't shame a shameless person.

>>10994745

Aren't you afraid that this person knows you leak photos now?

>>10994753
You think he only shared it with one person?

>>10994770

It's unlikely. He doesn't seem much smart to feed every person a different picture to know where the leaks are too.

>>10994728

>>10994745

Fat people have no shame, they just continue to be fatter than ever and blame society that we are not accepting them. There is a good reason why we don't accept them. They are fucking horrible and disgusting and too lazy to even exercise to get a better body. This pretty much sums up all the wyu tards. Picture related.

>>10994834

Being ugly is not a reson.
Being lazy may be.

>>10994834

I'd agree with the lazy part.
Plus it's about being healthy.

>>10994918

Who is this?

>>10994918

Is it a Nukopan's mask?

>>10994936

Seems to be.

Anon pls respond. Who is this performer.

>>10994834
I hate wyu as much as anyone but I like fat people. They're so squishy and huggable. What's your deal? Did a fat person crush your dog?

>>10994894
What's the point? You can be skinny as fuck and only eat vegetables and you're still going to die of AIDS. Are you going to tell death that it's not fair for you to get hit by a truck since you work out till you injure yourself and only eat organic bean sprouts?

>>10994955
That would be Kuri....one of the females from USA

>>10994965

Did the fatty get offended?

>>10994965

Because it looks bad.

If your fine with being a fat ass. Fine with me. But some people aren't happy with their current body and actually want to put in some effort.

Why accept shit when you CAN improve.

>>10994982

This.
You're doing a hobby that includes presenting yourself to people, so expect to be judged

>>10994965

hi kuri :D

>>10994947
>>10994918
Selling out to mindless perverts asking for un-masking pictures. All respect lost. Why do girls continue to do this?

>>10994965

I need to do sex, in order to die from AIDS.

>>10995003

Well, people can do whatever they want with their masks. Are you a moralfag?

>>10995003

Who knows. As a performer too. Who is male though. I find it stupid.

Keep ruining western kig rep.

And is that that mako guy on kcs?

>>10995010
No. I just think it breaks image or the overall allure of kigurumi when people choose to do pictures like this. They think just because they're girls they don't have to be held to the same standards as male performers.

>>10995010
I'm afraid you've caught electric AIDS from a computer virus. You've probably got between 0 and 40 years left to live.
>>10995013
As if western kig rep could get worse.

>>10995035

I love full head kigs, Want one so bad. So I can lock myself in it.

>>10995013

Dude, do you even see the pics that japanese performers post on Twitter?
There's a lot of them who post photos without wearing masks.
If they want to unmask, let them do it.

>>10995035

And who's saying a male performer CAN'T post his pics too?
They don't do because they don't like. And I understand them.

>>10995046

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Why do I never see any Western Kigurumi outside of cons doing photos?

>>10995046
It will only get much worse thanks to Wyu and Kigcos. When those who have no respect for kigurumi as a artform are who newcomers look up to then yes, it's going to get worse and worse.

can a anon dump good non jp kigurumi pics?

New penetration vids where?

>>10995074

Your pic seem kinda related though.
It's because they are afraid of being judged, obviously.

>>10995075

I've been saying about those damn Mexicans, these guys are improving!

>>10995074
You must not be looking hard enough.

>>10995086
If there were any to begin with, I have to know.

>>10995035
It's not a standard, you retard, it's common sense that a guy wearing a dress wouldn't want to show his face. It doesn't mean that the girls need to pretend they are shameful crossdressers as well.
>>10995056
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I'm afraid it's true. You should probably make plans accordingly.
>>10995074
because they have no friends, just like us.
>>10995075
Dude, the Japanese consider even the best western cosplayers to be embarrassing failures compared to Japanese standards. No matter how much worthlessness you add to something worthless, it's still just worthless.

>>10995106
You sound like a japanophile anon. Even the Japanese have bad performers.

>>10995118
sure they have bad performers. What makes them different from us is that they also have good performers. Western performers could start wearing paper mache masks and randomly chosen women's clothing from a thrift shop and there wouldn't be an appreciable drop in their quality. 0 divided by any number is still 0.

>>10995118

True dat.

Look at the ayame store masks. Awful.

>>10994982
>>10994994
So you're everyone earning six figures, passed JLPT5, and has a beautiful girlfriend who makes you bentos ever day? hurf durf jpgelion 5.5 you can (not) improve.

>>10995108
There most certainly are, however you have to pay for them. As I am in poor financial trouble I am only requesting that someone upload them to a free file hosting site for everyone's pleasure.

>>10995134

Atleast some westerners are trying. Or atleast working towards improving themselves. Albeit these individuals are kind of rare.

>>10995118
I think its common knowledge that western attempts at cosplay/kig are absolutely terrible, and should just kill themselves.

>>10995138

What are you on about? You seem upset. Just because your okay with being a whale doesn't mean everyone else has to be. Get over it.

>>10995152
I'd like to think I'm doing okay

>>10995134

Except by zero.

>>10995143

Yes, they are rare. Their income doesn't help though. I think they should first solve their income problem, then they should think about kigging.

>>10995152

inb4 @kigdaza, @kigcasey, @kaito_aru, @waifuku
And there's more, these are just the ones I can remember.

>>10995157

Who are you?

>>10995134
The west has good performers. Rabbit, Miharu, Draconpern, Kimei, Tsuki, Rinrin, Yagami, Motoko and the list goes on. The west also has shit performers like Cici, Cody and Claire. I think it is unfair to assume all western kigurumi are as bad as you say they are.

>>10995183
If I admit who I am, I will get called out for being an attention whore.

>>10995213
Hey Kuri.

>>10995225
Sorry bub, you are wrong.

>>10995184

But they are, in general.
Are there like 15 good performers? But how many perform? A hundred? 15% then.

>>10995213

Just post a pic and run. You said that you're doing okay, you asked for being judged.

>>10995143
It's a little sad. The worst western kigurumi at least understand that they will never be any good. The ones who try to "improve" themselves have only fooled themselves into thinking they can ever climb out of the pool of shit they were born in.
>>10995154
>U MAD?
try harder
>>10995184
compare your list of the best western kigurumi to any of the photos of Japanese kigurumi in this thread. Just because they are the best western kigurumi doesn't mean they are good kigurumi.

>>10995239

Some can improve just fine. Stop being so anti western.

anon-chan does not like me =(

>>10995239

Casey and Daza ain't japanese and they're pretty damn good at kig. Top tier even.

>>10995184
I am constantly amazed when I make it on people's list of good kigu.

But I'm still kinda pudgy.

>>10995239

Even the ones who are wearing japanese masks?
The mask does a lot of the work, you just need a proper zentai and a good enough cosplay then and to take care of it.

>>10995258

Although you are one of the best you should quit wearing that mask. Sculpting/painting looks rough on it. It's quite nostalgic even, makes me remember of the first Dolphin masks.
You should wear more that Mirai Suaenaga one.

Although you might have a lot of passion by being Haru.

>>10995264

I've said that first ;p.

>>10995258

Are you actually haru? I think I tried to contact you awhile ago but haven't heard from you.

>>10995253
If you would just bother to look you would see that they don't even come close.
>>10995258
Isn't he Chinese?
>>10995264
They both speak Japanese and spend time in Japan. You can't even find decent kigurumi for the list without stealing them from Japan.

>>10995306

You know. Some do want to improve and actually do. The problem. Isn't them. It's people like you.

Also casey and daza are australian. Not Japanese. They went and got good at this. Others can do this too. Lose the blind hate.

Thanks for the shout out jp. Stay fresh.

>>10995287

You have to understand that a lot of kigs are afraid of peverts.

>>10995315

Just don't blame on the guy. Watch your ad hominem.
He's just trolling you, and he won now.

>>10995326

Because "winning" in that way matters in anyway shape or form. The person in question is doubly pathetic in that case.

>>10995336

"It's people like you". Here's your ad hominem.

>>10995326
Oh come on. Haru's as big a pervert as any. Kigs just don't have time for worthless faggots.
>>10995315
>Others can do this too.
You're pretty funny. Well, if all it takes is learning Japanese, living in Japan and making friends with Japanese kigurumi then we are all so incredibly close to not looking like shit! Thank you for opening my eyes anon! I'll never point out that western kigs are shit again because now I know how soon they will be good!

Calm your tits Japanophiles. Nobody will replace your precious nihonjin kigus. Now grow the fuck up and be more supportive of your own community.

The american community was off to a good start in the beginning. Everyone had nice masks, decent suits, then Wyu came along. Things went shit-tier pretty fucking fast if you ask me. I remember when the only shit-tier performer was Cody. The way this community has evolved is very disappointing.

Picture related: It's the new western standard.

Why has this thread broken down into this kind of garbage again? Post kig, not whine and bitch at each other. What's the point?

>>10994978
>>10994947
>>10994918
She is not a bad Kig, just needs improvement. I think she is part japanese though.

>>10995413
She's as Japanese as Pixyteri.

>>10995404

With all my respect, I use that as a standard of what not to do.

>>10995154
I wish I was a whale, I've only been losing weight since I went vegetarian. Nothing would make me happier than to be some 500 pound disgusting monster.

>>10995540
also I'd hate to see these threads start ended up in CGL or something, can you guys stop acting like catty girls?

>>10993740
that kig has three thighs!

>>10995932

That fat disgusting piece of shit looks awful.

Getting a voice actor's picture with your kigurumi character does not make you a good example of a performer . Voice actor's do not want a bad reputation and will be nice to you regardless of how strange they may find you. This mask for example is poorly constructed. The mask itself has it's own double chin and when you can't see a neck while wearing your mask you need to lose weight or add more padding. Nobody is picking on you because you wear male masks. They mentioned you because you not only act badly in public while wearing kigurumi but you also are lacking many other qualities the people named as good performers have such as good photos, nice masks, a acceptable body shape for your characters and a lack of common sense when interacting with other performers. As most people know you have groped other performers without permission.

I think that you must either be truly delusional or have a unfounded sense of self worth if you think this looks attractive or appealing in any manner.

>>10995999
why are there so many fat americans into this?

>>10996008
If offers a community of acceptance for misfits and everyone if too afraid of being labeled a bitch if they speak out against what looks bad or what looks good.

>>10996008
If offers a community of acceptance for misfits and everyone is too afraid of being labeled a bitch if they speak out against what looks bad or what looks good. That is what the west has going against it.

>>10996023

True, America is fat and they know they can't ever have good bodies like Asians do. That's is why Cody and Claire continue to attempt kigurumi while looking like a fat fucking idiot.

>>10995999
Michael Jackson?

>>10992681
I really like this purple heart one

or any of the other ones with cool eye decals really
(like the Steins;Gate ones for example)

>>10996109

Michael Jackson looked way better.

/sp/ here
man you guys are weird as fuck

>>10996206
bad cotton hadatai, mask has bad proportions, bad paint, bad wig

>>10996212
mask is too small, hadatai is too shiny, no breast to make shoulder area look smaller, mask and hadatai color do not match, painted sneakers look bad 2/10

>>10991579
Can I get a source on this?

People should stop with the shitposting once in a while

>>10996206
>>10996212

Just a question: Is that hard to notice how bad you look?

>>10996206
>>10996212

Just a question: Is it that hard to notice how bad you look?

>>10996495
>>/cgl/

>>10996591

I mean, most of them could pretty figure that out by themselves.
There's plenty of mistakes over the web to look and notice what you should avoid.
And I thought /cgl/ was used more for social outings.

>>10996203
/jp/ here.
We know.

>>10996495
I would hope so. But apparently some people really are that delusional and caught up in "It's a kig so people will appreciate it regardless of how bad it is". It's sad, really.

>>10996604

They are able to ignore all the noise about it looking creepy then.

>>10996600
There are plenty of places all over the internet where you can behave like some stereotypical catty gay or female.

Beyond that isn't that a tumblr or facebook filename? Why respond to a picture like it must have been posted by the subject?

>>10996495
you're talking about a community where all negative feedback is dismissed as haters and trolls, in a country where every kid who plays a team game gets a medal for participating.

on the other hand if conventions vetted every costume for quality we'd never have seen cardboard box gundam, manfaye or boner robin.

>>10996617

The question was not designed to attack the subject, but instead to be an open question

>>10996619
Well maybe I was projecting a little on to you from just having read the previous responses. However it seems that no matter how you ask the question you'd going to get at best no answer and at worst some tumblr level drama.
>>10996618
This is a good point to if these kind of posts even have anywhere to go. I don't know if participation medals really apply seeing as it's not a competition. Unless you look at it as some competition to eyeballs, in which case we can apply such high standards to everyday fashion as well and become true douchebags.

This is probably as far off topic as I want to go. I really just like looking at these threads. If there are a few sub-par western ones mixed in, I don't see the harm. There are probably by percentile more good kigs in the world than there are senators.

>>10996640

Although I agree with you that it'll only cause that kind of drama, what I was expecting was some kind of personal response.

Personally, I'm not that good so that's why I ask other people.

>>10996618

What is the logic about all negative feedback being considered as trolling? It is easy as hell to know who is trolling and who cares about stuff.

>>10994965
I sort of agree with you but its a moot point because it's extremely hard to be fat and look good in kigurumi, its just that sort of hobby, sure its possible, but its extremely hard

fufufufufu

seems like a lot of you guys are jealous of us kigurumi. >:D FUCK UP HATERS!!!!!!! LONG LIVE KIG!!!!

>>10996905

You can fix that. There's no excuse to not try to lose weight. Especially because you'll look better.

>>10996920

Anon, if you want to troll, don't make your attempt so obvious.

>>10994576
>instantboner.jpg

>>10996942
more

FUCK OFF HATERS KIG RULES!

YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT I CANNOT DO!!!!!

>>10996963
you cannot lose weight

>>10996949

I don't think this is the sauce but have fun:
>http://kamituro.liblo.jp/archives/11325935.html

Claire out of Kig on the right. Looks like he gained more weight since then.

Ichigo NYAN

If you mutter Claire Rieva three times in a mirror....

Good morning my pretties! ^w^

Summer is around the corner!

Who said this is cute girly wear. It looks like a grandma.

Speak of the devil.

And redye your suit. Or better yet. Get a good one.

>>10997019
>>10997027
>>10997041
>>10997051
>>10997060

He sucks dude, but this type of behavior you're using will make things only worse.
He'll not listen to anyone else because he'll turn down even concrit.
Unless of course, you purposefully want to seek out revenge on him. Then you can do whatever you want.
Just avoid posting this kind of shit, nobody wants to see fat kigs or drama.

I wonder if Claire has crotch stains from masturbating in their suit. I'm scared to take a black light to it.

>>10997125
No doubt about it.. I admit if I were to kig I wouldn't be able to resist the urge.

It was a beautiful day Blue Moon HQ; a young female officer was enjoying a day off from the front lines smiling brightly. She was walking by her friend's door seeing it cracked open. Suspicious she walked up to the door calmly when she peaked in seeing her friend wearing a mask posing in front of a camera. She backed up a bit blushing red. Calmly she brushed back her hair and quietly entered the room watching her friend. Shortly after she sat down she saw her friend turn off the camera,
"Wow," she said softly to her, "That looks incredible Maggie," she said gigging blushing brightly. She froze in her place as she turned,
"Y…you saw me Jessica?" she asked looking at me with blushing cheeks. She nod smiling brightly,
"Yes you look amazing in that thing. What is it called Mag's?" she asked looking at her. Maggie took a sip of water slowly calming down,
"It's known as Kigurumi Jess, it's where the performer like myself dress up as a cartoon character. It's a real cool illusion where the performer wears a body suit like you see on my body and this mask and I'm no longer myself," she said giggling, "Instead Jess I'm Luka Harris," she said smiling brightly drinking water.
Jessica looked at her friend in surprise,
"Wow that's just incredible Maggie," she said blushing red, "Is….is it ok if….if I joined….in?" she asked blushing blood red. Maggie smiled brightly,
"Thought you'd never ask my friend come with me and let's get you situated," she said walking further into her room…

>>10997302

copypasta?

>>10997302
This was stupid.

>>10997302

Awful. Because of the individuals involved.

speaking of fat heres a new one of cici as a big green sausage

>>10997510
Not flattering at all. The Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle character is good though.

>>10997510
It makes me sad how bad all those kigs look compared to that nice penguindrum set.

>>10997510
im not sure what their kigs called but the one second on the left looks all right

>>10997607
That's sakura from Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle

How big are the GouKaOu masks in general? I remember reading that they are rather tight so would it seem out of proportion on a taller performer?

>>10997689
at your service anon

>>10997706
Thank you kindly.

>>10997689

Varies with the model.

Claire looks so fucking awful, can someone please explain why he cannot see how fucking terrible he looks?

>>10998015
Delusional, like many millions of fat/ugly people.

>>10998026

Yeah, but why are the standards so fucking low, you get these awful kigurumi calling each other "sister" and "sis" like fucking morons. What the fuck is that shit about? I just find it amazing how fat horrible kigs like claire, cody, and cici even continue. It is like a fucking disease.

>>10998089
For someone like that, if they can get others to recognize them as cute or pretty, they'll do anything. That includes calling other people cute or pretty, no matter how fat they are.

>>10998108

Actually I think it's the spoiled kid syndrome + bullying.
Although you're angry at them because you care about kigu, they are likely to dismiss you as a troll because they don't wanna see their world ruined.

>>10998015
>>10996495
border of hobby and fetish

>>10998108
>>10998166

This makes a lot of sense. I actually care on the quality of kigurumi and looking at horrible fat ones is just a pain. I find it sad that they try so hard but can never not be fat. Their group must of been abused some how or they just dont have any standards.

>>10998199
As a society we are often taught that we are good or special just as we are, or that we can be anything, all in the interest of boosting self esteem. But unearned self esteem is meaningless. These kids just never put in the effort.

>>10998239

Do you want a shocking fact? Those kigs who are good usually have a pretty stable life. Which means they worked their ass off to be able to kig. They weren't chosen to be special and to have a six-salary figure.

Do you want a solution to that problem? Stop giving them attention. Any kind of. Either hate or love. Unfriend them on Facebook. Stop following them on Twitter. Let them die alone with only their same friends. They are spoiled, so it's likely that they'll eventually get sick or fight with these friends.
Let them die alone, basically.

>>10998309
>six-salary figure.
Six-figure salary. LOL DYSLEXIA

>>10997510
why do those big masks look like inverted trash bins barely sitting on their heads?

>>10998478
Quality American workmanship.

>>10997510
Ho Ho Ho green giant

>>10998478

Poor craftsmanship and laziness. Those are standard wyu masks that just look fucking awful.

>>10998650

>standard wyu masks
>implying that there are wyu masks that are special or remarkable, at least different

>>10998015

People will continue believing they are good because of the group they are in praising each other even though they know it sucks. A good example is if you are doing drugs and your group says its cool and accepts you, you will continue. Same with claire, he is so muddled in his group and actually believes he is not fat and disgusting and even his group says he is an awesome kig. But the reality is that claire is a fat horrible kig that will never get better. This is also the main reason why there are so many fat horrible kigs.

So I only keep up with Kigu here and there thus I'm generally out of the loop, so at the risk of starting some possibly serious shitstorm: can someone fill me in on who this "Wyu" is and why he's so reviled/disrespected?

>>10998922
To be as neutral as possible: A popular person who makes masks of debatable quality. They also run one of the busiest forums for the topic, so many folks see them as the reason for any community decay.

after Rabbitinthem00n's kigurumi forum went down I chose to not be on a forum rather than join Wyu's

>>10998922
Also, they tend to pick fights and cause alot of drama if another person ignores them or what they ask of them.

They even call themselves the leader of the english kigurumi community.

>>10998959
>>10998972
Appreciate the info! Will help keep me from making the mistake of falling in with them if that's the case.

I want to see someone rob a bank with these.

>>10997510
Hulk smash!

>>10998990

Just ignore them and get far away from them, they are well known for their shittyness.

>>10998990
Feel free to form your own opinion and not lump every user on the most popular western kig site into one big pile. There are a few good people there, they just don't draw as much attention to themselves.

>>10999003

Why do I get the feeling that I know you anon?

wait but isnt it usually dudes who do this?

>>10999515
There he is... took you long enough.

>>10999527

wait but dudes usually isnt who do this?

>>10999533
This do isn't but who wait usually dudes it?

>>10999547
Do this then dudes who guys these wear who?

>>10999315
I seriously don't get how anyone can even pretend that western kigurumi aren't all worthless. Yes, some are better than others. Even the best of them should be ashamed of how shitty they look.

>>10999577

Hey dude, do you want to kig?

>>10999583
Would be nice, but it's never going to happen. I'm baffled by how many people have convinced themselves that they ever be any good.

>>10999640

As a western you would suck, as you said.
Why don't you offer proper concrit then? You could easily spot what you don't like and you can help them be good performers.

>>10999640
You know, I know I'm not a perfect performer but I still do this for fun. I'm embarrassed a little if some of my photos aren't great but I get the fuck over it and keep trying. What is "worth" to you anyway? I want to make good photos but at the end of the day I still do it for me.

>>10999681

I'd love to discuss photography with some kigus.

>>10999652
1000's of hours of practice? 1000's of dollars of investment? a few friends who kig? A friend who knows about photography?
These things would help even the wyutards but aren't possible for a westerner. We do our hobbies low-budget, low-effort and if you are into this shit chances are you have no friends, let alone friends who share your interests.

>>10999681
I'm not sure what you mean. You do it for fun and I think just admitted that you are not good. What do we disagree about? All I'm taking issue with is that some people come in here and pretend that their favorite western kig isn't shit.

>>10999708

Well, that's you then.
It's common sense that hobbies are expensive. Do you want to play music? A guitar, an amp and pedals can be cheap by themselves but they are likely to get expensive when bought together. Photography? DSLR + lens are expensive as fuck.

I'd agree with you that you don't wanna do because you don't have access to those resources, but work you ass off for them, if you really want to do.

>>10999723
What I do is irrelevant. Western kigs are shit. No matter what I do they remain shit. I even doubt that they could ever improve. As you say, someone could work their ass off and become good, but it hasn't happened yet, and as long as everyone's patting themselves on their back that at least they aren't as bad as the Wyutards I don't see why anyone would bother.

>>10999736

If I had a kigu anon, I'd want you giving your opinions about it.

>>10999736

I say give it a few years. Some good one's should pop up.

>>10999746
Why? He hasn't said anything constructive. He just keeps saying they're shit and only citing the fact they aren't Japanese as to why.

>>10999769

He probably just wanted to annoy you people. Sincerely, I think that's because he cares and has high standards.
Read between the lines.

>>10999746
I usually don't give my opinion. I felt that I should offer a counterpoint to the "we're slightly better than the worst and therefore we're pretty much the same as the best" circlejerk.

>>10999760
I'm pretty sure that that's physically impossible. Before you can become good at something it helps to have access to people who already know how to do it, opportunities to practice and access to the required materials. None of those exist for kigurumi outside of Japan. The best western kigurumi are never going to get past the level of having bought all the things they need but still having no fucking idea what they are doing or why.

>>10999769
Are you fucking blind? It's not one thing that makes western kigs worse. If you see a shitty drawing and mention that it's shitty and the artist says "I only accept 'constructive criticism'", what do you say? Maybe you should improve the whole drawing? Maybe you should practice more before exhibiting your work? Constructive criticism is only possible when the work being criticized actually has some things right about it.

>>10999787
Something just snapped in my head after I read so many people making up with excuses for their own laziness and then blaming others for the consequences of their actions.

>>10999843

I don't know I think it is possible.

The materials aren't impossible to get a hold of. And some less public people do actually know some pretty awesome jp kigs.

Maybe the wyubots are hopeless causes but to blanket term everyone is pretty short sighted. Again from the people I know and am aware of. I predict in a couple years a small handful of good kigs should exist.

>>10999708
I think where we differ is I don't think "not perfect" equals "shit". Shit is soggy french fries, perfect is extra crispy. Just because some are just cooked normally doesn't mean they're just as bad as the cold soggy ones.

>>10999698
sorry, a good camera is the one thing I don't have

>>10999843
You seriously can't fucking think of a way to give criticism other than saying "do it again" or "try harder"? Even the shittiest baby drawing I can think of things to say about. If you're going to complain at least learn how to articulate what you do and don't like. I could write paragraphs on a bad mask when it comes to nose shape, eye positioning, lip sculpture, cheek curves, the locations of the plane changes on the surface, paint job, hair style, etc. There's SO much that can be scrutinized. Don't tell you you can't even think to say "Cut the hair so the ends aren't as choppy" or "loosen up your shoulders when you pose like that" or "try to use basic three-point lighting" or ANYTHING. It's not fucking hard.

>>10999843
have to have access to the japanese kigs? well, let's see, who outside of japan has visited japan...oh, there's goukaou and his friends, casey, daza, dracon...


kigurumi isn't about being the best, it's about having fun. just like with traditional cosplay, there will be amazing cosplayers, those that want to have fun with it, and those that know how to make a low budget go very far. wyu's group is full of shit tier performers because their attitudes make them only able to "have fun" with kigurumi when they are receiving blind praise. you tell them where they can improve they threaten to quite. but wyu's group is still only a small part. they still aren't a majority in the west/non-japanese regions. they just have the biggest spotlight on them

http://www.flickr.com/photos/meidocafejp/sets/72157633416381461/

>>11000375
why does that one guy have to be so lewd and rude all the time? It's annoying and ruins perfectly good photos

>>11000724
>>11000727
source plz.

>>10999946
I'll believe it when I see it.

>>11000329
Doing it for fun is fine. I've got no problem with that. But when you point at the small group of manchildren who put no effort in and then say "we aren't as bad as them therefore we are good" that's fucking crazy. It's like a kid coming home with a test he scored 10% on and when his father's about to beat him the kid says "wait, there was a kid who didn't even hand in the test, and compared to him I did great!"

>>11000169
If you can have excellent french fries or okay french fries, which would you pick? If you can't do something well, why would you show your work in public, unless you figure there are people who will pat you on the back no matter how bad you are and only offer non-threatening little suggestions to become even more perfect instead of asking what's wrong with you that you think what you are doing is okay.

I don't even think you disagree with me. You know the western kigs are terrible and should stop before they embarrass themselves further, but you are emotionally invested in them for some reason. You have to reframe it as the first clumsy attempts that will eventually be replaced by something actually worth looking at. Eventually you'll notice that their improvement has stalled far short of the goal.

>>10998888
You might be right, anon (even though 4chan "pretensions" are almost always ludicrous in how they fail to hit the goal), but the thing is, why do you think, that while you act as troll, those western kiggers, who's acting is still bad, will listen to you? They won't, of course, who mind trolls. Then why do you continue giving your comments to the void, is it some sort of fun? Sad kind of fun, I think.

>>11002231

Depends on what you classify as trolling. Saying Claire is phat isn't trolling, because it's true.

>>11002344
But it is, because while it's only slightly true, it doesn't have to do anything with why her acting is bad.

>>11002408

No one is criticizing his acting.

Its funny when you think that's not trolling because in honesty it is. You say Claire is fat...yea she is but what about you? You sit here on this site and poke fun at her when you could be some lonely slob sitting at a computer screen all day wasting life away coming here trying to feel big and bad. At least she's trying to lose weight and trying to be among those you say are better than the Western Kigs. Its just it makes me laugh when you poke fun at someone who isn't skinny, you'll know nothing on how it feels until you walk a mile in there shoes and know how it feels...I been there myself and lost a lot of weight I know how it felt to be poked fun at...

>>11002422
You know, if a person comes here and goes on whatever about kig stuff, trollish or not, you'd think she care about this type of artstyle. So this accusations about not doing anything are rather off. 4channers are audience. Audience may be angry and very off, but audience is an audience. Now, it is really very bad that the audience is off, but that doesn't give you right to be that off in accusation of your audience back. In fact, actor (except the very time when he's acting, when he has the right) doesn't accuse his audience, it doesn't give him any merit. Instead he looks into what really spooked audience anger, skips the irrelevant comments and works on the real problems. And doesn't give new reasons for audience's anger.

Of course loosing fat is long and difficult process. And of course people, who are lazy enough to hide beside the anonymous mask, will accuse players for being fat, because it's the most lazy thing they can do. Instead of trying and seeing the real problem.

>>11002422

First of all, who's poking her are the anons above, I only said what she is, which is indeed true.
Second, you can't attack your opponent in a debate. This is called ad hominem. There's no point in pointing out that i'm a NEET (and you don't know if I really am) because this doesn't change anything in my arguments.
Third, who cares about what you did in your past life? Good for you that you aren't fat anymore, at least you're healthy now.

>>11002464

I agree with you anon. The problem here is people who don't know how to react to their audience.

>>11002464
well then you make a good point about it but whats the point in poking fun at it constantly when you've clearly made your point about it?

I know she's not that good but she wants to improve. I had her as a friend before removing her due to being an ass hat at me, but she has been telling me that she wants to improve just no one has told her what she could do to improve. I have read the comments here and I do see room for improvement that she needs to do and losing weight is one of her major goals. Just a bit confused on why still taunting her.

>>11002494
>Just a bit confused on why still taunting her.
I'm really not sure what you expect. There's a person with extremely sub-standard kigurumi who comfort each other on how they're still good and avoid all criticism. That's asking for flaming on 4chan. Have you been here before?

>>11002494

People taunting him are trolling.
People saying that he is fat and he needs to lose weight are not.

Although everyone's been telling him what to improve, he acts like an ass everytime someone does.
You think that is because he does not know; it's because he doesn't want to listen to. No wonder he has been an ass to you too.

>>11002494
To keep it short: go to acting school. Probably 100% kiggers have to do it, minus may be those who either had enough rp experience or just natural enough to be ok. For others without those trivial basics acting is just boring, and no one wants to see boring acting. They can't express it right, going to non-descript categories, like "extremely" and "sub-standard", but the fact is that it's boring.

Let's say, after viewing all the material that was produced by Claire, I can't tell you what kind of girl Claire (as character) is. There's nothing to look at. And it's boring. People should have something to look at, even if it's plain character, it is still can be shown. When there's nothing to look at, people start to look at weird places, like 4chan never fails to prove.

>>11002422

Claire is trying to lose weight? Don't make me laugh, he is fatter than ever.

>>11002506
4channers are overreacting about kigurumi community being supporting enough. While the sugar heights to which oversupport went at KCS certainly are too bad, there's nothing bad in acting/roleplaying community being supportive. In fact, support is paramount help while building one's role, that's why mindless 4chan-style random accusing is so bad. On the other side, that level of support is good for starting people, for those who do their first steps, but after several months of kigging noone can be considered as such, and some amount of healthy advice could be in order. Probably those who created KCS atmosphere were afraid that allowing to accuse will lead people to disrupting atmosphere too much, but while this is mod's excuse, KCS ended up being too sugar, and as a consequence, boring. I think, that the best variant could be balance where enough praise is mixed with a bit of critique, but well, I don't think that those in charge of KCS would listen to it anyway.

>>11002543
Someone clearly can't not troll.

>>11002572
I think the main advice that he's gotten throughout this thread has been "lose weight and get a better mask". Again, I don't know what you expect.

>>11002579
That (would be) because of lack of acting school. Yeah, lazy 4chan audience can't think of anything except mask style and weight, but that doesn't mean the real reason is that.

Hey Claire.

>>11002572
>We're not as bad as the Wyutards
>But you have to understand we only have just started and are getting better
>So it's wrong to point out that we are pretty much as bad as the Wyutards.
How about just being honest with people instead of hugboxing?

>>11002577
Is it you? Seriously, if you're going to be stupid enough to reply to a troll at least put some venom in your post.

sort of on the subject, are there any good exercises for stomach or "apple belly" that won't get you ripped abs? i mean all the ones i found were exactly that but maybe thats just my googleing skills...

>>11002732
look into tai-chi

>>11002709
>Is it you? Seriously, if you're going to be stupid enough to reply to a troll at least put some venom in your post.
You know, if I liked to play kid's games, may be I would consider it.

Oh my god you are all the worst shut up and post kig.

>>11002709

That's why when I said that I wanted that anon to criticize me some people didn't understand: it's not because he's a japanophile, as it sounds, but instead because he's honest.

>>11002833

Post more Azusa pls.

>>11002840

>>11002837

That asuza is so tiny. I'd love a tiny build like that.

Must be a girl without a doubt.

>>11002964
Yeah, I'm really jealous.

>>11002964

I wonder what she thinks about the OP.

>>11001677
you'd show your work in public because despite the fact that it might not be as good as someone else's, you still are very proud of what you can do. and all the good western kigs don't say "we aren't as bad as them therefore we are good", we say "we strive to be as good as the japanese kigs, and we are close, but those wyutards are a terrible support group"

>>11002832
he's not honest, he's a weeaboo who can't tolerate anything that's not japanese. it doesn't matter how good we get, he'll still call us shit tier. that's not honesty, no matter how far "between the lines" you look.

also, bad japanese kigurumi are more common than claimed. we just choose to ignore them because it's easy. the only reason they look "better" than the west is that there's so many more of them, and they can support one another more directly by living near each other. when your only improvement input or access to other performers is purely on an online basis, quality can suffer. proof is in the texan kigs, are are all (most) comparable to the japanese kigurumi, and not bad at all

time to show off the average japanese kigs.

one of the more active japanese performers, i don't think i've ever seen anything "quality" from them. always been very average though they've been doing this for almost as long as natsuki

ah yes, let us not forget this performer. from a photography standpoint he's always got some pretty quality pictures. but a very broad chest and shoulders, and some very odd looking masks

have you ever seen this performer walking around in his videos? who taught him how to act like a girl? it's always extremely awkward looking. and they've been around for 10+ years too!

>>11003304

If you say so, then I'll believe it he's just an weaboo.

>>11003319

I agree in parts. It can be done online, it just needs acceptance of both parts.

let's not forget about TAKA either. sure he's got a few good looking masks, but he's also got a few weird looking ones. definitely not the "quality" you'd expect of a japanese performer.

he's got a unique fashion sense though, i know i find some of his outfit combinations quite interesting

>>11003442
it can be done, but compared to doing it in person, the results speak for themselves. not only do the performers themselves work directly with one another to improve performance, but they can also improve photography-wise. taking pictures for a kigurumi is way different than a normal person, or even traditional cosplay. there's barriers present for the kigurumi that photographers always have to take into account, and if they aren't used to them, quality can also suffer


also, this is all i have for now. a lot of the photos are slightly outdated since i havent' saved a lot of newer stuff, but if someone else wants to contribute to the "average" side of japan, then feel free

>>11003415

Can I kig if I have dat broad shoulders? Thanks.

On a kig, three things get my engine going like no other; super adorable mask, sexy legs wearing nylons or tights, and visible bulge.

>>11002422
Fat people should not be trying to dress up in skimpy outfits.

He doesn't get called out for being fat just because he is fat. It's because he's overweight and wears revealing outfits. It's hurl inducing. It's fine if you want to do that stuff but keep it to yourself till you're presentable.

>>11003353
source?

>>11003719
performer is gyotti http://gyotti.ddo.jp/~yuki/

A Tsukiko kig would be nice. Is someone planning to kig as her?

>>11003304
>we strive to be as good as the japanese kigs, and we are close
Say that to a Japanese kig and see if they don't laugh in your face. You aren't close, you aren't getting closer and pretending that the only problem is a few people who put in zero effort is going to keep you from ever closing the gap.

>>11003319
>the only reason they look "better" than the west is that there's so many more of them
The west has fewer people into kigurumi. That doesn't mean that they get to be judged by a different standard.
>when your only improvement input or access to other performers is purely on an online basis, quality can suffer
and it does. That's pretty much what I've been saying. You say you disagree with me then you say shit like this. It's baffling. Do you think that because someone has a disadvantage they shouldn't be held up to the same standard? By that logic, the Wyutards aren't bad because it's unfair to compare them to people who actually try.
>texan kigs
who? I'm only familiar with Haru, and I'd say he's about average. I like his outfits and he manages to appear in photos with good kigs, but his posing needs work and his mask seems strange to me. When the absolute best from one group place at about the middle of another, it's time to admit that one group isn't quite as good.

>>11003924

>Do you think that because someone has a disadvantage they shouldn't be held up to the same standard.

This i actually agree with. But I still think your a fool for blanketing everyone by virtue of them not being Japanese.

Right now the best westerners don't compare to the best japanese kigs. But that doesn't mean that can't change. Which you constantly seem to spout. I still predict some individuals do have the potential to be just as good.

>>11003924

Although I agree with the same judgment for everyone, your judgment is too personal.
At least back what you don't like in everyone else's masks.
Does Haru's mask look weird? Yes, it does, but that's because of the sculpting which is not top tier (seems a bit rough) and painting doesn't seem even across the whole mask. Was that difficult to spot the flaws with precision?

>>11003964

There's always the possibility of improvement. I agree with you anon.

>>11003924
Your logic is also flawed. "Disadvantage", the wyutards have access to as many resources as the next person. They choose poorly by choosing a wyu mask and they choose poorly when dressing themselves. They choose poorly at choosing the photos they post of themselves. I think what sets the Texan kigurumi apart is that they themselves are picky with a lot of the content they post from how they dress to how they project their characters. There are some good performers outside of Texas as well.

It's funny that the people who are mentioned as good performers are being demonized and blamed by Cody, Wyutards and the other's mentioned as bad performers as we speak. I also feel these performers are feeding off the attention of being a victim not unlike how trolls feed off reactions.

>>11003964
>But I still think your a fool for blanketing everyone by virtue of them not being Japanese.
I'm not saying that westerners are inferior kigurumi due to some racial deficiency. Where did you get that idea? In a straightforward comparison most Western kigs are inferior to even the average Japanese kigs. Why is this so hard to grasp?

>Right now the best westerners don't compare to the best japanese kigs. But that doesn't mean that can't change.
If I close my eyes and cover my ears then there is no way for me to tell which is better and which is worse. If I cast my mind far enough into an alternate future, where some gaudy miracle has removed all the barriers that keep western kigs from becoming adequate, then suddenly there was hope where before there was ordinary despair.

>>11003983

Well, then they shouldn't even care about what those people do nor victimize themselves.

But what anon is trying to explain here is the fact that he has like top tier standards, and none of the kigs outside japan are able to stand to that.
Do you want a tough question? Why there isn't anyone outside Japan doing a decent kig of an existent (non original) character? I can only remember Mirai by Haru. (By the way, I really want that mask being worn more times)

One of the reasons I haven't done my kig yet it's because I'm fricking picky at stuff and too dependable on evidence to buy things. Nobody yet was able to provide a decent answer to my questions.

>>11004000
You sound a lot like a guy who was going around whining that he couldn't order from Sigma or Mirai.

Post some picture's with your argument because I want to see more cute kigurumi pictures and less of your arguing and bitching.

>>11004009

That'd be me, and not the guy whining now. I pretty much got around with it already.

You sound a lot like a guy who was going around whining that he couldn't order from Sigma or Mirai.

Post some pictures with your argument because I want to see more cute kigurumi pictures and less of your arguing and bitching.

>>11004006
have a picture of my favorite american kigurumi of a existing character who happens to be appearing on the cover of the japanese kigurumi magazine

>>11003983
The point I was trying to make is that double standards are wrong. You don't grant one for Wyutards even if they are mentally challenged. Why would you give one to non-Wyutards?

>>11003978
>At least back what you don't like in everyone else's masks.
Was that even English?

>>11003762
It's funny you should say that. I had been thinking she was a great character to play. The static expression, and the fact that she shows all emotion through body language makes her a nearly perfect character to portray.

I had thought about commissioning her, but it would take me at least a year to get the funds.

>>11004050
Your argument is declining fast. Your only making yourself look like an ass at this point.

>>11004056

I'm sleepy as fuck.
At least back your arguments pointing out what you don't like in those masks.

>>11004031

Are you the performer? Be less obvious at least.

>>11004066
>Your argument which I didn't bother to read is probably wrong. Trying to communicate with me is a waste of your time.

>>11004066

Technically, this commentary makes he win. Instead of proving your point you focused in attacking the anon there.
At least agree with him. He believes in a certain standard, and want to judge everyone by the same standard, which I think is completely fair.

>>11004069
assuming that nobody can be a fan of a western performer and post photos of them because they genuinely like them is pretty lame dude

The point of the post that you seemed to miss was that the japanese audience do like some western performers else miharu would not be featured in the online japanese zine

>>11004079
wow your english is really weak

>>11004069
I'm not that anon, but I do enjoy Miharu.
Keep in mind, it is possible to like and promote a performer without actually being that performer.

Based on the discussions going on here, does that mean I should stop posting photos of my Kigurumi?

>>11004096
yeah else the wyubots will say you post to 4chan and ruin your reputation among both english and japanese kigurumi

>>11004080

I assumed that because of two pics of the same mask in a row.

Nice point. What does it have to deal with the discussion? It is an american performer with a japanese mask.

>>11004085

Yes, it is.

>>11004088

I know.

>>11004096

Up to you.

>>11004022
tank top, non-matching zentai and frizzy wig. That's about what I'd expect from a top tier western kig, or a below average Japanese kig.

>>11004080
Do you know what's said in the zine? Are you sure they weren't running an issue on "most hilarious western attempts at kigurumi"?

>>11004096
Why are you doing kigurumi in the first place?
If you want to get your back patted, join the forum.
If you want people to see it, post photos.
If you want to improve, give up and find something else to do.

>>11004106
your a hopeless cause anon
the photo had a american performer on the cover of a japanese magazine but my arguement is somehow invalid since it is a japanese mask when all this while you've been labeling all american performers as bad even those with japanese masks. grow the fuck up and learn how to properly argue a point. this itself proves you don't hold all performers equal if this somehow does not apply to the argument. you are still biased against american and western kigurumi performers.

>>11004115
And a badly sculpted kawaii mask with stuffed horns is any better? Oh anon, how you amuse me.

>>11004115
the ears on that mask are the wrong shape
at least illucia studios isn't a shit tier mask maker like kawaii ltd and can make a characters ears look correct

>>11004140

It's not invalid because it is an american performer wearing a japanese mask, but instead pointing that it is a western appearing in the cover of a japanese magazine.

The discussion is about judging everyone by the same standard or not. Not westerners x japanese.

>>11004132
I am doing it to gain a perspective of what it is like to be a Kigurumi. I have achieved that perspective so I would like to focus on raising the quality of my performance. The ideal goal would be Japanese standards because I believe that would be the best way to show respect to Kigurumi as a hobby and to those (the Japanese) who created it.

>>11004164
if thats the case then you should word it as western mask makers X japanese mask makers and not western performers X japanese performers