/jp/ - Otaku Culture

was gonna sleep, but fuck it, i can play some late night matches

80.244.197.155:10800
EU
rather drunk reimu-tier

is it OK if i play and torrent at the same time?

>>10975745
oh i suppose so then

>>10975740
entirely dependent on your connection and how much you're torrenting, but if you wanna be 100% safe from lag you should turn them off

>>10975740
I think you can decide if your speed is good enough for that yourself.

So the game crashes anytime any form of slowdown occurs during netplay. This is some serious bad netcode.

Before you ask yes the 3d background option is off

apparently i forget how to do all my nitori combos the minute i go online

ggs though pluot

>>10975758
I get slowdown during spellcards, and I have yet to have the game crash on me.

>>10975758
My net drops every now and then, so during netplay I sometimes get 5 second complete freezes, but it keeps going fine after that.

24.145.41.81:10800
US East
Whatever-tier Miko

>>10975736
I'm enjoying these drunk updates

>>10975740
No. Unless you've gauged your connection speed, how much upload the game uses, and adjusted your torrent client appropriately, which I seriously doubt.

>>10975736
Are you ever not drunk?

so how does hosting a game work?
can i just type random numbers for a port?

>>10975808
Only if you have literally every port on your router open.

>>10975808
Eh, if it works then it works.

>>10975808
so long as those same random numbers from your router forward the connection to the correct computer, yes.

also, no firewall to block the connection.

>>10975810
never messed with ports before...
so you get the port from the router?

WHY CAN'T I OPEN MY DAMN PORTS? WHY AM I SO RETARDED!?

>>10975820
If you have more than one computer and if you have someone savvy enough to set up the router differently then you most likely don't need to open the port, but if it's closed then you can check the other threads on how to open it.

>>10975820
Look up your router's model on google. You should be able to find step by step instructions on what to do. Generally, you'll need to open 192.168.1.1 in a new tab, and there should be an option to open individual ports somewhere.

>>10975823
>>10975837
alright thanks

173.69.194.71:10800
EC bad tier

>>10975880
no go bra

70.176.160.201:10800
US West
My connection's been acting up, so don't be surprised if I randomly drop.

>>10975736
GGs, that one match where we both got a last word was really good.
I need to start just blocking whenever I get caught in a combo instead of trying to dash out of it.

>>10975736
sorry for disconnecting so suddenly, whoever that byakuren was, but you were scaring all the shits i had out of me and I couldn't handle that for a second longer, hell i even forgot to take my obligatoery drink between my matches for most of them. GGs, I'm gonna study the replays and watch your byuakuren for future matches.

Drunken reimu is porbably done for today.

Hosting
184.175.34.153:10800
Canada (Toronto)

184.175.34.153:10800
west coast

50.133.212.119:10800
shy tier nitori
please be easy on her

>>10975784
GGs, Marisa is a broken character. Your normals and star spread are almost completely safe, huge sweeps, and can all be combo'd off.
24.145.41.81:10800 rehosted

>>10975970
I just left, too laggy.

>>10975975
Yeah, bullet cancel 5X makes Marisa way too safe in general. And then if the 5X is blocked she could just continue until she runs out of spirit.

That's the only problem I'm running into, nothing a bit of backing away can't fix I guess.

24.85.132.154:10800
west coast

>>10975936
Good games, and sorry about that happening on the round where you were winning. Rehosting if anyone is interested.

>>10975936
GGs, KOISHI STRONK. I fucking love using her so much but could never see myself maining her crazy shit. As you can see I haven't had as much time to practice as I'd like. I should really practice (and maybe set up a profile) more but it's Friday night and I felt like having some fun.

>>10975987
It's a case where I can't fathom what to do. Marisa Z is more reliable, X are all huge safe sweeps, so melee is almost impossible. The only thing I can even think of is to try VERY hard to zone you out with lasers and rings, but even that is incredibly unreliable

>>10975962
Actually, disregard that. My Internet is being horrible again tonight.

>>10976015
>>10976009

No worries, you're clearly the superior player, Koishi is just Koishi.

99.247.108.142:10800
US East v1.02
3-day experience tier

>>10976013
Most of Marisa's normals are actually pretty short range compared to some of the cast. But they're also pretty fast and safe.

The main thing I will use to come in with Marisa is 66A and 6[6]A after having some bullets (Shinto 5X spreads) for cover. Everything else is actually pretty situational. Her 5A has no range. Her 5B whiffs at a lot of places even though it has some horizontal reach to it, and 2B/8B have pretty specific hitboxes themselves. So the bulk of her neutral game seems to come down to 66A, bullets, and the occasional 5B.

So that's what you're going to need to try and find answers for. Any other Marisa players can correct me if I'm wrong here, after all it is week 1.

>>10976036
Did you put your hosting down? It automatically doesn't connect, doesn't even try.

96.231.171.118:9999
US EC

>>10976046
That's because someone already connected, although I wouldn't be surprised if he decided ragequit and complain about Reimu being broken after a few matches. You can spectate with the second option if you want.

>>10976046
He did, I'm speccing it now.

>>10976055
Decided to, even.

>>10975880
gg, your long range characters are annoying for my short range build. I'd lose my double hit danmaku if I switch to a different one, but the short range damage is higher.

>>10976055
Yes I did that, and she is. Same thing as Marisa, completely safe normals, reliable Z and huge, safe S

>>10976015
ughhh too gud, how do i into combos?

68.55.92.46:10800
US east
not very good

>>10976084
I can only really combo on Reimu. I just messed around in practice a little while until I figured out what didn't cause the practice dummy to instantly recover from attacks. Also, have we fought before when the game first came out? Your name seemed kind of familiar.

24.145.41.81:10800
US East
Annoyed at tier lists-tier Miko

>>10976103
i think so. i've messing around, but i'm not very familiar with fighting games in the first place so it's hard...

>>10975979
GGs
i like how you chose the stages

>>10976113
What's the tier list?

>>10976116
thanks..! It was fun!

>>10976121
I had fun too.

how come everyone here is from the east coast? do you all live down the street from my home??

>>10976087
sorry, maybe i improved to mediocre tier
rehosting

>>10976087
GG almost? Sorry if any of those sake fireball hits were because of lag on your end, I'm Central-East but it's usually not a problem.

>>10976036
Ggs!

>>10975979
rehosting~

>>10976087
Good game cash, I got the black screen of death on my end

66.215.205.238:10800
US West
Forever sad tier

Testing the porting deal... Tell me if this doesn't work...

Anyone know what Reimu's Leftover barrier does on her 6...uh, I don't know the keys yet. Heavy bullet, orange spinning square.

>>10976170
ah wasn't sure if it was me because people keep disconnecting. GG

>>10976087
rehosting, mediocre tier

>>10976175

i can't connect, try monkeying with the ports a bit more

68.197.130.42:7501 Easy Coast

Almost getting pressure tier

>>10976175
Did you give your computer a static IP? It didn't work for me until I did.

>>10976119
The game is 3 days old, so anything posted is just from what we know. IaMP 1.11 Yuyuko used to be S tier, then people realized she's actually garbage, and became bottom. Nothing changed, they just figured her out. Opposite happened to Marisa.

Anything posted here is 100% guaranteed to be completely wrong. The only consensus I remember either way is Reimu top, Marisa high.

>>10976209
5 days old really

>>10976209
Though to be fair, Reimu is considered top for a good reason: She can get crazy high damage with almost no effort off any hit. Flashkick is stupid good.

>>10976218
5. Right.
Not that it changes anything. But yeah.

GGs Marisa I played. Her range is sorta troubling to deal with without lv2.

>>10976050
rehosting

>>10976177

It seems to speed up her light bullets

>>10976062
gggs yeah long range was ok but when you go all invisible its more difficult, i had to get in eventually,
Also your always at an awkward angle so alot of my stuff whiffed

>>10976175
Okay, retrying this time. Let's see if this works...

66.215.205.238:10800
US West
Forever sad, again...

>>10976113
GGs last person. Reimu Z is stupidly reliable, but if that's ALL you do, you're gonna lose eventually.
24.145.41.81:10800
US East
Reimu/Marisa a shit...-tier Miko

>>10976180
gg

>>10976269
gg's, thanks for the games
taking a break for now

>>10976254
I think you might want to just join a game instead.

>>10976275
Will not give up just yet... Just one more try...

66.215.205.238:10800
US West
Last time I try this... If it doesn't work, I'm going to bed...

216.154.95.119:10800
low tier forever

>>10976302

it really isn't working

you're forwarding with your internal ip instead of your external one, right?

>>10976302
check some port forward videos, it helped me alot.

>>10976317
I dunno, I'm forwarding both internal and external with the same 10800 number.

>>10976253
GGs Whoah. Getting called to another game so I gotta cut our session short.

216.154.95.119:10800
low tier forever

>>10976302
>>10976334
go into command prompt, type ipconfig
find the number that says ipv4 address, probably 192.168.1.(number that isn't 1)

go into router (probably 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1) and tcp/udp forward whatever port you're using with that server address

is that what you did?

216.154.95.119:10800
low tier. didnt realize my ip changes after rebooting.

>>10976338
GGs. Just not my day
24.145.41.81:10800
US East

>>10976341
Wait, maybe I was hitting a wrong device... I named most of my devices with the same name, so I probably did port forward a different device by accident.

Once more...

66.215.205.238:10800
US West

>>10976355
no go

why is port forwording so hard
i cant get it to work for the life of me

Did you check your local area connection's ipv4 settings and make sure it has the same IP as the one you're forwarding? If it still doesn't work. Check to see if there's any section on your router's set-up page to configure a "Starting IP Address" or "Default IP Address". Make sure it shares the same IP address as well.

I got it working... Hell yeah!

>>10976383
What did you do?

I would host but I changed the username and password for my modem and I forgot to remember it.

>>10976395
Hold down the modem's reset button for 30 seconds, unplug it for 30 seconds and keep holding it down, then plug it back in and let go of the reset button after another 30 seconds. This should reset it to the factory default username and password. Some modems and routers only require 1 or 2 of these steps, but to be safe it's best to do all 3.

>>10976409
And you can go to routerpasswords.com to find out the default.

>>10976422

-----
deck
-----
Uc-close parasol
Rc-far parasol
Dc-down frog (actually a bunny)
Lc-front frog

Uz-bishamon
Rz-log trap
Dz-legion
Lz-lantern


----
how to play
----

Her normals are all trash. They have great range, but are horribly slow and have no priority. You WILL get ch for

trying . Getting the first hit is vital for winning through popularity, especially since this deck allows for only one

super. Buddha and Tao both ruin her bullets, so one must go.
Frogs and lantern don't disappear if you get hit, and lantern causes ch; these are your major tools for moving in

and staying out. Y is tight on block from almost every move and can be followed up with a tight parasol - learn to

hitconfirm. * Proper spacing is also a must for this character.
Legion is the better of the two supers. You lose popularity if you declare and don't use one. It's harder to combo

into but you can stick it onto the end of your blockstrings if you can't land it, and it is fast enough to punish many

things. As for pot,. a good player will turtle you out of it, and it is extremely unsafe on block.
* Lantern is also great to stick out after a blocked slow move like 6b

If you hit the opponent with the back-swing of an 8b they will get groundslammed, but Mamizou doesn't turn

around until after recovering. Someone tell tasofro to fix pls.

Me again. I can't catch any ips here fast enough, so I'll just paste my notes here. Better to have many Mamizou Masters than just one.

mamizou

S-dashing
T-full speed dash
- =delayed
all limit unless specified
all parasols are 2hit
5as must be close for the second a to combo. far 5as will be specified
bishamon must wallslam for the followups to connect
for 2b frog followups, the frog must be entered before touching the ground

corner
----

5aa8a -log trap 7a2b (2242)

far 5a2b/2b (3hits) x 3aa8a log trap (2037/2191)

5b close sol 9aa2a - down frog 5aaa (2981)

6b (2hits) front frog 9a2b - down frog 2aaa (2632)

2b bishamon aaa / aa6a far sol / aa-8a/ 8b
(2192/2346/2222+launches midscreen/1845+sends both midscreen)

Sa 6b (2hits) front frog 9aa2a bishamon (2564)
Sa 8b -log trap 8aa2b (2475)

no-limit 2b down frog aaay (2118)

midscreen
----

5aa8a -log trap 9665a2b (2242)

close Sa8b/5aa8a -log trap 9bishamon (midscreen to back against wall) (2243-2061)

5b -far sol 9665a2b down frog aaa (near corner) (2813)

5b bishamon (1555)

Sa2b/2b (3hits) x 3a8b log trap (1991/1952)

obsolete 2b bishamon sol (1943)

no-limit
Ta y far sol (1333)
far 5a 6b far sol (1187)

masters only
----
exactly midscreen Ta y far sol 9665a2b down frog aa8a (2793, 98%)
midscreen or closer Tb (5hits) far sol 92b down frog aaa (2506) 98%

>>10976422
-----
deck
-----
Uc-close parasol
Rc-far parasol
Dc-down frog (actually a bunny)
Lc-front frog

Uz-bishamon
Rz-log trap
Dz-legion
Lz-lantern


----
how to play
----

Her normals are all trash. They have great range, but are horribly slow and have no priority. You WILL get ch for trying. Getting the first hit is vital for winning through popularity, especially since this deck allows for only one super. Buggha and Tao both ruin her bullets, so one must go.
Frogs and lantern don't disappear if you get hit, and lantern causes ch; these are your major tools for moving in and staying out. Y is tight on block from almost every move and can be followed up with a tight parasol - learn to hitconfirm.* Proper spacing is also a must for this character.
Legion is the better of the two supers. You lose popularity if you declare and don't use one. It's harder to combo into but you can stick it onto the end of your blockstrings if you can't land it, and it is fast enough to punish many things. As for pot, a good player will turtle you out of it, and it is extremely unsafe on block.
If you hit the opponent with the back-swing of an 8b they will get groundslammed behind you, but Mamizou will not turn around until after recovering. Someone tell tassofro to fix pls.
* Lantern is also great to stick out after a blocked slow move like 6b

>>10976422
>>10976456
toss it in the wiki or something

Does anyone got a list of item cards and its functionality, traslated? I know only the obvious ones, such as faith increase.

>>10976488
http://shinkirou.koumakan.jp/wiki/Items

>>10975979
GGs, sorry for leaving but I really had to do something, and you appeared to be away when I left.

>>10976498
thanks

Good game, LongDong(?).

Got to love a system with there's more than one win condition that's abusable.

>>10976509
Still trying to learn how the game works.
Good games.

>>10976509
trying to win on both condition is fun. people really have actively countering each other.

>>10976516
Who the hell do you use?

>>10976516
Yeah, have you to take note of the popularity percentages. If all the games go into time, popularity basically wins you the game.

>>10976530
I used mainly Koishi and Nitori where its just safe play and counter-hits. Longdong was pretty decent on Reimu and Ichirin.

has anyone else noticed a huge fps drop playing other games after playing HM? i'm hoping theres a way to make it stop happening without rebooting my computer every time.

>>10976547
That's because in the code everything gets stored in your ram and some in the pagefile. According to the code, the japs forgot to add in there to release all data after you've closed the program. The upside is when you start it again it's much faster.

66.215.205.238:10800
US West

I'll play a couple more rounds before I sleep...

>>10976554
That's not how memory works. When the program is closed the OS will free all memory associated with it, even if the program didn't free it.

Does anyone else miss mad IaMP/Soku Reimu? I feel like her new sprites don't have as much charm or personality to them.

>>10976569
>not looking at the legs

>>10976569
I've been saying that since the day they were revealed.

It grows.

>>10976574
I really don't care about their legs...

is the english patch out yet?
If so, can someone post a link?

>>10976590
give it some time man

>>10976578
What kind of silly setup do you need for that kind of damage?

>>10976609
1 star and a CH 5B near corner with Master Spark declared.
8790 came out with a bit better execution.

>>10976623
6B*

What is better with this game?
Keyboard or controller?

>>10976623
Nice

>>10976639
keyboad man, also host so I can play you while you use it lol

>>10976656

I have seen through your ruse.

>>10976561
Good game to whoever played me.

Note self: Mirror Match Koishi is forever a stall fest for popularity. Koishi too damn cute.

>>10976670
Hm? 90% of all my koishi games end in KOs

>>10976668
I've been fine using keyboard. The inputs don't require any finesse at all.

67.177.134.237:10800
May be a bit laggy

>>10976668
>>10976693
Keyboard is perfectly fine for HM.
The only reason I ever felt the need for a controller in the SWR is because it used classic fighting game inputs, not "press 2 buttons" or "hold a direction and press a button."

>>10976782
no complex button combinations?

>>10976787
Nope. The most complex button combinations are what I said in quotes, and stringing those together into combos which are relatively short.

>>10976787
All inputs are up/down/forward/back and a button.

anyone mind telling me how to join?

a little menu translation would be nice

>>10976815

>>10976826
Please don't enable people who can't read the OP.

>>10976826
Thank you.

>>10976833
Does it matter?

http://flockdraw.com//jp/

Oldfags only.

Who's still hosting?

what if some doujin company makes a Dive kick touhou game?

>>10976854

what would they call it?

Cant install the new patch,and Ive the locale in Japanese,how can I fix it?

>>10976861
google.com

>>10976859
Wriggle Kick

>>10976861
set back to English locale, install patch, go back to Japanese locale

>>10976864
Yes, I'm sure there's going to be a lot of results on how to patch this 5 day old game.

>>10976566
Unless the program doesn't fully quit when you close it.

>>10976872
Cant do that,when I try,things such as the calendar come to normal again,but I still can read kanji in various files.

>>10976894
you're how old and you still can't read japanese?

68.55.92.46:10800
US east
mediocre tier

>>10976923

mediocre my ass. that was fun.

>>10976953
sorry, i don't even know. gg though.

>>10976958

that was me again

>>10976969
oh haha, thanks for the games. i'm gonna head to bed now anyway.

>>10976972
good choice of picture. night

24.145.41.81:10800
US East
Drinking-tier Miko

>>10976978
... i need practice before doing that again!
miko's cape is awesome

Every time I get to any ip,the game crashes. "the instruction at 0x referenced memory at 0x the memory could not be read"

192.168.9.2:10800
(US) South
ehhh tier Ichirin

>>10977152
Nice IP.

>>10977152
Go type "ip" into google.

>>10977156
What do you mean?

>>10977168
...
correction (166.205.67.29)

>>10977169
that's your router's internal ip. it might work on lan at most.

>>10977169
Basically, an ip address that starts with 192 is in your local network, as the packets need to be redirected from your router to your computer. What we really need is your global address, which can easily be known through Google. That being said, if you're unfamiliar with networking such that you can't get the correct IP, then you probably don't have your ports forwarded correctly and firewall off.

Thanks for this information.
I have never tried to host before. (obviously)

>>10977188
It's fine, most people wouldn't know about it unless they play peer-to-peer games often.

>>10977188
If you can get your ports forwarded correctly, then we can join your games. Find the manual for your router, and then set up a virtual server and direct all packets from 10800 to your local address. You can find your local address by typing ipconfig in the console. Finally, make sure to disable windows firewall on your computer. If this sounds like a lot of work, it is, and most people just wait to pounce on an IP in this thread.

>>10976978
Good games, your Miko is getting better!

Futo is a lot of fun.

>>10977216
GGs, though I really hate Futo and most of the cast, honestly.

>>10977217
How come?

>>10977232
For Futo and Koishi I feel like I have to be overly aggressive to make up for their naturally high popularity and get punished for it.
For Reimu and Marisa I feel like all my moves are inferior except for the laser, so It's a constant struggle. Probably the same for Nitori, but I haven't faced many.

>>10977236
No hate for Ichirin?

>>10977244
Nah. Her normals are big, but slow. I feel like I can at least punish them, while Reimu/Marisa normals are almost totally safe.
It might just be player differences, but that's the impression I get

107.8.242.92:10800
US Midwest

71.37.14.60:10800

us west

still not entirely sure what i'm doing but i hope i can land some combos this time!

>>10977251
GGs. Koishi wins by doing nothing.

>>10977341
Pretty much. GGs

>>10977251
Rehosting

Good games, but that delay was just too ridiculous to deal with.

>>10977281

ggs ghost, i just discovered i'm scared to death of marisa

>>10977358
That was actually my first time fighting a Nitori. Also, was all of that slowdown because of your computer, or our connection? We live in the same general area as each other.

>>10977363

i guess it was just the connection, i don't have anything else running here. then again, the delay seemed about the same as the other matches i've had, so maybe my internet is just shit

regardless, rehosting at 71.37.14.60:10800

I keep putting off how to learn this game /jp/. How is it? I was initially kind of turned off by how.. I don't know, passive it seems. It feels like you're moving in oatmeal. I guess it makes footsies more important, but somehow it feels even more sluggish and slow paced than UNL, and that is fucking saying something

tldr is it fun

pls respond

>>10977390
It's okay. I liked Soku more.

>>10977390
I don't like it. The movement is 24/7 river mist, and popularity forces you to be hyper aggressive if you're losing. This takes away from the footsie game everything seems to be built around. I still play it because all my Soku buddies are playing it...

>>10977390
It's really bad. You're not missing anything by not playing it.

>>10977414
I'm honestly just hoping that once this game starts to die down again people might want to start going back to Soku.

>>10977426
I'd rather have dumbass popularity than dumbass border escapes.
24.145.41.81:10800
US East

>>10975979
hostin

>>10977426

I'm still annoyed how my friend managed to improve a lot faster at Soku than I did so HM is all that's left. I really hope it isn't that bad, Miko seemed fun.

>>10977429
Speaking of stupid mechanics, can Tasofro get one right? Weather, border escapes and popularity are some of the dumbest things I've ever seen in a fighting game.

>>10977429
What was wrong with border escapes? In this game, once a character like Nitori has you in the corner you just have to sit there holding left for 15 seconds. I honestly just can't stand how slow paced HM is compared to Soku, and the popularity system is completely broken.

>>10977426
Soku died for me when I couldn't find people to play against anymore. I could host Soku games on /jp/ all day and noone would join.

>>10977440
Well, I kind of liked border escapes because they were the only way to escape some ridiculous strings. Weather, not so much. But it is terrifying to fight someone who deliberately manipulates weather against you.

>>10977443
irc never died, sure there are slower times too but overall it has been more or less alive

>>10977446
What I want to know is why no one ever came out with a 3rd party patch to remove the weather system, or if that's too hard, make the weather patterns not affect anything. No one liked it.

>>10977440
I have no problem with popularity and I main ichirin, I'm ok with the fact that I have to be aggressive with an offensive character even if I have a life lead.

>>10977441
>>10977446
You can push-block(advancing guard, whatever) in HM, which is much easier to pull off than border escapes to get out of a corner.
>>10977449
I can only hope there will be a patch to at least add the option to disable popularity wins.
>>10977451
Having the player with the least health at the end a match was enough to incite aggression Not popularity, which some characters can passively or easily accrue over other characters by doing almost nothing

>>10977458
I'm rather curious as to how some people gain "passively by almost doing nothing" considering the way every character gets popularity is the same, only exception is Miko who has a popularity gaining skill which is not that potent and can backfire

Now don't get me wrong, I do believe there are things wrong with the popularity system, but I'm just intrested in the logic behind that statement

>>10977440
Popularity and weather are only in the game because ZUN's story demanded it. Blame him, not Tasofro.

ggs cat

i really have no idea what to do against marisa, her normals are 2good

>>10977466
I don't even know the reason why, by Koishi and Futo have a tendency to get a huge amount of popularity just by playing normally, but their playstyle is either countering or evasion.
I play Miko, but without the silly popularity-gain spell.
>>10977470
Well they're silly mechanics either way.

>>10977443

You should migrate to the #hisouten channel. That's what I did and I got plenty of people to come kick my ass

I'm sort of waiting for the HM-craze to die down now, though. Not many games going on while everyone's playing the new game..

>>10977466
I'm not whoah, but some characters are just outgunned/outspeeded by someone like Nitori, and will get ruined in popularity for blocking while they wait for an opening.

>>10977479
Koishi and Futo score a shitload of counterhits just by playing normally. Enough of those and your popularity will be through the roof.

99.251.76.103:10800
Easy Coast
Silly Marisa tier

>>10977458
yes, but with popularity it's not necessary to design all characters with ways to be aggressive and you can have pure defensive characters like miko, koishi and to some extent futo.
By forcing the offensive character to stay on the offence the game doesn't devolve into sitting game like SFxT where nobody wants to lose the lead and the matches are boring as fuck.

>>10977466
That's not a problem with Koishi or Futo, that's a problem with you running into their moves and getting counter hit.

>>10977479
That's not a problem with Koishi or Futo, that's a problem with you running into their moves and getting counter hit.

>>10977479
Well for a basic rundown on what affects popularity.
Doing combos that deal 2k+ damage or ones that limit gives popularity.
Counterhitting an opponent gives you popularity and getting counterhit causes you to lose popularity
First hit of the round gives popularity
Declaring causes you to gain and opponent to lose popularity and letting the timer run out without using the spell makes you lose popularity.
Moving forwards and using attacks makes you gain some popularity, while blocking or holding back a lot will lose some popularity.

Now think on this and you can try to realize why it seems some characters get more popularity on you.
Oh, and when the gray are of the popularity bars is filled, all pop changes seem to double

>>10977499

Or Typhoon against a losing character

It's so fucking lame when some faggot ceiling hugs as much as possible while you just try to get a stray hit on him during Typhoon

And then you have to *be* that faggot because you're fighting Utsuho and she'll wipe out your lifebar in three seconds flat if you don't

>>10977499
Well, I don't think anyone enjoys games ending by time out. Instead of a popularity mechanic, I would balance the game around giving the player more offensive options, like simpler guard breaks or command throws.

>>10977514
>that's a problem with you running into their moves and getting counter hit.
fucking nitori 2B is the size of a fucking bus fuck

>>10977498
oh look. Marisa is a broken character

>>10977565
I take it you lost?

>>10977581

In fairness I've heard the same thing since the demo was leaked back when it was just Reimu, Ichirin, and Marisa

>>10977581
Of course, but more like there's nothing Miko can do against Marisa's massive, sweepings normals and A

>>10976202
Rehosting

>>10977589
You're just getting hit by 66A and 6[6]A mostly.

>>10977498
Rehosting.

Could anyone try and connect to test?
78.96.150.119:10800

>>10977589
Have you ever considered that your problem might be that you are bad and not that every single character in the game except yours is broken

>>10977600
Every Marisa melee attack is reliable, safe, and sweeping, and her A is the same. Doesn't matter what I happened to get hit by.

>>10977611
I've considered that, and it's not true. Marisa and Reimu are obviously high tier and easy, though I have a personal annoyance with Koishi and Futo.

>>10977611
Don't tell him, observing a textbook scrub like this has been enjoyable.

>>10977618
That's half the cast.

>>10977604
Thanks. Now I have absolutely no idea when and why it works.
I started by setting a static internal ip, but people couldn't connect. Now I left it as the default one I got within the network, and it just works every other day.

>>10977618
maybe you should start whoring that popularity or switch characters to a more aggressive one

>>10977638
No thanks. I play characters I like, not characters that are blatantly overpowered.

>>10977638

Can wild warrior Miko actually work? I'm interested in a high offense style but from what I hear she's pretty defensive.

>>10977647
well, the you should force them to take risks by getting ahead in popularity

>>10977647
Your character is just underpowered. Play her or don't, but don't whine about it.

>>10977652
Definitely, as long as you don't play badly enough to get blue caped.

>>10977647
But do you really like Miko? You sure seem to complain about how terrible you think she is compared to everyone else in every post you make. It sounds like you aren't having any fun, unless you actually like picking things you think suck so you can talk about how broken everything else is.
Additionally, please don't whine about tiers/OP characters. It's 5 days in. Tier lists and matchup charts assume both players are playing at optimal efficiency. Competitive balance assumes both players are playing at optimal efficiency. You are not playing your character to her full potential, and neither is anyone else yet. Simple effective characters almost always start off on everyone's whiny shitlist and end up mid tier a couple months into a game's life.

Why is my matches always cancelled.. ;__;

202.156.99.122
"still new" tier

>>10977657

I see. I'm very melee oriented and aggressive player but I didn't have too much interest in the Buddhists. I was also a bit worried by the Nitori Glove and the Futornado since they seem to have decent range and great for punishing the reckless.

>>10977654
That's impossible.
>>10977655
I'm "whining" because they OBVIOUSLY have an advantage in every way.
>>10977659
I'm just stating the obvious and my own prejudice for now. Reimu and Marisa are top tier, and no one has shown any evidence otherwise.

>>10977665
>I'm "whining" because they OBVIOUSLY have an advantage in every way.
Yes, obviously you wouldn't be whining if you didn't have some sort of reason for it. That doesn't change the fact that you are whining, no quotes required. Don't join a Marisa game if you don't want to play against Marisas.

>>10977664
If you're worried about those, Miko's ranged attacks are good enough to force the other player to be aggressive unless you're using an unmodified buddhist deck.
Even if you are playing with that deck, her ranged attacks still probably outrange the glove and tornado but it's a lot riskier.

>>10977665
They have the advantage in every way "because you're picking Miko."
At that level it's your fault for picking her. If playing Miko is making you lose because she's just so terrible, you lose your right to complain about it.
You are making the conscious decision to play a character that is weaker than others. That's fine. Whining about characters that are stronger than the character that -you are picking- is not.

>>10977672
But complaining about your character is an integral part of the Touhou fighter community.

The Hisoutensoku community would simply be incomplete with the buckets of Alice salt and tears we love so much.

202.156.99.122
singapore
v 1.02
idk what im even doing tier

>>10977667
>don't join a Marisa game
I mostly host and don't discriminate by character.
>>10977672
No shit I'm making a conscious decision to play a character I like, which happens to be "worse" as far as anyone is concerned.
If no one complained or brought up inconsistencies, then what the fuck would be the point of saying anything about the game besides combos of the best 3 characters?

>>10977657
Speaking of capes, I always find myself fucking up and missing the first hit leaving me with a purple cape for a significant portion of at least the first round, are there any tips as to how to increase your cape level? I can play with purple, but I constantly try to confirm into combos that involve red cape rings out of habit and get punished when purple ones don't connect.

>>10977687
You could discover ways for your character to better deal with the hated terrorist nazi hatemachine top tier characters and share them with others.
I say "you could" in a hypothetical sense that doesn't actually address you specifically, of course. I can't imagine you're capable.
Nevertheless, tech for all characters is always something anyone who cares about improving would want to discuss, because people will always want to play one character or another regardless of their relative strength, and having that knowledge available makes easing into the game and not turning into a saltmine like you much smoother.
>don't discriminate by character.
pfffhahah.

>>10977688
Build up a lot of combos that don't use the ring. Landing counter hits or successfully pulling off a limit combo are good ways to get the popularity boost to red cape.

>>10977701
You could also try declaring a spellcard, the 5% might push you over the edge and get you out of pruple.

>>10977705
ok

80.244.197.155:10800
EU
hungover reimu tier

How do you play netplay or host?
Do I just search my ip on google and post? ;w;
what is WAN and LAN?

>>10977746
sorry miko guy, that was a little too laggy for me, fells a little dirty to play a flashkick reimu versus a miko with all that slowdown, maybe if there ever is a rollback client made, gg anyways!

hungover reimu rehosting

>>10977762
yeah, a bit laggy.

>>10977767
24.145.41.81:10800
US East

202.156.99.122:10800
low tier

DA LAGGG
ITS DA LAGG I TELL YOU ;w;

>>10977773
>>10977790
24.145.41.81:10800
US East
pretty sure we lagged out twice. Hosting either way.

91.152.90.229:10800
Finland
Tunnel vision tier
Connection testing

>>10977746
man what even is with the lag today, i'm just gonna assume it's my internet acting up, gg anyways them youkai busters~

hungover reimu is done for now

>>10977828
I assume the first guy had a different version since the game wouldn't start.
Could the second person tell me where they're from, so I can sort of gauge what caused lag that bad
Still looking for test subjects.

btw i use v1.02

Hi! I'm the Reimu you fought haha and also the first one which wouldn't start.otz
I changed the profile to see if it would help since it wouldnt start at first.
I'm from Singapore btw

>>10975725
Anyone able to read what's on that seal there?

91.58.178.199:10800 Eu
Fighting the system tier

>>10977908
>>10977912
That explains the lag at least. Maybe the first game was just taking its time to start, but who knows.

>>10977913
I think it says something about pleasure, and inside.

92.18.99.28:10800 EU
Kind of okay Miko and Ichirin.

>>10977945
Can't connect

>>10977949
Weird, people can usually connect to me fine.

Patchouli, she wouldn't actually bring back a lot of practice should let me ask you a long time time now (even just flipping burgers for a reply. For now though I still don't see whats so weird about seducing cute /jp/sie boys?

GG Storgeist, I'm no match for your combos.
Where are you from anyway?

>>10977988
GGs, I would have lost, if not for these comboes.
Yesterday I played some IamP veteran who destroyed me with his nitori 15 sec comboes. I on the other hand only learned the basic comboes from the wiki. It is really helpfull.
Conncection was very nice, me hosting from europe/germany.
>>10977915
rehostan, apparently basic combo tier

>>10978006
Desynced, sorry, my internet is awful.

>>10978006
did you get a disconnect or did you leave?
>>10977915
rehosting

>>10978006
Nitori's combos are simply like that in general.

>>10978030
GG, sorry though, I though it might not be so bag lag wise but it was a bit slow after all.

24.145.41.81:10800
US East
very drunk-tier Miko

>>10978061
I don't understand how people pull those combos off, I can barely figure out limit combos with her, and the ones I do barely reach 2k damage.

>>10978078
Good fighting game fundamentals, years of playing Melty Blood and IaMP. Of course, the best Marisa whom of which is also the best stg player in NA still isn't sharing any of his replays.

Thank you, competitive American community.

>>10978085
I just seem to have issues with the basics for Nitori combo, I can't figure out what things link properly.
Well, I just checked and it looks like the Japanese wiki actually has Nitori combos now, so I should be able to at least clear that hurdle and learn to play her a bit better.

Where can I find a guide for combos? I'm trying to main Marisa.

>>10978096
its on the wiki,
http://shinkirou.koumakan.jp/wiki/Touhou_Shinkirou

>>10977828
GGs HeroOfThePeople. I got used to how Ichirin plays a bit during those.

>>10978144
ggs, everytime I got hit by overhead fist when all I tried to do was graze I died a little inside.

You play really reckless though, quite fine for Marisa I guess but not that healthy for Ichirin, well dunno if I should be saying anything since I couldn't get through it but still.

>>10976202
Hosting.

Thumb hurts like hell tier

>>10978156
I've only been playing Marisa and this was my first time playing Ichirin outside practice, so I'll have to get used to a more conservative style. Marisa's normals are so safe your core gameplay becomes a mess.

>>10978170
I do wish I could press buttons as good as you do though, all my cancels are always so late, it'll take me a while to get used to the idea that meleewhiffs can be cancelled

Do you have to restart the client after every match PC? Anyways GGs.

>>10978159
Hosting

>>10978228
Yea, not sure why it's acting all buggy, GGs though.

So they need to be the games you both Afghanistan and each day and April's Fools game.

>>10977687
Hey, did you quoting, citizen?

>>10978228
Kagerou followed up having Luca is kurumi and don't know it. It'd be set it sit down I'll get really are more circles there.

My net drops though, I don't require spoonfeeding.

>>10978236
Um, could you try again please? really didn't catch that.

>>10978244
So we know posting these games seriously.

Remember when is just like Kagerou is more like other is one of them.

I did port you're gonna head is 12.3 you while inside a long does shoot at the code locally according to yuropoor scum.

What's up with this game?
Sometimes I turn it on and it lags like hell. Then when I try it again it runs flawlessly.
How do I even?

It crashed at the last boss.

>Don't give a shit about any new character in this game
>"Fuck it, I'll just play Reimu and Marisa."
>Thread is filled with bitching and moaning about Reimu/Marisa being OP

Sigh. Oh well.

>>10978073
GGs, I'M VERY DRUNK!
Done for the day

>>10978248
Are you from those weird isolated countries where everyone has a weird accent? You talk like hell.

>>10978262
I think you were getting more drunk each match.

>>10978264
Yeah, sorry to take up to another school was back Akari made any file by the map left with you count in moral deleima.

>>10978265
Probably. It was a nightmare as time went on, GGs anyway, maybe I'll see you tomorrow Hina!

>>10978268
Oh that's explains everything since back to school the dilemma on the round phagocytized characters of nights.

>>10978228
Oh man, I'm physically tired after that.
Thanks for practicing against me, I really need something like that if I'm going to get any better at the game.

Does this game has bombs or any kind of special attack like the last ones? How do I use it?

/jp/, when hosting with a dynamic IP, sometimes people can connect but then the next day on a different IP they can't.
I have 10800 forwarded, anyone have any ideas what's wrong?

>>10978338
haha, you're welcome but you kept me on my toes. GGs.

>>10978344
There's the talisman that looks like the bomb from soku. Not entirely sure how useful it is because I haven't played much of this, but I'm assuming that it works the same way.

>>10978346
thats normal, unless you set up a static ip.

>>10978346
type "ip" into google and copy it each time

68.55.92.46:10800
USE
sorta pretty good (?) tier

oh we're past bump limit
how unfortunate

>>10976456
But people will just turtle you out of any super regardless if possible. Plus you can combo into hot spring without declaring it before the combo. You can't do that with demon parade.
You can't discount hot spring super because "oh well people will turtle you out of it for that.

>>10978506
Adding to this; teleport comboed into hotspring is just as good for punishing big whiffs as demon parade is. It's what I use for punishing whiffed supers.

203.116.45.7:10800
Starting tier

>>10978391
After I set up a static IP, how do I know what IP I need to post for people to connect to me? It doesn't look like my external IP changed since last time and it still doesn't work.
I just followed everything here http://portforward.com/networking/static-win7.htm.. Did I fuck something up?

>>10978517
>>10978506
Plus, you can't rely on your opponent to whiff something big to place value on a super. A good opponent won't be whiffing their supers on you, that's the point. At that point you should be taking whatever is easiest to combo into/does the most damage, which hotspring takes over demon parade by a large margin

>>10978520
https://www.google.ca/search?q=whats+my+ip&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

google can show it

>>10978529
Yeah, that's the one I used and it's the same as before I tried to set up a static IP and it still doesn't work.

>>10978484
sorry, a bit too laggy.

Played as Koishi just now against a Byakuren.
why does the match always end after a round? :/
or was it ended?

>>10978533
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp-R-eHiQco

I personally didnt make a static ip. but i did follow this video. Make sure the ip you put in the router settings is the Ipv4 thing.

>>10978533
this helped me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFHVeWNP9Sk

>>10978540
>>10978552
Everything should be fine but the last person I tried couldn't connect.
If anyone wants to try, it's
88.105.19.190:10800.

>>10977828
Rehosting

>>10978573
not working for me.

>>10978621
I gave up since I thought nobody was trying and reset my router. Try again: 88.105.17.125:10800

>>10978626
not working.

>>10978620
gg. you got crazy controls.

>>10978679
GGs. Playing with lag can be interesting.

>>10978484
hosting again

216.154.95.119:10800
not so good tier.

>>10978686
gg, sorry it was pretty laggy for me

>>10978702
woops, pressed the wrong button.

>>10978620
Pretty magnificent lag. Where are you connecting from?

Hosting
184.175.34.153:10800
Canada (Toronto)

GG, Aisu. I think this game got slow mode on. Nice Blazing Finish!

>>10978922
haha yes it is on slow mode for me on network all the time ;w;
maybe it's because i'm in singapore.otz
GG! first time i played complete matches. :)

>>10978939
I dont mind slow mode. Will play again.

>>10978952
hahha when? ;w;

184.163.238.244:10800, Canada East
Trying out new control setup
"have I upgraded from shit to trash yet?" tier.

>>10978921
I've had enough Futo for one day.

>>10979258
Haha that's fine. GGs

>>10979128

GGs, was my first time playing against someone else. Was fun even though I got beat pretty bad every time.

Also sorry about not moving that first Marisa match, somone was at my door.

Where are the east coast hosts?

>>10979368
Probably the east coast.

>>10979342
Thanks for playing. It was closer than you say, you won once and got close a few more times.

That character looks a bit confusing to play. I guess she's inspired from Alice.

>>10979381
Why aren't they hosting?

>>10979393
Because it's the weekend and they're outside socializing with other people.

68.50.128.123:10800
getting real tired of /jp/'s newcomer shit tier
US East

So, does that five plate Futo corner combo on the wiki work anymore? I can't seem to land the 5y with Buddhist Futo.