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No, too copyright. The Lovecraft estate still has rights to it.

What creatures from the Cthulhu Mythos would fit for Touhou?

>>10974924
Pretty much any of them.

>>10974924
Shub-Niggurath is apparently female so that could work.

>>10974915
Cthulhu is too Western and Zun hates us.

>>10974934
I only know the bigger ones and they don't sound like they would really fit.

>>10974924
Great Race of Yith via mind transference into youkai bodies.

>>10974938
Don't be silly, there is already plenty of western creatures in Touhou.

>>10974942
No, not really.

>>10974936
Is that the thing that pops out electric yetis and spider monsters that shoot exploding blobs?

What the fuck do people even see on Lovecraft's works?

>>10974952
No.

>>10974947
Nevermind that the latest game has a werewolf and a mermaid in it.

>>10974958
iridescent slime of some nameless alien color out of space?

>>10974940
All that ZUN needs to do is pull a Saya and make Lovecraft's work become little girls.

>>10974958
Lovecraft is or at least was good source material for fiction writers and other artists.

>>10974967
Okay, good argument.

I still don't know what makes Re/b/b/it and other trendy atheist hipsters go apeshit over spaghetti monsters, though.

>>10974966
lol boobs

>>10974971
It's because he can use five or six adjectives to describe something all in a row and still not describe anything.

>>10974970
Honorary Touhou.

>>10974970
Because Nyaruko-san did that so well.

>>10974971
No idea either, but lovecraft has been a big enough deal for cult movies since waaaaay before suckedit even registered their domain name.

>>10974971
What Reddit has to do with this?
Besides the Flying Spaghetti Monster was a thing before it even existed.

>>10974958
It's best to read him as a teenager, I think. His stories have a better way of taking hold of your imagination then. Most people that like him probably read him when they were younger. If you read him at the right time his stories can really have an effect on you.

I wish ZUN would make a Touhou version of Black Annis. This story used to seriously freak me out, as I live in the area of Dane Hills. I remember when we went looking for Black Annis' Bower, and we found a large hole in a hillside and convinced ourselves she was at the entrance looking at us, its funny we seriously believed it despite there being nothing there. It bring tears shivers to me just thinking about it.

But I think Black Annis would make a cool concept for a Touhou provided ZUN prettied her up a bit. She has iron claws, her spellcards could be similar to Sakuya's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Annis

>>10974986
Oh that's what you were talking about, okay. Well take your meme back, please, we aren't interested.

>>10974989
My point being that his stories require work on your end, an active imagination to supply the details to things that he purposefully leaves unsubscribed, or to try to flesh out things he barely mentioned. I remember back when I read his works I was really fascinated by this part in The Call of Cthulhu where he talks about undying leaders of the cult in the mountains of China. He doesn't go into any detail about it but I was able to toy around with the idea and get more out of it. It makes his stories more real.

>>10974964
Those are neither werewolf nor mermaid you fucking secondary. One of them is a honshu wolf youkai and the other is a ningyo. And no, the latter is not translated as mermaid.

There are only vampires and hobgoblins which are strictly Western in that form in Gensokyo.

>>10975007
I'm sorry

>>10975007
Thank you for your sharing your expertise with us mortals, Lord Weeb.

Dreams in the Witch's House, by H.P. Lovedude

>>10975007
Her title is literally "The Bamboo Forest's Werewolf."

>>10974998

The weird thing about Black Annis is that the area she haunted is now built upon, which means that any of us could be living right on top what used to be her Bower. It could be right under your basement...

>>10975007
You have 30 seconds to explain how a ningyo isn't a mermaid.

>>10974938
It’s not like the name TSA was chosen because of its east-meets-west connotations or anything.

>>10975007
She’s a werewolf you dweeb.
Werewolves are youkai because TL note 妖怪 means monster and not Japanese mythical being.

>>10975037

Because its a Ningyo, not a Mermaid. And every bodies missing the point, the point is that these character have analogies in both Western and Eastern legend, thus making them inspired by both.

>>10975036

Holy shit I don't know who she is and that sent shivers down my spine.

>>10975037
It's a creature rooted in Japanese folklore. Read up on it.

Too cliche. I'm tired of hearing about lovecraft...

>>10975043
No she is not, secondary.
She is a honshu wolf which lived long enough to become a youkai.

>>10975047
The Japanese version has a monkey's head with teeth like a fish. The Touhou version is a mermaid.

>>10975056
And I suppose the only valid translation of mermaid into Japanese is マーメイド, and everybody who ever translated it 人魚 (lit: human fish) was just wrong.

Kuuko is a touhou.

>>10975064
Her title is literally "The Bamboo Forest's Werewolf."

>>10975066
Yes, now look up how kappa are supposed to look like.

She is a creature from Japanese folklore and not Greek no matter how many times you repeat this.

>>10975079

Hurr.

>>10975076
Exactly. ZUN only uses mythology superficially, so it might as well be a mermaid. Also, mermaid is from Old English, not Greek.

>>10975084
I mean Middle English.

I bet this is going to be one of those astoundingly dumb arguments where we decide that the four words mermaid, ningyo, 人魚, and マーメイド and actually have four unique meanings.

>>10975066

There's so many versions of a mermaid, its impossible to know which one ZUN going for. The mermaid ZUN was thinking of definitely wasn't a British one, because traditionally in British legends mermaids grow up to 2000 ft in length. He's likely fused them all together, and Touhou-ified it. But the principle is that mermaids exist in eastern legend, and that's why ZUN chose them, no matter what form he gave them.

>>10975084
She has a Japanese name and lives in Gensokyo. So we can safely assume she is a ningyo. Western creatures don't end up there unless Yukari wants them to.

He is very specific in parts where nobody bothers to look.

what if lovecraft lived in gensokyo

All this talk of myths and legends always depresses me, because it makes you realise that our world really is so boring we have to make shit up to make it more interesting. It makes sad that mermaids and giants and Yokai never existed, Carl Sagan be damned.

>>10975130
He would probably get eaten by a youkai, he was kinda goofy and feeble during his lifetime.

>>10975094
Which reminds me of an earlier thread.

Fox [en]: A fox.
Kitsune [en]: A Japanese mythological fox.
狐 (kitsune) [jp]: A fox.
妖狐 (youko) [jp]: A mythological fox.
妖狐 (yaohu) [cn]: A mythological fox.
狐狸精 (hulijing) [cn]: A mythological fox.
Hulijing [en]: A Chinese mythological fox.
九尾 (kyuubi) [jp]: Nine tails. Often used to refer to a nine-tailed mythological fox.
九尾 (jiuwei) [cn]: The pokemon Ninetales.
九尾狐 (pronounced jiuweihu) [cn]: A nine-tailed mythological fox.

>>10975094
Be the first to decide which is going to be used by adding it to the wiki

>>10975129
I get that feeling everytime I see the Neverending Story.

>>10975129

People didn't invent this shit to make their lives interesting, most of them genuinely believed. Most myths and legends you can trace back to the brains ability to see something that isn't there when in fear. You know you would feel unnerved and frightened if you were lost in a forest you were told a ghost haunted at midnight, even though you know ghosts don't exist, and your mind would make you hear, see and distort things that aren't there or just minor instances like a mouse scuttling along? Now imagine you're a farmer living on his own in the 13th century in a hazy moor of something, mind already filled with scary shit he heard as a child, with no rationality to combat it, and you look out of your window in the night and see a black shape running across your field. What would you think? Of course it could be a black dog, but you already know this area is where Old John was murdered and that figure looks strangely beastly in the night.... No, it must be Old John reincarnated as monstrous bear!

>>10975129
>our world really is so boring we have to make shit up to make it more interesting
F
See me after class

>>10975145
In summary, Ran is a pokemon.

>>10975158
Yeah, that's pretty much it.

>>10975157
lel we're made of stardust so cool xD

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>>10975205
>>10976838
bungholes, both of you

>>10975158
Actually sums up their relationship pretty well.

Why are there so many westaboos lurking /jp/?s

>>10978649

I personally think both the east and west have some amazing mythology, though I attribute that to loving mythology and folktales in general. I love stories.