/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Dat jpeg quality.

Nope.
In fact, I have seen that the trigger discipline and other such things are rather good in Touhou fanart in general.

>>10961015
Who needs shoulder support with a fucking pistol?

>trigger discipline
>trigger discipline
>trigger discipline
>trigger discipline
>trigger discipline


I see this all the time on any picture or video comment in the internet where a gun is used. Why do nogunz want to sound like experts so badly? Just keep your fucking mouths shut.

>>10961015

>Stechkin

What is this, are we back in the fucking Cold War or something?

>>10961023
People who want to be able to hit targets more than 50 yards away without kneeling because they're wearing a dress? Legitimately have no clue.

>>10960990
moon discipline.

>>10961023
Perhaps she can't afford a rifle (although I doubt it).
More likely is she wants more accuracy, but retaining the portability of a pistol.

>Russians and Americans

>>10961081

Then the bitch needs to buy a C.96 and at least roll out with some fucking style.

>>10961092
pretty much >/jp/

>>10961097
Just like the Spy from TF2!

>>10961109

>Cirno
>slavshit

Why do you do this

>>10961058
Chill dude. I found this on 4scrape and it appealed to me saying "Postith me on /jp/, for they shall getith a kick out of it for the lolz". And what do you know here I am in the thread I made. Touhou and guns goes hand in hand with it being a semi shooter, so plenty to post and talk about with japeeasies

Touhous wouldn't wield guns. Kuso thread.

>>10961160
That's debatable.

>>10961160

The samurai wielded guns.

>>10961128
2hus with guns don't really make sense. I mean, why the heck should they carry guns if they can just shoot danmaku anyway? And who even brings all the guns to Gensokyo?
But they still look good I guess.

>>10961172
This.
Picture for proof.

>>10961177
Danmaku hurts you

Guns kill you

>>10961203
Touhous wouldn't kill.

>>10961208
Eirin has killed.

Kaguya has killed.

No doubt Yukari has killed.

Alice has killed.

Etc. etc.

>>10961177
They have to weild guns because the Emishi humans are immune ti touhou and yokai magic in gensokyo through their purification rituals and prayers. Touhou have to take up mortal weapons.

Is that a good enough reason my main man? I am sure there are plenty of other fans out there who could come up with such plot fitting story arches and ideas in touhou. It's all cool though. It bothers me when I see mecha touhou.

>>10961211
NO WAY!

>>10961213
Reisen is trained with guns so it's probably a cool idea to use it in addition to her magic.

Guns are for bullies. No bullying allowed in /jp/!

>>10961225
Hah hah I think you're right!

>>10960990
>Where is her hat light?
Rabbits have better low-light vision than humans.

>>10961128
>a semi shooter
How is Touhou only a semi shooter?

>>10961203
Danmaku is equally capable of killing, or even bringing down planes and war machines. The evidence is in Kioh Gyoku, where Yuuka does just that.
The spellcard rules are all in Gensokyo that preclude killing with danmaku, or with fists for that matter.

gun bunny

Guns are such a shit hobby

>>10961299
HELL a lot more useful than others though.

>>10961299
Less of a hobby and more of a precaution. Modern society allows for no such luxuries as prolongued peace.

Allow me to remind you that the world gets one big war every 100 years. Hell, we had 2 last century.

>>10961310
A gun isn't going to protect you from a nuclear attack, so why bother?

>>10961324
Don't try to reason with gun enthusiast. They just want to mentally masturbate with their gun and the false sense of power it gives.

>>10961058
Go back to /k/, man. They don't know any better.

I see many pictures of 2hus using guns

But not many pictures of 2hus using plowshares

Fanartists are not a peace loving lot

>>10961250
>drawing conclusions about Touhou from Seihou

Still, it seems evident that a youkai's power and ability would allow it to crank up their bullets to destructive levels.

>>10961310
In the event of war, what exactly will your personal gun collection allow you to accomplish? Will your marksmanship allow you to survive longer on the front lines?

>>10961419
duh? are you saying its safer to be on the front lines without a gun?

>>10961434
But the army supplies guns to front-line soldiers.

>>10961419
Remember Nanking massacre? How about the russian rape spree?

I cannot, for the life of me, allow such things to happen in my country. I would rather make my last stand than bow down and submit. Don't think that it cannot happen.

>>10961445
whos going to live longer, a person who is new with a gun or has experience with one

>>10961445
>>10961453
your also assuming you'll be siding with the army
>ask the jews in ww2 how that feels

>>10961447
Land invasions on the U.S. are somewhere between impractical and impossible due to various geography that inhibits supply lines and due to the U.S. having the biggest and most powerful navy ever to get through.

Anything that gets past that wouldn't be slowed down by anything you could legally own or even by most of the things you could illegally own.

>>10961023
Try firing an automatic pistol with any semblance of accuracy without using a shoulder stock.

>>10961453
U.S. military training is extremely effective for this sort of thing.

>>10961458
Godwin's law.

>>10961478
>assuming you'll be siding with the U.S. military

>>10961347
This
I have guns because they are cool, I don't need a gun living here in a 3rd world country, you won't need one living on America, if anything it is a luxury, just like having figurines and at the end of the day the only reason we have them is to show them on the internet to our 4chan friends or to just hotglue them.

I personally would rather stab somebody, ammunition costs lots of money, I have not bought a single round for my old M-16 in a long time.

>>10961447
Even if that were to happen your limited ammo supply won't last forever, and if it somehow gets past your local army, I don't think your civilian weapons will do much to stop it. Just realize that whatever your government allows you to have is not going to be anywhere near anything that can top something that just crushed your local army. The training to use them is much, much more valuable than the weapons themselves, and if you use them, it should be to either get more weapons/get more people armed for your cause.

You should not think about anything beyond a small robbery on your house, assuming you are an average /jp/ hikki.

>>10961484
>wouldn't be slowed down by anything you could legally own
>also, reusing a Godwin'd argument

>>10961517
whats godwin'd argument?

>tfw nogunz

sometimes i wish i was murikan

>>10961539
You and everyone else in the world. Why can't you just smuggle them in?

I actually just got a Mosin Nagant today. First gun I've owned though I have a decent bit of experience shooting.

I haven't shot it yet but I do love it. Have to clean off all the cosmoline tomorrow though.

>>10961538
>whats godwin'd argument?

>>10961458
>your also assuming you'll be siding with the army
>>ask the jews in ww2 how that feels
>implicitly comparing US to Nazis

Godwin's Law: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."
Corollary: "The one who uses such a comparison automatically loses the debate."

This stuff is Usenet old. Seriously.

>>10961064
If only I could give you a thumbs up right now.

>>10961603
>This stuff is Usenet old. Seriously.
You're talking to a board full of 15-19 year olds. They wouldn't know Usenet if it ran up and slapped their ass and laughed in their faces.

Kids always believe they were the first to ever do something. Just look at all the people who think 4chan was "one of the first websites on the internet" when, in fact, 4chan wasn't even one of the earliest Web 2.0 websites.

Just shake your head and move on. It's useless to try to educate these people.

>>10962669
To their defence, godwin's law is complete shit, it's like the first "EPIC XD LOL" meme that only retards who want to show other how epic they are at internet still spout. Mostly used on forums filled with normalfags.

>>10961419
>In the event of war, what exactly will your personal gun collection allow you to accomplish? Will your marksmanship allow you to survive longer on the front lines?

Yes, yes it will. The entire point of the National Rifle Association, from the day of its founding till today, is to ensure that American males always have proficiency in arms so they'll be able to serve as soldiers at a moment's notice. America fought World War 1 and World War 2 with gigantic conscript armies drafted right from the farm fields, and they worked splendidly.

General Pershing sent an aide of his ahead to the front lines to see what the situation was in Europe before American troops arrived. The aide reported the weapon of choice was the hand grenade; he witnessed one German running like hell with three brits chasing him, trying to throw grenades ahead of him so they went off when he passed over them. The Germans would later be amazed at how many casualties one American lying prone in a farm field with a rifle could rack up before he was neutralized.

To this day there is a government agency called the "Civilian Marksmanship Program" which uses government funds to pay for rifle marksmanship training for civilians, support civilian gun clubs, and provides military-surplus rifles at-cost to civilians with gun club membership - all for the express purpose of cultivating marksmanship amongst the American civilian populace. You can train people to follow orders and march in line in a few weeks, but training people to be excellent marksmen takes a lot longer.

>>10962932
Let's hope for another world war, shall we? That training could finally become useful!

How many times do we need to explain it to you? Trigger discipline are for people who can be armed by bullets. A Toehoe with a gun is a Toehoe playing with it. Do you need trigger discipline when you're playing with a water gun? Of course not.

>lol ur small armz can't stop an army XD

Tell that to the Russians who fought insurgents in Afghanistan, tell that to the British who fought the Boers in Africa, tell that to any army, anywhere. Modern militaries have artillery that can fling thousands of pounds of high explosives at targets twenty miles away, jets that can drop napalm and bombs with pinpoint accuracy, armored fighting vehicles; sixty-ton masses of "fuck you" with incredible armor that can plow THROUGH houses... and the majority of their forces still consist of men with rifles. There's a fucking reason for that - infantry is the only force that can truly occupy and secure an objective. And when you come right down to it, infantry is really fucking hard to kill. Compared to everything else, a man with a rifle is small. He can hide. If he digs a hole big enough to crouch in, you're going to have a hard time killing him with artillery, with bombs, even with direct-fire from fucking tanks; to say nothing of urban environments.

A nation who's citizens have numerous small-arms that they're skilled at using aren't going to defeat an invading army on their own. They're just going to make things really, really fucking difficult for the enemy, making the job that much easier for their own regular military forces. Its hard to keep an invasion rolling when your supply truck drivers keep getting picked off by Uncle Fudd and his Durr Raffle.

Jesus Christ people, lern2war.

>>10962932
An entire country of people trained from birth to kill other people and obey orders.

And this guy is proud of it.

>>10962940

You don't even need a war.

>>10962967
>Americans
>obeying orders

Land of "FUCK OFF, IT'S A FREE COUNTRY I DO WHAT I WANT," "MUH FREEDOMS, MOTHERFUCKER" and "CALL THE COPS I DON' T GIVE A FUCK," and you think they

follow

ORDERS

are you having a giggle m8

Ask any cop over here, they'll tell you that at least half to 3/4ts of the people they pull over for speeding immediately say THIS IS BULLSHIT I PAY YOUR SALARY WTF IS THIS BULLSHIT.

I swear to god you must be high

>>10962970
nice

post some moar of dis epik greentx stories

>>10962964
Why are you so obsessed with killing everyone? A clearly lost conventional war does unbelievable economical and infrastructural damage. Even more important is what it does to the people: the non-obvious socio-psychological damage is likely to rain down several generations in one form or the other.

Being useful in 2013 is much more difficult than being useful in a war-torn country in 1946. A disturbed wreck might be an excellent farmer but he's also likely to be a terrible information worker or caregiver.

>>10961497

i fail to understand the arguement that armies are so advanced that you can't stand up to them, advanced how? when it really gets down to it, its just a bunch of guys with rifles, just look at afghanistan, all these guys do is shoot at our troops from a distance and leave bombs in roads and they're fucking us up. they aren't even known for being that smart or good of shots, imagine what americans would do.

>>10963111
Afghans make excellent warriors. Allah knows they've had practice.

>>10962932
I'm sure all this hard work will work splendidly against missiles and tanks.

>>10963147
Modern firearms are capable of taking out tanks, though.

>>10962932
You are the epitome of brain-washed capitalist pig.

>>10963161
That's why anything bigger than a hunting rifle should be outlawed for civilian use.

>>10963159
How do you differ from him if we count out your uncooperative attitude?

>>10963168
How is not owning devices made to kill uncooperative?

Cute little girls shouldn't own guns, I can't take it easy knowing that /jp/sies own war machines.

>>10963171
You're flinging nonsensical insults at random people 4chan. That makes me believe that you're not a very established person.

You're implying that the enemy will be foreign and not domestic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNbo54V8SXA

Murrkans should be glad they can own guns, I wish I could..

>>10963335
To be honest, I have o agree because I consider self-defense an important human right.

But on the other hand, one look at murika and you realize their system is severely flawed.

>>10963438
>their system is severely flawed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_projection

>>10960990
fixed

>>10963438
?????

>>10963504
They are countries with higher homicide rates. Why shouldn't you be allowed to compare them?

>>10963484
I like how they're comparing the US with civilized countries like Jamaica or the Honduras.

>>10963507
Maybe because they're a fucking mess to begin with.
It's like comparing a football star player with with a 8 years old kid.

>>10963507
He was talking about liking, you're talking about not allowing.

>>10963511
The way I imagined him saying it was more like 'Woooow, they're comparing the Ivory Coast with the USA?'

Something like that.

>>10963515
I don't care what you were imagining.

>>10963111
>fucking us up
It might look like that to you because you are American and you mourn every single of your looses, but if you look at it from an unbiased perspective, you pretty much wrecked the place, ruined their "lives" and are pretty much winning.

The only reason why they have not been completely eradicated its because Murrica is being held down by international laws, else it could had easily been a complete genocide. Hell, how many times could you had used a single nuke on these areas, or even so, stuff like what Iraq did to that other sandnagger place?

You are also assuming that whoever will attack you will obey by similar morals/laws/human rights against the people they are trying to kill.

>>10962960
This makes sense.

>>10971855
>single nuke on these areas

I think the estimated number is four or five or so.

You are including tactical nukes and not Hiroshima-style ones, right?

>>10963480
I didn't even laugh, but you have a good point.

>>10971871
No, I meant AT LEAST one, but you have not.

>>10971916
http://www.wnd.com/2001/10/11189/

>>10972054
Oh.

I need to pay more attention to foreign affairs.
Never heard of them before.

>>10962964
>>10963111
Genghis Khan conquered both Afghanistan and Russia successfully. His troops were able to subdue every land he conquered, and pass without problems. Here's one example which may illustrate why.

The nation of Khwarezm was a major enemy to him. Their rulers murdered two groups of ambassadors Genghis sent to them requesting their allegiance. In response, he made an example of Khwarezm. The empire was utterly destroyed; its cities were razed to the ground. His armies killed everyone and made separate piles of the skulls of men, women, children, elephants, dogs, and cats. He executed the administration responsible for the deaths of his ambassadors by pouring molten silver into their eyes and throats. The region still hasn't recovered, and it's believed that the philosophy of "don't shoot the messenger" has some amount of root in what became of those who shot Genghis Khan's messengers.

Now, weapons are far more powerful, and in some cases far more horrifying, than anything Genghis Khan had. Chemical weapons make crouching in a hole equivalent to dying horribly. Tanks are more effective against infantry than you'd think: They can use their treads.. What happens when a ruthless invading army with access to such things is delayed by militants shooting at their supply chains?

The things standing between an invading army and ruthlessly and horribly putting down any fool civilian militants, along with anyone in their general vicinity, are mostly limited to things like the Geneva convention and human decency. Without those things, war is hell.

>>10963161
What firearms available to civilians can punch through reactive tank armor? Even powerful shoulder-fired rockets have trouble getting through tank armor.

>>10963327
What of it? It's cheaper to move them on a train than it is to move them on flatbed trucks, and the place where they are to be stored, or deployed, or used in training exercises, is not their factory.

>>10963327
Oh wow.

Why does that person sound like such a huge faggot its like he has never seen a tank.

Who cares about /pol/ level special olympics debate.

Who is your favorite tactical touhou?

What guns do you own/want to own /jp/

>>10972291

I've never had a gun, but my favorite-looking gun is the SGI 550. It's very pretty.

>>10972198
>>10972198
> The empire was utterly destroyed; its cities were razed to the ground. His armies killed everyone and made separate piles of the skulls of men, women, children, elephants, dogs, and cats. He executed the administration responsible for the deaths of his ambassadors by pouring molten silver into their eyes and throats.

That sounds word for word of what I heard in my Genghis campaign in AoK

>>10972324
Theres a cute swiss trap with one.
I think its a 553 though.

>>10972291
I own two guns of Slavic origin. I would like to own some guns of American origin.

>>10972291
You posted her.

I only have a Mosin Nagant (I'm >>10961572). I want to own all of the main rifles used by each major nation in WW2, though I think the price of that is too high. I also want to get an M1911, as it's my favorite pistol. Otherwise, I want to get at least one gun of each type of action. I almost got a Waffen Werks AK-74 but heard Arsenal is better so I decided to wait until gun prices drop to pre-scare levels.

>>10972484
Oh man did you read that one article where it says that obama and the gun association of America tried to boots the economy by panicking buyers?

>>10972498
No, and that sounds like a crazy conspiracy theory to me.

Also, what's with the unspent ammo lying on the ground in >>10972484? I hope the artist doesn't think that's how bullets look after shooting them.

>>10972514
I saw a thread on /tinfoil/ seem pretty real to me.

>>10972517
Any article that makes Obama out to be a gangster trying to get protection money is questionable.

>>10972518
But wouldn't it make sense for a president of a nation to boost the economy by scaring people?

Nobody gets hurt. These gun nerds have lotsa money to spend on their hobbies.

Everybody wins!

I got cabinet full of assault rifles. Let these muslims come to my house, I'll shoot them on doorstep.

>>10972535
What do you have? Which is your favorite?

>>10972514
I don't think those are unfired, its just the shoulders of the casings. If they were unfired rifle rounds the tips would have pointer bullets.

>>10972526
Paranoia and people with fire power never go well together.

>>10972535
Those commie mutant muslim terrorist traitors won't see it coming.

>>10972585
You're right, the AK-74 does shoot rounds like that. Though the image makes that look like it's the same diameter as the rest of the casing so it looked like it was the bullet.

Also, what's up with Sakuya and guns? I can understand Reisen and to an extent Nitori, but why is Sakuya depicted with guns so often?

>>10972630
Why would anybody park in that room?

>>10961120
Cirno always struck me as a slav, Estonian or Polack.

>>10972657
>Polack
I've known a few Poles. I can see it.