/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Listening to /jp/ Music Compilation One and it's heart-warmingly good.
I don't know where it was released from though, I only picked it up from /rs/ with the lit magazine.

Just wanted to say thank you to the artists. This makes me feel incredibly guilty about slacking off---I haven't painted in half a year.

Dear Internet

It's been almost 24 hours, and I've yet to see any Cirno x Wakasagihime artwork despite them being in the same stage. I have searched Danbooru, pixiv, and every other otaku/weeaboo autistic site. Please, quickly, remedy my need for this.

Sincerely, KoG

Drew my waifu punching a meteor.

I love Miko's cape too much.

>>10947655
This. the album was a lot of fun, and I enjoyed the hell out of it. Just wanted to let those who worked on it know.

Anyone got any tutorials on properly using facial space? My faces usually seem like they have a whole lot of nothing on them and have a bunch of blank head space. What should I do to make their features look more filled out?

>>10947878
Hello, friend.

>>10947721
The swag train has no brakes.

>>10948738
Dammit.

>>10948748
I like it, but the teeth kind of scare me.

A tiny bit of OC

>>>/hr/1823964

Can you spot the ``/jp/ers" that snuck in?

>>10949108
milk lel

>>10949108
I thought it was the guy with the dakimakura, then I scrolled up. GJ.

>>10949108
Wow what a dick move to a board that is not /a/ or /v/.
Why would you do that?

I am trying to work on my backgrounds and landscapes. I tried to give it some over exposed colors because I enjoy the pallet.

>>10949144
>>10949166
>>10949174
To be honest I can't think of anyone who isn't from /jp/ actually giving a shit.

>>10949174
Wanted to practice my shooping skills with GIMP. I submitted about a dozen troll /jp/ entries and less than half got in ;_;

>>10947655
>>10947870
It's mediocre and I'm already tired of it, but I say if they had nothing better to do with their time then let them do what they want.

>>10947655
www.jpproject.info

Stuck on the eyes, again.

Any tips how to make this better. Still working on it.

>>10951756
You won't find anyone good enough to help you on /jp/.

>>10951756
Where are her eyes looking?

Why is the blue drink flowing out of her mouth?

Too much blush for my taste.

Hair is flying in every direction, following no clear line.

Just saying some stuff from a total amateur, don't take it too serious.

>>10951756
The eyes are convoluted and confusing. That's the main issue I see. I'm also not quite sure what she's doing with her mouth, but mainly its those eyes.

>>10951611
Post the sketch

>>10951796
That's not true. I know there are some skilled people around here.

>>10951862
It seems kinda too bright to me. Gonna work on it.

>>10951756
This looks like a picture from some VN. Make it not look like a picture from a VN is my advice.

>>10951756
the hair shading is completely different from the shading of the rest of the picture

>>10951951
And how do i do that?

>>10951957
I don't understand. Care to explain?

>>10951921
I think its the big thick lines that shoot across the entire iris. They don't really make much sense. Toning those down could be half the battle.

>>10951611

>>10952008
i know that handwriting
rika nipah

I've been kind of sitting on my thumbs on a sketch I completed over a week ago because I have no idea how to properly color, so I have a couple of questions. Does anyone know of any good tutorials on the coloring process? And how do I find out about drawing streams on niconicolive? And lastly, how many tools should I be using in SAI and what settings, if anyone would be nice enough to share?

>>10952017
I dont think you got the right person.

>>10951969
>the hair shading is completely different from the shading of the rest of the picture

Not that guy, but her hair and clothes has very strong highlights, which suggests strong direct lighting while the background has a very overcast lighting.

You should also work on separating the background from the foreground; depth isn't conveyed really well here.

>>10952020
I wish i knew too. I see people placing bazillion of colors seemingly randomly and i can pick only few and it still looks bad. There are some tutorials on dA about color theory and some coloring process.

>>10951611

TRIGGER DISCIPLINE

fix it now

>>10952046
I kinda know about those problems but have no idea how to fix it. If i darken now hair and clothes it will look bad.

>>10952017
No that's not her, her handwriting is far worse.

I changed my sketch from Flan-chan getting raped to Flan-chan masturbating. I feel much less guilty now.
What do you think about the shading on the hat? I somehow feel like it doesn't really fit with the rest. The lineart of the body and the shading are not done yet and I'm going to add a proper background later. I probably won't get to continue drawing for a week, so I decided to post it now.

Spoilered for: [loli][nudity][lewdness][flan]

>>10953379
What site uses tags like that?

https://soundcloud.com/jdarryl/a-moment-in-the-sun

Trying out something else. I think it sounds nice and cozy, though the sound could be richer and I feel repetitiveness lurking near.

>>10947655
>>10947870
Thanks for your support. It means the most, at least to me, that my fellow /jp/ers enjoy the music that we made.

>>10949672
...And I appreciate your tolerance of us.

>>10949204
I like it, feels tranquil and warm. Have you ever considered doing a deep pine forest? I feel like your style could do a really cool representation of it.

>>10953379
Hey, that's actually not bad! Do you have a pixiv account? Are your stuff on danbooru or do they reject it for being a Western creation?

This was for a rolling draw thread about an hour ago, but it died before I could submit.

>>10954156
Just lines.

>>10953379
My issue is with her chest, not her hat. I think it should me more along the lines of this chop, but to each his own.

>>10953379

cute lewd as hell but >>10954176 is right work on your proportions next time

>>10954161

better like this your coloring could use some work it looks to sporatic and not focused or smooth

>>10953379
Some adjustments and suggestions. I didnt address all of it but it should get some stuff across. Mainly hands and feet are a bit to large, chest is too high, lighting needs to be more pronounced, directionally. Go a bit deeper in the shadowing. Rest should be clear when comparing the images.

>>10953379
I'd like to hear your explanation why you can't draw for a week.

>>10954120

I might try it.

>>10954566

good job

>>10955325
no bully

I drew a pettanko!!!! I need to.......*work on anatomy*

>>10955717

what's the opposite of pettanko ?

draw that

Here is all of the art from last thread.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cbowe65e14ohbrv/drawthread_111.rar

From now on I will upload all new drawthread .rar files in this folder, so bookmark it if you want to.
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/9yvue5ebmikig/drawthreads

I hope mediafire is still an okay choice. Haven't used it for years.

>>10955746
Why not use jpproject.info?

>>10955769
Not sure what you mean. We can upload files there now?

Demo of an old song.
It has vocals, so... beware.

https://soundcloud.com/elemile/elemile-sp-demo

>>10955895
Maybe if you ask the dev nicely. I'm pretty sure it was made to serve as a repository.

New song
https://soundcloud.com/phenomics/world-over

>>10957959
>offvocal
so there will be a vocal version?

>>10957959
Can you post a download link? Soundcloud stopped working for me a couple of days ago.

>>10957968
Eventually. As soon as the vocals are done I'll be able to release a new EP.

>>10957978
mediafire.com/download/taoqoq346z0414k/World+Over.mp3

doing serious linearting for the first time

>>10951756
My suspicion is that you just pasted a head and hands on some badly drawn clothes and background...

Anyway: use actual references for the sea and the icebergs, ay least. The can be recognized but merely as symbols (i.e. kid's drawings).

>>10958083
Wow that's pretty good

>>10957959
Neat work.
I wonder if you're in need of female vocals.
Unfortunately, I have a shitty mic.

>>10958621
Are you hot female? I am eager for female vocales, but only hot female's vocales. If you are hot female, please reply instantly.

If you are not hot female, do not reply. Ugly female has ugly voice, no exception.

>>10958621
No need for sluts here.

>>10958649
>Ugly female has ugly voice, no exception.

Not true, there are some fat voice actors who do really cute voices.

>>10958649
>Ugly female has ugly voice, no exception.
Not that poster, but, you ever listen to erotic audio tapes? Some of the girls on them have the sexiest voices you could ever imagine. Like, fucking amazing voices. Then when you see a picture of them in real life they're horribly deformed or landwhales and all the fapping you ever did to their voice suddenly feels unclean and dirty.

>>10958649
Hot vocals? I don't know. Can't put it in the "hot" category, maybe more like childlish or plain girly.
I don't know man.

>>10958670
I do listen to erotic audio tapes, among other audio tapes. I can tell if someone is ugly from their voice, and that makes their voice ugly to me. My parentes say I have talent for this.

>>10958672
can you sound like cute 12 year old japanese girl give blowjob

>>10958621
btw im a grill

>>10958621
>>10958672
>>10958702
Nyanners is that you? I'm your number one fan!

>>10958682
>My parentes say I have talent for this.
You talk to your parents about your erotic audio tapes?

>>10958621
>female vocals

Wait, does that mean... you're grill?!

>>10958722
Yes, among other audio tapes. Sometimes they even provide them! Besides being a musician, my parents support my voice acting training. Many will laugh at me, but I want to be a voice actor and musician in Tokyo.

>>10958621
Phenomics here, sorry but if I wanted female vocals I would ask my sister.

Is there a way to get better at song writing or do you just keep making shitty songs until you make one that you think sounds half decent?

>>10958744
I have hundreds of shit songs on my hard drive. It's all about experimentation (just my opinion).

Video of my chip/ukulele: youtu.be/O3HCtjWSwqk

>>10958754
>ukulele
OMG, that's so indie!! XD

>>10958739
Ok. Keep the good work.

>>10958754
Bretty good stuff

>>10958754
I like it.

>>10958739
>I would ask my sister.

It's anime shit again, sorry

>>10959821
Why would someone draw Ryuuko when Satsuki is so much better?

>>10959836
Is Satsuki the military looking girl?

I too think she looks much better, but I am a sucker for the dominant military looking girl with a cold personality. I also love Esdese from Akame ga Kiru.

>>10954145
I have a pixiv, but there's pretty much nothing on there. My art is just now starting to get somewhat decent so I never felt like putting it up anywhere besides /jp/.
>>10954176
Thanks, I make this specific mistake every single time. I don't really know much about anatomy, so I just go with what feels right which is often simply wrong.
>>10954566
Wow, thank you so much. That's very detailed and most of it makes sense to me. I don't really see why the hand has to point backwards though. Does it look more natural that way?
You seem to know alot about anatomy. May I ask what you used to study? I tried some books, including the one by Andrew Loomis, but the stuff he teaches at the very beginning was already kinda hard for me to understand. Should I try to work through it anyway or is there something simpler I could try first?
>>10954317
>>10954901
Thanks. I'll be at my parents' place until sunday and drawing on my tiny laptop screen wouldn't be very pleasant.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/rr-rr/
%%:3%%

http://sf.net/p/rr-rr/
:3

>>10960274
Can't read Redrunes. What is it?

Quick sketch for fun.

>>10960306
Odd job that I'm trying to develop. Just advertised myself.

I had to draw this after all that cock talk earlier.

>>10960363
Whoops. Forgot to spoiler it. This is a christian imageboard.

>>10960368
Tits must hang like some South American or New Guinea tribal.

>>10960368
2 LEWD

>>10960321
Not brown, would not permit to love me.
Purple up those eyes too.
It'll be great.

>>10960381
Because torpedo tits are the best.
Me pounding a /jp/er with a girly cock.

>>10960387
It's cute.

/jp/er crossdressing for the first time and discovering her sexuality.

>>10959920

I recommend doing research and reference from multiple places, do not use just one artist or "method" Look to artists like Hogarth for sense of movement etc. Even look at cartooning stuff they really give a sense of life to an image. Do not discount Loomis though, just use him as one of many to learn/steal from.

To start simply I would use simple shapes to build the human from with. This way you are working in volume and should be able to keep a sense of depth to the work. I think hogarth's dynamic figure drawing touches on this. He does go a bit further than simple spheres, cylinders, and rectangles. In time these shapes will help in structuring your work and should become automatic without drawing it. The importance of this is so you can visualize in 3d, to see how a shape crossing another will affect it in light and shadow. Not to mention the obvious of posing and foreshortening.

Do not let any method become a crutch.

While you grasp the technical side of anatomy or proportions, start learning to work in value. This should help with getting more punch into the painting. This will later work with the learning of volume since you can later on paint directly on canvas with value then flesh out detail without ever placing any guide lines.

Do many, many drawings. Avoid large time consuming projects. Having one or two is fine but in between crank out the doodles. All the large projects to is lock you down and slow advancement.

Do not get lost in the technicalities, dynamic form and flow are just as important as accuracy and detail. Google figure drawing you should find some good examples of FLAT drawings that have all the technical bits right but lack any sense of depth or reality.

>>10960513
thanks anon

>>10958744
Learn music theory. I guarantee this will improve your songwriting skills significantly in a relatively short time, in comparison to just "making shitty songs" until it sounds good, regardless of what genre you play. Unless you're playing something as avant-garde as post-modernist art ambient black jazz post-rock, but then you shouldn't be playing those if you're still asking how to improve your writing.

>>10958739
Is she cute? Can I fug her?

Describe your loli and her favourite animal. I have time for one or two

>>10961772
dead.

>>10961529
Is there somewhere that you would recommend to learn music theory? I just realized all of my guitar books just go over chords and scales but nothing about forming songs.

Any critisism will be well received.

Lately I've been working on whatever passes my mind, I think it's the first time I've drawn tewi and I guess it doesn't look all that bad.

If someone can direct me to a good tutorial on how to color shit it will be really appreciated. (my coloring at best, it's very basic)

>>10961772
Kinda thin, bespectacled, bookish little brown girl™ with twin braids and dark hair and green eyes. Prefers light blue and/or black clothing and past knee length skirts.

Her favorite animal is a raptor. The Jurassic Park kind, not the tiny feathered actual kind of dinosaur it's thought of as in modern times.

>>10961834
Everyone's waiting for you at /bun/!

>>10961866
I don't get it.

>>10961900
I think the joke is that /bun/ loves guro and they have like 2 threads with 300 guro pictures.

I wish I knew how the work of good artists looked when they were only drawing for 10 months. Then I would know how fast someone usually advances and if my progress is too slow or just right.

>>10960368
Are you the guy that drew "that" Sanae picture?

>>10961837
How good are you with your fundamentals and theories? Are you comfortable enough with the concept of key sigs and tonality? Have you memorized your circle of fifths? Have you got your triads and harmonies pat down? Are you familiar with consonances and dissonances? Accidentals?

I wanted to practice drawing males a bit, and this turned out better than expected.

>>10962933
Just exchange smooth curves with sharp edges. Its easier then people think.

>>10962933
I have no idea how to draw a man. Or a mature woman. I can only draw young girls.

>>10962863
Probably you mean one of these? This is all I have made for /jp/ so far.

>>10962944
Just draw dudes like you do girls. No one will question you as long as you mention they are dudes.

>>10963187
Yeah, the kiss one.

>>10963187
Post img511

>>10963222
I'll post it in 2 hr when I get home.

>>10963229
You have job?

>>10963250
No.

I hide in the public library making my parents think I go to college. I actually dropped out 6 months ago but they don't know.

>>10963261
Doing that was one of the worst parts of my life, I hope you can stop it soon.

>>10963281
Thanks I appreciate it.

>>10963222

>>10960513
>Do many, many drawings. Avoid large time consuming projects. Having one or two is fine but in between crank out the doodles.
I never really liked doing quick sketches, but I guess it's the only way. Does it help at all to copy poses from other artists?

>>10954156 here;
A doodle while intermittently blocked at work. It is Nihei's cactus doll from Knights of Sidonia.

>>10962927
I don't know any of those, I can read a musical score very slowly though if it's just single notes though.

>>10965141
she's supposed to have short hair though

>>10954156 again;
Whiteboard doodles for a work mate.

>>10965258
Cute. Is this an education center or a work center?

>>10965456
A work center. If you're interested: software development for video games, modeling and simulation.

Here is another work doodle: an attempt to remember the album cover of House Set of Imperishable Night.

>>10962927
I have no idea what any of those are, and I still make semi ok music. Theory is just theory.

>>10965512
I feel kinda jealous, my non-neet days were filled with accounting/billing software and old men.

>>10965554
The work is intense. We contract to EA Sports a lot. I couldn't sneak any Touhou into Madden though..

Another doodle for a work mate. He likes to main Youmu in Hisoutensoku.

>>10965852
I've snuck Touhou references into newspaper articles I've written as acrostic poems.

Where there's a will, a way will be found through sheer boredom.

>>10965880
Damn that's funny. I had to pass my code through reviews by leads; they don't let anything slip by..

Here is a dry erase of Meiling.

>>10965980
i want to rape you for having those hashtags there

>>10965852
>I couldn't sneak any Touhou into Madden though

Does Madden still have that mode where you can make custom teams? You could probably make a subtle Touhou logo.

not my original drawing but a decent reproduction considering I have no artistic skills whatsoever

I drew a cute flower

>>10965986
I'm sorry. Here's another dry erase to make up for it.

>>10966008
I don't know about custom teams, most of my work was on this set of features: http://www.easports.com/madden-nfl/news/article/madden-25-connected-franchise
Art assets could only be sent through the revision system by registered artists.

>>10965980
Editors at most periodicals usually have days or hours to edit copy that writers send in, so I guess I have that working to my advantage. Given all of the work that they put in, I doubt that screening pages of copy for potential pranks is at the top of their priorities.

It's a shame that I can never tell anyone that my ostensibly serious political investigations are vehicles for me to covertly express my love for magical lolis ;_;

>>10964905
I would avoid it because you would really just be copying the drawing without understanding depth and volume.

Quick sketches can be 10min things or more. I wouldn't go more than a hour a doodle if you want to add in more detail.

>>10966044
kawaii

>>10965179
Start here then. http://academic.udayton.edu/tobyrush/theorypages/
Since you're playing guitar, you might want to check out the Creative Guitar Studio channel at YouTube. If you have a concept you don't understand, just search there, and chances are he's already covered it. There's also a lot of songwriting lessons in Ultimate-Guitar, but a lot are rubbish, and I'd only recommend it once you can tell treasure apart from trash.

I suggest you learn about key signatures first, then intervals. If you've understood intervals, you'll be able to do a lot of cool things. Chord constructions and chord movements, for example, stems from there, so if you're familiar with intervals, you'll be able to write mean riffs. Afterwards, it's just a matter of connecting riffs and passages to make a song. You could also do neat tricks like inversions or harmonies with it, but those comes later.

Once you've got intervals down, you can go ahead and listen to your favorite songs and understand the chord movements, expanding your aural library. So next time you want a sound that feels like X song, you can use chord movements familiar to you to write that.

If you reduce it enough, songs are just chord movements, usually moving around and then resolving to root. Most melodies can be reduced to chords as well. If you see it like this, it's logical seeing that to get better at songwriting - the practice of writing chord movements - you need to learn about chords themselves. Best of luck.

>>10965539
>Theory is just theory.
Indeed! In fact, that is the first thing you should realize when learning theory, lest you end up as a balding, stuck-up bourgeois ignoramus. Theory is, in its basest, just a way of saying how doing things this way is guaranteed to sound pleasant. It is not all-encompassing.

But, you've probably applied those concepts unconsciously, without being aware of them. For example, if your music has a "ground" note where it's played often and returned to as often, you've used the concept of tonality. If your music "fits" and "sounds nice," your notes are in key, and you've used the concept of key signatures and scales. I haven't heard any music in /jp/ that hasn't utilized music theory concepts. Yes, even denpa or lolicore.

Learning basic theory, for the most part, is just giving names to concepts you've subconsciously know, if you've been writing for a while.

It's not essential, but simply by being aware of these fundamentals, and applying them consciously, you will be able to make better songs. It gives you a solid ground, a guide on what to do and how to do it. I believe you might have been doing this intuitively. This feature also presents an opportunity; by breaking the rules outlined in theory, you can create new and exciting sounds. And you can't break the rules if you don't know them first.

>>10965258
>>10965512
>>10965852
>>10965980
>>10966023
>>10966068
I don't understand why you pretend to have the same hobbies as me when you have a job or think this is /jp/ related just because of the characters. Sure, you can somewhat draw, but why post it here? All it does is to annoy others and derail the thread into /soc/ content.

Hell, even this >>10966044 is much better than your real world "lol, look at my job dude" stuff. No one is jealous of you, it's just plain annoying and you should avoid this in the future.

>>10965258
>>10965512
>>10965852
>>10965880
>>10966023
>>10966068
>>10966096
Sorry buddies, but you can only really love 2D if you have as little as possible to do with the 3D-world.

>>10966707
Oh look, Captain Autismo's finally arrived here. Can anyone draw a cute rendition of this sperglobyte? Please?

>>10966749
Can you even talk without using memes? I always wonder how someone like this is even being able to get a job.

>>10966623
Thanks a bunch, this is going to be a bunch to study for a while.

I love being a NEET.

>>10960274
Particles! (not very optimized yet)

From 1-2 years ago to just a few hours ago.

I guess I did improve

>>10967040

White skin and blush stickers

>>10967040
which one is which?
i like the right one more

>>10967045
I love KKHTA pretty much made me go in love with Koishi
>>10967051
Right one is when I just bought my tablet at that time I was absorbing too much from other artists and wasn't focusing on improving my own drawings, here is another from around the same date

>>10967067

I also thoroughly enjoyed KKHTA, and am thankful for its existence because the fanart provides so many terrifying sprays for use in TF2 and gmod.

I really don't get what inspires people to do anything creative.

>>10967261
desires.

either the desire to impress someone, to get in someone else's pants, the desire to have good materials for fapping which others don't provide and such.

I posted this in the stg thread some time ago, but I'll still leave it here. I want to draw all the characters in PCB like this one day.

>>10967389
>desires.
How the HELL

tried to draw the female MC from P3P

>>10966772
No worries. Just ask away if there's anything you're not sure about. I'm still learning myself, but I know some people who are really good with theory lurk OC threads from time to time. And I can share you some tips about songwriting if you need it.

>>10967015
What is that? It looks purrty.

>>10967261
I do it out of love for my hobbies. If others can enjoy whatever I made as much as I enjoy the things I love, then even better.
Also sometimes I get this painful, pulsing sensation in my head if I get a good idea and I can't sleep until I make something out of it. So pain is a factor as well I guess.

>>10967490
Whoa!

Marisa is fat!

Are there any books about learning perspective available for free like the Loomis books? I can't afford to buy any but I need to learn how to think in 3D when drawing.

>>10967110

>>10967811
http://www.scribd.com/doc/5178935/Perspective-Made-Easy

fukafuka

I made this today. I'm not very good at drawing profile faces. Is her neck too long? At least her tail looks like it would taste good.

>>10968193
Fuuka is cute!

Some sketch I was making. It was just the initial design, later I'll post progress with changes and more bigger version.

>>10968307
How do you color like this? And...lineart

>>10968307
why the red tumblr nose?

I'm lost. Something is wrong but I can't exactly say what.

Please, please help me
I wouldn't mind some words of encouragement either

>>10968542
her eyes look like they're aligned on a 2D plane and not her face.

>>10968542
Reminds me of SYD mangaka

>>10968546
Better now?

>>10968604
Yes.

>>10968542
>>10968604

>>10968803
Thanks!! I appreciate it

>>10968803
2/10 wud not fuq

>>10968282
Fuuka is the cutest.

>>10961852
I'll do this eventually. Just not today.

>>10969009
>>10968307
Am I missing something? When did face veils become popular?

>>10960274
Are you same guy who always uses :3 in spoilers on iichan.ru?

>>10967490
I like this a lot!

>>10968175
I have no criticism to offer, but it's pretty cute.

>>10969417
Perhaps, but you just described half of its visitors.

>>10970062

why are her tits exploding

>>10968175
This made me smile.

I'm tired of my characters standing in white space, so I've begun practicing scenery/backgrounds. I don't even know where to begin.

>>10970497
Do something simple like base it on a pic of people sitting on a park bench.

is it legal to make a manga out of someone else's book?

>>10970662
Possibly. If it's parody, public domain, fan fiction, or it's only loosely based on the idea.

>>10970662
please don't draw that scene

>>10970662
Please tell me no one bought that. If they did, please tell me this isn't indicative of the book.

>>10970737
>wah! where are the pictures onikhan?

>>10970692
ignore what this anon said and please draw that scene. My sides are gone.

>>10970692
>>10970891
i never said i could draw...

>>10960513
>>10964905
Then again, not spending days on one single picture might be nice for a change I guess.

>>10970741
>onikhan

>>10969108
Ever since the muslims took over the world.

>>10971486
Yeah, sorry about that. Kinda dropped the ball there.

>>10970737
unfortunately, I bought that book. It appealed to me as I frequent /fit/ as well. You could probably just read that excerpt and get the best of the book. It's riddled with typos including but not limited to the misspelling of one of the character's names in multiple instances. Grammatical and typographical errors abound, and the sense of parody is at no point subtle. Just save yourself the... what, three dollars he charges for an ebook copy?

>>10970662
What the fuck am I reading

>>10970138

>>10958083
Experimenting

Would you high-touch the Yayoi?
Also what do you think about the foreshortening? Does it look somewhat correct?

ｗｗｗｗｗｗっうぁてヴぇる

>>10972362
I like it.

>>10973106
Why is her body a block of tofu?

>>10970138
wut

>>10971797
literature you pleb

Gabriella, she's a tough girl despite being cute.

>>10976003
So she's a feminist?

Just finished up a concept album last week.

http://vandrao.bandcamp.com/album/eternal

I'm missing album artwork because the artist I was going to commission decided to take a break from commissions right when I finished.

>>10976628
Nice to hear from you. Checking out the album now!

>>10976655
I hope you enjoy it!

>>10976628
Started listening, thinking I'll get bored and stop halfway through to continue listening to RTS10 stuff, but I ended up listening all the way till the end. Interpret that however you wish.

Question for the more experienced artists here:

I've been drawing with a cheap Wacom tablet for a while and I need to move on to a better one. It can be on the more expensive side if it's worth the money. I'm also curious about the devices with integrated screens, would it be better if I get directly one of those?

If you can recommend me a nice one I'll appreciate it.

>>10977569
Intuos4 or 5 should be perfect, medium or large. I don't recommend getting the ones with integrated screen if you were already patient enough to get used to drawing with indirect visual contact.

>>10977569
I would suggest a Wacom because you can sell it easily if you change your mind and it will keep its value for quite some time. As for tablets with monitor I would again suggest a Wacom because I heard that the alternatives will ither give you burned pixels within months or very bad colors. Tablets like those are over rated anyway even the most expensive will give you quite some lag and with normal tablets you can put it on your legs and be very comfortable. Jus get something big enaugh to use your sholder, small tablets will force you to draw with the wrist and you will end up chicken schratching.

>>10959920

>>10976003
she has penis shaped hair

It doesn't sound right. I can't forgive him after what he thought. F for failure, go back to the U.S. having the JLPT tests as motivation a good performer, and you've said that you really think you might not actively seek companionship from anyone and is still there, even after I asked, sorry for being so much like pro wrestling according to their parents, and have done it once.

>>10977732

you spoil me spoiler

Paint therapy. Really tired.

>>10978087
More trees.

>>10978087
>>10978090
Please stop slacking. Draw the dead raptor loli already.

>>10978090

Looks like what you'd get if you spray painted cardboard and then pieced it together. It has a very cut out feel.

Would still like some more feedback on this post/question if anyone can help >>10952020

>>10978109

Make a color wheel. Use the three primary colors only to make your secondaries and tertiary colors.

Then do monochromatic value scales. These will help teach you how to control your values and vibrancy to make the colors you want.

>>10978087
You'd make great backgrounds for a point and click game.

That's the first thing I thought when I saw your pictures.

>>10978109
This is my take on coloring. It's good that you already have a sketch. I usually fill in the flat colors first, with shadow areas. The light and shadow areas are important to define the shape and contour of the object. If this is done right, you can have a solid object with only light and shadow values. I'll blend and spread more value/color variance later, depending on the style I want to achieve. I don't always follow these rules, evidently in my landscapes.

>>10978106
>>10978202
I'll do better next time...

Where can I get the music please

>>10978215
This >>10978202 was a compliment, I really like your work.

Sorry if it seemed otherwise.

>>10963594
>"Who am I quoting?"

>>10978215
>>10978114
Thank you!

Also, do you (>>10978215) have a Pixiv account?

>>10978302
here
>>10978513

>>10978035
would brush her hair/10

It's too hot here, /jp/

>>10980193
more horrible mangaka esque shit

>>10980193
>>10980201
my eyes are in pain, remove that filter

I remember when people in these kind of threads were shit at drawing.. It was fun to laugh at their works, but now i am the person who sucks at this shit.

/jp/ has become better at drawing

>>10980223
I didn't use a filter...

>>10980227
You're doing some funky shit with the outlines and its really bad to look at.

I drew reimu

>>10980266
5/4 bretty good

>>10965974

>>10965974
Nice!

I lost my pallet and forgot what I was doing when I woke up...

>>10980445
I like your color choices, they feel very soft and pastelly.

>>10980266
y iz c so yllw

>>10968923
Shit, I forgot the school emblem. Well, whatever.

>>10980647
Look at how real clothes bend, crease and wrinkle more.
Consider the perspective of clothes and what should be visible to the viewer.
Look at real hands more. You got a pair, just use it for reference. If you can't figure it out, look at some tutorials, there's a lot of them out there covering the very basic mistakes you're making.

>>10980688
Okay, thanks.
I know well that hands don't really work that way, but that's not stopping me.

I'm still working on this game.
Currently have 5 different enemies, more to come.

>>10981559
Those Golbats don't poison or confuse you or move in zig zags right? Right?

>>10980688
How about YOU show first what you can draw before trying to give other people any advices.

>>10982266
Doesn't take a chef to know food tastes bad, etc.,

That said, I don't think his drawing was all that awkward, and his critique came off more than a bit pompous.

I don't wan't to be an artist. Fuck it. It's not worth the work. The few art classes I took at my community college did shit!

Let's assume I want to be a really good artist in the future and I've been drawing for roughly one year, are there some fundamentals I should've "somewhat" mastered up to this point?

>>10982974

no, just keep drawing

>>10982974
I've drawn for 4 years and I'm still shit. Just so you know

>>10982974
as long as you keep yourself out of your comfort zone you'll (hopefully) avoid stagnation

>>10982051
They're regular bats, but now that you mention it, they do look a bit like Golbats.
They swoop down and hit you, here's an old gif.

>>10980445
Your landscaped look amazing. How do you learn to draw line that?

>>10980445
Your landscapes look amazing. How do you learn to draw like that?

>>10981172
You can still draw cute slender fingers with invisible fingernails and stuff, you don't have to draw every joint and wrinkle - just get the underlying structure right and it's going to be looking much better.

Feet and hands really benefit for a solid grasp of anatomy if you want to make them attractive, even if you end up simplifying and over-exaggerating some features.

How do I establish where the edge of my shadows lie in my picture? I understand how light and shadow works, but I can only understand as far as the primary light source (like from the sun). I have a hard time imagining why more complex shading works the way it does in many pictures I look at.

>>10983395
Self shadows or cast shadows? I don't exactly understand what you're having a problem with.

>>10982974
>>10983053
Find some drawfags/artists/whatever near you and have drawing sessions. If you cannot do this or are to uneasy, find a paint chat online and get a group together. Do work, do not sit there vomiting memes and make out doodles. Watch how others do things and use the chat. It is a lot easier for someone to explain something live than vs something as static as /jp or forums.

Mastery of anything is all individual. If self taught I have seen some advance in 3 months others take years. It all depends on drive and what you start with. none of the fast learners do so in a closet locked away from influence. If you learn bad habits early on or learn things in a lopsided manner you will likely struggle more on your own. But there is no defined this is what you should know at point A and this is what you know by point B. Even with proper training what you learn and when varies between teachers and schools.

You have your basics, learning volume (drawing simple shapes) values (lights to darks) With these you should learn lights to darks and how shadows interact with the objects and stuff around them. Then if your aim is figure drawing you have the technical aspects of it such as proportion foreshortening mass weight and volume Then how flesh lays and structure of underlying bits then observations on fabrics clothing and how it interacts with the body. All during this you learn differing ways to produce an image. Such as negative space, blind hand (drawing while looking at the subject only) gestural, various mediums etc.

Again the styles and methods of drawing will vary depending on who you talk to. Research for yourself do not expect some random anon to know what is best. What works for anon A will not necessarily work for anon B. This is where having others around you or at least in a live chat helps.

Most of all Effort, it is the only thing that allows you to progress, you cant read words have an epiphany and you are suddenly pro the next day.

>>10983410
Both I think. I basically have close to no idea how to figure out how to shade.

>>10983364
I'll post some hands

>>10983422
this is good stylization

>>10983427

>>10983395
This might help
http://finalbossblues.com/form-and-light/
http://androidarts.com/art_tut.htm

>>10983422

>>10983432

>>10983427
quit posting stuff you stole off some blog.

>>10983449
Epic post

>>10983435
I don't want to flood the thread so here's one more guy

>>10983459
If you really want a disclaimer, that was Milt Kahl and this is Leyendecker.

>>10983416
I wonder if there's a point when it's already too late to reach a certain level of skill. I started pretty late at the age of 25 and I have serious trouble to think 3-dimensional when drawing. Sometimes I think my brain is already too old to learn this now.

>>10983459
>I don't want to flood the thread
HAHAHA

This thread will reach its end, drop to page 10, and be pruned without hitting its image limit, as normal.

>>10983534
Start simple. Age does not matter. Visual acuity is not the same as hitting advanced math at 30. Everyone has to learn to see volume and depth. There is a reason drawing 101 starts with foam shapes on a white background.

>>10968457

Color like what?

>>10968490

Yeah, looks crappy. Working on that, though.

>>10969108

Huh... I swear I haven't seen much characters with scarfs.

I added a secret character, rare occurence in the game.
I might make her drop an item or something.

>>10983964
What are you using to make this?

>>10983980
I'm using C++ and this library http://hge.relishgames.com
For audio I'm using IrrKlang

>>10984028
If you're into C++ why aren't you just using SDL or SFML? More options and usually up-to-date.

>>10984099
>More options

No point in reinventing the wheel.

He could also use OpenGL, or directly manipulate the framebuffer.

Right tool for the right job, etc. I haven't used HGE but I have used Irrlicht and IrrKlang, and they're really good libraries. Crazy fast, too.

>>10984112
What do you mean by reiventing the wheel?
Aside from few things, SFML for example gives you anything needed for a 2D games, as drawing methods etc..
Maybe I assumed wrong but isn't he making his own engine? From there you have to change the wheel a bit for your own convenience, but obviously I never meant to tell him to manipulate the framebuffer or something, waste of time development indeed.

Then again I'll take a look again at HGE, didn't know about it before. Who knows, maybe I'll like it and use it too in the end.

>>10984099
I'd rather not get into library wars but I have my reasons.

I've actually used both, SFML2 up to the release had graphical glitches I couldn't solve (using code from the documentation and official examples).

HGE does just what I needed so I'm sticking to it for now..
It uses DX8 and hasn't been updated in a while, but it works as expected and it lets me focus on my game.

Eventually I'll move to SDL, I already used it wiith OpenGL but I'm not interested in doing that right now, I'd rather just make games.

>>10984240
Sure, no problem, that was just a suggestion since you seems to have a firm knowledge of C++.
To be honest I can use it too but I went the C# way in the end because I got bored of building components rather than making a game, so I really get your point. Even though recently I wondered if I shouldn't just go down to C++ once and for all.

>>10984255
Oh okay, no worries.
I really like C#, XNA is great.

I moved on to C and C++ only because I wanted to learn them for a while, not because other languages were bottlenecks.

Unless you just want to use C++, I'd recommend against it, C# can do most things you'd want honestly. Especially with Unity being free and able to do more complex 3D games

Hey /jp/, good luck with your projects

>>10983310

I wouldn't say they're amazing. I am self taught. I used a lot of places to try and learn to be better such as:

https://www.currys.com/template.htm?PAGE=ARTISTCOMMLIB&ECINFO=TT-LANDCOMP

Perspective by Gwen White

I have a book called "Sci-fi art: a graphic history" which I use for a lot of inspiration.

I try to do studies but I always have trouble with it and I also still have trouble painting digitally.

edgy autism shit

>>10984980
shit dude, get your stuff togheter at least

>>10984980
Well, I guess it's okay to post this then.

>>10985115
At least is turned the right way

>>10984919
For me, drawing has always been a rough sketch, then lineart and then color.
I have a hard time understanding how people can draw in that other way, first painting big shapes and then adding detail, using all kinds of different brushes.
I tried that once or twice and failed horribly. That's why everything drawn that way looks amazing to me.
I guess I'll give it a try again, even though I'm still unsure where to start. I guess some tutorial on painting techniques would be good. I do know perspective and some color theory already.

Just an old improvisation on guitar...

https://soundcloud.com/elemile/elemile-d-c-da-capo

...and an old improvisation on a tablecloth.

I've been doing some dakimakura artworks myself

>>10987986
We don't really like people with names here...

>>10987986
not bad.

>>10986078
I like that chord progression quite a lot. Make it a full song man!

What do you use to record what's on your soundcloud?

>>10988959
Thanks. My capabilities are very limited but I see what I can do.

The guitar stuff I record it acoustic with a normal headset microphone; the piano stuff, with a Korg microKEY USB keyboard; I record and mix on Audicity and add some effects on Cool Edit.

>>10986125
Why do I like this