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We now cannon

>> No.10923845

Doesn't Futo supposed to have white hair?

>> No.10923843

> eyelashes thicker than eyebrows

hnnngg

>> No.10923862

Why does it look like they have huge eyebrows?

>> No.10923857

>>10923838

I thought Futo was so small, but she has the same height as Marisa

>> No.10923870

Reimu is still my favorite.

>> No.10923872

>>10923862
Because Alphes is retarded and thinks that huge colered eyelashes is something cute and original instead of something stupid

>> No.10923878

Nitori is a loli?

>> No.10923882

Cannon?

>> No.10923883

>>10923882
typo

>> No.10923887

>>10923838
Pick one, /jp/.

>> No.10923891
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Byakuren tall and busty older woman confirmed
Also gradient hair double confirmed.

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>>10923882

>> No.10923895

Who will be lowest tier? Nitori and Koishi because too gimmicky? Miko because trouble getting popularity in hard matches? Hijiri because trouble getting close?

>> No.10923896

>>10923862
Why are people consistently mistaking eyelashes for eyebrows?

>> No.10923903

>>10923838
There is a strong logic in it I'd say.

Two Hitler Taoists, two Buddhists, Reimu and Marisa, and two random.

>> No.10923907

>>10923838
Just what is wrong with Koishi's leg?

>>10923896
The actual eyebrows are tiny, and the eyelashes look like eyebrows, and also stupid.

>> No.10923908

>>10923895

I remember hearing about troubles with Ichirin due to her slowness but I don't know if that'll last once people get better and learn to play her more.

>> No.10923910
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>>10923903
>Two hitler taoist

Oh my

>> No.10923915

>>10923910
Miko is basically Hitler, amassing followers and trying to conquer the human race. Byakuren is Churchill, trying to find ally to fight against the Miko horde.

>> No.10923921

>>10923915
Miko fights for humans while Hijiri is a filthy Youkai collaborator. Remove Youkai from /jp/.

>> No.10923919

>>10923903
>three Buddhists
FTFY

>> No.10923920

>>10923915
Buddhists want to turn humans into livestock, death to the buddhist youkai scum!

>> No.10923924
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>>10923838

>> No.10923922

Any more new character announcement today?

>> No.10923926

>>10923915
Its really cool how you try to attack Miko when she hasnt done anything yet while Byakuren has tried to prevent her resurrection

>>10922045

>> No.10923928

>>10923922
join the f5 spamming fun
http://www.tasofro.net/touhou135/

>> No.10923934

>>10923922

Their twitter said that yesterdays was it.

>> No.10923937

>>10923922
Nope, but im expecting a gameplay video or something like that. Maybe tomorrow.

>> No.10923946
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10923946

8 characters in a modern fighter? 8?
Unacceptable by all standards, should be no less than 16.

>> No.10923953

>>10923926
I don't really intend to take sides here, but would you complain if someone tried to prevent Hitler's resurrections?

>> No.10923954

>>10923946
This isn't some big company who can hire 20 artists to draw 4000 sprites though.

>> No.10923956
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>>10923934
>>10923946
8 fucking characters none of them kaguya are you kidding me smalls?

>> No.10923958

>>10923954
They've made three goddamn Touhou games. They should have became a big company by now.

>> No.10923961

>>10923958
Uh, make that three official and god knows how many fangames.

>> No.10923962

>>10923946
16 may be a stretch but I really hoped for 12. And we are probably getting 1-2 new characters, so we will end up with 9-10 in the end. Could be worse.

>> No.10923963

Byakuren has some huge tits.

Her in game sprite even more so.

Oppai Oppai.

>> No.10923965

>>10923946
In case you turbo nerd haven't noticed, each character has 3 different play styles.

Also, the original Street Fighter 2 had only 8 playable characters.

>> No.10923969

>>10923958
>They should have became a big company by now
Thats exactly what Zun doesnt want to happen

If he wanted a big company to make touhou games he could have done it years ago

>> No.10923971

i just noticed Koishi's other leg. what is wrong with that thing?

>> No.10923972

>>10923965
That's just a cheap gimmick.

Is it better than nothing? I guess.

>> No.10923973

>>10923969
I should be happy that Zun is so devoted, but sometimes I wish he could finally gather courage and money to create his own Touhou company and start some bigger projects.

>> No.10923975

>>10923969
>If he wanted a big company to make touhou games he could have done it years ago

He kinda did. He only took it to Comiket after Taito refused.

>> No.10923976

>>10923965
>In case you turbo nerd haven't noticed, each character has 3 different play styles.
And?
>Also, the original Street Fighter 2 had only 8 playable characters.
Modern fighter, you understand modern, yes?
>>10923954
Yea, no. If anything they didn't want to balance so many characters. Remember when they had the sprites DONE for Mokou and Kaguya and just cut them from 12.3?

>> No.10923977

Did you guys forget Mamizou is also in? Also the final boss might be playable.

9 characters for a starting fighting game is a good amount, especially with good looking sprites, Tasofro is not Capcom.

Blazblue started with 12.

>> No.10923985

>>10923976
Define "modern", and how new fighters are improving over design beyond extra energy bars to limit the use of powerful moves.

>> No.10923982

This lineup barely makes sense for the context of the game.

>> No.10923983

>>10923895

It really depends. Byakuren probably doesn't sound like she'll have trouble getting close since she has teleporting. Miko is a wild card, she'll either be very strong or very weak. Can't speak for the other two though.

>> No.10923988

>heightchart.jpg

Alphes doesn't get to decide how tall the characters are, neither does Aki Eda or anyone but ZUN.

This is just a stylized interpretation of those characters.

>> No.10923993

>>10923988
ZUN oversees Alphes designs though.

>> No.10923998

>>10923953
Think deeper.

>> No.10924009

I just wanted Kanako. And someone else from Moriya. They actually felt like important to the plot of this game.

>> No.10924016

>>10923953
>>10923998
A manga named Houkago no Charisma deals with one of the characters being the clone of Hitler.

He ends up becoming a saint of the catholic church with everyone loving him for his humanitarian efforts.

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>>10923976
WAT
I remember the Mokou pics, but there was Kaguya!?

They fucking owe me Kaguya too?
That's a lot harder to forgive as she is my patron Touhou.

Looking to be...pipe bomb time

>> No.10924025

Did the demos actually have any chapters from the story? For all we know the plot has taken a big shift from the original premise.

>> No.10924027

>>10923976
SWR reuses every single sprite from IAMP(minus Meiling) so 10 characters were already mostly finished. In terms of new characters SWR had less than HM has now. It only has 5 characters who are not just re-used from IAMP. The sprites were also a lot simpler than they are in HM. I don't think you realize how much work it is to make so many detailed sprites. In the end there are even more new sprites done for HM then there were for SWR, even if you should count Mokou and Kaguya for SWR, if one assumes that the new characters have as many as Reimu, Marisa and Ichirin have.

>> No.10924033

>>10923977
Mamizou? Where?

>> No.10924039
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10924039

How many characters does skullgirls have?
8 right?
Its about the same and we still need to see the final boss and maybe Mamizou.

And we may get another downloadable character like Meiling in IaMP

>> No.10924042

>>10924033
In the code, like Rin Satsuki.

>> No.10924045

>>10924042

Well shit.

>> No.10924046
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Nitori canon loli

>> No.10924054

>>10924023
>>10923976
Where are Mokou's sprites 12.3?

I have only seen fan sprites

>> No.10924061

>>10924046
She never was a mature looking character in any of the touhou art really

>> No.10924062
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>>10924039
...the fact that Skullgirls had 8 characters was, without a doubt, the shittiest part about skullgirls.

Don't sit here and pretend that 8 characters is okay, it's lazy and shitty.

Sure making all those sprites is a lot of work, but making anything is a lot of work. You should know what you're in for. You should want to provide a better experience than 8 fucking characters.

Don't be such tools. If they were making the game just for themselves they could do whatever they want, but others are going to play this.

>> No.10924064

>>10924062
>If they were making the game just for themselves they could do whatever they want
But that's exactly what ZUN does.
And I can respect that.

>> No.10924066

>>10924062
See this
>>10923977

>> No.10924067

>>10923946
Ever played vanilla Blazblue?

>> No.10924068

>>10924064
>what ZUN does
>what ZUN
>ZUN

I mean, I think most can agree ZUN is the man.

But this is more than ZUN.

>> No.10924070

Is it wrong that I'm disappointed about the roster even though I don't play the fighting games?

>> No.10924072

>>10924062
Skullgirls had 8 characters because it was made by an indie company, and even with those 8 had multiple delays to finish them.

You're just completely unreasonable.

>> No.10924076

>>10924066
As someone who loved Blazblue, played constantly with some of the top Arakune's at their houses...

I liked no characters in the original Blazblue off the bat. Except Hazama, but he wasn't playable then.
I settled for psycho robots, ie: Nu.
Slightly begrudgingly but only because people would bitch at me.

Blazblue got a lot better the more characters it added.
Character=Options=Great!

>> No.10924078

>>10924062
But why so many characters?

Most of the fighter that have large rosters are

a) From large companies
b) Reused from previous games
c) Pallete swaps
d) All of the above.

I would rather have 8 fighters with distinctive fighting styles (and animations!) than having 40+ characters with at least 5 of them being Ryu with a different looking head (lol MvC) or pallette swap (lol Mortal kombat).

>> No.10924079

>>10924062
Just knowing it is a lot of work to make sprites doesn't lower the amount of work it takes to actually do it. You can't just make sprites for 20 characters unless you are willing to spend that much money for artists who can all draw in that exact style you want. You still have to do everything else like the actuall programming and balancing too. You don't just shit out new characters for fighting games.

>> No.10924084

>>10924072
So unreasonable, wanting nice things and believing in those who can give them to me.

The nerve of me!

Don't be such a door mat, anon. Man up, consume like a champ. Have opinions and demands! It's okay!
It makes you not a beta bitch :3

>> No.10924086

>>10923946
At least 9 counting with the final boss, if not 10 because ZUN felt like it (like how Iku out of nowhere in SWR).

>> No.10924092

>>10924076
Nobody would disagree with more characters, we could get a few more if you're willing to wait another year.

>> No.10924098

>>10924061
She looks like Reimu-Marisa sized but now we can see her more similar to Koishi.

>> No.10924108

>>10924078
8 characters, unique as they may be, is still going to fall flat quickly I feel. I hate the rehashing as much as the next guy but I love me some options.
I'm not asking for 40+ characters, even 24, I'd be satisfied with 12 playable characters. DLC is a crock, but if they had 12 to start it'd be less salty.

>>10924079
Is everyone doing one job?
Is there not a cornucopia of fucking touhou characters to pick from?
Money is the only real point of your post.
And it's a valid one. I see it. I hear it.
I'll send them 20 bucks.
We should all send them 20 bucks, for better Touhou.

>>10924092
I absolutely am.

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If she's not playable in a game about faith wars, then she never will be playable ever.

My dreams are crushed.

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>>10924128
I know how you feel

>> No.10924137

>>10924128

I don't think she's even been playable in a fan game. Truly a sad fate. I'm not sure if I'd count stuff like being a Shikigami in DoD or whatnot.

>> No.10924136

>>10924108
>I absolutely am.

Why not play it now and then play the sequel in a year with more characters?

>> No.10924150

>>10924136
It's put up or shut up.
And in the end, it's always shut up.

Lol, despite all my objections this is ultimately what was going to happen.
I knew what I was in for the second I picked up a Touhou game.
>>10924131
;-;

>> No.10924154

This is reality. Touhou games don't make millions and Tasofro are not big like Capcom because they made some fangames as well. If they invest all their money just in a Touhou game, they'd be bankrupt at the end of the year. There is no market for those games anywhere other than with nerds in Japan itself since ZUN blocks everything.

>> No.10924156

>>10924108
Iamp launched with 10 characters, 1 more added later through a patch. We have 8 already and thats all they're revealing. Theres still probably 1 or 2 hidden characters as bosses. You had to unlock iku & tenshi in SWR. You had to unlock Utsuho & Suwako in soku. There was no pre-release info on any of those either.

People have been saying since the reveal that there wouldn't be more than 10 due to the new sprite work.

If this game "falls flat" its going to be because of the shoddy gameplay, not the roster.

>> No.10924158

It will probably add character in future patches. I still find Nitori and Koishi too weird, not that i don't like them, but they feel so out.
Well, time to main Marisa.

>> No.10924168

It's hard enough just trying to master one character anyway.

>> No.10924174

>>10924168

I think the point is, more variety means higher chances of finding a character you really want to play as. Not only that, but there's a larger variety of enemies to face. Not being able to pick a character because you don't have too much interest in the cast sucks.

>> No.10924184

>>10924174
>Not being able to pick a character because you don't have too much interest in the cast sucks

That's what happens in most of the Touhou games unless you like Reimu or Marisa the most.

>> No.10924187

>>10924174
Glad I already have my character in Nitori.

>> No.10924199
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Mokou never to be playable.

She was like made for fighting games though! It's so tragic.

>> No.10924202

>>10924199
>inb4 hax code

>> No.10924207

>>10923887
Koishi

>> No.10924205

>>10923845
That's apparently over-saturated gray which somehow looks brown because alphes' new style makes him use weird color shadows. Koishi's hair is supposed to be light-green but she looks full blonde in that portrait. It looks great on her though.

>> No.10924215

>>10924205
You can tell by looking at her eyebrows.

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>>10924187
Byakuren was sure to get in so I have no complaints, but I feel so bad for Moriya shrine fans right now.

>> No.10924220

Why is Futo a loli? She never looked more loli than anyone else to me.

I guess Alphes really just is another fan- artist.

>> No.10924223

>>10924220
>fan- artist
That interpretation may vary. "Shitty" is more like it, same goes to ZUN.

>> No.10924227

>>10924220
Yeah, that bothers me a lot.
Nitori and Koishi were supposed to be loli, but Futo? That came out of nowhere.
Somebody remotely skilled with photoshop should try to shrink Futo's head a little so that she looks more mature (she has the same height as Marisa in that picture after all)

>> No.10924235

>>10924184

I grew attached to the normally playable stage 5 characters so usually I don't have that problem. I was playing so many characters it was crazy in Soku, and IaMP and SWR was decent for me as well. HM is pretty much despair for me. I usually use Reimu and Marisa as secondary characters for flavor, I don't really want to main them. I kinda wanted Futo but her playstyle seems like a type I wouldn't enjoy very much.

>> No.10924234

>>10924174
Even though I like a lot of the characters in HM so far, I'll probably have to go with Marisa anyway because she's easy and scrub friendly.

The only time I've been able to competently use a non-main character was in Melty Blood.

>>10924220
Supposedly, http://www.pixiv.com/users/388930 this guy is doing spritework for some of the characters. Looking at his pixiv, he has done sprites before, and the style looks very similar. Might explain why there are so many lewd legs in HM.

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>>10924217
Meh, I fine with it. Moriya is above the squabbles of the two worst factions in the series.

>> No.10924244

>>10924220
>Futo a loli
He runs everything past ZUN, that's how ZUN wanted it.

>> No.10924245

>>10924227
I did a photoshop of her like that in the last thread. I'm not by my computer now though so can't repost.

>> No.10924250

I have no idea of who I'll main, since nothing has convinced me yet. Maybe Ichirin because fists, but I dunno.

Who would you main, and who would you choose for shits and giggles?

>> No.10924253

>>10924244
Do you have a source stating this? Because I'd love to see it.

>> No.10924255

>>10924250
it's already set in stone. the only one of those characters i'll ever want to play is hijirin.

>> No.10924272

>>10924250

I guess I'm going for Miko so I can be the emperor. I'd play Byakuren if I liked her more because of the melee emphasis but I don't care for her very much. I'm not very good when it comes to weird movements like teleports either, it's why I never got good with Remi.

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>>10924250
>Who would you main, and who would you choose for shits and giggles?

Nitori to main, and Miko because that cape is amazing.

>> No.10924280

>>10924250
Probably Hijiri or Ichirin for serious main.
Miko for shits and giggles, because that cape is irresistible.

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today is the day

>> No.10924288

I know nothing will stop people from dreaming, but we're done with character speculation, right? I mean, it'll be Mamizou, right?

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>>10924245
Then I kinda wasted my time doing this.

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>>10924281
But she was already added as a playable character! Happiest day of my life!
Hahahahahaha!

>> No.10924298

>>10924293
Damn she look weird

>> No.10924305

>>10924298
You mean normal.

>> No.10924303

Chen would have been nice.

>> No.10924304

>>10924293
That's not loli, that's revised proportion.
Good job.

>> No.10924307

>>10924303
chen pls

>> No.10924314

>>10924304
you mean not not loli

>> No.10924316

>>10924303
Chen should be a leader faction with Cirno and Flandre as her subordinates :D Would be epic for the win. Honk.

>> No.10924321

>>10924316
Disregard those. I want Kyouko.

>> No.10924328

>>10924321
whose kyoko, is she sakuya's pad?
china china chuugoku janai~!

>> No.10924330

>>10924321
I want to see her and Mystia playing in a fighting stage. Don't care if it makes sense or not.

>> No.10924334

>>10924253
I don't think ZUN ever really commented on anything related to the art in the fighting games. The only thing that's sometimes brought up is that whole stripes thing with Patchouli.

But ZUN also chose Aki Eda to draw SSIB and praises that art so i really don't think he would stop Alphes or be mad just for drawing Futo like that. He probably only steps in if something really goes against his wishes. Thinking he doesn't look at the art at all would be pretty weird though. It's for his games after all.

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>>10924303

>> No.10924339

>>10924330
They better use the power of the band to gather faith...with punk.

>> No.10924340

>>10924174
>Not only that, but there's a larger variety of enemies to face.
Mainly this.
Anyone remember the Umineko fighter? The main problem with the game was that the fights were the same all the time because of the lack of characters. HM still has the card of secret new characters, let's hope there are 2 of them. Umineko fighter has only 8 characters and no unlockeable stuff, it was too easy to get bored with it.

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>>10924250
>Who would you main?

Miko, all the way, the motherfucking emperor of the universe

>Who would you choose for shits and giggles?

I bet Koishi has a very tricky gameplay, so i'll probably choose her


Is there a list with the specials mechanics for every character?

I dont even know what are Reimu's Ying yang balls supposed to do. Is it warping from one side of the screen to the other or am i missing something else?

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>>10924316
>Chen should be a leader faction with Cirno and Flandre as her subordinates

The sounds pretty awesome.

>> No.10924361

>>10924348
I keep thinking about this whenever I hear Miko's new title. www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ1WyBGG_Vw<wbr>

>> No.10924370

>>10924340
Remember though, the umineko fighter was a pair fighter. So every match used 4 characters out of the 8.
Currently we almost have as many as iamp. Meiling was added later there.

>> No.10924372

>>10924361
Is ZUN a Queen's fan, I wonder?

>> No.10924381

>>10924361
Yesssss !!!

I thought the same thing

>> No.10924378

>>10924372
Wouldn't surprise me, ZUN has good taste.

>> No.10924399

How does ZUN always manage to pick the worst artists from an ocean of great ones?

>> No.10924403

>>10923958
Team Shanghai Alice has made like, twenty Touhou games and it's still a small company.

>> No.10924401

I can't wait to see Koishi's legs

>> No.10924406

Futo is so fucking cute it drives me crazy

>> No.10924405

>>10924399
That's the hallmark of Touhou games. The arts are ugly they're noticeable

>> No.10924411

>>10924399
IaMP/SWR were alright. And most of the print works got nice artists.

>> No.10924410

Why does ZUN make these faggots' fan games canon, anyway? Is he going to canonize Super Marisa Land next?

I can only assume it's because he wanted a fighting game but didn't know to make or draw for one, but there's no reason it had to be official. I doubt he desperately wanted to tell the story of "EoSD Happens Again" or "Big Robot Visits Gensokyo" that badly.

>> No.10924413

>>10924399
He has gotten better in terms of manga at least. I will never understand what he was thinking when chosing the early artists.

>> No.10924414

>>10924410
Collaborating with a doujin group to make an official game is not the same as retroactively canonizing a fangame.

>> No.10924415

>>10924410
We get new canon lolis, don't you dare complain.

>> No.10924424

>>10924410
I just treat them as side stories.

>> No.10924421

>>10924399
His idea of good arts is skewed or bizarre. He thinks people like (or get used to) his arts so people will like what he likes. The alcohol destroyed most of his right brain.

>> No.10924431

>>10924370
Ah, indeed, the 4 characters per match really killed it. And yes, it will probably have updates with more characters later. I think this is the new SWR, we'll have the Soku of this too.

>> No.10924429

>>10924421
>He thinks people like (or get used to) his arts so people will like what he likes.
It's more like he likes what he likes, and doesn't give a shit if you don't.

>> No.10924436

>>10924399
He simply doesn't want anyone to overshadow him.

>> No.10924437

>>10924434
TENSHI NOT CANON

TENSHI NOT CANON

>> No.10924434

>>10924410
I think you should take of your purist goggles. ZUN works on those games as well. This isn't just Tasofro making a random game and ZUN suddenly later saying that it's now a numbered Touhou game.

>> No.10924441

>>10924281
conflict breeds jealously.

parsee confirmed for ultimate boss in HM.

draw it weebs

>> No.10924445

>>10924199
I think it was mentioned alongside with Flandre, that she would be too overpowered, aka her immortality. Though I don't see why that's a problem, because she will stop fighting if she can't take anymore hits.

>> No.10924443

>>10924437
Tenshi is in DS. Try again.

>> No.10924444

>>10924288

Unless it was a red herring.

So yeah it'll be Mamizou.

>> No.10924453
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>>10924410
ZUN works on these games as well you know, creates the new characters, and is the writer.

Why would you want Suika not canon?

>> No.10924447

>>10924399

I like Hirasaka's chubby style. That's about it though.

>> No.10924451

>>10924443
I never unlocked stage ten.

I suck.

>> No.10924454
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10924454

Futo canon loli

>> No.10924457

>>10924443
I never unlocked stage ten. I suck.

>> No.10924462

>>10924454
>Treating other people's, specially Alphes', drawings as official

>> No.10924464

>>10924457
stay free scrub

>> No.10924468

>>10924462
who u quot?

>> No.10924466

The only people actually complaining about the small roster are actually trying to whine about how their favorite didn't make it. It's fine to be upset, but don't soil other people's opinion of the game because of something so trivial.

>> No.10924471

>>10924227

Futo has always been "somewhat" loli in her fanarts. Seriously, take a look at themrom the middle pages of Futo's gallery pixiv or booru and check for yourself.

>> No.10924478

You guys are too influenced by fanart like secondaries.

>> No.10924482

Nitori wa chiisai!

>> No.10924489

>>10924478
I know, right? In canon Satori has really short arms, Sakuya has no knees and Reimu is a zombie. No one gets it right.

>> No.10924501

>>10924471
Her portrayals have been quite mixed in fan-arts. Some make her loli, either for humor because of her personality, and others consistently regardless of the setting. But generally she's been about the same same size as Reimu hasn't she? Besides, I wouldn't call Alphes' Futo "somewhat" loli. She's basically the most loli of all of them in the picture.

>> No.10924515

its really expensive to make fighters. like REALLY expensive. I'm not exactly happy there is no Moriya rep at all, but I'd be satisfied with 9 or 10 characters. Kanako pls

>> No.10924516
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>>10924489
Reimu looks fine.

>> No.10924517

>>10924334
I'm not saying he doesn't look at the art. I'm saying that there's nothing that states that he's not giving most artists completely free hands to do with his characters whatever they feel is right. ZUN seems like a pretty chill guy, after all. Personally though, I just feel that Alphes made the wrong choice in this case, and I feel that he has been more influenced by other fan-artists than what he had by ZUN original art. I feel that this is somewhat problematic.

>> No.10924522

>>10924516
she looks like a dork

>> No.10924525
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10924525

>>10924482
Especially if this is any judge, she's smaller than Marisa.

>> No.10924529

>>10924522
A cute one.

>> No.10924530
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>>10924293
Here's mine, if you wanted to see it.
Not sure if I went overboard redrawing part of her hair and face to give her the doya-look though.

>> No.10924532

>>10924525
That height chart is all fucked.

>> No.10924542

>>10924517
I don't think Alphes is that influenced by what other fan-artists draw when it comes to official art considering how he draws characters. He draws Yuyuko and Hijiri super busty in his own art but for the games he draws them normal. Going by standard fan-art for Yukari she should have been busty as all hell in IAMP and SWR too.

>> No.10924537

>>10924516
Aplhes now draws tiny short arms.
ZUN now draws huge arms.

COINCIDENCE? TOUHOU IS SPLITTING.

>> No.10924551

>>10924516
Thats's because she's cured now. During MOF she was looking for a cure for zombie skin in Moriya Shrine and found it. Her hair looks shitty though now.

>> No.10924545

>>10924516
Is it just me or did ZUN attempt to give Reimu somewhat of a chest.

>> No.10924546

>>10924530
She just looks like she has a lazy eye.

>> No.10924556

>>10924551
Curse of the zombies.

>> No.10924562

>>10924551
Damn chemo

>> No.10924573
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10924573

>>10924478
I have to agree with you, I thought everyone can just use their imagination to see how beautiful the touhous are like they used to in the danmaku version.

>> No.10924623

>>10924542
I'm not aware of how he draws the characters outside of the games, so I can't really comment regards of that. It's hard to say how influenced someone really is when it comes to something like this I guess, but looking at Futo only and comparing ZUN's Futo to Alphes' Futo it's quite obvious something happened there.

And even if Hijiri has smaller breasts here than in his other art they are still really big, especially when considering that in ZUN's art basically no-one has an emphasized chest ever.

>> No.10924628

>>10924525
Marisa is 4 feet tall? Is she part dwarf or did magic stunt her growth?

>> No.10924632

>>10924623
ZUN's art really isn't a golden standard that must be copied 100%. After all, if ZUN's art is the measure of all things every piece of art that shows Satori with normal arms is wrong and art of Hijiri always seem to forget her broken arm from UFO. Is Kasen the only character with a noticable chest in all of Touhou? Does Kasen not actually exists because there is no ZUN art of her?

>> No.10924644

>>10924632
Rinnosuke doesn't exist either.

>> No.10924650

>>10924632
I'm not saying that no-one is allowed to draw anything but ZUN art. Basically I am just disappointed with Alphes' choice to make Futo a loli. Why he did so, we don't know, but it's not outrageous to say maybe he was influenced by other fans. If it was me working on a collab using someone else's characters, I'd use their original art and ideas as a basis and work from there.

In the end though, it all boils down to opinions.

>> No.10924677

>>10924650
All Touhou are loli

>> No.10924681

>>10924677
Like Kasen and Rinnosuke, right?

>> No.10924685

>>10924681
Not canon

>> No.10924701

>>10924650
Well, 12.3 already did this by making Suwako loli, even though her art didn't look any younger than Kanako

And Chen would almost certainly look loli if she got art, even though she actually has one of the older/bitchier looking ZUN portraits

>> No.10924704

>>10924551
She still has zombie-like skin.

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>>10923891
The darker color on the top is the shadow caused by her hat.

Pfff


>>10923963
Seeing the game has such smooth animations, I wonder if they'll give her any kind of bounce.

But that would further prove they are indeed engrossed in fanservicing.
The in-game legs are already too lewd, obscene, indecent, improper, lascivious and vulgar.


>>10924062
It's not like its a commercial game.

>> No.10924717

>>10924685
lel nice one

>> No.10924718

>>10924701
She's already small in PMISS and SWR sprites. Even that one e-mail everyone likes to quote says that Chen is among the smaller characters.

>> No.10924719
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10924719

Futo has always been small.

Take a look at this ingame shot, you can see the size discrepancy between Futo and the others.

>> No.10924721

>>10924719
make it bigger

>> No.10924723

>>10924721
Enhance

>> No.10924725
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10924725

>>10924719

Shit posted the wrong one, here's a bigger shot.

>> No.10924733

>>10924725
Could have just linked to the card
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3Q_Ra5GPBA

Futo a short

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>>10924705
>Seeing the game has such smooth animations, I wonder if they'll give her any kind of bounce.

I bet it

>> No.10924737

>>10924701
Yes, indeed.
It's problematic because these sort of things are bound to exist in abundance whenever someone who's not ZUN makes art in an official work. That's why I said it boils down to opinions, because we are bound to see this as a problem only when there's something that we personally don't like.

I still think it's for the best if co-artists of official works work mainly using ZUN's work as a reference, though.

>> No.10924742

>>10924719
STG sprites are a poor way of measuring height, to be honest. Going by that logic, Reimu is a gnome.

Having said that, I do believe Futo is smaller than her allies.

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>>10924718
Not to mention.

>> No.10924751

>>10924732
She's got a noticeable chest. Oh she's growing up.

>> No.10924754

>>10924725
>>10924733
They all look about the same size to me...

>> No.10924760

>>10924705
>But that would further prove they are indeed engrossed in fanservicing.
If they do that I'd be mad but mostly sad.
But it's probably for the best to try not to care too much.

>> No.10924769

>>10924737
>I still think it's for the best if co-artists of official works work mainly using ZUN's work as a reference, though.

Doesn't that mean all loli?

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>>10924705
>filename

>> No.10924774

>>10924754

Futo goes up to Miko's shoulder. Try pinching her for measurement and place your fingers beside Miko and Tojiko.

>> No.10924784
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10924784

jiggly byakuren will fix everything wrong with this game

>> No.10924793

>>10924774
Doesn't she just look that much shorter because her shoes are dark and blend with the background?

>> No.10924798

>>10924784
Once the game is out this will be the main thing people will focus on to hate. Touhou is ruined! Breasts in Touhou?! ZUN sold out! How can this be?! Game goes against ZUN's wishes!

>> No.10924805
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10924805

This roster size man...

>> No.10924809

>>10924798
What about Sanae already?

>> No.10924817

>>10924809
That's more Moriya in general than just Sanae. Besides, people already went crazy because of the legs in the demo so everything that can even be slightly considered fanservice will be the main target. After all, a true fan must hate fanservice of any kind.

>> No.10924828

Legs.

>> No.10924830

>>10924809
>>10924817
Or did you mean Sanae's breasts in the old game and not her absence from this game? Because that's old news already and people won't remember it anyway. Also less noticable with the old sprites.

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>>10924809

>> No.10924836
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It's not like I really care.

>> No.10924844

>>10924830
Sanae's breast.

>> No.10924845
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10924845

Anon, females of different ages tend to show seondary sexual characteristics. Why oppose this simple fact of life?

>> No.10924843

>>10924817
>After all, a true fan must hate fanservice of any kind.

I know you're probably being sarcastic, but I scoff at the tryhards that really rage over the fact that Byakuren has breasts, or that the game shows (slightly) more leg than usual. As if secondaries are even going to be fucking playing this game instead of re-watching that terrible english dub Bad Apple video for the umpteenth time.

>> No.10924853

>>10924843
>english dub Bad Apple video

Dont tell they dared to do it...
Now im afraid of browsing youtube

>> No.10924860

>>10924843
Anyone is still listening to Bad Apple?

>> No.10924858

>>10924835
Post that What about me? picture from WAHH please.

>> No.10924862

>>10924046
all 2hu loli 2ndry

>> No.10924873

>>10924845
Flat chest is the only way.

>> No.10924879
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10924879

Yuugi has big breasts
Eirin has big breasts
Byakuren has big breasts

All my favorite Touhous and the best ones have been blessed with breasts.
Truly this is a wondrous occasion!

>> No.10924886

>>10924573
This. Diversity of interpretation is one of the hallmarks of Touhou.

>> No.10924891

>>10924879
>Eirin has big breasts

Evidence please.

>> No.10924892

Compared to more realistically proportioned art, everyone in OP looks more or less like a loli.

>> No.10924894
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10924894

I like how Byakuren's new outfit is simple and humble yet she still radiates her saintly-ness while having the image of a kung-fu master.

Miko's new regal look is probably fitting for her but I think she's trying too hard. Byakuren already had the cape thing going for her even before HM. So it feels like she's just copying her rival.

Also rooting for team Buddha.

>> No.10924907
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10924907

>>10924891
Please closely observe Eirin's chest.

>> No.10924906

>>10924892
Hijiri doesn't really look loli at all. She has an orange on her head which is pretty childish though.

>> No.10924908

>>10924894
She is simply trying to appeal. Notice how her power/self esteem suffers when people don't like her? Poor thing.

>> No.10924910

>>10924845
There's a difference between "having breasts" and having a huge melons with specifically developed physics.

Now, we haven't seen any of the new characters in-game yet, but just saying.

>> No.10924913

>>10924892
Byakuren certainly doesn't, not even a little bit.

>> No.10924915

>>10924894
I like Miko's new look but I agree it has this kind of "try hard" look to it. It fits her though. She's royalty and all.

I would have preferred Hijiri to look even more monk-like, but then she and Ichirin might look to similar so maybe it was for the best.

>> No.10924916

>>10924907
Okay, thank you.

Those are indeed large.

>> No.10924917

>>10923838

Koshi and Nitori having ANYTHING to do with religion

this games story mode is going to be stupid

>> No.10924919

>>10924910
According to the /jp/ breast experts any noticable chest is considered huge and way too big for normal people.

>> No.10924920

>>10924913
>>10924906
Maybe not, but the style is still pretty "deformed", isn't it?

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>>10924858

>> No.10924940

>>10924920
The art is at the border of deformed and normal which is why the arms and heads stand out so much. You still expect normal arms looking at the picture but they are already deformed. It's weird and probably also influenced by the fact that the SWR/IAMP art wasn't at this border and people expected that style again.

>> No.10924952

>>10924860
Memes get overused because people keep getting introduced to them. As long as Touhou is alive, Bad Apple will never truly fade out.

>> No.10924950

>>10924894

While I agree Miko's new look is kinda tryhard, it doesn't feel like she's copying Byakuren. She wanted this I'm the god damned ruler of the universe look and I think it worked in a sense, she picked the kind of cape that exudes that sort of aura. But maybe I'm biased because I'm playing as her.

>> No.10924968
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>>10924860
I do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Su8UOs0SFA

>> No.10924973

I checked the wiki for the new titles and
>The Advocate of the Eight Million
... they know what 八百万 means right? It's pretty elementary when it comes to Shinto.

>> No.10924982

>>10924973
Is this a Holocaust reference?

>> No.10924992
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10924992

>>10924894
I'm not sure that simply adding a few monk accessories makes a character qualify for "having the image of a kung-fu master". It's like she's now half princess, half nun, which could be excused if she didn't have her skirt.

Also, adding more things to Miko makes her seem a bit overembellished; having a cape and almost bare legs seems a bit contradictory, though it does add nicely to her colors.

>> No.10924994

>>10924952
Touhou is a meme itself.

>> No.10924991

>>10924982
No it refers to the "Eight Million" gods of Shinto. However, "Eight Millions" is a figurative number, it actual meaning is closer to "innumerable".

It's not easy to translate, but I hope they find a better phrasing.

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10925012

>>10924991
Oh. I remember that from a comic!

>> No.10925013

>>10924992
I wish her dress looked more like it was an easter-western fusion. The white-black works because that's what a lot of monks in Japan wear (?), I just wish the dress-elements were a tad more toned down. A different solution for the decoration in the front for example. I'm not sure if I'm explaining this right.

>> No.10925023

>>10924843
>that terrible english dub Bad Apple

Fuck you. Cristina did a good job.

>> No.10925036

>>10925023
Christina Aguilera? Is she an otaku too?

>> No.10925034

>>10925013
I think I understand.She simply needed a redesign instead of more stuff.
Or they could've left her as she was.

>> No.10925061
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>>10925036
No, Cristina Vee.

http://youtu.be/ABe4o099M8s

She is a truOTAKU though, because she does anime dubs and stuff.

>> No.10925067

>>10925034
Yeah, pretty much. They could have redesigned her dress more to fit the new accessories.

>Or they could've left her as she was.
I always thought that the dress she wore in UFO was supposed to symbolize that she was a sealed magician. It looks like she was tied up using all those white and black ropes all over her body. So I always imagined her wearing something different in her day-to-day life.

>> No.10925068

>>10924917
you mean FUN

>> No.10925079

>>10925061
Are you sure she is not just another attention whore?

>> No.10925086

>>10924992
Strange how no one brought up the height issue with Miko.

Here she looks shorter than Byakuren, although by just a bit.

>> No.10925088

>>10925061
kawaii ^^

>> No.10925098

>>10925086
I'd prefer it if she was even shorter myself.

>> No.10925103

>>10925086
>If their sizes appear to be different on the game screen than given above, it's because of
some mystic force like perspective, so pay it no mind. :-)

>> No.10925107

Byakuren's breasts!

>> No.10925106

>>10925103
Basically everyone is as tall as we want them to be. Yay?

>> No.10925109

>>10925103
:o Perhaps yewkaree is fooling around again?

>> No.10925111

>>10925107
Where are you looking!? Rude!

>> No.10925121

So this is it for the roster, beyond the final boss? Holy shit, such fail. I was expecting at least ONE interesting older character to get announced. Koshi? KOSHI?! This is more retarded than Suwako flapping her arms in SWR.

>> No.10925119

>>10925111
But they are so big.

>> No.10925125

>>10925121
>Suwako flapping her arms in SWR.
what's wrong with it?

>> No.10925130

>>10925121
lol wtf is a koshi

>> No.10925138

>>10925086
Im pretty much ok with Miko being just a little shorter than Hijiri

>> No.10925133

>>10925121
It's not known for certain. Though some stuff points into the direction that only Mamizou is still missing. There is also the chance that the names found in the code are not all since it was just the demo after all or that the last one changed. After all, a character named Rin would have been in EOSD if you just go by stuff in the code.

>> No.10925144
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>>10925130

>> No.10925150

>>10925121
Don't you dare insult the suwacoptor!

>> No.10925166
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>>10925121
>SWR
not UNL
do you even fighting games?

>> No.10925172

>>10925166
>UNL

Really?

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>>10925172
本当に
she was the boss of Sanae's route

>> No.10925183

>>10925172
Chase the Enigma of the Superdreadnought Guignol

>> No.10925185 [DELETED] 

>>10925172
It's like retards just can never realize that Unthinkable Natural Law is a shitty machine translation of a name that is a parody of the very first android automaton.
Hisoutensoku. from Gakutensoku.

>> No.10925189

>>10925183
post that Guignol Quest image please

>> No.10925222

>>10924530
Oh yes I really like it. You even fixed her face. If you had fixed her hair as well it would look perfect.

>> No.10925227
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10925227

8 characters? Sad, pathetic, & below standard. Even if they have 2 new characters that's low. Were still talking about only a 2d fighter here and zun should have a fairly large budget. We expect more from future releases, not less.

>> No.10925230

>>10925227
I'm sure ZUN is absolutely devastated that his decisions were not up to your expectations.

>> No.10925259

>>10925230
Poor standards hurt us all

>> No.10925267

>>10925227

Whole new art style meant starting from scratch which means less characters.

Also we're only likely to get one new character since it's look likely Mamizou is the other.

>> No.10925265

>>10925227
If you expected as many characters as SWR+Soku had then you must be very deluded.

>> No.10925277
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10925277

Am I the only one who is excited to play as Mamizou? Her animal-shaped danmaku will be delicious, I tell you!

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10925288

>>10925222
Thank you

>> No.10925289

>>10925277
I'm more annoyed that Mamizou gets thrown into everything while other new characters do nothing again.

>> No.10925286

lol even the third eye of koishi has the eyelashes...

>> No.10925287

Has Tasofro made any mention that there will be no more characters at this points? Why is everybody panicking over only 8 characters anyway?

>> No.10925294

>>10925287

Was on their twitter the other day that's it besides boss(es).

>> No.10925303

>>10925289
>Everything
which means a chapter in WaHH and a chapter in Forbidden Scrollery?
woooow I'm already sick of her!!!!!!! etc

>> No.10925298

>>10925287
>長々続いてきたキャラ紹介もコレで最後となるこいしです
http://www.tasofro.net/cgi-bin/tasoblo/index.html
Oh wait. No more characters.

>> No.10925300

>>10925287
They said no more reveals on their blog. This doesn't mean this is the final roster because IAMP, SWR and Soku didn't reveal the whole cast either. No idea why people think those will be all the characters.

>> No.10925305

>>10925294
Did they really specify the "besides boss(es)" part? I want to know.

>> No.10925384

>>10925305
Different anon, but I assume it's "boss(es)" because Japanese doesn't work the way English does. ボス could mean a boss, any boss, all bosses etc

>> No.10925402

>>10924628
She just hasn't hit puberty yet.

>> No.10925439

>>10925384
But did they really say "ボス"?

>> No.10925592

>>10925277
yes, mamizou a shit any 2hu would be more enjoyable to play

>> No.10925727
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>8 selectable characters

>> No.10925744

>>10925277
Just because they planned to make her at the time of the demo doesn't mean it actually happened.

>> No.10925751
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>>10925727
32 rushed characters is would've definitely been better.

>> No.10925753

>>10925727

Well if the placeholders are anything there's still two more and they might have playable versions.

>>10925744

Everything else about the placeholders has been right thus far though so I'm not so sure man.

>> No.10925760

>>10925751
Fuck yes, I love fighting games full of glitches.

All I want is to embody a 2hu for a while anyway

>> No.10925783

>>10925760
Seriously, if you wnt 250 playable characters, there's still mugen.

>> No.10927278

>>10925061
she`s hawt

>> No.10927948

>>10925298

Aww yeah okuu in the background. Though I'd rather her be playable again.

>> No.10929312

>>10927278
>Hawt
Stop, even ironically saying that makes you look like a faggot.

>> No.10929639

>>10929312
am i on /v/?

>> No.10929658

>>10929639
No, /jp/

If you look at the title in your browser tab it says the name of the board you are on.

>> No.10932273

>>10924445
it's not like you murder your enemy in any of the touhou fighting games. mokou's immortality only stops her from dying, it doesn't give her invincibility or impenetrable shield of guaranteed victory.

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1 day to go guys.

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