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(10 months for German whose laptop had 35,000 images of sexual content with children)

German resident Markus Balzer was arrested at the New Zealand Christchurch Airport on March 6 after customs discovered "manga" images of child sexual abuse on his laptop. Balzer explained to customs that he is an author who receives images for making electronic books for retail sale. His laptop contained over 35,000 images compiled into 570 electronic books.

Balzer plead guilty to importation charges and was sentenced to 10 months in prison on Thursday. Customs' Acting Group Manager Investigations and Response Shane Panettiere said that any kind of images depicting child sexual abuse, real or drawn, is prohibited in New Zealand.

"Whether it is an actual child or a cartoon, every image depicts a child being sexually abused, degraded, exploited and tortured and nothing excuses this offense," Panettiere said. "The reality of child sexual exploitation imagery is grim enough, but undertaking a commercial enterprise around this activity is horrific."

Ronald Clark, a New Zealand man, was sentenced in April to three months in jail for possessing and viewing Japanese anime that depicted fantasy creatures having sex. The characters' depictions as young, child-like creatures led to concerns by officials that the anime could illicit real-world child abuse.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-05-17/tourist-jailed-in-new-zealand-for-child-abuse-manga-images

>> No.10905029

>>10905022
Yes yes, we get it, commonwealth countries are fucktards, let it go.

>> No.10905040

>The characters' depictions as young, child-like creatures led to concerns by officials that the anime could illicit real-world child abuse.

Wait a fucking second, isn't it the opposite?

>> No.10905041

>>10905029
Why let it go when we could talk about how normals a shit for two hundred posts?

>> No.10905045

>"The reality of child sexual exploitation imagery is grim enough, but undertaking a commercial enterprise around this activity is horrific."
Drawing pictures is more horrific than actually killing someone.

>> No.10905052

why isn't it a crime to have images of children getting murdered. isnt murder worse than rape. help plese Id ont understnad

>> No.10905051

>>10905022
thank go i don't live in that crazy fucking shit hole.
they sound fucking nuts.

>> No.10905055

>>10905041
normals a shit

>> No.10905057

As a person who lives in New Zealand and travels outside the country frequently, I wonder why foreigners have their laptop checked. I've never had mine checked.

>> No.10905058

at least he wasn't labeled a sex offender like the canadian guy

>> No.10905064

>>10905055
A SHIT

>> No.10905066

>>10905052
No, rape is worse than murder nowadays.

>> No.10905078

>>10905066
Lots of people who are murdered had it coming so people like them better.

>> No.10905075

>>10905051
i just wonder how many children you have raped sicko or just how many you are planning to

i'm going to bore deep into your deranged mind and crack you like a walnut.

>> No.10905084

>>10905022
Wait a minute, how they fuck can they just check your labtop. they cant fucking do that.

>> No.10905094

>>10905022
>, was sentenced in April to three months in jail for possessing and viewing Japanese anime that depicted fantasy creatures having sex. The characters' depictions as young, child-like creatures led to concerns by officials that the anime could illicit real-world child abuse.
He went to fucking jail for viewing a fucking anime? just how fucked up are these people? where do the real criminals go?

>> No.10905105
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10905105

This is why you should only live in Japan or America!

>> No.10905106

Shit's ridiculoid. I like how indignant they got over a bunch of drawn pictures. Normals gonna normal.

>> No.10905111

You can get five years for having a joint on you in Japan.

Every nation has its shit laws.

>> No.10905117

>>10905094
The real criminals are still free because the pedophile threat is apparently greater than any other.

>> No.10905121

People who think fantasies make healthy, regular people commit crimes disgust me as an artist.

>> No.10905129

>>10905094

If it's New Zealand the real criminals are probably in a gang and stabbing people.

>> No.10905125

>>10905075
what the fuck.
I dont known what your talking about but as someone whos not into rape or loli, its fucking retarded to go to jail for viewing a fucking picture. it has to be one of the most retarded ways of going to jail. Also that got who got into jail from watching anime, now thats fucked up.Why are these places in the world so retarded? don't they have actual criminals to go after? Also how the fuck can they just look on his labtop like that, inst that against the law?

>> No.10905128

>>10905022
>possessing and viewing Japanese anime that depicted fantasy creatures having sex
Ironic that they use the words "fantasy creatures," which essentially exonerates the images from being realistic or human in any way.

Sorry, NZ bros. That's some bullshit.

>> No.10905134

>>10905105
>or America!

Bad news for you, dude.

>> No.10905132

>>10905111
thats actually good, keeps you drugy shits out of japan. makes japan a clean place.

>> No.10905137

>>10905134
Loli is legal here though.

>> No.10905144

"Whether it is an actual person or a movie, every video depicts a person being shot, stabbed, exploded and tortured and nothing excuses this offense," Faggot said. "The reality of violent murder imagery is grim enough, but undertaking a commercial enterprise around this activity is horrific."

I really hope New Zealand doesn't allow any violent movies into their country, otherwise they look REALLY embarrassing right now.

>> No.10905141

>>10905137
Fucking Vermont

>> No.10905143

>>10905137
It's not. Bush II outlawed it. Life is such suffering.

>> No.10905149

>>10905134
we aren't retarded like this at all. America is actually safer with japanese stuff than the rest of the world.

>> No.10905163
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10905163

>live in new zealoli
>be a 4 year old girl
>dads gonna help give me a bath
>police bust in
>they handcuff his ass for touching me inappropriately
>discover he has baby photos of me in albums and picture frames all over his house
>"ultimate disgusting" says a new zealoli officer
>"i dont know where these sickos come from"
>dad is sent to jail for 100 life sentences, then sentenced to hell
>tfw no dad

>> No.10905156

If live in any of the commonwealth countries and I choose to draw a simple nude image of a loli would I still be arrested?

>> No.10905159

>>10905143
It is, I haven't had any shit for it and I've imported manga and taken my laptop on trips.

>> No.10905168

>>10905134
>>10905141
you see this wouldn't of happened in America because nobody is going to FORCE you too give them your labtop. thats just not legal here and nobody cares what porn you have on your pc in america at a fucking airport. they are looking for bombs not cartoon porn.

>> No.10905169

>>10905163
Who are you quoting?

>> No.10905174

Please help me make a bingo board for these threads. I think it would be a big hit.

- argument over whether loli is legal in america
- argument over whether loli is legal in canda
- comparison to violent movies and video games
- questioning why you don't have time to go after real criminals
- referencing that one dutch police guy who said "prosecuting drawn CP is a waste of time"
- "drawn CP is bad" quote dump
- anti-pedophile crusading troll
- outrage over how normals can be so intolerant (FREE SQUARE)

Please help me fill out the rest, I need fifteen more or so.

>> No.10905182

>>10905163
>grow up without a dad
>turn into a little slut
>fuck grown men on a daily basis

Oh le irony.

>> No.10905179

>>10905168
Also you know how long it would take to check everyones fucking labtop at a airport? I mean what the fuck?

>> No.10905183

>>10905105
Only places worth living anyway.

>> No.10905188

>>10905174
Someone says lolicons and pedophiles are the same thing

Mention of the book Lolita

>> No.10905186

>>10905174
- person who points out the repetitive, predictable nature of the threads

>> No.10905187
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10905187

america is truly the land of the free

>> No.10905189

>>10905159
I've shit on public property and got away with it before, but that doesn't mean it was legal.

>> No.10905192

>>10905174
Well done.

/thread

>> No.10905193

>>10905186
pwned

>> No.10905204

>>10905144
have you seen any of peter jackson's 80s stuff?

ahahaha.

>> No.10905216

>>10905125
yeah, but having like 50000 pictures that are all organized, tended. that's kinda different shit. otherwise i'd agree with you on that it is crazy to be sent to prison for just seeing some.

anyway... it's clear that someone who has 50000 pics of drawn or real underage pornography has some issues. you would have to be pretty dumb to claim otherwise.

>> No.10905222

>>10905216
>it's clear that someone who has 50000 pics of drawn or real underage pornography has some issues. you would have to be pretty dumb to claim otherwise.
HOW NORMALS CAN BE SO INTOLERANT

>> No.10905223

>>10905216
Do you even read the article? It was his job to turn those images into books to sell.

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10905233

>>10905216
>it's clear that someone who has 50000 pics of drawn or real underage pornography has some issues

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10905234

>>10905144
havent you heard

rape is worse than murder

child rape is worse than spitting in the eyes of god

drawn child porn is worse than satan

>> No.10905228

>>10905022
I've never traveled outside of America. What is "customs" And how did they get permission to search his laptop?

Did he not have a password?

>> No.10905231

>>10905125
>Also how the fuck can they just look on his labtop like that, inst that against the law?
I think it's actually standard for most developed nations now, U.S. included. So if you're ever traveling, do a clean wipe. Some guy got a little prison time in Canada because of some questionable anime pictures.

>> No.10905236

>>10905222
there now, relax. i'm not here to harm you.
>>10905223
then why don't they send his manager to jail. i did not read it but it makes everything even more nonsensical.

>> No.10905248

>>10905174
>argument over whether loli is legal in canda
Loli isn't legal in Canada.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_pornography_laws_in_Canada
See Gordon Chin for a case which is appropriate for OPs case.

As said above, living in Commonwealth nations is suffering.

>> No.10905242

>>10905231
This is not true, I've traveled to America a couple of weeks ago, and they didn't check anything, our kiddie porn is safe in America, friend.

>> No.10905243

>>10905216

Except the report clearly shows it was 570 electronic books which means that they'd have to all been manga pages which he then sells. Which means his business was legitimate and he probably only got the 4 months for actually pleading guilty out of fear of losing the court battle which he probably wouldn't have due to the argument he could being that loli/anime is detached enough from what reality is you cannot truly compare it to a depiction of a real child and even if you could that is still not grounds to convict him on the account of it being a victim less crime.

>> No.10905244

>>10905236
>then why don't they send his manager to jail.
Because the guy arrested was in New Zealand, not his manager. He went into a country where it was illegal. They can't do shit to his manager because his manager is in a civilized country.

>> No.10905245

>>10905168
then the solution is clear. bomb new zealand airports, fix loli problem.

>> No.10905246

>>10905216
That still doesn't make a difference if is all drawn cartoons, its still a fucking a cartton its not fucking real its lead and paper.. if its real then thats a different story which i cant comment on. I mean they are still pictures and i feel sorry of them for going to jail because of the way their mind works. in the end they really shouldn't be going to jail and going to jail is not going to change anything, its not gonna fix the person at all its just hate towards that person for not understanding him. As long as he doesn't do anything too a little girl, hes actually doing the best he can do. Its not hurting anyone.

>> No.10905255

>>10905236
>i did not read it but it makes everything even more nonsensical.
That aptly sums up "child protection laws".

>>10905242
I'm pretty sure it's random checking. It's illegal to import loli porn because it violates obscenity laws, but the chances that you'll get caught are pretty slim.

>> No.10905249

>>10905231

Do you know if they inspect USB sticks and external hard disks as well?

>> No.10905252

>>10905242
Just because you managed to smuggle lolicon pornography into American doesn't mean it's legal. It just means you weren't caught.

>> No.10905263

>>10905255
>It's illegal to import loli porn because it violates obscenity laws
I'd had to pick up shit at customs, I got some dirty looks but they couldn't arrest me.

>> No.10905261

>>10905231
No, i dont think in America they are allowed to do that without a warrant, we have fucking rights in America.

>> No.10905260

>>10905231
You pretty much gotta be on a watch list in order for these things to happen, they whip so many people through customs most people only get a cursory glance to make sure they haven't disguised their laptop as a bomb

All I did was stuff the best of my collection into a Truecrypt container and uploaded it to dropbox. When I got to the hotel I downloaded dropbox and then the file

>> No.10905264

>>10905255
Take a shower, don't wear an anime teeshirt, and put on deotorant. They won't suspect that you have loli on your computer so they won't check you.

>> No.10905271

>>10905264
I wore a baseball cap and an ugly hawaiian shirt, the only attention I got was from black people trying to sell me knock off raybans

>> No.10905269

>>10905252
Mate, don't make me laugh, I travel to America more than 10 times a year, and they've never bothered my laptop. Plus how would they check anyways? Don't be dumb.

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10905273

>>10905094
Yep. He went to jail for doing pretty much nothing.

Well, there was that one anon who traced some real pedo's IP's and placed them on open sites for the police to find, only to get his appartment rushed by 12 armed police officers the next day.

Dunno what happend to him.
Pretty much shows us how retarded this world is.

>> No.10905281

>>10905269
Just because they didn't check doesn't mean it's not illegal.

>Plus how would they check anyways?
They would ask you to show them your laptop.

I'm sorry the truth makes you laugh.

>> No.10905277

>>10905273
Well what that guy did is a violation of privacy, but whatever.

>> No.10905280
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10905280

hey dudes sorry to butt in but i have a question

i live in canada and lets say i wanted a loli onahole

will they arrest me if i request for the onahole to be taken out of the lewd original packaging and just kept in a plastic bag in a cardboard box? or will they assume i am just about ready to rape real children because i ordered an onahole with a loli body shape

>> No.10905282

>>10905255
loli is not illegal in America and if you were to get caught, which never happened, you wouldn't go to jail because its retarded going to jail for a picture.

>> No.10905293

>>10905260
>You pretty much gotta be on a watch list in order for these things to happen, they whip so many people through customs most people only get a cursory glance to make sure they haven't disguised their laptop as a bomb
That's good to hear, but it's still a good idea to err on the side of caution.

>>10905261
>we have fucking rights in America.
This is a laughable statement in post-9/11 America.

>>10905263
Was it loli? Because the PROTECT IP act would make it a federal crime. Obscenity is misdemeanor, I think, so maybe they didn't want to waste time pursuing.

>> No.10905289

>>10905281
How extensive would the search be?

I have my loli and porn file deep in about 10 folders filled with sub folders, I'm assuming this guy had it on his desktop or something.

>> No.10905292

>>10905282
>its retarded going to jail for a picture.

It happens all the time, see 3d loli

>> No.10905294

>>10905277
Not at all. Your IP is public info. You freely give it to any server you interact with.

>> No.10905295

>>10905289
How would I know? I've never had my computer searched for CP. I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to find out, though. Just wear that "fucking elementary school girls is the best" shirt through the airport line and I'm sure they'll pull you aside for additional questioning.

>> No.10905295,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>10905052
Because people kill children for pleasure. They will keep doing it even if you don't pay for the pictures.

On the other hand, people have sex with children for money. They don't actually enjoy it and will stop if you don't pay for CP.

No one actually pays for any of that stuff, though. The law is retarded.

>> No.10905295,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>10905295,1
In case someone doesn't get it, I was being sarcasting in the first two paragraphs.

>> No.10905295,3 [INTERNAL] 

>>10905022
>I FUCKING HATE YOU
I'll wash your mouth with soap, kid.

>> No.10905295,4 [INTERNAL] 

>>10905132
this

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