/jp/ - Otaku Culture

told you I'd do it

>>10825984
How do people use anki without getting bored instantly? Not being able to type in the answer is frustrating since i have to rely on how I feel instead of statistics from actually answering.

Pls no not again

Janai without a interrogation mark bothers me everytim

Can't discuss things now that it's hit the bump limit, you guys!

You shouldn't be bumping that thread anyway.

Here's a board where every thread has a "bump" limit of 1000 (or more, if you're feeling crafty):
>>>/lang/

Enjoy.

Reposting:
I've been doing heisig's remembering he kanji for a little more than a week now. I'm at ~200. I'm essentially going through the whole of jouyo kanji learning their meanings and then planning on doing the same thing over again but memorizing the onyomi and then going over hem one last time to memorize the kunyomi.

I doubt my abilities to memorize both prounciations, meanings, and the character all at once but I still wonder sometimes if this is a good approach...
Has anyone done it this way or has anyone gone about it in a faster way?

>>10826004
>Here's a board where every thread has a "bump" limit of 1000 (or more, if you're feeling crafty):
it's a dead board.

you are pretty gutsy

FUCK YOU

>>10826009
are you calling me fat?

>>10826004
Textboards only exist for moot showing that captcha is necessary
4chan is a IMAGEboard
画像掲示板 in Japanese

pls go a >>>/a/

>>10826000
> Not being able to type in the answer is frustrating since i have to rely on how I feel instead of statistics from actually answering.
I'm keeping the notepad open while doing the reps and type in the translations for the en=>ja sentence translations.

>>1082600
I just learned the ones from genki brute force after that wrote down what I came across reading shit.

>>10826017
no. /a/ is full of bullies

>>10826000
> Not being able to type in the answer is frustrating
Just add the function by yourself. It's not hard. Examine the card layout which the Tae Kim Clozed deck uses and implement it to your vocab deck.

This thread needs more sage.

I should be writing my essay for school but this thread keeps distracting me.

>>10826000
The Kanjidamage shared deck has that implemented.

>>10825974

>Isn't onyomi and kunyomi vocab?

If you could retain all of those readings from doing nothing but drilling kanji then you would have an easier time with pronouncing what you're reading, but you would still have no idea what any of the words mean and then you would have to start all over again and memorize vocab.

Spending more than a week or two on kanji is a waste of time. It's easier to just pick it up as you go while also learning vocab. Doing nothing but kanji reps will kill your motivation since it feels pointless and has very little value on its own.

>>10826028
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>>10826000
http://wanikani.com

>>10826043
What are some resources for learning vocab? Or do I have to be in Japan?

>>10826048
This is from the Tofugo guys right?
Do you know how Textfugu is?

>>10826062
text fug?

>>10826062
It's good for getting your foot in the door when it comes to Japanese, but other than that, it's not really worth the money.

Wanikani, on the other hand, is brilliant.

>>10826064
Anki

>>10826064

Just use one of the vocab decks from Anki. I like the Core 2000 decks since it has voice files.

Then as you go you can make your own custom deck for any of the characters that you have a particularly difficult time remembering.

No one should follow Heisig's method. It sucks.

>>10825984
2 years

i'm a quick learner but i'm lazy or depressed most of the time

also
>>>/lang/

>>10826064
google.com, resources are fucking everywhere

delete this

Ａｍ　Ｉ　ｊａｐａｎｅｓｅ　ｎｏｗ　？

>>10826082
>depressed most of the time

>>10826071
Should I use Wanikani if I already studied about 1000 Kanji with Kanjidamage?

>>10826082
>>>>/lang/
dead

>>10826086
fuck you bitch

>>10826086

Why is this thread still alive?

>>10826110
because you're a faggot steamed NEET that's only here for 2hu threads

>>10826087
Wouldn't really be worth it since you'd have to start over from square one.

>>10826110
To torture you <3

>>10826110
because it pertains to otaku culture

How can you get into wanikani beta?

>>10826134
go to the site and fill shit in and wait for an email

>>10826134
http://www.wanikani.com/signup

What's the difference between this Wanikani thing and Anki?

Is it just a prettier Anki?

>>10826154
>http://www.wanikani.com/signup
thanks. I'm a bit dumb

I never learned japanese. Too much work for too little gain.

I don't even know where to start I'm so afriad

>>10826185
>Too much work for too little gain
truOTAKU learn Japanese. Secondaries don't. Simple as.

Haven't learned it yet and I'm a slow and stupid learner. I just going over everything again and again using different resources. I grasped te form pretty quick though, its just words like "Desu" and particles, I don't really understand when to use it them and what implications they have for the sentence. This time though I'm learning kanji from the beginning, there's no point in learning hiragana but no kanji, because not what you're going to see.

>>10826192
so you didn't I'm sorry for you

>>10826198
#wow
#whoa

>>10826182
Anki is for help you memorize
Wanikani is for help you to be a crab crocodile

Does anyone here have any experience with using drugs to help you learn Japanese faster?

I've been using amphetamines to study for 8-10 hours each day, but the problem I'm having is that I absorb so much information that it all gets jumbled together by the next day and I retain very little.

What is the most efficient usage of 8-10 hours if I want to maximize my memory retention? Instead of charging through 700 or so cards a day should I lower it down to maybe 200 and just drill that in over and over again for 8-10 hours?

>>10826208
>drugs to help you learn Japanese faster
lol

>>10826208
what the fuck is wrong with you

>>10826208
Take adderall or something.

>>10826208
I smoked some grass, and it really helps me get in the mood for sitting around and doing nothing.

>>10826208
what amphetamines?

>>10826225
Thats not kawaii japanese drug though

There is already an anki thread, you know.
>>10814568

>>10826241
this is not an anki thread

>>10826245
Oh, my apologies. This must be the off-topic Japanese language shitposting thread, right?

I did about 500 Kanji using Heisig only to find out that I needed to actually learn the pronunciations for it to be useful. Now I'm just stalling waiting to give it another go.

>>10826241
please do not abuse the link feature. Also read the OP before commenting. Be ensured that a thread about learning the japanese language won't take any space away from you important "which 2hu would u do" threads.

>>10826253
That's ``fug''. Not ``do''. Please do not make the same mistake again in the future.

>>10826253
Please do not abuse the shitposting feature. Read the rules before posting. Does it say "Japanese language discussion board" somewhere in them? Oh, well look at that, they don't.

>>10826257
i will try. Thank you kind anon.

>>10826252

DO IT NOW! DO IT NOW OR I'LL BULLY YOU WITH MY WEENIE

I'LL MAKE YOU CRY
I SWEAR

>>10826268
Janny allows it so it's okay.

>>10826268

Is this thread or the previous one deleted, Hall Monitor?

#TOLD

#SHOTSFIRED

#DESTROYED

>>10826268
>>10826271 This. Why are you so mean today. Didn't you do your reps?

literally bitching about the most active thread on /jp/ right now when we don't even have 10 pages yet

just go make your ``x with youmu!'' shit thread and leave this one alone

Please do not abuse the please do not abuse feature.

>>10826275

People accomplishing something he can't makes him feel insecure.

>>10826279

Please do not abuse the please do not abuse the please do not abuse feature.

>>10826278
Just because it's active doesn't mean you can't bitch about it.

Meta threads, shit threads, and raid threads are some of /jp/'s fastest. We're slowly turning it into all three.

how i memorize kana

>>10826278
>``''

>>10826294

write 50 time

>>10826294

I wonder too. Are you supposed to write them?

I don't really intend to write characters, since I'll only ever be typing them, but is it necessary to learn them?

>>10826303
I never wrote them even once. Just repeat them and finally you will remember them.
Use http://www.realkana.com/

>>10826294
this >>10826300 or you will be punch in the cunt.

>>10826303

No, but its lazy not to. Plus, if you ever a real Japanese's handwriting, you won't have a clue what it says unless you can recognize the stroke order. But if you just want to type, then no, but in my opinion its the best way.

>>10826324

My handwriting is very, VERY bad even in English. I don't think I could conceivably do well at writing Japanese.

Why do people always think that an active thread means an invasion or crossboarders?

Most of /jp/ is in a state of constant lethargic boredom. We're all here because we have nothing else to do with our lives, but every thread is so boring that it's not worth posting in. When a topic comes up that manages to stir a little motivation into the sleeping otaku then everyone awakens from their slumber and piles in.

It's not crossboarders or invasions, it's just slumbering warriors awakening to the call of the otaku.

>>10826332

My handwriting is shit in English, I can hardly even spell. But because you're older and starting Japanese from scratch, you might not develop bad habits. Personally, I think what fucks our handwriting up is being taught cuneiform at a young age, it would be so much easier if everyone printed. Just follow the stroke order and you should be fine.

>>10826334

Your words make me think of /jp/ as a noble forest of ancient oak trees, stirred every once in a while by ents (shitposters) or loggers (crossboarders.)

>>10826334

>warriors

>>10826347
/jp/ is awesome!

>>10826334
The OP is using meme arrows, dude

>>10826402

Greening is /jp/ related.

>>10826402
He's quoting the previous thread.

>>10826334
/jp/ - My Blog

Stop this shitty epic trolling, and go back to /a/.

>>10826402

He's using them properly though. He's quoting the question that was asked in the OP of the original thread.

>Not learning how to handwrite Japanese
SHIGGY

>>10826357

Underground warriors and scholars. The otaku is a modern day monk.

what is even the point of learnignr adicals if they dont even matter really

why japanese cant be like hangul

>>10826417

I want to play eroge in his otakubunker!

>>10826428
>why japanese cant be like hangul
this would be so awesome. Stupid Japanese should finally adapt to a better system.

>>10826428
>>10826442
ignorant scum

>>10826445
Fun fact:

Everyone that isn't past the individual kanji grinding stage and haven't moved on to vocab thinks like this. Just ignore their stupidity and lack of experience and move on.

>>10826445
japanese are the ignorant one keeping such a bad system for tradition

make it so kanj pronounciatio follow actual rules

>>10826488
English doesn't need thousands of funny symbols though.

>>10826455
make it so englis pronounciatio follow actual rules

>>10826494
Yep.
Japanese does, though.

>>10826494

But it does need long sentences and filler words to actually make any sense.

>>10826504
What are filler words?

>>10826455
brb changing the whole language

Is your JP writing actually readable BTW? I don't think mine is.

Why am I supposed to be memorizing in my kanji deck?

I'm so confused. What part of this is actually useful? I don't really see how memorizing the english meanings is useful and the readings are too numerous for me to be able to remember the multiple readings for 1000+ characters when I don't even know any actual words yet.

help

I'm addicted to wanikani. I can't stop. I'm like a crack whore for the turtle

>>10826590
Isn't this a good thing?

>>10826566
All of them. The point is to become familiar at them; to stop seeing them as just random squiggles. This makes it much easier to learn and retain the compound readings and meanings.

Just keep powering through.

>>10826630
>to stop seeing them as just random squiggles.
how long will that take?

>>10826641
You're probably good at around 500 and somewhat better at around 1000 and perfect at around 2000.

>>10826590
I need to try this out. Memrise broke a few months back and I haven't tried to learn shit. I can feel the regression when I see recognize kanji, but don't know what they mean.

>>10826661
Well I'll try my best.

>Never learned it

>Quitter, have not learned it yet

What music do you listen to while doing your reps so that you can keep your spirits high and feel the blood of the otaku flowing through your veins?

I listen to songs from my motherland which is Ireland. In my mind I can see Rumia playing the whistle and Flan on the drums while we march into battle together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxDemDZWktM

Why is WaniKani so slow?

I just did a handful of radicals, that was nothing. Now I have to wait four hours before I can review. Let me do more.

>>10826455
>japanese are the ignorant one keeping such a bad system for tradition
but keeping kanji is for a reason. enjoy 100,000,000 words pronounced the same way.

example: かみ

http://jisho.org/words?jap=kami&eng=&dict=edict

>>10826566
put your kanji deck away and read this:
http://kanjidamage.com/kanji_facts

learn the first 10 kanji, pay attention to the radical first, you will see it's not that hard. it's tedious at most.

>mfw people hating on learning the kanji meanings first and saying it kills motivation
Lelly'd hard, nerd. 825 kanjis in RTK and still going strong with a 96% correct rate. I bet you don't even know what simple kanjis like 欲 mean without asking your mum.

What's the point of the green text in OP?

>>10827017

>96% correct rate.

This is pointless and a great way to go ten times slower than you need to. Have fun burning out.

>>10827017
I'll get her to tell me while my cock is in her mouth #ownednerd

>>10827031
Lelly'd hard, nerd. I do a solid 35 kanjis a day and get 96%. You're just mad you can barely do 20 and get 65%. Lelly. I didn't even go to school and I'm still better at learning than you.
>implying i can burn out
>implying you're just not projecting
>implying you even know what projecting means you fucking faggot

>Learn Chinese
>Pick up Japanese in a weekend.
>Profit

>>10827007

Why didn't they think up more ways to say words?

Japanese people are retarded. No wonder they can't speak English without sounding like they have down syndrome.

>>10827099
Not really... plenty of non-kanji words and Japanese grammar is a hell lot more complex than vernacular Chinese grammar. Chinese speakers do have a head start when it comes to learning Japanese though, and I’d say vice versa but Japanese can have a lot of trouble pronouncing Chinese.

>>10827104
Are you going to keep this up?

What happens if you learn too much Japanese for your brain? Will you get alzheimers? Do you blow up?

>>10827112
Grammar wasn't hard for me to pick up but eh. I'm a joint English/Chinese speaker though so.

>>10827120
You turn into a trunihonjin
Keep studying!

>>10827104
just shut up, stay ignorant if that pleases you.

>>10827120
you automatically commit sudoku

>>10827120
Then you become the Japanese, anon.

>>10827059
Lelly, still no response? Get 滅'd, nerd.

Why is old Japanese art so laughably bad?

Is SRS designed for idiots?

It's almost impossible to study for longer than an hour each day if you strictly follow the recommended SRS daily number of new cards which is around 20.

Do people seriously believe that you can only retain 20 new pieces of information each day? You can easily boost that number up to 80 or 120 and still retain all of it if you actually put in the time. Studying for 6 hours a day used to be a normal thing.

Language learners have become so lazy that it's pathetic just to look at them. 2+ years reviewing shit at the pace of a fucking snail and they still can barely read things written for children.

>>10826208
>I've been using amphetamines to study for 8-10 hours each day
You again?
Why the fuck did I type up all that shit for you? Read a fucking novel.

>>10825984
The latter, but I'm still looking up kanji whenever I feel like it.

>>10827188
>new cards which is around 20
This is impossible. I found a system that works for me havinging multiple decks for various degrees of learning. A "learned" deck with slow repetition, an "intermediate" deck and a currently learning deck. SRS is just a tool and you can use it to find a way that works for you

>>10827188
I think you don't know where you are.

>>10827188
You're right sir.
*tips fedora*

It took about 1 year to be able to read simple manga and translate most sentences with a dictionary. 2 years before I could speak and comprehend spoken Japanese and read most manga comfortably.

I have almost 3k words in my vocab deck, but lately it seems as though I am not getting anything to mature though I am failing a couple of mature cards every day.

I guess I should stop adding 30 new a day.

>>10827920

slowpoke babby fatboy

>>10829464
>slowpoke babby fatboy
now in japanese please

>>10829526

soorowpoke bah-bee fatboyo

this is probably stupid but do commas function the same way as it does in english?

>not using japanese accent dictionary

>>10827188
>20
Where does this come from? I used to do anywhere from 100-500, depending on how much time I had. And taking an hour for 20 new cards a day? You could do a thousand easily in that time.

>>10825984
I lived in a hick white town growing up and was bullied badly for being japanese, kids doing the squint eyes and being beat up and it got to the point where all I wanted was to just be white and just fucking fit in with everyone so I refused to learn how to read or speak japanese cause I thought that would help

>>10831866

Why didn't your parents pass down the clan's katana to you so that you could defend yourself? As the eldest son of your family, it is your birthright to inherit the blade and armor of your father.

>>10831940
>katana
I read that as katakana. Probably would have worked too, those characters are sharp and edgy.