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1075156 No.1075156 [Reply] [Original]

While I was checking the Otakon event schedule, I came across this panel.

How many of you guys can I expect to see there?

>> No.1075165

The western fanbase is deranged all right, but certainly not creative.

>> No.1075173

>One of the largest and most unique and dedicated fandoms in Japan
>One of the largest
>largest

>> No.1075175

WILL WALLFAST BE THERE ?????????????????????????????????????????

>> No.1075180

>>1075156
That's it, Touhou's overwith.

>> No.1075179

>>1075175

LET'S GANGRAPE HER

>> No.1075186

>>1075183
All of them?

>> No.1075183

The person that typed that up sounds like one of those annoying Touhou fans I don't like talking to.

>> No.1075193

Fuck this. The fanbase is turning into the next narutards.

>> No.1075190

I don't understand these panels.

If you like Touhou you already know about it. It's fucking everywhere on Western posting boards. If it was just a bunch of replays it'd be kind of cool, I guess.

>> No.1075194

>>1075193

Too late, it already is.

>> No.1075195

SAGE SAGE EVERYWHERE I HATE EVERYTHING YOU ARE ALL CANCER SAAAAAAAAAGE SAGE YOU AL MAKE ME RAGE FUCK VNS FUCK TOUHOU THIS BOARD IS ABOUT JAPAN SAAAAAAGE TOUHOU ISNT JAPANESE SAAAAAAAGE

>> No.1075199
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1075199

One of the smallest and most unique and dedicated fandoms in Japan

20$ bets that Hatsune gets an animu adaption before Touhou. Just because a few idiots on 2channel and 4chan enjoy talking about it does not make it popular.

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>>1075195
wat

>> No.1075202

>>1075193
You're JUST NOW realizing this!?

>> No.1075204
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>>1075193
>>1075194

I doubt /jp/ will get any worse than it already is, and it'd be sort of awesome if it drummed up any more support for shmups.

Problem there is Touhou's kind of forgiving as far as shmups go and everyone's just going to go "OH MY GOD SHE'S GOT VAMPIRE WINGS WHAT A PRETTY GIRL" and we're going to get Remi into fucking Hot Topic.

>> No.1075205

WHAT I LIKE BECAME POPULAR SO NOW I HATE IT
At least underground music faggots have the excuse that they might need to interact with those people at concerts.

>> No.1075208

>>1075193
yes when i go hoem I practice danmaku and try to fly with a broom

>> No.1075209

>>1075199
We've had this discussion before. A few Anons said ZUN has already received offers, but he told them to GTFO. Other Anons said that he's never gotten an offer. Others said Touhou's too hard to make an anime out of, so there's no use thinking about it anyway.

Still, Miku has the same problems with Touhou, so it'll never happen.

>> No.1075210

>>1075204
I'd fuck a hot topic remi.

>> No.1075220

>>1075209

At least with Miku they could do something out of left field like they did with Idolmaster and make her a magical girl or mecha pilot or some shit.

>> No.1075224

>>1075202

I knew it was bound to happen just not that soon.
There will always be some idiots in whatever fanbase.

>> No.1075223
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>>1075193
>>1075194
Not even close.
http://www.google.com/trends?q=touhou%2C+naruto

Touhou cant even compete with Strike Witches:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=touhou%2C+strike+witches&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort
=1


Strike Witches is only on episode 5 and it's about to surpass Touhou's entire 6 year International following. But I guess that's just a testament to how small Touhou's following is outside of Japan.

>> No.1075230

http://www.google.com/trends?q=touhou%2C+Hatsune+Miku&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

doo dee doo

>> No.1075235

>>1075220
By that logic, wouldn't the same thing work with Touhou? I mean, you'd have to go way out beyond left field for Touhou though...

>> No.1075236
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>>1075230

Eat that Miku, haha!

>> No.1075249
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>>1075209
ZUN has never received an offer. And if the day ever comes when he does receive an offer he'll blog about it (like the huge blogging faggot he is).

Everyone knows that an anime adaption would drive up the sells of the game. Who in their right mind would turn down such an offer? Jesus Christ you fanboys are fucking retarded.

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>>1075230
http://www.google.com/trends?q=touhou%2C+Hatsune+Miku%2C+little+busters&ctab=0&geo=all&d
ate=all&sort=0

Pic related

>> No.1075257

>>1075249
Korean.

>> No.1075268

If the Japanese Touhou fanbase is so small, then why was this year's Raymoo Shrine Reitaisai held at Tokyo Big Sight? Why does Touhou have the most fanart on Pixiv?

Sounds like denial by Anonymous in this thread.

>> No.1075273

>>1075223
Now, let's do this in Japanese...:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=%E6%9D%B1%E6%96%B9%2C++%E3%83%8A%E3%83%AB%E3%83%88&ctab=0&geo
=JP&geor=all&date=all&sort=0

>> No.1075278

>>1075265

But it makes people's eyes bleed. No one wants to die subbing it.

>> No.1075283

>>1075273

Holy shit.

>> No.1075284

>>1075268
Even by doujin standards, it's not that popular. Think the difference between Touhou and something like Tsukihime or Higurashi.

>> No.1075287

>>1075284

Uh. Touhou beats the living shit out of both of those in terms of popularity.

>> No.1075291

In before "the characters for touhou just mean eastern so it's rather ambiguous and the search results could contain lots of extraneous shit"

>> No.1075292

>>1075273
>>1075275
Despite what your small brains can process, 東方 does not always mean the video game series.

>> No.1075289

>>1075273
Not this shit again. This is the point where I tell you to paste "東方" into google and click on google images and see how much *non-touhou related things pop-up.

>> No.1075299

>>1075287
You're probably trolling, but still

Bull Fucking Shit.

>> No.1075306

>>1075284
Yeah, back into 2002 and 2006 respectively. The truth is nobody cares about Tsukihime in Japan anymore, and Higurashi is getting old.

>> No.1075310

>>1075289
This is a point where I ask you to explain a steady growth and all the huge spikes whenever a new game comes around (the last one being the most recent Reitaisai).

>> No.1075317

>>1075297
http://www.google.com/trends?q=%E6%9D%B1%E6%96%B9%2C+%E8%A5%BF%E6%96%B9%2C+%E5%8D%97%E6%96%B9%2C+%E5
%8C%97%E6%96%B9&ctab=0&geo=JP&geor=all&date=all&sort=0

If "eastern" is a such common word, "western", "southern" and "northern" should turn up as much searches as it does, right?

Well, wrong.

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1075320

I would go to a western touhou panel at an anime convention, only I haven’t recently suffered a brain haemorrhage.

>> No.1075326

>>1075310
Steady growth could easily be attributed to the rapid exponential growth of Internet users in the world. I read in an article recently that Internet traffic is expected to quadruple by 2012.

>>1075306
The point is the number of games Tsukihime and Higurashi sold, in addition to their eventual anime adaptations. Plus, TM is making a remake of Tsukihime.

>> No.1075328

touhou gets its own CD section, and of course its own doujin section, in most animu shops in japan

>> No.1075329

>>1075310
This is the point where I call bullshit. First of all I counted 25 spikes. Second of all, the spikes do not occur when the Touhou games came out.

>> No.1075330

>>1075265
The Soundholic plot was slow and dull. Blah blah blah, moon's in trouble, Let's get Kaguya to fix the Hourai plant or whatever the fuck it is WHOOPS IT'S A TRICK TO MAKE IMMORTALITY ELIXIR AND FOR SOME REASON MOKOU SAVES YOU ALL. OH AND IF YOU DRINK THE ELIXIR TWICE APPARENTLY YOU DIE INSTEAD OF GETTING SUPER POWERS.

And the animation was terrible.

Could've been worse but with all the talking it would have been better as a doujinshi.

>> No.1075331

ITT: Touhoufags trying to justify that their doujin is the most popular.

Sound so similar like narutards trying to say that naruto is the best anime.
I like touhou but sometimes the fanbase really make me rage.

>> No.1075333

http://images.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla
:en-US:official&q=%E6%9D%B1%E6%96%B9&start=21&sa=N&ndsp=21

Click the memory stick at the bottom, then click it again to see the full image.

>> No.1075343

>>1075338

Enjoy looking at fatfags dressing up as touhou.
It will kill your eyesight.

>> No.1075340

>>1075328
So does everything else. Your point?

>> No.1075345

>>1075331

>ITT: people talk about the size of fanbases and I get angry because I am a faggot and then sage a thread that will surely get bumped anyway.

>> No.1075351

>>1075329
They do. Those that don't occur when the new game is released still occur during Comikets/Reitaisai. You are able to figure out why, I hope?

>> No.1075353

I bet if you made this topic at poolshmer, you'd get 100+ "I'LL SEE YOU THERE LOL" replies.

>> No.1075352

The Touhou fanbase is large in Japan. A lot of fanbases are. It's still niche, though.

I think people misinterpret the size simply because of the sheer massive fucking output of material for Touhou.

>> No.1075354

It works well enough, due to the way google organizes page links. The vast majority of those who search for 東方 want the video game series.

>>1075284
They're all quite popular. All of those doujin game fanbases overlap.

Remember, the Japanese are very broad when it comes to taste.

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1075360

I don't like the way the games are described there--for one thing, I've never heard it called "that crazy fairy shooter." When I first described it to a couple friends, I started with, "Basically, the moon has been kidnapped by aliens."

But yeah, I plan on attending this year (my second con) and I'll probably check it out.

>> No.1075366

the people arranging the panel are #shrinemaiden elitist biggots, expect to see the exact crap you see on their forums and irc channel, only somewhat justified with the "important discussions" and filling most of their panel time with random touhou fanmade videos

>> No.1075370

>touhou

>> No.1075367

I don't really care if it's popular or not. I'll like it the same regardless if it has a fanbase numbering in millions semi-narutofan like in behavior or a few dedicated Japanese fans that produce quality fan works that I love so much. I don't feel the need to defend the popularity of my hobby since that won't change anything as I previously stated. There will be people liking and understanding it the way OP's image shows and there will also be people that take a different approach to the subject.

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1075376

I don't like the way the guy there is describing it, and I've never heard it called "that crazy fairy shooter". But I plan on attending anyway, so I'll probably show up for the panel.

>> No.1075382

>>1075367
Me too. Except I'm already at the point where I'm fed up with most of the people, so I almost never bring it up. I'm here to discuss my KEY faggotry and other VNs.

>> No.1075384

>>1075367
I'M SORRY YOU'LL HAVE TO GET OUT BEING RATIONAL IS NOT ALLOWED HERE

>> No.1075385

>>1075326
>Plus, TM is making a remake of Tsukihime.

Does that really talk about it's popularity or about how much TM money milks it's franchises? Higurashi and Umineko are still popular though I don't see a lot of fanmade stuff lately.

>> No.1075387

>>1075376
Who the hell are you?

>> No.1075390

>>1075376
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22that+crazy+fairy+shooter%22&hl=en&safe=off&client=fire
fox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&hs=qFZ&filter=0

>> No.1075383

Touhou is a mediocre shoot em up game that couldn't sell enough units to make it to the American market.

If ZUN is so successful, how come he lives such a poor lifestyle?

Type-Moon's success > Man who works at Pizza Hut's success >>>>> ZUN's success.

While Type-Moon became a successful company ZUN is still stuck in amateur hour.

>> No.1075393

>>1075383
ZUN has a normal job, you know.

>> No.1075398

If any of you faggots see Kilgayman, please murder him.

>> No.1075404

>>1075385
I think it does. If TM didn't think they weren't going to make money off the remake, why would they make it?

And then TM may love to milk their franchises, but most companies do if they know they'll make money off it.

>> No.1075405

Who says ZUN is poor? Did anyone ever see his house/apartment/box?

>> No.1075406

>>1075393
Doing what? Drinking...?

>> No.1075407

>>1075383
He makes a ludicrous amount of money. It's just that it all goes straight to beer. He must have more, ever more.

>> No.1075409

>>1075406
Yeah, that's his job. What kind of job do you think he would get? An office desk?

>> No.1075415

>>1075406
He's a video game designer for various companies; he freelances.

>> No.1075418

>>1075406
>>1075383

ZUN works for Taito.

>> No.1075421

Otakon Touhou panel? More like "substitution panel for 4chan.org". Enjoy your /b/.

Also, ZUN will never, ever make a Touhou anime. Doing so would cost him his job at Taito. He obviously has no intention of giving that up.

Type-Moon and 7th Expansion wanted to make a living off of their games. ZUN does not give two shits about that, as he already has a career. Touhou is merely his hobby.

>> No.1075422

>>1075404
They were better off being a doujin group. But the faggots love money so much they whore their own characters with crappy "comedy" spin-offs and other crap. Nasu should get his shit straight and do something worth a damn, like Tsukihime. Stop selling us crap like F/SN.

>> No.1075423

Make sure to punch IORI E in the face, gut and balls for attention whoring.

>> No.1075424

>>1075376
>I've never heard it called "that crazy fairy shooter".
Yeah, this kopipe is the closest you'll get:

DMX: So I was playin' dat Touhou and Fiddy Cent comes up to me and is like "DMX why you play that dodgan bullet loli animu gaem"and I said "Because Fiddy I like ta dodge them bullets. Unlike you." "Why you gotta do it with a loli" "I dunno"

>> No.1075436

>>1075423
But isn't he going to cosplay as Hinamori Amu?

How could I hurt Amu-chan?

>> No.1075438

>>1075424
Obligatory:

so i was playin the touhou
and tupac comes up to me and is like
"dmx why you play that dodgan bullet loli animu gaem"
and i said
"because tupac i like ta dodge them bullets. UNLIKE U."
"..."

>> No.1075440

>>1075422
F/SN would have been awesome if he hadn't butchered it for increased sales.

>> No.1075442

>>1075418
>Taito
Never heard of it. What games has this studio produced?

I'm willing to bet this job only pays 15,000 a year. If the programmers in Japan are just as underpaid as the artist, then ZUN isn't making shit from that company.

>> No.1075444

>>1075438
Are you an idiot?

>> No.1075446

>>1075421
ZUN only need enough money to buy beer.

>> No.1075449

>>1075442
SPACE INVADERS, faggot.

>> No.1075448

>>1075442
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Taito_games

>> No.1075454

>>1075442

Some game called Space Invaders. I don't think it was very popular.

>> No.1075463

>>1075442

Either a troll or underageb&

>> No.1075464

>>1075383
Even Cave games don't make it onto the American market. It has no interest in shmups.

And if you've not heard of Taito your opinion on everything, is irrelevant.

>> No.1075470

>>1075454
Also games like Arkanoid and Puzzle Bobble. No one really heard of them.

>> No.1075473

>>1075442

WTF?
Go play bubble bobble.

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>>1075421
In other words, ZUN doesn't have what it takes to make a living off of his games. Jesus Christ, just how unpopular is Touhou inside of Japan? I'm not good at mathematics but all a game really has to sell is 100,000 units and you're pretty much set for life, right? How much does the average Touhou game cost? Hell, even if Touhou only managed to sell 15,000 units that's still enough to make you rich.

>> No.1075487

>>1075249
>Everyone knows that an anime adaption would drive up the sells of the game.

Aren't they free?

>> No.1075491

>>1075485
Doesn't the average Touhou game cost like 10 dollars?

And who knows how much the production costs.

>> No.1075494

>>1075485

>In other words I don't understand anything about ZUN and Touhou and am resorting to open trolling.

>> No.1075496

>>1075485
He drinks.

A lot.

>> No.1075498

>>1075487
They're about as free as any anime you download from the internets.

>> No.1075505
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>>1075487
"If you're good at something, don't do it for free."

>> No.1075508

>>1075449
>>1075454
ZOMG, Space Invaders! I cant believe my ears. HOLY SHIT!

But with all seriousness, Space Invaders.... That's it? That's all? I guess that's why we've invented sayings like "one hit wonders."

>> No.1075510

>>1075485
1 $ hurr hurr.

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>>1075387
Someone who almost never uses his trip on 4chan, but does elsewhere.

>Otakon Touhou panel? More like "substitution panel for 4chan.org". Enjoy your /b/.
I will continue to enjoy my cautious optimism until reality forces me to trash it.

>> No.1075517

>>1075485
You don't seem to understand how this dojinsoft stuff works. And nothing is known about ZUN's lifestyle except that he spends most of it intoxicated.

>> No.1075521

>>1075491
>production costs

Lolwut. Indie game budgets = 0$

You meant to say marketing budget, right?

>> No.1075522

Fuck you fags, Arkanoid was the shit. Hell, it probably inspired Touhou in the first place.

>> No.1075524

>>1075522
Touhou 1 maybe...

>> No.1075523

>>1075521

You know it costs money to manufacture a disc and case, right?

>> No.1075529

>>1075508
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Taito_games

Please shut the fuck up.

>> No.1075531

>>1075508
Apparently Taito is owned by Square Enix, so they probably have their studios do some of the grunt work.

>> No.1075532

>>1075508
How can you not see the link immediately above the post you quoted? That leads to an enormous list of games?

>>1075521
Media, packaging, and printing are free? Since when?

>> No.1075534

>>1075508
...you're trolling, right? Tell me you're trolling.

No, that's not all, but that's one game that every Touhou-faggot simply must know. As in, you know, without it there would be no Touhou. There would be no "shmups" at all.

>> No.1075535

>>1075523

As someone in a band who self-manufactures all their stuff because we're a bunch of no names who will never go anywhere, I can tell you for a fact that doing this isn't that expensive.

All in all we wound up dumping like 150 bucks or so for 100 printed CDs, cases and sleeves. And you get discounts for larger orders.

The more you know™

>> No.1075543

>>1075517
>You don't seem to understand how this dojinsoft stuff works.

Care to elaborate? Some guy said "Zomg, Touhou is SO popular." If Touhou is so popular why isn't ZUN floating in cash. Type-Moon became a successful company. Why is ZUN still stuck in amateur hour? I'm waiting for your reply.

>> No.1075541

>>1075535
That is significantly more than nothing.

>> No.1075544

>>1075535
Something tells me that the amount of data per disc would come into play somewhere, like it takes longest to print a game on a disc than just some mp3s.

>> No.1075545

zun is filthy rich.

>> No.1075551

>>1075543
Read the fucking thread.

>>1075544
Actually, no. And they probably used something that can play on normal CD players, so not mp3s.

>> No.1075549

>>1075543

I don't know why you think ZUN is stuck in "amateur hour."

>> No.1075555

>>1075543
Excuse me Mr. Faggot, ZUN is no amateur. You may proceed with your trolling.

>> No.1075556

>>1075543
ZUN actually said he prefers the doujin style of things without deadlines or having to "do things a certain way" for the company. By staying doujin, he can experiment with different gameplay styles, like he did with PoFV and even how he completely changed it up with MoF.

>> No.1075552

>>1075543
Wasn't this already answered? TM wanted to make more money, so they became professionals. Touhou is just ZUN's hobby, and he has no intention of getting rich off it.

>> No.1075553

Zun doesn't like non Japanese who steal his games.

>> No.1075554

>>1075543
business smart =/= popular. zun is too drunk to figure out how to milk money out of his franchise

>> No.1075559

>>1075551
>>1075544

It's a full length 50 minute album. It's not a bunch of mp3's. I'd post a link to it but I don't want to whore out and it's post rock/screamo anyway, which no one likes.

>> No.1075561

>>1075535
>>As someone in a band who self-manufactures all their stuff

Got any mp3s?

Hell, rapidshare a song with no title/band name if you wanna remain Anonymous.

>> No.1075562

>>1075529
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Taito_games
>The Flintstones: The Treasure of Sierra

Jesus Christ, and here I was thinking Sony was a bad company. Never before in my life have I witnessed such a lackluster list of second rate, D minus, low-budget games.

>> No.1075563

>>1075561

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?xmkmg2icbze

Meh. Here's the whole album!

>> No.1075568

>>1075563

Fellow German?

>> No.1075572

>>1075568

Nah, just pretentious!

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>>1075572

>> No.1075578

>>1075563

Sweet. Thanks Anon.

>>1075562

7/10 because I laughed. Such hate-filled comments for the Flintstones!

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1075582

DID SOMEBODY SAY PRETENTIOUS?

>> No.1075584

>>1075582
From such a height!

>> No.1075593

>>1075582
You faggot, that's not pretentious that's FUCKING AWESOME. At least it was when they was still Chroniko. I stopped watching it after that, they killed off the best character.

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>>1075593

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>>1075582

>> No.1075601

>>1075593
You realize the word "pretentious" is being used here in an ironic manner, right?

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>> No.1075625

>>1075549
>>1075555
>Excuse me Mr. Faggot, ZUN is no amateur.

ZUN is indeed an amateur.
1.He's still a one man company.
2.He fails at programming.

I'm a c++ n00b and to be honest with you I see myself surpassing ZUN in 2 more years. I can already draw better than him (not that that's hard). The thing that separates a good coder from a bad coder is variety. ZUN only knows how to code bullet shooters. I'm a C++ n00b yet I can already picture myself coding games like Metal Gear and Half Life in a few years. ZUN has been coding for 15 years now and he's still doing that primitive crap. If you look at ZUN's progress through all of these years you'll notice that he hasn't evolved much. Now don't get me wrong, I fap all day and only practice coding every 2 weeks. Yet I still can see myself surpassing ZUN by the end of this year. Also, Curtain shooters are very easy to code.

In conclusion, ZUN is pathetic.

>> No.1075635

>>1075625

Again, you think ZUN just programs bullet shooters because you don't know anything.

Delete post, try trolling again.

>> No.1075632

>>1075625
I'll give you a 2/10 for trying.

>> No.1075642

>>1075625
Despite being a troll: ZUN likes these games, thus he makes them. QED.

>> No.1075638

>>1075563
Honestly, not bad at all. I was sorta expecting a clusterfuck, but the songs were actually organized. I think someone isn't 100% precise when it comes to staying in tempo though... maybe the drummer?

Mastering is good, but not great. Maybe some more lows? "Buying" something like WAVES Mercury Bundle might work wonders here.

Nice album Anon.

>> No.1075650

>>1075638
Wait, that's if you do your own mastering. I shouldn't assume stuff.

>> No.1075652

>>1075625

His game music inspired 200GB+ worth of remix music and it is still growing with every comiket.
Come back when you have programming skill and musical talent to rival that.

>> No.1075651

>>1075625
2.5/10 for the effort.
Also,
>The thing that separates a good coder from a bad coder is variety.
Not even.

>> No.1075660

>>1075625
>I can already draw better than him (not that that's hard)
When I read this, I knew it was a troll.

>> No.1075662

>>1075625
...this is the most pathetic post I've seen on 4chan in a while, and that says a lot. Where does all this jealousy come from?

>> No.1075663

>>1075638
>>1075650

Thank you. It is appreciated! The albums got some minor problems here and there, but it's a stepping stone.

>> No.1075668

>>1075625
>I'm a C++ n00b yet I can already picture myself coding games like Metal Gear and Half Life in a few years.
No, kid, making a Pong clone in Flash doesn't count as CODING GAEMS.

>> No.1075672

>>1075652
I'm not downplaying Touhou music, but I think most of those remixes are due to the initial catchiness of those tunes.

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>>1075632
>>1075635
Well if ZUN does know how to code other genres, why the hell does he keep making bullet shooters? ZUN is out-of-touch with our generation. I seriously don't know what you guys see in that guy. ZUN doesn't know about games like Zelda, Metal Gear, or schoolmate. ZUN grew up in the 80's so he still thinks games are just about defeating the boss and getting a highscore. ZUN doesn't know that some people spend 90+ hours in virtual worlds like Final Fantasy and Morrowind.

ZUN's not a good coder. ZUN isn't a good game designer like Shigeru Miyamoto. Honestly, wtf do you guys see in this man?

>> No.1075680

>>1075674
Stop trolling.

>> No.1075686

>>1075674

ZUN sticks to what he does best. That's how people succeed in their careers.

>> No.1075687

>>1075674
Holy shit, now THIS is a bad troll. You're even worse than ZUN(tripfag).
0/10

>> No.1075688

I've been planning on going to Otakon for a while now. I'll undoubtedly be there.

>> No.1075681

>>1075674
>Honestly, wtf do you guys see in this man?

He makes Touhou.

>> No.1075691

>>1075672
...isn't that just praising ZUN for making such good music?

>> No.1075692

>>1075688
Hey, we're not talking about that.

>> No.1075700

Does anyone here know which Taito games music is done by Zun?

I think I heard some anon say that the music used in Touhou is rejected material from Taito games.

>> No.1075701

>>1075691
Not exactly. You said he had "musical talent", but his talent for music does not necessarily equal how many GB of remixes his songs have received. As I said, they could just be catchy tunes.

>> No.1075711

>>1075701
Well, the ability of writing catchy tunes is a talent, now, isn't it?

>> No.1075714

>>1075701

If you make shit music, would people remix your music?
Obviously this mean Zun music is good.
You need musical talent to make good music.

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>>1075674
Yeah, but Shiggy makes Mario, Zelda, and Star Fox. But do you see me creaming my panties over him?

Hironobu Sakaguchi produced some of the most memorable games of all time. I've probably spent 1600+ hours out of my life playing some of Hironobu's games. But I'm not worshiping the guy.

>> No.1075724

>>1075711
Again, not necessarily. A catchy tune can be popular just because it's catchy, not because it's good music. Sure, I know what you're thinking, "But whether a piece of music is good or not is up to the opinion of someone", but there's also good taste. Think of your favorite songs and compare them to the Touhou themes.

>> No.1075731

>>1075724
>Think of your favorite songs and compare them to the Touhou themes.
What if they are one and the same?

>> No.1075733

>>1075724
Bye bye Miss American Pie, Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry.
Them good old boys were drinking whiskey and rye, singing this'll be the day that I die.

>> No.1075736

>>1075714
Stupid little jingles are catchy too, but that doesn't make them good music. The whole Touhou fanbase could just be a collective mass of people with terrible, terrible taste in music.

>> No.1075737

>>1075692

Whoops, my fault. Sun is up and I'm tired to the point of laughing at everything so I figured I'd just respond to OP's post.

>> No.1075738

>>1075724
The Touhou themes are my favorite songs.

>> No.1075741

>>1075736

5/10, almost got me there.

>> No.1075755

>>1075750
Yes.

>> No.1075758

>>1075750
I don't know.

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>>1075686
>ZUN sticks to what he does best. That's how people succeed in their careers.
>succeed in their careers.
>succeed

Yeah, and that's why Shiigy is known as one of the most successful game developers of all time. Because he stuck with Mario. He never came up with other things like:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_games_created_by_Shigeru_Miyamoto

Oh, and that's also why ZUN is still struggling to pay his heating bills.

>> No.1075750

>>1075731
>>1075738
Yeah, I thought you'd say that, which is why I was going to post "Think of your favorite non-Touhou songs and compare them to the Touhou themes", but was too lazy to go back.

In that case, I'd say ask yourself this: Do you generally have good taste in music?

>> No.1075763

>>1075724
No, whether the piece of music is good or not is precisely only a matter of opinion. Taste is subjective. When people like some tune, it fullfills its purpose, and is therefore good.

My favourite pieces of music are, indeed, nothing like Touhou themes, but that's because my taste in music is different. Apparently, though, many people like them, as can be attested by the sheer volume of remixes produced.

>> No.1075768

>>1075750
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe-MIDDfckw

I'd say I do.

>> No.1075771

>>1075757
So...you'd rather have ZUN sell out just so he can be blinging and showing off that he's one of the elite?

>> No.1075772

>>1075763
Taste is not subjective. Don't be all new-age thinker on me now; not everything in the world is subjective. If someone has bad taste in clothes, or bad taste in choosing girlfriends/boyfriends, you'd know, trust me. Music is the same thing.

>> No.1075776

>>1075652
>200GB+
Way to fail. That Touhou torrent would only be 3GB if you converted it to mp3.

Let me further elaborate by giving you an example. If I was to convert the following torrent into the same shitty lossless format that touhou is in, it would go from being 8GB to 400GB.

http://www.mininova.org/tor/309808

>> No.1075778

>>1075768
>>1075758
>>1075755
Now ask yourself: Do people around you also think you have good taste in music?

>> No.1075779

>>1075772
>Taste is not subjective.
Personal taste is subjective.
Good taste is not.

>> No.1075780

>>1075763

I generally hate techno and heavy metal shit.
But somehow I can stand touhou music and arrangement.

>> No.1075781

>>1075772
So...what, the hordes of teenage girls who love boy bands are accurate judges of good music because there's so many of them?

>> No.1075783

>>1075778
>Do people around you also think you have good taste in music?
>people around you
Well...

>> No.1075784

>>1075779
I was talking about good taste, not personal taste.

>> No.1075785

>>1075778
I don't go around putting my headphones on random people's heads.

>> No.1075789

I tried to to derail this thread with Kaiba and decanting but you faggots had to go and argue with the troll again.
God damn.

>> No.1075790

>>1075781
No, and your comparison makes no sense.

>> No.1075796

>>1075772
...let's put this straight. If you don't agree taste is subjective, you're either:

1) A pretentious faggot who thinks his taste is the only valid one.
2) An conformist faggot who's unable to follow his own taste so he forces himself to "like" what others said/wrote is good.

Not everything in the world is subjective, but things that are not subjective are measurable. Taste isn't. That's all there is to it.

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>>1075776
NOW THAT IS GOOD MUSIC!

Touhoufags take notes.

Enjoy your shitty megaman music while I listen to my legendary Final Fantasy OST.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn71hIsm0U8

Nobuo Uematsu made millions from his music. Hmm, I wonder why Touhou's music didn't receive such a following?

>> No.1075799

>>1075778

Ask yourself this, do you like Umbrella?
The whole world think the song is good. Do you?

>> No.1075807

>>1075800
Sorry, I'm too busy listening to the NMH OST. You know, a soundtrack that doesn't suck.

>> No.1075813

>>1075778

Outside of touhou, I like yuki kajiura and yoko kanno.
Do I have shit taste for music?

>> No.1075817

>>1075790
Taste is not subjective, therefore the song which is number 1 on TRL is obviously the number 1 song.

If you don't agree you have no taste since it was voted on to be the number one song, thus making it objective.

>> No.1075818

>>1075807
I am listening to the Lord of the Rings OST. It is like I am really an Uruk-hai.

>> No.1075821

>>1075800
>Enjoy your shitty megaman music

I don't know why but I chuckled.

>> No.1075827

The Mars Volta is the best band today.
Disagree with me and you are wrong.

>> No.1075828

>>1075800
I hate how Final Fantasy Tactics is always left out of everything. I've never seen a large-scale performance of any of the songs in the soundtrack, which is a pity, since I feel it is much better than most of the stuff Nobuo has put out.

>> No.1075832

>>1075817
Whether or not something is popular or not does not determine if it was chosen in good or bad taste.

>> No.1075834

>>1075800
Because ZUN's fine with other doujin artists making their remixes without paying him royalties.

Whereas because Nobuo's syndicated, Square Enix and those who pay them money are more or less the only distributors of Final Fantasy music.

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I love it how you Touhoufags always manage to change the subject whenever you start to lose the aurgument. This thread went from:

Touhou is not popular
to
ZUN is poor
to
ZUN is a rookie programmer
to
ZUN is a shitty game designer
to
ZUN is good at music.

If I had some more time I'd defeat your argument about ZUN's music. I'm going to sleep for now.

Touhou is mediocre. Get over it. Go outside and buy a real game like Zelda/Metal Gear/Metroid/Castlevania faggots.

>> No.1075863

>>1075858
It sure is /v/ in here

>> No.1075867

>>1075858
Actually, the one who kept changing the subject to those was you.

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>>1075863
Butthurt much?

>> No.1075875

>>1075858
No, it went like this:

>Touhou is not popular
You've been proved wrong

>ZUN is poor
You've been proved wrong

>ZUN is a bad programmer
You've been proved wrong

>ZUN is a bad musician
You've been proved wrong

>Stop changing topics, guys
10/10. Seriously.

>> No.1075879

>>1075875
proved -> proven. Bite me.

>> No.1075896

>>1075875
1.Save this thread in one of your imageboad folders.
2.Re-read it, but this time actually *pay attention.
3.????
4.Touhou sucks donkey balls. Bye.

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>>1075896

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>> No.1075926

>>1075896

>>1075485 - this is where you change topic to "ZUN is poor".

>>1075625 - this is where you change topic to "ZUN is a bad programmer".

>>1075718 - this is where you try to change the topic to "you faggots all suck ZUN's cock" but it was too ridiculous even for us to react.

>> No.1075927

>>1075326
>Plus, TMA is making a remake of Tsukihime.
by the gods, man...

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