/jp/ - Otaku Culture

twice as hard, half as useful and the bullying would push you to kill yourself

>>1070504
For the niggers?

The reality is trivial.
My high school days were the worst.

Typical Japanese classroom

No, you really don't.

>>1070527
disgusting greasy faces, really.

I liked my high school.

And here I thought Japanese schools made fascism pale in comparison.

Is that Azrael?

>>1070514
>half as useful
Bullshit. If it's twice as hard then that just means I might actually learn something.
>Bullying
We're not all pussies. Just ignore them.

>>1070527
further proof that white girls are superior

>>1070514
I heard colleges are easier over there though.

I didn't have much of a youth anyway. If schooling has to pound me in the ass during one point in my life, I rather it be during the years I can still leech off my parents.

>>1070596
>If it's twice as hard then that just means I might actually learn something.
hahaha
good one

twice as hard because, instead of being taught to apply method, you are taught the answers to the exams which you have to memorize by rote

Japanese school is all about the exams, that's why someone can ace their English and not be able to speak a coherent sentence.

>>1070596
>Bullshit. If it's twice as hard then that just means I might actually learn something.

Sure, enjoy cramming your head full of notions. I don't know what's the situation in other countries, but where I'm from, school actually teaches you to use your own head.

in terms of difficulty and workload

High school > 6th Form > University > Primary School

I literally only have 3 classes per week at university. It's great.

Japan really needs to drag its education system up to a global standard.

>>1070596
Enjoy reciting useless information like a fucking parrot. That skill's useful in med school, not in high school.

アメリカよりましだと思うけど
おもしろくないよ日本の学校

>>1070644
>High school > 6th Form

High school=6th form, or maybe you meant middle school

>>1070504

If it is a Japanese high school, why there is a nigger teaching the class?

>>1070644
If the degree of difficulty in your university is less than that of high school, enjoy your shitty university/major. Good universities/majors actually require you to do quite a bit of work and are pretty challenging.

>>1070726
He is teaching them how to react when someone says hello to them.

>>1070729
Not really, in my university mathfags only have lessons three mornings every week.

>>1070729

It's the classes, not the university, shitard. Trust me, it's the same shit.

>>1070504

That's one fancy looking black man, why can't black people in America all look like that?

>>1070752
One semester, I had classes three days a week, but I'm a chemfag major and my classes scare the shit out of me.

I have no idea why you would want to go to school in High School in Japan when school in America is a fucking cakewalk.

>>1070765
He's from England. We don't have fancy looking black men in America.

>>1070504
is that Will Smith?

the japanese students are more or less the same as american. i guess you would see a larger percentage of studious ones in japan... but the only difference I know of is they all wear uniforms and shit.

>>1070885
It.. doesn't look anything like him.

>>1070912
Almost every country outside of America requires uniforms for students in primary and secondary schools.

>>1070596
lol, if you're anything but asian and not a total short small fuck I doubt you could take anything they say serious, and you could easily beat their ass anyway

>>1070927
Almost every primary and intermediate school in America requires uniforms.

>>1070514
>twice as hard, half as useful.

If its twice as hard that means you might actually learn something which makes it useful.

>the bullying would push you to kill yourself.

Name a Japanese kid that has no connection with Yakuza with enough balls to pick on a kid from the west.

I'll wait.

>>1070927
No, you're talking about only dominantly english cultured countries.

Europs, for one, mostly doesn't have uniforms.
France, Italy, Germany, Spain, Greece etc.

>>1070949
I dare you to have a meaningful conversation with them about worldly matters.

>>1070971

I'm way older than them and I don't expect them to know anything. They learn a lot of useless, inapplicable knowledge. Endless amounts of busy work make it "hard"

>>1070964

Germany doesn't have uniforms because that would remind them of Hitler Jugend.

You exagerrate the bullying in Japanese schools.

Stop reading GTO.

>If its twice as hard that means you might actually learn something which makes it useful.
>They learn a lot of useless, inapplicable knowledge.

>>1071006
But GTO is fun ;_;

>>1071024
What volume are you up to?

>>1071031
I finished reading them years ago.

If it's anything like the schools in China it's twice as hard because they teach you an insane amount of math. That and it's a 6 days a week.

セーラー服 <3

>>1070991
>Inapplicable knowledge

I don't think so Tim.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss0qcaCjx80

>>1071081
Wow, she uses an abacus

IS that because they don't have any "caluclatiors" is Japan?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hqhnaAmRH4

>>1071104

To use an Abacus you have to use your brain. To use a calculator you're just pressing buttons and getting an instant answer.

>>1071126
Abacus? Is that some kind of food?

>>1071081
Hahaha oh wow. Adding/Subtracting and Multiplying/Diving huge numbers IN ITSELF is inapplicable. Memorize the multiplication tables and you're set for life.

When I'm doing calculus or statistics I'm not in the business of figuring out what's 34957901234907 + 2341932847090129387.

I bought a TI-84 my first year of high school. I have no talent with mathematics, and it's carried all the way through to my junior year of college. Best 100 bucks I ever spent.

>>1071081
>>1071104
>>1071126
We had abacus classes in school (Yes, in Asia), and I can tell you it's a hell lot more practical to just stick to calculators. The ability to do some quick mental calculations after mastering the abacus just isn't that good of a trade off considering how much time and effort you'll need to put into it.

>>1071141
What kind of shitty high school did you go to? A proper math class will put restrictions on the type of calculator you're allowed, if any is allowed at all.

>>1071126
Don't kid yourself, an abacus is worthless if you have a calculator.

As long as you understand how the process works, there's no point needlessly doing it the hard way every single time.

I'm guessing you think they still make you show your long division in differential calculus?

>>1070704
Actually, I think they produce about the same percentages of useless idiots and rare geniuses.
>>1070947
No, they don't.

nigga be ballin'

>>1070752
Note that mathfags usually do 2 hours of out-of-class work per 1 hour of in-class work to stay at the top (because actual universities are not going to count GPA-boosting shit like basket weaving towards value). Even if 40-50% of all higher-level math classes depend solely on the instructor.

>>1071126
>To use an Abacus you have to use your brain.

Wrong, all it forces you to do is make a few extra steps every problem.

>>1071126

You're using your brain to do something that humans are inherently NOT good at.

That's why we fucking invented computers and calculators.

>>1071301
Western schools produce more idiots, but also more geniuses. Especially in America since we have a tracking system. The smarter get pushed into the more intellectually challenging classes and the dumb stay behind presumably to get dumber and appear on European TV as stupid Americans.

Coupled with the fact that western schools teach individuality and how being unique is good and how we're all different and that's why everyone's special, etc. You wouldn't see that in a place like Japan. Everyone gets drilled into an average. They don't have tracking, the better off help the others and stuff like that. Everybody receives the exact same attention.

Needless to say, that's why I think we have incredible amounts of idiots, but also a higher percentage of very extraordinary thinkers. Whereas everyone in Japan is 'good', the extraordinary are few and far between, due mostly to their culture.

at least you would've learned something.

>>1071349
>Western schools produce more idiots, but also more geniuses.

Couldn't you also say this is because of population differences?

>>1071422
read the whole thing and you'll see the point.

Anyway, i'm not the poster, but I'd like to comment.
I agree with what he said. It's a really good way to get the smart people to harness what theyre worth. I was one of those smart kids, and I was even asked to switch to a different high school, because we didn't have classes that I "should" be taking (it was recommended to me by my principal, not overly-proud parents)
Maybe that makes my bias as to liking the system, but I really believe it's a good way to sift through everything and find the diamonds in the rough

I thought, in Japan, they separated kids into classes based on their supposed intelligence? Like the smartest were in "Class A"... slower in "Class C"... etc.

>>1071349

Geniuses don't exist anymore in any country, because the rise of corporations have destroyed them.

All the geniuses in America work for Microsoft and Boeing, and their achievements are lumped in with the corporation.

All the geniuses in Japan work for Toyota and Sony, and their achievements are lumped in with the corporation.

If you guys really want to become a famous thinker in this era you're better off being a creative genius. LIKE ZUN!

>>1071434
Being cast aside makes me rage.

>>1071451

A lot of geniuses just work for themselves. Like Bill Gates. He started his business when corporations were still well-rooted.

>>1071349

Sorry, in the United States we do not track students. I have no idea where you got that idea from, but both the teachers and the parents of the students are against it.

In my school I asked if there were any schemes or more difficult work I could be given in a couple of classes which I found too easy, and I got put into lower classes - where it wasn't even possible to get top grades, they didn't get that advanced - for being difficult and supposedly "refusing to do any work" (which was not true).

I don't like to blame my problems on ayone but but me, but my school did play a part in what my life has become now.

>>1071458
You must not be American.

In America we track like nobody else.

Some schools operate on track system, as in A, B, C, and sometimes D tracks. Usually A being smartest students in the lot and only certain courses being offerered in A track.

We also have honors classes, and on top of honors classes we have AP courses operated on a national level.

And if that's not enough, some schools even separate students identified as "gifted" into different courses.

And on certain occassions, students are allowed to skip grades in order to give them an even greater challenge to their abilities.

In America, if you're smart, we'll put you to the test by throwing all sorts of shit at you until you reach a point were you are being challenged enough.

Oh man jap's are uggggggggggly

>>1071499

Similar situation here in CA. Douchebag administration wanted to transfer me to military academy. I ended up arguing my way into independent study.

In the end, I graduated from that dickbutt high school with honors. I stopped by the same dean's office on my way out from picking up my diploma (I didn't care to walk with my class; all of my friends were upperclassmen who'd graduated the previous year). Bitch was positively beaming as if she'd accomplished something great. I think she sincerely believed she was like Michelle Pfeiffer in Dangerous Minds or some shit.

>>1071519

>In America, if you're smart, we'll put you to the test by throwing all sorts of shit at you until you reach a point were you are being challenged enough.

YOU must not be American. The public school system is absolutely fucking atrocious. I was separated into the "gifted program" in my elementary school. It was not anything special. As far as I could discern they taught us the same stupid shit. When me and a few of the REALLY smart kids had literally gone way ahead of the rest of the class and did our math textbooks from cover to cover, we were reprimanded. When we asked to be taught algebra in 3rd grade, they told us to fuck off until middle school.

You're talking about the way the system ideally should work, not the way it works in reality. It may be better than Japan's, but it's fucking shit.

>>1071570

Truth.

>>1071570
I don't think my school was like that.

>>1071570
You know, its possible that your school is different.

Its funny, you can tell what Anonymous's high school experience was like by asking what American high schools are like as a whole

>>1071570

No way?! I thought the hours I was forced to learn the fucking Recorder in middle school was time well spent.

>>1071570
Don't judge the rest of the American public school system by your shitty school. EVERYTHING varies differently from district to distric.

>>1071570
HEY GUESS WHAT NIGGER, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SAYING THERE'S NO TRACKING SYSTEM IN AMERICA AND BAAWWWWWING ABOUT YOUR SHITTY SCHOOL NOT LETTING YOU ADVANCE FURTHER.

>>1071615

Recorders are for lolis.

>>1071639
you sick fuck

are you suggesting I should go outside right now and shove a recorder into the vagina of the first loli I see?

that's disgusting

>>1071643

No, you do that with a flute. Then it's flute in A minor.

DO HOHOHOHOHO

>>1071651
looooool

>>1071651
DOOHOHOHOHOHO

>>1071643
Sure why not. Take pics, /b/ would love it.

be kind to your lolis, use an irish tin whistle instead

>>1071660
I use a fucking oboe.

Hey you fuckers, we actually all had to learn how to play the Recorder in my school. It was gay as hell.

my lolis all get my cello

and if they complain, i turn the cello the other way around

>>1071570
I agree. This is so fucking true. Even at good high schools this kind of shit happens all the time.

itt people who went to better suburban schools assume their experience was the rule rather than the exception and rail against anyone who inserts a little reality into their circlejerk

The public school system in America is fucked up in more ways than I can count, but I don't know if the rest of the world has it better. Regardless, if you honestly think it's fine, that proves your ignorance on the matter. Seriously.

Living in BC I can confirm that all the Japanese boys are really pansies. Even if they are more muscular than you, they're usually quite shorter and fear a pocket knife like an A-Bomb because it causes all their weeaboo fightin trickz to go to waste.

>>1071788
Education died a long time ago, along with drugless fun.

>>1071822
Where in BC

>>1071570
I had a similar issue. I wasn't especially good, but always found the curriculum extremely easy.

Then I found out my IQ was higher than normal (yet not godly so), and the school started making me take dozens of tests. By the time they were done, I was in eighth grade. They said I was eligible for an enriched curriculum, but that it would take 2-3k$ a year. We paid, and all I got was more homework.

Basically, all the education system is doing is making you used to working under a job-like system. If you really want to learn anything useful, you have to do it from your own initiative, since the system won't help you if it doesn't give it profit.

>>1070504
I went to school in japan. No sailor uniforms though ;_;
my school was catholicized (I looked like a catholic school girl)

>>1071952
Hello Marmite character.

>>1071862
Victoria

>>1071952 here

I was there for what would have been my 11th grade year... I spoke only a tiny bit of Japanese and am still not fluent (been 3yrs since I went) and I fucking got an 80 on a biology paper. IN JAPANESE. And I did quite well in my Kokugo class (Japanese)... fuck if I ever understood anything the American high schools "taught"

I did better considering the circumstance in Japan than the US.

>>1071984
hahaaa no waaaaay I thought you'd say Van

I'm in Vic too and I actually rarely see Japanese guys around. They're usually Korean/Chinese.

I just want to say that when I was in Japan, and all throughout Honshu, I never saw more than 3 Japanese who looked like they could even take me. I'm fucking 5'4", and the only people who looked slightly intimidating were construction workers, and fuck if I'd see any of that in any Japanese high school that I could successfully get into.

>>1071980
Where did you learn more?

ITT:
JUST LIKE ONE OF MY JAPANESE ANIMES

>>1072010
why was that the only thing you wanted to say

>>1071455
Starting a corporation like he did now would make you fail. Hard.

The economy isn't kind on small enterprises nowadays. It crushes you and if somehow you emerge, you get undeniably profitable buyout offers from multinationals that want to keep their market share intact.

Free thinking is dead.

>>1071984
>>1072008
I wish I lived in BC. In Quebec, all we have are goddamn Macdonald's eating niggers.

>>1072022
because someone mentioned bullying. I'm trying to see a country full of tiny stickmen with a crime rate at the global bottom having schools more intimidating than any of those in Amerikka.

>>1071788
I went to public schools in LA and even they weren't as shitty as the kind you fucks say. And LA public schools are pretty fucked up to begin with. But not to students who were pushed higher.

All I see in this thread are angsty teenagers who think they're too fucking smart for the world and how everyone is stupid and they're the shit and nobody can touch them.

>>1072008
That is true. The real Japanese usually go live in Fairfield, not Chinatown.

>>1072027

THIS JUST IN: BULLYING CONSISTS ONLY OF PUNCHING SOMEONE AND/OR STUFFING THEM INTO LOCKERS.

Seriously, are you straight out of /b/? I don't think you belong here if you don't know the first fucking thing about Japan's social ills. /b/ would appreciate internet tough guy posts about how you're so absolutely sure you could kick the ass of 99% of the people you meet a whole lot more.

but he be teh niggerz

>>1072024

Don't forget the double taxes, shitty quebecois political system and Pauline Marois, queen of infantile murder.

>>1072031

>All I see in this thread are angsty teenagers who think they're too fucking smart for the world and how everyone is stupid and they're the shit and nobody can touch them.

It must suck to be retarded.

>>1072024
My cousin lives in Montreal. It's amazing to see that there are EVEN MORE French-speaking weeaboos than there are here in N.B.. (Comparing the % of weeaboos to the non-japanophile student body)

I'd love to study abroad in Japan, just to see what its really like.

I find asian chicks hot, but I don,t want do go to a commie-country.

>Sometimes I wish I went to school in Japan
I would rage if this weren't a troll. Seriously, nothing is good about high school in Japan. It is not like your japaknees animes. It's just test after test after test, until you want to kill yourself. Right after the bullying.

I can't speak for Eurofags, but the top American high schools (as opposed to the inner city nigger schools and the suburban pothead schools) are good because you have to apply yourself.

And sage for internet tough guys and "herf derf i wanna fuck azn grls".

>>1072062
Yeah, I think we have an annual anime convention here in Quebec, too.
Unfortunately, I've yet to meet a weeaboo that isn't a complete retard.

>>1072044
so...Japanese bullying consists of a lot of word-slinging? I'm still not getting the "worse than Amerikka" part.

>>1072060
Oh right, look, here comes condescending douchebag. You know, I could tell you of all my academic achievements and try to establish e-cred like you are, but quite honestly, nobody gives a shit. The fact of the matter is you little fucks who make it their point to pretend to be "smart" are no more than little fags who spend their time taking online IQ tests and telling themselves they're smart.

Telling themselves they're too cool for school, oh yeah, you could totally teach your teacher's class and all that wankfest shit. Ah, look how stupid my teachers treat me, but I'm so smart, why won't they see how smart I am, boo hoo. I was doing calculus in 1st grade and building bridges in high school and now I'm a scientist working at JPL with my hot super model lawyer wife all no thanks to my stupid mom and teachers who don't believe in me.

>>1072110
Saved for future use.

>>1072110

While your tilting at windmills is amusing, it belongs on /b/.

>>1072123
butthurt because you're not so imaginary

>>1072090
Yeah, most weeaboos are retard. I like Japanese things to some extent, but people are becoming obsessed with anime. They think they're superior because they can remember two dozen kanji, sing over 9000 opening songs by memory and know where every anime convention is held every day of the year. They don't know a damn about the real history of the samurai besides some kind of Naruto-like mojo yet they keep bragging about their knowledge of all things Japanese.
Worst of all, most of them think they're too smart for schools and whatnot even if their grades are merely on par with what is asked of them.

If they really were that smart they'd quit their delusions already.

Oh yeah, and stop adding -san to everyone's name. It's making me wanna kill you with a machete (which your crappy internet-purchased katana will not cut through).

>>1072110
Not even going to comment over how much this fails.

>>1070514
Bullying is only going to affect you if you think japan is like in animes. It sucks just like everywhere else, only differently.

>>1072188

>>1072060
Remember that this encompasses over 95% of the weeaboo populace.

nothing hurts me more than seeing people say "I want to move to Japan" when what they really, obviously mean is "I want to move to Tokyo"

>The public school system is absolutely fucking atrocious. I was separated into the "gifted program" in my elementary school. It was not anything special. As far as I could discern they taught us the same stupid shit. When me and a few of the REALLY smart kids had literally gone way ahead of the rest of the class...
>In the end, I graduated from that dickbutt high school with honors. I stopped by the same dean's office on my way out from picking up my diploma (I didn't care to walk with my class; all of my friends were upperclassmen who'd graduated the previous year). Bitch was positively beaming as if she'd accomplished something great.
>Then I found out my IQ was higher than normal, and the school started making me take dozens of tests. By the time they were done, I was in eighth grade. They said I was eligible for an enriched curriculum, but that it would take 2-3k$ a year. We paid, and all I got was more homework.

The only thing I seem to find about the Japanese educational system that would give it an edge over the Canadian one is that it promotes (and often forces students in) extra-curricular clubs which actually helps give the students some productivity and social interaction outside of the crapfest that is a classroom where no one actually wants to be.

>>1072188
refer to >>1070940 and also >>1070949

>>1072231
Yeah I gotta say the idea of encouraging club activities would be a great addition.

>>1072023

That's funny, because 3 smaller companies are about to run Microsoft into the ground.

>>1072226
Yep, real gifted individuals learn that being smart is too cool for the system and then live normally without bragging about it.
I also paid for an enriched curriculum which only landed me with a slightly more glittery diploma which got me the same shitty job I'd have gotten anyhow.

Only autistic children go about bragging about their smarts like unearthly beings.

>>1072243
What? Macs aren't doing any good with their 6% market share.
What other two companies could you be talking about?

I think there's a common delusion that Japan actually is what it is like in Animu and Mangos. The Japanese are not colorful people; they are sterile people whose bright imaginations appear only out of the repression of their lives. The average Japanese is born into a quiet modest house, slapped by his parents until he is quiet in public, has lines drilled into him through elementary school, studies like a workhorse to get into middle and high school and college, studies like a workhorse to get through middle and high school and college, works with one of a million Japanese businesses as a piece of cubicle furniture until he retires at 60, then lives quietly with his family in a modest house drinking tea and eating rice until he dies 10-30 years later.

Because the Japanese are still human beings, as robotic as they live, they have to express themselves somehow. A uniform people with uniform appearances and uniform lives has to try to be different somehow. That's why they make wild movies and music and comics and animation and gameshows and idolize these people who don't have to stuff themselves into cubicles and can be the beautiful people walking the streets of Harajuku wearing fancy trends priced 8800 yen a t-shirt and up. Escapism is so popular in Japan, because their lives are so dull. I think it's only the severe limitation of lifestyle, that kind of constant safety in tedium, that lends them to having such longevity.

I remember back when I was in middle school there would be after school activities available to sign up for. There were sports, computer, christian, classes on just about anything. My mother caught wind of this, saw it as a good opportunity to have someone else babysit me after school, and signed me up for a jewelry making class. I was the only guy there, in a class with about fifteen girls. Soon after all the guys found out about this and I never lived it down. A little off topic, I know.

>>1072226

You understand that no one is bragging about doing 3rd grade math, right? Seriously. It was a fucking example of how that shit actually happens in the real world. There were a few legitimately bright kids (not me I just liked doing the easy as shit math we had in the textbooks at that point) in the so called "gifted" program, everyone else was just average as opposed to retarded.

The point is that they didn't ever so care about challenging us. They didn't even make the tiniest effort to at least look like it. It was just a dumb label to make parents feel good about having a "gifted" kid. At one point a teacher gave us a practice exam for a state-wide test that was literally the actual test for that year. We wound up having to retake it because she made us cheat. Bitch didn't care, she had planned to take a sabbatical that year. She just wanted to be able to ignore us and show good test scores to the principal.

Maybe the problem isn't that everyone is bragging about how smart they are, maybe the problem is that you have self-esteem issues leading to you being incredibly fucking over-defensive. Are you going to cry the next time someone comes along and says they scored 290 on some internet IQ test?

Jesus fucking Christ. Everyone on the internet who ISN'T talking about how they have aspergers and a 190 IQ is raging against anything that could possibly be construed as "I'm smart", all of you have fucking issues.

>>1072272
why the fuck didn't you just sign up for a real club? even at my school, the biggest in my shitty city with 1300 people, there are only a few clubs really worth joining and those are packed as shit. if we had like a sports club, a music lovers club, a proper law or politics club, I'd probably be on it.

>>1072240
Pointers like that should be taken in by other countries.

Also, I think the uniforms are a good idea.
(In b4 weeaboo japanophile)
They enforce decency of wear and actually help the children feel like they belong.

The problem nowadays is that school is hated by the students because they can't relate to it. And I can,t blame them: A crappy curriculum enforcing the views of old people who have no idea what you aspire to do in life.
Schools should be like a village of youth where the younger generation can go and learn while sharing their experience amongst their peers regardless of what they are outside their learning environment.

>>1072297
Real clubs weren't offered. This didn't last more than a month. I lived in a small town, that's the only excuse I can come up with.

>>1072297
Me too. The only clubs we have in our 650 student body are the soccer, hockey and (for girls) softball clubs.

We had a computer club late in my tenth grade, but they cut the funding because computers were ''too individual an activity to qualify as a social club''.

>>1070504
It will all sum up to

GOTTA STUDY FOR THE TOKYO UNI ENTRY TEST!!!!!

>>1072332
funding? all our clubs are self-funded.

>>1072338
At least they have standardization. SAT's don't count because they're not comparable to entrance exams.

>>1072272
My school didn't even have a jewelry making club. Only fucking athletics.

>>1072305
all but two of the 12 or so high schools in my city use uniforms. the last two are the gifted and magnet schools. the magnet school is the only one where people don't outrageously act out, and it's still full of stoners. the other schools are just full of drugs and rape and violence. the two non-uniform schools use a dress code for posterity, but here there is a direct correlation between the liberalness of a school and the performance and etiquette of the student body.

>>1072367
Same. Actually, I think all the clubs at my school were atheletic clubs, besides the drama club.

Mandatory club membership sounds like a good idea. I went to high school in LA and there were like clubs for everything, the foreign film club was actually just a bunch of weeaboos watching anime. Even a golf club. This was a public school too.

I don't think it has much to do with funding, but rather, how shitty your school is to not have a variety of clubs. I mean, stuff like a chess club doesn't require a penny.

>>1072305

Britfag here.

Uniforms are good on paper, but not in practice, they're uncomfortable and bland. Not to mention on the days where we were allowed to wear whatever we wanted, (which were far too rare), many people felt that they learnt more because they felt so much more comfortable during class.

>>1072379
Perhaps they could spend more money on better materials.

>>1072267
more sterile then americans? ever tried being "colorful" or "different" anywhere in the US besides california, seattle, or new york? Doesn't fly so much. We're not so different, us and the moonspeakers, we're just lazier.

>>1072378
oh, and a basket-weaving club too! among the many bizarre shit we had

>>1072267
That pretty much sums up Japan for you.

The only problem I see is that japanophiles think the normal life is just like Lucky Star.
Big news: It's not.
Japanese people need extreme hobbies to get rid of their freakishly dull lifestyle. Just like I, as a New-Brunswick resident, like going to highly urban settings because I'm sick and tired of living in my small fishing town. Neither are glorious, except the latter seems better to me since I have not been exposed to its downsides long enough.

>>1072364
SAT is standardized across the nation. What the hell you do you think standardization means? Being difficult? Well it doesn't.

SAT and ACT are the standards by which you are judged upon admissions, among many other things like personal statements. Here, all you have to do is study for one test, in Japan you have to study for all the several entrance exams, that's not what I would call standardized.

to continue on the note of mandatory clubs: when I went to Taira, we visited a music academy where the local school's traditional dance club was practicing. these people were dedicated, and they looked like they were actually having fun with what was a genuinely hands-on club. it's not just that we should have clubs of this sort in Amerikka, it's that we should have them with that sort of significance. all the schools' clubs in Amerikka are just shared interest groups; they never actually do things, other than a few convention-going clubs which just go to conventions.

>>1072404
Not saying SAT's are not difficult. I am saying that in the case of entrance exams, it is the only thing that counts for admission. Most universities in the US don't really care about the SAT's, or at the most factor it into 1/4 of admission decisions. That's not quite standardized.

Uniforms only work when they are strictly enforced and everyone is to buy from the same company. I went to a school with a half assed uniform policy, it defeats the purpose when you can tell the rich kids apart from the poor kids. Half of the teachers didn't care if you were out of uniform, while the other half were nazis about it; it was shit. All we were required to wear was a white golf shirt and khaki pants, even then people would wear button down shirts. Also, while the kids with money had no problems buying new clothes every year, the poorer kids would spend all their money on the uniforms and they would end up being forced to wear them outside of school. They couldn't afford any other clothes. To this day, I still have about ten pairs of khaki pants and shorts that I wear around the house.

>>1072412
Judging from my experience, this might only be something that happens in certain places, because the clubs at my school were serious business. Like this korean drumming class, they would go on parades and perform and all this neat shit. And the other non-sports competitive clubs like this thing we called science bowl, the academic decathlon and similar stuff would be serious about competition.

>>1072385
Yes. Poor materials account for over 99% of uniform complaints.

I mean having a jeans-and-white-tee wouldn't be very uncomfortable. Its just that the uniforms haven't evolved while everyday clothes have.
I go to a private school (nothing glamorous, just keeps the bums and retards out) and our uniforms are just nice. They're cotton pants with school t-shirts along with a longer-sleeved shirt in the winter. Its plain, functionnal and cozy.
When we can wear anything we want, I usually even wear my uniform, just with a t-shirt with the logo of something I like on it to make a statement.

>>1072386
actually, even in the shit city I live in I see color. all around the streets are loud music, loud talkers, vulgar humor between everyone. everyone's talking on cell phones, going to malls, going to concerts, on sports teams. in schools the children are talking all the time, in class or otherwise, actively moving about the school, and even the teachers like to make or join in on jokes; and you have this thing called "free time" at intervals. if you're not just a geek in America, you'll find yourself moving around a lot. for the Japanese youth, it's more like school is a 7-hour drill fest, where all you do is write and recite lines from every kind of book. then they go to clubs, to 5 or 6 in the evening, before coming home and sitting down to an hour long dinner. what the have left at night is just homework and TV watching. computers aren't even as common as you'd think they were.

>>1072412
Usually because if you try to do anything out of the ordinary, the administration gets pissed off and gives you the boot. This is possibly because they're worried that something bad may happen to somebody on some sorta club outing and end up suing the school. In fact, our love of taking legal action against absolutely everything is a major reason why America is so boring.

>>1071453
No John, you are the stupids.

>>1072425
Because American universities judge you more as a scholar. You ability to do well in a multiple choice exam only does so much to show admissions why you should be admitted.

>>1072418
You must live in a very, very poor neighborhood.
Most families that aren't on social welfare around here can afford the uniforms and still pay their childrens' college.

Heck, even African children wear uniforms. Its just because the enforcement sucked that your school failed. Way to go, lazy Americans.

>>1072457
How are you supposed to know if they're a scholar? Entrance exams also have essay portions, mind you. How are you supposed to compare 4.0 GPA and 3.6 GPA from two different schools?

>>1072461

newsflash, over 10% of the population is in poverty.

>>1072440
>our love of taking legal action against absolutely everything is a major reason why America is so boring.
Yes. Undeniably so.

>>1072386
you are not including a lot of major cities

>>1072461
>pay their childrens' college

I've got some incredible newsflash for you buddy.

Poor people don't pay their kid's college, neither do middle class (unless they've been specifically saving up funds for it). College's too fucking expensive in America. Everything's done with scholarships, state grants, FAFSA, and student loans.

>>1072461
Also, the state I lived in was rated one of the top three worst in the US in terms of education. That says a lot about the school's administration.

>>1072470
over 10% of the population can fuck itself.

Also, while we're attacking America, let me bring up another point:
The South.

Walking to school with a toast in a mouth, carrying a moeblob on my back and being hit by a tsundere. Yet these hands will never hold anything...

>>1072504
I forgot: being stalked by a yandere.

>>1072386
Being colourful ANYWHERE nowadays is actually the norm unless you live in some Amish paradise.

All I see now are girls dressed like preppy sluts, guys dressed like gangstas or the oh-so-nonconforming emos.

Just try going around in a well-tailored suit. People will look at you even weirder than if you actually went out shirtless with boxers coming out of your jeans.

>>1071651
I have never lol'd as hard to a single post as I did to this.

>>1072516
That just means the standards for "colorfulness" have changed.

>>1072499
I live in the south and I fucking hate it here. Sure it's a lot cheaper to live down here, but I have to deal with the most stupid shit on a day to day basis. I want to move when I get the cash, but I have no idea where. I don't like christians and I don't like big cities, so I think I'm kind of fucked.

>>1072499
Whats so wrong about the south?
Argentina has better literacy rates and higher overall student body satisfaction rates than the US.

>>1072564
DOHOHO

>>1072542
find a part of the south that doesn't suck quite so much. capital cities are probably your best bet. that way, you don't have to deal with northerners, and you won't be in a godamn swamp.

>>1072564
I'm pretty sure we're talking about the American south here, not South America.

>>1072542
lol @ religion.

>>1072516
>>Just try going around in a well-tailored suit. People will look at you even weirder than if you actually went out shirtless with boxers coming out of your jeans.
The sad part is that it's true.

>>1072295

>all of you have fucking issues.

And you do not? Apparently then, my friend, you are not fit to be Anonymous. The door is that way,please never come back.

>>1072577
Oh, you mean the bayou dwellers? Didn't Katrina wipe em?

Their populace is idiotic. I mean really, you don't have to learn how to program in binary, just k-12. But most of them quit because their parents need them to be wed to their cousins ASAP so that they can watch you supply them while they play banjo on the front porch for your children.

>>1072564
Student body satisfaction? Huhuhuhuhuh.

>>1072612
Sadly so.
>>1072639
Way to go generalizing there. Unfortunately, its true that they're not helping their own cause through inbreeding and early withdrawal from the (as shitty as it might be) education system.

>>1072612
>>1072516
Kind of depends where you live actually.

>>1072640
Oh god, I just realised the horrible pun. Nonetheless, I remember that article. I was published this saturday in The Sun. Didn't know there was more than 1 Britfag here.

>>1070596

you cannot ignore something that makes you sad

i wish i wouldn't be such a faggot, if it weren't for the bullying, i could enjoy life much more

>>1072673

>The Sun

Isn't that like... the Britfag version of the New York Post?

>>1072689
Is the New York Post a laughable tabloid?

>>1072673
I would say there's a lot.

the 40% tripfag is also British.

>>1072709

Yes, exactly that. Which is a shame because it was once a respectable newspaper. Fucking Rupert Murdoch.

Thread is filled with young-friends reminiscing about high school.

>>1072763
I once took a Computer science class in high school. Passed the class without coding a single line by fixing all the porn/virus ridden machines. It took the whole semester because they were running windows98 at the time.

In before windows98 was made broke, so on, so forth

>>1072711

>>1070947
>Almost every primary and intermediate school in America requires uniforms.
wat
I've only known that to happen in 1 out of 5 US cities I've lived in(Memphis), and that was only some schools.

Maybe you meant "has a dress code" or "bans gang colors", that's more common.

>>1071822
>>1072010

Bullying in Japan? Come on the Japanese couldn't bully their way out of an elementary school playground. In high school I learned all sorts of fun things, like how to TP somebody's house to make look like snow, egging rich kids houses, paintballing jocks cars, while at the same time being an Otaku. I'm 5'10" 224pounds there is not way 5'6" 120pound Japanese person is going to bully me, hell I've seen American women beat up Japanese men.

In high school I was an Otaku by day, Counter-Bully at night.

>>1073880
Yeah, they bully them to the point where they hang themselves or jump into trains. It's not a physical thing, usually. Unless a girl gets gangraped.

>>1073880
YOU'RE SO COOOOOOOOooooooool............

YOU'RE SO COOOOOOOOOOooooooooooool.......

>>1070947
lol no. Watch High School Musical.

>>1073901

Do you think its a cultural thing, I never really paid attention to verbal abuse? Maybe I'm insensitive, uh oh self-realizing moment!

>>1072461
>Heck, even African children wear uniforms. Its just because the enforcement sucked that your school failed. Way to go, lazy Americans.

African children wear uniforms because their parents want to show off that they're educated.

In Japan, one of the functions of a uniform is to tell people apart by school, so you know who's going to a good school and such. Americans use uniforms to enforce uniformity within the school, but not to show differences between schools. I don't know why, they have school rivalries in sports and stuff

>>1073939
>I don't know why, they have school rivalries in sports and stuff
Because we are capitalists and school support is best shown by buying school related hoodies and merchandise.