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What's different in New Game+? I was too lazy to play again.

>>10657795
why interest?

>>10657820
The angels, some other chracters, and some level 90 zones

>>10657820
There is a lot of new stuff in New Game+. A bunch of new stages with new characters, as well as 5 ultimate dungeons filled with Level 90 mythological monsters. They each have a gimmick. There are also the 4 mascot angels who have a unique way of getting new weapons.

Now making things up is a change I really commend Aroduc for even though normally it'd be the opposite, because apparently the original Japanese flavor text was incredibly dull. Descriptions were generic (Iron Sword: This is an iron sword) and the ultimate monsters all just had the same names with same flavor text, so it felt nice to have them have new names of much higher beings from mythology that fit them complete with descriptions.

>>10657795
What does sex with Suina feel like?
And why does she have pink nipples?
Do her feet smell?

>>10657827
because someone mentioned the name in another thread.

>>10657827
Aroduc translated a new game and that got a new thread. But since nobody played it yet and Kamidori got mentioned people stated discussing it instead of the new Aroduc game that nobody's played much of yet.

Do other Eushully games also have footjob content like Kohakuren's intense one? Or do they not since other ones tend to be more rape centric?

what do i have to do to deal with misanshel? there isn't any clue on who i should talk to

30 hours in...
somewhere after the dragon escort mission...
i stopped playing...

>>10658418
you didn't even fug the grim reaper ?

what a pleb

>>10658378
General advice for whenever you don't know what you're supposed to do next in the game is to try leveling up the main character, as some events are restricted by his level.

I'm sure you can find a guide with the required levels somewhere. I think I found one before on the translation website.

>>10658508
i got bored....
i feel like continuing but... i dont really remember some of the front parts...

>>10658418
Yeah, I personally thought that the gameplay got really boring after a while, and basically became a chore.

I played through it three times (once each route) and now I love clown girls! There should be more clown girls! How come I don't see any in almost any other eroge I touch?

You know, the best part of New Game+ is the new uniforms with the Undress skill. So lewd!

>>10659639
Hahaha that was great, I didn't even notice it at first! Top reason to watch the animation.

Is there a character tier list?

What's your favorite character in the game?

>>10661612
The fox woman. I fucking love her voice and I'm not even a masochist.

>>10661983
Likewise.

>>10661983
That toe...

Does it hurt like hell in real life to have a hot chick's toenail jamming down your urethra? Or is there at least some degree of pleasure if you're a big foot fetishist? I love feet but not pain...

>>10665027
My brother has scar tissue in his urethra from .. I don't know what it is from, some injury when he was a child I guess. but he has to stick a long metal pole down his urethra every day because otherwise sediment from urine builds up and he can't pee. Haven't asked him if it feels good or not but thinking about it sends shivers up my spine...

>>>/vg/

>>10665630
Did he show it to you and discuss his dick scars with you over brews or something

I wish I had a bro to talk about dicks with

Played this thoroughly back when the translation was released.

120+ hours, every dungeon cleared, every dress maxed, most characters fountained at least once, more so on characters I actively used.

I never beat the loli route, though, because my save got lost/corrupted or something. I will never touch this game again, for I have seen every single thing it has to offer, and then some. I can't be fucked to redo it all just to finish the loli route that I was 50% already through.

My only regret.

>>10665649
more like he goes to the emergency room at 3:00 in the morning one night. He calls me and is like "I need someone to take me home, too drugged up to drive" I ask what happened. He had to have emergency surgery to drain his bladder and then told me about the dick thing

>>10665655
get somebody to give you a save file, might not be exactly the same but at least you'll get on the route.

>>10665665
Wait, so getting his dick sucked hard would literally have health benefits, assuming the girl(?) sucked out the buildup?

I'm trying to find better versions of some images from the artbook - like separated and larger versions of ones in this pic. Any help with that?

Also, dakimakuras.

I'm looking for their larger versions too.

>>10669078
>>10669079
>>10669085
Are they not on EX-hentai?

Also, what are people's current thought on Elizasleyn ? I remember when the game was first translated most people hated her guts and wanted to have her be chained to town square as a public cum dumpster. What about now?

this games's NG+ system is so awful I couldn't even do more than one route

>>10670993
>Elizasleyn

I don't know what the common rabble thought when the game was first translated, but I loved the absolute shit out of her.

Used her in my party, and masturbated to her h-scenes a few times and everything. She was the best angel.

>>10671000
What, what? What's wrong with its NG+? You have options on what you want to carry over and there's a lot of new content.

>>10671124
I really want to lick her feet

I guess a lot of people were just pissed off about her attitude and her threatening you. They loved the hell out of the other angel and hated Eliza, but I personally like Eliza better.

>>10657795
Thank you for properly using spoilers.

>>10671184
you are welcome!

>>10671176
>I guess a lot of people were just pissed off about her attitude and her threatening you.

Man what. That was the best part. Getting threatened, yelled at, and physically assaulted is good shit. To turn the tables around later is even better.

Her h-scene was ludicrously satisfying, in many ways.

The other angel was just fucking boring. Her scenes were shit, and she was useless in combat.

>>10670993
>Are they not on EX-hentai?
I got the artbook from there, yes.
The dakis aren't. I found them by accident, probably in some older Kamidori threads.

Also, where does this image come from? I found in on either Gelbooru of Sankaku, but is it from another artbook?

And regarding Eliza, I'm cool with her. Her personality is pretty amusing, and seeing Wil dominate her (extra stories scenes) is great.

Two slutty angels, beach ball demon, reaper were my favorites.

>>10671202
> To turn the tables around later is even better.

Having to flood her uterus with sperm to seal the contract was what finally won me over

An adorable little ball of violence and murder and demon orgies

>>10671751
I don't know what I expected, but it made me mad as hell.

>>10671806
How new are you to Eushully games?

>>10671811
I think it was my first experience with the company. I still would prefer a murder.

>>10671822
You may prefer this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJhbEmHfzS8

>>10671841
Is that where Serawi's cameo armor comes from?

>>10671841
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJhbEmHfzS8

Looks like something straight out of the nineties.

>>10671743
>reaper
YES.

So, are there lolis in this game?
Is there a loli main heroine?
Can you enjoy this game while only focusing on loli chars (if there are any)?

>>10672438
Yes, to all of those.

>>10672438
No, she is 21

>>10672958
If it looks like a loli and behaves like a loli, it IS a loli. We all know this.

>>10673062
Not to me. Nadeshiko in Wanko to Kurasou was 28 and I thought of her as such

>>10673083
*Everyone* looks loli in Wanko. That doesn't count.

Starting my 2nd play through, going for elftits
What should I know? Can I get the church girl on the first chapter?

>>10673482
No, you get the church girl after chapter 7. You need to complete a lvl 60 and a lvl 70 dungeon, one which requires the angle with the long name

>>10673482
Don't expect anything from the plot. Just take it easy and enjoy.

I remember you have to spend a lot of money at her shop, forgot how much.

There are a lot of new events and dungeons, along with new characters. Train your main characters as an insane adorable clown will come to try to rape you with a dragon dildo. There are new dungeons that will open up in the mine of the starting town.

Was there an item that duplicated drops? You should be on the lookout for different types of beads, as they are extremely rare and needed for a bunch of high-tier crafts.

In particular, Fairy Bead, Fiend Bead, Angel Bead, Dragon Bead, and Devil Bead. However the last two are obtainable if you Deadbeat-perhaps the only acceptable reason for deadbeating, as the amount needed is insane and you would need to beat the game over and over many times if you're not careful about getting as much as you can each run.

The main characters were crap compared to the others. Generic girl with a sword, walking pair of tits and generic loli.

>>10673551
I like Yuela's design because of the feathers in her head. I just can't get enough of Native American motifs.

>>10673528
> effort on ng+ playthroughs

Doing it wrong

http://games.seiha.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=271%20howto:%20cheat

>>10673551
But they're rather delicious tits

>>10673551
I never finished other routes except Yuela's. Should I finish others too?

I liked Yuela. Except H-scenes were pretty awful with sounds.

>>10673738
You haven't done Emilita's route yet? It's the best. Seriously. So lewd and lovely at the same time.

Personally, the only route I haven't played (yet) is Elftits'.

>>10673738
Serawi had best VA (Haru from G-Senjou), Emilita had the closest thing to a decent storyline.

You should play NG+ at least once for all the new content. Preferably on Hard Mode for a fun challenge.

>>10673764
But I don't like it when gamex are challenging...

>>10673812
But that's the whole point of games.

>>10673764
>Serawi had best VA (Haru from G-Senjou)
w-wait... are you sure? i used to love haru's voice, her laugh makes my heart goes doki-doki. but i can't recognize the voice in serawi, even though i've played the route

>>10679924
Yes, Kawashima Rino is a pro eroge seiyuu, and has quite a range of roles she can play

>>10679958
now that's interesting. i'll play the game again just to hear her voice. thanks anon!

>>10679958
getting really fucking tired of her showing up in almost every eroge I play.

>>10657795

>>10680063
I can't play an eroge without her voice in it.

finished Serawi & Yuela Route.
some people said that Emilita route is the best route, but i'm already tired of playing. ;_;

>>10681778
put it down
come back to it in a year when you're bored one day

Is there anything else like this game out there?

The only things I have played that are this good is the Venus blood games but none of them are translated. Rance hates little girls so I cant play those ones.

Is there a better way to grind for gems for that timed quest for Hannah than killing kankuri in the chaotic warground? All I've got after like 5 or 6 40-turn clears of the map is a few sapphires, even using Ful's Mills.

>>10682060
If you want other similar games, you could check what else Eushully has done...

>>10682120
I have heard that the Ramen shop spawns bags of games. Its 30,000 from the mysterious shop in Lake of Souls. Not sure if its what you are looking for.

>>10682122
Not really sure. I have played many of these VN type games but apart from the Venus blood games none have blown me away with their game play and visuals like this one. If this game exists there must be other games like it out there.

>>10682135
No, you need 5 sapphires, 5 topazes, and 5 emeralds for the quest. I've got plenty of bags of gems.

>>10682135
>If this game exists there must be other games like it out there.
Yeah, like the first game in the Meister-series, Himegari. Also from Eushully. Are you stupid or something?

>>10682150
So the treasures are also used in quests? Thats good to know. I sold some of what I had.

>>10682180
Most of them aren't, but this is an exception.

>>10682196
Well thanks for the heads up. Took me about 20 minutes to decide if it was worth selling some shit because I had a feeling some of it would be needed in a quest at some point. I dont think the items I sold are on that list though.

Luckly now, I dont need to sell treasures. Im rich.

>>10682206
Rich eh? Try upgrading some clothing and see how rich you really are.

>>10682207
I was warned not to waste money on that. That could be why I am wealthy. It also helps that my clerks make me 3-5k everytime I leave town. Emelita is my Donald Trump.

>>10682222
Some skills are hardly a waste to pick up despite the price... Mostly double action, but that's NG+. Funny enough, the ultimate skill from any piece of clothing I've fully upgraded has turned out to be pretty worthless.

>>10682222
Armour upgrades are how heroines get most of their skills that are actually decent. The two NG+ armours for each heroine are probably the most important ones to upgrade as they give them skills like Double Action but some the earlier armour also have broken skills like prevail.

I got 999 items and an emerald ain't one. Please tell me there's an easier way to do this than go through this place about... based on drop rates so far, another 30 times?

>>10682270
Savescum.

>>10682317
How would that make things any faster?

Anyway, I found the perfect place to farm topazes, got all 5 I need from a single pass, but I've still yet to ever see an emerald, so I can't even check what drops them. Is there a place where they're easy to find? Then I just need another 2 sapphires.

Is there any other way to find a single fairy beads than beating Philleas or whatever her name was?

No spoilerAL?

>>10682323
There is a lawn furniture that spawns emeralds. I assume you have used google.

>>10682323
Only other mob that drops them is in the Phema Mountains so if I remember correctly you are probably too low level to farm them. Do you not have Ful's Tears so you get 4 drops a kill by equiping both Fuls?

>>10682331
Nope only Phinilly drops them and only her fakes drops fairy wings.

>>10682391
Do the increased drop rate items only apply to the character that gets the kill?

>>10682404
Yes which is why the best drops you can get is 4 because a character can't equip two Tears but can equip a Tears and a Mill.

Ive been having this recurring problem. I cant seam to change accessories from Aht. She is not cursed and these are not cursed items, just normal shit like shields. Any idea?

>>10682173
I heard it's not really like this though as it's more RTS-like with spawning army of generics as opposed to all unique units with unique weapons

>>10682597
You know, that is a good point. I think thats part of the aspect that makes the combat part of the game so interesting. Not sure if I could get in to it as much if it was not as complex as it is.

>>10682597
And, when you combine that with the visual art, its really just as good as any console game. Who needs 3D when you have glorious 2D.

>>10682597
>I heard it's not really like this though
It's about as close as it gets to Kamidori without actually being Kamidori. Only dumbfucks ask for something similar while actually expecting the exact same thing.

>>10682494
If your out fighting and she is back at you store as a clerk - then you wont be able to change her items.

>>10684068
No. Happens just about anytime but not always. I rarely leave her in the shop, shes not a good clerk.

I was looking at the wiki and it says that Crayls max level needs to be 24 to complete his quests. Is this true? I have him at 25 and would like to permanently stick him in my shop as a clerk with the exceptions of his story dungeons.

>>10665027
Some people really get off on it but I can tell you from having a catheter put in once, having something shoved in your dick is very painful.

>>10685976
You only need to hear stories about kidney stones to know that shit hurts. Hell, ever got soap in there before a piss?

>>10685976
>>10686754

That one fetish where you widen your urethra by sticking progressively larger things it horrifies me to end.

>>10686786
So, you piss like a garden hose? That would be embarrassing in public urinals.

>>10685056
If you have 2 accessories, you need to unequip one to equip another.

>>10686816
Thanks for the information. That is kinda weird. Guess it was an oversight in development.

Is there any way to know what weapons are cursed? So far I have only been stuck with demon things. I kinda like this thing they came up with. Just good to know whats cursed and whats not in combat.

Why does Wil suck so much? I groaned verbally when I was stuck with him for the Emeilita quest.

>>10686832
Not really, how is it meant to know out of the two accessories which one you want to replace?

>>10686907
He gets a lot better, by end game he will probably have the highest defence in the party and is one of the earliest characters you get Double Action with. Plus he uses hammers which are probably the second best weapons in the game.

>>10686940
Usually the company will make slot 1 the default. Makes more sense than just blocking any accessory swapping so it looks broken.

>>10686940
What so you consider the best? I find all the weapons to be good if you carry enough around to exploit elemental weaknesses.

While double action is nice, I find being capable to respond to situations with something other than death to be more useful. I just have him run around mining and hitting weaklings.

Does he ever get new clothes? He is upgradable, I would assume he can get new armor at some point.

>>10686952
Wil actually gets a LOT better. He can easily keep up with the broken ng+ characters.

>>10686952
Wil in late game is nigh indestructible if outfitted with a Chronos gem or two. Instant death attacks are pretty much the only thing you need to watch out for.

Plus, you know, early Double Action+Adventurer make him incredibly useful to have. His only real weakness until NG+ is a lack of elemental weapons.

>>10686964
>>10686981
Neither of you answered my question though. Does he get a new set? I may dump some money in to his clothes if its the only set he gets.

>>10686952
He does get new clothes, the point he does is about the point he starts being pretty good and Wil dying end game will be a pretty rare occurrence with his absurdly high defence stats. End game gloves tend to be the most useful weapon in my opinion. There are several elemental gloves that all have 40-55 Str and Int as well as pretty high crit rates. For example Razor gloves which have Str and Int of 54 I think it is and a crit stat of 30. Plus it gives you the spell Rail Gun which is an Omni spell with one of the best ranges in the game. End game maces tend to have some good elements and are around the same Str range but usually only focus on Str and don't give as good spells.

>>10686981
The high level hammers have a really good fire, earth and wind options. Most things will be weak to one of those so I wouldn't really say he has a lack of them. Plus his ultimate weapon has something like 70 Str and is Omni so even without weaknesses to exploit he can hit pretty hard. Plus it has forcefield so things have to get into melee with him.

>>10686952
He gets better clothing on Chapter 7, iirc. Although don't hold your breath hoping for amazing skills.

>>10686993
Maybe I should emphasize this part of my post:
>His only real weakness until NG+
>until NG+

>>10686998
Sorry, misread that as 'only real weakness in NG+'.

Why is Aht so shit in this game. Despite allegedly being a tank character, in actual combat, she tends to be even squishier than Melodiana (my second squishiest melee char), given that the latter can actually kill enemies before they get too many shots off.

>>10687023
Perhaps you are doing something wrong? My Aht is 5 levels higher then the rest of my team from tanking bosses.

What I do is skip attacking and just leave her in the way, like a tank and use Iron Wall. She soaks up a lot of damage unless shes getting hit with wind based attacks.

When a weapons has -- as its elemental damage type, whats that mean?

>>10687038
My Aht is about the same level as the rest. I'm doing the Yuidora Mine EX maps atm and it feels like I can't go a single turn without bringing Aht back from the brink of death.

I think the RNG must've screwed me hard because in spite of having some of the highest max HP in my team, she has some of the lowest CON.

>>10687066
Omni. No elemental modifiers used when calculating damage.

>>10687081
Thanks.

>>10687079
I dont know, I put shields and rings on her to up her constitution. Shes a hard ass for me.

Is it possible to get Electric Bones in chapter 5? I have all these damn alchemy recipes and no bones.

>>10687170
Dijenel Borderland. Should be open.

>>10687182
Well the general area is but only a free map and it does not contain Electric bones.

>>10687186
If you lead the dog to the event point, it opens a cave where you can excavate stuff.

>>10687189
Yeah, thats the map. Ill head back there and do that a few times. I didnt get any the first time I went there.

Some stuff going on with Seiha forum, probably. The "active" subforum is gone, which may or may not mean that -something- is completed.

>>10687214
Could just be Minna Daisuki Kozukuri Banchou.

>>10687229

I hope it's not Aroduc releasing a patch in some stupid joke form again.

>>10687239
>april 1
>expecting anything other than stupid jokes

Does anyone know if there is a full rip of all the games art out there?

I have seen the 500 mg cg set but I am talking about a full rip. Sprites, action shots, gifs, the wurks.

I read that Hannah cant join until a new game+. I can spend the 80k at her Church to trigger her event. Is this just a dead end in the first play through and a waste of 80k?

>>10690745
It's a waste on the first play through.

>>10690762
Thanks. Thought it could be.

>>10690745
Well, you still get an H-scene, I think. Either way, you likely won't be hurting for money in NG+, so it's not a big loss.

>>10690774
Yeah but I dont like wasting money or girls. I think Hannah is worth the wait. Would be like defiling her alternate universe self.

Which one?

>>10657795
I'm still baffled at how Suina changed to being more proactive and seductress-like after combining with her other self

btw, anyone notice that Kohakuren's VA is actually Izumi Maki? that lady who often voiced loli with exquisite voices like Komari?

oh, and Hannah and Serawi tied for the second place, while Emilita is the first for my taste

>>10691254
I dont feel like caring about your picture but im going to say Sharty, best voice, best body, best fighter.

>>10691254
The only ones even remotely worth considering are the top 3, naturally.

Anyone who disagrees must be some sort of fag.

>You will never be an Alchemist gathering a harem of monster girls to learn all their secrets, emphasis on "all".

Does Evasive I II III stack?

>>10691546
Yeah well, I'd rather be a cute girl Alchemist doing cute things with my cute girlfriend.

>>10691644
Who says you cant wish for both? Im sure there are plenty of cute little monster girls out there.

>>10691628
No. But they are applied after the 100% chance-to-hit cap, meaning that if you have Evasive 3, you will always have <80% chance to be hit (unless the enemy has Focus).

>>10691254
Last one.

>>10691762
Thanks for the information. I have had Yuela running gimped.

>>10691628
You can tell when skills don't stack if one of them is darkened when both are active.

By the way, Evasive/Sword Flash/Flash Step and Counterattack/Vorpal Counter don't synergize. Evasive will not increase your chance of counterattacking, nor will Sword Flash/Flash Step.

whats the best way to make NG+ fun? I really want to experience the other routes AND the new content but i've been breezing through a bunch of underleveled mob and its really boring

>>10691808
Correct description for Counter/V. Counter is "chance to dodge an attack and deliver a counterattack", not "chance to counterattack when you dodge".

BTW, what's the difference between Flash Step and Sword Flash?

>>10691825
Play on hard mode.
Play main game with lvl1 bonus characters whenever you can.

>>10691825
You had the option to remove the stage level caps from generic mobs at the beginning of the game.

Otherwise, you'll just have to bear with it for a while. Roka's quest chain becomes available fairly early on so you just wait for that. Accept Tian's offer when he comes to your workshop asking for a favour.

>>10691833
Sword Flash is just a better version of Flash Step, although not available to all characters and costing more CP.

If that other Aht poster from above is still around.

I had a event for Aht were Wil and her fought the rest of the team to teach her some new moves. Got a massive stat bonus and a combo attack with Emelita. Shes even more powerful now. Shes going to become a titan at this rate.

>>10691808
>Counterattack/Vorpal Counter
Is it advantageous to use these two together?

>>10691859
Yeah, I'm still here. I extrapolate from your writing that you're still pretty early in the game (maybe ~Chap 5?). I remember Aht not being completely useless at the beginning too. She fell off pretty quickly after that though as she doesn't gain any other significant power boosts, unlike many other characters.

By the way, in the endgame, Aht will be your fastest character. (In terms of movement range, not speed.)

>>10691867
Well, they'll both have a chance to trigger during an enemy attack, although never at the same time.

Personally, I'd use that extra skill slot for something else.

>>10691877
I wonder what the chances are.
If it's something like 30% each then it's pretty significant.

30% dodge + 30% dodge + your usual evasion roll before you get hit.

I wouldn't be surprised if Counter Attack has higher percentage than Vorpal, and is actually better despite being cheaper

>>10691884
According to an authoritative source, both have the same activation rates.

Counterattack I/Vorpal Counter I: 10%
Counterattack II/Vorpal Counter II: 15%
Counterattack III/Vorpal Counter III: 20%

Although from personal experience though, I'd say it seems Counterattack has a 80/85/90% activation rate and Vorpal Counter, 40/45/50%... in the hands of the enemy.

Vorpal Counter is extremely useful against certain enemies, but I agree that counterattack is usually a better choice if you're tight on CP and already deal considerable damage.

>>10691884
By the way, there are gems that increase skill activation rate by a set percentage.

>>10691908
Looks like I have one. The Clotho gem increases 2%.

Might be worth it for a build.

>>10691903
Would you kindly post that table here? I'm trying to find it now, but no success so far.

>>10691917
Perhaps so. There are also gems that increase skill rate by 3% and 5%.

By the way, your math above is a bit misleading; I'm pretty sure the probabilities are multiplicative instead of additive.

>>10691924
Too big to post, I'll give you a link instead:
http://www44.atwiki.jp/kamidori/pages/46.html

It's in Japanese, but not terribly hard to figure out.

>>10691949
>5%
Woah, that's pretty significant. With 4 slots that become 20% suddenly.

>>10691954
Well the caveat is that you can only find one on Yuela's route. And I think another one in one of the NG+ maps.

Also, I'm pretty sure they're used to synthesize one or more of the ultimate weapons.

Regardless, most of the time, you probably won't be running around with 4 of them equipped.

>>10691953
Thank you.

>>10691949
>>10691954
Good skills to use with such gems:
Flurry
Pierce
Ferocity
Counterattack
Vorpal Counter
SwordFlash

And in theory Intimidate as well, though I'm not sure if it's actually a good skill.
And I have no idea how Preemptive works.

Man, the way they initialize some of these h-scenes makes me wonder.

>Ahh Aht is a real girl now!
>Mastah, lets do it!

>I have saved the loli from the Pedo!
>I guess Ill fuck her to give her good memories from almost being raped!

Not that im complaining.

Also, if your build is heavy on Counterattack and Vorpal: adjust the clothing to favour Luck over Speed.

>>10692003
>Onii-chan, I didn't mean to hide it from you, but I'm your imouto.
>Oh, that's pretty cool. Let's fuck.

>This is where my sister died...
>Oh God, this is making me so horny.

>>10691980
Trying to group these skills

Intimidate would work best with Flurry, Pierce, Ferocity

Counter Attack, Vorpal, and other Evade skills are useless for Intimidate.

Preemptive is really darn useless isn't it?

>>10692038
Even more useless than Aht.

What situations effect whether or not a combo will go off?

I sometimes have characters next to each other, mana full, combo enabled for them both but, no combo.

>>10692038
Its only use is if it's enemy's turn and it's half-dead and hits hard - you can kill it before it hits you.
Which is to say, pretty damn useless.

>>10692054
Range.
Range-0 combos require the partner to stand next to the enemy.

>>10692064
Ohh, I see. Thank you.

Did any of you guys actually use the combos at all?

I found that by the time I actually had them, most of my characters were strong enough to annihilate everything in their path by themselves. Even on the first playthrough, Yuela stomped everything with little strategy required.

>>10692054
During melee attacks, the attacking unit is considered to occupy the tile of the defending unit during the attack, therefore a formation like

12
X

where X is the enemy unit would only permit a melee combo if 2 was the attacking unit.

The same principle applies for other skills that affect adjacent tiles like Cover or Battle Orders.

>>10692071
Killing the quest garuda with Serawi&Wil duo.
1-shotting Lacus Lenia w/ Crayanna/Crayl.

I found it kinda stylish, but not necessary.

>>10692071
I only used combos once in the game. During my first encounter with an Erdgeist.

>>10692071
Serawi had a pretty strong range 5 combo.

>>10692071
Yeah, because Yuela isnt omnipresent.

How do you suppress the prayer grounds map in 6 turns? I cant see any way to even move trough it in 6 rounds with out every character having double turns and getting lucky.

>>10692135
Use teleport stones.

>>10692135
Just use the warp gates and flight bracelets? It was pretty easy iirc.

Where can I find Enraged Halphas? I met regular and child ones in Devil Bird Nest first visit, but there was nothing afterwards.

>>10692162
Kill the children first.

>>10692054
>mana full
It's a double drain, so both characters need enough mana.
It took me a while to figure that out.

>>10692054
Btw, you don't have to equip the combo on both characters.

>>10692179
All of them?
Also, is it worth doing, other than for the dictionary's sake? Does it have better drop or something?

Woah, I just figured out how to make Emelita not suck. Her Swan robe is probably her best clothes by far. It lets her fly, AND it's configurable to +14 speed with the right gems.

Best power clothes
Yuela, earth
Serawi, fire
Emelita, ice

Best looking clothes
Yuela, multi
Serawi, ice/wind
Emelita, multi

>>10692240
>Best power clothes
Yuela, cameo
Serawi, cameo
Emelita, cameo

Specify if you mean non-NG+.

>>10692248
I don't have those clothes yet ;_;

>>10692240
The best clothes are the ones that make them strip as they take damage.

>>10692252
Which is... cameo armors.

I adjusted her ice armor for Speed, Intelligence and Evade.

But I'm not sure if 95 hit is good. Should I go for Hit instead of Evade?
Or a mixed balance?

>>10692294
If she has problems with hitting things, go Hit. Otherwise, go Evd. It's simple.

>>10692294
>>10692311
On second thought, perhaps I should just go full Hit, and rely completely on Projectile defence.

That skill has worked amazingly for Serawi so far.

Is Aroduc planning to translate Soukoku no Arterial?

Someone help me with a skill set for Serawi. I just can't get her right. While I believe everyone agrees that Yuela is a walking rape machine right from the start, and Emilita can do amazing damage with her spells, Serawi just doesn't compare. I can give her 9 range attacks, but she hits for puny damage. Or, I give her some kaboom spells, but then she dies to anything that crosses her path.

Fuck, this is hard.

>>10692461
Honestly I just didn't use Serawi much on the first playthrough. I don't remember he ever being that useful until she had her cameo armour.

>>10692461
Ferocity, Prevail, Undress/pierce, 9 range attack.
Works for me.

>>10692461
Elf Princess Outfit + Undress + Ball Throw / The other ball move = She becomes a ranged Yuela

>>10692461
512 kills so far. She's wonderful.

And the Fire armor is adjusted for strength and Ares gem
>>10692487

>>10692487
That's a power of 2.

>>10692487
>Sales 700
What is this sorcery.

More like power of slut.

>>10692508
I put everybody in my shop at a point to sell off 6 million worth of crates and barrels.
Then Serawi hit dat number and and I pulled her out.
I wish it had hit 666 or something.

>>10691838

fuck did i? I missed it. are the rewards scaled too?

also already did roka's chain. anyone else's yuela is just a fucking beast at doing everything? she's level 55 but nothing ever hits her and she decimates about anything with x3 100 hits

>>10669085

http://nizigen.is-mine.net/20120523.htm

Sadly, I don't know how to download the full size image from yahoo.

>>10692461

Endgame she's the weakest of the 3. She's still strong enough to be worth using though.

>>10693009
Are you not playing on Hard Mode no level caps?

My Yuela was not so great in my second playtrough.

>>10693228


i wanted to hard for my first playthrough but everyone told me it was bullshit hard so i kinda forgot about it

i really missed the remove cap option though. i'll use it for elftits since i'm at like chapter 6 with emi

also my yuela just seems invincible, she literally dodges everything. am i gonna go against things that attack with undodgeable shit at some point?

>>10693285
The Free Map in Rosean mountain had a pretty beastly monster which my Yuela couldn't handle. She got killed outright because she was too low level.

>>10693285
Enemies with Reflect can cause Yuela to rape herself.

Will goes from average to God tier when he gets the double action skill.

>>10693478
Yes. And if you want to cheese optimally, savescum his levelups for the STR stat.

I figured out too late. My Wil unfortunately had a mixture of other stats. His STR stat was never anywhere near its potential max cap ;_;

Hey can any one help me I was going to start playing this tonight but for some reason this is the fullscreen I get

>>10693478
I have the double action skill for Wil. So how is he god tier? If you double "shit" its still shit.

>>10693664
Play it in a window. Looked like shit when I had mine on full screen.

>>10693627
>cheesing

autismmmmmmmmmmm

>>10693752
Huge HP, strong constitution, decent strength.>>10693627
It's basically double damage, double speed, double utilization.

>>10693768
Shit^2 = a lot of shit.

>>10693793
In this case my Wil had twice the damage output of Yuela per round, and he could walk twice as far.
That's not shit by any means.

>>10693812
getting yuela double action is easy tho

>>10693820
But Wil gets to that point faster. In the first game even.

I need insect shells. Anyone know of a good map for them? Ive hit that desert one several times with the worms but I have yet to get any.

>>10693991

http://kamidori.seiha.org/index.php?title=Materials

so I want to take that water elemental and make her into a rape machine

how would one do that

>>10694075
Find some enemies weak to ice, level her up until she gets 3 range spell. And it's much easier from there.

I think I used the teleporting wraith/ghosts in the dead forest to level her up.

>>10694075
Get her a bowling ball.

>>10694075
A lot of characters fall off in effectiveness quite badly as the game goes on, unfortunately.

>>10694126
Is your only bet really, but it's a bit ridiculous

>>10694126
The Bowling Ball was clearly intended to be NG+, so if you take this advice, the game will be rather unbalanced.

>>10694133
>>10694132
>>10694126
>>10694106

someone told me something about her stats capping really fast, what did they mean?

>>10694136
Every stat has a cap to it that raises at certain points, and Suina will hit those stat caps fairly early on, leaving you with several dead levels, as well as her very lack-luster skillset.

>>10694133
>>10694132
Well, he wanted to turn her in to a rape machine. Thats pretty much the definition of a rape machine.

>>10694142

does that mean no matter how hard i try suina will never surpass someone at the same level? thats pretty gay

>>10694136
All characters' stats are capped (gray line in the status screen). The caps are removed around lvl 50, but many reach the cap before that and lose several levelups' worth of stats.

>>10694149
You could pull of SpoilerAL and make changes as desired, but not unless you cheat, no. Most of your characters start to fall off in NG+ anyway, so use who you want.

>>10694149
I actually like the idea of inequality.

Seriously, Someone like Grapthal and Paraskevas should be stronger than lower tier mana creatures.
Those two should have been overpowered NG+ creatures in accordance to lore. That's how I would make it if I could design the game.

>>10694167
Overpowered is a bit of a strong word. I think certain characters should be stronger at the start but I also think that hard work deserves to be rewarded. As this game revolves around an alchemist, its not impossible to think that he could find ways to increase the power of any of his party members beyond what nature intended.

>>10694199
The dragon raped the entire caravan all by itself. With several alchemists like Wil and Laguna.
Paraskevas filled one of the maps with huge laser beam and halved the entire map's HP.

I didn't feel their capabilities reflect this when 'I got them as playables.

>>10694150
>The caps are removed around lvl 50
I think the exact level is 40.

>>10694231
My party was actually raping that dragon when his plot armor came off.

>>10694261
The point it, it's not supposed to be mere plot armor. He was supposed to be much stronger.

>>10694268
Perfect concentration is plot armor. Your own party gets it when the plot requires them not to die.

>>10694272
>>10694261
I don't know if you're a new guy butting in, but you're missing the point made in the conversation.

>>10694280
His current point is that plot armor is just part of his power, its not. That dragon was my bitch when it came off.

>>10694288
So the dragon owned the entire caravan of guards and alchemists, not because it was strong, but because it was plot armor?
Why would you even support such a shitty standpoint?

>>10694304
Because I could take any of my characters who also had the same plot armor and have a standoff until one of sides died from old age.

>>10694316
You're not making any sense.

You're saying the reason you support shitty writing is because...?

>>10694323
Writing had nothing to do with it. The caravan was just a bunch of pussy merchants and the alchemist hunting party were just low grade cannon fodder, Wil even implied this. Once the dragon ran in to his party members, he didnt stand a chance. The plot armor was there to make sure he didnt die before the end scene. He would have died immediately if not for it.

>>10694366
>Writing had nothing to do with it.
The writing (the way the game mechanics are implemented) has everything to do with it. Eushully simply chose to show it in-game in a lazy way, when instead they should have made the dragon stronger in different ways. And you're actually supporting the lazy implementation.

>He would have died immediately if not for it.
The entire purpose of those events was supposed to be Eushully conveying to the player that the Dragon is mad strong.
It wasn't supposed to be Eushylly conveying to the players that the Dragon is in reality very week and that you simply have to wait for the next map so his plot armor wears off.

See the difference?

>>10694387
What you are complaining about is game mechanics, not writing. Learn the difference.

>>10694420
Of course. I've always been saying the Dragon should have been stronger>>10694268
More HP, more STR, more etc.

But....Then you started to argue that the Dragon should be weak as he is, and that in reality he is only strong due to Perfect Concentration or whatever.
You made a nonsensical point based around game mechanics, and I'm complaining about those very same mechanics.

.. now what?

>>10694442
>now what?

Now the other guy admits that he is a retard with no valid complaints.

Who am I joking, that'll never happen!

>>10694442
Well its not much of an argument that he was storywise strong as I said above. All he accomplished was taking out canon fodder. Anyone in Wils party could have soloed those guys.

>>10694453
Wil and Leguna was part of the team hunting for him, and they got beat up.

>>10691254
Her teenage voice always makes me think of jailbait.

>>10694463
Wil is a pussy, thats why he has guards. Laguna is a pussy, thats why he has a golum. I dont recall seeing Laguna mentioned in the dragon hunting party either.

>>10694471
You're just making up lame excuses and grasping at straws now.

>>10694484
I didnt notice him but that hardly changes what I said about both of them. If anything this whole conversation just proves that Yuela is an overpowered rape machine capable of raping dragons and death gods and will is a bitch always holding her back.

>>10694493
>will is a bitch
Wil*

Gameplay and story segregation. (fucking tropes)
And I agree that it could be implemented better.

Jap wiki (and now eng wiki too) says that activation chance for Cover I/II/III is 30%/30%/30%. Is this bullshit, or am I missing something?

>>10694493
So. It couldn't possibly be because Eushully implemented the dragon wrongly?

But because Wil and Laguna and the other alchemists in Yuidora are actually incredibly weak?

(Even though my Wil is Actually twice as string as my Yuela..and you're not making any sense, but whatever.)

>>10694493
And that would be both canonicly and game mechanics. But would she be an Overpowered Rape Machine if Wil was not supplying her with armor and weapons? Someone should stick her in her basic clothes and put her default weapon on her and see if she can kill a whole army of trolls solo.

>>10694521
I dont have time to talk about this now. I am going to work. Will be back in 5 or 6 hours. But as i said about Yuela, the dragon would have raped the whole map if she was not there and at no point in the story was she overwhelmed by the dragon other than one comment that she or her group could not avoid the dragons final attack, that would have been taken as she sighing at the party getting hit with it.

Yes, alchemists are weak, thats why they are alchemists, they rely on their inventions to win their fights and Yuela is Wils apparatus to wield his inventions just as Lagunas golum is his. and you will notice that she has been able to take on just about any monster in the game and its usually Wil that stops her and makes her retreat.


So perhaps we should not be arguing if the dragon is overpowered or underpowered but it is both overpowered in the game and story but Yuela is just as powerful as he is. That could be the common flaw in our conversation.

Anyways, ill be back in a few hours.

>>10694543
The dragon should have been able to fuck up Yuela, and according to the story, he was able to. You know, because he's a god damn dragon and she's some random foreigner. He was mechanically underpowered, and that is entirely Eushully's fault.

>>10694543
I think my solution of fixing the dragon to properly represent his strength is much simpler.

Your reasoning involves a boatload of assumptions of Wil/Laguna and all the other alchemists in Yuidora. And it's build on lazy game mechanic implementation, and supports said lazy implementation.

>>10692071
I only used them with Crayl/Crayanne to any good effect. Their combos with flurry III were great around the end of my first run.

What exactly does Marwen's do?

>>10694619
Growth raters.

>>10694599
It's most optimal when two ranged characters both have long ranging combos. And when two melee characters share combo.

Crayanne's range 2 was a little too low for me though. I would have liked hers to be range 3 or range 4.

>Crayanne's combo range:2
>Crayl's combo range:3
Game mechanic implies that Crayl is still the little brother who needs his onee-chan's tanding in front of him to protect him.

Isn't it sad, Crayl? ;_;

Why is it that all the powerful dragon weapons are Earth-aligned, and all the powerful enemies are immune to Earth damage?

>>10694684
Instead of being front&back they can also be side by side.
Then is means Crayl finally caught up with his sis, and with her help, he can reach 3rd range.

>>10694847
So you can value the few wind element weapons more.

>>10694847
Because most "powerful enemies" are the dragons?

>>10694861
Image source?

>>10695201
Nah, there are plenty of non-dragon boss-monsters that are highly resistant or immune to earth. Most are weak against wind, as >>10694865 pointed out, but good luck finding a Wind melee weapon. This pisses me off.

>>10695221
The fact that there's probably only one fairy bead per ng+ run unless you have prior knowledge of this and savescum and you pretty much need it to beat a certain quest because it makes the only wind hammer as far as I know, but you also need it to make one of Serawi's outfits is pretty stupid.

>>10695378
Ful's Mill. USE IT.

>>10695390
My point is that nobody would think to do that because it requires foreknowledge.

>>10695201
A 3DPD.

Sort of befitting a slut such as Hannah.

>>10695221
>good luck finding a Wind melee weapon
I'm okay with Yuela not having access to such a weapon in the first game though.

It makes you value the other companions some more. 3 of them can equip the wind claw.

>>10695431
Go to hell.

Wind melee units:
Ath
Paraskevas
Uya

Ignore them in your first game and you miss out.

>>10695518
or just used ranged

>>10695515
Oh I will.

Hannah is so goddamn sinful, she's probably down there too. I'd go there just to rape her and impregnate her.

>>10695518
Ath: Dies to any magic, thus not viable against almost everything.
Paraskevas: Not a girl => forever watching the garden.
Uya: Kind of meh. I usually dispatch him to gather resources.

The problem here probably isn't the lack of wind melee units, but Yuela being too strong (and not having a wind weapon). If she wasn't that good, other units would look better in comparison.

>>10694553
But in most stories dragons are slain by solo heros. I have yet to see a point in the story where Yuela has been incapable of kicking someones ass. She was holding her own against the reaper. I think you making an assumption that shes not as strong as a dragon.

>>10695518
Dont forget Gandalf. He was a wind melee unit.

>>10695646
And the reaper was actually just her little sister.

>>10695646
From my own experience, I can say that Yuela is extremely good even at level 80 and beyond. Personally, I run her with Prevail III, Evasive III and Undress, which will turn her into a walking machine of destruction at 40% HP and lower. Unfortunately, equipping her like this is a bit of a gamble: If she's hit even once, she'll die, and you're likely fucked if you relied solely on her.

>>10695665
Well if you relied solely on her then you are not to bright considering that you have 20 other party members.

>>10695677
No bully please.

How am I supposed to win the Tournament with Wil and Emelita? Will sucks dicks and dies in 3 hits.

>>10695695
The gauntlet fights? I had no problems with Emilita at ~40 with her Earth robe and Aftershock (the range and damage is huge), just stay clear of enemies. For Wil, I believe you get Flash Step from leveling up his armor. That, and Double Action from the story. (I haven't actually tried with Wil yet, so I'm not too certain what a good tactic for him is)

>>10695712
My characters are in the 30s. I figured it out though. Just let Wil die and have Emelita solo the whole thing. She tanks better than he does.

>>10695401
Most people have the common sense to equip a Ful's or two when facing off against a boss or other unique enemy.

Man, its kinda of irritating that I have characters other than Yuela in my parties the futher this game goes.


Shes a fucking wrecking ball and the rest of my characters feel like bottle corks.

Room full of enemies? Just have her walk in the middle of it and annihilate everything in one round as they attack her.

Takes 5 rounds for the same room if I have 5 characters bumping in to each other as they walk through the door.

i'm almost at the end of the game (about to assasinate the emperer) but i still cant start the quests to turn gapthal and paraskivas into their girl forms

am i missing something? or is this only for new game+

there's also some doors i can't open. plz help

>>10695837
What if Yuela is in your party and the boss suddenly suicides on her blade you wanted Wil to get his first will in the game?

>>10695837
So, do two Ful's Mils stack? Might be a good reason to let Crayl have a shot at those asshole dragons in the future.

>>10695859
>i'm almost at the end of the game (about to assasinate the emperer) but i still cant start the quests to turn gapthal and paraskivas into their girl forms

Wait, what?

>there's also some doors i can't open. plz help
Gold Key requires NG+ and S-ranked Synthesis, from what I gather.

>>10695837
What if Yuela is in your party and the boss suddenly suicides on her blades even though you wanted Wil to get his first kill in the game?

>>10695859
You can't turn them. Sad. ;(
Do you have silver key? Gold key is available in NG+ only.

>>10695887
>So, do two Ful's Mils stack?
You can't equip two Mils, but a Ful's Mill and Ful's Tear stack for 4 drops per kill.

>>10695891
I seriously never used Yuela, but I always see people talking about how she was the best shit ever.

>>10695859
Damn it... now really do want a little girl Paraskevas.

>>10695887
It's impossible to equip two of the same accessory. There's an item called Ful's Tears which acts as a better Ful's Mill and stacks with the latter.

>>10695891
Then have Yuela use Defend, obviously.

>>10695908
What if the boss explodes when he hits her cross arm block?

>>10695903
Cant be helped. I dont rely on her but shes a fucking freak, shes just that good. She gets more damage hitting a target with its strongest elemental resistance than most get hitting it with its weakest.

From a gameplay perspective, it's probably best to start a new game with Yuela's route, since you'll be upgrading her armor and turning her into a nuclear weapon early to help with all other routes...

On the other hand, Elftits is pretty damn sexual and lewd.

>>10695923
Emelita is the choice for Gentlemen. Hers is also the hardest, only true believers will overcome adversity to be with their loli.

Fuck. Wil has to be level 35 to get his next party members. But he still sucks dick. Best weapon in the game for any party member and he hits like a soothing breeze.

>>10695941
you can have him go fishing with a mifu hammer for easy xp

>>10695953
I have no idea what you are talking about.

Who do you think gives the most xp per round in chapter 6? Thinking about just letting a boss hit Wil for an hour until he levels.

>>10695956
Go kill high level fish that are weak to Earth element is what I assume he means.

>>10695982
If you are equal in level to the enemies in the deadbeat dungeon, you are usually sufficiently high to breeze through the regular dungeons for any given chapter.

>>10696021
I wish he was at least that good...

Oh man, fucking elftits, get your shit together. Yuela's first armor is earth, loli gets multi as a second one, and both of them are pretty much set for that first game and I can even start upgrading a bit. And what about you? Fire fucking armor when!? 7th chapter? Yeah, thanks.

I do love how the game gives Wil any stats it fucking pleases, like he has something other than auto attack.

>>10696059
He can throw stones as well!

Wow. A boss that he couldnt kill in 500 turns, Yuela brings to his knees in one turn.

>>10696059
Wil has whopping TWO attacks that use Int: Emi combo, and fox flame from fox banhammer.

God damn it you fucking shit sucking nips.

What do the blue star thingies in my crafting menu mean?

>>10696104
>God damn it you fucking shit sucking RNG.
Fixed.

>>10696108
Think it means that you did not make this item even once yet.

>>10696110
that makes up for 80% of my list. any point in making them aside from clearing up the mess.

>>10696109
No, they made the point pool, they are to blame, 2 nukes were not enough.

>>10696116
Improves your rating with the alchemists guild. More shit to sell.

>>10696116
Nah, unless you really really need to bump up your synth lvl I suppose.

>>10696128
That to. You get a bonus for the first time you synth something. Syth level effects what recipes you have.

I just found a bracelet for Crayenne giving her Double Action in the Elf Forest (Chapter 9). Wow, just wow. Anything similar for Crayl, maybe?

>>10696137
That's why Crayenne is great on first playthrough. Every character can get Double Action or a superior ability that includes it, but they're generally only in New Game + from level 90+ enemies.

>>10696137
Every character has a "ultimate" accessory item giving them neat skills like this. Good luck hunting them all though.
Google the list if you want, should be easy to find.

>>10696137
Crayl's accessory gives +15 Evd, and that's it. Not much use.

>>10696163
I see. Do they drop randomly, or on specific maps? I found four of them on the last map, but others, such as Ath's pure anklet or Sharty's lucky bracelet dropped a lot earlier.

>>10696173
They drop from specific monsters.

Wait a min, make sure you aren't confusing unique accessories (found mid game, range from useless like Suina's to OP like Crayon's, only non-NG+ non-main characters have them) and character artifacts (found in EX-dungeons, mostly awesomely cool, 30 accessories).

>>10696173
Copypasta from Seiha, with my notes:

Python Bracelet (Suina) - Iron Worm [+2 Earth, -2 Ice - useless as fuck]
Pure Anklet (Aht) - Tainted Earthman [+1 Mov, cool]
Secret Bracelet (Crayl) - Wraith [+15 Evd, meh]
Lucky Bracelet (Sharty) - Bekorito [+10 Hit, +5 Luk, okay]
Enduring Collar (Uya) - Segpent [+10 FS, Counter I, so-so]
Revival Bracelet (Melodiana) - Deadwolf [Resurrect II, meh]
Refilling Bracelet (Kohakuren) - Berserk Naiad (Non Yuela Route only) [SP regen I, useless]
Mirror Bracelet (Elizasleyn) - Felura, Deva (Serawi route only (4x Felura in Dirwong Forest, no respawn) or NG+) [+10 HP, Reflect I, so-so]
Time Bracelet (Crayanne) - Treant (Non Emelita route only or NG+) [Double action, +5 Int, +10 Hit, fuckawesome]
Charisma Bracelet (Paraskervas) - Alkeni [+5 Res, Pierce I, okay]
Desperate Bracelet (Gaptahl) - Takush (Spawns in Rogue's Den in Limestone Caverns after first visit) [+5 Con, Prevail I, cool]
Deathless Bracelet (Ragsmuena) - Zombie Goble [+20 SP, Resurrect II, so-so]

>>10696173
Most are random, many characters have several accessories such as the ones you mentioned, though those aren't their ultimate accessories, which have very powerful, non-minor bonuses, including giving double action to anyone who doesn't have it. The names will be different though so do go actually read what a skill does.

For example, I remember someone complaining about Leguna's ultimate accessory's ability being "Barrier II", not realizing that it is actually equivalent to Double Action+Ethereal, not just some simple magic barrier.

Who were your best characters in NG+ runs? I remember relying so much on this feisty harlequin.

>>10696223
Too bad this is everyone's best NG+ character.

>>10696187
Thank you. May I ask, where exactly did you find that? On the wiki?

How the fuck do I get through Misanshen. those fucking angels are wearing me out, I've lost 4 times already and had to start from the beginning.

>>10696250
I'm not >>10696187, but:
Jap wiki: http://www44.atwiki.jp/kamidori
Eng wiki: http://kamidori.seiha.org/index.php?title=Main_Page

Anyone knows the requirements for unlocking the Harmonic Tunic. I just realized that this is the only robe I don't have yet... is it somehow tied to the dragon or that sea monster thing? I never level them...

>>10696260
I checked these places.

>>10696251
Equip your own angel with dark partisan and send her ahead (through the seals up) to rape their shit. The rest can just ball up and move in the standard Yuela-solo formation. Maybe you're a bit underleveled or something?

>>10696264
There's also http://games.seiha.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=102

>>10696233
Doesn't Asmodeus give her a run for her money?

>>10696278
Yeah, I also knew about that, but I didn't check thoroughly. That cleared up the confusion around the harmonic robe. Thanks.

>>10696274
my characters are all 22-25.
Most equipped with shadow magic. but the fucking crits man, I somehow constantly getting critically hit on one of the vital characters and it just goes to shit.

Is it a good idea to reset levels but inherit equipment in NG+?

>>10696351
It would be if stat caps were gone in NG+. But they are not, so it's not a good idea. You need high lvls anyway for later dungeons.

>>10696351
No point. If you're looking for challenge then just turn off level caps and go on hard mode.

Bonus dungeons start at level 50 and go to 90 anyways. And if you were thinking of that due to desire for higher stat growths with the special items equipped because you want to max everyone's stats, there is still no point as eventually you will be able to farm (literally, as in grow them in your backyard) permanent stat-raising items, as well as reincarnate characters back to level 1 without stat decreases (though it will require their artifact)

>>10696361
>>10696377
No, I mean, would it make main (non-NG+) gameplay less boring than if you just inherit everything?

>>10696411
You lost me. What exactly are you trying to pull off?

>>10696430
I complete my first playthrough. Then start the second one, but without character levels (and probably removing most equipment with SpoilerAL). This way I can play "main" content properly, instead of breezing through it like I would if I inherited everything.
I don't want to restart completely from scratch because then I would lose some items that I'd rather hold onto.

>>10696430
Although now I think that if I want to do that, a better alternative would be using SpoilerAL to "revert" characters to initial level/stats.

>>10696411
>>10696467
There is an option to unlock enemy levels at game start. This essentially removes the restriction that enemies cannot advance more than ~10 levels from their original level.

Besides, there is enough to do in NG+ that you really do not have to worry about the main story that much.

Why does Sharty suck so much? This question is mainly directed at her weapons. They all suck so fucking hard.

Another question: Why is Sharty's gauntlet run in the arena so freaking difficult? Every other generic character has a fuckton of easy enemies, but not Sharty, oh no. Her final enemy is some sort of holy/lightning construct that has 150HP, resists mostly all types of damage and kills her in one round. FUCK.

>>10696483
This. Since there are 3 routes, quite a bit on NG+ content and even NG++ characters, I don't see the point of trying to play the commong route maps for the "challenge" again. 50+ dungeons pretty much require you to keep your lvls anyway.

>>10696491
My Sharty punched out devilfishes.
AFAIR, she stopped sucking at around lvl 70.

>>10696491
Funny, the only way to stop sucking is to suck more.

>>10696491
For the gauntlet: if l-volt's holy spell outranges its ranged attack (i don't remember), use anti-holy necklaces and stand far enough to force it to waste mana on its spell. Then charge in and pray.

>>10696504
>>10696511
That's funny, but she is level 40... I just cannot finish that arena map with her. All other characters had no problems. Maybe there is a trick to it? Or maybe the developers just hated Sharty?

>>10696042
Water armor has her range 5 skill. Your own fault if you skip it.

>>10696162
>>10696137
That's why I always recommend Elftit route first.

Serawi route gives easy double action for Crayanne,

>>10696519
The devs were lazy when they designed the gauntlets. Figures from how there are 2 sets of monsters at all, for 14 characters.

>>10696519
>>10696580
Alright, I leveled her up to 45 in the Deadbeat dungeon and equipped her with Special Gloves (had to farm those damn Snake Claws first). This gives her a decent base strength. Equipped a Reflector for good measure and went with Succubus Kiss (omni attack) for at least some damage. Probably more luck than a good tactic, though.

>>10696579
Well, maybe. Considering how all your harem companions get a free skill-up in chapter 9, plus the aforementioned accessories, that might actually be a good idea. I finally upgraded the fire armor all the way, equipped Herse Parfaite (from the Gauntlet) and Ferocity III, Enhanced Battery and Focus, and Elftits actually manages to catch up with Emilita and Yuela. At least for the time being.

To be fair, I didn't upgrade anyone else's armor, so she would probably still suck in comparison.

>>10696594
>actually manages to catch
Pfft.. Elftit is so far ahead of Emelita in the first playthough it's not even funny.

It's your own fault you didn't gave her the Fire armor upgrades and water armor upgrades.

>>10696599
Nah, Emilita is fine as long as you learn at least one decent skill. I went for Aftershock and Soul Shield, since they both come from the same armor. She might not have 9 attack range, but to compensate, her attack packs a lot more punch.

I do admit though that I ignored Elftits for the longest time, so I probably never realized her potential.

>>10696617
>She might not have 9 attack range
Nevermind the 9 range. She doesn't even have 5 range which is Serawi's bread and butter for most part of the game if you hadn't gimped her.

Aftershock isn't is earth element and not that useful. Emelita is only effective in range 2-3 in the first game.

>>10695908
>Then have Yuela use Defend, obviously.
You've obviously never fought the fairy I was talking about, so don't go talking about common sense.

Oh for fuck, why are those fags so strong...

I've reinstalled this after a year and started a NG+ with no level cap and hard mode.
Problem is that I have no idea how to to level that lily girl I get at the start. She's level 1 when everyone else is around 40 and she gets destroyed by anything.
How do I level her? Is she even worth the trouble?

>>10696632
Let her have the finishing move.

>>10696627
Yeah, this is the map I had the most trouble with all the way to NG+. Fuck Prevail. Fuck it.

>>10696632
From what I hear, she turns into God mode once leveled enough. That'd be difficult without level cap though, as you'd have to babysit her through possibly 45+ levels. You should have a training bracelet which prevents enemies from being killed by the character that equips it, so that might help a bit (give it Yuela and go to one of the early 50+ mine levels for maximum effect).

>>10696627
>Suzaku Sword

What is Ifrit Necklace?

>>10696659
Yeah, kinda saw this just after I took that screen. Suddenly not so hard. Kohakuren is currently having a friendly one-way chat with them.

>>10696632
You could always go to the deadbeat dungeon. She's basically NG+ Sharty.

>>10696670
You can see when their Attack number having a color. If it's red, then they have Fire element and you can adjust accessory to nullify completely.

>>10696680
Nah, red means you will do reduced damage (due to resists).

>>10696695
The element of the attack is denoted by the icon next to its name.

>>10696700
Right, right. That's the one.

I heard some rumors about Himegari being translated. But maybe that was just wishful thinking ;_;

God damn the ending to Emilitias route pisses me off. He declares war, causes hundreds, maybe thousands of deaths and they just forgive him like it was nothing.

>>10697111
I thought he was thrown into the dungeon to never see the light of day again?

Enjoy prison rape

>>10697111
Just pretend the route doesn't exist.

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