/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Why can't I naturally get rendaku down? Learning those on-readings from KD were nice but since those mnemonics stayed with me so strongly any words that have rendaku I keep getting wrong.

Frustrating.

Yes maam, this deck is cleeeeeean

>>10640258
You get to a point with enough grinding in where rendaku is easily detectable. You'll know what sounds right and what sounds wrong.

I just got this message "Congratulations! You have finished this deck for now." which is fine. But how can I keep reviewing the Kanji I just studied without adding new cards? I just want to keep looking at them without waiting for tomorrow even though according to Anki I memorized them already (which I did, but I want to look at them again).

>>10642143
Click on Custom Study when you're on that screen. Don't forget to unselect the "reschedule cards based on my answers" from the options if you want to keep your normal schedule

I don't even bother with whatever studying algorithms that Anki works off of. I just choose all the cards in a random order and go through them until I've got it memorized. Then again, I also make my own decks, so whatever works

>>10642156
Custom study doesn't really give me an option to restudy what I just studied. Increasing today's review limit doesn't do anything either.

I also don't see that option you mentioned anywhere, neither on preferences nor deck options.

http://lapapps.net/
What values am I supposed to put in for Itahov Monogatari?I can't seem to make the kanji show up.
I wish there were an Anki deck for these.

I dropped my core deck because it kept giving me words I really don't think I have any use for. I'm gonna read some eroge and just start making my own deck with common words I see, because I can't seem to find a decent vocab deck.

>>10642168
There is an option for "review forgotten cards" I thought that worked like that, but I guess not

Also, the rescheduling option is in the Options on the temporary deck you create after you select something in Custom Study

>>10642177
That's a good idea, also because you'll study stuff that you personally need (suited to what you read).

>>10642185
Looks like that is working, thank you for your time and sorry about me being a baka.

Pretty much.

Does anyone know of any advanced decks that could help me feel more like a smartass? Been having fun with the 3300四字熟語 deck.

I made the mathematics terminology deck in my picture. It's a shared deck on AnkiWeb if anyone wants it (might have a couple of errors).

>>10642218
Read random scientific wiki articles? Chemistry textbooks in Japanese?

You're obviously very experienced so I'm not sure any deck is appropriate for you.

>>10642236
More interested in high level general use vocabulary.. there's (tens of?) thousands of obscure words for 漢検順１級/１級 with arcane kanji so I've been thinking if it'd be cool if there were a deck for those.

>>10642143
What I do is to write each new word on paper.

here's my stats on slime forest.

fucking cropping in gimp is a pain

Is there a very very complete book of grammar? The dictionaries aren't enough and I keep running into stuff I don't know.

Guys, I set the maximum review delay or whatever it was to 1 day, so that I review all the older kanji every fucking day, is that how it's supposed to be done? Or will that make me want to kill myself later on? The deck has like 2k kanji in it.

>>10649689
Did you try Tae Kim's guide and Genki 1 and 2?

>>10650220
Oh god, what. That is definitely not what you are supposed to do.

I took a 3 week break and have been doing the same set for the last 4 days now.

I fucking hate Anki.

>>10650276
Got any advices man? Thank you.

>>10650292
Can't tell if you're kidding or not, but I'll bite. The whole point with having an algorithm schedule your cards like Anki does is to not have to review cards you know well all the time. I honestly don't think you should have that setting at anything less than at least 3 months, and even that might end up biting you in the ass within a year. Working with a maximum interval of well over a year is common practice. Add another step or two to new cards if you feel new cards don't stick well enough or something, but holy fuck, please don't mess around with the settings like that.

Isn't the default maximum interval on Anki 36,500 days? Just how long does the Anki developer expect me to live?

How do you set what number space is set to in Anki 2?

I know it's automatically set to 1 for Hard but I want to change it to 2.

>>10650320
I am not kidding, I am actually that dense, so thank you for replying. I'll just put that shit back to default.

>>10650353
100 years apparently.

>>10650399
The default is what this Anon is talking about, right?>>10650353

Maximum Interval, under the reviews tab is supposed to be 36,500 days, correct?

>>10650411
Yes.

>>10650222
I did taekim, it's not in there. Like I said it's not in the three dictionaries of japanese grammar (basic, intermediate, advanced) which is why I asked for a very, very complete grammar book. I highly doubt genki is going to have it if the three dictionaries don't have it. I ended up googling the grammar point and I only have a gist of what it does.

>>10651475
Try posting the grammar point here and someone might help you.

>>10651475
Are you sure it's actual grammar rule and not just some niche slang expression that just makes no sense in the bigger picture? You know, just like /jp/ loves their "which 2hu fug, you're 2hu a shit" routine.

what the fuck

anki keeps closing because it thinks it knows the time better than i do. tried disabling automatic synchronization in date and time properties.

how do i stop anki from being retarded

hey maybe this is the wrong place to ask this, but jp you are my only hope now.
how would one construct the sentence 『when the train arrived, I got off and waited at the station.』in informal japanese? thank you in advance for anyone who helps me

I have a question (using romaji because no jp ime where I am right now). Why is "Sumisusan wa benkyou shite imasu" translated as "Mr. Smith is married" and not as "Mr Smith is getting married (marrying)"? Thank you /jp/.

>>10652674
Because whatever translator you're using is as helpful regarding japanese as a dog.

>>10652674
>benkyou
I assume you mean 結婚 (けっこん) if you're talking about marriage. You say "marrying", so I guess you have a decent idea of how -te + iru works, but instead of thinking about it English and adding "-ing" or something, think of it as making the verb a continuous or habitual action. So once Smith marries, he's continuously married (until she fucks him over), -te + iru would be used. In other words, he is married.

If you wanted to say that he's going to get married, you'd use 結婚 + する / します.

>>10652782
/jp/ knows its shit

>>10652739
It's a book, japanese for busy people. The literal translation of that phrase is: "Mr. Smith, having got married is married" but I always knew that verb+te form and iru(imasu) was present tense. I also meant kekkon, not benkyou, sorry.

>>10652782
>>10652792
Thanks a lot man. Seriously. It's all about context, right?

If I read anymore I'm going to end up adding more than 100 words today. So much time left in the day too. Sometimes a chapter is easy reading and barely anything to add then the next chapter I'm adding so much.

At least yomichan makes this so much easier.

>>10652788
well it is elementary grammar. that concept takes a -little- more effort but its not particularly difficult.

JLPT3 vocab list finished. Half of JLPT2 left.

>>10652894
Just think if you added 100 words a day for a year you'd have a vocabulary better than a native.

>>10653204
That's barely manageable unless you're NEET or has the ability to never procrastinate a minute or more during your reviews.

I don't get why people always bitch about kanji (not /jp/, just people in general all over the net). They are one of the easiest things to learn by themselves if you take the time.

Hey /jp/ since I am leaving home for a week or so, I'd like to be able to "freeze" my Anki deck so that it doesn't add 20 new cards every day while I am gone, is there a way to do that?

Also, is it possible to just copy and paste my whole folder into an external HD, bring it with me and keep studying where I am going, and go back home after and "update" my computer's Anki by pasting the one I have on my external HD? Thanks.

>>10654662
It also makes reading way easier and faster, sometimes my eyes hurt while reading full kana sentences.

>>10654835
I'm pretty sure the answers are "it does that by default" and "yes".

>>10655030
Best answer I could get, thanks.

I keep seeing people that have to study like 100 new things in their decks, so I thought that Anki punished procrastination by adding more and more shit to study every day piling it up.

>>10655064
Reviews pile up, but it won't add new cards by itself unless you're given a new card and you answer it at least once, which will flag it as "learning" rather than just "new". Anyway, if you're expecting that you won't be able to do your reps daily over there, but occasionally get the time, you might be better off turning off new cards completely and just keep up with reviews as best as you can until you get back.

As for bringing Anki with you, on Windows it'll store the database and the program itself separately by default, so copy-pasting might not go smoothly, as it might store the database path in the registry and whatnot. You might want to test if it works first if you do it, at least. Syncing is by far the best option, though. If you don't have internet, you should probably use its export function and put the exported database on your external HD and import it on whatever computer you'll be using while you're gone. Then, before you leave, just export the updated one and import it when you get back.

>>10655140
Or I could just get the deck there and just custom study it to add all the cards I have studied at home already, so that I can keep reviewing those. If the Anki deck doesn't keep piling shit up I'll be fine I guess.

I haven't done my reps in over a month.

It's over.

- 10k words
- still have to add words by the truck load when reading stuff
- its not even hard, real deal, reading material

when will the suffering end?

>>10655403
I don't get people that do this. How are you not able to see the consequences of just letting it go?

If it's because school's holding you down it's understandable, but if it's because of laziness I just don't get it. Why waste your time attempting it if you're not going to pull through?

>>10655447
What deck? If you're at 10000 words I'll assume that you're at JLPT1 level for vocab.

Is it kunyomi compounds or nouns that you have problems with? Because after going through something like 10000 words I think you should be able to see similiarities in compounds and from that automatically being able to discern what it means.

I swear I'm going to get hemorrhoids thanks to AnkiDroid.

>>10655460
I had stopped doing my reps for half a year. Then I came back to them and I either remembered everything or needed just one review to make it all fall back into place. I feel the break actually helped me in the long run, even though I probably should have used it to do something else Japanese-related instead.

>>10655602
How were you able to deal with all the cards waiting for you? I wish Anki had like a parking mode or something.

>>10655611
>Anki had like a parking mode or something

This. I should be writing my essay by now, but instead I'm doing my reps because I don't want to get fucked over tomorrow. I think I'll skip new cards today and just do cards that are due.

>>10655611
You know, when you have a break that long, you simply give up trying to maintain any continuity. So I just took it easy, decided to not strain myself trying to remember everything, and just skimmed through all my cards for a few day, half an hour at a time, taking no more than a second or two to decide whether I remember it or not. A soft restart of a kind.

Then there was the matter of relearning, but it turned out to be really easy. I already knew most of it, and I already gave up on all expectations, so I never hesitated to fail cards immediately, and reps started being fun again. I guess the problem I used to have before was clinging to the things I've "learned", stressing myself too much over forgetting things, and getting lost in the routine instead of trying to look at the bigger picture.

>>10655489
coreplus. yes i've done jlpt1/2.

i only use coreplus now to unsuspend words i haven't seen before from what i'm reading like 装甲. no more random stuff.
i use another deck to add words i haven't seen before and isn't listed in coreplus like 鬱蒼 or 薬莢.

kunyomi word combinations aren't too hard and i'll just add it if it is.
are you speaking from experience? how long have studied for now?

>>10656130

kanjidamage

What do you guys think it's better for a complete beginner with Kanji? Heisig or Core?

>>10656136
I find Kanjidamage to be kind of confusing to be honest.

>>10656130
When you say Core, are you talking about the vocab decks, or are there kanji decks as well? If it's the vocab decks you're talking about, I recommend you do both at the same time. Some people skip studying individual kanji, but you'll need vocab either way.

>>10656298
It's mixed
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/4271439873

I started this some days ago:
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/3397828991

I don't know if I should go on with Lazy though.

>>10656310
Yeah, I consider that Core2k deck a vocab deck more than anything else. Keep doing those ones for sure.

As for kanji, the idea behind that lazy thing there doesn't seem to bad, but honestly I don't feel like learning a reading or two along with each kanji card is too much trouble. This is more of an issue you have to find what you prefer yourself, though. Some like RTK, some like KD, some completely skip individual kanji, and so on.

Personally, I just went with the order kids learn it over there and focused on learning the most common readings, without mnemonics or anything. Works for me, at least.

What is the best vocab deck for an absolute beginner.

>>10658947
JLPT N5

>>10656130
Go with Heisig and flip the cards so kanji is on front, meaning is on back.

What is your biggest mistake you made while learning Japanese? Mine was doing Heisig, good thing I dropped it after about 800. Second would probably be underestimating my memory and adding things very slowly when I first started.

does anyone have tips to improve retention?

i've been flicking through the 501 verbs and it's not sticking as well as i'd like.

i'm only using show card though, maybe I could put an input in or something.

Why would input matter? You have to remember it to input it. Can you upload your graph for the deck?

>>10659580
I've been having trouble with vocabulary myself. Kanji is kind of simple after a while, but there really isn't a good way to remember pronunciation.

>>10659652
I don't get the difference. Why can you remember one thing and not the other?

>>10659672
You tell me. I have no idea.

>>10659683
How would I know?

>>10659580
You should try to retain mainly what you're already encountering or planning to encounter in the near future.

If you're not already immersing yourself in the language, start.

>>10659672
``Autism spectrum disorders, including Asperger syndrome, have generally been associated with uneven intellectual profiles and impairment''

I'm sorry if this is just too off-topic, but how did your parents react when you told them you know how to read Japanese and you learned it all through the internet?

>>10659720
Why would I tell my parents?

>>10659720
They were shocked and proud that I was able to do such a thing and constantly ask me questions about it, in their head you can't learn anything without school. They are both tenured professors at the state university, father is in education and mother is in english. Imagine people who spent their entire life in higher ed go out to $30+ a plate restaurants every other night with a $100 bottle of wine talking about how evil rich people are, how communism hasn't really been tried, how capitalism is inherently bad, and how everyone is keeping to poor minorities down. They tolerate me so I like them.

>>10659720
No one knows.

>>10659720
They are oblivious to it and it should stay that way. If they found out it would just get in the way. "Anon if only you were as good in ... as you are in your runes", "Why did you waste so much time and effort to learn a language for your girl cartoons if you could use that time to get a job?".

I can't be bothered figuring out how to use anki

At least I have Pimsleur

>>10659753
They sound like terrible people. I hate white people.

>>10659782
watch tutorial vids on youtube

>>10659786
I like them. They think they are working class too.

Thanks to them I am probably the king of first world problems.

>>10659573
>biggest mistake you made while learning Japanese?
having a example sentence on the front side of my vocab cards. i had to relearn most of my cards since i ended up memorizing the sentence or just the shape of the sentence. this was at 6000 words.

also, not trying to read at 2000 words every day. i spent way to much time in anki i don't think i started reading anything until 9000 words. really stupid. oh well i know better now.

>>10659992
What is your current progress?

>>10660062
~11000 words.

>>10659992
What would you start reading at 2k words?

I'm like a hundred words away from that mark and reading anything feels extremely slow.
I'm forced to look up 80% of the words I encounter. That is way too much information for me to remember so none of it stays put, especially since compounds tend to be just like asians - arr sound same.
It's also very stressful and kills my motivation whenever I attempt it, so I'm putting off reading till I get to 6k words. Or 4 at least. Is this a mistake?

>>10652559
Someone else had this problem in Windows 8 a while back. All he did was re-sync his time settings and that fixed it, even though apparently his time and date were already correct. Try doing that.

And be more proactive in your grammar, Anon. Please? You sound more retarded than the program you're trying to fix.

>>10659573
Learning stroke order and not something useful like kun-yomi and on-yomi. I already knew the meaning of 2100~ kanji but only the kun-yomi and on-yomi for about 500 of them.
I didn't bother to learn any grammar (beyond shit like 「じゃない」and 「なかった」and simple particles) until my vocab was at 4000 words.

I learned the error of my ways.

>>10659573
Trying to do kanji with onyomi, kunyomi and meaning without using Anki for the first 500 characters and instead using the KD page. Took like 7 months away from me when I could do it in like 2 or 3.

>>10660436
1000 characters*

>>10660417
You find kunyomi and onymoi that important? Someone here said that learning them was pointless so I started skipping them on KD.

>>10660442


Learning all of them is pointless
learning none of them is pantsu on head retarded

>>10660442
They make learning vocabulary much easier and you remember shit better is you think of 「人」as 「ジン」,「ひと」, or「ニン」rather than person or human, if that makes sense.

>>10660442
Kunyomi can be learned through vocab and the same goes for onyomi. Onyomi is kind of an optional thing though because it makes memorizing readings easier at the start.

>>10660470
jukugo*

>>10660470
>Kunyomi can be learned through vocab and the same goes for onyomi.
What he said. Readings come with vocabulary, with the added bonus that you will actually know a real word now instead of a single kanji with an abstract meaning. I find that this approach uses learning time somewhat more effectively.

Is the japanese onomatopoeia deck in anki any good? I am sick of knowing tons of vocab but never any of that shit.

>>10660470
But if you already know the kunyomi and onyomi vocab is much easier and will be easier to memorize.

>>10660512
In theory, maybe, but since hundreds of kanji share the same reading, this advantage probably only applies to a selected few words.

>>10660515
When you see a new word you will know how it is read the vast majority of the time and all you will need to do is attach a meaning to learn it.

>>10660170
read what? anything you want i'm assuming your grammar is good.
but, really, read now.

this is coming from someone that dicked around in anki for a long, long time instead of reading.

I still have to look up a lot of words. it is unavoidable. yesterday i added 47 words from a short chapter in a LN, 11 pages. kino vol.2 ch. 6 if you're curious.

How do you guys deal with real life putting your studies on hold? I can't add new cards this week due to uni and it is bothering how much progress I will lose.

>>10660779
I put real life on hold instead.

>>10660779
I usually have time for it because of public transport 2 hours a day which always gets my reps done in time.

I've missed 2 days of new cards now because of an essay taking up a lot of time.

>>10660779
Real life? Go back to the /a/ thread please.

when using the RTK deck, should i have the kanji on back and meaning on front or vise versa?

>core 2k/6k optimized vocab deck; 50 a day
>remember the kanji; 50 a day
>listening to podcasts
>reading yotsuba

what else can i add?

>>10660835
RTK is supposed to be a shortcut, so you won't encounter new Kanji while learning vocab. Doing both at the same time doesn't really help you.
Oh and, whqt.

>>10660823
Vice versa

>>10660808
>implying /a/ has normalfags

Do you guys know of any paper templates so I can practice writing those moon runes?

>>10660896
I'm a NEET on Saturdays :DDD

>>10660835
how many reps a day does 50 new a day amount to ?

>>10660881
Both are vaild ways, I prefer kanji on the front because on top of learning the kanji's meanings you get used to distinguishing them. It also lets you get rid of some heisig's less accurate key words that you're forced to use if two kanjii have the same meaning

>>10660779
Stop making excuses. University does not take up every single hour of one's waking hours. Maybe half at most.

People do in fact have extra-curricular activities.

I gave up on Heisig after 140 kanji.
I think the better way is to get a Anki kanjidamage deck with kanji on front and meaning+onyomi on back and nothing more. Do the reps with Anki and after that just read rest of the stuff on the website for all the kanji you've studied.

>>10661601

Homework takes up time.

Don't count on kanjidamage. Incorrect stroke order will make you look like an idiot.

>>10661617

>stroke order

>>10658983
What, why? I thought to really remember the Kanji you had to have the meaning on the front?

>>10661617
For all these times you're going to not only write kanji but write it in front of someone else.

>>10661861
Except people can discern stroke order from the way a character is written.
Just learn the order, seriously. After a couple you will already know the logic anyway, as long as you learn those early characters properly.

426 cards today, mature retention is at 98%, life is good

>>10661929
Wowzers you have 98% retention on the 30 mature cards that trickled down through your pathetic 426 cards total?

>>10663346
11/10
most subtle trolling I've seen in all my years on this site

>>10663370
Don't get angry because you are bragging about your statistics after only doing it for a few weeks. In fact the fact that you have mature cards already after only 426 means you are adding them pathetically slow. I didn't see my first one until around 1500 cards.

>>10663385
Nigga, I think you need to pay more attention when reading. He said "today", not "total".

>>10649008

No it isn't, you select a region, go under image and hit "Crop to Selection" or some shit like that.

Get it together, man.

Is that game any good for learning Japanese?

why did they make it harder to download decks in the new version of Anki? You used to be able to browse and download decks directly within the program. Now you have to browse them via web browser and install them manually. It really feels like a step backwards.

>>10663430
It's great if you're a complete beginner. Too limited and ends too fast to be of any real use, though.

>>10663385
>>10663346
No, that was my daily total, I have about 4000 cards total.

>>10663674
I tried playing the trial when I heard about it some days back in another thread. It conveys things to you terribly, and there's no sense of accomplishment or progress (yes, I'm well aware that your progress through a language should be the one giving you a sense of accomplishment, but I'm playing a videogame as well, and I'd like something more rewarding than soundless fights with generic slimes that all look and can be beaten the same).

I eventually came to a cave past the forest and even with the medallion that the old man gives you to protect you from slime magic, I still was unable to damage them and they mercilessly kicked my ass. Maybe I'm playing it wrong, but I didn't enjoy it.

>>10664003
Yeah, the game is poorly made and the learning material it contains is awful, but the idea of turning runes into game commands you need to execute to win is solid. It's the poorly conceived and limited goals and no sense of progress that are dragging it down, but I think at least people who don't even know kana yet should benefit from playing it.

And I had no problem reaching the end of the cave, so you might have indeed been doing something wrong there.

Does anyone have a copy of the core 2k/6k deck for anki 1 they could upload for me? The ones on ankiweb doesn't work with anki 1 and I don't want to upgrade to anki 2.

Who has the biggest deck?

Anki's been around for about 7 years now. If you learnt 50 words a day since then you'd know about 130,000 by now (should be more than enough to pass 漢検一級）.

Has anyone tried a text called Nakama by Hatasa et al? There is pdf version online which is typeset and not scanned. It seems very comparable to genki or youkosou.

>>10666578
>and I don't want to upgrade to anki 2.

>>10666643
My deck is only 4800 cards (unlocked at least).

>>10666578
"No reason to panic download" they said.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/t6kg0g

I wanted to upload to mf but apparently registration is mandatory now.
Google nukemarine's guide to find the images/sound files for it.

How come sendspace links are filtered when /rs/ parses them fine?

>>10668719
Thanks, love you anon.

Doing em.

http://www.youtube.com/user/yesjapan

This guy seems helpful.

>>10660945
http://www.japanese-lesson.com/characters/hiragana/hiragana_writing.html

Found this in case anybody is wondering.

J-just at least 650 more days to go to see them all.

>>10677163
If you doubled the amount per day you could do it in less then a year.

>>10677163
Guess they aren't kidding when they say it takes years to reach fluency. Kind of wish I started learning this in adolescents. It probably would've been easier.

>>10677163
4 months.

>>10677163
4 months.

I am doing one of the core decks and the is shit in there that I never fucking see in reading. You see shit like 「憂鬱」 all the time but I have never fucking seen 「工場」in my life. I still gotta learn but I wish the was a more eroge friendly reading deck other than ones I make myself.

>>10677163
How many do you learn per day?

>>10678397
coreplus has 工場 very early on (like within 300 words). 憂鬱 is a pretty useful word, especially in eroge.

>>10678488
I already know 憂鬱 thanks to only learning what I saw in games, I am just complaining that I have to learn 工場 now that I started a real vocab deck that I didn't personally make. I didn't phrase my post well.

>>10678410
Based on what he said, ``650 more days'' I'm going to assume ~30/day. Which makes sense if someone responded with saying something like doubling it (going to ~60/day) you can finish that amount in less than a year.

I've heard that there are some alterations to the Core 2K/6K deck that are basically necessary. I don't feel overly confident editing Anki decks so a slightly detailed explanation of recommended changes would be highly appreciated.

>>10679365
Card layout is pretty much the only thing.

>>10679383
What about the card layout?

>>10659573
How is Heisig a mistake?

>>10679463
He was probably just extremely lazy and didn't bother to do the visualization steps. At least when you're starting off it's crazy important and a lot of people ignore it.

>>10679711
I did not stop doing it because I was failing, I stopped doing it because it was a waste of time. I'm sure once you guys move on to vocab you will realize how pointless it was. Keep telling yourself it's a good idea. I already invested this much time I can't quit now. Only 1 more month then I can finally begin to actually learn Japanese for real.

>>10680584
>actually learn Japanese for real.
the HELL were you doing all this time?

>>10679711
I didn't even use the mnemonics with Heisig. I easily worked through it just using brute force visual memory. Dunno why other people struggle so much.

>>10680584
"Once I moved to vocab", I had that awesome feeling of everything suddenly falling into place.

>>10668311
Not that guy, but I remember how hard it was for me to set up a proper scheduling in Anki 1. From what I've read about 2, the author fucked up even more in it, so I'm sure as hell not switching any time soon.

>>10681923
k have fun dude

>>10681923
Describe you issue with the scheduling Anki uses. I think the second one got only better in this regard (though I do believe he fucked up some usability aspects) and my deck is over 10k cards now.

>>10682379
The issue is author's retarded conviction that people should only do reps once per day:

>Reviews are only scheduled on a per-day basis now. If you wish to divide a day’s cards into multiple sessions, you can either use the timeboxing feature or simply do a certain number of cards and stop until later.

Or in general, that people should have no control over his beautiful and pure SRS algorithm. I'm not trusting him one bit, simple as that. My current installation works well for me now, so I'm just not going to bother with any new release, especially one that's made from scratch.

>>10682574
You can change all the variables of the algorithm though so I don't know what you're talking about.

>>10685036
Why are people happy with statistics like that? I've never dropped below 90% since I started, and I have almost 5000 cards and hit good for most of my cards.

>>10642143
i dont think this question was properly answered yet, but deal with it and then next time set your new card limit higher so that you dont feel the need to review the same cards more than necessary.

or you could just apply your knowledge and read yotsuba or something

How do I change the order of cards in my Anki deck?
I want to create a word deck and then manually sort the words by Heisig's kanji order.

>>10687491
those stats are 313 reviews, 215 learning cards and 0 relearns

This in only possible if he never hit again for any card he was reviewing and only used again for 20% of the new cards, i.e. either he isn't honest, or he's learning stuff that's way below his level

>>10680584
Maybe you are just stupid. Learning kanji is very important to actually read Japanese. I don't know what you mean by actually learning Japanese, but that will have to include kanji.

>>10687738
Nevermind, I've got an idea. I'll do that in Notepad or Excel and then just import it.

>>10687739
>only used again for 20% of the new cards

This is the reason. I never use Again or Easy for Young+Learning cards. Only Good and Hard.

And I am being honest. I don't know how you guys rank your cards, but I rank them on whether I have a hunch of what it can be then it's "Hard". And if I know them I just use "Good". Nothing more to it and it works fine.

>>10687822
>Only Good and Hard.
>And I am being honest.
Have fun using a dictionary for the rest of your life.

>>10687770
Maybe you shouldn't try to add your opinion on learning japanese until you've actually learned it decently well.

>>10687947
And that's why I'm already reading eroge without much effort. Sure, believe what you want.

>>10687987
>I'm already reading eroge without much effort.
Are you adding words you come across that aren't in coreplus from the stuff you're reading? Is the coreplus the only deck you have?

>>10688038
Got two VN/LN decks with around 500 words in each.

I read a lot though, and have finished 4 volumes of Kino no Tabi. Also soon done with the VN Phenomeno.

Doing sentence analysis on the side too for grammar practice.

>>10688051
Why not put the two VN decks and two LN decks together?

What deck are you using for sentence analysis? I have to look up the dictionary once in a while when I come across something not covered in taekim grammar guide.

I finished reading vol.2 of kino and I added probably ~1000 words and I'm not sure how many words I rescheduled. So I'm curious what grammar sentence deck you're using because I probably need more grammar practice or something. How long did it take you to read all four volumes?

What is this? I can't for the life of me figure it out?

>>10688128

it's ra

>>10688128
り

>>10688139

Don't listen to this guy.

>>10688137

Why is it missing the first stroke?

>>10688149

Because it's just like that...

>>10688155

... I think this guy is right >>10688139, it is ri

Thanks >>10688139

>>10688127
>What deck are you using for sentence analysis?

I'm not using any deck for sentence analysis. I do it all in notepad.

>How long did it take you to read all four volumes?
Took me around 3-4 months I guess, with like 20 pages every day. There were days when I just powergrinded it and days when I got off my task because I read SubaHibi at the same time.

>grammar sentence deck
Got my Tae Kim Clozed which is pretty much discontinued. Otherwise I just do sentence analysis on my own using the linguistics I learned from DOBJG breaking down sentences as much as possible and putting my own reflections and thoughts into it aswell.

>>10688166

You are pretty slow. Of course I was kidding.

>>10688177

Gee, you're so funny. Hahaha. Everyone look at the funny man

>>10688177

lol

>>10688187
>>10688201
Says the guy who doesn't even know hiragana yet.

>>10688288

>the guy

This isn't /b/ son and even there I'm sure they would realize those are two separate people

>doesn't even know hiragana yet

Yeah, learning ri written in one way and forgetting the fact there's two different ways to write it sure means I don't know hirigana yet.

On a scale of 1-10, how upset is your anus right now? Would you like me to get you a tampon before you bleed all over the floor?

>>10688171
Are you NEET?

>>10688626
>Yeah, learning ri written in one way and forgetting the fact there's two different ways to write it sure means I don't know hirigana yet.
Yep.

>>10688288

that nerd got told

>>10688757
No. I go to school, I do my reps on the train to and home from school.

I missed 3 days of new cards recently because of a major essay I had to hand in.

Are nicovideo streams a good way to learn Japanese?

Maybe to hear the natives talk.

I used to do these, then I done grammar

Now I do nothing
I wish I didnt fail at it all

Can someone tell me what/who ジャイ子 refers to? I think it should be a name, but I'm sort of clueless.

>>10691822
It's a name.

>>10691822
It's from Doraemon.

>>10691866
That's what I thought too, but I still don't really get it. Thx anyway!

>>10691880
aah. I just had to read the right bubble again... クリスチーネ... now I get it.

What advantage does KD have over RTK? From doing a bit of cursory reading on KD, I gathered that the only thing which it does and (the first) RTK does not, is teach you the readings. Both have mnemonics and learning radicals as the learning method.

>>10691942
Most people seem to go with KD if they want to skip mnemonics alltogether and just go pure grinding with spaced repetition. At least that's why I chose KD over RTK. I did onyomi together with that too though.

>>10691951
But KD doesn't skip mnemonics?

>>10691963
If you use the revised way of doing things, sure. KD's mnemonics are shit either way so they're worth skipping.

>>10691966
How do you use KD then? I've never really understood that method. In RTK all I had to do was remember the radicals, make up a story with them and write down the kanji.

>>10691975
Download the deck. Memorize the keyword for kanji. Memorize the onyomi(optional).

Say it out loud or in your mind before displaying the back side for every card in the deck. Nothing more to it.

For the revised way it's the same thing except that you memorize the mnemonic to help with getting the reading and meaning right.

Using mnemonics never worked for me and I thought it was a waste of time so i skipped all of that, and it turned out fine.

>>10691991
Well, I tried a few flashcards from the deck and I really can't see how KD is any better than RTK (which may not be true, but it seems that everyone links to KD for kanji learning). KD's mnemonics are also shit like you said.

Maybe I should go back to RTK since it actually works for me. The only downside is that I will be missing on readings/related vocab which is a pretty big deal.

>>10692016
Yeah go with RTK. You shouldn't bother much with kanji either way, it's vocab and grammar that matters in the end.

I normally have 50 daily new cards but today I only got 12.
Does it mean I have ``finished'' the deck?

>>10688128
li

>>10691251
Not even sure what you said, but if you don't give up you won't fail.

I do no cards. I don't know no kanji.

胆

Moon and rising sun = gall bladder

wat.

>>10692858
k hows ur fist day of learning goin?

>>10692858
月 as a radical means body.

>>10692893
Pretty fun I must say. I jumped straight into Kanji without learning hiragana or katakana for shiggles.

>>10692914
Thanks.

I am learning vocabulary fine but I am doing poorly with onomatopoeia. Is there a trick to it?

>>10692914
>>10692947
> 月 as a radical means body.
Small hint why.
月 ~ 肉

isn't it kind of embarrassing to rip off /a/ created links to use in /jp/ and still act like you've got any pride?

>>10693955
Not everyone goes to /a/, most don't actually.

>>10693966
i'm not really talking about where you go. i'm talking about how it's embarassing to use /a/ created guides on /jp/. not that anyone here is above that.

>>10693972
You're the only one that cares.

>>10693972
Someone should copy them, but inject autism and shitposting into it somehow.

Is this a good pace to go at? I've done 354 words so far.

pls respond

>>10694181
care? not really. i'm glad baby otaku can use the /a/ guide to learn japanese. just pointing out how it's embarrassing to insult /a/ when you're so new to this niche you're using their guide to learn japanese.

it's food for thought, or it's like a child rebelling against their parents. anyway, good luck with your studies.

>>10694677
We've had anki threads for a long time now, the links were only added recently due to the influx of ``how do I learn Japanese'' questions being posted in them.

Nobody here really cares enough to hold people's hands with learning Japanese, we don't have daily language threads to ``learn together''.

昔から/jp/には比較的日本語が読める奴は多かったが、なんだかここ数年でぐんっと増えたな。

やっぱ長年の/jp/の日本語スレやら最近の/a/のdjtとかのおかげってことなのか？

ただ・・・全体的なレベルとしては下がったな。昔は悟られずにVIPとかでカキコできるくらいの奴らはそこそこいたが最近はどっちかというと初心者やJLPT１とりたての奴らがメインって感じがする。

>>10694705
Most of them realized 4chan and /jp/ was turning to shit and left for 2ch/futaba.

>>10694487
no replies

>>10694705
>全体的なレベルとしては下がったな
このような糞スレがあるからじゃない？

というか、上手い人の数はあんまり変わらず、こんなスレが立てられるせいでアホの数が増えたばかり、精通率は下がったということだろう。

How do you type パーティ and similar words with these small kana characters? I type pa-teli, but it feels weird and unintuitive.

>>10694850
paati

>>10694850
>li
Do most people do this? I do xi.

>>10694850
thi

If you're talking about in general just use l or x.

>>10694908
Oh, I knew there was a better way. Thank you.

I hate when I've finished my reps for the day and I want to learn even more, but I know if I do my reps for the next few days will be a massive chore.

>>10694939
Nice rhyming dude.

>>10694871
He means the entire word I think.

>>10694952
It was unintentional

最奥

what does this mean?

>>10695052
the place you stik ur penis tip in

>>10695055
now i understand what it means, thanks

>>10695055
Too much vag slang in jap.

>>10642177
Did you finish a kanji deck before that? Seems like a waste.

Why the fuck is Anki for iPhone not free?

why wld i wste time lrning japanese when i can jst play games

>>10695860
The dude that created Anki is developing that by himself while the Android version is open source.

>>10642177
I did that for awhile and it did help e read eroge faster with better comprehension. I went through the core 2000 afterwards though just to round out my vocabulary, I like learning new words now even if I never use them. The core decks have more words that you would use as a functioning member of society or something to read a newspaper with.

>>10695860
Because why should Apple be alone in profiting from human stupidity?

Dudes, what's the next step after the Core 2000 deck?

>>10696063
DOBJG/mastering the grammar completely

>>10696161
Read that as CorePlus for some reason. But keep on grinding vocab as Core2k isn't nearly enough for more story based VNs.

You can also start reading moege.

>>10695860
Jailbreak your device and DL the cracked app from Appcake.

>>10696164
>keep on grinding vocab
Core 6000 then? CorePlus looks too huge for me.
Thanks.

Studied 606 cards in 143 minutes today.

And like always, it takes double the time for me to do my reps during my days off. Off to do some grammar.

http://ankisrs.net/docs/manual.html
>as a general rule if you can’t answer within about 10 seconds, it’s better to give up and show the answer than keep struggling to remember.

Can someone explain why? I always thought that as long as you answer it it doesn't really matter but then I can't find any studies that proves this and maybe just failing it after 10 seconds would just be better.

>>>/q/526663

>>10697690
It's just common sense. For starters, if you keep your card review times in check, you can make more of them. Instead of trying to remember a card for 20 seconds, it's better to fail it and make five 4-second reviews of it in the following days.

What is a good Japanese grammar dictionary?

>>10697690

the point of the cards is to figure out the answer almost instantly.

if it takes more than a second, it still needs to be drilled.

From that, 10+ seconds where you stare at it and try to recall --that's when you hit the answer button, grab a pen and paper, and write out the thing, the reading, AND the translation 20 times because you are failing hard at the memorization part and need a strong refresher that will make that card stick in your mind so that you will actually know what it means by the time it shows up again in a few days.

>>10678488
It's rather common
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPrPMkOQO-w

工場 is pretty common
even in eroge it isn't hard to find

I recently got through the demo of Slime Forest Adventure and couldn't find a download for the full version, so I ended up buying it. I figured I'd share it here so there's a download out there somewhere for the next anon.

http://www.mediafire.com/?rk1gibphzp5419v

>>10703941
Why would you do this?

>>10704291
Do what exactly?

>>10704299
Play slime forest

Why did I bother learning basic Kanji? I should have went straight to vocabulary.

>>10704817
Because people share the way they learned not the way they think would be the best.

What does もん mean? I see it after every other sentence on 2chan. Is it short for もの or something?

>>10704885
> Is it short for もの
Yes.

bampu pantsu

>>10710697
What color pantsu?

This is important.

I'm confused on what the difference between kanji and vocabulary is. Already finished learning hiragana/katakana.

I fucked up!!!

I know about 4000 vocab words, 2000 kanji, and no grammar. How do I into grammar? It is pissing me off that I know all these words and I don't know how to write a goddamn sentence, or read one.

>>10715456
At least you didn't fuck up like me. Went to 9k words before I did grammar.

I bet I made the most mistakes, minus just completely giving up, while learning Japanese. I'm dumb as hell.

>>10715416
Some people learn kanji separate of vocab (words made with kanji/s) so they get familiar with them. Personally I believe in just going straight to vocab and picking them up that way.

>>10715456
>>10715492
What's the problem with this?