/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>STG challenge: Batsugun

got a link?

>>10604475
It's a full run with no-shooting condition as Reimu solo on Easy. If you're really interested - Although I have no idea why you'd be -, I can post the replay.

Tenth continue would just keep as 9, as SA and UFO have shown us. Also, IN has limited continues (the game ends at 5:00AM)

Oh, and it's a FinalB clear. You can't continue during FinalB.

The challenges suck dick, OP.
As they have been for a while now.

>>10605157
The OP for the current thread is different from the OP from most of the latest threads.

If you have suggestions to make the challenges better, please tell so. I'll listen.

>>10605131
http://www.emuparadise.me/M.A.M.E._-_Multiple_Arcade_Machine_Emulator_ROMs/Batsugun_(set_1)/11336

brb playing Batsugun Special

In IN, should you kill boss' familiars in stage 4 and later?

>>10605234
Generally no, although for some attacks it can help (Astronomical Entombing for example), most of the time you're better off just focusing on hitting the boss.

>>10605234
Depends on mode, shot and what you're doing.

Generally, when scoring, go for maximal A and B (onscreen familiars and total summoned familiars), but you can usually milk some familiars for extra time, since they either respawn or are very durable. For mosts Spell Cards which spawn familiars it's generally worth more to shoot at the familiars than the boss since you get more time that way, assuming you're unfocused at -80% or beyond.

You forgot the old thread link.

>>10564763

>>10605279
>>10605192
Bumpworthy news right here.

>>10605252
>Astronomical Entombing

This spells wrecks me.

>>10605287
Try using Marisa, she wrecks that spellcard.

>>10605173

danke

>>10605257
1cc normal, border team
Struggling against marisa, always lose 2-3 lives, my bombs drain quickly because I only deathbomb out of habit, and I cant bomb every spell because that's not improving

>>10605608
Just focus and shoot at things as Yukari.

>>10605162

Two touhou related challenges in the style of every other old thread and one different game challenge in a separate post to the OP

>>10605082
2hu challenge: MoF Hard
Score: 720,840,670

Horrible Stage 4; died a bunch of times stupidly and lost a ton of faith.
Although happy since I have not played MoF in months.

>>10605608
Just use a bomb and dodge the bullets. Watch out for masterspark!

God fucking damnit, I hate when people are milling about my house and shit while playing.

It's not even distracting but I get the worst anxiety that they're going to call me for some stupid reason and it puts me off so badly.

The worst part is I don't think they've ever interrupted me while playing, it's all me.

>>10605803
The guys that I regularly play fighting games with are always barging into my room when I'm playing STGs or rhythm games. It's really annoying, because the other people in the house are the ones who usually answer the door, so they just let them right in.

This is made even worse by the fact that my door has no lock, so they can just help themselves to my room as they please.

>>10605618
>in a separate post to the OP
That makes absolutely no sense.

What shmups are relatively easy to become competent in terms of scoring?
I mean one where you don't have to plan a meticulous route where one slip-up calls for a restart.

Touhou's PoC type collection is just too bland, so I guess something with a different system would be nice.

>>10606192
Every shmup with a complex scoring system is hard to become good at. No exceptions.

You might want to look for a simple game that can basically be summed up as "shoot the bad guys and get points."

>>10605082
>>10605651
Miniscule improvement.

Score: 765,665,770
Replay: http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=27333

Played danmaku for years, never got better. What a waste of time.

Just as a fun tip to people who aren't making progress, it's genetically impossible for you to be good. Thanks for listening.

>>10605082
>>10605651
Miniscule improvements.

Score: 765,665,770
Replay: http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=27334

>>10606238
I dunno, there are simple systems like MoF and Jamestown that completely fuck you in the ass if you die once (or at the wrong time), complexity doesn't really seem to factor into it.

>>10606192
I think any shmups that doesn't rely too heavy (or at all) on increasing the base point value or some sort of chain/combo usually don't require too much planning for a descent score.

>>10606192
Mushi Original mode & R-Type LEO, most of your score comes from life remain bonuses, so becoming good at survival will lead to good scores.
Batsugun there's only one real scoring trick and you can do it a few times before the hard pattern starts.
Psikyo games are mostly survival based scoring, some have a coin chaining system, but missing a few won't ruin your run.
Older STGs are mostly get further = more points.

>>10606257
We've gone over this before, you're never going to get good at these games unless you're born with natural talent. Having good reflexes and critical thinking can only bring you so far.

Died on Aya, gg run

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=27335

>>10606192
As far as Touhou goes, Imperishable Night is my favorite for phat scores.

Unfortunately unless you're doing low-level play, one slip-up will likely be grounds for a restart.

>>10606496
Can't tell if sarcasm

>>10606674
Not him, but why would you even think that?
If you've played 2hu for a while, you should know that's true.

livestream.com/touhougameplay
I have about two hours to kill. Let's do something unproductive!

>>10606496
It's not healthy to talk to yourself like that, anonymous.

>>10605082

the run was shit and I should feel bad about submitting it, but I can't be arsed to do another creit of this when I have other things I want to do. here's the replay if anyone really cares. http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=27336

So all I have to do is use do is throw around shooting game lingo with confidence to be taken seriously by everyone no matter how shit I am?

cool

>>10606800
Well, if you're shit and give shit advice, people are going to notice.

>>10606800
Pretty much, yeah.

What the hell is a clip death?

I saw some gameplay video by some guy who posts on /jp/ and he was talking about how PCB was "clippy".

Is this just babies whining like OMG THE BULLET DIDN'T EVEN TOUCH ME WTF kind of thing, or am I missing something here?

>>10606912
Maybe he has a bad computer.

>>10606912
>The game never lies. The way I understand it, clip deaths arise from the player not having a good estimation of their character's hitbox and/or the bullet's hitbox, resulting in a death that could be easily avoided with some tapping.
According to some anon in a previous thread.

>>10606674
It stands true for any competitive game, anon. Natural talent is the be-all end-all, the deciding factor which will determine who comes out on top.

>>10606702
I like to talk to myself when I'm playing video games, but I'm not the same anon. I'm just another anon who wishes he could be something more than mediocre at STGs. I've been playing for nearly 12 years now, and all I have is a measly DDP 1-ALL. Missing on the first stage is another amazing ability that I have, it takes roughly 100 or so credits before I can start no-missing anything past Stage 1. Quite phenomenal.

>>10606912
It is sorta an excuse but it may also be used as a term to describe bullet patterns in which it's easy to accidentally getting hit by a small bit of the bullet hitbox due to high density.

>>10606959
>The game never lies.
Except when it does.

You should've watched >>10606700's stream
He died when literally nothing hit him.

>>10607090
EoSD in general may look like a liar but in reality it's just because some of the hitboxes are different. That may be what you saw.

>>10606496

Actually, I'd say this is one of the few kinds of
games that can be mastered with time and training,
eventually the patterns become built into your head
and you should be able to dominate

>>10607105
I'm a different Anon, but during the stream he died to an invisible bullet. It seems to be a bug.

>>10607137
In EoSD? I've only heard of that in DS.

>>10607148
IN

What is it about your favorite shmup that you think makes it better than other ones. What are the qualities of a good shump?

>>10607168

>>10607168
The presence of one fucking awesome loli.

... Among other things

twitc[spoilerh.t[/spoiler]v/chirpy13

MoF restarts

>>10607277
You suck at spoiling.

>>10605082
>>10575837
>>10603836
>>10607223
>>10607347
>>10607043
>>10606418
>>10607381
>>10588873
>>10606748
>>10606369
>>10606267
>>10607279
>>10603509
>>10607308
lel

>>10607277
You suck at everything.

>>10607417
I don't deny this.

>>10607277
Thanks for the stream.

>>10606192
MoF for Touhou certainly. Stupid, unintuitive tricks won't be needed until you can no-miss and capture all but one spellcard.

>>10607479
MoF is the one Touhou most punishing for single deaths, what are you talking about?

Here's a bad Easy mode score, beat it at your leisure.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=27339

>>10607479
Timing out VoWG is the only reason to play MoF. Still can't believe I was able to do it in less than a year of playing Touhou, I blame it on luck.

Or maybe it was the fact that I tried for three months consecutively for an hour each day.

>>10607576
Maybe I should also masochistically do that.

I died while blinking...

Batsugun Normal Version

i have a few hundred MoF attempts and still haven't heard the primal scene of japan the girl saw

why am i so bad

>>10608099
I have a few hundred MoF attempts and still haven't seen stage 2. Don't feel bad.

How do I get good?
I love 2hu, but I suck dick at it, I can't even keep up with lunatic.

>>10608159
Keep playing until you're not bad anymore.

>>10607606
You can also grind Ketsui's ura loop if you really want to hate yourself. Some faggots in opposite /jp/ have said that it's really easy, but it isn't. The biggest bullshit is how they said that doom is one of the easier CAVE TLBs. What a load of utter cack.

>>10608099
Just remember, practice makes perfect!

>>10608099
>>10608159
Kill yourself until you are reborn with ~talent~. Or live with being average at best after grinding for hundreds of hours.

Taking it easy with Easy mode. Maybe a credit of Hard too, if I feel brave.

twitch.tv/vgamet

>>10608418
You better not suck.

>>10607519
Competitive means you have relatively near to top of the score. MoF gets you close to the top just by not dying. Other games, you have learn some of the hard tricks and not dying to be near the top.

Dying can be prevented by pressing x for lesser score penalty. You cannot skip tricks by pressing x.

>>10608173
>The biggest bullshit is how they said that doom is one of the easier CAVE TLBs

He absolutely is. This is because he's fairly designed with dodgeable patterns, whereas most Cave TLBs force you to resource spam through their undodgeable bullshit.

Please stream, /jp/

>>10608198
Stop it. You can improve. I've gotten multiple Lunatic clears within five months of playing Touhou, and went from being a complete beginner to being able to clear level 10~12 tier songs in IIDX within only a year of playing. You just need to stop being so pessimistic about everything and just play the damn game.

>>10609273
If we want to talk about which is the easiest, I'd have to say that DOJBL Hibachi is probably the easiest. All you need to do is hyper him and watch the health drain.

I finished TD on normal, making it my second finished game after IN. I know it's not considered hard or anything, but i still am damn proud of myself.
Now, on to MoF

>>10609986
Congratulations, TD was my first 1CC on Normal.

>>10609905
Spiritual Larsa is by far the easiest Cave TLB.

Do you think skipping from normal to lunatic is a good idea after 1cc'ing every touhou on normal?

I don't really want to grind through hard just to have to learn the patterns again for lunatic, so I was thinking of just getting straight to it.

>>10608099

Maybe if you stopped namedropping "the primal scene of japan the girl saw" instead of saying Stage 5 like a normal person and not just some huge weeb you'd do a little better.

Fuck you. I wonder how many idiots you've fooled into thinking you're not just another garbage player who only plays to be part of some stupid community.

>>10610153
>I don't really want to grind through hard just to have to learn the patterns again for lunatic

Most Lunatic patterns are just Hard patterns but faster and with a few more bullets.
Personally, I've found practicing 1 level above what I play at is the fastest way to improve.
For example, I got my IN Hard 1cc by playing through the game with continues on Lunatic, then practicing stages 4, 5, and 6 in Lunatic. It made them much easier to handle on Hard.

Shitty first clear. Completely botched Jupiter.

I don't think I have much of a chance to win this...

>>10610153
I skipped from Normal to Lunatic in EoSD & reached Remi after a few days of practice, so yes it should be fine.

fuck it, I'm too high for this

I'll stay paddling around Batsugun Arrange first loop and have fun instead

>>10610244
How many time actually playing did you spend ? I did the same but it was more about 1 month later that i finished (with continue) EoSD with continue (however i must admit I grinded the extra at that time). I admit that I casually play touhou so my progression is quite slow but what you say is still impressive.

>>10610327
I think I played about 1-2 hours a day, so it probably took around 7-8 hours to reach remi.

>>10610450
ok, I find it impressive, but do you mean with or without continues ?

>>10610450
How in the hell did you take such a big step up so quickly?

>>10610521
You get about 25 lives and close to 80 bombs if you creditfeed, it's not really that big a step.

Sanae's shots in UFO look so disgusting I can't even bring myself to attempt a clear...

>>10610727
Play someone else, problem solved

>>10610494
without continues
>>10610521
I cleared IN & PoFV Lunatic before & play arcade STGs, but only ever Played Normal for the others. Skipping Hard made Lunatic progress a lot slower than in IN, but the stage layout's just the same as on Normal, so you just need to modify your Normal route a bit to deal with the denser patterns. Most of the problems were with re-learning the bosses.

Are the PC-98 games easier or harder? I'm quite curious about them and will probably check them out regardless...

>>10610797
Harder

>>10610797
4 is easy, 2 & 3 are hard, not sure about the other 2.

>>10610797
Lotus Land Story might be the easiest Touhou game. The others are not easy though.

>>10610819
>>10610929
HRtP - difficult?
I don't know what's hard about it to you. I can press x with ease.

>>10610797

HRtP is easy if you understand its mechanics. otherwise i will probably make you continue 20 times.

SoEW is hard to clear. harder than most windows games anyway.

PoDD is the hardest game in the entire series. it requires a lot from you that the other games don't

LLS is shit. it's too easy if you play it with bombs, fucking stupid if you try No Bomb runs.

MS is moderately difficult. stage 4 is clippy shit and yumeko fucks you in the ass, but the remaining game is fairly simple and easy to clear.

How do I go about downloading Touhou?

>>10611174
fly to japan and ask zun nicely

Is there a way to play Touhou on the PSP?
I've been trying to follow directions from this one blog that said they ported it successfully, but I can't seem to get it to work.

http://jenesis4649.blog.fc2.com/ is the blog by the way.

>>10611133
I played it. I didn't understand it. It was not a shmup. Hence, i was not interested in learning it. So i have not played it. I was of course referring to the rest of the games in the PC98 era

>>10611174
There's a certain Moriya Shrine that engages in relevant benign activities..

>>10611133
>LLS is shit. it's too easy if you play it with bombs

Go get an E score in Lunatic then

twitch.tv/yorgje
just workin on an eosd normal 1cc, nothin fancy :)

I finally 1cc'd Subterranean on normal!

It was so close, but I had around 5 lives left by Okuu's last spellcard, and by the time I beat it, I only had 2 remaining.

What should I try next?

>>10611991
UFO on lunatic.

>>10612003
2ez xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>10612003
1lifing Nazrin on lunatic sounds like a fair challenge, I think.
It's been a while since I touched UFO, or any 2hu game.
Getting high in about two hours, I'll play then and I'll be back to post my results.

vc: Brahmanical fecurin

>>10612089
If you can 1cc SA normal, no deaths on lunatic Nazrin shouldn't be difficult.

>>10612129
Oh wait I missed
>Getting high in about two hours

Yeah, you might have trouble.

>>10612089
>>10611991
>It's been a while since I touched UFO, or any 2hu game.
>I finally 1cc'd Subterranean on normal!

I'm not sure what you're smoking, but seems like you'll be going to 420 graze it hard.

Say hello to Bong Meiling for me.

>>10612197
Not the same guy as the first post, sorry you got that impression.
Just the NEET from stonerchan here, doing my challenge.
To give you an idea of how stoned I was (and still am) I was looking at my top score and thought I ended with the same score on both playthroughs.
My HIGH score is attached. I'm in no shape to do this. Just taking it easy. Having legal weed is so incredible.
I am sorry "smoke weed erryrday", I have failed you. Maybe a champion of taking it easy will be able to conquer Gensokyo, and then the world will end, only to begin again.
Also, I had a strange thought about an hour ago: has EirinxKeine ever been done? If not, it should.

>>10613354
>has EirinxKeine ever been done?
Yes it has. I'm more into Keine x Mokou though.

Kaguya a shit.

What defines a top STG player, /jp/?

>>10613473
High scores, high survival skills.

>>10613473
High scores in lots of different games.

1CCs don't matter unless you're beating the absolute hardest games in existence (DOJ Death Label, Futari Ultra 1.01). Having a top score in only one or two games isn't very impressive, either. To be a /top/ player, you have to be great at a ton of different games.

>>10613632
This is stupid. Having just one top score is impressive in itself. You sound like one who has no idea about how demanding getting a top score in a complicated danmaku game is.

>>10613666
Take a look at the Japanese arcade rankings. There are a lot of people who have a single world record to their name, but that doesn't make them a /top/ STG player. The best of the best are the guys who are at, or near the top in a bunch of different games.

being good at just a single game would quite literally make you a one trick pony. don't people use that label to insult or dismiss someone?

>>10613835
It takes a lot of dedication to play a game for many years, and usually, if somebody has a top score, they'll be getting high scores in other games if they practice them enough.

>>10613473
Being able to get a highly competitive score, as in world record level competition, western records mean nothing.

>>10614128
Anybody can get a high score in any game if they practice enough.

I think the point here is how some people NEED to play a game for many years (as you said) in order to get a top score. The best players produce similar results in a matter of months.

>>10613835
Yeah, HS-sanbo is considered rather bad player since he only plays one game at the WR level.

It's true that being nearly WR-level good at several games points out the most flexible players. It can be argued whether this makes some people ultimately better than ones who have spent relatively large amounts of time with one game and hold almost every record available to it.

A combination of dominance over things and flexibility is what makes the most respected players within the STG community.

Having a single WR obviously shows that one has knowledge over the game where the record is held, and is therefore good in it and thus should be considered as a good player to an extent. Adding flexibility adds one more skill and requires more time though, so obviously players good in many games should gain more respect. However, both players are good and probably either top-tier or close to it.

>>10614156
I don't know why you'd bring up western records. There's only one western player who has a WR level score.

>>10614178
>Anybody can get a high score in any game if they practice enough

Not really. It takes a certain mindset and a whole lot of patience to be able to play for score in the first place. I know that a lot of people like to get first-loop clears in DDP and call it a day, or people get frustrated after not reaching their target scores, and end up quitting for a week or two and end up losing all of their skill. These are bad things, and are mostly the cause of why nobody(in the West) gets any better at these games. They aren't consistent enough, they don't have STG fundamentals, and they aren't serious enough about getting better.

No discipline, I swear.

>>10614212
Abschüssig has the Homura WR. That must make him the only good Western player.

>>10614212
>I know that a lot of people like to get first-loop clears in DDP and call it a day, or people get frustrated after not reaching their target scores, and end up quitting for a week or two and end up losing all of their skill.

Then they aren't practicing enough.

>>10614200
>There's only one western player who has a WR level score.
What. I don't know if you're talking about shmups only, but unless things are changes since I last checked, there are three Western people who currently hold a WR in Touhou (PC-98 not included).

>>10614200
>I don't know why you'd bring up western records.
Because I've said to people before that, getting highly competitive scores would make you a top player, and had it taken as meaning western record level, so it was just for clarity really.

>>10614314
I am talking about arcade games. Touhou competition is much lower.

Does grazing do anything in Mountain of Faith?

>>10614481
No. It still makes the grazing noise, if you like that sort of thing.

>>10614517

How should I configure my buttons for DoDonPachi in MAME?

I have it so that Z is my regular shot on autofire so I don't have to keep tapping (nothing to rest my wrist on due to shitty desk, tapping hurts), but now it seems that I can't laser at all.

Is there any way to get laser as it's own separate button? on maybe X, so I can have bomb on C?

>>10614579
You can turn autofire on in the service menu, anon.

>>10614212
who's that guy on the shmup farm that knows everything about Otomedius? diekatze or something?

now that's true dedication. everyone else is a casual by comparison.

>>10614598

Thanks, new to MAME

http://livestream.com/seppostream/
Playing Touhou badly. Starting off with MoF for the thread, probably continuing with some IN. Open for requests.

>Touhou challenge: Score in MoF Easy
1,290,827,640 - ReimuA

No scoring. Grayed items/general.

http://daifukkat.su/files/don-p.swf

>>10614905
Best shmup announcer.

>>10614195
HS always routs Kagamin's efforts in PCB though, and you know who Kagamin is. Also there's a talk of him having 5.9B with Scarlet Team in IN Lunatic, and probably some other high unpublished score.

I could really use some advice on dealing with Marisa's 'Milky Way' spell in IN. This is just beyond a joke...

I can do it if I shoot her and kill her quicker than it takes for the time to run out, but I've been trying to master it pacifist so that I know I can get through it without bombing on a proper run. So far I haven't even managed one success out of 250 tries. I've only even managed to reach the point where the timer gets low enough to start beeping one time.

If I take my eyes off the big stars, I get killed by the little ones from the side. If I take my eyes of the little stars, I get killed by the big ones. And even if I'm carefully observing both at the same time, those quick clusters of small stars from the upper screen end up getting me because, even if I dodge them, I end up moving into the path of something else and getting hit.

>>10615517

I timed it out after 6 tries and I haven't even 1cc'd any of the games on hard, let alone lunatic, and can't finish an extra stage.

(I sure hope you're talking about normal mode because that's what I just did.)

Anyway I have a bunch of cards that I'm sure I couldn't time out too, even after 250 tries but...

My advice is to not stress over one card so much. Even go play a different game for a while, because for card specifics I don't know what to tell you.

It's slow enough that you can look ahead to see where the streams of stars are headed so you can steer clear, you'll have to unfocus quickly to fling yourself through the gaps of the big spiraling stars in a pinch, and that's really it.
I didn't see any real strategy but if I had to explain, well, there it is...

I bet if you just stop now and try again tomorrow you'll get it in a fraction of the attempts you made.

I just don't think that obsessing perfection is good for anyone and it can end up counterproductive (frustration, etc.).
That's also why I never use spell practice on it's own...

>>10615345
ISO also plays a billion different games; HS *should* be better than him at PCB.

>>10615517
Make that 300 times... guess I should just give up for now and just use a bomb for this card. Maybe in time when I get better I'll have an easier time with it.

>>10615620
>you'll have to unfocus quickly to fling yourself through the gaps of the big spiraling stars in a pinch, and that's really it.
Hmm, I was just using focus the whole time. I find that during complex patterns, if I move around unfocused I just end up crashing into something and killing myself. I didn't seem to have trouble getting between the stars while focused, to be honest. My issue is mostly that in my attempts to dodge one thing, I end up moving right into the path of something else and colliding with it.

But yeah, guess you're right, I'll put it aside for now and come back to it some other time. I was just wondering if there was some trick to it that I was missing, but I guess I just suck, aha.

>>10615517
I think the stars that come from the top of the screen are static, so you shouldn't have to worry about them once you learn where they're coming from.

>>10610084
Which is ironic in light of that Youtube video proclaiming it THE HARDEST VIDEO GAME BOSS EVER.

>>10614934
Second best. You forgot HEAVEN IS HERE INSIDE MY SOUL!

>>10615517
Try unfocusing. Not releasing shift, I mean don't focus your gaze on any one thing in particular. Be aware of everything around you. Trying to dodge one thing at a time will get you caught from another direction.

As for actually releasing shift like >>10615620 said, I dunno if that's necessary but I guess it's worth a shot.

IN Extra... Honest Man's Death... WHAT.

>>10615847
>Trying to dodge one thing at a time will get you caught from another direction.
Sounds familiar. I guess I'm just not at the stage where I can observe the whole screen yet, but hopefully that'll come naturally the more I play.

I'm not exactly experienced at Touhou. I've tried it on a few occasions in the past, but only really started getting into it recently. Finally managed to 1CC a game (IN), but it was only on easy difficulty, so I don't know if that even counts. I seem to be getting better, but I always end up using at least one continue before I reach the end of stage 5.

>>10615703
I was going to say, "It's Normal, just practice more. Watch a video of someone doing it," but then I actually tried to time it out and it's a lot more difficult than I expected.
But if you just focus and lock Ran onto her, Marisa is dead very quickly.

>>10615882
Hehe. One of my favorite IN spell cards.

>>10615901
>But if you just focus and lock Ran onto her, Marisa is dead very quickly.
Yeah, I don't have too much trouble if I just have to ride it out long enough to kill her, but lasting out the full duration is seemingly beyond my present capabilities.

>>10615928
Then don't sweat it. Unless you're trying for a no death pacifist run, you'll almost always kill her before death/bombing.

>>10615882
do it in circles anon

>>10615890
Oh, you don't have to look at the whole screen, a hundred pixels or so on each side of you should suffice. I just mean that you have to look left and right and top with about equal priority.

>>10615882
The laser only kills you if you stand in the same position as it was fired.
So for example, if you see the laser coming from the left, move to the left straight into it, doesn't have to be a lot, just a small tap should do the trick.

http://www.livestream.com/touhougameplay

>>10615882

too easy...

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=27379

i can stream some eosd if you want, but i'm really bad so you have to promise not to laugh at me

>>10617599
Why not.

>>10617599
>>10617610
http://www.justin.tv/bafomesk

>>10617618
>justin.tv

>>10617622
it's the best streaming website there is

>>10615882
I think the people are not counting how many do you do it.
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=27380

>>10617942
.fortune

>>10617942
.8ball will adamar strm today?

>>10617942
godzilla drmdr

>>10617942
hello godzilla

>>10617942
What the actual fuck

>>10617942
.w stockholm

>>10614779
Back online. Taking it easy with IN

>>10617942
oh fuck you

this is not even funny

not_godzilla: You will score nicely today.

Thanks, godzilla

>>10617942
tfw i will never be as good as godzilla ;______;

>>10619874
Damn straight, scrub. Bow down and lick our feet, you /jp/ peon.

twitch.tv/chirpy13
Touhou 14.

aww fuck i just caugh my sefl licking the air exhaust on my laptop

>>10622894
What does it meeEEeean~?

>>10622894
tits

>>10622909
are bad

>>10622900
Is this a Nostalgia Critic reference?

Well /jp/ I just beat my first normal CC of EoSD (Reimu A).

For the sake of getting good at STGs. should I move on to PCB or keep drilling EoSD with different difficulties/shot types?

Does everyone watch replays to find out how to beat static spellcard patterns?

Yesterday I tried IN, normal mode since I'm pretty new to Touhou and STGs. First run was going good, just one death a piece against Keine and Marisa. Then the useless bunny's weird patterns stuck it in me really hard. I managed to figure those out by myself, but later on extra was even worse. After a bunch of tries, I cheated and looked up how to do Ex-Keine's first and last cards, as well as a bunch of Mokou's.

Afterwards, it felt nice to know how to deal with Keine's aimed shots, but it was also a little disappointing I couldn't figure it out on my own.

>>10624605
>Does everyone watch replays to find out how to beat static spellcard patterns?
No.

>>10624605
Reisen's patterns are pretty much gimmicks. The answer is usually to stay still, or to move a few pixels to the left, or something like that.

Marisa is harder.

>>10624617
Not to demean your advice, but he said Keine.

>>10624476
How long did it take you to 1CC EoSD normal?

>>10624476
Keep drilling

>>10624683
For how long should you drill a game?

I 1cc'd normal TH13 (with all chars), TH10 and TH7. I started doing TH13 hard, but I dont feel too comfortable, even if I can get to stage 4.

>>10624668
Probably around 100 or so attempts.
I didn't sit down and apply myself grind them all at once until I made it to stage 6.
It was mostly just casual playing during lectures or in between DotA matches until that point, though.

>>10624668
Around 100 attempts.
Most of them were casual plays during lecture or in between DotA matches, I only recently started grinding them out after I could consistently make it to stage 6.

Is extra worth trying out? Or is it too far above my level?

>>10624999
>casual plays during lecture
D:

>Is extra worth trying out? Or is it too far above my level?
I also recently beat EoSD on normal and extra doesn't seem too unmanageable. I've played it probably a bit less than ten times, and I can get to around 70%.
I think if you watch a playthrough of it and practice a bit, you could at the very least come close to beating it.
It's also fun. Try it!

>>10624476
>>10624932
Rather than increasing the difficulty try doing a NB 1cc next, if you don't feel comfortable on Hard yet.

>>10625038
I'll try that, but is it not going to affect your deathbombing reaction?

>>10625052
You'll be fine

Nindel! Pls strm.

>>10624932
As long as it takes. Most efficient way to make progress is to grind out stage practice until you're consistent with most of the game. Since you're a normal/hard player, doing your practice on Lunatic is a good way to improve fast. Turning up the FPS to 75 or 90 on your current difficulty is also pretty good for improving your reactionary abilities.

>>10627467
>90 FPS

I just tried this and have no words to describe how I feel.

>>10627573
Depressed? Frustrated? Yeah, that was bad advice. Don't do it.

>>10627573
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cabvd2IZZHM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cyPHtW-tcQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpB0nzlBg1k

I don't know what I should say to describe how I feel when I see people actually 1cc'ing the phantasmagoria on that speed on the highest difficulty. the 2 cleared PoFV with komachi to boot. she's one of the hardest characters to clear the game with.
admittedly, PoDD 1cc was done with yumemi who's very powerful, but most people can't clear the game at normal speed, so it's very impressive still.

>>10627908
I liked you better with the "not anon"-nick. Also, it's not very nice to post links to others' Youtube videos on 4chan without their permission.

You can probably tell me why Komachi is the hardest girl, or are you basing it on hear-say again? I do agree with you, but I'd like to hear your reasoning.

>>10628016
If the uploader felt strongly about it being shared without permission they would have made it private.

>>10628016
Komachi is one of the hardest to clear, mainly because the AI has no problems dodging anything she has. Her ex-,spell- and boss attacks don't pose a threat to it at all unlike reimu's ying yang orbs, for example. The matches rarely end sooner than they should because of that.
additionally to that, you start losing lives in stage 6 with komachi. beating marisa in the first round is really difficult seeing how you have to survive for 3 minutes. this makes it more difficult for her to have 2 or 3 extra lives against shikieiki.

>>10628074
Alright.

Also, Komachi's charge speed isn't godawful, but 90fps generally messes everything you have in your mind about timings, so it'll be hard to rely on them. I assume you've tried the game at 90fps to know.

Oh, and Komachi's scope usage at 90fps really hurts your eyes.

>>10627902
Telling someone to push their limits is never bad advice. If you expect an easy clear out of it then you're missing the point completely. If you clear it at all then you're quite dedicated (90fps normal is close to 60fps Lunatic in some ways). If you want to sit on the same difficulty and make little to no progress then go for it, but telling someone not to practice something they can't yet do because you yourself aren't willing to put in any effort to achieve something just makes you look like a retard.

>>10628182
Komachi's scope hurts my eyes at 60fps.

>>10628278
90FPS is a two-sided blade. It's easy to hurt yourself and mess up every timing-releated thing and your audio cues will get out of shape within a short timespan on 90 fps training.

90fps does, however, help you to increase your reaction speed and bullet-reading speed.

It's not the only method of practice out there, though. You can clear other games on normal, clear the same game on other difficulties and try some extra stages.

Or you could try scoring. I wouldn't recommend starting scoring from EoSD, though.

>>10628278
I don't think they're implying what you think they were. 90fps is an odd, gimmicky player-set challenge mode. It's fun for shits and giggles, but it really won't get you anywhere in trying to become better at the "regular" game. In fact, for new players, I would wager that it would make things much worse, as the timing/character speed etc. would be constantly thrown all over the place, making spellcard memorization and even basic play control unnecessarily difficult. Moreover, 90fps normal isn't close to the same as 60fps lunatic. The patterns of some spellcards change drastically between difficulties, and memoring the faster version of a lower-difficulty pattern won't necessarily help you when going back to 60fps.

Of course I agree that players need to push their limits to improve, but 90fps is a pretty crappy way to go about it (in terms of improvement; if you're having fun with it, by all means go for it). It also goes without saying that people that have never touched a shmup before in their lives should not be starting out on Lunatic.

>>10628278
Please don't advocate doing something that will bring nothing but frustration and depression to inexperienced players.

>>10628314
90FPS mode is a pretty stupid idea even for experienced players looking to get better. Shmups are games that require precise movement for both survival and scoring. Experimenting with different speeds is one of the worst things you can do for that.

>>10624617
I don't think staying still is recommended on any of Reisen's cards. Usually you move upwards when they phase out.

>>10628340
Normally, the best way to get better is baptism by fire. But on 90FPS, you're really not getting anything accomplished. In my experience, whenever I've upped the speed of a game, my brain became accustomed to the speed for an hour or so afterwards. This produced an interesting effect, as I felt like I had much more time to do things, chaining, getting bees, and dodging bullets. This effect only lasted for about an hour, and then my brain went back to it's normal speed. I've had a similar effect with non-STG games before, but it always wore off after an hour of playing normally.

It can be good practice, but it's probably better to just play the game normally. But whatever, I'm talking out my ass here. I've never been able to beat Hibachi in DDP, so my opinion is probably invalid.

What is the coolest thing a person can do in Touhou in your opinion, /jp/?

>>10629365
Be HS.

>>10629365
No bombs no miss EoSD lunatic clear

>>10629365
Great Fairy Wars extra.
No bombs.
No deaths.
NO ICE

>>10629473
Did it yesterday, just forgot to save the replay.

>>10629692
Neato.

>>10629692
Awesome!
I'm sure you can do a similar job within a few attempts. Maybe not perfect but a run with a few deaths would be cool too! Remember to save the replay next time!

>>10629365
Post framedata on IRC and use :V after every sentence.

My life question has always been, "How many frames will it take for that pink bullet to reach my ship?" And after going on IRC, I've found my answer. Thank you, IRC overlords.

>>10629692
I beat SOF-WTN in a scoring money match, but it was at a really obscure tournament, so I couldn't get a replay.

>>10629380
This. Clio, you have my respect.

>>10629365
Play for score!

>>10629365
Beat a superplayer (HS, Shin, you know the guys)

>>10629972
I think you mean play for score well.

Being a dick to everybody while being really good yourself is a really cool thing to do. Subtle whining about the community being dead after just chasing three new players away is a bonus.

"Gee, I sure wish I had more people to do scoring money matches with!"

>>10629365
>>10617942

What is the coolest thing a /jp/er has ever done in Touhou?

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=27423

I think I'm try to hold on too much on my trance, and missing some key resources moments. Please help.

>>10630446
eckseckssee

>>10630438
IN normal wr

EoSD L2MNB

>>10630438
strming

>>10630471
I have no idea what I'm doing. What needs to be done to get this working?

>>10630589
Play the stages in practice mode, memorize which enemies drop certain spirits, trance there.

Really, that's all there is to it. I've never bothered scoring in TD, so I wouldn't know about that!

Can we get a stream going?

>>10630768
twitch.tv/yorgje

>>10630478
I didn't know someone from /jp/ has got an IN Normal WR. Can you point me to the replay?

Oops

So a friend told me that in Touhou fandom there's some tradition where everyone spits into a bowl.

Can anyone explain this to me?

>>10631838
He's just trying to clone you, don't do it.

ketsui coming to ps3

microsoft is finished

>>10629473
This.

Please stream, /jp/

Deathbombed Mountain of Faith twice. So close.

Besides Chen, my favorite Touhou is Marisa. It's because she fires a huge fukkin laser.

>>10633083
But Yuuka has green hair and fires TWO huge fukkin lasers.

>>10633090
I feel the need to point out that Gengetsu, from the same game, also fires fucking huge lasers.

But I guess most people probably wouldn't know anything about that.

>>10633095
Naw, she fires a huge laser but it's not fukkin huge.

>>10633083
>>10633090
>>10633095
>>10633106
In damnaku, quantity > quality

>>10633114

Those warriors from the Pagoda Ship have curved lasers.

Curved.
Lasers.

>>10633114
But danmaku is all about power, anon.

>>10633114
You don't understand. It's not just a case of quantity > quality here. In Shou's case, the lasers are both more plentiful but also better!

>>10632396
>5pb has the PS3 Ketsui port slated for release on July 25.

How do I stop being terrible?

>>10633333
Stop dying with bombs in stock.
Practice more.

>>10633333
Stop dying with bombs in stock.
Practice more.Stop dying with bombs in stock.
Practice more.Stop dying with bombs in stock.
Practice more.Stop dying with bombs in stock.
Practice more.Stop dying with bombs in stock.
Practice more.
Stop dying with bombs in stock.
Practice more.

>>10633333
Sick quints dude.

Also, hold shift for focused movement.

>>10633333
Just play easy, because losing on S4 is silly.

>>10633560
That's stage 5 midboss in the picture.

>>10633333
Kill yourself until you're born with natural talent.

>>10633060
Still no streams? Aww

I've started playing CAVE games and I like them a lot. I've been playing both them and Touhou a lot more often recently and want to get a better input device (I currently have a rubber dome keyboard).

I don't know what would be better, a mechanical keyboard with Cherry MX Red or an arcade stick. I have a maximum budget of €300. I'd prefer a keyboard, and though for Touhou there seems not to be much difference between controllers, for other STG people use arcade stick almost always from what I've seen.

If it just comes down to personal preference in all cases then I'd get a keyboard, but I'm not sure if you can, for example, control your moving speed in some games (especially in Touhou or CAVE ones) with an arcade stick. Sorry for the noobish question.

>>10633643
Keyboard is more accurate.

I need some help. Recently I got a new laptop. For some reason I can't use bomb in focus mode. I hold shift and nothing happens when I press x. Never had this problem with my old PC. Perhaps this is one of the major problems that I can't beat TD in normal. Help?

>>10633672
There's no easy solution.

Try http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=219.0 and https://www.microsoft.com/appliedsciences/content/projects/KeyboardGhostingDemo.aspx

>>10633643
The best players in the world use arcade sticks.

>>10633677
Awww yeah. Works like a charm! Thank you kind anon

>>10633643
>I'm not sure if you can, for example, control your moving speed in some games (especially in Touhou or CAVE ones) with an arcade stick.

CAVE games (all arcade games) are developed to be used with an arcade, so I have no idea why you'd be unsure about that.

In the end it all comes down to personal preference, all the top players use sticks, but people have achieved great scores with pads & keyboards, you just need to try them out and pick whichever you're most comfortable with.

>>10633570
I would stream but I don't think anyone wants to watch MoF normal stage practice.

>>10633824
We've seen worse.

>>10633845
I also don't have a mic.

>>10633872
Stream please.

>>10633653
>>10633679
Thanks.

>>10633790
>CAVE games (all arcade games) are developed to be used with an arcade, so I have no idea why you'd be unsure about that.
Maybe I'm retarded, but I've been reading a bit and CAVE games seems to use digital input movement: you either move or don't move, but there's no speed variation depending on the stick tilt (apart from focus), that's what my doubt was about.

I'll probably settle for a Filco or wait for the WASD V2 in that case.

>>10633897
twitch.tv/eldestructoe
Warning: will be boring.

>>10633960
>will be boring
will bully then

>>10633114
fuck you shou choke on your fucking pagoda

>>10633960
where's the kanako bgm?
without it it just seems emotionless

>>10634077
We're breaking the law now, kid.

>>10634077
I'll play her boss music next attempt.

>streamers playing their own taste in touhou arranges instead of the game soundtrack

Who am I quoting?

Who are the top 3 most entertaining streamers, /jp/?

>>10634915
Adamar, drmdr and amdrad.

>>10634915
Ramada, Draama and Madara.

>>10634915
Adamar, Exxel, Mikkey.

>>10634915
Nindella, Riz, Yorgje.

>>10634915
You mean from those 3 that still stream?

>>10635009
>Exxel
>>10635014
>Nindella, Riz

R.I.P.

>>10634915
SeppoHovi, drmr and godzilla

>>10634915
Nindel, Nindella, Onin.

>>10634915
anyone that doesn't constantly restart runs

how do i play that new dodonpachi game without going to japan
ive seen some wizards or some shit making videos of it on youtube
did they plug in their computer to the arcade machine or something


but seriously

>>10635146
yes they're recorded from the PCBs
the 360 port comes out at the end of may, those are your only options.

jp pls stream

how come SA is such a pain in the ass
also ufo stage 5

>>10635991
Fuck off.

>>10635992
fuck you
no need to be so rude dipshit

>>10635957
Good job. I wish I could say that I've accomplished something, but 90M ending on 2-4 in DDP isn't exactly worth boasting about.

Pretty sure that dropping a chain mid-game is the is one of the worst feelings one can experience. I just want to prove that I can be good, dammit. ;_;

>>10635957
Mikkey is awesome.

what's a good ps2 adapter for the pc? i want to play with my controller since my controller is just sitting around gathering dust.

>>10636260
http://dx.com/p/ps2-game-controller-to-pc-usb-converter-789
I was using this. (still works, I just use other gamepads now.)

>>10636260
i use Smart Joy plus
Either way the d-pad movements on playstation controllers are exceptionally tight, perfect for 2hu

>>10635957

>>10628340
>>10629192
Practicing Touhou at 90FPS has been the primary source for my personal improvement over the past two or so years. I've been able to react faster, perform more precise movements and read more bullets faster as a direct result. Sure, you can get an adrenaline rush from it and perform better for a little while after because of it, and I can see how some people may interpret that as something that wears off and ends up ultimately meaningless, but I can confirm that the skills do last, it's just not as drastic of an improvement as the adrenaline rush (but I still find it's much better than practicing the same things at 60FPS). Individual results vary obviously and it's not for everybody, but I still strongly recommend the practice for most other people as well, if they're looking to improve their general shmup skills.

>>10637360
A small continuation, I should mention that I don't actually recommend practicing at 90FPS in games you're focusing on and making significant progress in. I believe it's much better to practice other games you may find fairly easy and aren't particularly interested in scoring in or whatever, so that the 90FPS timings, weird tactics and memorization don't compromise your usual normal speed strategies. 90FPS is just used to strengthen the general skills: reading/dodging, precision, and reaction time. It does absolutely nothing for memorization (and will actually hinder your normal progress if you already have the game memorized at normal speed). For example, while I was focusing on UFO scoring and whatnot, I would often practice MoF at 90FPS, a game I find fairly trivial for survival. This way my general skills were being flexed often, but it wasn't hindering all my timings and strategies for UFO.

>>10637391
>I believe it's much better to practice other games you may find fairly easy and aren't particularly interested in scoring in or whatever
But what if you're interested in playing somewhat well in all of the Touhou games instead of just one?

>>10638135
are you a wizard, no one has that kind of time. inb4 ~talent~

>>10638383
>no one has that kind of time.
inb4AM

twitch.tv/adamar09

Back due to popular demand. UFO normal again, no doubt. Might try the MoF easy challenge as well.

New thread:
>>10638740