/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Naisho no Naisho: 99.7% complete.
Just a tad bit longer!

Don't display this every time there's a mecha fight if there isn't gameplay, Giga.

I'm about to start Sukimazakura to Uso no Machi because the OP and the description sounds nice. Plus, it's nearly spring.

I finished Sisters Ultra. I hadn't played the previous version so I don't know first hand what they changed, but it's a rather well animated work. It feels more like an interactive movie than anything, although it's linear.

Story-wise I wasn't expecting much, but the twist and conclusion really felt rushed or something. The TV news reports and phone calls also gave much of the feeling of mystery away, although if there was one thing positive about the story is that it kind of makes you think about the values of life and death.

It was really lewd though so if you are looking into that and like Chika this will be great. Chika has the most scenes there. I liked Akiko's and Haruka's designs more, so that was a tad disappointing for me.

Now I guess I'll change rhythms a bit and start Astraythem on the side. What's the general purpose of this check anyways? Anti-stupid measures or something?

>>10587530
Hopefully nobody in this thread needs to "wait" for translations anyways.

>>10587610
I think that game isn't getting a translation. He's probably mentioning his download progress.

>>10587633
No, I've seen it thrown around jokingly in VNTS and that's probably how it will stay because I don't think that kind of stema would work on a decent translator anyways.

http://archive.foolz.us/jp/thread/10075222/#10079366

end sleep's trial is out. Anyone tried it yet?

>>10587633
No its totally being translated. Hypothetically, it is at 99%.

>>10587689
I finished it already, as it really short, around 2 hrs. I cant say much about story, its too short. Vn starts with strange roleplay game as work in mansion, then (expected, huh) murder mystery story.

Still reading Itazurakko. Upcoming exams and family's winter holidays have kept sure that I haven't really been able to play in privacy, otherwise I would have finished this a long time ago. I can really agree with EGS' rather low score and bug complaints. After enabling full screen I haven't been able to turn it off (even from the launcher) and the game crashes when trying to alt + tab out in addition to other performance problems I mentioned earlier, though I'm personally enjoying it simply because the twins are so damn adorable.

>>10587610
>What's the general purpose of this check anyways?
Seems they're still scared to death of some illiterate foreigner skipping to H-scenes and spinning up another Rapelay controversy.

>>10587748
Did we at least meet all the characters? I have actually been anticipating this one but I have a rule of not playing trials.

Started Nega0.
I actually tried it when it was released but found it a step back from Yumina and dropped it but seem like the story actually gets pretty good after a while.
Also I had forgotten how amazing the opening is, the lyrics are something

>>10587762
but I can barely read japanese and can read that and type it

then again, my aforementioned bad knowledge of japanese is still enough to play most video games and eroge due to their low standards of language in most media

and then you go online or talk to someone in person and have no idea what they're saying

What did people think of the trial of Madou Koukaku?

>>10587782
Daiteikoku level flop incoming

>>10587792
That's a shame. I haven't played a good gameplay VN in a while.

>>10587764
Yes, all chars revealed in homepage are appearing. Also it feels like story turns out to be some magic/mystery. I too don't like this kind of story much (murder/dark), but may be give it try when it will be released.

what about sengoku rance?

>>10587792
Why would you say that? I haven't played the trial but it isn't it too early to write it off?

I Just finished Aeka's route on Yume Miru Kusuri.

I thought it was cute. I just about shit myself when Kouhei jumped to the rescue in a cunning and stylish way on the roof I was trying to go more for Nekoneko route though.

I have a problem with VN's though, After I finish a route I really like, I can't do any other route because then I feel like I'm cheating on my first play through girl. ;_;

>>10588255
I often get that feeling too. just read something else for a while and then do another route and it should diminish.

>>10588342
>>10588255
In most games, as long as there isn't an important true route, I just pick my favorite and read her route exclusively.

>>10588459
Same. It's rare that I like more than one girl anyway.

>>10588459
I tend to base my decisions on how I would handle the situation normally in a real setting, going for the cute girls, but also placing morals/values ahead of attractiveness of the girls. Hence why I stood up for Aeka, though I guess she is sort of the important true route you were talking about.

Would prefer a tighter knit interaction with fellow members but still on the first route. So far the fighting scene isn't really highly excitable (no silly infinite power-up yet) however they are snappy.

>>10587510
That's from Kachou Fuugetsu right? The opening was the only good part of that game.

>>10588661
That's fron Hanafubuki, Kachou Fuugetsu was a spin-off of it
http://vndb.org/v1369

>>10587950
I'm frustrated by the lack of a Rance Quest translation.

What's your favorite visual novel, jaypee?

I want to finish Eustia, but I cannot into moonrunes yet.

I didn't go for Fione

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvKwpBYBeEs

This looks really goddamn cute.

>>10589465
I should also note that I'm waiting for Majikoi and Iroseka. Not being able to read Japanese is suffering.

I finally finished reading Alternative. I cried a bit, damn great ride. I just wish there were more battles.

>>10589485
>>10589465
stop crying faggots

>>10589536
*faggot
I'm sorry that I wanted to read a visual novel spergmeister.

>>10589551
What you should be sorry about is not that you wanted to play said titles, but that you choose to publicly complain about the fact that you can't.

>>10589562
Please stop here before it becomes a long, stupid argument about why it's ok/not ok to mention the ignorance of Japanese.

>>10589562
Lamenting the fact that I cannot continue to play isn't a fault. Stop sperging out.

>>10589569
It's not okay to whine about how much your life sucks because you can't read Japanese.

I'm glad we were able to reach this conclusion together.

Now this was just depressing from start to finish. What's the point of a corny setting without some corny happy endings? Instead it's just nonstop misery without any kind of cathartic elements. Yeah fuck you too eroge devs.

How do I obtain School Days without getting a virus/losing my Autismbux?

>>10589571
>Lamenting the fact that I cannot continue to play isn't a fault.
Whining about dumb shit that is your own fault is, actually, a fault. Deal with it.

>>10589602
That's the point. You got mad and sad.

>>10589622
HAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

>>10589616
>Whining
You like to blow shit way out of proportion, don't you spergiknight? Not being able to actually read a game that mostly consists of reading is a problem. Not one of the developers, but I never blamed it on them, nor did I ever 'whine' about it.

>>10589631
But I don't want a virus.

>>10587792
Not really, only the RTS part is shit.

http://vndb.org/p42
Nitro+has so many interesting sounding VNs that will never be translated.
I really need to learn moon.

>>10589792
>June 28
Wow, there is a release date for 君と彼女と彼女の恋。

Anyone else excited? This will be the first full Nitro+ game since Axanael (which I never finished)

>>10589813
Too bad it's probably unpirateable.

99.8% complete. Everything's going smoothly.

>>10589821
Yea, maybe for the first few hours. That's about how long it takes Chinese fans to work around anti-piracy measures.

>>10589821
Axanael was pirateable. But we'll see how the USB thing works out.

>>10589825
It's a USB memory stick. It probably acts as a hardware dongle.

I doubt if it can even be run from a HDD.
It's most likely meant to be run directly from the stick.

>>10589792
http://vndb.org/v45
This looks really fun.

>>10589851
Chinese have never had problems getting around identical AP schemes for other shit before.

>>10589864
They need the actual usb stick for that, I doubt anyone would buy and supply the game just so they can crack it.

i got a job and have been out of the scene for about a year

anything good been translated to english? i like the rpg type games such as rance and unerwaterrayramano, or anything with gameplay + ero

thanks for the help

>>10589833
How was Axanael anyways?

>>10589889
Nitro+'s done better, let's just leave it at that.

>>10589910
I'd rather not just leave it at that.
Please, tell me more.

>>10589898
They have done in the past. It's a challenge for them, often they don't even release the patches, and if they do it's only to their tight knit communities.

>>10589632
>You like to blow shit way out of proportion, don't you spergiknight?
No, that's you, flaming and getting mad that people called you out.

>>10589551
If you want to read it, then learn Japanese, don't come here complaining that it will never be translated. Translations of foreign material you want to read into your mother tongue are not a god given right, nor something you should expect.

>>10589926
Hopefully it won't be too hard to crack seeing as it would be disappointing for it to be released and yet it never shows up or never has a crack.

>>10589925
Good style, OST and general premise that are spoiled by many flaws. The Russian Roulette gimmick is nice, but only affects the very first route you play, and after that, it's the usual "Choose your route" stuff. The characters are a mixed bag, with some of them simply impossible to bear even though you have to follow them to get an ending. The plot also gets much less exciting when you realize that people come back from the dead left and right. If you're going to build your story on 命かけたギャンブル, what's the point if no one ever dies?

At least Noko and Sakura are glorious.

>>10589926
>and if they do it's only to their tight knit communities

Fucking Otomedream.

Even though I'm going through it really slowly, Hapymaher is pretty good. I really like the cgs for some of the scenes like this one.

>>10590544
God I hate Otomedream. And quite a few things I want are only uploaded there, at least at the moment. If it wasn't for whoever uploads new PSP releases on nyaa and that otome uploader on anime-sharing forums, I'd never play anything. It feels weird since I'm used to finding practically everything in one click on Perfect Dark.

I wish someone hacked Otomedream and posted their whole post database with links and everything.

>>10589665
Yeah and the latest Eushully games sure are known for their great stories and writing, right?

Since when was this thread about people whining for translation patches? There is a thread in /vg/ and a weekly thread in /jp/ just for that you know

>>10590860
Hey, it's not as if they've never made a game with a decent story.

>>10590862
I've realized that there seems to be a good few (lurkers?) here that belong to /vg/ and every other time they post the thread derails.

>>10590860
Who's in charge of writing for Eushully games anyway?

>>10590860
That reminds me. I tried Arterial and Kamidori and I really just didn't like them. The gameplay was pretty much the only thing I enjoyed. Are any of their other games worth playing if I disliked those two? More specifically the Ikusa Megami series since I've heard it mentioned quite a few times.

>>10590902
Though I don't know how other people think of it, I find the Ikusa Megami series the reverse. The gameplay isn't that great but the writing is, at the very least, a step above what their other games are like.

>>10590902
The Ikusa Megami series is good, start with Zero.
Be adviced though that the series kind of start as a bland fantasy, personally first time I did Zero I dropped it during the first chapter.
I then picked it up again after hearing tons of people praise it and I wasn't disappointed, it gets MUCH better and far more interesting after a while

>>10590894
They keep changing writers every game.
The ones writing for Madou Koukaku are the subwriters in Arterial.

>>10590902
IM Zero has awesome story, it's epic. Verita is also pretty good but not as good of a story as IM Zero. Verita has way better gameplay though.

IM2's story is pretty interesting but NTR is a major plot point and the gameplay is dated.
IM1 is just plain shit. There's really no reason to play it. It also has unavoidable NTR.
I suggest not reading IM1 & 2 and just wait for the upcoming remake. It's the next game after Madou Koukaku.

>>10590929
While I like the sounds of a remake since I never bothered going past Veritas due to how outdated 1 and 2 is, unavoidable NTR doesn't sound nice.

>>10590908
Story is always more important for me in VNs anyway. For example, I'd trudge through bad gameplay for a good story, but I wouldn't trudge through a bad story for good gameplay.
>>10590911
>>10590929
Thanks, I'll give it a shot. I guess I'll read Zero, then Verita, then wait for the remake of 1 and 2 unless I can't endure the wait for some unforeseeable reason.

>>10590948
You might consider going through genrin and genrin2 before going into Verita as well. Verita has 2 main characters and the genrin games will give you Louie's background.

>>10590929
What sort of NTR are we talking about?

>>10590948
You should also read Eien no Ikusahime in between Zero and Verita or you'll be lost as to who Liouie and his related characters are

>>10590953
Main heroines getting kidnapped and impregnated by the main villain.

>>10590956
>>10590957
Okay. Looks like I'm in for a pretty long read. Not that I have anything better to do now that I finally cleared my backlog.

>>10590964
I hope that doesn't persist into the remake or at least only in the form of a bad end.

I'm fine with NTR in my doujins but it doesn't sit well with me in actual stories that I like.

>>10590976
Eien no Ikusahime basically contains the novelized versions of (Zero), Genrin and Genrin 2, so you don't need to go through all three, either play the games or read the novels.
Personally I was fine with Genrin and liked Genrin 2 a lot, but it has aged like fuck so if you're not into archaic gameplay systems you might find it easier to just read the canon story and get on with it.

>>10590977
Considering the new Sully is a loli, I don't think they will have her get kidnapped and impregnated

>>10590977
>I'm fine with NTR in my doujins but it doesn't sit well with me in actual stories that I like.
I feel the same way. Hell I fap to NTR nukige all the time but for some reason I don't like it in normal VNs, even as just an avoidable bad end it makes me feel kind of iffy. Although I could say the same for a majority of my fetishes. Maybe because they all give me that guilty/shitty/"you're a horrible person" feeling after I cum and I don't really want to mix that with things other than pure masturbation fodder.

How did IM0 and IMV sell?

>>10591009
It saved Eushully from bankruptcy.

what's with the obsession with sales numbers lately anyways

Ekria alone made VERITA for me. Her devotion to Celica was really something. What happened to her in IM2 was probably the first time I actually felt bad about NTR/rape in any eroge.

>>10591022
Sparked by the news going on about the eroge industry dying a bit back I suppose.

>>10591052
I don't want to play IM2 anymore.

>>10591058
I never wanted to play it anyway.

Fuck NTR.

>>10591052
It doesn't have to happen to her in IM2 you know.
Just let Sully takes it, her before-Verita character was pretty bland anyways

>>10591057
And by "the news going on about the eroge industry dying" you mean "some stuff said by the minori president in an interview."

>>10591069
Pretty much.

>>10591069
Yes!

>>10591052
Seeing her go from badass villain in Genrin 2 to moemoe maid was actually kinda disappointing for me instead

>>10591075
I loved that progression personally she had some good scenes in IM2, I liked that one in the town with the ghosts where she sees her dead sister

Thinking about it, story and writing-wise IM2 was actually really solid, best with IM0

>>10591075
I really liked it when she was a tsundere in the early parts of Verita. It's a shame she didn't keep that personality.

The art in Bokusora is so weird. The main heroine has a pretty cute lisp though.

>>10592907
Talk about things that needed a joke drama CD. Add Reinhart sexually harassing Ren and it's perfect.

How many VN's have you read completely (as in al routes)?

>>10593275
Fifteen and a half.

>>10593275
Why do you even care please go away.

has anyone played this: http://vndb.org/v579
If yes, any impressions?

>>10591064
"one cannot truly appreciate eroge unless he becomes at peace with NTR" - Fernando Henrique Cardoso

>>10593374
No, but I would if I could read and understand Japanese

>>10593498
He sounds like a fag. And that expression is bullshit.

>>10593537

Please don't slander the dead.

>>10593502

You again? Kshhkshh

>>10590977
>>10591058
>>10591064
>>10593537

Why don't you guys stick to pure love high school comedies if you're that adamant against ever encountering something unpleasant?

Infidelity has existed since time immemorial. The idea that writers have to go out of their way to avoid such themes that are fundamental to the human condition just so readers don't feel "sad" is ridiculous.

>>10593613
>The idea that writers have to go out of their way to avoid such themes that are fundamental to the human condition just so readers don't feel "sad" is ridiculous.
More like they go out of their way to include this theme because it has become a pitifully widespread and dominating fetish

>>10593613
NTR is just a fetish pandering to masochists. There is a reason elf almost went under when they included NTR in kakyuusei.

>>10593627

There is NTR in Kakyuusei? I've only heard that the main heroine isn't a virgin.

>>10593627
NTR fetish is more like for both S and M, some of them self instert as the "villain".
But both of them are just gay, technically. They got a boner from dominating or being-dominated-by another dude. lol

>>10593691
Is it less gay or more gay to insert as the girl?
Not that I do that of course. Purely hypothetical you know.

>>10593613
It's a shitty normalfag fetish included as fap fodder and not a indispensable plot device. It's also the norm for the creator to adapt to the preferences of the consumer. That's how business is made.

Fortunately, the games nowadays are more clearly split between vanilla and ones explicitly made for NTR fetishists. The only exception are games with emphasis on gameplay which sell regardless of the content.

>mfw /jp/ is so beta they can't stand seeing "their" girl get fucked by another man.

>>10594015
people like that would do well not to come to /jp/

>>10594015
hu u qot m8

Besides it's fucking beta instead to get turned on by someone stealing "your" girl fucked by another man. If you self-insert as someone stealing girls from others you might want to go defend Netori instead. Come up with something better next time.

>>10593177
I like the art. It's pretty cute.

>>10594167
Japs hate it apparently. I like the voices and I will give it a shot because March might be the worst month for games I have ever experienced. It is from a new company too, I don't know who is writing it though.

>>10594415
They have shit taste, that's nothing new. I was drawn to it because of the art. It's not as generic as the shit that gets put out every month and it has a bit of personality. Really love the coloring. The girls are adorable. The art's the main reason I picked it up.

>>10594533
>>vg

>>10594533
If you play a game for the art you're gonna have a bad time.

>>10589823
Wait, this is getting translated? link please.

>>10594876
I know that and I don't do it that often. The plot's generic from what I've read of the trial, so I'm not expecting much for it. I like a few of the girls though.

>>10593374
Looks like a typical rape nukige. The art is nice though.

What do?

>>10595020
自殺する

>>10595020
inside because it won't get pregnant anyway and you make less mess with is good for her.

>>10595020
Genuflect

>>10595020

Has anyone ever chose 外の出す? I never did except it was plot relevant.

>>10595061
Is it ever plot relevant?

>>10595071
I wouldn't know, since I've never made that choice.

>>10595061
I always choose 外の出す. It's always fun to cover people in white goo.

>>10595071

I'm actually reading a rare example at the moment. In 若妻 you'll get killed for it

Just finished Katawa Shoujo, effectively springboarding me into another VN...or ten.

Wanko to Kurasou
Otoboku
Captive Market
The Sagara Family
Sono Hanabira Ni Kuchizuke Wo
Hoshizora no Memoria
Period
Saya no Uts
Slave Witch April
Yuukuri Panic Escalation

I haven't started any of them. Mainly because I have no idea where to start. Some were oft-mentioned here and on /a/, others are due to lolicon and other miscellaneous interests. I'd suggest a rolling but that seems to be frowned upon here.

>>10595095
>>/vg/

They have a general full of people asking the same questions as you. They have perfected the answers.

Pardon me, if you are an elaborate troll

>>10595102
Why the heck is there a VN general here then?

>>10595095

If you look for something more serious, read Saya no Uta, if you want Harem shenanigans, read HoshiMemo, delete the rest. And please tone your /a/ness down.

>>10595107
Here we discuss un-translated generally, and there they discuss translated. Also the culture is very different between us. If you liked Cripple Girls you will probably like it there.

>>10595107
Because VNs in english are but a small fragment of the whole market. Plus, /vg/ was made in part to take the Katawa Shoujo and OELVNs out of all the other boards. It's not really trying to force you out, but if you want to discuss English only then over there you'll actually have more people to talk with. Nobody wants to discuss KS anymore here, and they even have a general dedicated for it over at /vg/. And the translated ones have mostly been discussed to death too.

>>10595127
Well I just want a recommendation on what to read first. I can decide on my own after that. Preferably something light in both content and length. Saya no Uta is there due to curiosity and inevitability.

>>10595135
>>>/vg/
They have a lot of useful materials for your circumstance, most people here have little to no idea what is going on in the english only scene.

>>10595159
In short, the people here can read Japanese. No easy task, but off I go then.

>>10595135
Period is probably the one that best fits the bill of the ones you mentioned. Hoshimemo is better but it's pretty long. A bunch of those are nukige in case you weren't aware.

>>10595188
/vg/ hardly know the difference between Nukige and Eroge.

>>10595188
>>10595195
>nukige

I just looked up that term via Google, which in turn lead me to VNDB. Huh, so basically games with that label are the near polar opposite of what I just read. And about four of my above listed fall into that category.

...is there a review site for VNs by any chance?

>>10595221
Yep, in Japanese.

>>10595221
Erogamescape. Unfortunately you can't read it.

>>10595225
>>10595227

Bah, I'll just fire all the titles in VNDB and start with the shortest one. Still, thanks for the help.

Is 俺たちに翼はない ―――under the innocent sky, any good? It seems a bit pretentious but I like the art, and it's had a lot of releases.

>>10595236

I will save you the trouble. It's Saya no Uta. Go read it. It's great.

>>10595246
Totally pretentious. Read one of the more standard classics like Subarashiki Hibi.

>>10595246
Yes. Watarai is the best heroine ever.
Shame she got paired up with the worst protagonist.

>>10595246
Moogy loves it, so what do you think?

>>10595257
Moogy likes everything as long as it's pretentious enough.

Which capsule?

Which capsule?

>>10595303
blue

>>10595303
All of them at once.

Just started playing and man...I really hate it when they put ALL the text like this. I'm not exactly a 'master' of Japanese yet and it's really a pain to read. Even the 'narrative' text box is like this.

>>10595374
You mean, vertical? You'd best be getting used to it.

>>10595374
2nd pic.

At least production values are really high.

>>10595374
I'm used to it from manga luckily.

>>10595374
Couldn't you just use a text hooker in this case to get the text horizontally oriented? Though I imagine reading solely from a text hooker would be a major pain.

>>10595428
That's actually not a bad idea. I might do this if it turns out to be a good game and I actually play through the entire thing.

>>10595439
You could just learn to read properly too.

>>10595374
>>10595383
So, what VN is this?

>>10595254
Takashi is moe as fuck you fool

>>10595618
Shiro no Pikapika Ohoshi-sama.

>>10595085
Mind telling me the whole title of that game?

These two are so damn cute I can't stand it.

Reiji, you'd better tap that, so help me God.

...Meanwhile, partway into Chapter 4 and not onto the present-day Hitogata Villaga investigation yet, I'm fairly convinced that I've figured out who the killer is, and what's going on with Satsuki's mysterious death - easily explained if you assume that that wasn't Satsuki and then look for evidence to support it.

Of course I would be quite pleased if I turn out to be totally wrong and the game pulls out something I never, ever saw coming, like at the end of the first game.

I save, choose inside, read until the end of the scene, load savepoint and choose outside.
I don’t want to miss things.

>>10596618
I'm at chapter 5 and that's my suspicion too, on the culprit I'd have to say Nanako coupled with Naori, who is somewhere unknown.
however by now I'm only praying that Yuu doesn't get killed, kns is terrible with so many girls I like dropping like flies. Especially Guriko, that hurt.

>>10596618
Would you mind me asking what VN this is? I really like the artwork.

>>10596636
Those two were near the top of my list of suspects, along with Karen (since we know she's a crazy brocon and this is InnoGrey, where incest drives people to murderous PARANOIA all the time). Naori being kept out of the picture for so long is definitely suspicious; there's some big reveal related to him coming up, I suspect.

My theory before the full game even came out was that Satsuki faked her death in order to escape the village and whatever ominous fate was in store for her, and is now living as Fuyumi in Tokyo, but each new piece of information about the past seems to point to there having been - and seriously, don't read this if you'd rather finish the game and be surprised, because I'm pretty sure I got it right - twins - Satsuki, and Ayako, the miko - who is also the killer. A looottttt of the more ambiguous scenes in the past arc seem to point right to this.

>>10596657
It's Kara no Shoujo 2.

Excellent game (and yes, the art is really gorgeous - you should see the CGs), but not recommended if you can't handle gore, detective parts that require you to use your brain, or some heartbreakingly sad scenes.

>>10596636
I also hold out the same hope as you. She was so cute in the postwar scenes in her Ryogi Shiki getup.

>>10596663
So it pulls some interesting twists then? Good to know, but I better not read them, since it's keeping me quite interested.

>>10596668
Definitely one of the highlights of the game is the art and the sprite changes because timeskips and seeing them mature. Even slight changes add a ton to the game.

Still no imouto hscene. ;_;

>>10596682
Innocent grey stands on incest=life ruining event.

>>10596682
You should have seen the rage amongst Japanese and Chinese readers against Masaki because of the implication that Yukari had developed feelings for him.

Yukari is married to her insects anyway.

>>10596675
Yeah, it's most definitely worth avoiding spoilers and experiencing it all for yourself.

Also, you are now browsing /takoyaki/: Anachronistic Humor and Kanji Puns General.

>>10596682
But there was. If you count Fumiya's imouto.

>>10596711
I love the takoyaki guy in this game, he's more insane than in previous entries.

>>10595095
Period is boooooooriiiiiiing but maybe worth it for the pretty art.

Wakno is cute and fun but jam-packed with loli borderline-furry ero.

HoshiMemo's good.

SonoHana and Escalation are good for lesbian romance and drama. (The latter one gets unexpectedly dark and twisted as it goes, though, so be warned.)

The rest I've never read and don't care to.

>>10595798

若妻万華鏡

>>10596675
There are some cool twists, but compared to the first game I think they pale in comparison. Either way great game.

Just finished 11eyes. Pretty decent chuuni overall, I really liked the art, the fights and the story which was solid.
Music was decent too.
Pacing though, was a bit off. Too many SoL scenes between all the fights. The story was kinda hammered in at the end. There was a bit of a mystery about everything going on with a lot of subtle hints, but everything was explained away in a silly way with parallel worlds.
Characters were largely forgettable. Most impressionable ones I found were a dead guy and the last boss.
I should be feeling a bit annoyed at the forced happy ending, but I'm ultimately feeling really crap about what happened to Lisette.

Starting the FD now, I hear it has a happy ending for her.

>>10597632

I really liked the fight scenes in 11eyes, but I wasn't a big fan of the plot. I agree with you on the pacing, I felt it was particularly bad near (but not quite) the end where it just felt like it was dragging on forever.

I haven't played the fandisc, so I'm interested in hearing what you think of it when you are done.

>>10597047
Thank you.

Kotori's route was lame.

>>10597736
Should have elaborated a bit more; the backstory and worldbuilding were rather good, particularly regarding Verad, Liselotte, and the Black knights. The plot itself had a few convenient twists.

And sure I'll post my thoughts, but since I have little time right now, it'll be a while.

Wow, Nega0 is pretty amazing starting from the second route, I love that kind of meta loop.
Not that the first route was bad, I expected a bakage or something similar but it's actually quite serious all the way through.

Writing is very similar to StarTRain with better pacing and an actual plot that isn't just teenage drama forever so it's quite a hit for me so far.
Can't believe I dropped it once, I must have been sick

I'm just wondering, was the little story included in the art book that came with the first press release of Gahkthun ever scanned and uploaded anywhere?

>>10593565
fhc is still alive, he logs on hongfire sometimes.

Finished one route - actually the background setup wasn't too bad and probably added a little more challenge to the main characters since the only diversion was too obvious, ugh. We are talking about a secretive organisation after all, piling up a few more wouldn't hurt. Looking at the recollection menu, this VN suffers from the too many heroines problem, too loose from plot. Probably going going skip a few bit of other routes just to see if there is a grand/true route. Would give this a borderline pass grade so far.

Anyone read Kimi to Boku to Eden no Ringo?
I’m hoping it’s as enjoyable as ‘trap protagonist filling in for his cousin in an all girls school’ sounds.

>>10598516
It was fucking terrible. Depending on one of your early choices, one of the heroines don't show up at all. This meant that the entire common route feels full of holes because it has to work whether or not that heroine exists or not.

>>10598549
>Depending on one of your early choices, one of the heroines don't show up at all.
Wait what, do you mean that 'unlockable route'?

>>10598549
That sounds like those re-releases where the new heroines have their entire existences erased if you don't pick their choices.

Except in this case it's not a re-release so it doesn't get that excuse.

>>10598549
Despite how good it is, hello world was terrible in this
>choose Chieri every time you can
>common route filled with fun and Chieri
>any other heroine
>existence erased save for a couple of events and some developments in the common route just make no sense at all

>>10598595
>>10598549
Why would devs do that?
It doesn’t make sense since it is more work anyway.

I really dig the chemistry between Tomoyuki and Reiji, the guy really needed a bro/someone to abuse with more presence throughout the game than Shuugo in the original.

Finished Hapymaher after getting all depressed by Bokuten. So much text that goes fucking nowhere but it was a good story and good stories are pretty rare so I like this. Alice was love.All the people who wanted to read this for Maia would be rather disappointed I guess.

>>10598516
Yes. I didn't really like it. At least the OP was good.

>>10598830
I miss Uozumi, but their interaction makes up for it.

>>10598945
I finished it just today as well with the same thoughts where the fuck is my Maia route?

>>10596696
You should have seen my rage, that fuck better not get his hands on Yukari in KnS 3 or else.

>>10600351
Can't really do a whole lot with a character like this. A route for her would be just an extended bad end anyway.

>>10600484
Well, who would you rather Yukari get with, then? Tokisaka incest is never going to happen (which is fine by me).

Although I suppose there was a valid option in Kohane.

>>10600667
Maybe the whole series is just one LONG Yukari route.

>>10600667
If there is no yukari-reiji incest I'd rather have her alone than with other men.

>>10598945
>>10600585
That's pretty sad to hear, as the only girl I was really looking forward too was Maia. Alice can be cute, but of the heroines I think I like her the least. Well, I can hold out hope for a fandisc.

>>10598945
>>10600351
The text being so fucking redundant really killed my interest for it, this is one of these time when a good story/setting is killed by weak writing.

I'm still trudging though it slowly but really the only time the game has my interest is when Maia appears.

>>10598549
Things like that kinda ticks me off a bit too
Though some of them execute it properly, like waremete. Thanks for the warning though, was planning to do that VN sometime

>>10600351
Wait a minute, according to seiga, there's a Maia route. Then again, I just started reading it. Maybe I'm hoping too much for a proper route

>>10600897
>Wait a minute, according to seiga, there's a Maia route.
It's just a bad end with an additional H-scene. That's basically what her character represents, a bad end dangling in front of the protag all the time.

>>10600897
I haven't read it yet myself, but I heard it was really short, not full length like a proper route.

>>10600925
A designated bad end girl?
That’s kind of cold.

>>10600925
>>10600925
I can see your interpretation of that, but I actually really disagree. I feel like the entire story is based around existentialist views, since they even reference Kafka at a few points, and the whole story seems to want to present the idea of, is a life lived in a dream worth living. I assume in every route he picks except Maia's his ultimate answer is no, but that's merely a point of view. Most all character development is done in dream areas, yet it's not like you can just sweep it away and say "it was a dream so it's not important." Even if ultimately he chooses to live with them in reality, the dream experience is still a deep part of his own existence, and incredibly important. So if in the end choosing to pick a life in a dream, isn't necessarily any worse than picking the choice of reality. At least that's the way I've been interpreting it, though particularly Alice's true route may shed some more light on the mystery of the setting.

>>10600960
>So if in the end choosing to pick a life in a dream, isn't necessarily any worse than picking the choice of reality.
Escape from harsh reality is never depicted in a positive light in these kind of stories. In Tooru's case it means giving up on life and loosing to his feelings of regret so that he can have fun with his dead imouto in his head. Not being able to overcome his weakness means a dead end in terms of character development and is one of the most classic bad end scenarios.
Not much room for different interpretation, really.

I know that when considering the context, Maia not having a proper route makes perfect sense because she's long dead but it's just a huge tease to have arguably the best girl in the story and yet no route for her.

To be fair, I'm not sure if even a FD can fix things in that area. They'd basically need to retcon the setting for Maia to go anywhere.

So Hapymehr is "Tulpa the eroge"?
I guess I'll go read it.

>>10601030
>>10601049
Again I can see your point, but the strength or weakness, whichever way you'd want to view it, of this kind of setting that uses the ideas of dream and reality, is it is essentially bottomless. This could be seen in our own reality even, as ultimately there is no proof that you aren't merely dreaming right now, but again that argument is bottomless and can never end, so is pointless to get into.

But moving to the setting of the story then, from chapter 5 onwards, they can't tell if they are in a dream or reality anymore. Even Tooru's reality checks fails, which can raise the question, has he ever been in reality even once through the entire setting of the story? Again I'm talking from the perspective of not having seen Alice's route so I know there could be new evidence for different views, but again because of the nature of the story it seems as if you can't ever really say for sure that this route is something he is now with forever. They talk about the setting in terms of a play many times, with the characters as mere actors, and everything being done for the sake of the unseen audience, I interpreted that as in a way breaking the fourth wall, where the reader is the unseen audience. Every time you hit the button to begin, you've reset the world and are forcing them through hardships again, taking away what Tooru has gained, and putting him back to a state where he has nothing but regret. Even if Alice's route explains this better however, you could still look at it as everything done is merely again them fulfilling their roles of actors, as if characters in a dream, going through their motions without really understanding. The only true end is when you choose to not hit start another time, and have left Tooru in that last route. Which is why I was saving Maia for last.

>>10601070
It's not specifically the question of choosing dream or reality that makes it a bad end. It's him choosing Maia, that's basically admitting defeat and the game obviously presents it as such. And yeah, you should just finish Alice's route because it's about waking up.

>>10601138
Well until I read it myself I can't say anything about either of their routes to possibly see it in any kind of different light than what you're presenting. Though I still plan to do Saki before Alice or Maia, so it'll be awhile before I'm actually done, as I read rather slowly.

http://milktub.exblog.jp/19649043/
bamboo super mad at canadians and other industry ramblings

>>10601218
tl;dr
Summarise please

>>10601226
I just did, read the thing if you want details, it takes a minute at most

>>10601218
>僕天を「鬱ゲー」とか言ってる人いますが違います。

Shut the fuck up bamboo.

>>10601244
Oh wow, that's pretty funny. How the fuck isn't it?

>>10601218
Is he talking about nyaa? or animesharing?

>>10601218
"Seriously die.
Choke on maple syrup. I wish I had been beaten to death with a frozen salmon."

I admit I giggled. Sorry I can't read Japanese, I'm making do with google.

>とか言ってくるとホントひねり殺したくなりますね。
>死ねマジで。
>メープルシロップで窒息しろ。
>凍ったサーモンで撲殺されればいいのに。

Jesus Christ, is this guy known for outburts like this?

>>10601263
Never seen him so mad before, really, so it's a bit funny for me.

>>10601272
If he hate whitey so much why does he imitate their music?
Checkmate bamboomilk-san

>クソ毛唐

Is my personal favorite.

Blog stopped loading.
Good job, maple shitting foreigners, you crashed his site.

I bet he's talking about nyaa.
He's really pissed that download count is 3 times larger than actual units sold.
I don't know any other site that has the DL count listed.
It has 13021 DLs on nyaa so I guess the newest game only shipped 4k copies.

>>10601321
I'm conflicted, I don't know if to feel sorry for the man or what. He really was trying to move stuff for overseas sales and now he's like fuck it. But then his outburst is just hilarious. Not like that matters much anyways since the prime uploaders are usually Chinese buyers or Japanese people uploading through Share or PD and it was about a game in Japanese only at the moment.

Then again to be honest I don't really know the modus operandi of the torrents at nyaa.

>>10601321

They will translate the game most likely anyway, so he can count on at least another 4k copies.

Though he makes the same mistake like everyone who "suffers" from piracy, they take it for granted that every illegal download is one copy less sold, which is simply wrong.

>>10601347
The thing is that the translation itself also costs money, so if the translation ends up costing more than it makes back, you’d burn out.

But that’s a pretty rude outburst. I hope no Canadians choked on maple syrup after reading it.

>>10601345

Obviously, most seeders/loaders are Japanese, with a few Chinese and Americans in between. Really, if he must curse pirates, he should start in front of his own doorstep.

>俺アメリカ人じゃないしアメリカの法律関係ないから削除申請応じない

>>10601366
I guess attacking Canada is safer than domestic terrorism in Japan or invading China and America though.

Someone better mirror the whole blog post, I bet it's going to disappear soon.

>>10601380
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=4Tds4y7K
Done.

>>10601371
Isn't nyaa hosted in Sweden?

>>10601282
Wow, that's hilarious.

I bought Edelweiss from MG, and Kira Kira TWICE, plus was looking forward to the English release of Chou Dengeki Stryker. Fuck that now, though. Overdrive will get not another yen out of this hairy barbarian.

If it is indeed nyaa, I'm surprised they didn't comply. I know they used to remove stuff if asked.
I remember downloading 昏き祟りの森で from nyaa and it disappearing shortly afterwards.

>>10601410
Yes.

>>10600755
I will never understand people like you.

>>10601413
Did you read the article or are you just making up things in your own head? He didn't insult foreigners in general, just that one who didn't take down the torrent of his game

>>10601218
>steamみたいな仕組みが作れればPCやタブレットでも
>気軽にプレイできてDRMもアカウント紐付だから問題はあるにせよ
>今より色々いい方向に行くような気がするんですけどね。
That would be interesting.

>>10601417
Maybe he asked the Mangagamer translators to write them an English letter, if you know what I mean.

>>10601423
There‘s plenty of other ways to insult him without using racial slurs and wishing he would die in nationally stereotypic manners though.

Hah, a followup.

http://milktub.exblog.jp/19651709/

Haha what funny Japanese.

Is this guy seriously getting mad over people pirating his game (especially those who don't have access to reasonable shipping methods)?
Is he new to the internet or what?

So they filed a takedown notice for one of their games, and said site admin told him in no uncertain terms that they don't have to comply because they're Canadians, and he can go fuck himself. He then goes on to use a bunch of Canadian stereotypes to express his frustration. It's not exactly professional, but I don't think it's anything actually serious. Considering he visits both Canada and the US on a fairly regular basis, and founded a company specifically to work in those markets, I seriously doubt his statements have any broader connotation than just being angry at a specific individual.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but to the best of my knowledge animesharing is hosted in Canada? It's hard to find info and they're usually behind cloudflare, but signs point to them being there.

>>10601686
Add in racial slur against whites

>>10601686
He's just pissed his game didn't sell and wanted something to blame for his failure.

Their problem is that they made an utsuge when no one wanted one. They misjudged the market.
The trend nowadays seems to be eromoe.

RIP Overdrive
You will be missed.

>>10601749
But didn’t you read what he wrote? It’s not an utsuge!!

>>10601686
Yeah, they're hosted at iWeb.

>>10601677
I get the impression that piracy has not been nearly as mainstream of a problem in Japan until recently. It's like what we went through ~10 years ago when pc games as a platform basically shit itself before learning to provide customer centered products and services.

>>10601904
I don't doubt that Japanese devs traditionally just swept it under the rug instead of getting all pissy about it, but I'm sure it still existed. Most companies just use it to place the blame on something like >>10601749
It's pretty much the easy/worthless answer to why didn't it sell? Rather than looking at the real reasons like lack of support, wrong target market, bad game, etc.

As for eroge, in general when I do buy them I 'pirate' them anyway, because I only get them shipped in batches quarterly and prefer to leave them sealed unless the special edition has something I really want. I wouldn't be surprised if a sizable portion of fans did that unless they are part of the buy 3 (one to use, one to save, one to support / as backup) mentality.

>>10601218
I guess the USB memory stick confirmed for DRM.

>>10601904
Well it's definitely more public now.
Back then it's just share, PD or hongfire. Piracy exists, but it's hidden from public eyes and unquantifiable.

Compare that to today where we have a very public tracker that specialize in it + the proliferation of eroge ddl sites that pollutes the search result when you google for an eroge title.

>>10602092
And aeru evangelising about how awesome her repack site is

>>10602104
Fuck did you have to remind me? That's probably the worst part of it all.

>>10602092
Why don't they stop google crawlers from accessing their site?
Doesn't stop other sites linking to it but atleast reduces how flood google is with torrent links for any given eroge title.

>>10602112
Why would they?

>>10602112
Not sure on nyaa, but that would be completely against the policy of most repack sites since they want as many hits as possible.

But really, if I weren’t a NEET I would spend some money on these games.
It feels kind of bad to download games and bluray rips all the time and never buying anything. I should really get a job.
Although I’ll never be able to buy all the films, series and games I’ve enjoyed I think.

>>10602170
I am not NEET and I can probably afford a game a month at Jap prices but I just don't want to pay out the ass for shipping.

>>10602370
Well maybe you should move to Japan then.

>>10602460
The new routes I mean

So anyone tried the psp version yet?
Wondering if the routes are any good, at least at the level of the twins

>>10602460
>>10602465
Well since there's no sex they can't be very good.

>>10602460
Any possessive heroine?

>>10602092
I also almost jumped to the same conclusion, but then realized he might just be talking about company incentives like tokuten, if it's a special reusable USB drive then people are likely to buy it because a digital copy won't give you the nice drive.

Of course, it most likely is DRM.

>>10602540
No, go away.

Did anyone ever get arrested for uploading eroge? All news reports are usually about anime and whatnot. Given how everything gets uploaded quickly on Share which is pretty unsecure these days the eroge companies must be really helpless.

What's a good, not so long and more importantly real easy to read VN?

>>10602649
Pick a moege that has characters that appeal to you.

>>10602460
I'm really proud of myself that I could read the title.

>>10602549
Just say yes every time and make him play it.

How hard is Saya no Uta to read in Japanese?

Just curious.

>>10602927
Easy if you know Japanese. Pretty hard if your Japanese sucks. I hope I was able to help.

Reacher chapter 7 of kara no shoujo 2, fuck you Karen, you were only the third best from the potentially murdered.
Ayumu, as usual, was great, her and Kyoko are my favourites heroine-wise, considering Yukari si off-limits and Toko is Toko.

>>10602999
I think you were really helpful!

>>10602927
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0Agk2IH0ZXhn7dDNmSW1BVFU5dVgyOHkzWjU4b2l2dkE

>A lot of vocabulary that you don't see often. A lot of difficult kanji. Obscure ones will have furigana. Advanced grammar and writing style. Took about 15 hours to finish. It's quite difficult (I will rate it 8/10 in difficulty). Recommend to people who have a strong grasp of the language already.

Am I the only person that wants to stop playing a VN when a mandatory sex scene with x heroine that I don't care about is right in the prologue?

>>10603203
If it's not story-focused or some sort of reverse NTR game, I probably would too.

>>10603203
Are there vns like that?

>>10603221
Out of the blue, Prima Stella and Erect come to mind as examples of forced H scenes.

Generally it bothers me on non-nukige because I'd rather stay 100% pure until the routes start. If it's a character I like, I feel bad for betraying that character. If I don't care about the character, I find it annoying that I'm forced to do such lewd things with that character.

It can lead to route guilt, and Erect is a pretty good example of that.

>>10603247

Good thing that I don't self-insert. Sounds like pure suffering.

>>10603247
But both Prima Stella and Erect are nukiges.

And in Prima Stella's case, the game handled it pretty well. The heroines have a good reason for sleeping with the protag. And the protag doesn't feel like an asshole for doing so.
To be honest I wanted a harem route instead of the shitty character routes the game had.

>>10603273
Prima stella isn't a nukige.

>>10603256
It's probably not that bad for most people. I tend to get a bit obsessed with certain characters for a period of time.

>>10603273
Even so, Erect managed to pull it pretty bad on me with the whole business with Luna and how her and the protagonist seemed to be totally into each other during the common route. I really liked Riel too, which made the fact that I couldn't bring myself to playing through her route even worse.

Sasuga Garuda -san.

>>10603363
I fucking hate mascot characters

this kills the michiru.

>>10603363
I can't get myself to like the artstyle of that game. Something about the lip puts me off.

>>10603368
wasn't it revealed they were all lesbian in the latest drama cd
does that mean all heterosexual is not canon

>>10603381
They really enjoy dicks.

>>10603390
no

>>10603390
We'll probably get doujins once the anime airs.
Waiting warmly for the gangbang doujins.

>>10603401
Damn that sucks especially for those guys who like the girls.

>>10603406
You mean especially for self-inserting people with limited imagination

>>10603412
Whatever, seeing characters you like being exposed to a bunch of fat sadists isn't fun for most people.

>>10603419
Given the popularity of rape doujins, this obviously isn't true.

>>10603422
In contrast to the anime popularity it is.

>>10603381
wait so are they really lesbians?

>>10603433
they're lesbians that happen to really enjoy dicks

>>10603437
That sounds awfully contradictory...

>>10603433
They are all well enough in the college students experimenting range of age.

Amane is the only confirmed lesbian. All the others are merely bicurious

>>10603463
If she likes Yuuji, isn't she bi...?

>>10603469
She only likes him because he is the protagonist. His gender is irrelevant.

Someone make a new thread.

>>10603375
I like the lips personally. So far (almost done) it has been a by the book eroge with some comedy.

>>10603367
He is kinda funny, he is usually the focal point of any scene he is in.

>>10603477
I don't have a good screen shot...

>>10603477
You do it

>>10603477
I want to do it but I don't want to do it at the same time as someone else.

>>10603484
I don't have a good picture.

>>10603490
Well I don't either

I can make one, if nobody else is already making one.

I would be too embarrassed if someone else makes one at the same time and mine doesn't get used.

>>10603498
是非

>>10603501
>>10603493

This is what the delete thread function is for.

>>10603508
I curse the man who invented the archive!

Made it

>>10603509

>>10590977
>>10603401
>>10603422
>doujins

You mean doujinshi.

/a/ please go.

>>10603166
>辻堂さんの純愛ロード
>VN from the same author that wrote Majikoi.

I'm guessing someone from /a/ created this.

>>10603401
NO, FUCK THAT, I want my everyone x Michiru doujin.