/jp/ - Otaku Culture

to learn the language
u need to become the jap

fuck I hate that question. any explanation I give to the people who 'want to learn' just gets a blank expression and the feeling that merely telling people how to do things is just hopeless.

/jp/ - Language Education Culture

> I kind of want
You won't make it with that attitude. I'm sorry.

buy books on kanji and read the fuck out of them learn hiragana and katakana

Find a jap and eat his brain.

Go to /int/ and read the sticky.

There are no shortcuts. Language is a physical skill, and the only way you can get better at physical skills is practice. You can learn Japanese, or any other language, even if you're a stupid high school dropout.

You are just looking for a shortcut. Stop that.

>>10574803

More like a starting point...

how i did it:

learn kana
then learn basic grammar, i used tae kim and random parts of textbooks - piratebay has a compilation
learn the most common kanji, I used kanjidamage anki deck (1700~ kanji)
then learn a bunch of vocab, i'm using a core 6000 anki deck

im only up to that, so I dunno after that

im currently taking a course in highschool... atm im supposed to know all my hiragana including the ones using tenten and matchboxracecarvroomvroom but i kinda forgot SOME of em. we're currently learning verbs and how to construct sentences..

lol i just wanted to make you jealous..

Native here!
Nanika sitsumon aru?
(Do you have any questions?)
Im high school student, but I may be able to understand what you writing.

>>10574785
Try it just one more time, please. For me, anon.

>>10574834
are north american cars appreciated over there? we sure fucking love yours

>>10574835
in terms of importance then

hiragana/katakana
because it'll introduce you to the way they speak

the sound they make instead of l/r
because that's important

grammar, particularly verb conjugation
because it's 50% of the language

finally volcab and kanji
if you did everything else you should be able to progress ata stable linear fashion.

when learning kanji don't learn every possible reading either learn the most used verb or the most used onyomi

>>10574847
Yes.
But now Japan is very short so that people cant buy new cars nevertheless they want it.
Your question reminded me that I watched Transformer yesterday.

Here you go

This is our trend.
Do you know "puzzle and dragons"?

>>10574888
Looks like Puzzle Quest. Look that up, it's pretty fun.

>>10574892
This is Free.
I hope you can read easy Japanese,and you get and play it.
For iphone and android.

>>10574811
You're clearly failing the course yet you want to somehow make us jealous, I see.

Step 1. Learn Hiragana/Katakana
Step 2. Learn Kanji
Step 3. Learn words.
Step 4. Move to Japan
(Step 2 and 3 are interchangeable depending on how you want to do it)
You should do Hira/Kata first, then after that, do whatever the fuck
Go to ajatt for inspiration

>>10574782
Do your reps

>>10574782
you have your answer. delete your thread.

>>10574888
I cannot find this game on the app store. I tried searching for both puzzle & dragons and パズドラ

Use the archive
Search for the daily japanese thread on /a/
Read the OP

Delete this thread.

>>10574892
alex, jeff, or dan... is that you?

>>10575215
Use Google to find it on the app store. You may have to change your store location to US or JP or you can't install or even find it.

archive

I can't figure out all these kanji's.
I'm guessing i have to be in Japanese time zone to play the game?

>>10574853
Not OP but thanks, I'm planning to start learning this summer.

Best way is going to Japan and learning from immersion.
The next best way is taking a class/lessons from a fluent (preferably native) speaker
After that I guess you can pick up a book and try that out.

>>10575335
>設定で修正してください

Yeah.

I live in a small coastal town in California with a decent Japanese population. I'll be taking a Japanese language course at a nearby community college. Hopefully it isn't full of /a/nons.

>>10575335
Yeah it says to fix your clock settings.
I'm not @jp timezone and can play it fine on my iPad, though.

>>10575358
>beginner college course
Why are you doing this to yourself?
It's a horrible waste of money.

>>10574966
lol that's because i joined the class out of curiousness not expecting to be some fucking gross weaboo getting 100% like some of the obvious people in my class.. im actually doing pretty average like most people.. sure i do have an interest in anime but i'm not crazy about it and own merchandise etc etc. and i wanted to make op jealous because i had the option to learn it right in front of me unlike op who has to learn from constant sources as he works his poor soul out.. we have some japanese transfers coming to visit next week and they'll do some japanese stuff because they're japs.. fucking weaboos be jelly?

>>10575378
damn nigga, u insecure as fug

>>10575379
how so?

>>10575378
The things you'll learn within a year on that course, we, that study by ourselves learn within 3 weeks.

Japanese classes are just a waste if you don't put down extra time during your days off. Something like 3 hours+ a day is optimal for getting to VN reading level within a year.

>>10575386
>curiousness<
I'm not actually serious about the course or learning Japanese for that matter. I'm not even going to use the language. I do find it somewhat fun I guess and it'll give me the credits to go to college so I'm just reaping the benefits. If I do however want to visit Japan at least I wont be completely fucking stupid when communicating with a Jap.

>>10575397
Why would we be jealous of you for taking a course you don't actually care about? Would you visit /sci/ and say, "i'm taking calculus in school, guys (don't really care about it though)? u jelly?"

No, you wouldn't, because that would be totally fucking dumb.

>>10575373
My job pays for my classes.

>>10575401
Exactly, I'm taking a course that I don't even care about while OP is anxious to learn the language.

>>10575404

>kind of want to
>anxious

Wow, you're really dumb, aren't you?

>>10575404
And if somebody happens to be learning calculus out of a textbook, do you really think he's going to be "mad jelly" that you are taking a calculus class?

I mean, at least he's not a high-school aged pissant desperate to lord over other people with insignificant achievements.

>>10575413
Upon rereading the thread, I guess OP really is a faggot, though.

>>10575413
Please don't bully me, I wave my dick around with manga in japanese all the time. Okay, not that much, but I always try to convince weeaboos to actually give the japanese language a shot, since it's not hard at all.

I learned following this guide.

>>10575386
It depends on the teacher and program, to be honest. While in most cases it is indeed a huge fucking scam, there are honest teachers out there who will make you bust your ass.

I don't want to bother learning something where there are people who have 18-year head starts over me.

>>10576175
I never follow through on learning because of that last paragraph bearing truth.

If you want to learn Japanese, why don't you go to /int/?
There are a lot of real Japanese posters not pretenders.

>>10576341
You ask a question, and yet answer it with your own image.
I don't get you, man. I just don't. I think we may need some time apart to think things over.

>>10576341

>start the same threads everyday

So...

>>10574782
Buy the book Genki, an integrated course in elementary japanese.
It's the best book to date. Also download the primslur japanese CD.
To memorize hiragana and katakana download kana grinder.
And then after that it's just practice. I'd recommend going to classes, you'll get critique and if there's things that you don't understand you can ask someone who knows.

>>10576384
WHAT

>>10576341
There are too many Japanese posters on /int/

this

>>10576578
Whaaa, why is this? I thought the japanese would go to /jp/ if anything

>>10576666
even nips hate weebs.

>>10576741
this

>>10576666
We get the better Japanese visitors anyway.

>>10576768
I want Chinaman to come back.

>>10576768
What's the story behind this picture?
I'm a Japanese anyway.

>>10576802
He's a namefag on /a/ who got tricked by dirty gaijin scums and ended up posting his photo on the internet.
btw I too am a Japanese.

This is coming from someone who actually became fluent in japanese in 4 years:
-Take a proper japanese course in college. Ignore those saying to just study through books, the internet etc, I'm yet to see someone who even managed to pass JLPT1 with this method, their japanese always have huge flaws.
- While taking the course watch a crapload of animu everyday, this will greatly improve your vocabulary and help with sentence structure etc.
- After you learn a few hundred kanji start playing simple rpgs from around ps1 era. Only look up unknown kanjis after you've seen it many times, otherwise you'll get overwhelmed.

That's it, just keep increasing difficulty over time and you'll be fluent very soon.

>>10577039
>their japanese always have huge flaws

>>10577046
Forgive me, I'm not a native english speaker.

>>10577039
This guy is right.

The people I know who were self taught sound like shit and don't seem to understand shit.

>>10577143
self-teaching here, currently learning how to speak and write each hiragana character then moving to katakana. it's going to take a while but i've been at for a few days and feel like i'm not gonna half ass it.
where could i possibly start heading in the wrong direction that'd make my japanese speaking poor?

>>10576768
I miss Chickenman and his conbini receipt and mom's shoe over his head. Introducing him to Toriningen was fun.

>>10574811
>highschool
No wonder /jp/ is so shitty recently. How much of the anime club at school did you invite?

>>10576768
He looks like a Chinese though.

If you do nothing else, shadow shadow shadow. Try and copy what the people on the anime/podcast/news are saying speed and everything. Getting a sense of cadence and not sounding like a round eye is insanely important. Plus it'll skyrocket your listening comprehension because it forces you to pay attention. You'll suck balls at first, but after a few weeks you'll be able to keep at a natural pace even if you only understand conceptually one word in ten.

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>>10575402
It's still a horrible waste of time.

>>10574811
>im supposed to know all my hiragana
>i kinda forgot SOME of em
>i just wanted to make you jealous
I'm so jealous :<
Tell me how to forget hiragana, Anon