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No.

We've had this discussion about a hundred times in the past month.

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No.
V=Δｘ/Δｔ
Sakuya is the fastest.

Who is the slowest 2hu?

>>10480735
Yuuka.

>>10480735
kaguya cuz she is a neet lol

>>10480696
She's at least faster than Marisa and Remi.

>>10480735
Canonically a turtle.

Yukari would be the fastest, wouldn't she?

>>10480798
Depends whether you consider that "movement".

Can we get some physicists in here?

In terms of pure movement speed Aya is the fastest.

Fuck guys, I only wanted an Aya thread.

>>10480823
Why? We've had too many Aya threads recently.

>>10480830
I'm not so sure, I only saw an Aya thread a few days back

>>10480830
No. There is never enough Aya

>>10480823
You'll have to do better than that.
Everyone knows Aya is the fastest. Ask something new.

>>10480898
Is Aya really the most talented journalist in Gensokyo?

>>10480923
Yes. Everyone already knows that too, though.
Right?

>>10480933
It wouldn't be difficult to kill off the competition.

>>10480945
Not her style, and unnecessary.

Soon.

>>10480923
Her only "competition" is a hikkomori schoolgirl.

She obviously is.

>>10480983
Aren't there other newspapers as well, just ZUN doesn't talk about them?

>>10480983
There are other reporters on the mountain.

>>10480983
An old-fashioned tengu like Aya won't hold a candle in the wind against Hatate as the digital era hits gensokyo.

>>10481002
Goddamn this picture everytime.

What kind of camera does Aya use?

>>10481030
Canon.

>>10481030
Cannon.

Where exactly to the tengu live on Youkai Mountain?
Is it the peak? Wouldn't it be really cold up there?

>>10481012
Please. The wind dances to her tune.

>the digital era hits gensokyo.
As if that would ever happen.

>>10481060
It's happening!

>>10480806
There's no need for physics, just math.

Aya is the fastest as in speed thinking in.
t->0 ∆m/∆t

But Sakuya literally moves during periods of time t=0
Speed is not defined in this situation outsite de math boundary in the application movement=f(time) from where we obtain speed.

Aya is fastest
Sakuya is undefined, technically Sakuya is more close to teleportation than movement.

>>10481087
Is not.
Besides, even if it does, it can't beat traditional newspapers. Not here.

>>10481101
Modern world objects slowly trickle in and they have tech-loving kappas, it's no stretch to think Gensokyo will continue to advance, although at a slow rate.

I hope they'll always retain their culture, though.

>>10481114
No. That picture of yours will never, ever happen. That's the world Gensokyo's residence fled in the first place.

How old do tengus get?

>>10481142
Not quite sure, but I think Aya's like, 700 years old, and that's considered young.

>>10481232
No, she's over a thousand years old.

Aya is ancient.

>>10481331
And that's considered young? Wow.
...this does not help my desires to wed her.

>>10480788
Canonically flies.


>>10481060
Kappas having technology at par of that of us humans, and gods wanting to introduce nuclear energy as a new energy source, I suppose it already did. Just not for your regular villager/youkai.

I can't imagine the Kappas having such an advance technology and not developing digital thingamajigs. And they're definitively keeping the technology for themselves at Youkai Mountain.

Maybe Aya just uses her bunkachou to take notes, and then she transcribes them to her computer at home, ha. And remember Hatate uses a cellphone to take pictures for her articles.

And didn't Yukari use a cellphone to talk with Ran?, Gensokyo is already past iPhone 6.

>>10481449
>Maybe Aya just uses her bunkachou to take notes, and then she transcribes them to her computer at home, ha.
Nooo! She's the traditional reporter of fantasy!

>>10481503
Are you for real? Using a computer doesn't necessarily mean that you abandon your traditions. It's just a fast and reliable way of managing information.

>>10481557
...I don't like it.

>>10481557
Do you want Aya to go out of business?

Nobody buys paper newspaper anymore. She needs to keep up with technology.

>>10481567
Do you want Aya to go out of business?

Nobody buys paper newspaper anymore. She needs to keep up with technology.

>>10481611
>Nobody buys paper newspaper anymore.
Is this even true? There's a ton of different papers in my city alone, and there are many ways to make use of the paper once you read it.

>>10481611
No, but...the image of Aya using a typewriter or something is so much better than her using a computer.

And of course they do. Gensokyoians don't have computers or TVs.

>>10481620
...

>>10481620
I'm sure people still buy papers, but from what I've seen, it's slowly but surely getting less popular

>>10481717
If newspapers are dying out in the outside, they'll thrive in Gensokyo. Right?

>>10480923
Given that Aya routinely flaunts even the most basic of journalistic standards (falsifying events, passing off opinion as fact, libel), I would say that Hatate wins this competition by default. This, of course, is notwithstanding any of the other Tengu that produce newspapers that were mentioned in CoLA.

Aya probably wins the "best reporter" designation by a long shot, though.

>>10481620
>>10481611
Given that the human village (which is the only market for Gensokyo's newspapers) artifically lives somewhere in the late feudal period for the benefit of the youkai, I'd say Kakashi and Bunbun won't be putting out iPad editions anytime too soon.

Also, most people who talk about newsprint going extinct don't really know why people buy newspapers.
A lot of people simply like the feel of a newspaper. That's really something that can't be simulated with an iPad or whatever: you can't fold an iPad in half, you can't take arts section out of an iPad to give to your girlfriend, who wants to read the comics, and screen caps are a hassle when you can just rip out stuff and pin it on your fridge.

As the baby boomers die off I do expect print editions to become more of a rarity, but they will continue to exist for the simple fact that pixels on a screen can't replicate the experience and conveniences that many people are accustomed to.

>>10481730
>falsifying events, passing off opinion as fact, libel
Does that still happen? The SoPM Bunbunmaru articles seemed legit.

>>10481730
>Hatate wins this competition by default.
You are a decent and just person, Journalist-kun.

>>10481730
>>10481754
Hatate not being opinionated and stuff is canceled out by her reporting on month-old news.

>>10481765
Irrelevant once you consider the fact that in the feudal era month-old news are the equivalent of today's breaking news.

>>10481730
Journalist-kun, I'm thinking of studying journalism after I get my associates. How is it?

>>10481774
Not when Gensokyo is so small, the tengu get around so fast, and there's so many reporters who report on said news when it actually happens.
Swing and a miss.

>>10481784
Youkai don't interact with the village as regularly as you think and gensokyo is by no means small.

>>10481789
Sure they do, at least newspaper wise. And Gensokyo is small enough.

>>10481717
>>10481728
This was actually the whole point of a CoLA chapter: the disappearance of newsprint in the outside world produced a massive glut of newsprint in Gensokyo, resulting in the proliferation of cheaply-produced Tengu newspapers.

>>10481741
>Does that still happen? The SoPM Bunbunmaru articles seemed legit.
Her editorializing shines through in about half of the articles. I know that ZUN isn't a journalist, but even he should realize that writing such lines would get any journalist cashiered by their editor:
http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Symposium_of_Post-mysticism:_Bunbunmaru_Newspaper_1
>With explosive sounds that you can only define as "noise"

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Symposium_of_Post-mysticism:_Bunbunmaru_Newspaper_3
>The person that did this is unkown, but since there wasn't an incident in the first place it's not a problem.

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Symposium_of_Post-mysticism:_Bunbunmaru_Newspaper_5
This one is bordering on libel, and in some jurisdictions Kogasa could probably bring a successful suit against Aya

>>10481802
If you say so.

>>10481802
Jesus fuck I haven't been to that website in a while, still as terrible as ever.

>>10481802
>This one is bordering on libel, and in some jurisdictions Kogasa could probably bring a successful suit against Aya
Summarize the main points of this hypothetical suit.

I've often heard it said that Aya and Hatate should team up. Aya reports, Hatate edits/writes/something. Or something like that.
Journalist-kun, would that work? Does that make sense?

>>10481834
Better than the current poosh wiki.

>>10481802
>"What, you don't know? It's the job of a babysitter to fly through the sky using an umbrella."

If I wasn't already fond of Kogasa, that line would have done it.

>>10481841
Best team.

>>10481841
Not him but there would be too many disagreements which would lead to slower distribution.

>>10481754
>>10481765
Which is why I said that she wins "by default" and qualified my statement with the fact that she could very well be easily outranked by another Tengu who adheres to simple ethical standards and does more than research articles through Google image search. Although DS and some later cameos indicate that she is trying to branch out and do honest reporting, she is still a pretty shitty reporter by all objective standards. She reminds me of when I first started writing articles as a teenager by sending e-mails and sort-of plagiarizing the articles of other journalists (which is why I have a soft spot for Hatate)

>>10481774
>>10481784
>>10481789
>>10481797
The market for Gensokyo's news is a single village and a handful of farms. In rural places like these news is mostly crop predictions, gossip, and who got eaten by Rumia the night before. Word of mouth would probably be the primary news source and newspapers would most likely be supplementary sources to provide information that humans couldn't gather without getting eaten

>>10481854
Never.

>>10481845
Apologizing for going off-topic, but what's the status on that now? I remember a thread a little while ago complaining about the translations and some people started talking to the wiki guys. How did that go?

>>10481872
The person who was literalizing translations said he'd stop.

The person who was editing the translations got bored really quickly.

>>10481866
But Momiji hates Aya now...

>>10481883
No way.

>>10481778
Myself, I wouldn't have it any other way. I've always been an inquisitive person, always loved finding out secrets and new things, always loved asking questions. The additional fact that my only marketable skills involve research and writing probably steered me in the direction. For me, what I love about my career is the hunt involved: finding a story, tracking it down, and bagging it. It's one of the few professions where you get to legally hunt man, the most dangerous game of all!

That being said, I am not going to lie to you: the job market is bad and will get worse, even as the boomers start retiring. Many positions are being made redundant (especially in print) and what's being created on the web does not have the job security or pay that my peers enjoyed ten years ago.

I'm a year from graduation, but I can relay the advice that my superiors have all told me. Ensure that you have a workable knowledge in all media platforms (radio, broadcast, online, and print), network as hard as you can (with both potential employers and future sources), and learn how to sell yourself well if you plan on doing anything related to freelance. Be persistent in chasing a story. Try and write every day, if you can. Finally, if you have any favourite journalists, read them and study them extensively - how they write, who influenced them, and so on. I'm agnostic on additional post-secondary, as I've seen both people who did well without any additional training, and people who swear by Master's Programs (which I am considering after my B.A.) and the additional benefits and extensive opportunities they provide relative to a lower level of education. Be sure to go for internships and other programs that provide intensive opportunities "in the field."

>>10481866
Sure

>>10481931
Momiji leaving a fellow tengu for dead? Leave the libel to the professionals, anon.

>>10481835
The core of libel law is that anything written which is meant to cause damage to the reputation of someone else constitutes libel and entitles the victim to a remedy.

Kogasa's case would probably rest with the last paragraph, where she derides Kogasa as so:
>Someone that goes around startling children is not much of a babysitter and, I'm afraid to say, can only be seen as a simple weirdo.

Granted, Kogasa trying to babysit kids IS sketchy as fuck, but such an article would damage her efforts to continue a sustainable career and could be grounds for a suit
Get back to me in a couple of years when I take my libel law courses

>>10481841
I think it's a pretty good idea which is why I started posting it years ago
What I remember writing is that their abilities compliment each other. Aya goes out and reports on shit, and then gives it over to Hatate, who uses her cellphone to find out what Aya made up and wring out Aya's editorializing. Furthermore, Hatate's commitment to engaging the intelligence of the reader makes her a good editor while Aya's powers, experience, and total lack of restraint means that she would be better off gathering news

Would Aya cover a war?

>>10481931

I'd believe it, since she's part crow. Doesn't necessarily mean she actually IS the fastest though.

>>10482049
Living in Gensokyo is war man you wouldn't understand
You haven't seen the things shes seen
You haven't covered the things shes seen
You wouldn't get it

>>10481983
B-but I thought I started that idea, so long ago...

Also why isn't this doujin translated?

>>10482131
I honestly forget whether or not I came up with the idea itself.

Maybe we both came up with it independently. Perhaps we got yahztee'd?

>>10482192
Eh, whatever.
Yahztee'd?

>>10482199
It's a term political cartoonists use to refer to instances where several cartoonists unknowingly draw the same cartoon about the same event.

An example is when about fifty cartoonists around the world drew a cartoon is the Statue of Liberty engulfed in/staring at plumes of smoke in immediate reaction to 9/11.

>>10482217
The more you know!

>>10481983
>The core of libel law is that anything written which is meant to cause damage to the reputation of someone else constitutes libel and entitles the victim to a remedy.
I'm pretty sure the core of libel is that something has to be factually inaccurate before you can actually sue anybody.

>>10482342
Which is why I erred on the side of caution and said that it was only borderline, rather than honest-to-god libel.

It would really be up to Kogasa to convince the judge that Aya's statement is incorrect. The first half is, but the second half is probably up the discretion of the judge. Making the case for the presence of malice and damage to reputation would be a lot easier to make, I think.

Also, from what I hear Americans can get away with a lot more than British and Canadian journalists. Lucky.

>>10482438
>The first half is
Should read "The first half isn't".
Fuck me.

>>10482438
>Which is why I erred on the side of caution and said that it was only borderline.
Aya expressed an opinion. Opinions are not falsifiable. There isn't a court in the world that would convict for libel.

> Making the case for the presence of malice and damage to reputation would be a lot easier to make.
It doesn't matter how much malice or damage was caused if the statement in question is either an opinion, or true.

>>10482457
Aya presents Kogasa's "weirdness" as an indisputable fact in the article

How would Aya be able to prove her opinion as fact?

>>10482457
Also, where are you from?

People have been successfully sued for VERY similar cases up here in Canada. More of the burden lies with the defendant.

>>10480798
ohhh, that drawing is really good.
got more of those?

>>10482478
The label "weirdo" is not one that is rooted in objective truths. It is an inherently subjective term. The claim that Kogasa is "clearly a weirdo" is not a falsifiable claim.

>Also, where are you from?
The United States.

>People have been successfully sued for VERY similar cases up here in Canada.
I would be terrified to live in a jurisdiction where I could be sued for libel by expressing a subjective opinion.

>>10482514
In order to successfully sue somebody for expressing a comment all you need to do is get a judge to agree with you that the comment was made with malicious intent

I wonder how Eiki would swing?

>>10482611
According to the Canadian Bar Association's article on libel and slander, "The statement must be false to be classified as defamation."

>>10482611
According to the Canadian Bar Association's article on libel and slander, "The statement must be false to be classified as defamation."

I never played through PoFV with Aya so I wouldn't know, but there would probably be some clues there.

>>10482629
Does this mean that I have been censoring myself for years in my editorials for no good reason? Even after seeing my peers get sued?

;_;

>>10482719
You should just phrase everything in ways where you can say you weren't trying to state anything was actually true but merely suggesting possibilities.

>>10482745
Or I could pull a Thomas Friedman and write entirely in cryptic metaphors! They can't sue me if they don't know what the hell I am talking about!

>>10482772
You could write in the most ambiguous fashion possible so that they cannot possibly prove that you intended to insult them.

>>10482788
...that was kind of the joke

Aya wants an interview!

>>10483635
It's not an interview if she kidnapped me, it's an interrogation!

>>10483635
Interview this! *whips out SURPRISE!*

>>10483635
A marriage interview.

What would Aya look for in a man?

>>10483819
Another reporter, probably another tengu.

Also, nerdy Aya~

>>10483819
Speed. Maybe not physically, but at least mentally. Gotta be able to keep up!
Someone that doesn't mind being leaned on a bit, but at the same time doesn't mind her not being around all the time. Being a reporter makes for an inconsistent schedule.
Someone who can take some teasing and maybe dish some out; nobody super serious.

And a lot of other qualities she probably wouldn't know she likes until she sees someone with them. Love is weird, right?

Is Aya's reporting style a good representation of tengu reporting on a whole?

>>10485513
I think she's about as representative of the tengu as Marisa is of the humans.

So, not at all.

>>10485523
Oh. So youkai mountain isn't a giant mess of reporters trying to get dirt on each other?

>>10485534

I imagine Youkai Mountain is like a cult compound. They just sit there in their mountain fort and put arrows in anyone who gets near.

>>10485543
...meh. That's a dumb idea.

Are there any japanese series involving tengu?

It's valentines day. Should I do something with Aya?

>>10489771
Dump her.
Say something stupid then like "our time is ogre"

How does Hatate get her pictures out of her phone?

The tengu have a functional computer and printer, don't they?

>>10489795
Hell no. Are you crazy?

>>10489805
Well, dunno, she is fast so why not ask her to give you a ride in her back?
You can put on pilot googles and make "pew pew" sounds while doing so.

>>10489815
That sounds amazing. I but I was thinking of something more for her than me, you know?
And something I can actually do.

>>10489821
Give you her the ride then ┐('～` )┌

>>10489833
I mean in real life.

Remember these?

>>10489841
How fucking hard is to attach an Aya picture to yourself and go jog for a while.

I want to take pictures and fly around with Aya, then we'd go get matching tokins and tengu masks. After that, we could hang out and maybe invite some other touhous over for drinks or games. Me and Aya could hang out with Suika, Reimu, Kogasa, Yuugi, Kaguya, Nitori, or Nue (if she's up for it).

>>10492202
>Suika, Reimu, Kogasa, Yuugi, Kaguya, Nitori, or Nue
What a strange assortment.
Also, oni? No, no way.

>>10492215
I don't see why not. The tengu and oni may have clashed in the past, but that was long ago and Suika and Aya seem to be on really good terms with each other. Suika is very friendly and welcoming towards Aya, and although Aya may be slightly skeptical and defensive towards Suika, she still holds mutual respect and friendliness for her. Reimu is also good friends with Aya, and Nitori is familiar with Aya as they live nearby each other and the kappa created the camera that Aya uses specifically for her.

Also Nue seems like she would be pretty cool to hang out with. I really like her as a character. I just wish that she had more connections to other characters. The only characters she really has any ties to are Byakuren and Mamizou, whereas Aya has connections to literally every touhou character from game 6 to game 12.

>>10492266
>she still holds mutual respect and friendliness for her
But that's an act, isn't it?

>>10492312
Not really, it's pretty genuine from the dialogues she's shared with Suika. Aya wouldn't gain anything out of faking kindness towards her anyway.

>>10480730

Get that Sakuya shit out of here, Aya doesn't have to use magic or spell cards for her speed she is the fastest end of story

>>10492325
I'm sure I read somewhere that it isn't entierly genuine.
And sure she would.

>>10492342

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOeYY3-5vOU

>>10492332
See >>10481095

Sakuya doesn't move because for the notion of speed to exist you need time flowing at least infinitesimally.

>>10492360

nice job nerds /sci/ would be proud

My Aya is scared of thunder. I don't know how I came up with that or why it's stuck around.

>>10492325
>it's pretty genuine from the dialogues she's shared with Suika.
Well of course, she holds Suika in regard because Tengu were once the Oni's bitch.

>>10492704
Well, lightning is attracted to things higher in the sky, and lightning always comes with thunder, so it kindasorta makes sense.

>>10492783
My idea was more...when she was young and wasn't sure how to handle her absurd speed yet, she accidentally flew right into a huge thundercloud and got lost in it for the duration of the storm. It really freaked her out, in a big way.
Sounds plausible enough, but...ugh.

>>10492704
Flying is weak to electric.

>>10492704
I thought of a story where Aya got over her fear of thunderstorms the first time she flew up and out of one to break into the sunlight.

I don't think birds can fly that high, but maybe tengu can.

Aya pls.
Patchouli is the fastest Touhou.

>>10492783
Aya looks damn good in a suit.

>>10497438
Aya looks damn good.