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If she's supposed to only act on her instincts doesn't that mean she murders and eats a human every time she feels hungry?

>> No.10475566
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Koishi doesn't eat humans.

>> No.10475570 [DELETED] 

yes the underground youkai are old fashioned
youkai eat humans the only reason the surface youkai don't is because they want peace and live peacefully with humans and have contracts

probs not many humans outside the surface tho

>> No.10475581

Youkai eat other animals, too. Not just humans.

>> No.10475596

Judging from the SA dialog she's obviously just an impulsive but ultimately normal yokai girl. Along with the whole "I'll wear your guts as garters if you lose" thing.

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>>10475596
>Make scary threats while fighting
>Do nothing if win

>> No.10475674

She's also the most likely to rape you ruthlessly.

>> No.10475689

You raise an interesting point...satori get energy from thoughts, but Koishi's cut herself off from that.

>> No.10475700

>>10475689
Obviously she goes about eating dreams.

>> No.10475778

>>10475570
More like, they don't because the population of humans in Gensoukyou would die out. That much is stated in PMiSS. And they do eat any humans that stumble in from the outside.

>>10475566
Not this shit again.

>> No.10475787 [DELETED] 

This is why I don't think Touhou quite "makes sense" in the West. Westerners are used to very black or white morality: you kill, you're evil. Superhero comics are a good example because what used to be censorship has been made part of the characters' personal ethics. For example, Batman is fine with terrorizing people, but to end the life of another human being is pushing it too far.

In Touhou, the characters are youkai, monsters who eat people. The typical Touhou has probably killed and ate many stray humans, but that doesn't necessarily make them evil or any less of cute little girls. That said they probably don't do it often, and ZUN has pretty much said a few times that the youkai want to take it easy and live in peace with their prey.

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>>10475787
>This is why I don't think Touhou quite "makes sense" in the West. Westerners are used to very black or white morality: you kill, you're evil.
Asian exceptionalism at work.

>> No.10475821

>>10475787
The Great Hakurei Barrier and the resulting forced coexistence with the humans within started only about 127 years ago, apparently. It's worthy of note that most Touhou characters appear to be older than 127 years old.

Still, that coincides with what you said, more or less. At least you didn't say they never eat humans, so I won't argue with you.

>> No.10475837 [DELETED] 

In the early Windows games, Reimu thinks she has killed someone and doesn't give a fuck. Marisa also talks about exterminating youkai.

I fucking hate the spell card rules retcon. ZUN shouldn't been that pandering.

>> No.10475842

>>10475837
It isn't a retcon. EoSD is, in canon, the first time they were used.

>> No.10475875

>>10475787
> The typical Touhou has probably killed and ate many stray humans
Even the intelligent ones like tengu or celestial touhous? I have a difficult time seeing Hatate or Tenshi eating humans.

>> No.10475884 [DELETED] 

>>10475875
im not saying they 100% havent, but it's unlikely since they arent youkai

>> No.10475887

>>10475821

Barrier doesn't really matter that much. They still hunt humans in the outside world.

Yukari clearly stated in WaHH that they are getting more than enough "food" from somewhere.

>> No.10475890

>>10475875

Heavenly beings obviously don't eat people.

But Tengu? Why wouldn't they?

>> No.10475904

>>10475875
You have a hard time seeing them eating humans just because they're intelligent?

Humans are supposedly intelligent, yet you see them killing each other casually all the time. Even if they aren't directly doing it, they're indirectly doing it and then acting like they aren't. Such is the nature of Capitalism.

Consider that youkai culture is likely to be pretty different than human culture, too. I doubt they share the same ideas of what's weird or disgusting or bad as us.

>>10475887
Yep. And nowhere that I know of does it say that they are only targetting suicidal humans, etc. (something weird that I keep hearing). It only says that they often make it look like a runaway or an accident.

>> No.10475911

>>10475890
Are Tengu known to eat people?

>> No.10475918

>>10475911
Well, Aya sure eat cocks.

>> No.10475922
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>tfw your cute youkai waifu decides to eat you

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>>10475918

>> No.10475924

>>10475922
I would not worry about such a thing.

>> No.10475930

>>10475545

>instincts
>eating and killing humans

Instinct doesn't mean running around doing whatever. Humans instinctively don't want to kill and eat each other.

>> No.10475932

>>10475930
You have never once just had an impulse to kill somebody?

>> No.10475936

>>10475932

I've felt like I wanted to kill someone, but I think we use that word too lightly. In reality, we just wanted to bite them and scare them off, like two small primates on a mortal plane.

>> No.10475938

>>10475930
>Humans instinctively don't want to kill and eat each other.

People like to kill things, mostly men.

People also like to not get killed, this is for all.

These two instincts contradict each other but are there, both.

>> No.10475941

>>10475930
That's called the "superego," which is very different from the "Id."

Actually, humans also have the instinct to kill, especially for the purpose of eating. A lot of human food has come from hunting.

One of the strangest parts of human culture is that it is widely considered bad to eat other humans, regardless of whether the human is an enemy or not. Granted, if you aren't careful you could easily get a disease from it, but as long as you know what you're doing you'll be fine...

>> No.10475945

>>10475936
You may. Not everyone does.

>> No.10475954

>>10475938

I know, but if you look at Humans in general, they don't like killing each other, even if it is for selfish reasons.

>>10475941

Our instincts don't know we know what we're doing. Our genes don't know we can cook food. That's why its disgusting to us. Personally, I don't see the big deal socially. I'd like to try Human meat.

>> No.10475978

>>10475941
>>10475954
Morons. You gather same material you are made of and get laughing disease. Fucking culinary hipster idiots.
>know what you are doing
Stupid motherfucker

>> No.10475990

>>10475954
>I know, but if you look at Humans in general, they don't like killing each other, even if it is for selfish reasons.
If the "superego" was missing, the only reason you would hesitate to kill someone (provided you have a reason to), would be most likely out of simple fear of retaliation. The law is a strange thing; if it was gone, the actions of the people would often be regulated by this simple fear, and we would continue advancing as a species all the same.

>>10475978
I thought you simply had to avoid the central nervous system and make sure you cooked it well? There's probably more to it than that, but...

>> No.10475998

Koishi probably just wanders into homes and Mystia's shack and sleeps and eats wherever she wants. I don't think she actually eats people, her SoPM doesn't really imply it at all, she probably just acts like Yukari and sneaks away your food when you're "not paying attention."

>> No.10476000

>>10475978
I'm not him, but there existed tribes in Brazil who ate all captured warriors from rival warriors whenever they were victorious in a battle, believing they'd adsorb their strength. Probably there should've been similar customs in another parts of the world.

I seriously doubt they didn't know what was safe to eat, even if they learned through seeing who died and who didn't after eating each part of the warriors.

>> No.10476004

>>10475990
(look i got no morals neither brain and act on abstract desires)

>> No.10476002

>>10476000
Woops.
warriors from rival tribes*, obviously

>> No.10476031

>>10475904
>nowhere that I know of does it say that they are only targetting suicidal humans, etc.

Sure, but apparently suicidal and otherwise disturbed humans are more tasty. At least according to Yamame.

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>> No.10476042

>>10476031
It's likely that taste and flavor vary widely dependent on the youkai in question.
Especially for youkai with more abstract diets, like kogasa.

>> No.10476064

What nutrients could they possible seek to gain from human flesh?

>> No.10476073

>>10476064
Patchouli lacks iron so probably that.

>> No.10476096

>>10476064
Regular nutrients. Some youkai may need them, if that's how people imagine them.

But in most cases it's probably just the fear that they're after. Nothing makes you scarier than eating someone's friends and family members.

>> No.10476108

>>10476064
All sorts of good stuff. Humans have trouble eating other humans because of nasty prions and what not but with youkai they're free to gorge themselves on you and your kin.

>> No.10476271

>>10476096
>But in most cases it's probably just the fear that they're after. Nothing makes you scarier than eating someone's friends and family members.

This here. They don't need actual nutrients, it's stated clearly that they won't die if they don't eat humans, they only die if people stop fearing/believing/respecting/whater them.

Also apparently humans are fucking delicious

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Her natural instinct to carve for cock.

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