/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Trying to start Steins;Gate but it keeps crashing right after the second Caution message (I'm using applocale in Windows 7 64bit). Anyone had this issue before? Google is not helping.

Is there any significant difference between various versions of Oretsuba?

Almost finished with Swan Song. I'll be more or less aligned with its timing.

>>10465685
In R, beside the addition of Ai route, I heard they censored some of the drug references etc. since it's all ages.

>>10465690
This is interesting. What kind of drugs do they talk about?

>>10465693
foxxy methoxy

>>10465676
Same problem, and it's bullshit how no one posted a fix for such a popular VN.

I was thinking of trying "After Regaining Consciousness I Became My Cousin's Bishoujo Guardian Swordswoman".

>>10465693
I don't know since I still haven't gotten around to playing it, only heard people talk about it here. I was actually wondering that myself, because I couldn't decide if I should play the original then play Ai's route in R, or if I should just go with R for the whole thing.

>>10465676
AppLocale doesn't always work. Have you tried with setting your system locale to Japanese.

>>10465671
Yep, not sure what the hell is going on, no one else seems to have this issue.

>>10465697
because only stupid people face the same problem as you.

>>10465713
Try restarting your computer.

>>10465713
Is your format set to Japanese?

>>10465722
Just changed it, no difference though.

>>10465720
I'll give it a go, can't hurt but I did since yesterday when I started trying to install it and I've restarted since then.

>>10465734
Did you ask in the /vg/ VN thread? The english patch just came out so there is probably a lot of people playing it there, maybe one of them had the same problem.

>>10465734
Yeah no luck, I can try running from the setup.exe directly but I get

モジュールの起動場所が指定されていません。

And what I'm getting from that is that It wants me to run it directly from the autorun.

>>10465741
Good point, I tend to forget about /vg/ VN threads. I'll give it a browse.

>>10465745
Got it, just extracted the gamedata from both discs and merged it without the installer itself, thank god it was so simple or I would have been stuck at the installer. Thanks for the advice everyone.

Playing Kara no shoujo right now, and its creeping me out. How scary does this game get? Are there any scenes I need to mentally prepare myself for? Please help /jp/ I'm scared ;(

>>10465818
It's great, keep playing.

>>10465818
I just started playing it too. The only thing I'm scared of, is that it would be too hard (like クロウカシス).

Is it worth it to play Baldr Force when you already played Baldr Sky?

>>10465844
use a walkthrough, its impossible without one.

>>10466085
Really? I want to try it without a walkthrough at least once.

>>10465818

>>>/a/

>>10465985

I'm not sure why you're asking that. They're two entirely different games. Don't play Force if you're just going to compare it to Sky the entire way through.

>>10465611
The font in my Kanishino is pretty normal

Just finished reading through MLA for the third time (first in english, second slowpoke as fuck using dictionary and text hooker in Japanese, this time with no help) and have even more appreciation for it than before. I'm going to go back to MLU and read Yuuko's ending since I haven't read it at all and am interested in what she says and how I can connect it to MLA. After that I'll be reading Kono Oozora ni, that came out some time last year.

Real deal as fuck

So anyone reading Kara no Shoujo 2?
I'm not hearing some really good things from 2ch

Is this a real thing?

>Ikimashouing

pfffffftttttttt fug

>>10466896
well the demo was a real thing at least, it's a shame the dude never followed up on it
I imagine you should be able to find a download if you search for Kawaii Adobenshaas in Anime Rando

>>10466896
Is that from the same artist who worked on Harumade, kururu?

New Light by the Kaminoyu team.
At least the art looks much better now.

Playing ラスト・ピュリファイ, what a garbage. Is it going to get any better?

>>10466923
If you don't like it now you should quit.
It's pretty straigthforward in its approach of the setting and theme.
Well it's not long and the shit does hit the fan later on but I can't recommend for you to continue if you already dislike it.

This bastard is living the dream

>>10466888
Skipping is way too fucking slow which makes backtracking extremely painful.
I mean there are some scenes where it takes 1 second for the whole sentence to change while skipping.

>>10466931
Somehow it reminds me of movie Equilibrium, but while the movie was serious and dark, LP is too childish. I'm at the very beginning though, can't see nothing of interest yet. Since you say it's short and on vndb so much positive scores I'm going to read till the end.

>>10466943
Isn't that from that 3P game? What are you thoughts on it? I have it downloaded from some reason, but I haven't managed to start it yet.

What is a vn simple enough for Japanese learner?

>>10466981
I've seen Flyable Heart recommended a lot.

>>10466953
It's around 300kb, shit hits the fan in the last quarter or so.

And yeah I also tried it after seeing the ratings in vndb and was a bit disappointed, it has a very straightforward and kind of childish take on its story and the developments are pretty generic, you can basically see the whole thing coming from the beginning.
It's not horrible if you turn your brain off and think of it as watching a pop-corn movie though.

>>10465818
Yeah, there's some gore and fucked-up stuff, and some other stuff that's pretty heartbreaking.

Doesn't change the fact that it's damn near a masterpiece. Enjoy it.

>>10466943
Yeah I know. Cute girlfriend AND cute boyfriend. Screw her, I'm jealous.

>>10466914
If you think "more generic" means "better".

>>10466999
The art look the same but with less Clamp style bodies.
It's better

>>10466981
I'm reading eiyuu senki as my second untranslated VN and I understand almost everything, it's pretty simple.

>>10466997
Is it bad that I want to see a VN with a female protagonist getting together with her male and female childhood friends?

>>10467012
NO.

If some company would make a game like this I would seriously buy five copies. Not even joking.

Fuck yesssssssss, today is a happy day.

>>10467012
That LEAVEs doujin game would've been nice if they'd had a threeway.

I usually don't care for incest, but when (and only when) it's 姉弟 and they're related by blood it suddenly becomes an incredible turn-on.

I wonder what Freud would say about this...

OH SHIT GUYS

Very-beginning-of-Kara no Shoujo 2 spoiler TOUKO LIVES ENDING IS CANON unless this is Sugina trolling us with that CG.

There's actually an even more "holy shit" development in the game before this, but I wouldn't dream of giving that away.

>>10467046
I enjoyed that game. The first one had a better story though I admit. The second had some incredibly cute scenes though so it was definitely worth it.

>>10467055
That's good to hear. I found them through vndb (using the 'blood-related brother/sister incest' and 'high sexual content' tags) and was planning on playing through both of them, having only just started on the first.

>>10466976
Is shit realy..just download the HCG set and fap.

>>10466976
So-so actually, I like the character interactions so far, especially with the main heroine and your "chosen" heroine.

>>10467053
You mean the ending when Toko gets her limbs amputated is the true end?

>>10467046
I found a rape with blackmail tag.
I hope this isn't what I think it is

>>10467129
But that happens to her in every end. The end that image was originally from is the only one where she survived it.

>>10467073
I don't care for HCG sets. It's just not the same without the voice.

>>10467168
there should be a site that plays the corresponding voices to certain cgs. original idea do not steal

never finished kara no shoujo and not going to

so, who was the culprit?

>>10466976
It's a typical moege except the twist is that you can either stay completely faithful to your chosen waifu, or sleep with her and one other girl of your choosing. Some of the sex scenes were admittedly pretty hot.

>>10467215
or you could just download the game and a savefile and go to scene recollection

Also, apropos of probably nothing, something occurred to me for the first time about this image: I think the body here is meant to look like the wooden figure dummies that artists use as references for drawings. I never noticed it, since those dummies don't typically have breasts, but the ball joints on the waist and fingers pretty much give it away.

>>10467229
that person

>>10467229
The protag's other personality

>>10467229
Me.

Finished Gears of Dragoon and I have to say, I have mixed feelings with the NTR scenes. I detest NTR in my story but at the same time the more I like the heroine the more delicious the NTR is. Not sure if I should be feeling angry or happy anymore...

That aside, the gameplay felt pretty well done and for once, the gameplay posed a decent challenge. Not impossibly hard (unless you screw up horribly) but definitely not easy enough for you to steamroll over everything on your first run.

>>10467377
>mfw KIETAI KIENAI KIETAI ZUTTO ITAKUTE TSURAKUTE

>>10467696
Don't you have to choose for it to happen on the main heroines anyway? Never got around to finishing chaos route.

>>10467770
Pretty much, or rather you're given an option to kill him the moment he shows up.

>>10467696
So is the story good? Are the characters interesting?

>>10467853
Story is enjoyable enough when you consider it has gameplay components, characters... Not as much, at least the heroines. I only liked Sheeta.

>>10465611
Reading that seems like a good way to make it so you can actually read handwriting.

>>10467887
Not really.

>>10467031

What is that?

>>10467887
I don't really have a problem reading it, but it is certainly annoying and wears down my concentration quickly especially in 40+ hour game. A quick google shows that some Japanese people felt the same way.
I don't really have a problem with handwriting unless it is chicken scratch or those cursive/calligraphy/grass script kanji. Cursive kana is pretty easy though as long as they are consistent.

>>10468065
And why don't change the font?

Well, after taking around 8 hours to download last night, I just started ピアノの森の満開の下. So far, I'm liking the art style, but I'm wondering, why are both Konohana and Sakuno voice by the same person?

>>10468065
I wonder how he got this cursive font.
When I played the game the font was normal, and I don't remember an option to change the font

>>10468501
Might be you don't have that font installed so it came up as default for you, but comes up as that for japanese os or anything that has more asian fonts installed

I started to play kiminozo latest edition but everytime I start it I get a pop up message about how there was a problem with my sound card or something and all sounds are defaulted to off.
I just have to turn them on again, but it's annoying as fuck, anyone knows how to solve it?

>>10466981
Basically anything that isn't known for it's language difficulty (Muramasa, rail-soft, Oretsuba, etc.).

>>10468754
The rugp engine or whatever it's called occasionally fucks up sound. So try playing with all the sound options in game (try turning all the features off). You can also try messing with your OS's sound options (trying switching to 16bit CD quality).

>>10468762
Pretty much this. There may be a few VNs with simpler language than average, but I've found that the majority of VNs are nearly on the same level. As long as you use common sense and don't jump right into Dies Irae or something right after you learn basic grammar you should be alright. Of course things like moege are easier usually, but you'd probably want to save the more plot focused VNs for when your language improves anyway, at least I did.

>>10465693
LSD, marijuana, and the fan disk has cocaine. This is a content spoiler, but mild so read at your own discretion since one of the protagonists gets involved in gang culture, the circulation and use of drugs among a teenage crowd is a motif. They don't villianize it, and its presence in the game was justified. However, just about every character in that protagonist's segment is "off beat" in some fashion. I only read R for Ai's route, so I don't know "how" they censored it, but given the context and content I find it somewhat difficult to imagine it not being there or being implicit, since some stuff would just be random nonsense unless you take drugs into account.

If you're going to play it I encourage the 18+ version and then R. There's nothing really to gain from the H-Scenes particularly, ones involving a certain heroine rather detract from the game but I think it's of benefit to play the game completely uncensored.

Speaking of which, has anyone heard about what's going to be in the PS3 release? I'm not expecting additional content because it's 5pb, but what's going to be in it?

>>10468762
People said Daitoshokan a lot during these past threads, but I'm reading through that right now, and I have yet to meet one that is simpler than Alice Parade. It's moege through and through but I read it years ago already when I barely knew over 400 kanji and I was able to go through it with a dictionary and basic knowledge on grammar. Noizi Itou art didn't hurt either.

>>10468833
>Alice Parade
That was one of the easiest VNs I've ever read. The fact that I loved the art (the art of all Union Shift Blossom games actually, I've yet to look up the artist) and the heroines were adorable was a bonus.

>>10468835
Interesting. You don't get a lot of realistic to semi-realistic portrayal of drug use in popular Japanese media. I remember in the first bad end in G-senjou no Maou where the portray the heroine having gone "bad" by having her smoke pot. Really?

Then there's the last chapter in Kara no Kyoukai where the main villain grows "concentrated" pot that's 10x more potent than regular pot. It's laughable.

>>10468887
The whole Asia is like that.

>>10468887
Yeah I've found it kind of annoying how unrealistically drugs are portrayed sometimes. Especially since I have experience with things like heroin, most of the time it makes me laugh. On a whole it seems like a lot of real-life problems are a little unbelievable in a lot of VNs. I remember being amazed by Kazoku Keikaku when I played it some years ago because of how realistically it portrayed some psychological problems, I actually found myself relating to all the characters in one way or another which was kind of weird. Though perhaps I haven't played enough "real deal" VNs to compare.

>>10468909
>>10468887
Maybe people who write these things are that far out of reality. It is hard for me to conceive people making that big of a deal out of weed. I mean even most of the shut-ins on /jp/ have tried it.

Finished Mihono AKA my wife's route. My heart melted from all the moe, at least until they started fucking nonstop. I thought this was a pure love/healing game.

>>10469072
It's a 萌え抜きゲ, a.k.a. the best genre.

>>10469072
You haven't seen truMoe until you taste Ruria's puppy eyes begging.

And it is, though I guess it's a bit on the lewd side compared to the average pure love game, headphones, shaving, empty eyes and all.

>>10469072
I liked her too. The game was ok, but it had quite a few 'what?' moments. Most of them were lewd to the extreme, especially on Kuon's route and her epilogue.

>>10469072
OK so if you can use that fuwanovel shit I can use TA right?

>>10469571
Nobody's stopping you.

>>10469574
"BUT ITS A CRUTCH" -ANONYMOUS, 2013

>>10469579
It is, but who cares about you. It won't stop it being a crutch.

>>10469588
Then why the fuck use it, it wont make you better

>>10469579
You can just use it without talking about it. Depending on how much you rely on it (actual machine translations, or the text parser/furigana thing it comes with, etc.) your experience might be gimped but nobody can physically force you to stop. Personally I don't like machine translations but JParser seems ok to me. You'd eventually graduate from using it anyway.

>>10469592
I want to be the best Visual Novel, Video Game, and Japanese book reader in the world and TA and other tools won't help me reach that goal

>>10469591
>it wont make you better
I never got when people said this. Isn't TA a program you use to quickly look up kanji? Just seeing them along with the meaning over and over again would make you naturally remember them, same with if you repeatedly saw the kanji in a textbook or something. Unless you're some kind of non-sentient human that doesn't have the ability of memorization.

>>10469598
Then don't use them? I'm not sure I understand your point. I learned enough Japanese beforehand to be able to read VNs without the assistance of tools, but if someone uses them and it actually helps them learn, I don't really see a problem with that.

>>10469600
>Isn't TA a program you use to quickly look up kanji?
That's one way to use it. The other way is to use it to feed you machine translations.

>>10469617
I don't think anyone would defend using machine translation (here at least, I'm pretty sure people at vndb and hongfire actually use them). What confuses me is that I never know what exactly people are referring to when they just say "TA", and one use of it I find really dumb but I'm not against the other one. So I just assume the best and take it as meaning "using it for kanji". Of course the goal would be to eventually be able to read VNs normally without any assistance. Anyway I'm pretty sure most people who mention them are just trying to get people riled up so I guess I shouldn't respond.

>>10469600
You can either use TA for machine translations (which, as far as I'm concerned, are total fucking shit and they certainly won't help you learn the least bit) or use TA for JParser and MeCab, which allows you to look up words very quickly instead of having to open up your favorite dictionary.

The latter is extremely convenient and I have no idea why some people like to pretend that TA is all about machine translations. Using JParser and MeCab instead of focusing specifically on studying the words and Kanji by themselves will overall probably be slower overall (especially if your Japanese skills are on the weaker side, where you'll be looking things up constantly), but at least you'll eventually learn something through repetition, as you said. You'll also get reading practice, which is extremely important.

It's a crutch if you depend on it and don't try to actually pay attention to the words, rather than just using it for convenience. Doing the former is several kinds of stupid, especially since it also means you won't be able to read anything if you can't hook text (you know, like every goddamn non-PC game).

>>10469600
If you are the type of person that needs to be handled specially and blindly listens to what people will tell you, TA is an unbelievable crutch you can't trust yourself with. The point is that you have to make an effort to look at the kanji every time, for every word, not skip to the furigana.

Thus, if anyone really has to ask whether it is a crutch that will hurt them the answer is always YES. People who know themselves and their habits can clearly decide whether it will end up hurting them in the long run.

>>10469640
>Thus, if anyone really has to ask whether it is a crutch that will hurt them the answer is always YES. People who know themselves and their habits can clearly decide whether it will end up hurting them in the long run.
That's a good point. I can see how it would be hard to restrain yourself and actually look at and try to learn the kanji instead of just glancing over the meaning. Maybe it's something like: is the person actually attempting to lean Japanese, and doing things like studying materials along with reading VNs, or does he just want to be able to read VNs as quickly and cheaply as possible and get by with the minimum understanding of the language? To me, the former seems like the type of person who could make good use of TA's features, whereas the latter may be tempted to cut corners.

I don't use TA but let's be honest here. People are here to enjoy Japanese porno games and be with their waifus. They're not here to become Japanese language scholars.

>>10469661
But to prove I am good a Japanese I must be able to read lightning fast without tools, that's what /jp/ taught me

>>10469652
>look at and try to learn the kanji instead of just glancing over the meaning
Exactly. If you just glance over the meaning instead of putting any actual effort into learning anything, you might as well just get a machine translation since it kind of ends up being the same thing in the end.

Either way, I'm pretty sure it was established several threads back that around here people just look at the CG sets on sadpanda and make up their own stories, so I'm not sure why we are even having this useless conversation. Also, >>10469661.

VISUAL NOVELS SURE ARE FUN

>>10469668
You'll be able to read more if you can read faster. The time investment to become fluent pays for itself quickly if you are trying to read visual novels.

How many times have we had this "discussion" now?

>>10469681
I remember there was also that one faggot who just downloads them to collect the desktop shortcuts.

>>10469686
Personally, I like to download CG sets and character sprites and paste together my own story in Paint.

>>10469686

>>10469691
Could you show us some of your "work".

>>10469688
More times than there are stars in the sky.
And it always ends with people saying the same things so I'm not sure if the people who bring it up are just trying to start shit or if it's their first day in the thread or something.

>>10469695
Sorry but I put in much effort into my work so I require a payment of 500 pesos hand delivered to my front door.

>>10469702
Where do you live? I'll gladly bring them to you.

>>10469705
Ok I live in Concordia in Argentina. I can't say my address on the internet because I've heard there's serial killers and stuff, so I'll put a red balloon in front of my house so you'll know it's me. Please no gay stuff because my mom is home and that would be rude.

>>10469721
We are having an Argie /jp/ meetup. I'll add you to the guest's list if you are down for some cookies and tea~

I swear to fucking god takemine is yousuke I can't get it out of my head now, I'm expecting him to get stuck in a trash can any scene now

>>10469949
I'm pretty 100% sure it's him too. I didn't play P4 though so I didn't have that problem.

>>10469949
I don't like recognizing big-name VAs in VNs that have done work in anime or video games, because for most of them, I associate them with a specific role they've played. I had to drop an otome game because the only person I was interested was voiced by Sugita, and he'll always "be" Gintoki in my mind. It felt weird.

>>10470026
I don't really mind but Tokyo Babel was pretty bad considering that the protagonist even looked like Araragi. It would be harder to not draw any references.

Sugita in Gun Knight Girl on the other hand worked out just fine for me.

>>10469949
He is.

http://beautyplanets.web.fc2.com/VB/actor/c_3499.html

Well, I just got Sakuno's first ending in ピアノの森の満開の下 and overall, I'm really liking it so far. It ended up being a little sadder than I expected, but then again, I really should have actually read a brief synopsis before.
Also, while reading this, I've been noticing that there's more onomatopoeia and used than in most of the VNs I've read so far and ended up spending more time than I would have liked looking them up, which made me feel pretty stupid. Other than that, it was really easy to read.

>>10467751
Yeah, pretty much.

>>10469072
> read eroge
> complain about the sex scenes

Grisaia is getting some figmas this year.
I guess this all but confirm an upcoming anime

>>10470728
2014 I mean
The anime will probably air starting Fall

>>10470728
So what's the chance of the anime being actually good?

>>10470733
Not much unless it gets enough episodes, a large enough budget and a good studio.

>>10470733
They DID want to adapt the whole series in the announcement they made.

>>10470733
Zip.

>>10470728
That's awesome, I'll definitely need to get a few of those. As long as they look good, that is.

>>10470733
The same chance any anime is of being good.

>>10470737
I don't see them doing that, VNs as an anime cash cow have gone the way of ol yeller. I can see a porrly animated 1 cour anime though

>>10470736
>>10470737
>>10470740
;_;
I always wonder why the hell are VN adaptations almost always shit while LN adaptations mostly turns out fine.
They're both done as advertisements for the original medium.

>>10470763
VNs are longer and rely less on dialogue. Narrative dominated text is a lot harder to animate. LNs are the new go to medium for anime.

>>10470728
I'll hold out for my Michiru Nendroid.

>>10470770
>Narrative dominated text is a lot harder to animate.
LNs have lots of narrations too, if anything they tend to have more narrations because there's no picture slideshow to go along with it.

In any case I'm not really talking about Liar-soft text level adaptations here but the random moeges.

>>10470791
The narration in LNs is more about describing the surrounding and shit, different compared to VNs that are more about introspections.

>>10470787
>Michiru Nendroid
She was made for one.

>>10470792
They managed to make Bakemonogatari and Suzumiya Haruhi a success.

>mfw I get here and see /v/ memes

>>10470807
We also have /sp/

>>10470807
Man, flyable heart really is easy to read.

>>10470813
What's the story behind this?

>>10470817
He is a nippon eroge master.

Can you guys recommend me some vns where the protagonist isn't a beta spineless faggot? The last one I played that was like this was 俺が主人公 and I loved it. I cand read japanese, so it doesn't need to be translated.

>>10470832
花散峪山人考

>>10470832
Do you want ikemen alpha protags?

Akatsuki no Goei
Classy Cranberry's
Prima Stella

>>10470838
Not him but I've never actually played Prima Stella, how is it?

>>10470840
Common route is awesome, the character routes are shit.

>>10465715

>>10470838
>Classy Cranberry's
Well, moving that one up on my backlog

>>10470832
Give Fortissimo a spin too. It's a bit on the 中二 side though

>>10470868
Classy Cranberry's protag is wish fulfillment MAX. He's extremely rich, handsome and perfect at everything.

The whole game is practically one big circlejerk on how awesome he is.

Can anyone recommend me a vn that is easy to read? I only know 3500 vocab with about 1000 kanji.

>>10470890
You could probably read most moege. Go to the archive and search easy vn, you should be fine for any of them too.

>>10470886
Good. I've had my fair share of being a loser in real life.

>>10470890
http://vndb.org/v3883

>>10470886
How is the ero though?

>>10470890
Kanojo x Kanojo x Kanojo

It's extremely fappable, easy to read and the story isn't bad.

>>10470886
>The whole game is practically one big circlejerk on how awesome he is.
Totally giving that a spin, thanks!

>>10470896
I read this with AGTH+TA. Good times.

>>10470896
Extremely hot.
Happoubijin is the artist.

>>10470902
How was reading an entire VN in gibberish treat you?

>>10470896
Damn, I passed JLPT1 5 years ago and still had trouble reading that one. Even reading こゝろ(the actual novel) was easier.

>>10470902
>>10470902
How did reading an entire VN in gibberish treat you?

>>10470912
>How was reading an entire VN in gibberish treat you?

>>10470912
Maybe he just used it for words he didn't know?

>>10470912
Trolled hard!

>>10470919
I was in the middle of a game of mahjong (which I lost because of you) when I typed it.

>>10470924
EPIC WIN

>>10470912

I use ITH and TA to this very day. There is always some kanji you don't know yet. TA is a godsend if you use it with common sense (i.e. not like a universal translator). Stop being elite over silly things.

>>10470921
No, looking at Japanese text is forbidden, machine translations only. I read part of Muramasa that way too, before going over it properly. It is more entertaining than you'd think.

I think I'll try F/SN next.

>>10470943
>machine translations only.
Tried that once, gave me a massive headache.

>>10470943
Many of the games were more interesting before I knew what they were saying. The problem is that machine translators do well enough for normal stuff (high school pure love cash ins). So it isn't entertaining at all.
You need crazy off the wall stuff. The more humor/slang/mecha the better.

>>10470897
>the story isn't bad.

It has a story? I remember it as a chain of h-scenes. But yeah, it's really easy to read.

Ren'ai 0 Kilometer is also very easy. The character routes suck, though. Flyable Heart is a bit harder to read than your average moege, imo.

This thread is going places

For some reason, it's extremely difficult to come across any VN in EGS that doesn't have the tag テンポ悪い.
I end up never playing anything because of it.

>>10470970
Care to give couple examples of ones with good tempo then, according to EGS of course?

>>10470970
That's one of those tags you actually have to read the comments for to make use of. You will always find at least one person who thought it was bad in any vn.
Either ignore it unless it is overwhelmingly high/common or find users that share similar tastes to you and see what they say.

You might as well be dropping games if they have one heroine archtype (tsundere, imouto, etc) you don't like. Even better on hero descriptions with nice or popular being by far the most common.

>>10471004
Come to think of it, if I dropped every game with a tsundere or extension of the type and an imouto character, my play history would be like 1/50th of what it is, and I would have only played one (possibly two) of my favorite games. Add childhood friend to the filter and I'd have played like 10 games total, the majority of which would be doujin.

Finished ラスト・ピュリファイ. I still get the feeling that it's the same old Equilibrium, but without cool superheroes like Christian Bale since it's utsuge. Vn is somehow childish, it really bothers me: characters discuss utopian ideas and then do moe things, that feels out of place. Also, drama. A lot of it. So I wouldn't recommend anybody to spend about 12 hours of their life on such a thing. It's enjoyable and the main character(his development) is nicely done, but overall that work lacks to be good. 6/10

>>10471072
The fuck, are you me? I'm playing that game right now and had the exact same thoughts.

I'm like half way through it and am really underwhelmed. I loved the hell out of text book of evil, but this one is really weak.

>>10471076
The later part of LP is better. Actually, there is a good end after your first completion, but it's a sweet shit to wash away aftertaste of normal end. Like that good ending from swag song.

>>10471076
Also, I haven't read textbook of evil. Is it good? I see there some ryukishi style on screenshots.

>>10471121
It's thematically consistent and relatively concise. The actual content is both relevant and interesting. That being said, it isn't heavy socio-political stuff (deliberately, as indicated in the post script), it just touches on some of the concepts. I really liked it because it was self contained, well organized, and just outright interesting so I'd recommend it. That being said, the contents are partially objective partially subjective, the author clearly used the game as a catalyst to express his thoughts, which gives it a distinct color and element of sincerity, but conversely might put off people. Also, the ending is kind of rushed (some major event that consolidates and wraps up the thematic elements happens, but it isn't narrated, and the result is flat out unrealistic, simple idealism, since the only critic of the author's thoughts is his image of society. The earlier episodes are kind of weak compared to 3-5 so stick with it if you do pick it up.

Personally, I gave it an 8/10 and think it's worth playing. It's by far my favorite work from insider. I don't think it deserves a single point more than that though.

>>10471072
>>10471076
Yeah Last Purify was kind of average, I was kind of disappointed too since it had some pretty good ratings in vndb but I guess it's just a case of differing taste
Hard to find people with taste similar to your own.

She's the best even when it isn't her route. Good thing I saved a couple of after stories for before rakuen, great refresher.

Do the perfect edition of little busters contain everything? Does it have the sex scenes?

>>10470807

>>10471359
The only thing it doesn't have, for the better, because they were terrible.

>>10471373
Why were they terrible? I keep hearing this but no has ever explained it.

>>10471380
Have you never read a sex scene in a key VN or soemthing?

>>10471391
No.

>>10471400
Great for you, then.

>>10471409
Is it really that bad? MOON is fappable.

Sex scenes are mostly all badly written. I usually skip them in most games anyway because they're tedious.

>>10471422
Anything is fappable as long as you're horny enough.

>>10471440
It's rather difficult to describe explicit sex without it sounding stupid, I think. If the art is good enough and I like the characters, fapping to sex scenes can be very enjoyable.

>>10471472
Ah, this. Well putl

>>10471422
I fapped to Moon as well, but LB really is that bad. Key is one of those companies that really needs to stick to all-ages.

Are there any popular VN, with a modern Japanese setting, and a protagonist in his thirties or older?

Just curious.

>>10471520
Isaku series

>>10471520
I don't remember the age of the protagonist in Damekoi but he's not a highschooler.

>>10471520
In damekoi the MC is 29, close enough.

>>10471520
Mid-twenties protagonists are basically treated about ten years older than they are anyway. The Reminiscence protagonist looks and acts about 35 but is supposedly 23.

>>10471516
The problem with all-ages is the inevitable case of blue balls and possibly also incompleteness. Rewrite has some pretty lewd official art, which ends up feeling like they are explicitly teasing you with "You will never see a pixelized chicken leg smash into your favorite heroine's tomato" or something. And maybe this is just me, but by now it just feels like there's something missing if there's no sex scenes in a VN, though somewhat ironically I'm okay with mere implied sex scenes in all-ages ports.

And I guess that from a business standpoint, sex scenes are important, though KEY is still super popular anyway.

>>10471550
Are you me? I have the same exact thoughts on all age games.

>>10471550
I guess the anticipation of the sex scenes plays a part for some people, including me. When there's sex scenes, I feel like I'm playing to achieve the purpose of seeing them, even if the plot is much more interesting/important and they end up being really underwhelming. It's a difficult feeling to describe. I certainly don't mind non-h VNs though.

>>10471550
For almost any other company I would agree with you. But Key's H-scenes are so atrociously bad that I'd honestly rather they just didn't. H-scenes in Rewrite wouldn't have worked out anyway, for a variety of reasons.

>>10471550
>And maybe this is just me, but by now it just feels like there's something missing if there's no sex scenes in a VN, though somewhat ironically I'm okay with mere implied sex scenes in all-ages ports.
I'm the exact same way. It's weird. I don't know if I spoiled myself with by reading moege where each heroine has like 5 h-scenes or what. It's fine if it's just implied like you said, but if they never bring it up, I just can't be satisfied. I never even fap to vanilla h-scenes so I don't know what my problem is.

>>10471576
Akane's route hinted them enough, but you can't really fit them in half the routes.

>>10471440
>badly written

Oh please.
And I guarantee that preserving the narrator's voice, editing words and syntax until the reader don't feel bothered on these scenes, takes triple the time and patience of a normal one.

>>10471570
>>10471579
It's like some sort of prize or proof that you "won". When the protagonist finally has sex with the heroine, it means that his effort paid off and now has the right to say that he got into the final stages of their relationship.

>>10471628
That sounds about right, if there's no sex or even a kiss it doesn't feel like there's much of an accomplishment.

With that said, in anime/manga/ln mediums you can take years of build up to... get a kiss and perhaps a confession if you're lucky.

What I'd like to see more of are epilogues or whatever that show the protag and heroine still in a stable relationship some years later. Sex is all good and well, but seeing a successful long-term relationship come out of it is very satisfying for me.

>>10471639
I think this is a large part of the reason why SAO is so popular. Kirito gets to the home plate with Asuna in the first volume.

I enjoy ero scenes.

But I don't like that romance is implemented to enable them in plot oriented games, and I dislike it even more when scenario games are structured have character routes to enable that romance instead of just retelling the story. Usually it's irrelevant anyway though, but I don't see the necessity. Imo Asairo is a great example of handling it in a non disruptive fashion. Though I kind of regret not being able to see Harutsuge's bust. Fan disks are a perfectly appropriate place to put extra h scenes that didn't really belong there in the first place as well.

>>10471645
It's sometimes depressing if they jump too far and go to see how they died however.

>>10471628
>>10471639
Yeah. I play a lot of all-ages PSP games and sometimes they are just so unsatisfying. I've noticed otome games especially have like a quick peck on the lips as the climax a lot of times. I can only remember one where it was pretty much outright stated they fucked. I guess I should expect that since they're otome games after all, but I still don't like it.

>>10471656
I've never actually come across that.

>>10471663
The only one I've seen is from Grisaia Amane's ending

>>10471656
>>10471663
I guess Amane Route in Grisaia or something? I really liked how they showed that, though.

>>10471655
>and I dislike it even more when scenario games are structured have character routes to enable that romance instead of just retelling the story.
Same here. I'm pretty sure I've said the exact same thing before but I'll say it again, I wish more plot-focused games had endings based around the actions you made, instead of Heroine A end, Heroine B end, etc. Sometimes it feels like heroine routes or even romance altogether is unnecessary in the story.

>>10470907
こころ isn't that hard as far as novels go. It's known for having simple language.

>>10471657
You'd think there'd be more otoge with sexual content. Does the target audience just not want to see anything too lewd?

>>10470902
When it came out it was the first VN I tried to read entirely in moon. Tried being the key word here. Oh boy, was that a ride.

>>10471695
It's weird because I've played some BL games and those are pretty lewd. Maybe girls are uncomfortable with it if they're actually self-inserting into the protagonist? And even if a game does have h-scenes, most of them are terrible anyway. The best ones are in the Tiaramode games, and the h-scenes are pretty much all those games have going for them.

>>10471695
Half of the ones I play have this pseudo rape innuendo scene you just know it'd be full blown sex in a +18 PC release.
I suppose the readers just enjoy being dominated more than the actual sex, which makes it easier for all ages.

The skipping function in KnS 2 is really a chore, I ended up just re-reading the text all over again since I forgot to save last time. I still haven't gotten really far though.

>>10471724
It needs a patch to improve performance in general.

Are there any mahou shoujo VNs that aren't shitty nukiges?

>>10471768
Sumaga?

>>10471768
Twinkle Crusaders, Nanatsuiro Drops.

>>10471768
Puricchi.

>>10471768
Twinkle Crusaders

Oh god this cat or rather this VN in general.

Having great fun playing Daitoshokan at the moment.

>>10471768
Twinkle Crusaders, Princess Witches.

are they any VNs where the girls literately compete for your affection?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMgQ_wDzs
1:33

Looking at the walkthrough, does anyone have a recommended first route for Daitoshokan? I see there seems to for some reason be two endings with the second one locked on first play for the main heroines so I'm unsure how I should deal with the routes.

>>10471856
you might want to wait a couple of weeks for lovegressive, the shtick is that all heroines are assertive in chasing you

>>10471883
Not him, but I just looked at that and it seems the only girl that interested me isn't a heroine. Goddammit.

>>10471879
It's a charage, so do the heroines in any order you like, you don't even need to do them all.

>>10471924
I'm fine with that but what's the difference between ending 1 and 2?

>>10471879
OFFICIAL ROUTE ORDER RECOMMENDATION:
-Whoever you like most (besides Kodachi)
-Whoever the fuck you want
-Kodachi
-Whoever the fuck you want

How is Jisatsu no Tame no 101 no Houhou compared to other titles in the same genre. Though I say other titles, what I really mean is Sayonara wo Oshiete and, kind of, Subahibi.

Ok this is going to sound pretty stupid but I can't remember the time period chaos head took place in, was it 2009 or later?

>>10471804
Stop stealing my waifu.

>>10471804
Stop stealing my waifu.

>>10471827
You can have Ringo though, Kururu and Karen are where it's at for me.

>>10471768
Akatoki is pretty fun too.

This CG sweems like it'd belong to a blackmailing/rape/ntr VN, it's just creepy.

>>10471929
The second branches of Kodachi's/true route.
It's short and more a 図書部's than individual end, but each has a H-scene and opens extras.

>>10467046
>>10467068

I've made a little progress into the first game now. I never knew reading a description of a guy helping his nee-san change her clothes could make me this hard.

>>10472211
If you dont have one of these then you can't have her as your waifu.
(Is not like I like her or anything anyways...)
Lolotte is and always will be the best Ryuusei Crusader.

W-why....

I think the translation of Ataraxia is almost done, so I'm looking forward to that.

>>10472697
Holy shit, source?

Anyway here's my question about Virtue's last reward's endings: which ones are useful in order to understand the story?
I don't know if I want to read 24 endings knowing that half of them are "useless", but there's no walkthrough saying which one is useful and which not.
I know you have to play all of them in order to unlock the true ending, but a friend of mine will play them (we share the psvita) so I can just skip the useless.
Thanks in advance.

Oh~ Clicking "Random Visual Novel" at VNDB sometimes gives something that look good...
「あかときっ!!-花と舞わせよ恋の衣装」
How is this? Is it another just for H Visual novel like Mahou Shoujo no Taisetsu na Koto?
Also, if anyone have Prism ☆ Magical share please... My torrent is stucked at 93%

>>10472765
>Prism ☆ Magical

I can upload it if necessary, but it looks like there's a (barely) live torrent on Nyaa.

http://sukebei.nyaa.eu/?page=torreinfo&tid=31997

The new Leyline is my favorite for January. I was looking forward to it a lot after the trial, but I didn't expect to like it that much. Now here's to a long wait for the third installment.

>>10472896

Whatever, I uploaded it anyway.

http://sukebei.nyaa.eu/?page=torreinfo&tid=222041

>>10472765
I mentioned it >>10472214

It's alright. Not as fun as Kurukuru, but the plot is apparently better.

As for PriMagi, I only have DDL. This worked for me though.

Tinyurl link: azlg7lu

>>10472601
I wish I had a Kurukuru plushie.

>>10472896
>>10472974
Thanks... Is scary how it has 8+ leechers already.
>>10473007
Oh ! I'm downloading Akatoki right now.
Thanks! guys!

How is the actual gameplay in Twinkle Crusaders? I've heard it mentioned a lot so I was thinking about playing it.

>>10472917
I want to fuck the pair of them.

I played the translated demo a long time ago and loved the characters and the groundhog day concept behind it. However, could not find the full version for don't even know how long. A apologise for asking, but maybe someone can give a hint where I could get it, preferably digitally? The 3-game nyaa torrent dies at 92.5%.

>>10473043
I thought it was pretty fun. See for yourself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg2OOHiUQ

Madou Koukaku trial when?

>>10473043
Simplistic but fun. It's better to watch or try for yourself though, rather than listen to an explanation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZZPdmNws
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z5Te7798

>>10473044
Me too. Various screenshots that people have posted of Leyline have convinced me to play it, but I want to wait til the third game is released so I can read all of them in succession.

>>10473054
>>10473059
Thanks, that actually looks pretty fun. I usually avoid VNs with gameplay, or skip it if there's an option, but maybe I'll give this one a try. Also, am I crazy or why were there characters from other VNs in the character select screen?

>>10473043
If you're the kind of people who likes to see high numbers as damage then this game is for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAUfyMcaY

>>10473111
Guest characters.

The whole plot of Starlit Brave on the PSP is that random characters from other worlds get thrown into the Kurukuru-verse because of the Recrea phenomenon. The main character literally wakes up with Taiga sleeping next to him.

The PC version, Starlit Brave Xtream, removes the plot and the anime characters (recycling most of their moves to others), but adds other VN guests. There's also the Princess Witches crossover in Passion Star Stream.

More info: http://7nightstranslations.wordpre.com/2012/04/14/twinkle-%E2%98%86rusaders-part-ii/

>>10473111
I think it lets you skip all the battles after you do them once. Also, I'm pretty sure they have characters from Princess Witches in PSS

>>10473140
Thanks for the info. That sounds pretty interesting, I've never read anything with crossovers like that.

>>10473168
If you're interested, I also have a playthrough of the entirety of Starlit Brave uploaded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFRDx_4yU&list=PLE502B9E90795900A&inx=1

>>10473179
You should do voice over translations. The girls' voices will of course have to be falsetto.

>>10473744
seconded

Just finished the extra epilogue to Kazusa's normal ending in WA2. Going to save my impressions til I play Kazusa true (I picked up the PS3 version while I was in the middle of it. But before then, I feel comfortable saying that the PS3 version isn't worth buying if you've played the original, and if I had to pick between advising someone to play the original and this one, I'd go with the 18+. First because the additional content is very meagre, the animated tachi-e are not at all visually appealing, and awkward (I like mouth movement and blinking, however), and also because the ero scenes in WA2 fucking mattered. In the PS3 version, all of the ero scenes happened, they were just never depicted. Kasuza normal really suffered from the lack of it, since you didn't see all of the steps in Haruki's downfall, and that fleeting month long paradise lost some of its immerse value.

However, Setsuna. Even though she's not my favorite character, she's one of the most vivid, mufti-facted, intricate characters among charage, I have in my memory. I don't usually like this stuff at all, I hate the hell out of Haruki, but WA2 is a ridiculously powerful and memorable game, I really have to recognize Maruto's talent here. I had much more fun playing Parfait and Damekoi, but I definitely recognize the merciless barrage of both quality and strong drama here.

If only Haruki weren't such a piece of shit. Contradictory given the plot and theme, but I've never thought once during this game that he handled the hand(s) dealt to him well.

>>10473868
Man, Setsuna was the one character in that game I hated more than Haruki. Her archetype is the worst. I can't stand that sort of fundamentally selfish "good girl," dumping guilt on everyone else for not being playing the exact roles she wants them to her happy princess fantasies.

Kazusa True is by far the most satisfying part of the game just because you see Setsuna fall the fuck apart.

>>10473896
Setsuna is my char in WA2.
It's Kasuza that pisses me off, especially in Kasuza normal.

>>10473968
>>10473896
>>10473868

Seeing how divisive this game's characters are is kind of interesting. I personally liked all the characters, ESPECIALLY Haruki. Yes, he's a piece of shit, but that's just part of his character. Complaining about him being a piece of shit is like complaining of Evangelion's Shinji being a crybaby. IMO, his narrative voice was the backbone on which the drama was able to develop so well. Without his voice, the game would've just been a directionless and arbitrary melodrama.

I was playing a game right now and a new character came appeared with an all new BGM. Except it wasn't new, it was a remix of atmosphere music from Akagi. I wonder how often this happens, I swear to god every game I play has a BGM that I am familiar with.

>>10474146
Oh yeah. And Setsuna is probably the most interesting heroine I've seen in a VN. She had a huge presence in all three parts of the game, but I just couldn't figure her out. She scared me.

>>10474146
Yeah, I don't really mind piece of shit characters when they're actually INTENDED to be pieces of shit. The worst is when the protagonist is meant to be a blank self-insert yet you end up hating him as a person. Sometimes I feel like protagonists can be straight-up assholes to the heroines, I don't know if the writers are trying to portray them as tsukkomi or what. Anyway I didn't hate Haruki because I felt like his personality flaws were intentional.

>>10474152
The only times that has ever really bothered me were with Muramasa when for the fights before I stopped reading where the bgm sounded like part of a Dream Theater song looped with a random flute thrown in, and then that Pajamas Soft game that was released last month.

>>10470890
It's bad enough that this fucking question gets asked in every thread, but it's already been asked in this one. You seem to have poor reading skills in general so don't count on any VN being easy.

>>10473968
I agree, but Kazusa pissed me off generally outside of Setsuna true. I just can't see her actions in a good light all things considered.

>>10474194
what?

>>10470890
What?
I started reading with about 350 kanji and had no problem whatsoever. No, I didn't have to search every little thing in dictionary (because I understood it without these little things). Rance 6 was my first VN.
That was two years ago, I guess. Never used any machine translators, just me and Wakan.

>>10474762
>2 years ago
You make me feel old thx anon....

>>10474762
Not very subtle.

>>10474146
>>10474174
Yeah, from a plot perspective, I don't mind Haruki at all, him being the way he is was totally necessary for White Album 2 to be as powerful as it is. I think one of his saving graces was that most of anger was directed at him criticizing himself. I especially didn't mind it in Kazusa normal, rather that was probably my favorite route, since the contents there were so consistent with everyone's character.

That being said though, I wished that he was a bit more assertive to get shit done. Even if the result was fine and thematically consistent, three years, a sixth of his life at the time, is a long time to be sitting around doing nothing, but also, even according to himself was unforgivable. Setsuna really was kind of an angel in the end to tolerate that happening (even though her toleration was a mix of her issues and that she genuinely loves him). Also in Mari's route he was just outright pathetic. When Haruki actually did something, for better of for worse like Kazusa normal, I liked him more.

>>10474159
You really should play or watch that extra episode in the PS3 version. (Only a spoiler if you haven't played the original) It covers the events between Kazusa normal and the epilogue, so after Haruki psuedo breaks up with her at the concert. Haruki steps off the stage drowning in misery, and the narrative happens from Kazusa and Setsuna's perspective. While Setsuna tries to clean up Kazusa's mess, you really get some insight into what she's going through and what she's thinking throughout the game. Personally, I liked Setsuna all around to begin with, but now that I've played that, I can really recognize her as being one of the most intricate heroines I've ever seen in a charage. Even if it was really short, it was also really dense with content.

>>10474886
>even though her toleration was a mix of her issues and that she genuinely loves him
My favourite part with Setsuna, by far, is right at the end of her true route in coda where Haruki goes and tells her it's enouygh, the n she proceeds to beat the shit out of him for the shit she had to go through. I only liked her even more after that.

I wonder if they will eventually release an updated PC version with the PS3 version's extra content. I wouldn't mind re-reading the entire thing again one day.

>>10472917
Yeah, word. It was so nice to have a game where the male characters are actually just as attractive as the heroines for once.

>>10472917
Yeah, word. It was so nice to have a game where the male characters are actually just as attractive as the heroines for once.

>>10474993
... What the fuck?

It was a great VN alright, though I liked Daitoshokan more when talking about the best of January.

There was a vn recommendation thread going on a while back so I decided to download ever17.
Just got done and I see no iso files whatsoever, how the fuck am I meant to mount it when theres nothing to mount it with? it keeps asking for disc 1 when I try and install it.
Help, anyone?

>>10475016
Just try running the exe.

>>10475027
Yeah I realized that right after I posted.
I sure am retarded.

>>10475029
No you not anon, take it easy.

>>10474886
>Setsuna really was kind of an angel in the end to tolerate that happening
I think Setsuna was part of the problem. Haruki couldn't stand being with her which is why he ran away. If she had properly dumped him and cursed him out for being the dirtbag that he is, they both could've moved on a lot sooner.

>You really should play or watch that extra episode in the PS3 version. (Only a spoiler if you haven't played the original)
I think you're the same Anon that told me this before. Unfortunately, I don't have a PS3 nor do I ever plan on getting one.

>>10474903
Interesting. Maybe I should finish reading Setsnua's coda route after all. I dropped it halfway through because it was turning into a ridiculous love comedy.

>>10475417
>it was turning into a ridiculous love comedy.
It was only mirroring the first half of IC, just like Kazusa's routes do with its second half.

>Haruki couldn't stand being with her which is why he ran away
He wanted to be with her, which was the thing, but Kazusa and his feelings for her always get in the way, which makes for super drama and he tends to choose her.
Anyway, Setsuna always felt more like a main character to me than just a heroine, which is more Kazusa's role.

The writing in this part was so good

Can someone please make a new thread? I'm too scared to do it myself.

>>10475516
New thread

>>10475499
I really liked all the stories Yuuji told to Makina, he is a great storyteller.