/jp/ - Otaku Culture

That has to be some cruel joke

It would be on the opposite side of the country from me.

I guess /jp/ will have to stop playing it now, its confirmed for 100% mainstream.

Cool, ZUN will be in the same state as me.

Didn't he go to AX last year or something?

Well, Murricans, I guess you'll have a reason to go visit a con for once.

WHAT

ZUN gets a taste of the western fandom in as little as seven months

Is this good? Doesn't sound good. Fuck.

Can any of you guys drive me and buy me a ticket? I'm only a few states away.

Touhou's over, everyone go home.

>>10450685
>can you even be more weeb
he could be you lol

/sp/artan here, this nerd is famous because moot had a beer with him? /jp/ is lame as fuck LOL

>>10450680
>>10450674
Touhou being extremely popular in Japan... good.
~100 people getting to know what Touhou is in America... bad

can you even be more weeb

>>10450685
It was a "joke", dork.

>>10450651
/jp/ meetup?

>>10450685
Do you really trust Americans?

>>10450666
It won't be that bad, I'm sure your average con goer won't somehow fuck it up.

>>10450693
/jp/ - My First Troll

>>10450693

>>10450695
What could POSSIBLY happen? There are surely over a billion of random obscure fuckers visiting cons, and ZUN will be just another one of them for the vast majority of western weebs

>>10450705
>western weebs
>western
>weebs

I'm going to dress up as Mima and punch him in the face.

>>10450705
I'm sure there will be a couple of awkward fucks trying to act funny around him. Not a big fan of those.

Thats just over 4 and a half hours away. Not quite worth it.

If I had the money, this would be the first convention I'd attend. What will be he doing? Will people attending be able to speak with him?

I'd try smuggling in beer to give to him if possible. I'd like to invite him to some local breweries so he can drink some world-class local American beer. I hope he enjoys his trip to the US.

>>10450723
It would be cool to have a drink with him.

He'll unveil a new character that has the ability to manipulate clapping.

On the bright side, only the worst of the western fanbase goes to conventions, and maybe it'll cause him to be dislike Americans even more.

>>10450730
Nice joke man I laughed 10/10 my sides screencap this and have moot sticky it!

AWA is a good convention, although it pales in comparison to things like Otacon or Comicon. The Touhou fans that run the Touhou panels at AWA, from the years I've been going, are all a groovy group of people. There's /jp/ people that help support it well - lots of fans, easily more than 100, will be at that panel. There were so many people at the last con they made two panels and couldn't fit everyone into both of them. But why would he come to the states? Does he even speak enough English or have his own translator?

>>10450734
This is good, I hope he makes his dislike obvious.
I don't expect it to discourage secondaries though.

There will probably be a lot of young girls at this convention who are cosplaying as Touhou characters, and like all of the girls there, will have sex with anyone. I wonder if ZUN is coming because of that.

>>10450752
>There's /jp/ people that help support it well
absolutelydisgusting.jpg

>>10450752
>/jp/ people
>support
>panel
>convention

Those are not real Scotsmen.

>>10450784
/jp/ lies a lot though to make people think worse of them and scare away normals.

one thread a while ago revealed that roughly half of the posters were employed.

When will he be coming to Canada?

>>10450788
I guess that makes sense, we have disgusting people such as milk pretending to fit in after all.

>>10450788
Yeah big surprise half of /jp/ pretends to be NEETs.

>>10450789
How is Canadian beer culture compared to American beer culture?

>>10450794
Better.

>>10450793

hey ill have you know ive been neet for almost 1/4th of the year when im not in school

Well fuck, for one time I wish I lived in the USA, lucky faggots.

Be sure to get a good record of anything this man says and hope not much retards give him a bad impression of the western fandom.

>hurr durr TRUEjp doesn't go to conventions by/for dirty niwaka otaku

Suck a cock.

>>10450797
I don't believe it.

>>10450802
Habeeb it

>>10450794
Beer in the states is cheaper, but I dunno what brands you guys get?
Also how about amercian-made vodka vs canadian vodka? Though to me most vodka tastes the same anyways.

>>10450794
There is a noticeable syrupy viscosity.

>>10450811
It depends heavily on where you are in the US. Nationwide you can get stuff from the bigger companies like Coors, Budweiser, ect, but the better beers, the ones that win awards, are made in local breweries and aren't commonly available further than a state away from the original brewery, if that.

A lot of countries have stuff like this though, but that's how it is in the US.

O-oh gosh! I might have to go. The opportunity to meet ZUN and show my appreciation for his games and music won't likely come again!

I'm tempted to cosplay as Youki or Genji..

>>10450855
You should cosplay as a heterosexual.

>>10450855
Make sure to offer something like a bottle of alcohol to show respect.

I feel bad that for ZUN's first U.S. foray it's going to be in Atlanta of all places. He's going to think the rest of the U.S. is like Atlanta.

>>10450868
Well it's not like he's planning to move to America.

>>10450868
Atlanta isn't that bad as long as you like gays and niggers.

Nobody in Merica really even knows what Touhou is

AWA isn't even as popular as AnimeExpo or Ohiyacon or Mtac

I live in bama i'll probably go just to spite /jp/ i'll ask him which 2hu wud he fuck, and say (9) is a baka, and youmu is a dork etc.

He'll then regret coming to america and forbid Touhou anything ( including doujin ) be sold outside Japan

>>10450869
He's probably going to make a black touhou afterwards

>>10450855
Bring him some steam beer if you do go.

>>10450875

AWA has like three times the attendance of MTAC yo

>>10450875
good thing we don't buy anything amirite

>>10450876
No thanks I like my white touhous.

In body in the area make sure to dress up a PC-98 characters only I want ZUN to feel this

he'll see them and be like "Oh right I need to put those characters back in a new game"

>>10450875
>forbid Touhou anything ( including doujin ) be sold outside Japan
That's already the case, but I support your plans.

>>10450895
you need to watch ZUN and if he's ever at a raised place position yourself below him, raise your arms, and yell MIMA!

Last year I wrote ZUN a letter and said please come to America so you're welcome.

>>10450905

I would if I was a girl and had the outfit

>>10450909
tthank you

I thought touhou was old and busted
>2hu cosplayers

ZUNs going to meet so many people that dont play his games. It's kinda sad knowing all these disgusting gaijin think its an anime

>>10450990
How is that even possible? People constantly compare touhou to mlp

>>10450993
Isn't MLP an anime?

>>10450997
neither belong on /jp/ ponyfags leave us alone /a/ is the one you want.

>>10450706
What, you think there are no eastern weebs? Russia is full of them.

>>10451000
There is own board for them you

>>10451000
Hey, /v/, nobody cares about your stupid witch hunts, go back to your home board if you want to throw a fit anytime someone mentions something you don't like.

>>10451010
oh yeah they'll definitely stay right there lets all thank moot for saving us with his policy of bending over and getting reamed on demand.

First question thats gonna be asked to ZUN is gonna be "Y IS CIRNO SUCH A BAKA!!!!" you know it to be true /jp/

>>10451011
please be an adult and consider what i said, /jp/ isn't for anime so arguing about fuzzy lines between it and MLP is surely not board related.

>>10451017
We can recover, can't we? Please tell me we can, anon.

of all the cons..Why AWA?
it's in the south in Atlanta Georgia...full of blacks and rednecks.
Not to say that I'm not excited, but I am surprised

>>10451025
Secondaries gonna be secondaries, you can't do anything about that.

>>10451021
I considered what you said and I see nothing but an attempt to derail the thread because someone mentioned a name of something you don't like, even though the discussion was fully relevant to the topic of both the thread and the board. Go rage about taboo words somewhere else.

>>10451017

This reminds me of one con where they were having a panel and that 15 year old cosplayer who visited /jp/ was there as Cirno and just kept on yelling out random stupid shit during it.

>>10451029
never said i didn't like it. just trying to prevent the imposssible shitstorm that happened not even a day ago.

but you couldn't appreciate that, you're probably a migrant.

>>10451017
Probably something related to "why doesn't Flan-chan appear in any new games?" will be asked. After all, all secondaries want Flandre in everything Touhou related.

>>1045104
>trying to prevent the imposssible shitstorm that happened not even a day ago

No, that's what I'm doing. You're trying to cause it to happen again, /v/-kun. Leave.

>>10451042
>trying to prevent the imposssible shitstorm that happened not even a day ago

No, that's what I'm doing. You're trying to cause it to happen again, /v/-kun. Leave.

>>10451046
Forget all secondaries & tertiaries, what could tru-/jp/ gonna ask? More Mima, no?

Just stop the elitist faggotry now and let's discuss "why ZUN's actually looked up to Western fandom" topic with warm and elegantly like /jp/ used to, anon-kun.

>>10451121
I will ask him to make more material that uses SDM characters.

>>10451121
ZUN looks to western fans because he hopes to sell more games that way.

>>10451127
I really like Sakuya but I implore you to reconsider.

>>10451121
Ask him if Miko really is as strong as she seems.

>>10451127
Seconded

>>10451127
I mean, SDM characters other than Flandre.

>>10451152
Every other SDM character has had several appearances after EoSD, however.

BRING BACK NAZRIN

>>10451121
Tru /jp/ would ask for more Chireiden.

>>10450993
A good amount of people who are "into Touhou" only watch the IOSYS/other extremely popular flashes and read the bkub comics. It's pretty much guaranteed that someone is going to ask why there isn't an anime or at something about the unofficial anime, ZUN will respond with something about the games, then no one in the room will know what he's talking about.
Also, most of these people are only aware of the EoSD (excluding Ruima, Koakuma, Daiyousei)/PCB cast and will only talk about them. I've met a couple of people who pronounce Cirno as "sir-no".

>>10451253
It IS cirno but japanese pronunciation.

>>10451253
>I've met a couple of people who pronounce Cirno as "sir-no".
How do you pronounce her name is English, then? Cheer-uh-no?

>>10451255
Actually, It would be closer to "Tsir-no"

>>10451255
I was not aware that チ is pronounced as シ just because of English.

People worried about Americans con fans ruining everything need to keep in mind that the states produce far fewer rape doujinshi of his characters than his home country.

Outside of someone intentionally throwing a massive shitfit just to be an asshole, the worst that will happen is that he'll get pestered by Mima questions all weekend.

>>10451266
how is cir anything like chi? I get it that its read like chi-ru-no as a pun in japanese but it`s spelled Cirno which isnt a japanese word.

>>10451270
>implying the western fanbase knows who Mima is

ZUN will be bombarded with questions about Cirno and Flandre because shithead secondaries love them

>>10451270
Wishful thinking.

Most of the "Touhou-fans" are like he >>10451253 described.
It's horrifying. Zun is going to deal with Walfasfags and their wacky Touhoumemes and will wonder what the fuck is wrong with those people

>>10451272
But it's spelled チルノ

>>10451279
Exactly, which is why I'm questioning as to why people pronounce it was sir-no.

>>10451278
He's used to it at home, why would it bother him?

>>10451285
It is customary to adapt the pronunciation of foreign names. Can you share your opinion on proper pronunciation of パチュリー・ノーレッジ?

>>10450707
Good luck, anon. You're an example to us all.

I'm scared that someone will shoot him

>>10451314

>>10451314

They're holding this event in a hotel, not a school.

>>10451334
But still it's a god dam hotel I doubt it would require much man power to smuggle a gun inside.

>>10451322
Fucking faggot is becoming kind of hot, makes me even more buttpained.

>>10451336

I still think your paranoia is ill-founded.

>>10451336
Actually conventions are very strict when it comes to weapons, whether they're obviously fake or not. Most of the time they don't let you bring in gun-esque things in the first place, and I'm fairly sure it's the same with swords/knives/"yaoi paddles".

>>10451339
They'll hide them under their 16 layers of trench coats.

>>10451339
What if someone planned ahead and planted the gun in a hotel room, before the convention started?

>>10451348
That would qualify them too clever to actually attend cons.

Atlanta is pretty close to me, I'd like to go there and see Zun.

I'm still a little sad that I didn't meet him in germany, my city is famous for it's beer.

Oh well

>>10451363
I'm surprised he didn't stay there forever.

I'd go, but I'd probably just sit quietly in a corner for a few hours then go home.

>>10451369
Maybe we can convince someone to go and live blog the panel. Apparently people here are involved in this shit (>>10450752), so they might be willing to.

>$30
Fucking Jews.

>>10451378
He needs drinking money.

ZUN doesn’t hate or dislike foreigners.

>>10451387
Not yet.

The hotel they are hosting the convention in is cheaper to room in than their partnered hotel....

>>10451388
It's not like he's not used to obnoxious Japanese fans.

He can't speak english

>>10451121
>More Mima, no?
Well if tru-/jp/ means the two MIMA! posting sheep.

>>10451279
I find the thought of someone pronouncing it in the japanese spelling comical.

>>10451339
you do realize that most of our recent mass shootings have occured in "no gun" zones, right? if someone is out to shoot someone else a sign or a rule isn't going to stop them. the only way you'll know they have a firearm is if they whip it out because hotels and convention centers do not have metal detectors.

i mean, i carry a knife all the time at conventions and no one knows til i pull it out to cut something and then put it away. so far anyone who has seen me cut something hasn't given a fuck about it either, actually.

>>10451121
True /jp/ would just let this genius do his work since you'd know that he doesn't gives a fuck anyways

>>10451407
> so far anyone who has seen me cut something hasn't given a fuck about it either, actually.

They were probally just scared about that weird stranger with a knife cutting random stuff

>>10451416
more like opening packages or cutting food

Fuck, time to find a new series to weeb on

>>10451436
Oh I see.
The thought of some /jp/sie walking around conventions with a creepy smile on his face while cutting stuff like a maniac seemed more likely to me than someone who works at a con

>>10451441

I'd wager that a considerable number of /jp/ browsers aren't antisocial NEETs.

>>10451447
I'd like to believe otherwise, but I guess that's the price we have to pay for not being flooded by pigspam

>>10451447
and regrettably you'd make a tidy profit

>>10451436
>using the same knife to cut food that you use to open packages
The fuck, man.

>>10451447
60% of us are in students, 30% working.

Not joking.

i can't even fucking figure out when it is

>>10451461
oh there it is

>>10451456
I am the 10%

>>10451465
Me too, lets send poisoned booze to ZUN

Score one for black people.

Altogether the expense of such a trip might come out to four hundred dollars plus for me. I could save four times as much and head to Tokyo, but then the chances of talking to him would be few to none.

Well, have fun, Southerners.

>>10451466
I will leave my home and shoot ZUN, I will be a hero

>>10451472
I will become anti hero that stops you.

This shit's next door to me, basically.
... the amount of secondaries in Atlanta is massive. Most of the people I know don't even know of the shmups... some even think that Touhou is just a Pokemon hack.
How horrifying.

>>10451474

How the hell could they come to that conclusion?

>>10451474
Those people like actually be Quinaries, not even Quaternaries, full blown fucking Quinaries.

>>10451476

Maybe they only played the puppet play romhack?

>>10451121
I would ask if we could consider remaking the PC-98 games, but as spinoffs and not part of the main series.

>>10451478
The word you're looking for is pentaries.

Why would ZUN go to Atlanta of all places? Not only is it further away than the west coast, he's going to get shot by Tyrone or Billy Bob.

>>10451484
Oh I was just going based on quinary structures of proteins in biochemistry.

>>10451487

You're thinking of New Orleans.

ZUN will attend Bronycon.

>>10451501
He then proceeds to make a touhou pony!

>>10451507
I'd be okay with that acutally

I really like touhou and ZUN. Why must he do this to me?

>>10451514
Do what? You can't enjoy Touhou knowing that ZUN has been to America?

>>10451516
If ZUN sees the people at the con, he'll think all western touhou fans are like that.
I can't deal with that.

>>10451517
ZUN has seen his fair share of eastern Touhou fans.

What's next?
> ZUN announces the release of all Touhou games on Steam!
You always need more money to take care of a wife and (future) children, after all.

>>10451521
The only thing he's getting out of this is an all-expenses-paid trip to America.

If he's lucky he might get twenty game sales.

>>10451521

So you're going to complain endlessly about secondaries, but any effort to bring the shmups into the public eye is even worse?

>>10451521
Wow yeah sure.
Look, if ZUN really cared about money he would have sold out long long ago and would have made a touhou anime and all kind of different stuff.He even still has a regular job

He hasn't done that though, all he cares about is creating games and drinking beer

>The average AWA attendee is between 16-21 years old.

I have never been to a convention before, but I don't want to be thought of as an old fuck either.

Is sixty too old to go to a con?

>>10451528

Go for it. No-one's going to care and neither should you.

>>10451527
>Look, if ZUN really cared about money he would have sold out long long ago
Well, he's selling out right now.

>>10451528
Cosplay as Youki or Unzan and go

>>10451533

He's attending a con. Calm yourself.

>>10451533
But ZUN has gone to conventions before.

>>10451533
I'm not sure if you are actually stupid enough to believe that or if you are just playing pretend

>>10451528

If there was any way to believe you I'd find it very interesting that a 60 year old man would be going to 4chan, let alone /jp/.

>>10450685
Remember the Bad Apple CNN thing?, 2hu reached a lot of people but most of them must have dismissed it as another silly animu Japanese thing.


>>10451387
Then why does he want to keep his 2hu stuff from reaching outside Japan?. He's a racist alcoholic.


>>10451521
There is just too much porn about his games.

>>10451557
>He's a racist alcoholic
Neither of those are true, he's a beer connoisseur.

>>10451557
>Then why does he want to keep his 2hu stuff from reaching outside Japan?
He hasn't forbidden export or anything.

>>10451562
And a cosmopolitan.

>>10451542
he just wants his mom to take him

>>10451567
"Sale of works in channels that are further reaching than the distribution channels
used by the original works. The original works are primarily sold in general doujin
channels. So, please refrain from using download sales sites primarily oriented for
overseas customers, etc."

And he doesn't particularly approve of original works being translated.

>>10451589

But why would he not want to take our money?

>>10451557
> There is just too much porn about his games.
So what? His games are fully safe and extremely popular, and this is the only thing that matters. One thing I believe nobody knows is how it would affect the Japanese cult status of Touhou after the official approval of its popularization.

>>10451557
>Then why does he want to keep his 2hu stuff from reaching outside Japan?. He's a racist alcoholic.
Were he a racist alcoholic, he'd never created Touhou characters with western depiction anon-kun. Takes the example as Remiria Sukaretto, your uh, Queen.

Also, lets recall which Touhou series that made Touhou popularity boom up first.. Embodiment of the Scarlet Devil, is it? Think how many of western element put unto it.

Gensokyo was never meant as place for Asian nor Japan only, it's for everyone that considered fits to it. Who are we to judge?

>>10451589
I believe ZUN will answer, & straighten that points at the con later.

>>10451581

Oh god, that picture. Oh god, this event. I don't even like cons, but this could be my one and only chance to see ZUN in person!

>>10451604

On top of all the things you said, let's not forget the name of his one-man company; Shanghai Alice. He's been an East-meets-West kind of guy for a long while now

>>10451604
>Touhou characters with western depiction anon-kun.
This is to appeal to the japanese fanbase. They love that kind of stuff. Thats does not mean the creator has to love it. He just knows what sells.

>Gensokyo was never meant as place for Asian nor Japan only, it's for everyone that considered fits to it.
Does ZUN specifically say this? Is it canon?

>>10451604
Are you Russian?

>>10451581
Who are those two other guys drinking with ZUN? They look like completely normal people who know nothing about ZUN, touhou or japan.

>>10451581
God dammit now I want to drink with ZUN.

ZUN sure chose a poor state to visit.
I hope whoever goes to this doesn't end up embarrassing us western fans as a whole.

>>10451627
It's not his first time outside of Japan, you know.

>>10451621
Where is this being held at?

>Atlanta, Georgia

Isn't that place filled with the ghetto and niggers? Oh god this will be the most horrible first impression ZUN will ever get.

>>10451618
Do they need to, to enjoy a good pint together? ZUN isn't a walking god, he's a normal person. Not everyone wants to be treated special just because they did something notable, some people will find you obnoxious for doing so even.

>>10451628
But is this the first time in georga, home of the niggers?

>>10451613
He may appreciate some of the aspects of western and European culture, but I remember reading about him detesting the western touhou fans.

>>10451592
I don't know, you would think western companies would think twice about supporting a game which gives porn results in the first pages of image search sites.

Well, Hyperdimension made it overseas under just a bit of controversy...

But it's just that the material about Touhou Project is mostly depraved stuff.

>>10451616
>Does ZUN specifically say this? Is it canon?

Gensokyo is the place where forgotten things end up, it is canon that the SDM came in from the outside world and it's safe to say that it is western.

ZUN doesn't cares what sells or what not, he stated that he makes these games for himself.

And if he really would just care about money and pleasing fans he would include Cirno in every single game

I live in a state bordering Georgia, I could visit. Too bad I don't care enough about touhou to do so. What would I even do, ask him to draw me some 2hu p00sy?
Maybe I'll buy him a large box of Black Ice air fresheners, to clear out the smell of blacks and fatasses wearing cheap sweat stained fabrics.

>>10451627
>>10451630
>lol niggerz
>>>/pol/
>>>/b/

>>10451616
>This is to appeal to the japanese fanbase. They love that kind of stuff. Thats does not mean the creator has to love it. He just knows what sells.
And by that mindset, you're not even thinking of the possibilities that ZUN himself is fascinated to the western culture, and even giving them one whole game dedicated to the culture? I'd doubt ZUN use this as a commercial, as he's making the game for himself to play because he didn't see any game worth playing to himself as far as I've concerned.

>Does ZUN specifically say this? Is it canon?
Who is Remilia Scarlet?
Who is Hong Meiling?
Who is Marible Hearn?

You've just answered your own question.

Jesus christ I really don't get you westerner sometimes. A guy made tribute of your culture, then you deems it as negative and "japs selling point hurr durr" while the creator is doing it out of his admiration.

It's just like whining for candies when someone just gave you a goddamn free cookies.

>>10451631
But he is racists why would he even be near anyone who isnt japanese?

It simply does not make sense why why would go up to random strangers, non japanese strangers at that, for a drink. I can understand just wanting to drink but I simply cannot see ZUN going up to foreigners with a happy face and asking him to drink with him.

>>10451489
There are quinary structures for proteins? The fuck, my Anatomy 100 professor lied to me.

Now is our chance to make him never again deal with the gaijin fandom. All we need to do is spam him questions why he hasn't made an otaku touhou yet or when baka Cirno gets her own an anime. My imagination is lacking.

>>10451637
You din't refute my believes about that horrible place so I will continue to believe that place is an utter shithole and filled with gangsters and shootouts and niggers.

>>10451644
Believe what you like, just believe it at >>>/pol/.

>>10451638
I dint bother to read all your shit


Have you forgotten that ZUN said that he believes westerners wont appreciate his games like the japanese do?

>>10451649
Maybe he realized that this is not the case during his honeymoon and now he decided to give the western fandom a chance

>>10451621
He's going to nowheresville if anything he actually made the right choice he will probably meet 20 or even less fans of his franchise.

>>10451634
>He may appreciate some of the aspects of western and European culture, but I remember reading about him detesting the western touhou fans.

It's just common sense because most western fans are entitled faggots like >>10451616

>>10451634
>I don't know, you would think western companies would think twice about supporting a game which gives porn results in the first pages of image search sites.
And thank god for it. I would never hope for a Touhou game with a title named "Embodiment of Uncle Sam" or "Perfect Liberty Blossom".

>>10451656
>entitled faggots like
Explain to me why you think I am entitled? How Am I asking for some kind of reward? I am not. I am explaining why you think ZUN is one way when he is not.

>>10451639
>But he is racists why would he even be near anyone who isnt japanese?
But he's not racist.
Anyway, he's a beer lover, on his trip to Europe he obviously went to pubs to try local beers.
Old bar regulars think it's funny that a Japanese man is showing an interest for it or something, and he takes a picture with them because people take pictures like that when they travel, for memories.

Not an impossibly hard scenario to grasp.

Anime Weekend Atlanta (AWA) is a three-day Japanese Animation ("anime") and comics ("manga") convention held in Atlanta, Georgia. AWA has a wide variety of events including video room showings of Japanese cartoons from new releases and titles going back to the 1960's, a dealer's room with retailers who sell Japanese animation and manga related merchandise such as toys, videos, audio CD's and artwork, workshops, panel discussions on various anime and manga related topics, a costume contest where attendees dress up as their favorite anime or manga character, guests who have worked or currently are working in the industry. We also have musical preformers and a formal ball.

>>10451656
Holy shit, you are blowing things out of proporsition.

It doesn't matter because this will never happen.
ZUN will proceed making games for himself and not give a shit about fandom while doing so and generally take it easy

>>10451634
He's probably detest some of them, rather than in general.

>>10451659
>Not an impossibly hard scenario to grasp.
But it is. No one is that friendly in Europe. It may have been in the past but now most people just keep to themselves.

>>10451669
You've never been in a bar have you?

>>10451671
Especially in bars frequented by older men, people socialise. That's the point of it for them anyway.

>>10451634
> I don't know, you would think western companies would think twice about supporting a game which gives porn results in the first pages of image search sites.

I don't think it's a valid argument. Street Fighter has a lot of porn, but was released on Steam. The later Final Fantasy games have a ton of them, yet every single one has been released on family consoles. I'm pretty sure that Gabe and some other big cheeses in the West are well aware about what Touhou is and what it isn't. And distributing such a popular title for them would be a good money grab they will not overlook. In my understanding it's all up to ZUN himself to decide if he wants to keep the current humble doujin maker image he still has or switch it to the businessman-like personality, though I admit I don't watch it closely enough to know what his opinions on this matter are.

>>10451671
I have. And a german one at that. The only people who are friendly are the ones that people know who is who. Like a friend or a friend or relatives etc.

>>10451669
But people in Europe are at their friendliest when drinking in a pub/bar.

>>10451679
>And a german one at that
Well, Germans are assholes, everyone knows that. But even in eastern Germany I had a good time talking to some of the people there once the alcohol took away some social retardation on my point.

And a Japanese man with a funny hat asking in broken English about beers probably piques interest, you know.

>>10451679
Really?
I'm in a bar almost every friday with my little group of friends, we keep to ourself most of the time but if a funny or interesting person would come and just talk to us we'd just enjoy his company.

Especially when alcohol is involved

>>10451677
>I'm pretty sure that Gabe and some other big cheeses in the West are well aware about what Touhou is and what it isn't.

You think of them to highly.

Now I am curious. It would be nice to see what Gabe says if asked if he knows what touhou is.

>>10451679
Stop visiting shitty bars near the harbors.

>>10451589
He doesn't want secondary creations going where the originals haven't. That's hardly "racist."

>>10451649
Yes, because Westerners aren't going to get any of the cultural references, unless they're massive weeaboos (commonly found at anime conventions).

>>10451679
I thought Germans were famous for being the most dour people in the world.

>>10451663
>Explain to me why you think I am entitled? How Am I asking for some kind of reward? I am not. I am explaining why you think ZUN is one way when he is not.
Again, you've just answered your own question. You're entitled because you believes Japanese only made western references for selling points, and demanding more to "prove" that they weren't making the references out of "selling points".

ZUN is with flaws, sure, as he was human being. But most you've written, sadly, isn't even touching the base of his flaws. Instead, you're just pointing out on what his best at, that it is putting differences of culture together into something beautiful and artistic.

>>10451664
Of course he would do just that, it's just annoys me when someone tries to paints him in a bad way with the wrong ways.

>>10451694
>and demanding more to "prove"
What? No I am not? I am trying to show you that ZUN isnt this nice and wonderful guy that you want to convince yourselves he is

I think you are the kind of person who always thinks about the silver linings. Who always thinks on the bright side of thinsg. Surely ZUN cannot be this bad in real life. All the stuff I read about him simply cannot be true!

>>10451699
Some of it is, some of it isn't. "ZUN hates Westerners, he just included a Western psychology student named Maribel Hearn in the music CDs because nips eat that shit up" is pretty obviously a load of horseshit.

>>10451699
> All the stuff I read about him simply cannot be true!

If they are well based I am willing to believe the bad things but as >>10451705 said, you are just being silly

Why are some of you saying ZUN is racist? Has he done or said something which would indicate this? Is it just from the sales thing?

>>10451699
And I am here just trying to show you that ZUN isn't this bad little alcoholic Japanese that tries to take over the world with his 2hu works.

Stop convincing yourself that you're better than him, no matter how hard you try, you can't. Unless he had been in a killing spree of drunken rage, I'd doubt you could.

>>10451712
>no nigger touhous
thats why i like him because he is

>>10450752
>But why would he come to the states?

So the people at valve can have a meeting with him and try to make him sell touhou games through their platform.

>>10451699
the hanging rope have been waiting for you, anon. the depression is too much, isnt it? and no one jumped on your hating bandwagon. go ahead, we wont miss you.

>>10451713
>bad little alcoholic Japanese that tries to take over the world with his 2hu works.
I never said that. Why would I think that. ZUN does not want to take over the world with his stuff. He even prefers his products to not go outside of japan.

>>10450752
>But why would he come to the states?
Because he was curious about the Western fandom.

>>10451642

Can you please just go die in a fire?

>>10451730
No he is not. The only thing in the west maters to him and is relevant to him is the beer. Thats it

>>10451728
Your try-harding to spot him in bad lights proved otherwise, anon. Your hate for him is now too obvious and excessive to the point people could stick it up to your nose.

>>10451735
>No he is not.
Yes, he is. He has said as much. Sorry he didn't live up to your fandom-hating expectations.

I live on the west coast, so I'm too far away to go to see ZUN.

Please everyone, if you live near Georgia, or even a state away, go to AWA! We need to make sure that ZUN has a good time in America. I don't think Touhou is very popular here, so we need to make sure his panel isn't empty.

>>10451738
Looks like some people have a hard time accepting he's not the racist alcoholic they for some reason want him to be.

>>10451738
It will all ends with ZUN going home, heavily disappointed, and then proceed to drop all of the western references to the game because some nigga cosplayed as Aya.

>>10451718
Not having dark-skinned characters in his games doesn't make him racist at all. Are you going to tell me he's... whatever those Tumblr terms are for not having someone who is trans/disabled/openly gay/all of those too?

>>10451738
No he is not.
He does not hate the fandom either. The western fandom he just does not care much for. Not hate.

You all are thinking so incredibly positive about him. He is not some kind of jesus where he is nice and happy go lucky guy. He is human and likewise he has human thoughts and believes.

>>10451749
Nobody claimed that he cares about the western fandom or the fandom at at all though.

We were just speculating that he MIGHT be curious about the USA

>>10451746
I saw a photo of a black Aya of the other day. He put most of the other cosplayers to shame.

>>10451748
This is another thing. He dint grow up in politically correct america so he does not feel the need to put niggers or gays or others in his game.

>>10451749
>No he is not.
Yes, he is. He said as much. From his own mouth.

At this point you're just making shit up and you need to stop talking.

>>10451735
If he wasn't interested in Western culture and how Americans feel about his Touhous then he wouldn't go in the first place. He certainly wouldn't go for the beer, anyways.

>>10451743
Probably butthurt MLP fans, or a nips-hating westerners.

And if the latter proved to be the case, I can't even comprehend why some people is bond to hate things to death while they still can enjoy themselves in other things they'll like.

>>10451755
No he is not
You need to stop making shit up and need to stop talking you fucking cunt.

>>10451733
First, I'm going to AWA.

Here are questions that are actually something that might produce interesting answers:

- Someone has given tips to Renko about various subjects she investigates, including a picture of hakurei shrine. Who is Renko's source?

- Can we expect a return of any PC-98 characters in the near future? Byakuren confirms the existance of Makai. Can we expect some Mystic Square returnees?

- Will there ever be a rematch with the moon sisters?

- What's the connection between Eirin and Sakuya?

If he's drunk enough, he'll give some good answers. Just make sure all your questions are specific enough for him to comment on but not specific enough that he can answer them with just a yes or a no.

>>10451761
He was interviewed. I can provide a source but I'm having more fun laughing at you flail around making shit up.

>>10451749
And you're the only one thinking so incredibly negative about him. He is not some kind of anti-christ incarnate and bad-hating-racist-alcoholic Japanese.

Give it up, anon, you're starting to humiliate yourself here.

>>10451758
I am neither of those.

People are trying so hard to think that he is some ultimate nice guy with not ill thoughts whatsoever.

>>10451761
You aren't convincing anyone with your "no he's not, no he's not, no he's not!!!" posts. Why not just stop now and save your energy for something else and save the site some bandwidth?

>>10451768
The post the source then.

>>10451777
Spoonfeeding goes on /a/. Not that this thread would make anyone believe there's a difference between /a/ and /jp/. That's con-goers for you.

>>10451751
Have some 3D black Reimu

I'm excited. Fingers crossed he decides to drop some plan to allow distribution of the games stateside.
Also I like people who seem to be under the impression that Japanese cons lack perverts or freakshows... If he was gonna be scared off itd already have happened.

Why do people think ZUN hates the western fanbase? Why would he go to that con if he hates everyone there? Why would he go there if he was just interested in beer?

>>10451773
You are right he isnt some kind of anti-christ bad-hating-racist-alcoholic japanese. But he isnt perfectly nice either. You fail to realize that he isnt perfect. He will have these kind of beliefs weather you want him to or not.

>>10451784
Who claimed he was perfect?
All we're trying to get through certain heads is that he's not the racist alcoholic people portray him as.

>>10451772
Son, you really need to stop posting and get your hating steam gone with some class and works. Of course he, at some point, got some ill thoughts as he was people like us, not Jesus incarnate. But does that makes him necessarily evil? It's just fact that he never states his ill-thoughts to public like you did here because he's still got some common sense.

>>10451781
Dont worry I have no doubt you have the source. But that wont change the fact the stuff that ZUN blivets will still be the same/

>>10451788
And he isnt some perfect guy that is open to the world either.

>>10451789
He isnt evil. He isnt perfectly good either..he isnt perfectly evil... He is human. He has human thoughts and human believes.

>>10451780

I really can't bring myself to hate that person. He/she is just so cute and awkward looking

>>10451780
Black chicks who cosplay are nearly always cute in my opinion.

>>10451788
Please get acquainted with the true meaning of racism before making unbelievable claims.

>>10451789
Who ever said he's evil? You're the ones who are trying to make it look like anti-foreign comments are evil by trying to dissociate ZUN from it.

>>10451795
And nobody has claimed that ZUN is perfect, but people have claimed that ZUN is a racist alcoholic.

>>10451802
His command of vocabulary isn't anything to laugh at, though. I didn't know what a blivet was until I looked it up.

>>10451784
>beliefs
>weather
Well, looks like this ZUN hater guy is so high on something that he couldn't even spell "whether".

>>10451794
The fat nerd in the back seems shocked though.

>>10451795
>And he isnt some perfect guy
Again, no one claims he’s perfect. The original assertion was that he's racist and hates Westerners, which was disputed. Since then you have been saying "wow stop thinking he's a perfect god".

>>10451780
nigga that's kawaii
>>10451786
He doesn't really hate us, I think he's just somewhat of an isolationist. He probably just has strong connections with the Japanese fanbase and Comiket, and the idea of dealing with a bigger western audience probably feels kind of overwhelming.

Plus, think about the ways that Japanese companies have tried to westernize their games to make them more appealing. They end up ruining the integrity of their works to please more people. I think that ZUN just doesn't want to do that. He wants to keep the image the way it is, because they're his own games for his own audience.

>>10451780
She looks like a nice person.

>>10451786

Because retarded /jp/ers like to believe he shares their opinion on the western fanbase because it will somehow justify their grotesque elitism

>>10451798
People are arguing that he isnt racist and he is open to the world and courious about the west when he isnt quite like that. That does not make him evil for doing that

>>10451797
And it's fact that he isn't associated with any of it. We are going to full circle here where your argument will just circle around on "no hes not no hes not no hes not". Seriously, do us all a favor, stop posting and save the site's some bandwidth.

>>10451786
It's probably just the whole "if we hate it (overall) then that means he hates it as well!" mentality; for all we know he might not even be aware of how shitty it is here, or he does and wants to see it himself.
Also, isn't America supposed to have really bad beer overall? I don't drink so I wouldn't know.

>>10451798
>ZUN has gone to germany for beer. He enjoys it and has even sponsored akiba beer bars and a danmaku game involving beer.

ZUN is an alcoholic.

>ZUN has once stated negative comments about the western fanbase

ZUN is racist

>>10451478
>>10451484
>>10451489
I believe it's actually Quartaries and Quintaries.

Quaternary and quinary refer to cardinality, not position in an order (compare: unary, binary, trinary). Pentary... I guess it comes from Greek "pente", but I'm not really sure if it means anything at all, and even if it does, it's still from a different numbering system, and it's still describing cardinality.

>>10451802
I am typing rapidly at the keybord to get my point across.

>>10451804
This guy gets it

>>10451809
>he isnt quite like that
What makes you say that? If he wasn't interested then he wouldn't have gone to Germany and wouldn't be going to the US.

>>10451809
>People are arguing that he isnt racist and he is open to the world and courious about the west when he isnt quite like that.
ZUN has included Western characters in Touhou Project. ZUN has toured Europe and reported that he had a great time meeting people. ZUN has expressed interest in the Western fandom. ZUN is _going to a fucking anime convention_. I don't know what more you need to prove to you that he doesn't "hate Westerners."

And what support have you mustered in favor of your own position? So far I've only heard "no black Touhous" and "ZUN wants to keep secondary creations within doujin distribution channels." Which isn't worth a shit.

>>10451809
>that he isnt racist
Well, there's not really any reason to believe he is.
>he is open to the world
Why assume he isn't? No one is saying he's the biggest europhile or US adorer alive, mind you.

>>10451797
There are different levels or racism one person can have. It's not simply an on off switch from being a burning on the cross KKK member to not at all.

>>10451769
Mystic Square characters have already appeared in windows games though.

>>10451828
>But that wont change what he truly thinks inside
Are you a long distance psychic?

>>10451828
Provide some evidence that ZUN is actually racist, to counteract the preponderance of evidence that he isn't.

>>10451817
Keeping your audience limited and in the same language as your own so you know what is made and feels more "comfortable" doesn't make you racist. If he doesn't want his games to be massively popular everywhere then that's okay, but not racist at all.

>>10451818
He isnt PERFECTLY racist. He isnt PERFECTLY good either.

Yes, he will go to these things. But that wont change what he truly thinks inside.

>>10451827
Why do you keep using the word racist?

Have you looked it up yet?

Are you twisting someone's argument on purpose?

if SON come to american who will whatch the shangay arice when hes gone,

>>10451830
BUT, MUH REASONS

>>10451817
And that's that. End of discussion for ZUN's speculah about whether he's evil or not. I'm just gonna quote 4chan banner on this:

"WHAT OTHER VULGARITIES WE SHOULD DISCUSS TODAY"

>>10451831
>Why do you keep using the word racist?
>Are you twisting someone's argument on purpose?
He isn't, but someone sure is.
You can't accuse him of twisting argument when the original argument was *exactly* on whether or not he was racist.

>>10451826
That's true. Just add "besides Alice".

>>10451836
He wasn't referring to Alice. Or Yuuka either, for that matter.

>>10451830
I can go into his mind and show it to you. He will have racist tendencies and it will show but you will never truly see what he thinks.

ANd dont give me that "I am so ubove you so i am going to type int he most proper way ever" bullshit

>>10451834
Just leave already.

>>10451844
don't encourage him dude

he'll probably attack ZUN with a cleaver at AWA trying to get into his head

>>10451841
>I can go into his mind and show it to you.
Please do.

>>10451840
I'm at a loss here. Do you mean Marisa and Reimu? Those don't really count. Now does Yuuka since she debuts in another game.

>>10451834
No, its not the end of the discussion. There are people on the interenet that still believe that ZUN isnt that way he actually is and that the truth is that he prefers the japanese over the westerners.

>>10451844
If you can draw the conclusions to how the rest of that post was saying you can assume i ment to tsay i "can't" I am tyoing realy fast and replying to mutilple replies

>>10451841
>I can go into his mind and show it to you.
This is getting rather silly. I'd just leave this pleb for the time being and work on muh RPG again. Thank you for wasting my time trying to convince you otherwise, retard.

>>10451847
I am not referring to Marisa, Reimu, Alice, nor Yuuka.

>>10451847
No, he wasn't talking about Marisa or Reimu either. Read his original post again, it's all there.

>>10451857
I'm on to you, cleaver boy.

>>10451848
Isn't it obvious that fellow Japanese wants the best for his fellow countrymen?

Now we are going in full circle on where someone pointed how entitled most western 2hu fanbase are by >>10451656

>>10451846
>>10451849
If you can draw the conclusions to how the rest of that post was saying you can assume i ment to tsay i "can't" I am tyoing realy fast and replying to mutilple replies

>>10451856
You're the only one who's arguing in circles. You've still provided shit-all for concrete evidence.

>>10451857
tracking your ip right now ;)

>>10451863
Did you notice that that was a reply to himself? He's just trying to keep his master ruse going for a little while longer.

>>10451841
>I can go into his mind
Oh for god's sake just stop.

>>10451861
Good, I want you to come to my house so I can legally kill you for trespassing onto my property

>>10451865
If you can draw the conclusions to how the rest of that post was saying you can assume i ment to tsay i "can't" I am tyoing realy fast and replying to mutilple replies

It will never cease to amaze me how a single absolute retard can utterly ruin an otherwise decent thread. Please drink bleach and die, ZUNhaterAnon

This thread is so bad. The only thing that could make it worse is someone trying to play it of as an epic troll. No one provides any points proving that ZUN is racist.

>the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races

When does ZUN ever do anything like that? When does he say any race is surperior? All i see him do is make games and drink. That's hardly a reason to think he is racist. Or is he supposed to be racist because his primary market isn't the USA? Does that make all singers who only tour in the USA racist too, because they don't want to appeal to potential japanese fans?

>>10451863
I'm just going along with your circle. Don't associate me with your shitty argument that goes in a motherfucking circle of time wasting and unproductive discussion.

Blockheads like you aren't even worth the time and bandwidth anymore. I thought this will be a productive discussion, but apparently, I was wrong.

>>10451867
say that to my face, turbonerd, and i will punch you in the face harder than your mom ever had

So here's one for ya. Are there any games/producing/distribution companies with offices in the area?
What if this trip is really for business?

>>10451876
All you had to do was provide a single piece of evidence to demonstrate that you weren't trolling, Tokiko. But you wouldn't even do that. Give it up. Thread's on autosage, you got your replies, mission accomplished.

>>10451877
trolled hard

>>10451882
It's pretty fucking obviously not.

>>10451881
If you wanna talk like that to me why don't you come here and say it to me face so i can answer your insults with a swift fist to the nose. yea you have a lot to say from hundreds of miles away but i bet if my fists were in reach of your face you would be like a tv on mute with no volume button. So do yourself a favor and keep your mouth shut unless you want to die. Next time you think about saying something like that to me I want you to remember one thing. I know the guy that created google maps and I can locate you in the time it took me to type this.Don't want anymore problems....didn't think so faggots. You have any idea what gorilla warfare is? I do, I was in the US Marine Core and I perfected it. I'm fully capable of using it on you motherfuckers. Do you know the dander your in if I find you? I am 100$ serious. Bunch of god damn newfaf loser here and I will not have it. At least I've had sex, had girlfriends, and gotten laid, and blowjobbed unlike you virgin pieces of unpatriotic SHIT.

>>10451880
>lel trolled hard imma biggest trull ever hurr durr btw im a girl ;)

Die in a ring of fire surrounded by cannibals.

>>10451885
Ironically trading juvenile insults and copypasta is still shitposting.

>>10451889
Oh, shut the fuck up. He was a troll. You can tell because you ignored all the posts with substance in favor of posting flamebait instead. You were trolled. Suck it up, faggot.

>>10451891
Posting that ironic shitposting is still shiptosting is shitposting.

>>10451893
>Posting that ironic shitposting is still shitposting is shitposting.
I was encouraging them to stop derailing the thread. There was nothing particularly stupid about that post.

>>10451895
>implying that pointing out someone is trolled by his posts

Give it up, go back to /b/ or whenever you belong, hellspawn.

>>10451899
>implying that pointing out someone is trolled by his posts
This isn't even English.

>Give it up, go back to /b/ or whenever you belong, hellspawn.
Coming from a guy who posted ">lel trolled hard imma biggest trull ever hurr durr btw im a girl ;)" I'll have to decline.

>>10451780
Pig disgusting, but not because of her skin but because it's cosplay

>>10451903
Okay, okay, the thread isn't bad enough to deserve severe derailing, so I'll just take my leave here and leave you with some possible temporary sense of victory, anon.

But remember, those depression would return. Just sayin'.

>>10451908
You're a fucking retard. I argued against him for four posts, with evidence, and since he didn't respond I concluded that he was trolling. Kill yourself out of /jp/.

Native Japanese spirits according to ZUN's manga.

>>10451914
Modern society ruins everything.

>>10451914
Their western equivalents according to ZUN's manga.

>>10451918
That's just because the 座敷童, like the Tengu and all the other Japanese youkai, got the cute-girl treatment and the hobgoblins didn't.

ZUN confirmed for racist.

The year I'm not home in Georgia I'm in the Navy. While this could be a giant loss, at least I'm being stationed in Japan.

>>10451908
You're no better than he is.

>>10451918
I'm pissed too that the Hobgoblin in WAHH are not related to beer.

>>10451925
Gaijins can never integrate into Japanese society, they should keep to themselves away from the natives.

Is it just me or would it be kinda awkward talking to him?
>So how did you come across my work?
>I pirated the shit out of it

Or maybe he wouldn't care, beats me

>>10451942
"Postage costs would kill my budget, I was kinda hoping I'll be able to buy them all here."

And of course there's always: "Games? What do you mean games? I'm only watching the music videos on YouTube... Can I buy them on Steam?"

>>10451942

I swear, one day I will own the complete touhou series in mint condition. Until then, though, sorry for being selfish, ZUN ;_;

>>10451942
Just a reminder if a asshat like moot can do it so can you!

>>10451961
>"Games? What do you mean games? I'm only watching the music videos on YouTube... Can I buy them on Steam?"
This is actually what I think someone will do.

Just imagine your average con-goer... 気持ち悪い

>>10450723
>world-class local American beer
ahahaha

>>10451637
get the fuck out

>>10452126
There's a lot of people in this thread representative enough of how shitty the current /jp/ userbase is. Just do a quick filename search on >>10452100.

>>10451780
ugggh cannot unsee, disgusting

>>10452129
no one cares, so fuck off again

>>10452140
I wasn't the guy you were quoting.

Some time ago, there was a discussion of sending ZUN a case of the finest beers in America
http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/111585#p9124289

I think this would be the perfect chance to give it to him. If not at least just a six pack of various great beers.
/jp/ should write up an email and ask if he would accept such a gift. We could make a collaborative effort. I know for sure that I will be going to see him.

>>10451942
I haven't pirated any of the official series for this reason (except PC-98) because well, it doesn't seem right to me.

>>10452273
That is brilliant.

It'll be like the Berlin airlift but with beer.

>>10451453
it's okay, i wash it off, at the very least wipe it off
or i'll have two. then i can dual wield to scare people better

>>10450651
OMG!! OMG!!
Someone has to stop that, he could get shot!

>ZUN racist
>urban legend
>racist
>no proof
>racist

http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Inteiew_in_Swedish_Player1_Magazine

"P1: Do you have any exchange with people outside of Japan?

Z: Yes, there's many foreigners coming to the events. Most of them comes from Sweden, Germany, Taiwan, Korea and China. I don't know much about foreign doujin circles. But I meet many people doing doujin from Taiwan during the events. Apparently there's going to be an event dedicated to Touhou in Taiwan soon."

That was 2006.

>And thank god for it. I would never hope for a Touhou game with a title named "Embodiment of Uncle Sam" or "Perfect Liberty Blossom".

The more it get's exposed in the US, the more likely it is that it meets a dark end. Like Star Wars or Dragonball.
Apparently some people fail to understand it.

>>10452100
What hormones and genetically modified Frankestein shit is in American Beer, by the way?
Does it make you fat or ill or whatever?

>>>/cgl/

I know conventions are awful, but if it means seeing ZUN...
Would you forgive me /jp/? I think I could work up enough courage to go.

>>10453123
Conventions have Cosplay.
But Conventions are not only cosplay (See opening post)