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she was improved

otherwise she'd be just another boring oujo-sama

>>10423991
>Pic related, Yuyuko is the character most ruined by fanon.

Bullshit. Reisen, Kaguya and Alice are on top of her, closely followed by Lily White with her nonexistant clones.

>>10424008
This

People are pretty obviously joking around with Yuyuko's character. The ass end of a shitty joke. Not a big deal compared to the way others are seriously portrayed.

>>10424003
Her dialogues in the game are interesting enough for me.

>>10424008
It's my personal thought,sorry for making it unclear.

On a glimpse, look how much they have done, the damage is terrible.

>>10424015
SERIOUSLY, I can see where OP goes with this, but she is like, one of the most perfectly adapted to fandom characters, usually. I don't even like her by default.

The rest is what irks me.

>>10424021
Well at least they didn't invent too much bullshit about her that people constantly mimicked in other sources like those characters.

It still pains me how much Japan loves to clone Lily.

>>10423991
It's just a joke, I don't think anyone actually takes it seriously like they do Alice, Chen, Cirno and Udonge. Most Yuyu art I see just portrays her being pretty.

...We are talking about the chubby Yuyuko that loves food, right?

>>10424034
The more i think about it, the damage to Alice is actually more irreversible. My bad.

And yeah, i'm talking about that.

What about Aya, Sanae and Ran?

>>10424040
I think it can be cute at times, I don't often see it as my only form of Touhou discussion is on /jp/.

The only fanon stuff I can't stand are the pairings, like Marisa x Patchouli/Alice/Reimu or Yuugi x Parsee, some of the effected characters aren't anywhere near my favorites, but it's still kind of disappointing to see.

>>10423991
>Yuyuko is the character most ruined by fanon.

heh not even close, do you even /jp/? do you even secondar- wait why would anyone want to do that?

>>10424044
I think that Sanae takes the cake.

What are Sanae's ten desires though?

>>10424069
>69

sweet post number man, relevant too

You listed ass twice.

The trick is to not let fanon ruin things for you.
Just disregard such stuff

>>10424102
Thank you anon, that helps

>>10423991
Lets see, we have the Eirin as a sadistic doctor, Kaguya as a neet, Cirno as an idiot, Alice as a tsundere, Tewi as an asshole, Sakuya and Ran as pedophiles,, not to forget that the pads joke about sakuya is almost cannon , and you think Yuyuko is the most ruined character because she is always hungry....
Yeah, of course

Well... Touhou fanon is incredibly boring and abstract. But also copied from other lore, so...

Maybe you are just dumb for not liking fanon. Because that is what D-o-ujin is all about. bitch

>>10424126
To be fair, judging by the Inaba comics (yes I consider them canon) Tewi IS a huge asshole

>>10424138
You have a point i guess

Reimu
She is the same in fanon as in canon.

>>10424162
Even if it was a fanon personality, it would be a very fitting one if you ask me.

You know, I don't mind people making up fanon personalities, I just wish they would be good instead of making every touhou character generic anime girl no100000.
No wonder modern anime is so shitty if people insist on having characters with no depth at all.

The canon personalities are much better, just by the fact that they are not obvious and shrouded in mystery while being original and cool

All of them. True, pure forms of Touhous will always overcome crappy canon fads in the end.

All of them. True, pure forms of Touhous will always overcome crappy fanon fads in the end.

>>10424126
>Eirin as a sadistic doctor
>Cirno as an idiot
>Tewi as an asshole

These are pretty much true.

>>10424209
Like for so many things in fanon there are HINTS for these things, the problem is that canon blows them out of proportion until the fanon character is basicly nothing except that single trait.

See Yuuka and Koishi being insane based in a single line they said for further examples

>>10424215
Whoops, meant to say that fanon blows them out of proportion

>>10424054
Sanae is a shit character from the most overrated 2hu game. I believe the hate and rumors are accurate, specially with that shit ending she gets in Soku with some old fart's printed face on some bill.

>>10423991
No.

>>10424223
>from the most overrated 2hu game
You mean MoF, (first boss appearance), or UFO (first playable char appearance)?

>>10424126
>>10424209
>>10424215
I'd say those characters most definitely exhibit similar traits to those and isn't too far off, but what the fandom does is complete flanderization of said character traits.

>>10424240
Appearance, obviously.

She also appears in Soku, don't forget.

>>10424223
Mountain of Faith is underrated as fuck. In reality, it's lackluster.

>>10424274
>Mountain of Faith is underrated as fuck
More like a lot of fags thought it was the best 2hu ever aeons ago. There wasn't even SA or anything, people kept hyping the next 2hus as if they were to naturally outdo the older ones.

MoF stood up as the most overpraised one by far since it had many characters people began to like and it was introductory level shit.

>In reality, it's lackluster
People still praise it a lot due to spell cards, but seriously, it wasn't as refreshing as SA or TD, even UFO had some fun effects never seen before.

Also, Moriya clan sux, deal with it.

>>10424215
In Cirno's and Tewi's case it's pretty explicit.

>Yuuka and Koishi being insane

That never happens. Koishi is "insane" in LIEBE and that's it. Yuuka might be demonstrating your point, but she's being shown as a sadist, not a lunatic.

>>10424246
So you'd say exactly what >>10424215 said, just using words outside of regular English vernacular for some reason? Well, whatever.

>>10424253
And SA. And DS. That's a lot of games to choose from.

>>10424284
I forgot the trollific appearance of Sanae in SA.

And I don't count DS for obvious reasons.

>>10424215
don't forget flandre.

>>10424280
You seem to be implying that I like the game or the characters. I'm pointing out that the game it's overlooked and not that good compared to others.

>>10424289
>trollific

You hate Sanae for vague reasons and you throw this kind of jargon around and you expect your opinion to be taken seriously?

>>10424293
Flanders sending letters to Raymoo with a completely different name just to lure her in and violate her with danmaku.

Flanders haunting Eientei cast in Inaba gag series.

Nobody thinks she's sane because she's been trapped for years and doesn't care about people's feelings, she does hasty things to have something new to do, you must be insane if you don't want to admit it too.

>>10424324
Oh, if you insist...

Maybe and maturity took effect on people and grew out of that flawed game. I do like some of the characters and Kanako is not as shit as the Moriya clan though.

>>10424325
Here comes the Sanae defense force.

Nobody expected her in SA, her appearance is a waste and a disgusting surprise. Your favorite touhou sucks even in canon.

>>10424284
>That never happens
Exactly.
Maybe you are missing my point.
I'm saying that fandom has given Koishi and Yuka these 2 personalities and they refuse to acknowledge anything else about them.

Why?
Because of a dialogue line these 2 said which is a SMALL HINT that these 2 are violent, given that they are meaning it acutally serious which they most likely don't

>>10424324
Meant to say is* overlooked. Sorry.

>>10424336
Not him but you know that her appearance was justifiable, right? The PC was invading the Moriya shrine.

>>10424347
The idea is that Kanako was connected to the whole SA case, yes.

Thing is, nobody expected a waste of a stage against Sanae all over again and to top it all, it had to be in the Extra stage.

Even Japan freaked out about it.

>>10424368
"Nobody expected it" is hardly a criticism.

>>10424368
Well who the hell else would the midboss be?

>>10424446
There is hardly anything to criticize, it's still ZUN's game, not mine, it's just a specially disgusting surprise to me that the majority of the Extra wasn't even a direct conformation with Kanako again, you just fight that slut first then you get to fight a fake Satori.

BORING.

>>10424338
>fandom has given Koishi and Yuka these 2 personalities

No, it didn't.

"That never happens" IN THE FANON. Did you even read past what you quoted?

The fanon doesn't ruin any characters unless you take fanon as canon, you fucking pants-wetting retard.

>>10424471
>a fake Satori

She may hate being one, but it doesn't make her a fake.

>>10424487
Oh yes.
Sorry, in fact I misunderstood your post.
Well, I think it depends on which part of the fandom we are talking here.

I'm sure there are people who only know these versions of Koishi and Yuuka

>>10424494
Yeah I know, I don't really hate her.

There's so very little about her past her Stage and manual though...people had to make up shit again to fill the void.

>>10424488
Untill all that exists and all anybody talks about is "PADS PADS XD", "Eirin's shady drugs", or your character being a midget.

Why anybody talk about NEET-Kaguya?

>>10424517
It's shit. Though it has some truth. What else?

I thought character that is fanon-ruined the most is Sakuya and Cirno. That LOLPAD and LOLBAKAXD thing is annoying as fuck.

I can't believe no one has mentioned "Koakuma" yet

>>10424566

I have honestly not seen either of those things in years except when posted ironically by /jp/ to shitpost

>>10424597
You need to step out from /jp/ once a while and head out to the world of terrible. You will know...

>>10424566
-knifed-

>>10424604

Enlighten me then

>>10424597
Youtube and Facebook helps, really.

I'm sorry, I don't believe a few dialogs and some description in a manual are supposed to constitute a personality at all. You can't ruin what barely exists.

>>10424573
As in ruined or not? There's not much to ruin when it comes to her.

Tewi is the least skewered character from canon to fanon. All that is known about her personality is that she's a prankster and tells fibs, so that was the only thing the fans could work off of. As for worst, it's like a billion way tie since most of the cast from EoSD through IN got all sorts of really stupid shit popularized by the fandom for them that it's too difficult to decide on who got the worst of it. Kaguya, Sakuya, Yuyuko, Cirno, Alice, Ran, Chen, the Scarlet Sisters, and Eirin rank really high up there. Cirno and Sakuya probably have (or had) the most annoying fanon shit in the long run, but Kaguya's most popular fanon interpretation abandons ALL material from official sources, turning her from a highly inquisitive character who really wants to go meet new people and 1v1s Mokou on a regular basis to an anti-social shut-in who always has someone aiding them in any fights.

>>10424573
She was a nameless midboss so it doesn't really matter what the hell people do with her since she's a noncharacter. Nothing of any value is lost from any interpretation.

>>10424323
>Flanders sending letters to Raymoo with a completely different name just to lure her in and violate her with danmaku.

Damn. Forgot the print work's name in which this happens. Anyone?

>>10424621
> You can't ruin what barely exists.
How come it has happened so many times?

>>10424658
No profile, no personality hints, no relevancy.

Who are you quoting, btw?

>>10424652
And Then There Were None/Ten little niggers?

Yeah, didn't even read it. Flanders is a serious case of boredom and all she ever does is lure people into SDM's basement.

>>10424664
Whoops, meant to quote >>10424619

>>10424664
>hear that /jp/ is obsessed with proper use of greentext
>come and check it out
>first thread I see is someone asking "who are you quoting"
ty /jp/

>>10424695
that's just our epic meme. another one is about spoilers, or as we prefer to call them, surprise bars.

No character is ruined by the fanon as long as ZUN does not adopt the fanon character traits into canon.

>>10424695
Who are you quoting, crossboard friend?

>>10424714

Not for secondaries

>>10424471
>you just fight that slut first
And there goes all your credibility to discuss this.

>>10424471
So Flandre is a fake Scarlet too?

People like to take it easy, so they don't talk about the drama of Yuyuko life and killing herself and that stuff, I prefer the soft comedy as long it doesn't turn retarded.

I don't really mind her RADICAL interpretations. She is an arsonist, after all.

I like bakery kazami.

>>10425960

I wanna buy bread from her.

I really hate what fanon does to Ran. She's either gushing out blood obsessing over Chen, naked and dancing out in the open, or in the case of /jp/, a mother. I can't remember the last time we had a nice thread about Ran without this mama Ran bullshit.

>>10425772
Sanae fanboy angered?

>>10425887
At least Flandre doesn't look like a reskin.

>>10428003
This here. Everyone else should just either stop complaining or start taking things in perspective. You're Touhous have it nowhere near this bad.

>>10428003
Mama ran is best mama

People who complain about fanon are secondaries. Only secondaries would get this asspained over trifles like fandom interpretation

>>10428116
Really.

>>10424126
But these are all awesome fanons

>>10424471
Fake Satori? she's her sister, as with Flandre + Remilia. I really don't get all the Koishi hate

>>10428118
This. fucking this

Why do touhou fans care so damn bad about how the characters are portrayed, especially when they're mostly just in-jokes. You don't see people bitching about Pokewaifus being severely misrepresented despite the characters having similar fan interpretations.

Is it because FILTHY SECONDARIES enjoy it?

>2013
>Still cares about such things
Grow up you faglord.

The only thing worse than secondaries is people who complain about secondaries.

While she's not the most reliable servant, the fanon has still gone to great lengths to piss all over her image. That it may also supposedly be based on some lovely old fashioned japanese racism only adds to how annoying it is.

95% of the group images you'll find her in have her A) Asleep or B) Being brutalized by knives courtesy of Sakuya or C) Both.

The other option is almost as bad though. The SuperBadAss Meiling some artists just love to needless overdo. Very few manage a good middle ground.

>>10428232
There's no satisfying you fucking people.

>>10428246

Sorry that I don't like one shitty extreme or the other, I guess?

>>10428246
Maybe there would, if other people would make personalities without extremes which are actually good.

Seriously, do people have such a low attention span that they can only give every character a single attribute?

What some of you don't seem to understand is:
Artists draw what they themselves want to draw. Both fanon attributes (Only jerks seriously take that shit as a threat) and original interpretations are absolutely fine for them to draw (As longs as they do good).
And then someone who doesn't know anything about the art of drawing walks by and thinks the character is overdrawn just because he can't the see any deeper than the surface and isn't able to find features or see the details.
There is much more to those drawings than a layman could discern.
And in the end, none of them can do even half as good.

Seriously. Enjoy fanon. If it's too much for you, just ignore it. Even people who enjoy fanon are able to tell canon apart - And if they are not, just ignore those idiots as well.
That said, fanon ruins nothing. It's just that people are too intolerant to acknowledge different senses of humor.

>>10428270
I see nothing wrong with that, but when people take fanon as more than just silly little fun and claim stuff like "touhou IS fanon, fanon characters are more valid than canon" then I wanna punch someone

>>10428281
>I get upset over someone else's portrayal of a fictional character.

>>10428281
That's right, of course. Those folks entirely need to be punched.

>>10428294
you can just say
>touhou fans
and it'd work just as well.

Worst fandom.

>>10428294
Who are you quoting?
I never said or implied that.
Maybe you should take that dildo out of your ass since it seems to influence you reading comprehension you faggot

>>10428305
You're a very angry person.

>>10428305
>I never said or implied that.
Yes you did

>when people take fanon as more than just silly little fun and claim stuff like "touhou IS fanon, fanon characters are more valid than canon" then I wanna punch someone
I dunno about you but the only time I punch someone is when I'm upset

>>10428308
Like I said, remove the object in your ass and you might understand

>>10428308
I, for one, punch people for pleasure because I'm a sadist.

>>10428308
I may tell you what he was actually saying right now:
He was saying that people who take fanon interpretations just like a slutty Sanae actually serious because they think fanon is the only reliable source because they are secondaries make him want to punch them - Which is totally justified, because those people don't respect the intellectual property ZUN has created all over the years.
People who think fanon equals canon.
Need to be punched.

Hey girls, what's going on here?

>>10428322
Blitzkrieg

>>10428322
Heart to heart conversation

A TRU Touhou Project fan grazes secondary works to gain more points but skillfully dodges a direct hit.

>>10424178
Holy fuck this anon speaks some truth.

What's the point of even having the character if you just force a fucking boring and dull personality on them.

I think it's okay to put a bit of a twist on a character's personality as long as it's interesting and well-done, but the things I've seen are just stupid.

>>10428232
Well, her reputation within the SDM in canon works is also of her being lazy and sleeping a lot, so that part is at least based off canon. The knives thing is totally contrary to canon though.

>>10424645
What about Reisen?

Reisen's pretty much been turned into a useless, moe-moe, stupid, 'only good for sex appeal' rabbit.

Don't get wrong, I liked that doujin, but it got blown out of proportion hardcore.

Though I will agree Kaguya probably got hit the hardest.

yuuka in the games teases people and talks about flowers
yuuka in fanon is a batshit insane murderous sociopath

>>10430812

I cannot think of an instance in canon where she is outright lazy about her work. As for the sleeping, there's her Soku storyline, and the mention in PMiSS about her taking a nap at noon.

Her sleeping at the gate may make more sense depending on what her actual work schedule is though, as there's no kind of implication that she ever even leaves her post beyond going to attend the gardens.

Either way, the way it's so thoroughly beaten into the ground by the fanon, you'd swear she couldn't even make it through dinner without falling asleep once or twice.

>>10430895
I meant how the members of the SDM complain about her being lazy in several dialogues. It doesn't mean she actually is lazy, but her bosses seem to think she is. I'm not too familiar with secondary works so I can't really comment on how accurate their portrayals are.

>>10430939

Remilia has no dialogue of the sort with Meiling, in fact the only dialogue between the two are their win quotes to one another in the fighters.

Sakuya is always bugging Meiling about her job because, well, it's her job to make sure things in the Mansion are running smoothly.

Patchouli is the only one that really gets mad at her because the sad fact is that Marisa gets in the Mansion all the time because Meiling isn't good enough to stop her, which of course leads to more missing books for Patchouli.

I may be one of the only ones that feels this way, but to me it feels like ZUN lets the fandom influence his interpretations of some of the characters, namely Cirno and Okuu.
It seems to me, by just looking at their dialogue, that both of them have drastically downgraded in intelligence even if they weren't that bright to begin with.

>>10430971
I'd let Marisa in to steal books just because Patchouli is a cunt.

>>10431007

Call me forgetful, but where has Okuu popped up since SA other than her SoPM profile?

As for Cirno, I dunno, it seems to me personally that she's always been like that. She's always been that kinda kid-level dumb.

>>10431044
Soku. She was a boss in Sanae and Cirno's stories.

>>10431044
Hisoutensoku. She even says that she can't tell the shrine maidens apart, which puts her lower in intelligence than ravens/crows, which can not only tell people apart but can also tell other crows what problematic people look like.

>>10431047
>>10431048

Well I feel retarded now. Not sure how I managed to forget that.

Problem is, Okuu didn't really have too much material to draw a solid character from prior to Soku. It becomes a very fuzzy line between "ZUN taking ideas from the fanon" and "ZUN had these plans in mind for this character originally, and nowhere else to show it".

>>10431067
I think he always had the intention to make her a birdbrain with raw power.
See ZUNs comment to her theme.

It's not like she is retarded, she's just a ditz.
A nice twist by ZUN if you ask me.
I love how he makes characters which contradict the nature of their job/race like Reimu being a friend of youkai, Youmu being aftaid of ghosts and Okuu being not very smart despite being a crow.

Not only that, but he gives his characters more than a single aspect which makes them seem more like actual persons.
Reimu shows behaviour of a bully, a friend of youkai and a dutyful shrinemaiden.
Marisa isn't just a rude thief, she's also Reimu friend and a master of magic who worked hard to earn that title.

Come on fanon, flat characters are just not believeable, even Hitler was more than just a dictator and mass murderer

>>10424323
Or she could just be a big meanieface

>>10431581
Like roughly 70% of all touhous

Ruined by fanon, eh?

It's funny how people try to argue Flandre isn't insane when it's right there in her official EoSD profile.

I think the main problem with her portrayals generally is that people have a very narrow idea of what "insane" means.

>>10431662
I wouldn't say that "kind of nuts" is the same as being downright insane.
It's more like: /jp/ is kind of nuts, people who hear voices in their heads and go on killing sprees are insane.

It basicly boils down to that Flandre is socially unnormal and emotionally underdeveloped

>>10431636
She is just motivating the players who can't even defeat her. Yet labelled a Masochist.

>>10431461
Besides the couple of things you mentioned, there's still a lot about Okuu that we don't really understand about her personality and a lot of it is left up to interpretation, but this can only be a good thing in my opinion. Mostly because all the interpretations of her are all fairly likable and not too absurd or exaggerated, with a few exceptions. We can only take what little canon facts we know about her and analyze those things to try and know her better. But there are many good things about her personality that are pretty much universally agreed upon.

>>10431899
Same can be said by most characters, which is what makes touhou so great.
It gives us the freedom to explore a character by making our own interpretetions about herself, her past and her future.

It's up to us how we use this freedom though.
If it's used to explore a character or even giving her a completly new personality to include her in interesting stories then it's okay.
That's what many doujin artists do.

Sadly many bad personalities also originated from this freedom

>>10431911
>Same can be said by most characters, which is what makes touhou so great.
It gives us the freedom to explore a character by making our own interpretetions about herself, her past and her future.

That is definitely true to some extent, but many Touhous we understand far more about since we get to see many of them in multiple games or manga with lots more dialogue than others. Although it still applies even more-so to all SA characters and especially Okuu, since she:

a) Don't get hardly any spotlight in any of the canon works, other than SA and a little bit from Soku
and
b) "She doesn't come to the surface or interact with humans much so her personality is unclear." as mentioned from SoPM
and lastly
c) "Threat level: Unknown / Human friendship level: Unknown" also from SoPM

Some of these same things also apply to most SA characters since they also never appeared in the manga or any games. While this kind of bothered me at first that not much more was revealed about Okuu, it continued to give fans much more freedom to interpret Okuu how they wanted, which is nice.

And it's like you said, it's up to the community to use the freedom of interpretation to turn these characters into something more than only what we see in canon. But more often than not, it ends up being a good thing from my experience, at least with the majority of the characters I pay the most attention to.

I don't know where to start with this one.

Has Meiling even been mentioned in this thread

>>10432391

I don't know if you're being sarcastic or you just haven't bothered to read the thread but yes, she has been mentioned at length.

I'm not a fan of there being distinct "fanon" personalities either. It encourages people to be lazy and just adhere to what's there instead of being creative and taking advantage of touhou's mostly-not-explained lore and characters.

Fanon is great, nobody takes it seriously, Cirno is dumb and y'all are fags.

>>10432411
>or you just haven't bothered to read the thread
Yeah that one.

>>10432419
She's actually fairly smart and strong for a fairy

>>10432435

The emphasis though is "for a fairy".

Yes fanon tends to go seriously overboard with it at times, but Cirno still isn't particularly bright.

probably Yukari,
not only by the concept of powerlevel if not also by the old hag jokes.
dammit, in canon she looks like a teen! fucking niggers.

>>10432468

Actually, other than the "old hag" schtick, I'd say Yukari is one of the characters better represented in the fanon.

>>10432477
Other than the old hag stuff all I ever see of Yukari is her doing wacky things for the sake of doing them. Unless i'm missing something here.

>>10432482

And doesn't that pretty much describe most of her involvements in canon material?

>>10432489
She's more like a sheming extremly intelligent mysterious being who sleeps alot in canon

>>10432416
That's something I can stand behind.

Unfortunately, for most people, "fanon" means "all things that differ from what I think".

>>10432433
Thank you for your wonderful contribution.

>>10432468
Among lolis, 17-years-old is ancient.

>>10432482
>>10432489
Yeah, guys, you're missing something. You just can't follow her complex trail of reasoning, incomprehensible to lesser beings. We've seen glimpses of her motivations and they're far from doing things for the sake of doing them. There's an overarching plan in them your minds just can't wrap around.

>>10424052
You think "LOL OMG DON'T EAT ME YUYUKO SAMA XDDDDD" doesn't count as ruining her character?

PUSSY ASS JANISHIT

>>10432589
That's from Imperishable Night, so "LOL OMG DON'T EAT ME YUYUKO SAMA XDDDDD" is canon.

>>10432589
If you hate a character because of the fans surrounding him you should commit suicide.

>>10432595
Mystia was alive in PoFV, if you mean that "incident".

>>10432595
I'm afraid you are too dumb for symbolism then.
You probally also think that Reimu killed Sakuya and that Yuyuko has eaten Mystia

>>10432607
>>10432608
I know she just pretended to, but Youmu believed it.

>>10432612
That's because Youmu also is too dumb for the symbolism and schemes of her mistress.

>>10432619
Meaning "LOL OMG DON'T EAT ME YUYUKO SAMA XDDDDD" is canon, like I originally said.

>>10432622
>>10432619
>>10432612
>>10432607
>>10432608
>>10432595
>>10432589
Hold on, I got a bone stuck in my throat.

>>10432622
How can a meme which is blown out of proporsition be canon?
Would you mind forming actual sentences to support your claim?
What exactly is canon about it?

>>10432636
Fanon is character traits created with no actual ground in the canon material. Like Reimu being an undead zombie or Rumia becoming a powerful enemy when her ribbon is removed. Yuyuko (pretending) to eat people is canon.

>>10432646
That's true, but fanon doesn't portrays her as pretending to eat people, it portrays her as a glutton even though it's clearly not the case

Speaking of all this stuff.

Does anyone have a picture of that blue rabbit that looks pretty much EXACTLY like Reisen?

>>10432663

>>10432678
Do you have the picture that was basically someone doing a mock up of said rabbit in Reisen's colours?

Looked EXACTLY like her. I deleted it a while back because I actually thought it was her.

>>10432681
No I don't. Sorry.

>>10432657
>it portrays her as a glutton
Yes, that's her typical portrayal in COMEDIC works. Have you heard about this genre where some things are exaggerated and blown out of proportions for giggles and stuff? Such fan works were created to not be taken seriously.
Here, I have a present for you, take it easy:
http://danbooru.donmai.us/pool/sho4318

>>10432681
This? >>10372551
Also, to keep on topic, Tenshi.

>>10432988
There's a difference between making something for a comedic work and spouting something and running it into a ground until nobody remembers the ACTUAL character anymore

>>10433926
She is a solid ghost, unable to pass on. She is tortured by the hollowness of the lack of life and tries to fill the empty space with gluttony, swallowing food but never achieving satiation, forever jealous of living.

>>10435701
Except that's not true.

Would make for interesting plot of a doujin though

If you're not making your own canon you're doing it wrong

H-hit me more!

>>10435873
She never said those words!

>>10435873
It annoys me more than it should.

Thing is is that you are not given a lot to go on in official material and so have to take liberties yourself to fill in the blacks. For instance many of the elder touhous (Erin, Yuyuko, Yukari ect) would be extremely similar (respected elegant master figure) without something to differentiate them from each other.

>>10435991
>For instance many of the elder touhous (Erin, Yuyuko, Yukari ect) would be extremely similar (respected elegant master figure) without something to differentiate them from each other

But that's wrong.
You probally think so because you barely know anything about their dialogues or haven't read much canon stuff involving them

>>10423991
>Things fanon don't ruin
You're anus won't be on that list, lel

>Yuyuko is the character most ruined by fanon

Uhh, should check out alice then ;V

>>10436107
Please do not post with emoticons on 4chan. Thank you for your understanding.

>>10436107
But there's always cute fanart of anything.

>>10436107
No-one actually believes that bullshit, though.

>>10436107
Maybe she just hates Reimu?

>>10436257
>Maybe she just hates Reimu?
Yes, just like everyone in Gensokyo should. Reimu is shit and deserves no other treatment.
Though I still can't say if that picture was created for trolling or its author really believed that Alice was an arrogant and cold-hearted bitch. He probably didn't read her interview in BAiR or completely ignored the change in Marisa x Alice relationship from PCB to IaMP to IN/SA.

>>10435873
She is canon masochist, she barely feels any pain. That's why her pain states in SWR are retarded.

I'm still waiting until she shows up in a shootan part, I'll laugh if she has any gimmicks like Kogasa and Seiga.

>>10440535
>She is canon masochis
> she barely feels any pain

That's not the same anon

>>10436330
>Though I still can't say if that picture was created for trolling
Can't really be sure, but I think it is.

>>10440558
>masochis
Control your nerd rage there.

>>10436107
This x100. Canon Alice is a sarcastic, cynical and depressed magical puppeteer who lives by herself working on her dolls and avoiding social contact. Fanon Alice shit all over that by making her into a shy, cheerful, and friendly girl who's best friends with patchy and marisa. And that's why I can't like Alice anymore. ZUN made this perfect Daria-Eeyore hybrid, and the fans somehow make her into the complete opposite character from that interpretation. I would easily say Alice has suffered the most fanon-ruining.

Aya also used to suffer from the slut namecalling, but then it transfer to Sanae. Now she's just seen as a slight pervert and paparazzi. But even then, there's still a large portion of Aya fans who mostly stick to the canon portrayal of her, so it's not that bad.

As far as characters that were pretty much unscathed by fanon, I would vote Yamame and Letty because nobody gives a fuck about them.

>>10440604
>I would vote Yamame

Fuck you, she's one of the best characters we've had in years.

>>10440604
>Letty

Letty is the fattest touhou in fanon.

>>10440604
Would it hurt you to read some official material?

Upon consideration, I guess it would.

>>10440604
Alice looks not one bit depressed in the fairy manga.

>>10440604
>Now she's just seen as a slight pervert and paparazzi.
Without the pervert part, she more or less is a paparazzi and a tabloid.

>>10440635
According to Perfect Memento, she let's human strangers stay as guests in her home and has a high human friendship level, but she won't interact with them as she is too obsessed with her dolls and comes off as creepy. Alice is a canon autist.

>>10440673
>Obsessed with dolls and comes off as creepy
>That means she's depressed and autistic!
Seriously, reread and delete your posts.

>>10440604
Alice is depressed? Since when? She's not even that much of a jerk, since she helps and gives shelter to humans lost in the forest, along with performing shows in public on occasion. She's not gloomy or snarky, just apathetic to social interaction and likes to keep herself to her own devices, but doesn't shoo people away and leave them to die or wander aimlessly.

Letty has the FATTY FAT FAT FAT crap, but she's pretty unpopular anyway it's produced so hella nice healthy porn so I think it's a draw.

>>10440681
>posts
That was my only post. I never said she was depressed at all. And playing with dolls and not interacting with guests you invite is pretty autistic.

>>10440810
Do you even mean what autistic mean?
If she was an autist she wouldn't invite them in the first place

>>10440810
its not autistic

just obsessive