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>>10392477
>Her last appearance in any official work was 8 years ago.
ww

>>10392477
First windows game

>Her last appearance in any official work was 8 years ago.

Are you fucking kidding me?

>>10392484

Little cameos in background don't count I guess.

>>10392477
Because secondaries. Most Touhou fans don't bother with any of the official works, let alone the games.

>>10392477
She ain't.

She's not losing it though.

I'm inclined to say it's the porn.

She's hot as fuck and gets tons of great porn.

>>10392494

slutty blonde loli imouto

>>10392502

She's consistently getting higher in official polls.

flanfly threads keep her alive

but they are declining

>>10392568

Yeah, I'm sure nips voting for her in polls even know this flanfly shit.

You gotta wonder how the hell she gained her popularity in the first place.

Design? Theme? Personality hints? EX Boss status? First EX Boss? (lel wuts PC-98) All of them combined?

（ ´_ゝ`）
For the same reason her sister also does, loli vampires.

>>10392585
Probably all of them. Also it makes sense for the original cast members to be popular. I can't even remember any Touhous after MoF.

Plus vampires are hip and cool and lolis are hip and cool. Loli vampires are always sure to be a hit.

>>10392585
>Design? Theme?

This. And blonde loli vampire.

>>10392597
You don't remember Okuu?
Tenshi?
What the fuck is wrong with you, do you have Alzheimer's?

>>10392596

Remi appeared in pretty much all official manga series. And had a story mode in IaMP and SWR.

she got more dewjeens.
hot
loli vampire
pedo not cute
blond

cuz she's fuggable

just look at her

>>10392630
...in other words, popular among secondaries.

>>10392653
I'm looking at her, but I find it hard to fap to this.

Funny how Marisa is doing worse and worse in every next poll.

>>10392666
nice

>>10392659
Secondaries make up around 90% of the fanbase. Just because TRUprimaries don't like her (highly doubtful) doesn't mean she's not highly popular overall.

I like her very much. I don't know why but EoSD's cast is the one that clicks in the best for me. It must have been 4 or 5 years since I first played EoSD, it being my first Touhou game, but I still like the characters the most after all the games that came afterwards.

Anyway, blonde twintail (depends on artist) moe. Hard to beat

I like her very much. I don't know why but EoSD's cast is the one that clicks in the best for me. It must have been 4 or 5 years since I first played EoSD, it being my first Touhou game, but I still like the characters the most after all the games that came afterwards.

Anyway, blonde twintail (depends on artist) moe. Hard to beat.

(dupe image detected at >>10380341 )

>>10392741

EoSD had the best cast. That's not even debatable.

>>10392608
>Tenshi
Nobody plays the fighting games.

Her themes, design, Scarlet Devil Mansion, status as the first more powerful younger sister, the works.

I don't know why people like the worst goddamn touhou. It's annoying. Her and Cirno are the worst and their fans are fucktarded autists.

>>10392835
Spoken like a true sperg.

>>10392823
I think it's the contrary.

>>10392851
You cannot deny the fact that their fanbase is everything wrong with Touhou.

>>10392887
don't forget about the pretentious faggots like you

also the scat, i'm not a fan of the scat

>>10392887
Why would you even pay attention to a fandom and let it ruin the game for you? As much as I like Flandre, I'm aware of how horrible her fandom is, but I don't just go on youtube and look up Flandre related videos/ U.N. Owen YTPMVs just to get angry as if i'm a masochistic idiot, besides I block youtube comments anyway. If you're really going as to say that the fandom that ZUN pays little attention to when he makes his games ruins them, you really are something of an asstard. But whatever, it's you're choice to believe what you want, I won't stand in the way, i'm just stating what I feel needs to be stated.

>>10392900
>pretentious

Mind explaining?

>>10392887
I always thought people say stuff like "x is the worst touhou because her fans are all secondaries" in a ironic way.

Come on, nobody can seriously be that stupid.
It's all just a big joke right?

>>10392931
I'm being completely serious, both of their fanbases are ridiculously loud and obnoxious.

>>10392946
see>>10392906

>>10392952
>Why would you even pay attention to a fandom and let it ruin the game for you?

It's not me paying attention to them, it's more the fact that they're fucking everywhere and you can't ignore them

>>10392887
Those are mostly kids. They make omg so random comments about everything they like.

>>10392960
I never see or encounter them anywhere, but then again I only browse /jp/, you're acting exactly like >>10392931 said with "x is the worst touhou because her fans are all secondaries". Honestly I think the only way you'd even encounter these people is if you actually TRY to. Like watching those Touhou PVs/IOSYS videos, that's the only place I see the shit spilling out uncontrolably not even the boorus are like that. You're acting exactly like a hipster, hating something because it's popular.

>>10392960
That's a problem from your part. Stop being autistic/retarded, and maybe you'll start to enjoy things in a more peaceful way.

They don't say "take it easy" for no reason, you know.

>>10392666
Look up some meltdown comet or other fan art. that'll change things if you're in your right mind.

>>10392979
>I never see or encounter them anywhere, but then again I only browse /jp/,
Have you ever been on /jp/ at 2:00 AM?

>You're acting exactly like a hipster, hating something because it's popular.
Why do I always get called this. My favorite character is one of the most popular (Patchouli) so no, I am not a hipster.

>>10392911
You make a big fucking deal about various elements of the fandom you have no actual need to give a shit about, so you can feel superior to them.

I don't like guro, I don't like scat, and I don't like watching my favorite Touhou get gangraped by a horse and a pig, but instead of coming to /jp/ to cry about it I just choose not to look at such things instead.

>>10393028
>Have you ever been on /jp/ at 2:00 AM?

If you seriously think that the people posting in these threads have flan as their favourite touhou and don't just want to participate in one of /jp/s "epic maymay" then you are literally autistic.

I'm pretty sure Patchoulie has just as many retarded fans as Flandre.
Every touhou has them.
Touhou as a whole is something that attracts very horrible people, similar to furry or MLP.

If you can't accept that 70% of all touhou fans are 13 year old memespouting secondary retards then I suggest that you either learn to ignore it or find something different

>>10393028
>Have you ever been on /jp/ at 2:00 AM?
That's just /jp/ culture, besides, those aren't even Flan fans most of the time, and actual Flan fans probably get scared away by Flanfly threads. Now you're just pulling straws.

You get called a hipster because exactly like I said, hating something that's popular. Just because you're favorite character happens to be pretty popular doesn't exclude you from being one in reality. Black people love Patchouli though pardon my spoilers, /jp/.

>>10393028
It's the current cool way of saying "person who likes what I don't like or vice versa" in a derisive way. Pay it no attention.

>>10393081
No it's not.
A person who likes what i don't like or vice versa is just a person with an, er-hem, OPINION.

A hipster is someone who just hates something because it's popular, regardless if it's good or not. A Hipster spends their time liking things that are super obscure and underground that no one would know and busy rubbing in your face about how "superior" their tastes are just because they actually look around places just to find something they so called "like" and the moment it becomes popular they start to hate it.

>>10393052
>That's just /jp/ culture, besides, those aren't even Flan fans most of the time, and actual Flan fans probably get scared away by Flanfly threads.
Do you have any proof of that?

>>10393052
>Black people love Patchouli though
what

>>10393132
Obviously nobody has indisputable proof, it's fucking 4chan.

>>10393056
>I'm pretty sure Patchoulie has just as many retarded fans as Flandre.
And you'd be wrong about that.

>Every touhou has them.
You're wrong about this as well.

>>10393056
>If you can't accept that 70% of all touhou fans are 13 year old memespouting secondary retards then I suggest that you either learn to ignore it or find something different

I do accept it, it doesn't mean I have to like it. I like the official games, I like some of the fanworks but that doesn't mean I can acknowledge that Flan and Cirno fans are the worst thing about the fanbase?

>>10393161
Do you want me to start posting things that I consider a "worse part of the fanbase" than the kids who like Cirno?

>>10393166
Be my guest.

I don't like this Touhou, therefore it's fanbase is shit!!

>>10393161
>And you'd be wrong about that.

Thanks for the chuckle.

>>10393132
>Do you have any proof of that?
Anyone with a brain would know that the people who participate in Flanfly threads are most of the time indefinitely not Flandre fans, if you honestly think they are then you're so dense not even Suika could help you.

It's commonly known that blacks love Patchy.

>>10393161
>You're wrong about this as well.
Sanae, Chen, Youmu, Rinnosuke, Alice, just about anyone in the series.

>>10393169
Maybe you get off to this shit, I don't know.

I'm just browsing, none of this is exceptionally bad.

>>10393185

>>10393174
>Sanae, Chen, Youmu, Rinnosuke, Alice, just about anyone in the series.
I've yet to see a secondary shithead get attached to most of the newer touhous, like I don't know, Miko or someone.

>>10393177
Go ahead, give an example of how her fanbase is more autistic than either of those babbys first touhous. I'll wait.

>>10393175
I was pretty neutral on those two until I discovered their unbearable fans. If anything it's the other way around.

>>10393192

>>10393195
>more autistic

Now you changed the subject. Nice try.

>>10393194
This one is actually tame but I just thought it was notable because I didn't even know this guy did guro.

Unless it's an edit.

>>10393195
Murasa has this thing called "CAPTIN MOTHERFUCKING MURASA" and her anchors
Kogasa her SURPRISE
Sanae and her sluttiness
Hatate/Hata-tan
People who argue that Byakuren is a good or bad person.
Unzan and his BROFISTS
Yoshika and her Thriller vids and refferences.

>>10393194
This one is actually tame but I just thought it was notable because I didn't even know this guy did guro.

Unless it's an edit.

>>10393161
Go ahead, go into the lions den and see the horrors for yourself. Go to any touhou forum of your choice and check the threads about every character who isn't Flandre.
Go on tumblr if you dare and search touhou stuff.

Retard fans are not exclusive to Flandre or Chen, you just think this because these 2 are the entry level touhous due to stuff like McRoll or bkub.
It doesn't mean that their fanbases are worse as a whole.

If you really think that you are delusional

>>10393209
And for some reason there's not as much scat or eyefucking as I thought there would be. I'll just switch to Pixiv for that, I guess.

>>10393200
>Now you changed the subject. Nice try.
Actually I didn't. You claimed that Patchouli has just as many bad fans as Flan, that is objectively wrong.

>>10393213
Are you ever going to respond to me? You asked for it. It's not like I dig through this stuff because I like it.

>>10393101
Okay, I get it, a hipster is not just someone with an OPINION. A hipster is someone with an OPINION supported by more experience that you have.

I've learned something today, Anon. Thank you.

>>10393202
Also Futo's pose.
Mamizou and Tomoe Mami or sometimes Mimazou.
SEIGA SEGA

>>10393217

>>10393217
You the one posting the guro?

It still isn't worse than BAKA BAKA SHES THE STRONGEST
or

LOL MCROLL'D FLAN IS SO KAWAII IM A TRUE FAN EVEN THOUGH I CAN'T 1CC EASY

>>10393223
>It still isn't worse than BAKA BAKA SHES THE STRONGEST or LOL MCROLL'D FLAN IS SO KAWAII IM A TRUE FAN EVEN THOUGH I CAN'T 1CC EASY
How can you even think that? You would rather keep this stuff around than a pile of children's YouTube comments?

>>10393223
>It still isn't worse than BAKA BAKA SHES THE STRONGEST or LOL MCROLL'D FLAN IS SO KAWAII IM A TRUE FAN EVEN THOUGH I CAN'T 1CC EASY
How can you even think that? You would rather keep this stuff around than a pile of children's YouTube comments?

>>10393219
Congrats on missing the entire point of that description you dorkass.

>>10393226
Alright I get the point, I'll concede on that one. Anyway, they still aren't as annoying because they aren't as numerous and aren't as vocal as the unholy trinity of Flan, Cirno, and Chen.

>>10393236
That's because they're just new characters, give them time and they'll grow.

>>10393232

>>10393223

>>10393226
>Also Futo's pose.
Huh? I don't get it. Unless you mean LOLRADICAL

>Mamizou and Tomoe Mami or sometimes Mimazou.
I've never heard that.

>>10393223
It is worse, much much worse.
The thinngs you mentioned can be put off as the shenenigans of children.
You really are pretentious and like one of these old man who tell kids to get off their lawn.

Not saying that these shenenigans are likeable, I dislike them too.
But transfering that hate onto that touhou even though it's not her fault and even going out of your way to insult anyone who likes them even though they are obviously not like these horrible fun that's just....Man I dare to say that you are worse than the people you hate

>>10393242
They still won't be as bad as Flan or Cirno's.

>>10393249
>Huh? I don't get it. Unless you mean LOLRADICAL
You really missed how many shops there were of her pose?

>I've never heard that.
People have gone on about this for a while, it was probably the only reason Mamizou was popular for a while.

Thank you for posting these horrible images just to try and prove a point. You're truly a shining beacon of hope for the Touhou fanbase for saving and posting it on a blue board.

>>10393230
Oh, did I? It sure looks like the entire point to me.

Nice reaction image, by the way.

>>10393213
>objectively

If you had any sort of credibility before, it's completely gone now.

Anyway, I'm not going to give you proof of anything since 1. I don't have any reasons for educating you regarding this or any other subject and 2. I haven't actually claimed anything. You on the other hand did, but I can't give less than a fuck about it since I know what's correct and what isn't.

If you want to be one of those morons who thinks that one of his favorite characters is flawless and has the best fandom and whatever, feel free to do so. Just don't expect people not to call you an idiot when you decide to speak of that.

Discussion is over. Feel free to continue arguing pointlessly with others here, though.

>>10393266
Sorry, I missed some spoiler tags.

>>10393281

>>10393280
>Oh, did I?
Yep, you did.

>It sure looks like the entire point to me.
This follows logically from the above.

>>10393280
> hipster is someone who just hates something because it's popular, regardless if it's good or not. A Hipster spends their time liking things that are super obscure and underground that no one would know and busy rubbing in your face about how "superior" their tastes are just because they actually look around places just to find something they so called "like" and the moment it becomes popular they start to hate it.

And yet, you somehow interpreted that as
>Okay, I get it, a hipster is not just someone with an OPINION. A hipster is someone with an OPINION supported by more experience that you have.
A hipster is only half-way like that, sure they have so called experience, but they act as if they have superior taste just because look for things that are obscure and underground even if it's bad.
Also
>Nice reaction image, by the way.
trying too hard to fit in.

>>10393202
>>10393226
Guys, explain to me how did you manage to miss OHIO?

>>10393270
> I haven't actually claimed anything.
...Do you have a learning disability?

>>10393177
>Thanks for the chuckle.
This was you implying that I was wrong, and you also made a claim Patchouli has just as many retarded fans as Flan or Cirno, which is also wrong.

I'm not saying Patchouli doesn't have her share of bad fans (OMG SHE LOOOOOOOOOOOVES MARISA, MUKYUU MUKYUU) but if you're really, honestly saying that it's anywhere near the volume of either of those two then you're delusional.

>>10393301
Ohayous are not a phenomenon specific to any particular Touhou.

>>10393301
Ohayou's are a good thing though. It generates OC.

>>10393306
Can you explain to me how someone posting BAKA BAKA is worse than somebody posting a doujin of a dismembered Orin having her eyes raped out?

I honestly don't understand how you can find this to be the case.

>>10393306
The problem with you is that you're only saying these characters are bad BECAUSE of their fans. If you honestly think that about anything, how can you even like anything? People have stated in this thread that the only way to actually notice their fandoms is to TRY to find them.

>>10393321
>If you honestly think that about anything, how can you even like anything?
Because not everything has a bad fanbase?

>>10393300
So, as I said, it sure looks like the entire point to me. The rest is just a poor attempt at rationalizing things away.

>trying too hard to fit in

Irony. Or rather, another nice example of rationalizing away something inconvenient to your self-esteem.

>>10393339
>Because not everything has a bad fanbase?
Yes, yes it does.

>>10393321
Are you deliberately ignoring my questions?

I don't feel that I am putting things into your mouth. What you have stated in this thread suggests a position that I simply do not understand, and I want to know why you hold it.

>>10393339
>Because not everything has a bad fanbase?
You think? Name me your favourite touhou and I will easily find some retarded comment on youtube from her fan.

>>10393308
That's debatable. They have one face, and it's none other but Kyouko. Quite literally.

>>10393340
>So, as I said, it sure looks like the entire point to me.
It's a term used used to describe:

- someone who likes unpopular things because they are unpopular, and dislike popular things because they are popular.

How you managed to equate this to:

- someone with an OPINION supported by more experience that you have.

is utterly beyond me.

Out of 10 how much would you do Flan?

>>10393340
>The rest is just a poor attempt at rationalizing things away.
Rationalizing what? I'll agree that I was wrong and had misread you a bit, but i'll assure you nothing was rationaling.

>Irony.
There was no irony, the fact that you felt the need to even point out the reaction image was you trying to act as if you're superior for not using one an imageboard site, where said reaction images are usually used to convey emotion in a post.

>>10393361
I don't think you're talking to the same guy, but seriously, see posts made like >>10392979 >>10392906 or >>10393052

>>10393373
I'm sorry, I was pointing at the wrong poster.

>>10393306
Are you deliberately ignoring my questions?

I don't feel that I am putting things into your mouth. What you have stated in this thread suggests a position that I simply do not understand, and I want to know why you hold it.

>>10393356
Many of them do, but many of them use more than the Kyouko face template. Either way it still is a good thing.

Man, I wish threads about certain characters wouldn't descend into shit, at least ruin Sanae threads guys. She's a legitimate horrible character.

>>10393410
Can you explain to me how someone posting BAKA BAKA is worse than somebody posting a doujin of a dismembered Orin having her eyes raped out?

I honestly don't understand how you can find this to be the case.

>>10393380
>Are you deliberately ignoring my questions?
Which posts are yours?

>>10393412
>Can you explain to me how someone posting BAKA BAKA is worse than somebody posting a doujin of a dismembered Orin having her eyes raped out?
I don't see that kind of stuff because I don't go on Ex looking for guro. You can go to any other website and find retarded Touhou secondaries.

What can I say, idiocy annoys me.

>>10393371
Let's do this step by step. Let's remove subjectivity first:

>hipster is someone who just hates something because it's popular. A Hipster spends their time liking things that are super obscure and underground and busy rubbing in your face about how "superior" their tastes are just because they actually look around places just to find something they "like" and the moment it becomes popular they start to hate it.

Let's then turn angry rambling and blaming the other person into objective statements:

>hipster is someone who just hates something because it's popular. A Hipster spends their time liking things that I've never heard of and I feel threatened by it because they actually look around places just to find something they like and the moment it becomes popular they start to hate it.

Let's then remove statements about the inner mental state of the other person that you cannot prove without direct admission from them:

>hipster is someone who doesn't like something popular. A Hipster spends their time liking things that I've never heard of and I feel threatened by it because they actually look around places just to find something they like.

Now, we've defined "not liking what I like" as OPINION, so let's substitute that in:

>hipster is someone with an OPINION. A Hipster has an OPINION about things that I've never heard of and I feel threatened by it because they actually look around places just to make up their OPINION.

And we're basically there.

>>10393420
Then don't go to those fucking websites! I don't usually go out of my way to look for guro or rape or bestiality, but occasionally I find it when I'm looking through circle websites (even of circles whose other works I like very much) and it's an occupational hazard of visiting those websites. Why can't you just, you know, not visit those sites that piss you off so fucking much?

>>10393420
>You can go to any other website and find retarded Touhou secondaries.
For example? Do you rewatch Cirno's Perfect Math every night or something? I just checked that video - it's full of ponies and /b/, but not a single BAKA XD comment.

>>10393428
Alright, I think we've concluded that you're a completely hopeless retard. Moving on.

What else would I pour my lust into besides Suwako's belly?

>>10393447
inb4 I win you lose

>>10393428
>Let's do this step by step.
I'll boil it down a bit, to the key point.

>Let's remove subjectivity first:
>A hipster is someone who just hates something because it's popular.

>Let's then turn angry rambling and blaming the other person into objective statements:
>A hipster is someone who just hates something because it's popular.

>Let's then remove statements about the inner mental state of the other person that you cannot prove without direct admission from them:
No, that's where you fucked up. The definition of a hipster is what we have just said above. The fact that you don't know whether someone is a hipster because you can't look into their head is irrelevant to the definition - a sadist is someone who enjoys inflicting pain on others. Now, you can't know that someone is a sadist without their direct admission, because you can't see inside an alleged sadist's head either. Just because he kicked a dog down a flight of stairs doesn't mean he's a sadist. Maybe the dog just killed the baby or something and he's distraught. But you can look watch him kick the dog, and you can conclude that he's a sadist, even if you're wrong. And the fact that you may be wrong doesn't change the definition of "sadist."

>>10393435
>Why can't you just, you know, not visit those sites that piss you off so fucking much?
I'd have to stop going on the internet as a whole to not encounter secondary assholes.

>>10393465
Where exactly are you going that you encounter these horrid Touhou secondaries all the time?

>>10393428
>hipster is someone who just hates something because it's popular. A Hipster spends their time liking things that I've never heard of and I feel threatened by it because they actually look around places just to find something they like and the moment it becomes popular they start to hate it.
That's not even close to, anything really, yes they actually look around for things, the problem is, is that they act superior just because they do so. You seem to have completely dodged the >and the moment it becomes popular they start to hate it.
part.

>>10393056
I remember when 2haus was special and unique that no one (western) knew about, let alone any run-of-the-mill pre-teen internet fag

So what if she is popular? Not that she is the worst Touhou character anyway.

I mean she may not be the best but still.

>>10393420
If you really can't like something that has a bad fanbase why do you like touhou?
It's fanbase is almost as cancerous as MLP and furries, the existence of this board is proof of that.

Also how do you find annoying Flandre and Cirno fans on every website?
I use youtube alot to watch touhou videos and I'm here everyday, but I never personally talked to such people.
You MUST be seeking them, it's almost like you are seeking people and go out of your way to annoy and insult people with certain favourite touhous even if they don't belong to the bad group.

You really are worse than these BAKABAKA people, they at least stay in their little forums and youtube

>>10393478
>It's fanbase is almost as cancerous as MLP and furries,
No.

>>10393478
>Also how do you find annoying Flandre and Cirno fans on every website
They aren't on every website, but more of them exist than do fans of other touhous.
Like I said, look on any other touhou site and you'll see it, and maybe even some non touhou sites like tumblr or reddit or something

>>10393478
>it's almost like you are seeking people and go out of your way to annoy and insult people with certain favourite touhous even if they don't belong to the bad group.
No, I don't hate all flan or cirno fans, just the meme spamming autists.

>>10393464
In other words, you can watch someone dislike something popular and conclude from that that he dislikes it solely because it's popular, and he actually hates it.

Okay.

Now, the remaining riddle is whether you think that:
- everyone needs to like popular things because they're popular
or:
- popular things are popular because it's in everyone's nature to like them

Since one of those two is necessary to be able infer all that from someone's unpopular OPINION.

>>10393497
>Like I said, look on any other touhou site and you'll see it, and maybe even some non touhou sites like tumblr or reddit or something
Then stop visiting these other Touhou sites that you hate so much. If they're sites where only the comments are shitty, stop reading the comments. If you don't want to read shitty Touhou memes on Tumblr, don't read shitty Touhou tumblrs. If you don't want to see shitty Touhou memes on Reddit, don't go to shitty Touhou reddits. It is really not that fucking hard.

>No, I don't hate all flan or cirno fans, just the meme spamming autists.
If you really don't hate Flandre or Cirno and just their fans, then your very first post in the thread, the one that ignited this whole shitstorm, contained a meme. Take a look at yourself. Christ.

>>10393499
>A hipster is someone who just hates something because it's popular, regardless if it's good or not
>regardless if it's good or not
You dodged this too huh.

>>10393499
>In other words, you can watch someone dislike something popular and conclude from that that he dislikes it solely because it's popular, and he actually hates it.
Someone was called a hipster because, supposedly, "Flandre fans are everywhere and you can't ignore them." Now, he's not necessarily a hipster, but I can see why somebody suggested why he might have that mentality. Nobody calls someone a hipster solely because he thinks, say, Lady Gaga is shit. Different people will have different standards for busting out the dreaded H-word but it's usually not the instant one-two jump you suggest it is.

>>10393470
>You seem to have completely dodged the >and the moment it becomes popular they start to hate it. part.

I have explained the reason for its removal, though arguably not well enough. I removed it because assessing something like that, while possible to do objectively despite my hastily written description of the step claiming the contrary, requires you to observe a person for a long time. This is impossible to do with Anonymous posters you don't know at all, so it won't apply to someone you meet on 4chan all the same.

>>10393497
Well, it's your god damn own fault for going on tumblr or reddit while not being braced for retards.

Where did this all start anyways....Oh right, you called her the worse touhou.
Could you in future please refrain from saying that and instead say "touhou with the most bad fans"?
That's a compromise I could settle with.
There is no worse touhou in my opinion, and measuring the "quality" of a touhou by it's fanbase even though they have nothing to do with how the touhou is like seems silly

>>10393537
>requires you to observe a person for a long time.
N-no, no you don't. Hipsters usually state they like something before it was popular. Which would usually indicate that they now dislike it.

>>10393497
>Like I said, look on any other touhou site and you'll see it
gensokyo.org forums and board
shrinemaiden forums
touhou project com
pooshlmer
I don't see it there. Serisouly, what touhou sites do you visit? Even danbooru comments don't have any BAKA XD comments (unless they are from 4 years ago).

>>10393537
It also takes careful observation to tell if someone is a troll or a moron, but people throw the terms around anyway. People get impressions.

>>10393555
That's not it at all and is some sort of ridiculous understanding. They may still enjoy it very much. The reason they say it is because a hipster never wants to be accused of jumping on something just because it's popular. It would destroy all their hipster cred. So when they say they were into something before it became popular, they're preemptively defending themselves from accusations of being a bandwagoning faggot. "I worked hard to find this underground label. I'm not a Johnny-come-lately like you."

>>10393539
>Well, it's your god damn own fault for going on tumblr or reddit while not being braced for retards.
I go on neither, doesn't change the fact that it still exists.

>>10393584
A doujin of Orin having her eyes crushed because somebody wanted to fuck her eye sockets also exists in places you don't go.

Aren't Remi and Sakuya always higher than Flan in the polls?

>>10393555
Okay, of course, direct admission works too. But it does not apply in this case, since...

>>10393524
That person also claims to hate Flandre, period. Looks more like a simple case of "stop liking what I dislike" to me.

>>10393586
Pretty much, At least 2012's was a Scarlet Sandwich with Marisa flavored cheese and turkey. With Sakuya in 2nd place I think.
Sakuya fans have their PA-*knifed* and cry why she hasn't appeared anymore, and Remi fans have their CHARISMA and nosebleeds to her kawaiidesuloliness, Flan gets this, but not as much as Remi and Chen.

>>10393603
I don't have any actual basis for this idea, but I feel like Koishi and Nue gave Flandre a non-trivial popularity boost because they're paired or tripled up so often.

>>10393595
>"stop liking what I dislike"
A hipster isn't like that, hipsters are more of elitists, they look down on your tastes and act like their taste in obscure and underground things are superior to yours, even if the said obscure things are bad.

>>10392507
This.

>>10392585
Pretty much all of them. Her theme actually earned her a spot on my favourite list. I don't even care about the shit she gets because the majority of her fans are retards.
I heard her theme before even seeing her, liked it and thus wanted to see her without looking at any fan art. So when I did finally see her from playing the games I very much liked her design.

>>10393572
>People get impressions.

Well, accusations of trolling are also being thrown without much insight despite requiring a lot of it. It's also pretty much a convenient buzzword for someone saying things you don't like, regardless of the word actually meaning something originally. I kinda see what you're getting at, but I'd probably deride most people accusing others of trolling in similar way I did here.

>Johnny-come-lately

"Niwaka" seems to be a popular term for this lately.

>>10393618
Well, that's my point, that person never did most of those things. People "got impressions".

What the fuck is this thread even about anymore

>>10393651
No idea. Flandre is pretty cute though, and she has a fun theme and design. So, I don't think her increasing popularity is unwarranted.

>>10393651
Touhou "fans" arguing about who's the superior "fan." さすが/jp/.

Breaking fucking news: the more popular a Touhou is the more retarded fans she has.

Since Flan's design and theme are so fucking popular she has legions of fans. And with them tons of retards.

If you think that justifies the whole "worst 2hu xD" bullshit you are no better than those retards.

>>10394011
>If you think that justifies the whole "worst 2hu xD" bullshit you are no better than those retards.
But it does.

She's the worst touhou because of her legion of morons.

>>10394405
Why did you bump this shit thread you piece of shit, and you proved the person you were replying to's point you stupid fucking piece of shit. Why do you even exist? Just erase yourself, no one will honestly care. Just go you fucking annoyance, mouth breather, space taker, shit sucker, MISUNDERSTOOD GENUIS.