/jp/ - Otaku Culture

what do you guys think of this mask? i'm tempted to buy one.

any of you are kigs?
what do you do? just masturbate alone?

>>10377702
I hope you're not serious.

>>10377742
If I knew of other kigs Id be a kig myself and have sekcs with them

do you think kigurumi will get bigger and in the future everyone will be a kig?

>>10377702

goobi pls

How long can one dress in a kigurumi outfit before they start to smell?

>>10377742
I am, and no, I don't.

>>10377983
whats the appeal then, just looking cute?
seems like a waste do you do camshows or something

>>10377992
Looking and acting cute. Kigurumi isn't all about masturbating as your favorite animu character. Interacting with people at conventions is a fun experience.

I cam occasionally.

>>10377702
i dont like it personally,its okay for the doll theme but really its terrible for doing any anime character
(i do like his other masks though, pic related)

>>10377794
i doubt it, it might get a bit bigger but to many people find it creepy (i dont think it will ever have the same amount as the furry community )

>>10377905
A long time.

>>10378766
I definitely find it very creepy, it's a mixture of reality and 2D that is just so unsettling to look at. I also had a nightmare once where one was actually talking to me and every movement it made was horrifying, along with the nature of mockery of me it seemed to have.

>>10379048
Trade your dreams with me.

What does /kig/ think of Miina and her popularity?

>>10379272
i think shes a good kig but i bet 50% of her fans only like her because shes a girl (like i said a good kig either way)

>>10379373

That certainly has something to do with it but I think she has some pretty high quality costumes, too. And she knows how to market herself as a fulltime kig, not just someone who occasionally dresses up and takes pictures.

I have an idea.

I want to make a kig, of a character from a live action show. Malshina, from Akibaranger. The mask would be modeled after the sculpt used for the Malshina Figuarts. It looks remarkably like her, yet is a stylized anime version of her.

Thoughts?

Haven't seen a nightmare inducing thread like this in a good few minutes.

>>10379738
im not sure how well it would be received, really its kind of counter productive
>you take a real life person make a stylized figure of them then try and take that stylized figure back into real life
im not sure how well that would work because its modeled after the figure people who havent seen the figure wont know who she is (without the uniform) which isnt something you want to happen
however from your pic she looks like she could make a good kig ( unusual but good)

Here are penetration vids:
TKG-01 http://www.filecrop.com/80899274/index.html
TKG-02 http://www.filecrop.com/79578307/index.html
TKG-03 http://www.filecrop.com/78711831/index.html
TKG-04 http://www.filecrop.com/78742429/index.html

>>10379738
As long as you can pull off her figure she'd make a good kig

>>10379819
>people who havent seen the figure wont know who she is (without the uniform)
I dunno, that figuarts looks almost scary like her, like, it's freaky how well her face translates to an anime character.

>>10381488
well i havent see the source material im just assuming it doesnt but yeah if it does and youve got the figure go ahead

>try and find a chracter you like which suits your body type/shape/face for cosplay if the chracter doesnt it just wont look good

this rule is less so when it comes to kigurumi(because you dont count the face) but i think it still apllies

>>10377983
A kig! If i may ask/request, would you show us how your kig looks like?

>>10382218

>>10382464
implications that Claire would post here. Nice try though

>>10382464
i frankly doubt claire would post here

>>10383533
im kawaii right

>>10382464
A wyu mask, but still cute tho~!

>>10384051
What a cute mask for Mik--
>notice body armor and gun
wait. what.

Anyone have any tips for long wigs with ends that won't hang down even after combing?(Could just be a low quality wig)

I am infatuated with this. where and how do I get these masks, and how do I make them

>>10386497
http://kigup.com/page/WhereToBuyKigurumhtml

First we have this: >>10377702
And now this: >>10385017

/jp/... What has happened to you..? You use to know what cute really meant.

>>10386685
I used to wonder what cuteness could be...

>>10386042
Always wear protection

>>10386793
until you shared nightmarish doll costumes with me.

>>10386539
>tfw most of the links are inactive..

>>10388507
freaky doll masks, tons of drama

>>10389151
obvious men, who call you sis~

>>10389289
penetration is a wily bitch~
and wyufags make it all complete

>>10389326
dumb kigurumi
don't you know you'll always be ugly on the inside------

>>10389380
*clap*

I'd fuck a lot of these just because of my latex/spandex/vinyl/etc fetish

>>10389589
I'd wear one of these due to my latex/spandex/ infinite other fetishes, but the more I think about it the more I think I don't want to have sex. I think my ideal would be to have a nice, kinky girl to talk with about interesting books and social rejection.

>>>/gif/5433338

A WILD /V/ APPROACHES

You're telling me that dudes dress up as anime girls, then go out in public?? Hahaha what the fuck man, how far down the slippery slope is that. Thanks for making me feel better about my life guys. Last time I ever leave /v/

>>10390426
Never change, /v/

can anyone selfpost..?

it's oim the only one who thinks that this shit its freaking scary?

>>10395090
No you're not. These threads should be in /d/.

>>10395099
do you know where you should post your opinion about 4chan's policies?
>>>/q/

>>10395099
LOL

>>10395149
nice outfit and a nice figure shame the mask ruined it

creepy as fug

Do any of you guys do this?
will you be willing to selfpost and give tips?

>>10396184
That is just damned cute

>>10400223
Posting to 4chan and being from the community itself is the quickest way to get labeled a "problem causer" by Wyu followers which now makes up the majority of the English speaking community.

>>10400346

There is at least 1 kig who openly posts in these threads, or at least used to. I haven't seen them around here in quite a while. Which is a shame, she was quite cute and very informative.

Where did Lucy go? She was extremely cute and helpful.

>>10400575
>she

Ill just say this.. people who come on here and post other performers pics just to see if they can get a rise out of people here to post negative things about that person is just pathetic.. kigurumi is a fun and outgoing hobby that many will never understand.. dont knock what you dont know

>>10401605
Think that's why this one hasn't been showing up. Other then that she tends to talk about her personal life to those who deem worthy friends to her.

>>10401613
personally i think shes really cute (if a bit attention seeking, but then that basically a requirement if you do kig)

>>10396330
Where can i get that suit?
I remember gakou studio having it... What happened.

>>10401663
>>10401613
What is your opinion of tsuki?

>>10401685
weird question out of the blue but whatever
honestly usually my way of judging kigs is first their mask and if thats on par then i pay more attention to the acting/personality the kig is trying to portray when i say cute i generally mean how they act not just how they initially look this applies to all kigs
so yeah shes cute

bedtime bump

>>10406297
Keep it in your own 'janishit' threads. Don't shit up other peoples' threads.

Hey anon, which japanese mask maker takes commission from oversea?

Anyone happen to know what happened to this japanese costume board? http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/anime/846/

>>10406851
some dumbass filled it with porn so the owner closed it.

>>10406863
So like is there any other Threads? How many more?

>>10406863
Only normals use the word "dumbass", please refrain from posting it in the future.

>>10407029
so says the dumbass that thinks he owns this thread. sad dude. really sad.

>>10407029
>>10407057
Now now you two, less drama more kigurama.

>>10406754
not japanese but i know GKO does (theyre in asia ) and gaka im not sure beyond that but yoyu could probably get masks from most non european sellers its just a pain in the arse

want to see more of this mask.

>>10401665
It was a one time bulk order thing.

You can contact him and see if there is a way to get it though.

Kigs are just so god damned cute. I wish I had the spare cash to do this.

Does anyone know the maker of this mask?

I really wish kigs recorded more cute videos.

>>10409898
http://www.buildupstudiosigma.com/

>>10410429

Thank you!

>>10407336
#firstworldproblems
Has money, no japanese mask masker

>>10409088
What do i tell him?
A PVC zentai/suit?

has anyone managed to buy the "doll girls" videos?

>>10410873
shame this maker stoped selling i really like his/her masks

This thread is really sad, It's like you guys have chosen fantasy over reality.

Where do I get one?

>>10411500

I didn't choose the kig life, the kig life chose me.

How good would it be to be a model at Sigma, getting to try on the latest cute mask and pose!

Needs more dancing kigs

>>10411693
Normally i'm just interested in the mask but can anyone tell me what shoes is she/he wearing?

>>10412133
he's obsessed.

why is kyonko kig so good?

although I prefer the purple heart one

>>10412465
That pixelation is just perfect.

>>10412474
yeah I just knew I had to post it here when I spotted it

>>10409929

Where is this from? Looks like kigurumi-ska.com but I can't find that picture there.

>>10412512
reverse image search points here http://nanana.xii.jp/?log=201002182007

>>10412465
>>10412495
Got anymore Kurisu kigurumis?

>>10412581
yeah, I saved a decent few of them from here
https://twitter.com/rin_piass59fxxk

tutturu~

>>10412678
ah, that's why I was getting a dupe image message

I'll leave my twitter pictures image dump for now to save putting more of a dent in the thread image limit

These S;G pics are great. Please, post more if you have any.

>>10412652
Thanks

>>10412730
besides the twitter link above, I just remembered that I had these saved

I hate all of you people.

god I love this kig

>>10401207
took a bit of a break.

>>10412698

What's the twitter account for these images?

>>1041092
I'm not sure if this came up because you e-mailed them or if it's just amazing timing
http://goukaou.blog131.fc2.com/blog-ent-258.html

>>10413941
Oh hey, i didnt emailed them... I was waiting if any anon would reply me and yea its amazing timing.
Or maybe they watched this thread too.

/jp/ do u think kigs should be in a certain weight range to do kig?

>>10414202

100% yes

As long as by "Weight range" you mean "Certain body type and weight" and not an actual definitive weight range.

Playing with the size of the mask can help taller/bigger people portray smaller characters but there are definite limits.

How much are those suits going to cost?

What does kig stand for, or is it an abbreviation for something?

>>10414768
Kigurumi

>>10414594

A mask generally costs about $800USD to $1000USD

A bodysuit will set you back upwards of $100USD

Plus all the cute costumes add up quite quickly. It's generally advised you don't start trying to kig with less than at least $1500 or $2000 preferebaly.

>>10414960
Why would a mask be upward to $1000? The materials look like less than $25 to me.

>>10415295
Oil Clay 15.00-25.00 USD depending on amount needed for size of head
Silicone - 150.00-250.00 USD
Plaster - 10.00-25.00 USD
Resin 10-20.00 USD
Fiberglass matt 5.00-10.00 USD
Eyes(printed) 10.00-20.00 depending on material USD
Sandpaper 10.00-20.00 USD
Paint 10.00-40.00 USD depending on type
Wigs 25.00-150.00 USD depending on amount
needed and length
Hair product 15.00+ USD

Tools needed to complete a mask include a air brush, a air compressor, a sander, a glue gun, a sewing machine (if you decide to make the wig removable), hot glue, hair cutting tools, etc

Labor includes intense sanding, a skill level for sculpting, a eye for painting, talent for hair styling, etc

At the very least a mask should cost 500.00 USD but depending on skill level and how long the mask maker has been in production prices will vary.

So no, a mask cannot be made on 25.00 USD alone unless you simply don't care about how others perceive your performance and talent as a artist.

>>10415295

This is a perfect example of the dunning-kruger effect.

>>10411765

Does anyone have the video or know where I can find it of this?

Just saw this link on twitter from

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?lust_id=33140652&mode=medium

>>10416319

*from @tetetoroort

>>10415295
I don't know how people possibly think these look cheap. I'd love to see someone try to make a mask with the same level of sculpt/curve detail, smoothness, and hair quality as the pro ones for under 100 bucks. You don't just get a sized-up figurine head shape from playing around with paper mâché or whatever. All masks I've seen attempted from cheaper materials look awful.

>>10416599
I'd love to see people succeed though.

>>10416599
yea, it's not like regular cosplays, where there's ways to "cheat" and save money while still looking pretty good. you either have to go big or go home if you want to look good with kigurumi.

>>10416694
Well if 3D printers get cheaper in the next few years that could become the new standard for DIY masks.

>>10416869
Apparently people can start 3D printing for USD2000 nowadays, and there's a way to get the 'ink' for the printer for almost zero cost too (excluding the plastic extruder machine's cost). So, less than USD4000 startup cost for fuck cheap 3D printing in the long run.

>>10377696

>>>/s/

>>10416694
oh of course. It'd be great to be able to buy these things for cheaper for sure.

I'd love one of those big fancy 3D printers, the powder type.

>>10414225
yes thats what I mean srry for not being clear

whats anons opinion on kigs in the last few years?

>>10415409
>Silicone - 150.00-250.00 USD
NOPE, BULLSHIT. A 2lb set of Smooth-On Rebound silicone is only $30. And you definitely don't even need the whole thing if you're using it correctly.

Sure, if you're making a shitload of masks, you might want the 18lb, $183 kit, but that's a fucking lot of silicone.

Also, if you're paying $150 for a wig, you're shopping in the wrong damn places.

>>10417853
And don't get me wrong, $600-800 is certainly a fair price for a kig mask, but labor is absolutely the bulk of the price; I haven't make one myself, but I've used the same processes in other cosplay stuff, and it's definitely a lot of work.
Let's just not inflate the material costs, y'know?

>>10417889
180.00 USD would be combined wig price. If your only using one wig for a mask your not using enough.

>>10417853
No need to be so hostile visiting anon. Also, most masks require 2 + wigs. The heads are rather large.

>>10417853
$150 for 3 wigs sounds about right. a kig mask is much too big for a single wig

>>10417853
>>10417889
Assuming you buy cheap wigs $150 would be too much even for three wigs but quality really shows. Even three decent wigs from Arda would still be $35-$40 for each wig. I'd always get longer to style and possibly use the cuts (making hot glue wefts) for other things/bangs. So $35x3=$105, $40x3=$120 and if you prefer a even higher quality wig (Im very partial to Cyperous) then you are talking about $60-/+ not to mention shipping/handling fees. so $150+ for wigs not inflating. I'd rather pay the price and have the right materials than do something super cheap. Also I have never seen cheap kig turn out to be good kig. I have seen some cheap cosplay turn out okay or even good looking in pics but in person it still looks cheap.

>>10417853
the 2lb from smooth on is only barely enough for a mask, and the mold will be almost too thin to even use, I know from experience. You'd have to buy a tub or the same price in bottles anyway.

Thing is your pricing in the costs of the molds etc that should be leveled with how many masks can be pulled. The prices are more than 50% labor maybe even 75% since that $800USD does not often include a wig. Most of the masks are FRP or resin glass. I have done a lot of this stuff for props and crap and once the molds are done the costs are not cheap but not so much that a mask cannot be made for 200USD. Good example are the Wars helmets that sell finished for about $200USD and those have many more fine details molded in. So labor and people willing to pay the fee makes the bulk of the costs.

Also silicone or the casting material you do not want more for a firmer mold, you back it with supporting material like resin or plaster. 2lbs is a bit thin though. given the lack of fine details a silicon mold would probably last a styles lifetime. 50 or more casts before it goes.

I would consider a different method like pulling masks with thick lexan or selling kits, just the raw cast frp or a near finished cast. Again those trooper helmets are available as kits where you finish the paint and or custom details.

Guess it is how you want to run the business. I think most makers do not want it to mainstream much. I remember seeing images of mask kits or lower cost blanks for sale at one of the cons and the comments on the blogs were not to nice.

I might be tempted to do this, it would take ages to get the nack of anime face though. That and well I couldn't do kig so motivation besides making some spare cash.

I'm a kigurumi, but I haven't had the time for it, don't have the body for it, don't have a good camera, don't have good costumes, and don't have a good environment for pictures. Also, my mask is unusual. Not posting pictures.

>>10419696
Then why even make that post?

Photos now you whore.

>>10419735
I already gave reasons. My mask is by Kawaii Ltd.

>>10419735
Oh wow. I just noticed Ranko is the e-type sample now! I had to tell someone. I thought maybe we were forgotten.
http://kawaii-ltd.com/alice/sales/

There she is, but unfortunately, I haven't been able to make any good pictures.

>>10419751
Your reason for making a post is that you don't want to post anything other than "I do kig but I have no desire to talk about it! Later!"?

Fuck off, attention whore.

>>10419818
I just wanted to post. Calm down.

>>10419826
Well, you knew the audience you were posting to, so what the fuck?

Redundant as hell.

>>10419871
Sounds like someone has their pantsu all tangled up!

>>10416869
I've 3D printed a kig mask (as far as I can tell, I am the first to have done this) and plan to be taking commissions very soon. Materials for the whole mask cost me around $140 (the amount of plastic used costs around $30). I plan to sell generic masks for around $500 and fully custom ones for around $700. I'm convinced that this is by far the best way to make kig masks.

>>10420026
Interesting, do you have like a website?
Or anywhere so we can take a look at the photos and order from you?

>>10420026
Interested to see how these turn out.

>>10420040

Would have posted a picture, but the thread has hit the limit. I don't have my own site yet, but I have posted on Facebook and Wyu's forum quite a bit (I also have a DeviantArt profile but haven't updated it for quite a long time).

(I'm /justinbailey2430 on Facebook; the album with build pictures is called "Mask project: Erika")

>>10420040
I don't have a site of my own yet, but Google justinbailey2430 and you'll find me

http://www.mediafire.com/download.p?3gze0czbbfjr7s2

This is an untranslated kig manga.

>>10420153
Wow, thanks for the link.

>>10420114
Found you on deviantart.
But your mask base looks like wyu.
Cant it be more round like the japanese mask on the top instead of a "flat face"

>>10420026
Love how people nay say the price for people who actually hand make the kigs and all the labor/materials that go in on it yet they still cry out its to expensive even through the true return is min. Yet here with 3d printing the cost is significantly cheaper $140 yet still charging just about as much with a larger profit margin. Each their own.

Wyu's masks, I both love them and at times dislike them. I'm interested to see more styles and I can definitely tell Wyu's improving with time.

>>10420712
All of Wyu's masks look the same and it takes him too long to notice the issues in his design. The wyu mask I saw had duck tape along the opening and some of the gumminess of the tape had started showing. Not a fan of Wyu.

>>10420712

ABS filament is a little cheaper than FRP, although not by a lot. The cost savings from 3D printing are far more significant for fully custom masks than for generic ones (since there is no need for clay or silicone, and it is possible to start from a copy of an existing model and customize it rather than having to build up the basic shape from scratch for every new mask design). Also, it's not like you just hit print and you get a finished mask out. I print in segments due to both the limitations of the FFF/FDM printing process and the build envelope of my printer. There's also all the other finishing work, which is about the same as for any other mask (a bit less sanding is required, but otherwise there's not much of a difference).

>>10420193

I haven't updated my deviantART page for a while. I think what you're seeing is my old test model, not the mask that I actually finished. I'll update it soon.

>>10421701
Do you know what i'm talking about?
"Flat" face and "Round" face...

Any Japanese here?

>>10421701
The mask you have on facebook is actually pretty cute. Already better than Wyu crap.

Keep it up, can't wait to see more

>>10421701
I'd love to see the sorts of masks you can produce. Since you're modeling on the computer, have you thought about using different anime styled pictures as bases for different styles? It'd be great to see more unique masks than the more Wyu-styled one you have (which is still cute). I know that for someone just starting out that it's hard to get the style right at first without heavy referencing, though.

>>10422838

I'm not sure what you mean. Which part exactly are you saying is too flat?

Are you talking about the images on DA which are just of a test model that I experimented with before making a real mask, or about the mask that I actually made (which I haven't posted about on DA yet)? The test mask was just that - a test. I used it as a starting point for my first real mask, but there is very little that is the same between the two.

>>10422864

Not sure what's with all the Wyu hate here. Sure, I'd like to see more variation (and especially more custom shells for kigs of established characters, which is a major reason why I am getting into mask making) in kig in the West, but I think Wyu's masks are decent (I've never actually seen one in person, though). I've seen quite a few masks that I like a whole lot less than any of Wyu's masks.

>>10423015
I just got an idea. What if somebody particularly skilled in 3D models convert head models/wire mesh from games/anime/MMD/etc into workable models in Blender or the like, refine/modify it and print a mask out of it?

>>10423063
That'd be pretty cool, but might be considered plagiarism unless the mask was being made for personal use. all fanart sorta rides that line anyway, but still. I'd thought of that too. Using such heads as reference would definitely be a good idea though.

>>10423015

Yes, that's basically what I'm planning to do (as I said before, ease of customization is a major advantage of 3D printing). I'm not actually going to start a new model from scratch for each custom shell, but instead copy an existing model and adjust it to match reference images, since the end result will be similar anyways.

>>10423063

Such models aren't really meant to be printed, and it would probably take quite a bit of work to make them printable. I think it's probably easier to just make a model that is actually intended for printing.

Hey, i just went to buildupstudio website and i can't find anything about commissioning custom mask (i have my own OC)
Help?

>>>/s/

>>10423606
>implying women

>>10423659
>implying costumes count as a feminism at all
>implying wearing a kig does make you a social outcast to the rest of japan population

>>10423594
do you live in Japan? If not tough luck, they don't sell overseas.

>>10423063
Not enough polygons. What looks good in those apps is due to fooling with smoothing and textures. A lot of the detail would have to be built into the base mesh, so much so that it is far easier to start from scratch.

>>10423087
Not that hard just need to make the mesh water tight. Issue is subdividing it enough to avoid any issues with the printing.

I have some experience with the types of 3d printing and doing prototype work. The finish on these lets say are not stellar. I dunno how strong it would be as a large object such as a mask. The ABS used is not shock resistant like say a vacuum formed helmet shell It is more like piles of melted plastic. These are the larger machines about the size of 2 or 3 large fridges. Additive printing has a strange structure and texture, even on the high rez printers. It requires a lot of finishing. Only printers I have seen that produce a smooth finish are more like a CNC mills. With a milling head to remove material VS heating it and printing it out like a inkjet or using a laser to harden resin in a liquid bath.

Image limit reached so no sample image!

>>10423594
I wish there was a way i could get a Sigma....

>>10423780

It didn't take much to sand off the external layering and get a smooth finish. I think that much less sanding is required than for an FRP or paperclay mask (there certainly aren't any bubbles or low spots that need to be filled like with FRP).

From what I've heard, standard FRP kig masks aren't particularly impact-resistant. A mask printed in ABS might even be more impact resistant than an FRP one.

>>10423836
This is not true. FRP is made stronger depending on what type of fiber is used. They even make bullet proof fibers.

Sanding also depends on the mold. Some molds require no sanding if it's a perfect mold and is made on a finished sculpt that has already been sanded smooth meaning no filler needs to be added.

>>10423957
it depends on how it's cured. if the mask maker doesn't vacuum down the FRP while it's curing, it tends to be a lot less sturdy.

>>10423836
I would also like to add that no mask maker on the market sells paperclay masks.

>>10423960
No, this is incorrect also. If you do fiberglassing correctly it is very sturdy. It does not have to be vacuumed down. I'm not saying that 3D printing is not a good way to go but I am saying that masks made with FRP are not cheap and breakable like it is being suggested in the above comments.

>>10423753
Possible to email them or get someone trusted in japan to get it for you?

>>10420153

awesome, would be nice to see more like that

>>10420153
Translated yet?