/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Hadaka Shitsuji - "Translation of the game has reached 100%, internal test patch covers Sakuma/Arisato/Mizoguchi/Yoshio/Aoki with Toudou in progress. Aiming for a November release."
Haganai portable - Youtube based translation ongoing, part 8 up
Higanbana 2 - overall 1147 / 5914 (19.39%) lines translated
Higurashi Daybreak - being translated
Hinomaru- 51% translated, common route patch released
Hunks Workshop - ~75% rough translation
>I/O - 86/251 scripts and 73/256 tips translated
Irotoridori no Sekai - 43,196/51,100 (84.53%) lines translated, full common route, Kana, Tsukasa, and Kyou route translated, prologue patch released
>Kanojotachi no Ryuugi - 2735/28555 (9.58%) lines translated
>Killer Queen: New translation started from scratch, 13/72 scripts translated and 12/72 scripts edited
Koitate - Ren and Yukino’s route patch released
Kono Mama ja, Ane to SEX Shite Shimau - 7.5%
Kud Wafter - 7757/33132 (23.41%) lines translated
Kurukuru Fanatic - 11.5% translated
Little Busters - Original released, work ongoing with EX./ME content, now a joint project with Doki. Sasami route fully translated
LoveMail: 13.6 % translated, 0% edited.
Majikoi- Yukie + Chris + Momoyo + Wanko + teacher route patch released, Miyako route 75% translated
>Majikoi S- Monshiro, Margit, and Kokoro routes patch out, Tsubame Route 80% translated, 35% edited, Momoyo 20% translated
M&M Enchanting Magic & Sweet Charms- 92%
Mahoutsukai no Yoru - 251.08/1221.51 (20.56%) kb translated
Maman Kyoushitsu - Saera Kanzaki and Honoka Mizushima routes patch released
Mirai no Uta to Tsunagaru Hitomi - 50% through the first past
Muv-Luv Altered Fable - partial patch released
>Natsuyume Nagisa - 2584/38142 (6.77%) lines translated. 1682/38142 (4.41%) lines edited
Oreimo PSP - Youtube based project, part 96.5 out
Pandora no Yume - 20% translated, engine hacked, scripts need to be extracted

Parfait- Translation planned
PersonA - 16% translated
>Princess Maker 5- 65% translated
Rance 4 - Translation started
Rance 6 - 51% Complete
Rance Quest - New translator working on it with overall progress 9356/110000 Lines (8.5%) Complete.
>Rewrite - 93838.55/101220 (92.71%) lines translated, common route and character route patch out
>Rose Guns Days‬ - Season 1 is 85% translated, 15% edited
Sapphism no Gensou - 59 scripts translated
Se-kirara - Being translated
Sensei Da-isuki 2- roughly 25% translated, still active
Shinigami no Kiss wa Wakare no Aji - Fully translated, 2 routes of editing and technical problems remain
SubaHibi - Down the Rabbit Hole I patch released, 33178/54201 (61.2%) lines translated and 32884/54201 (60.7%) lines edited
Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke wo 9- 7/18 scripts translated
Sumaga Special - KBs done: [1213.34kb/8131.54kb] (14.92%)
Tenshi No Inai 12-Gatsu- "Maho route fixed"
>Tenshin Ranman - Prologue patch released, 737.4/4560 (16.1%) translated
To Heart2- 65% translated- "The final product is still years away unless I get more help. ", new alpha patch released
Touka Gettan - translation status: ~40% translated
Welcome to Pia Carrot 2 - 1st draft translation 35%, as it was found much of the script was originally not dumped
White Album 2 - Overall: 5071/70253 (7.21%) lines translated, Introductory Chapter: 5071/10769 (47.08%) lines translated
Yandere - Resolving technical issues
>Yoakemae Yori Ruriiro Na - 100% translated, 51% edited
Yosuga no Sora - Translation status is Common route 100%, Sora route 100%, Nao 11.3%, Kazuha 100%, Akira 39.2%, Motoka 17.8%
Your Diary- Prologue patch released

Aroduc's secret project - On hold for now for technical reasons
Aroduc's secret project 2 - 431 scripts remaining
Rance Translations secret project - 82% complete

Official work

MangaGamer
Eroge - Possibly Beta in Jan, Winter release
Harukoi Otome - Through beta, Winter release
SSSS - In Beta, Winter release
Orion Heart - 100% translated, in insertion, 2013 release
>Tick Tack - 100% translated, 2013 release
Ef: The Latter Tale - work on hold until after minori's next release in Japan
Secret title - 27% translated, minor hint as the color "red", also "may or may not be filled with burning passion and hot action"
>Seeeki! Bukkake Bokujou: In Scripting
>Softhouse Seal title 2: 100% translated
>Todoroke Seiki no Daihatsumei - matches year end hint
>Chou Dengeki Stryker - matches year end hint
>Touma Kojirou no Tantei File - matches year end hint
>Kougyaku no Kishi Miles - matches year end hint
>Imouto Paradis - matches year end hint
Innocent Grey titles- talks on hold through Feb.
Talking with new company for story based stuff

JAST
Yumina the Ethereal - editing and debugging, "We will definitely finish it by AX 2013. "
Saya no Uta - 99% complete, have uncensored CGs
Hanachirasu - 99% complete
Django - Couple more months of translation
Kikokugai - Working out issues
>Sumaga- 81.91% complete, going through retranslation
Seinarukana- Translation expected to be complete by end of year. Testing to follow, ~44% translated
Starless - Work ongoing
Trample on Schatten- In translation
Muramasa - Common route complete, 2 of 5 chapters towards true end translated, uncertain what will come from the project
Steins;Gate - "QC Remaining: phone text", Jast may pick up the project

Other
Liar Soft would like to bring Steampunk titles over
The Night of Kamaitachi - release planned
World End Economica - Chapter 1 release planned at Fancy Frontier

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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread
A tracker for these threads put together by Tinfoil: http://vntls.tindabox.net/

Secret project updates in the secret thread.

This week there isn't any new about Mahoyo, and MG revealed some "secret" porn titles. So depressed

>Ayakashibito updating again

huhuhu

RGD doing good

Why Fione route in Aiyoku still have beta report?

Please fix it next week, VNTS

Is this moogydono

Boring.

>>10322496
please stop posting this picture thanks

regards
anonymous

When will JAST release something?

>>10322505
AX 2013

>>10322505
same time baldr sky updates again

JAST now interested in Otome. They announce in their twitter

>>10322532
If they release some 18+ otome game I might actually buy it.

>>10322505
A few weeks ago

>Chou Dengeki Stryker
So how is tht different from regular Dengeki Stryker? Should I hold off on reading the regular one or read it to be ready for this one?

Is it me or is I/O being translated kinda fast?

>>10322565
>5 months
>30% done
>previous project required two translation passes and then an editing pass

It's just you.

>>10322569

Added two routes

>>10322579
Okay.

>>10322579
6% a month is steady progress for a project of this size. It has a very large script.

>>10322607
No, it doesn't.

>>10322615
3.12 megabytes is an enormous amount of text. Essentially as much as clannad.

Any project over 3 mb in length should be realistically expected to take over a year. Anyone working more rapidly than that is unusually fast or (more likely) rushing things.

>>10322607
6% a month comes out to about 6 kb or 100 lines a day.

Do you want to know how that stacks up against a project that actually is fast?

so it seems Mangagamer will not stop until they translate every game from Softhouse-Seal,and as someone who dont love nukiges i hope they burn in the hell,well i didnt expect anything from them though.

Motherfucking JAAAAAST.
Will this be the year when Sumaga will finally be released? Five years... Five fucking years I've been waiting to play this. Now I'm beginning to lose interest. What the fuck, JAST? Just, What the fuck?

>Yoakemae, 51%
The editing is never gonna finish, is it?

>"We will definitely finish it by AX 2013. "
LOL OK JAST

>>10322708
It actually comes out to an average of about 150 lines a day, given a few days per month. This is 3-4 hours work if you actually put reasonable amounts of effort into writing something that reads well in English.

Your standards have been warped by Ixrec, who translates very quickly but very poorly.

>>10322744
>150 lines
>3-4 hours
>1-1.5 minutes per line
>fast translating

Oh. Okay. You're retarded. That clears a lot up.

>>10322716

Isn't the JAST translation team just one guy?

>>10322756
They hire outside people. Kirby is currently working on finishing off the Sumaga script (same reason no progress on Subahibi lately). It really should be out this year, barring ridiculous delays on the Nitro+ side.

>>10322726
on her twitter, sheeta said that she's gonna focused into editing Yoake AND translating AIR. not gonna comment to the latter since I believe it'll be awful

>>10322758
There's a difference between the density of visual novel lines and anime lines, which may be your standard of comparison here. Depends on the game obviously, but if you're spending less than a minute average you're probably not putting very much effort into making it sound competent in english.

>>10322766

No Rewrite ???

>>10322773
If you're spending an average of a minute writing each line, then you're not anywhere close to fluent in Japanese.

If you did not read Amaterasu's blog posts, it clears states that they will be translating these VNs after we finish Rewrite, in this order:

Dra†Koi [0.13 MB]
Coμ -Kuroi Ryuu to Yasashii Oukoku- [2.61 MB]
Rewrite: Harvest festa! [0.68 MB]
Hikari no Valusia ~What a Beautiful Hopes~ [1.48 MB]
Shi'ei no Sona-Nyl ~what a beautiful memories~ [0.99 MB]

>>10322781
Decoding a line should be instant. The process that takes time is writing the new line in fluent, natural English.

Japanese does not map 1:1 into English; in some cases, you may have to spend up to 30 minutes brainstorming to find a working solution for a tricky pun, for example.

>>10322791
That's nice. That's relevant for maybe .01% of lines. You've already proven to be terrible at math. Do you need me to explain averages to you?

>>10322781
I have been silently working on my own on something, and I guess I'm not fluent to speed through a translation like that, but I use a thesaurus in English to try and convey the actual meaning behind certain sentences. I spend more than just a minute trying to phrase it in a nice way in English and not just directly translating either though.

Well, that's one of the reasons why I work silently, that way I can't get discouraged by the truth that I'm just slow.

>>10322781
you have no idea what you're talking about

>>10322797
The vast majority of Japanese lines require significant rewriting and rephrasing to work in English. Simply parsing the meaning is not the same thing as having a translation. The WORK of translation is writing the new line. The pun was an extreme example.

If you ever translated something, you would understand this. (I fully expect you to pretend to be a translator at this point, please don't even bother)

>>10322804
You seem to not understand how long a minute is.

>>10322781
Are you that truly of an idiot?

>>10322811
It's not very long.

>>10322810
Of course I'm a translator. I'm fluent.

That's the difference between us.

>>10322811
I just checked how long it took to type this post, plus the captcha.

It took twenty-five seconds, and I knew exactly what I wanted to say, and only went back and rewrite a sentence once - sorry, twice now.

Nothing major to report with Kamikaze atm, but we'll probably post updates with Majikoi team from here on out.

>>10322778
she's taking break on that since she's already edited the girl route or whatsoever.

>>10322818
And I still made a mistake, what a riot.

>>10322822
You also wrote two lines.

Three if you count the run on sentence.

How's that math coming for you?

>>10322817
i'm pretty sure you're just another idiot peasant spectator who thinks ixrec writes beautiful prose, actually

>>10322830
Sorry, chum. Haven't read a single thing of his.

But you clearly have.

>>10322828
I'm writing for 4chan, I don't have to go back and check whether my posts actually read like decent prose. This particular one went out without any going back, but many others take more effort.

And then I waffled on it for thirty seconds anyway.

This argument is ridiculous.

>>10322830
Who are decent, active translators then?

>>10322838
>translators
>check whether actually reads like decent prose

Pull the other one. It's got bells.

>>10322835
Please, do record and post yourself translating a line every 30 seconds. I'd love to see the quality of your work.

With so many competent translators around, you'd think /jp/ would churn out more translations.

>>10322810
professionals can translate a line while the person is still speaking it and not sound akward or retarded. obviously things like puns or clever use of language is going to take longer to translate, but most vn lines are standard prose.

>>10322842
And if they're not checking, it means they're probably doing a shitty job, and everybody agreed that you could go faster if you cut corners.

>>10322846
You're talking about translating speeches and such. Written prose is completely different in about a thousand ways. Your average novel is maybe 200 kb of text and professional translators will spend 6 months on it.

So, Rewrite patch next week?

>>10322851
If you have to check every single line, then you're not fucking fluent.

A good translator looks at a line, understands it, and reproduces it. This is not a minute long process, and the majority of lines are small, common phrases, not convoluted complex things with puns and elaborate poetic prose. If you actually paid a shred of attention to writing, you'd know that.

>>10322845
Actually, is there a reason why there isn't a Hadena-equivalent of VN translations?

>>10322858
You simply can't "reproduce" the prose in English without it sounding utterly retarded. There are about a million things that just don't work. If you are a translator, your work must be absolutely hideous.

>>10322862
There are. It's Insem and/or all the Rance 'translators.'

Also, Hadena.

>>10322858
I check every line I write in my native language unless I'm doing something like chatting with someone in real-time.

By the way, you said you're fluent, but you mentally translate every line of Japanese to English in your head?

>>10322862
we have cudder

>>10322854
I'm pretty sure a united nations address is more complicated than quality vn lines like "big brother is such a pervert" and "I jam my meat pole into her quivering hole"

>>10322862
Translating something as long as a VN with useless garbage is too much work for the shits and giggles I guess.

>>10322872
People who translate for the United Nations have master's degrees in the language they're translating, and get paid to do it. I doubt most VN translators have anywhere near that level of qualification. In addition, speech translations don't need to read like oratory, they just have to be faithful representations of the original because working people don't give a shit about that.

>>10322872
Actually, united nations addresses are usually

a) prepared in advance with texts distributed
or
b) use a limited vocabulary of stiff polite, political language that is actually quite easy to translate

casual conversation can be much more tricky because you have to carry things like tone. translating a political speech, conveying the meaning is all that matters.

>>10322865
Your argument is both that the majority of VN text is complicated prose and that people can understand text without being able to communicate it like Japanese is some kind of mystical language.

Anything else you want to add to that?

>>10322882
understanding the meaning of a word doesn't mean you instantly know how to phrase it neatly in english, yes. the languages are too different.

you would know this if you'd ever actually translated anything.

>>10322890
You're cute.

Wrong for 99.99% of the words out there.

But cute.

>>10322496
Why were you sitting on the wall?

>>10322894
Please respond.

>>10322894
You're one of those people who "translate" using phrases like "Even if you say that..." aren't you?

No, seriously, show me scripts.

Guys gotta stop responding to trolls who don't do anything but sit on their ass and nitpick other people's work.

>>10322504
Sup Moogy.

>>10322930
Poor baby's all run out of arguments and has to make up random shit to fling. I like my anonymity, thanks all the same. Let's see some of your lines so I can laugh at how it took you half an hour to translate 15 lines.

>>10322958
Do you have my previous post hidden?

>>10322968
Do you have your frontal cortex hidden?

>>10322980
Please respond to the post I initially asked you to respond to, then.

>>10322987
>You're one of those people who "translate" using phrases like "Even if you say that..." aren't you?
No. I don't.

Because I'm fluent.

Does that please you, or do you need another 90 seconds to be able to fully understand it?

>>10322958
You have no arguments, only the ludicrous claim that 99.9% of japanese words have a directly applicable English translation. You have nothing supporting this obviously idiotic assertion. I don't think you've translated a line of Japanese in your life.

You're also a troll, though, so I'm going to stop playing.

>>10322999
Are you sure you don't have two of my posts filtered in this thread, or are you simply refusing to respond to them?

>>10323004
Thank god. This was getting pretty embarrassing for you. I was thinking that I'd have to post a blurb from Wikipedia and laugh as it took you half an hour to translate a paragraph.

>>10323005
No wait, you clearly don't, as you managed to reply to one of them, and then quote a different post.

>>10323036
>>10323005
Oh. Are we playing a guessing game?

Is it bigger than a breadbox?

>>10323050
I replied to one of your posts, and then requested that you respond to it as soon as I saw that you had responded to a post that had been made after that. You have so far been ignoring it. I am hoping you will eventually get around to replying to it.

I'm fluent in languages other than japanese, but I tend to think that you should spend at least a little time trying to capture the meaning of a japanese sentence into an equally poetic line in english, which can probably take some time. Maybe even a minute. This post took a minute or more but english is my primary language and I'm not trying especially hard to impress you people.

>>10323068
Nah. You want to be smug. Otherwise, you'd just point it out instead of playing this game.

You didn't answer me. Is it bigger than a breadbox?

>>10323072
It's also 3 sentences, one of which is abnormally large, so let's call it 4. Since it took you a minute, you wrote it five times faster than it'd take him.

Congratulations, you're the fastest writer ever.

>>10323084
I honestly thought you were playing dumb. I'm not sure you're still not playing dumb. Anyway, the post I wanted you respond to >>10322868, and after you responded to >>10322890, I assumed that you had either missed or deliberately ignored my post, which is why I requested that you respond to it in >>10322895, which you also ignored.

>>10323072
I think that guy is just bored and wants to get some shits and giggles out of his le epic trolling skillz and supposed grandiose fluency in the language, and just leaving anyone with a decency of logic to conclude that he is spewing bullshit after showing no tangible proof of his own claims. I just wish they'd stop shitting up the thread any more, we have enough as is with Cudder every time as well.

I personally keep a sticky by my workplace with the following note by Takami Kuwayama nearby to remind me every line:
"Translation is not simply a change of languages. Rather, it involves a creative process by which new possibilities of the existing ideas are explored through the laborious attempt to overcome the so-called ‘incommensurability’ between different languages. When successful, it is like transplanted plants growing in ways never imagined before."

>>10323094
You have a vastly over inflated opinion of VN writing. You should read one some time.

>Ayakashibito

>>10323093
Are you asking if I can parse Japanese into English in my head? Seriously? How do you think translation works?

>>10323099
Please respond to the post I made over an hour ago, >>10322868, to which you have yet to respond.

>>10323103
I am asking you whether or not you read Japanese by first translating it into English in your head. You seemed to imply as such when you stated: "Of course I'm a translator. I'm fluent."

>>10323099
I like to take everything I do seriously, no matter how low or high it is in the respect scale. It's my own way of work and you're free to dislike it if you like.

>>10323111
I guess? Your question doesn't make much sense.

>>10323113
That's cool. You should still read some VNs. They're not as serious as you are though, so you might be a little disappointed when you find out that they're full of trite, repetitive, and simplistic phrases.

>>10323129
You stated: "Of course I'm a translator. I'm fluent." This seems to imply that all people who are fluent in two languages are translators. I wanted to know whether or not this was something you believed.

More specifically, I wanted to know whether this was the case for you in particular, and whether or not this was how you read Japanese (actively translating it into English as you read.)

Rance 4 is 10% translated.

>>10323147
No. That I was fluent is the difference between myself and that person.

And I guess that's how I translate, but fuck if I know the actual mental mechanics. English is my primary language and that's what I think in, but it's like reading music. I don't actively think the actual letters or hand positions. Understanding is second nature if you actually know what you're doing.

>>10323194
>No. That I was fluent is the difference between myself and that person.
So why would it be obvious to us that you're a translator simply because you're fluent? I am fluent in two languages, but I very rarely find myself actually translating between the two.

>>10323129
Translate these lines for me. Should be quite easy.

>>10323200
Ooh, sorry. I don't have the 20 minutes your project would require.

Didn't see this when I glanced over.

https://dargothtranslations.wordpress.com/

Violated Hero 2


VH2 Progress

Progress counter: 71.8% (Jan 5, 2013)

Making good progress, but behind a bit already.

Released:
Hellhound 2/2
Succubus 2/2
Insecta 3/3
Xueli 9/9
Milfy 3/3
Amu 3/3
Paula 3/3
Total: 25/40

Current plans:

1. Patch for remaining forest girls: mid-Jan
2. Patch for remaining castle girls, bonus scene, and misc.: end of Jan.

>>10323216
Just admit that your so called "Japanese abilities" isn't worth jack shit.

>>10323194
I'm one of several people who told you that you're an idiot.

Take a look at the demo for Grisaia and decide for yourself if I know the language.

>search Umiyurikurage - Pandora
>Phrase not found

well someone will pick it up some day....

>>10322583
Well, I guess I'm putting off my plans to read Dengeki Stryker until the newer better version is released. Shit I just...bought...that one.

Maybe they'll do Shin Koihime Musou after that.

So how mutilated was the original tl of sumaga?

Don't remember anyone saying anything when gckc was tling it. Figured someone would just by checking the recent changes of the project and seeing what was up.

>>10323236
Who are you quoting?

>>10323223
He was only at like 60% at Christmas time.

>>10323235
Knowing the language doesn't mean jack shit technically. English is my first language but I've never passed a creative writing class in my life and that's why I wouldn't be able to make good translations if my life depended on it.

>>10323235
And have you spent a third of your time awake, every single day for the last 8 months translating?

>>10323277
I have a full time job. I'm just consistent.

I do put in a lot of time per script because I care about having sentences that read nicely.

>>10323256
should get even faster now I guess since it's mostly just battle text / less important monstergirls.

>>10323290
You didn't answer my question.

You're one of the faster translators. If you have a full time job, then you are certainly going far above his pace of 150 lines in 4 hours, and therefore, according to him, you must be doing a shitty job. Do you think that you're doing a shitty job?

>>10322930
Can you please explain to me what's wrong with that translation? Sure, it's a very literal, direct translation (probably of something like "そう言われても"), but in some cases it fits fairly well. Why would you spend more time coming up with something that sounds more literary, but distorts the meaning more? The only case I can see where that would make sense is if a character has a specific speaking style that you want to keep consistent.

>>10323298
50 lines/hour is about average for me, actually. But you're making a serious mistake in using this as a unit of measurement anyway. Writing density varies wildly depending on the game.

For example:

We'd now spent a solid week "shipwrecked." Naturally, no one was running around like chickens with their head cut off anymore―
Our lives had taken on the repetitive, colorless quality of a long-running television show that's decayed into a pale imitation of its former self. The kind you keep watching every week out of sheer inertia.
Although we were thoroughly sick of eating, or even looking at, the vile plant soup that had become our primary sustenance, its proportion of our diet was only rising; the amount of rice distributed to us was decreasing steadily with each passing day―
And even the edible grasses that had seemed so infinitely abundant at first were vanishing with alarming swiftness from the picked-over areas near the entrance to the forest.

This is 4 lines

Thanks for the updates /jp/ and VNTS.

>>10323321
Things like that are the exception and far from the rule, especially most dialogue.
The exact opposite is far more common in VNs than wall to wall text. For every chunk like that, there are easily two or three like:
…
……
………
ふう…。

>>10323348
No, that actually really depends on the game. Amane's route has a very long NVL sequence with tons of narration like that. And lots of Grisaia dialogue has multiple sentences in one "line."

Look at Oretsuba, 3.77 MB with 58396 lines, and Concerto Note, 2.03 MB with 85828 lines. (Grisaia's in the middle with 66715 / 3.73)

>>10323389
MB is often also an overcount too. If you've looked at scripts, you should know how shitty Japanese are at organizing things well. It's common for scenes shared between routes to exist in both sets of scripts instead of having a variable to direct the game flow correctly. Yu-No is a massive transgressor as far as that goes, with I believe nearly a quarter of the script being duplicated.
Many, such as all Alicesoft games, also have entire copies of every scene in the gallery so they can be called independent from the game itself.

MB is indeed probably a more accurate way than lines, but neither are very accurate for comparison between different games and engines.

>>10323405
The best solution here is to stop sperging out about speed metrics and Words Per Minute entirely

steady progress and quality translation are what should matter

>>10323425
Agreed there, but I still say that if you're taking 1-1.5 minutes on every single line, then you clearly either have a problem either understanding or writing. Either way, that's very much at odds with quality translation.

>>10323438
Either either either.
I'm clearly past my bed time.

>>10323446

perhaps you should have taken a moment to better consider how to record ur thoughts mate

>>10323466
Oh the ironing

You guys, just stop feeding the trolls already.

>>10322930
I actually don't mind reading translations like 'even if you say that', 'it can't be helped', and so on. If you read enough VNs and watch enough anime, it starts to feel natural enough to be almost indistinguishable from normal English.

Except for 'puppet with its strings cut'. Seriously people, STOP USING THAT, it sounds really awkward in English and makes me laugh every time it occurs in a serious scene.

>>10323644
And the other things don't sound awkward?

>>10323693
Not to me. 'It can't be helped' sounds like a decent equivalent of 'We [or anyone else] can't help it', and 'Even if you say that, ...' sounds like a decent equivalent of 'While I do agree what you're saying, ...'. 'Like a puppet with its strings cut', on the other hand, is an overly specific description with nothing in English coming even remotely close to it.

>>10323726
Just because you've internalized the meaning of the Japanese phrase doesn't make it any less shitty a translation. It's not that hard to come up with something like "Easy for you to say..." or whatever depending on context.

Puppet with its strings cut I don't get the issue. As long as it's well worded, it's a clear visual metaphor along the lines of "flopping like a fish out of water" or something.

>>10323790
Is there anything even wrong with "it can't be helped" as an English phrase?

>>10323809
Not really, it's just way overused in translation when it doesn't need to be. There are usually better alternatives.

>>10323809
Perfectly legitimate english phrase, although it has something of a "resigned, slightly formal adult" tone.

The issue with "it can't be helped" is that it's overused to translate very common Japanese phrases that aren't always used in that sense

>>10322862
Pretty much all VN translations are Hadena equivalent.

>>10323243
It was a long time ago, so my jap skills weren't really good yet, but I don't remember it being too bad.
Although I care more about precision in carrying the meaning of translations than how well it reads in english (as long as it looks like english).

>>10322862
>>10324071
Anyone called me?!

>>10323828
>>10323838
Give some alternative phrases.

>>10324185
Give some example lines.

>>10324185
Depends on context really.

That's too bad.
Shit sucks.
It's simply fate
So it goes

and so on.

>>10324202
>It's simply fate

who the fuck says that

>>10324229
ur mom, after i fucked her

>>10324202

I hope you're not a translator.

>>10324241

Why do you write like that?

>>10323726
>nothing in English coming even remotely close to it.
google it, it's a pretty common phrase even outside chinese powerpoints translations

>>10324202
Shit happens

>>10324201
Here's some context I just came across. What would you do with the last line?

>>10324202

One of my favorites is "them's the breaks."

>>10324201
Here's some context I just came across. What would you do with the last line?

>>10324282
"Yeah... well, it's heavy so that's not surprising."

>>10324202
>Shit sucks
Nigga, that's brillant. It can be nominated like some magna cum lauder level.

Hatsukoi - 100 lines added
KNNWSNY - waiting for more outsourced work to finish
(Name withheld) - 22.1976%

>>10324588
No one cares, go to you cave.

>>10324588
Thanks for the update, Cudder! お疲れ～

>>10324603
Don't be so mean to Cudder-tan.

>>10324619
>お疲れ～
Or as Cudder would say it "~ Tired"

Weekly reminder.

We need add Cudder and Aroduc on the list

>>10324669
Cudder: "google translate failed because of server error" *Try again*

>>10324669
Moogy could also be: *Translation difficulty rated as GODLIKE*
And this would work for Ixrec: ...Onii-chan...... What are you doing.........?

>>10324669
Why is Ixrec so shitty? Is that even english.

>>10324697

>Big brother, what are you doing?

Just needs editing.

>>10324669
I like the takajun one!

Cudder: one who was born of same mother earlier year, what is this one acting towards this moment

Google... why...

>>10324707
approved

>>10324669
Futsuu: Bro, what are you doing? (revision 1523; click here to show edit history)

>>10322432
>Your Diary- Prologue patch released
That was relatively quick. Took only one year for the translation to start.
That's Kantoku for you.

>>10322845
most of those "competent" translators are either entry level faggots or liars, both types do it for attention.

fuck, even those who actually know the language, and yet all they do is gloat about it on image boards without putting it to any use are just e-peening to increase their self esteem without putting any work into it.

>>10322882
translating things into shit like "it can't be helped" or "with this, it will be over" is not "good translation".

your posts imply that it's fine as long as it's 'understandable' even if it's completely broken and fucks the grammar up the ass with a spiked dildo.

>>10324847
Your post is pretty ironic.

>>10324669
Clearly the translation is: Why are you the demon now?

>>10324690
The sick ellipses in MLA aren't Ixrec's doing. Kouki's prose consists of 60% ellipses.

>>10324901
Rewrite and A Profile patches were pretty elliptical too, in my opinion those don't have place in English translations. Some adaptions should be made.

>>10324901
>[Takeru] ...........Su..........mi...........ka..............

>>10324906
If ellipses exist in the original, they should exist in the translation. Perhaps it looks retarded, but in that case it's because the original writer's writing looks retarded.

>>10322435
>>Sumaga- 81.91% complete, going through retranslation

>Rance quest still stalled

Oh how I wish that they JAST would manage to strike a deal with goodsmile to reprint the Sumaga nendos, and then remake the Sumaga special bundle.
If only JAST had some more weight to them so that they could actually realize such things.

At the very least Demonbane came with some additional stuff, as minor as they arguably might have been. But it was a nice gesture and I suppose it's a hint of how they would want better bundles. Perhaps someday.

>>10324954
>3DPD

Oh right, we are on /jp/.

>>10324834
I know, I was being heavily sarcastic with that post.

>>10324936
Protip:
Japanese punctuation is not used the same way as English.

>>10324970
Go back to /a/, faggot.

>>10324299
I always prefer translating "shouganai" as "(but) what can you do?"

>>10322464
Guys, Aaeru is doing this; it's a TRAP.

Ate the Moon is the same asshat who disappeared and left The Second Reproduction unfinished right before release, too. I wouldn't get my hopes up.

>>10322893
I NEED PICTURES, PARKER! PICTURES OF MOOGY!

>>10325412
youre an idiot

>>10325412
TSR was finished and only lacked Sheeta editing when the translator disappeared, correct me if I'm wrong

Seriously guys, this atethemoon character is Aaeru. Their writing styles are quite literally the same.

>>10325412
It seems unlikely Aaeru is doing anything right now even as a trap; she's disappeared since a month ago, and is still unreachable even to fuwanovel people. Her blog was taken down by Wordpress a while ago and still, not a single word from Aaeru.

>>10325639
you are literally retarded

I sure do hope imouto paradise is one of the ones being translated. I don't think my penis could stand the disappointment if it isn't.

You guys, what if

what if

Aaeru was never lying about being terminally ill, and she actually did die a month ago?

>>10325702
It can't be helped

>>10325412
Ate the Moon is also the same asshat that released Katahane which was great.

>Afaik, the machine translated one is the only patch that's ever been attempted, much less released...The drama mostly resulted from the many 4chan threads made by Cudder (who I think was the person in charge of retrans, which was used to make the patch), in which she not only posted updates on the patch (which is totally reasonable), but fervently defended the quality of the patch against all the blatantly valid accusations of it being total shit. I even saw one guy post a JP 4koma for her to translate to prove she understood the language, and she promptly embarrassed herself by getting the joke completely wrong.

>In retrospect, many of us think the whole affair was a hugely successful attempt at trolling/attention whoring.

>For the record, my favorite mis-tl pointed out in those threads has got to be よっと -> "yacht".

Ixrec

>>10325702
I'd feel bad since I always imagined Aaeru as the loli Aaeru avatarfagged as.

>>10325717
The only thing that is wrong about this quote is Ixrec mixing up Cudder's gender. ``She'', haha, nice joke.

>>10325739
Women are know for incompetence, so I think Ixrec's spot on with the "she".

>>10325739
I think Cudder is a non-native English speaker. It would explain why he keeps getting pronouns confused, particularly referring to himself a female and to his one-man company as we/us/they.
It would also explain why he settled for such terrible translations.

>>10325717
>For the record, my favorite mis-tl pointed out in those threads has got to be よっと -> "yacht".
http://archive.foolz.us/jp/thread/6409737/#6424544

Those were good times.

Touhou Kenchinroku, 1300 / 4709 (approx) translated.

Project needs an image editor. Someone that actually knows NScript and/or LUA would help.

>>10322427
What game is the ops? whats it about?

>>10325848
See the file name, the OP picture for weekly translation threads always have the name there.

>>10325857
Oh cool and its 61% already. Its not yoai or anything like that right? Is it real deal? how fast is this group? will they be done soon?

>>10325847
That's pretty swell. I would indeed read the Touhou VNs were they to be translated.

>>10325882
Why the fuck don't you check it yourself?

>>10325847
can you romance yukari
and fuck her?

>>10325890
because you cant learn all info of that without someone who read it.

>>10325894
It's not quite a romance game, but yes. In the first game you get to fuck Yukari, Ran, Chen, and Aya.

Yukari appears in the second game as well, and has an absolutely delicious pair of dress up scenes. Pic related.

>>10325882
no. no . very slow. no

>>10325940
Does she have a route? or is it not like that?

>>10325978
Not like that. It's linear with a plot. There are choices, but only one end; not even bad ends or anything. Most choices just have a minor effect on some dialogue or scenes.

So what vns might come out soon? Ixrec said futtsu is translating BS but just hasn't updated.

>>10326206
Get a life

>>10326219
>get a life
>/jp/
get out.

>>10326225
you do it

>>10326206
Rewrite and Himegari.

>>10326206
see these >>10322427
>>10322429
>>10322432
>>10322435

>>10326441
>Himegari
Is that really aroduc project for sure? when will it come out, this week? Any good torrent with all the updates/add on content for it?

>>10326657
Fuck off.

>>10326657
Seriously, this chain-question autist never learns to shut up.

She won't fucking leave me alone, how do I get onto Sora's route, I've only made 3 choices so far.

10/10 translation

This is painful

>>10327292
What are you talking about? That translation seems just fine. Maybe you just have too high standards.

>>10327292
oh lawd

>>10327292
Wait... is this Kirby's translation?
Fuck, and now he is working on Sumaga for JAST. The future is grim.

>>10327672
>Wait... is this Kirby's translation?
What in God's name gave you that idea? Kirby is working on Baldr Sky, not Yosuga no Sora.

Which Yosuga no Sora translation is that? I lost count.

Wasn't it being re-translated at one point because one translator did such a shitty job it couldn't be used? Or am I thinking of something else.

This whole project is such a clusterfuck.

Incest fags can't get anything done right.

>>10327729
Don't be ridiculous. Kirby's translating Himegari.

>>10327842
What? No, why the fuck would he be translating Himegari? It's Schatten he's translating.

>>10325746
Shut up before you become "known for incompetence."

>>10327764
>Incest fags can't get anything done right.

>>10325651
But she's still posting on the forums

>>10328533
Kamikaze Explorer! got an English Patch?

>>10328533
She's not even the main girl though. And far from the best girl.

>>10325838
>よっと
Isn't it yatch?

>>10328601
There's a dude working on it, evidently.

>>10328601
>>10328645
We're sorta tagging along with the folks working on Majikoi. Check their blog.

>>10325717
>>For the record, my favorite mis-tl pointed out in those threads has got to be よっと -> "yacht".

Isn't that correct though? Is Ixrec trolling here?

>>10328616
>>10328711
You guys are killing me.

>>10328711
...
In the right context, it could.
Here, it's probably an exclamation like what you'd usually say when lifting something heavy (althouogh with zero context...).

>>10328733
There's context in the earlier linked thread in the archive.
And if they really meant yacht, it would at least be written in katakana

>>10328616
Maybe if it was written in katakana.

Any guesses on what translation project is going to get released next?

>>10329113

Well, Hadaka Shitsuji's at like 97% in edit, but the editor just got hit with some school issues. Still, it seems like the furthest along progress-wise of anything right now.

DMMd apparently has a giant team working on it though, maybe that'll beat it, who knows.

>>10329113
I'm betting on Yandere.

>>10325651
she was raped and beaten to death

>>10327292
Leaving lines completely untranslated and not using punctuation?

Not even FH was that bad.

>>10328554
>Last Active: Dec 09 2012 05:26 AM

>>10327672
>>10327729
>>10327842
>>10327898
For anyone wondering, Kirby is the translator for SubaHibi.

>>10325838
>Cudder is molesting the script
Hahaha, oh god.

>>10329819
>For anyone wondering, Kirby is the translator for SubaHibi.

And Sumaga. And something else he hasn't revealed the title of.

>>10329774
and pooder count this as improvement

>JAST
>green
My heart can't take this kind of surprise!

So, it's Monday, and we're already out of shit to talk about?

>>10333341
How about ~ 2013 predictions ~

Which projects will be finished?
Which will flame out?
What is the aroduc's dark secret?

>>10333400

1. Rewrite, Subahibi, Grisaia. Three big projects will come to an end this year.

2. I bet for dote up a cat.

3. Ikusa Megami, I hope

>>10333400
1. Flyable Hearts, Baldr Sky, Starless.
2. Air...again.
3. He likes to wear women's underwear?

>>10333400
>Which projects will be finished?
Sumaga

>>10333400
>Which projects will be finished?
- Comyu, end of the year (Ixrec did Rewrite in less than a year and it was longer)
- Danganronpa, first quarter 2013
- Fortune Arterial, end of the year
- Grisaia no Kajitsu, summer or shortly after
- Higanbana 2, fall
- Irotoridori no Sekai, first quarter 2013
- Killer Queen, since it's very short
- Little Busters EX, hopefully end of the year
- Majikoi S, and maybe Majikoi if the guys at Wairu are willing to pick up where TakaJun stalled it (we'll probably never see a 100% tled Majikoi otherwise)
- Mahoutsukai no Yoru, end of the wor... year
- Rance 4
- Rewrite, this month or early february at the latest (GODSPEED IXREC)
- Rose Guns Days‬ - Season 1, first quarter
- Shinigami no Kiss wa Wakare no Aji, first quarter
- SubaHibi, end of the year (that, or Kirby drops it like he dropped out of school. 50/50 chance)
- SonaHana 9, first quarter
- White Album 2 Introductory Chapter, late summer (I doubt it'll be a "translation", though)
- Yandere, first quarter
- Yoakemae Yori Ruriiro Na, because I believe in miracles
- Yosuga no Sora, end of the year

I deliberately omitted games like Amaenbo or Hadaka Shitsuji because, well, let's say a very limited number of people care about those.

>Which will flame out?
- Baldr Sky (easiest one to predict - no further comment)
- Cartagra (KnS didn't sell > IG doesn't care about MG > translation lost forever)
- Kud Wafter (not like anyone will miss it... and the translator knows that)
- Majikoi, if WT doesn't pick it up
- Rance 6
- Rance Quest
- Welcome to Pia Carrot 2

>What is the aroduc's dark secret?
- Himegari. No solid guess about his second project though.

>>10333724
>SubaHibi, end of the year (that, or Kirby drops it like he dropped out of school. 50/50 chance)
I think he'll finish it, but when he'll finish it will depend on if he tries to stick his fingers in any more pies between now and then.

>No solid guess about his second project though.
I thought we already established that it was Soukoku no Arterial ("was" being the operative keyword there).

Your list seems pretty reasonable, though. I will add:
>Which will flame out?
- Aiyoku no Eustia. Well, they'll probably claim they're still working on it, but I kind of doubt it will ever be released.
- Da Capo 3. Aaeru seems to be dead again. Not that she or her "translation" will be missed.
- There are several projects up there that are effectively dead already (when was the last time KoiTate was updated?).

I also don't think IroSeka will be done in Q1. Q2 if we're lucky.

>>10333724
Where is dra koi? hes doiong that before Comyu and it wont take him till the end of the year for that, it will be out in like a couple of moths easy. dra koi is only 0.13 mb and Comyu is a lot shorter. ixerc will be back with his godly speed again.

Should rewrite final patch be out this week?

>>10333818
Use your brain, retard.

>>10333840
Huh? it should be done already, its almost fully translated or is by now and edited.

>>10333851
You are so retarded that you cannot even read the OP, huh?

>>10333802
>I thought we already established that it was Soukoku no Arterial ("was" being the operative keyword there).
Last thing I heard was that his computer couldn't even run it. I'm not up-to-date on that.

>There are several projects up there that are effectively dead already (when was the last time KoiTate was updated?).
Actually, I've been following the KoiTate project since the first patch, and I'm pretty sure they will complete it someday. It's very, very slow, and given their English skills they're in dire need of a competent editor, but I don't think they will drop it. They seem fairly enthusiastic about their site, and periodically post translations for other stuff. They just take it easy I guess.

>>10333771
You're right. I thought he was doing Comyu first for some reason.

>>10333400
My prediction: there will be no angels in December 2013.

>>10333724
>- Majikoi, if WT doesn't pick it up
Isn't Taka-Jun translating it?

>>10334939

Nothing comes from him for a while. Doubt that he dropped it because he is so busy with his real life

>>10335110
To drop a project like that and without admitting it doesn't seem like Taka-Jun.

I mean, no matter if it's stalled or not, I wouldn't doubt Taka-Jun sticking with the project until it's done. At the very least up until he claims otherwise.
I get the feeling that he is a persistent fella. If occasionally stalling things is how he keeps said persistence alive, then so be it. At least it ends with the huge projects done.

I always assumed Majikoi being stalled was a deliberate action to piss off Miyako's fans

>>10335416
It's more like the route is made of drama so I can see Takajun not really being enthusiastic about having to grind it. Sort of like how Wanko was put second last, except worse.

>>10333724
You forgot about Rance 5D, that's nearly 100% translated, they're just waiting on a hacker.

>>10333946
My prediction: Water is wet.

Just realized there's a full spanish translations of Summer Days on youtube, so long suckers

>>10337674
What would even be the point of that game without h-scenes? Even with the h-scenes, it's quite bad.

>>10337846
Those are also translated, but they're edited out on the youtube version

>>10322435
Renko went missing apparently. As such, I wouldn't be optimistic about Seinarukana being released by the end of the year since there's no translator on board.

>>10322435
Renkosuke went missing apparently. Until the project find a new translator, I can't imagine Seinarukana's translation being finished by the end of the year.

>>10338932
That was last updated in August, 2012. You're posting in 2013.

Numbers are pretty hard.

>>10338932
He was killed by yakuza

Rewrite at over 50%, at 5% a day~