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Scarlet Devil Mansion crew. I don't care if that makes me seem like a secondary or whatever.

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>>10316274
This, then Moriya.

Eientei

>>10316277
>I don't care if that makes me seem like a secondary or whatever.

Don't worry, anyone who has a tendency towards a particular "group" in the touhou universe makes them secondary by default.

SDM or Hakufjelakfnsdlnclknrou or Myouren Temple or Palace of the Earth Spirits.
But mostly SDM and Palace of the Earth Spirits.

Taoism

Yakumo family love.

It would have to be Eientei for me.

i love them

The Bunbunmaru krew.

>>10316277
The only groups that naming would actually indicate you a secondary are non-groups like bakatet or the EX daughters.

I can't imagine why you would care about being accused of being a secondary unless you were one, though.

Yakumo household and the Bunbunmaru team. I'd like Eientei a lot if those two mooncunts weren't there and it was just the rabbits.

SDM, I guess, though I don't care about Flandre or Sakuya much.

>>10316323
Reisen fled the moon so she's okay.

Mokou x Keine ha kami no kuuni.

>>10316320

You mean Eirin and Kaguya or does Reisen count too?

>>10316320
Are the Lunarians really that bad?

They don't seem all that bad to me, they aren't that bitchy.

Then again, Eirin's my favourite right beside Udonge, so perhaps I'm biased.

Hakugyoukuro, Koumakan, and Chireiden. Actually, all of them except for Myourenji.

>>10316327
>though I don't care about Flandre or Sakuya much.

Taoists.

I like one Touhou from one of pretty much all groups.

八雲家

I like one Touhou from pretty much every group.

SDM and Eientei are probably my top 2, though the Myouren crew are right up there as well. But I also like the whole SA cast as well. I'm terrible at picking favorites.

>>10316333

To be fair there is that whole "constant and regularly abusing Reisen" thing Eirin has going on.

>>10316327

It's just annoying that half the SDM is overexposed more than almost everyone in the series other than Reimu, Marisa, and a choice few others, while the other half of the group might as well not even exist.

Tengu.

I want to see the leader of such a powerful faction in Gensokyo as a character already.

>>10316366
>the other half of the group might as well not even exist.
I'm pretty sure everyone in the SDM household gets the same attention.

>>10316366
If you count Inaba, Reisen is pretty much abused by everyone minus Kaguya. Kaguya's pretty damn nice.

At least Eirin sometimes lets her know that she's needed, Tewi pretty much uses Reisen as a bunny-earred punching bag.

>>10316384
It's about time the tengu cause an incident. They're youkai after all.

>>10316393
Nothing wrong with hazing. And Kaguya might act nice, but she already said she'd kill Reisen if she crossed them.

>>10316413
Where was that referenced?

I never read it in SSiB or CiLR, yet I hear that thing referenced several times.

Got a link to it?

>>10316387

Pardon me but, nigga u srs?

Flandre's been MIA since her BAJR article, and Koa's never been anything but background cameos since her appearance in EoSD. Only Meiling's gotten any significant attention of the 3, but that's still doesn't even begin to compare to Remilia, Sakuya, or Patchouli.

>>10316413

There's hazing and there's "punishing" to the point of leaving a person unconscious and bedridden for multiple days. At least, I'm hoping I remember that from Inaba and not some random manga I read at some point, it was a long time ago.

Youkai Mountain is best mountain.

>>10316309
>non-groups like bakatet

You are not going to hate them away, primary-kun. Too late for that.

>>10316427
>I'm hoping I remember that from Inaba

While we probably won't determine where you remember that from, a part amounting to exactly that is indeed present in Inaba.

Hakugyokurou for me.

Youmu and Yuyuko da best.

Yakumo family and Eientei.

Chireiden. I love how family oriented their pictures are, and I just love all four of them, especially Okuu.

>>10316516

I was hoping that it was actually from Inaba. Nice to know I'm not crazy.

People don't seem to understand it takes a lot of shit to knock a person out and KEEP them out for multiple days. Lord only knows what the hell Eirin did to her.

One great big Makai family.

Chireiden carries a close second.

>>10316366
>while the other half of the group might as well not even exist.
This is called "being coherent in your writing".

Shit tier writers write something like "Naruto is a hated person in his village" and then ignore it forever, right from the start.

Decent writers write something like "Flandre lives in the basement most of the time" and then REMEMBER IT. Likewise, Meiling's duty requires her to be at one place all the time.

The only oddity would be Patchouli, but then we learn that her official duty is "to solve and cause problems in the SDM". Which then explains why sometimes she stops doing what she likes to do and leaves to interact with people.

Koakuma was a non-character that fandom literally wished into official existance. It doesn't means ZUN has to actively think about her. She'll forever exist as decoration around the library, as needed.

So, get this at once:
1) Remilia: Is a social being, that likes to go on adventures and throw parties.
2) Sakuya: Is Remilia's right hand (wo)man, that additionally has lots of errands to run. NO WONDER SHE KEEPS APPEARING.
3) Patchouli: Would rather remain inside, but has to work as a troubleshooter from time to time. NO WONDER SHE KEEPS APPEARING.
4) Flandre: Always in the basement. All the time.
5) Meiling: Keeping watch by the gate.
6) Koa: who?

1, 2 and 3 appear constantly. 4 and 5 doesn't. And be glad that 6 even exists on some backgrounds.

>>10316646

>>10316646

You misunderstand. While the difference in number of appearance bothers me, I am quite aware of WHY there is such a difference in the first place.

Of course I would like it if Flandre/Meiling/Koa were to pop up more, but it's not like I'm stamping my feet and having a temper tantrum because ZUN isn't shoehorning them into more things.

No need to be a cunt about it.

>>10316646
F-Flan leaves the basement! S-Sometimes!

Whatever group Nazrin is in.

>>10316695
Eh see, Tima is an excellent feel-good artist, but her works are on the very fanon side of the fandom. It's cute and heartwarming to pretend that there's something resembling functional family dynamics in the SDM. I can appreciate those feel-good stories just as any other fan (picture related) at the same time that I'm glad that Flandre's personality and dangerous nature is not being diluted by ZUN's catering to the moe-bandwagon.

This is not an incoherent position. I love the characters Flandre and Remilia. I like seeing them like happy sisters in fanworks, and I like never seeing one of them in the official works.

But enough talk, have some Bat-Flan.

>>10316815

I simply mean I would prefer the characters were used more in canon material, though still in the same capacity that they existed before.

Flan just kinda being somewhere with the rest of the group and everyone being A-OK with it would just be plain odd, I can agree on that. But she does get out of her room on occasion and sneak around the Mansion sometimes.

All of them!

I couldn't possibly limit my favorite to a single social circle! They all have their own interesting features that make them neat, heart warming, or cool

I realize this makes me sound boring to some people. It's like being asked what music you like and answering "everything." But character limits are bitches! So, if you're interested in me extolling the virtues of one circle or another, tell me which circle you'd like me to shower praise upon and I shall do so!

>>10316907
Yakumo family: go!

>>10316268
Double Oni. Don't know if they count as a group but I like them.

>>10316815
>Red Bull with Keine on the can
I like it.

>>10316919

Oh man!

Yukari is so cool! I mean, purely aesthetically speaking, she's already got so much going for her! Her gap powers are distinct and interesting. You can do so much with just that alone! Do they lead to some eldritch realm? Is she some kind of horror from beyond the veil? Or if you're sticking to comedic styled themes, she's just a crazy-old youkai that likes dicking around all day. Her past, her powers, her entire being is ripe with the potential for stories and intrigue!

Ran is an oft-overlooked character whose intrigue mostly comes from her relationship with Yukari; what brought these two together? A lot of really interesting doujins go into that. Of course, she's also a rather heartwarming character. Fanon or not, seeing her dote on her little youkai underling is adorable!

Chen, of course, needs no introduction! Those strangely humorous comics written by that artist whose name I can't FUCKING REMEMBER GODDAMNIT have all but guaranteed her place in the spotlight! Mostly she's just used for light hearted antics, but she's got a serious side to her, too! Although I haven't read any doujins depicting such lately, so, that's unfortunate

Of course, the Yakumo family as a whole proves to be amazing in tons of different ways. Heartwarming, terrifying, calculating, they can be used in tons of ways!

My personal favorite depiction of them is when they're being cute. Ran doting on Chen, Yukari lazily screwing around, and more make this family really memorable

>>10316958
I (>>10316815) also enjoy characters being cute in fan-works.

As for your choice, Chen is canon cute.

Chireiden, then Eintei. SDM used to be mine for the longest time, but I realised that I like the crew as individual characters, not as a group.

>>10316330
But so did Kaguya and Eirin.

>>10316815
I wish I could read moonrunes. What are thay saying?

>>10316958
Thanks for the answer!

>Yukari is so cool! I mean, purely aesthetically speaking
I love her clothes, they make her look like a noble woman.

>A lot of really interesting doujins go into that.
I have read only Ran vs Yukari, can you point me some other interesting title?

>My personal favorite depiction of them is when they're being cute.
I prefer the terrifying and "composed" version, pic related, one of my favorite.
She really looks like a goddess! The only other character that match her, when depicted in this way, is Kanako IMHO.

>>10316992
Forgot pic =___=

The mommy touhous.

>>10316646
Officially, (read: in Bohemian Archive in Japanese Red,) it's stated that Flan CAN indeed leave the basement. She just won't leave the house because Remilia asked her not to. Whether Flan is just a good girl (w) or Remilia is using her power over destiny is up to speculation (latter, probably), but Flan can and does leave the basement, just not the house.

Ever since I began reading At Chirei, I started to love their family so much. It seriously has to be one of the best Touhou comics I ever read.

>>10316992
>I have read only Ran vs Yukari, can you point me some other interesting title?

To be completely honest, that's the only one I know of offhand. The others I've since lost because my external hard drive lost all its data, taking all my saved doujins with it

>>10316994
>pic

Are you sure that's what you meant by terrifying and "composed"?

>=___=

I understand that we are just being fans gushing about what we love, but let's try to remain civilized here

>>10317005

God yes. At Chirei is amazing. I absolutely loved that depiction of how Kanako gave Utsuho her powers

>>10316986

>SDM used to be mine for the longest time, but I realised that I like the crew as individual characters, not as a group.

That's unfortunately most likely because the SDM quite frankly has no group dynamic to it at all (besides Remilia and Sakuya, but 2 people does not a group make).

Like >>10316815 kindof makes note of, they lack the whole "family"-ness that most of the other groups have. They're just never around each other enough to have any sort of significant interaction material.

>>10317027
>besides Remilia and Sakuya
I'll give you Flandre and Meiling, but Patchouli?

The fuck you're talking about.

>>10316998
Thank you for not saying "canonically"

>>10317027

>>10316958 here. I disagree quite heartily!

Sakuya and Meiling, Remilia and Flandre, Patchouli and Koakuma, and all the interactions in between!

The first thing that comes to mind is Remilia and Flandre, for which I love this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMPQWjb0rZo&list=FLiVt9raRaQh0EunLkooel8w

It's one of my favorites depictions of the interesting facets of the SDM crew! Even though the focus is on Remilia and Flandre, a lot of interesting relationships are hinting on, such as Sakuya and Meiling coming into Remilia's service

>>10317060
What's the difference?

>>10317076
Anon-kun, Anon-kun, can you do Chireiden next?

Not really a group, but ...

>>10317076
^_____^

>>10317099

Not him, but I am guessing that it's because, to him, canonically implies a stronger importance, a harsher grip on the facts of the matter. Officially just means.. well, what's brought to the public eye

>>10317106

God yes! It'll have to be a separate post though, because character limits are a bitch

>>10317039

Patchouli certainly has a bit more material yeah. My mistake not bringing her up in my post. The point still mostly stands though I think.

>>10317076

I enjoy your enthusiasm but there's really very little actual solid canon material for most of what you're describing.

Unless we're diving into fanon material in which case we'll be here all night.

>>10317027
There's also a nice friendship thing going between Remilia and Patchouli, but no official arrows between anybody else. Sakuya is professionaly servile to Patchouli and Patchouli regards Sakuya as an annoyance. Meiling seems to just work there.

BAiJR shows that Remilia and Flandre have a relationship pretty much as normal siblings, which is surprisingly good given the circunstances, but then Flandre just remains unseen most of the time.

>>10317106

So! The intrigue that is Chireiden!

Satori and Koishi are by themselves totally awesome yet tragic characters. Being forced into seclusion, being what amounts to lonely crazy cat people, all that stuff makes them rife with the potential for depressing chords to be played on one's heartstrings

Their powers are really neat! I love Koishi's in particular. While Satori has her more familiar mindreading, Koishi's ability to delve into and manipulate the subconscious is really interesting. I will have to make a separate post depicting what I felt was the most fascinating usage of her powers I've yet read

The awesome that is Utsuho could fill a good few articles! Visually, there's just no one like her, and nuclear warning signs with their accompanying sirens blaring never fail to bring her to mind. That's the mark of absolute success as far as aesthetics go! And her BACKSTORY! Going mad with divine power bestowed upon her by a scheming goddess? It's a gold mine for any /tg/er to dig into

Orin, to me, has always felt most interesting when she's portrayed as a helpless bystander. Watching her friend go bonkers right in front of her in SA, sensing the sadness of her people (I refuse to say masters!) and resolving to try to help that in her own little way in At Chirei, and so forth

Fuck, this is going to be two posts long

>>10317184
There's one of those pictures for Eientei as well.

Includes Reisen II and the Moon honies though.

HIna

>>10317184

The family as a whole is just beautiful. Maybe it's easy to empathize with because I'm something of an animal person myself, but animals really are just simple people, and it warms my heart to see Utsuho and Orin depicted as such. This is especially why At Chirei is so great; I like that Utsuho and Orin spend most of their time in their animal forms. It really draws attention to the unique situation of their household; they're just a couple of critters, and the Komeji sisters are just a pair of mindreading youkai. But through circumstance and their abilities, they really are just like a little family

Yuugi, Parsee, Yamame, and Kisume really deserve more mention than I'm giving them here, but these posts are getting too long as it is. I will try to be concise: Yuugi's awesome, Parsee's interesting, Yamame's creepy, Kisume's adorable

Also, the piece of writing I was referring to when I spoke of Koishi's ability

>>10317153

I'll have to play EoSD, IaMP, and UNL sometime to refresh my memories on their relationships. In any event, I find them interesting as a group, so I suppose we'll leave it at that

Hina

Myouren Shrine. Ran is my favorite touhou though.

Three fairies. Or Taoists. Or Eientei, or the tengu trio, fuck I can't decide.

>>10317223

An example of what I meant is Meiling and Remilia. There are only 3 canon interactions between them.

The first is only referenced in Meiling's BAJR article, where Remilia orders Meiling to fix the flowers that had changed white in the gardens knowing full well Meiling wouldn't be able to do it (just to tease her some, not really to be mean about it).

The second is Meiling's PMiSS article. It references to how Remilia enjoys watching Meiling dueling people out by the gate.

The last are their victory quotes between one another in the fighting games.

>>10317005
oh neat. I didn't realize there was a second "At Chirei" release. Pity the circle didn't do more; this is some seriously heartwarming shit.

>>10317010
>Are you sure that's what you meant by terrifying and "composed"?

Typo sorry,
>I prefer the terrifying and "composed" version*s*, pic related, one of my favorite.
It was an example of the "composed" version... I need to go to bed.

I like the tengus

>>10316968
You know, big sis Meiling/lil sis Flandre is something I don't see enough of.

>>10317223
I've just read that Koishi mind rape story. Where can I find the beginning of it and continuation (if there is any)? I tried to google few random sentences but with no result. Either those posts are already gone (well, they are dated 09/2011) or that hipster imageboard is not indexed by google.
And I really wonder why author didn't post the copy on fanfiction.net or any other similar site. He spent hours to think up the and write the story and now all his work is lost.

>>10317473
I'd like to see more of that too, and maybe big sis Marisa.

>>10317473

Son I could go full-on Orbital Bombardment on this thread with material along those lines, but this isn't the place to be doing it.

Needless to say, there's plenty of art for it, just gotta look for it.

>>10317473
Here's the pixiv search for them: http://www.pixiv.net/search.php?s_mode=s_tag_full&word=%E3%83%A1%E3%82%A4%E3%83%95%E3%83%A9

>>10317563
touhou-project.com/underground/res/113.html

Review guy, do Youkai Mountain! Tengu and Moriya and stuff!

>>10317595
You're a peach, thanks.

>>10317563

I just want to take a moment to warn you that the rest of the story is awful. Like, seriously, complete trashcan. It is basically Protagonist Wish Fulfillment: The Story. I looked it up and read it myself some time ago, and was disappointed to find those archived posts are basically the diamonds in the rough

Like, those posts? I just couldn't help but be intrigued because the author genuinely brought life to an otherwise abstract ability: the power to manipulate one's subconscious. The protagonist's mind is literally being unraveled by her. It's just marvelous to read, and frightening to think about how someone could be reduced to something so.. base

But yeah, the rest of that quest thread? Absolute trash in my opinion

>>10317756

Okay!

The Tengus!

First of all, it needs to be said: I love Aya. She's so cool and snappy looking and slick and goddamn! As a guy who already likes wind and speed themed powers, she's just a dream come true. I loved her in UNL. Swift as a gale and smug as a boss! Her crouch animation captures her personality so well that it stands out to me more than anything. Story-wise, there's not as much to say. She's a reporter who reports things. It's great that it gives her an excuse to get involved with things, though

Hatate! It doesn't even seem that long ago that she seemed to be Aya 2.0. I think she's a fun character. Her contrast with Aya, Newspaper vs Blogosphere style makes her strangely unique despite being for all intents and purposes a different spin on the same archetype. Sadly, I haven't played Double Spoiler yet, so commenting further on her personality is hard without resorting to fanon. But whatever, she's very bakkoi

Momiji! I regret to say that I have not read many doujins with her as a central character, so it is hard to see her as much more than Aya's dutiful helper. That said, I like her weapons of choice. 10/10, would venture into a foreboding dungeon to battle a Lich with

Nitori! It's amazing how injecting a fantasy setting with a little TECHNOLOGY can make a fun contrast with magic. I love her when she really gets to go all out with her SCIENCE, but that slightly goes against her archetype; she's just a tinker, not a mad scientist

TWO POSTS FUCK

>>10317926

Also, unfortunately I don't have one of those cool group pose pictures for the youkai mountain folks, so I sadly had to break my stride there

Hina! Goddamnit, I don't care how fanon it is; Miracle Hinacle was amazing. Hina is absolutely heartwarming and cute and a bit of a martyr. I should read more of the official material with her in it, though..

The Moriyas!

Sanae is awesome. It's interesting reading different takes on her backstory that usually involve her just being a normal girl and then GODDESSES and now she's their priestess and she's in Gensokyo oh god what is going on. It's an interesting contrast with Marisa; whereas she's what amounts to a badass normal, Sanae *was* normal but now she's a living goddess or something. Anyway, it's a neat backstory to play around with. As for present-day Sanae, just remember that she is a good girl that likes giant robots and there's nothing wrong with that so shut up

Kanako! Goddamnit, now I am frustrated because I want to name some awesomely wonderful doujin I read about that had a serious take on how Kanako came to know Suwako but I can't remember the name of it so goddamnit. Anyway, I love how she's basically a businesswoman who is turning religion into a corporation. Aesthetically, I love how dominant and strong she seems. Her onbashira really are what defines her, visually, and it's surprising how much it lends to the character

83 CHARACTERS LEFT FOR SUWAKO, FUCK. UM, SHE IS CUTE, AND SHE WAS COOL IN UNL. FIN~

Chireiden is just too cute for words.

>>10317926
>>10317964
Good man, good show! A true friend of the mountain!