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Ichirin might just be the Alice of this game, I swear. Her hitboxes are so awkward

Is it just me or does Reimu seem to have somewhat low damage, at least compared to the other two?

this game seems way too simple and boring. i feel like i'm missing something.

marisa is the most fun and also overpowered

>>10290622
From what little I have explored her moves, her specials seem to have quick startup and recovery. Since she has options across the entire screen I imagine that she might end up controlling the flow of matches. If her moves covered any more area she would easily be overpowered. It's a bit hard to tell from a trial, though.

>>10290733
Reading your opinion on fighting games is always good for a laugh.

The only thing I can tell without doubt so far is that Marisa is a big freaking counter against Ichirin. Since Ichirin has to be always either very fucking close for melee or at that specific range that fits Unzan between her and the enemy for specials, and Marisa can just use her broom that covers both distances easily to smash it into her face at any range she might try to put herself to attack at any time... plus her melee starts faster than ANYTHING Ichirin has, including her own basic melee.

>>10290743
Thanks, I'm glad it's helping you out! If you're having a hard time understanding the things we're talking about you just have to ask, I don't mind explaining.

For example, her iron fist series is extremely quick and can cover any part of the screen she wants from top to bottom. If there weren't gaps it would be silly. Running cloud again is quick, covers a lot of the screen and she recovers while it is still active. 4Y/8Y/2Y are slow and from what I can see useless in neutral, but again she recovers while they're active so they have potential for okizeme setups.

If there's anything else that you find confusing you'll have to be specific.

>>10290852
What fighting games do you play, I want to crush you at them.

>>10290862
I sense much anger in you.

>>10290862
Melty Blood is my game of choice. If you're in the US I don't mind playing a few matches but I don't think this thread is the place to talk about it. You can host in the RIP Melty thread or bring it to the archive.

So what the hell are we going to call this? Shinki? /hm/?

Why Ichirin?????
Why that muslim-looking Touhou?

>>10291049
that picture is hideous please delete it

>>10291054

>>10291049
Muslims can't love girls!
MUSLIMS CAN'T LOVE GIRLS!

Something about Ichirin's outer robe seems so familiar. At first I thought it was something that Gouken from Street Fighter IV wears. Then I tried to see if Sokaku from Fatal Fury 3 wears it. Wrong on both counts.

is it just me or their arms seem...... short?

>>10291049
Because There is no God but ZUN and Junya Ohta is ZUN's messenger.

>>10291221
Possibly because we're subconsciously comparing them to those long, delicious legs.

I'm glad Ichirin is a PC. maybe then she will have more fans.

Woah, I'm back.

Is this out? Demo or full version? Link?

>>10291236
You'd think she'd be more popular amongst the hitbox crowd. That's practically all she was known for until now.

I always liked Ichirin. Never actually thought she'd get any attention though. She's always been in my dream rosters.

>>10291238
http://www.mediafire.com/?b7e2gc19y5ytg97

Wow, why did she get chosen?

Islam really is spreading.

>>10291262
It's kinda weird... Islam is older than Christianity. But then again they got Jesus as their prophet... So. We are all fucked.

>>10291262
Because they wanted to ride on the JoJo popularity train.

>>10291268
She has much more in common with Jin Saotome than with anyone in JoJo who uses a stand.
BLODIA PUNCH

>>10291273
A ghost that throws rapid fire punches. Pretty JoJo-esqe to me.

Posted a new combo on the wiki for Ichirin.

5AAA 8A 4C 3 5C 2C - 2.7k, 100% stun, works in the corner as well (switch 2C with 4C)

It's a good substitute for the first mid-screen combo, but it doesn't set up for much afterwards.

What backgrounds and spectators do you want for the full game ?
Youkai mountain: Aki sisters, Hina, Nitori, Aya, Hatate, Momiji
Moriya shrine: Suwako, Komeiji sisters, Orin, Okuu
Human village: Mokou, Alice, Akyu, Kasen, Mootori
Higanbana field: Komachi, Shiki, Yuuka, Medicine, Kaguya, Eirin, Tewi, Reisen
Mausoleum: Tojiko, Yoshika, Seiga, Kyouko, Yuyuko, Youmu

>>10291291
>5AAA 8A 4C 3 5C 2C - 2.7k, 100% stun

I could never do these things.

>>10291303
It's actually a really easy combo that I figured out after trying to perform the first one. I can explain it on normal terms, if you wish.

First, you throw out normal punches while standing still, then you hold up and throw out the fourth punch. Immediately after you throw out that punch, you hold back and press the C button. After that, you go down towards her (thus the 3, standing for diagonal right-down), then you throw a standing C attack, then you hold back and press C again.

It's really easy with practice. I'm probably gonna look like an idiot after I post this cause you probably already know -how- to do it, you just -can't- do it. Apologies if that is true.

>>10291327

I can do it in theory. I just have really terrible execution.

>>10291291
6B 8B 4C 3C - Ichirin
2900dmg 100% stun. Works on Reimu only.

>>10291327
It also only works if you're using the first set-up without customizing it (unless you have the necessary skills in the same place)

>>10291336
I just tried it, it works on Marisa too. You just have to be in the corner.

I'll mark it down as a corner combo.

>>10291348
I'm not sure. 6B 8B doesnt make the combo meter appear so I'm not sure, it should be techable.

>>10291357
I'll test it out more.

>>10291357
With further testing (by having a second player with me), it was not techable, even if the combo meter didn't appear. Unless my faithful second player just sucks, haha.

>>10291336
While testing out yours some more, I discovered another combo that works on everybody.

8B 4C 3 5B 4C, 3058 DMG 100% Stun

I am loving this new music, feels like an actual collaboration between ZUN and whoever else is doing this, unlike a straight up arrange of old music. Which is cool too, but I like this more.

I just noticed Reimus square thing she can shoot makes her weak projectiles home in on the opponent if you shoot them through it, not too useful but kinda nice.

>>10291458
Yeah, especially the opening music.
is there anyone make a MIDI of it??

>>10291271
>Islam is older than Christianity.
wrong

>>10291327
I'm pretty sure 5C is just 5A+B which gets interpreted as 5B

>>10291532
Yeah, I fixed it on the combo list.

Reposting Reimu combo:
5AAA8A Flashkick(delayed) 5AAA Exploding Cards 5AAA Exploding Cards
Just under 3k, works full screen and carries to corner.

>all these combos
>I will never have the patience to learn these

Button mashing and 3 hit combos all day erry day.

>>10291566
Shit that isn't in Touhou Super Stars: Pretzels; 720s; 360s; Forward->HCF; HCBs; Double QCFs; Reverse DPs; QCFs.

Shit that is in Touhou Super Stars:
AAA. AAA(Direction)A. (Direction)C/Z. X, Y, (Direction)B.

That's it.
That's all the game requires of you in terms of execution.
The hardest thing you'll -ever- have to do is buffer a double-tap to execute a dash attack mid-combo without the dash, or do a j.7 to use a 2C flask for something unnecessary. Very few combos require that to begin with.

They literally can't make this game any easier, so for Unzan's sake at least learn your fucking BnB.

Looking at the intro the playable characters are probably going to be 8: Reimu,Marisa,Ichirin,Shou, Byakuren, Seiga, Futo and Miko.
I dont think anyone from MoF or SA is going to make it. I hope im wrong thought.
And a big final boss i suppose, maybe a Gashadokuro

There's only a single move that moves faith towards Shinto, what's up with that?

>>10291492
Yeah this.
But I need 4 portal on 4 direction keys... they only let we have one portal at a time though. What a shame.

>>10291684
Hah, good.

And oh, is that what the triangle is on the custom move list page? So does stacking only one type of faith attack make it easier to gain popularity?

As things are now I'm just picking up the moves that are useful.

>>10291695
>　Depending of the items being equiped, the faith of the character shfts to either "Shinto", "Taoism" or "Buddhism" and determines the faith of that character.
　Depending of the faith, your character gains various effects, but in the demo, it's not implemented yet.

It isn't doing anything yet. I still think it's bullshit that Reimu is more inclined towards Taoism than Shinto.
I suppose Reimu really is hopeless at gathering faith for her god.

>>10291637
Sorry, you lost me at AAA. Can you make it a wee bit simpler?

>>10291684
The faith thingy isn't fully implemented in the demo, so it's kinda useless anyway.

>>10291703
Gathering faith, gathering money, having anything to eat...

>>10291684
Oh you Reimu, using your donations box as a trash bin because you get so much money you don't need it anymore...
...I just wanna give her a hug now

>>10291704
Use turbo and hold down the button when you get close.

>>10291710
The what? Buttons? I'm sorry, I watch the computer play while I text my friends and check twitter. Is there something I'm missing here?

>>10291716

>>10291703
Well, the ying yang is taoist, isn't it?

>>10291745
Yes, and the youkai buster and Demon Binding Circle too.

>>10291658
>I dont think anyone from MoF or SA is going to make it

ok i can see why not SA, but Kanako not interesed in a religion war? isnt getting faith the whole reason she is in gensokyo?

>>10291753
I meant that the concept of ying and yang and the taijitu are a taoist concept.

So do we know what those 3 item-moves does yet?
They mess up your popularity pretty badly, pushes back the opponent, but you can't do it in hitstun so what's the point?

Will they be made more useful with the completion of the faith system?

>>10291797
Reimu's amulet is a bomb.
Marisa's shroom increase the regeneration of the blue bar for a short time so you can spam specials (with an aftereffect, slowed regeneration).
No clue about the bell.

>>10291190
It's a traditional robe worn by buddhist monks.
It reminds me of the monk in journey to the west since he is always depicted wearing something similar.

Is there a wiki somewhere? I have a better Reimu BnB I want to add that works everywhere for about 3500 damage.

>>10291854
Not that I know of. Care to share it? I'd like to try it out.

>>10291556
It's important to specify which flash kick you are using. Depending on the directional input the card is, the flash kick has different properties.

Along with pretty much every ability.

Which buttons should I be using for A B C X Y?
The default one for my gamepad is all messed up

>>10291878
I have ABXY on the face, and CZ on the triggers. It doesn't particularly matter, and you can't rebind where Confirm/Back are.

>>10291871
Oh, did not know that. 8 flashkicks, 6 Cards. Also I take it back, from fullscreen you are indeed too far away for the cards to cause wallbounce. 5aaa 6cards still stuns though, for 2.7k.
Best I got off a 5a right now is 5aaa8a 8kicks 5aaa 6cards 5aaa5x 5aaa5x 5aaa 6cards. Midscreen or corner, but not fullscreen. Thank you, dude on IRC who found out you could combo after 100% stun if you connect it fast enough.

Is there a translation patch availabe?

>>10291984
Why would you need one?

I just wanted to say ichirin was my favorite 2hu before this game.

Posted from my ipad

>>10291761
I know, but then why nobody of the Moriya shrine is present in the intro?
Maybe Sanae will appear, but i dont think Suwako or Kanako will. I hope im wrong, the more characters in the game, the merrier

>>10292037
Not including Kanako would be like not including Hijiri/Miko.

>>10292037
Im only saying that its strange that nobody of the Moriya Shrine is in the intro, nothing else. I would be very happy if Sanae, Kanako and Suwako are in the game, i only doubt about it.
Plus, that blue animal in the bottom, its that a Hakutaku? Maybe Keine will be a playable character. Yayyyy
Im probably just overthinking things, dont mind me

>>10291804
The bell summons an Unzan fist straight up, it needs to recharge itself after each use.

>>10291854

http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Hopeless_Masquerade

Nothing that any IRC has made, but we can dump things here in the mean time.

>>10291993
Because I can't read moon

>>10292199
But there is nothing to read

Came up with some corner combos for Ichirin with her grab, wrote them on the wiki.

Why not put combos on reimuwiki

... Isn't Reimu's wall-warp thing potentially OP? Any Reimu player can completely disregard being locked in the wall by his foe.

>>10292440
It's slow as fuck coming out the other side. They can be there before you can and just hit you for free. Enjoy giving them a combo for no work.

>>10292440
Yukari had it and was till bottom-tier

>>10292440
Yeah, that totally made Anakaris god-tier in Vampire Savior.

Too bad Murasa's not playable. We could have had the Jellyfish Crew all together in one fighting game.

>>10292539
Unzan is cute
Ichirin too

Have the fighting games ever introduced new characters?

>>10292566
tenshi iku and suika

>>10292566
You mean Suika, Tenshi, and Iku?

Nope.

>>10292573
>>10292579
Don't forget Catfish-san! ;_;

what it means if Ichirin turns red?

>>10292618
It increases her damage.

Are the fighting games hard? I've 1 cc'd a few danmaku games before but I've never paid much attention to the others.

I was never very good at Tekken.

>>10292634
They are very easy after playing a bit.

GOING TO BE THE TOP RANKED MARISA IN THE WORLD, JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER FIGHTAN GAME. I am, without a doubt, going to be a player to run from.

expect THE BEST WESTERN MARISA COMBO MOVIE OF ALL TIME.

>>10292634
VS computer matches are piss easy in the old fighting games, because the computer never changes his cards. If he doesn't have a spellcard in the first slot, he will never use a single card for the whole match. The A.I. will also stop blocking for no reason durig some characters normal combos.

>>10292688
The AI does this in HM too.

There's been many times where I'll try to pressure them, add in a stagger, and they'll just take a counterhit into stun+spellcard combo. At least it teaches that mashing is a really bad idea.

>>10291236
This just makes me hate her even more for taking a character slot up.
Literally the worst 2hu.

>>10292712

Pls go away bully

>>10292712
>Worst touhou
>Not Cirno or Flandre

>>10292738
WHURYO QUT?

>>10292768
He's quoting the truth.

>>10292779
Please don't misuse the quote fucntion

>>10292738
Popular =/= Bad

>>10292712
I'm going to take some time away from being the best Marisa player and become the best Ichirin player just to spite you.

>>10292738
Keep forcing~
One day, maybe will fall for it~

>>10292781
They're secondary bait and their fans are cancerous. Shit touhous with a shit fanbase, you stupid autist.

>>10292794
>>10292779
>>10292738

Pls go away bullies

>>10292794
That's not Remilia or Yukari.

I hope the full version will have more move options for the three

Hell yeah hipster 2hus.
Remember to check pixiv when you want to like a 2hu, if there are more than 2 pages of fanart you better don't.

>>10292811
They're bad, but they're nowhere near the level of fucktarded secondaries who go

"LE 99999999 BAKA BAKA MATH CLASS NO BUSES IN GENSOKYO STRAWNGEST XDDDDDD"

or

"FLANDRE SO KA-WHY OMG HER THEME SONG IS MCROLLD HAHAHA XDDDDDDD"

Those people need to kill themselves.

>>10291291
What 2C is this? Iron Fist?

>>10292824
Who actually does that?

Hey Marisa GODs of /jp/, how do I acid rain loop? I want to be a psr god too, but I'm not sure how I'm supposed to be using this move.

>>10292831
youtube people

>>10292839
Youpoopers aren't people. And it's 2012 (heck 2013) already, just fucking block the comments.

>>10292818
No one's saying you have to be a hipster, and hell my favorite touhou is probably higher up on the popularity scale but Flan and Cirno ARE stupid secondary bait and they do have the worst fans.

>>10292831
Uh, pretty much every other site.

>>10292831

Strawmen /jp/ invent to feel better about hating people

>>10292839
And tumblr people.
And faceboook people.
And /jp/ people who shitpost in a sarcastic way.

>>10292849
Thinking about that.
Who goes to tumblr.
Who has a FB here.
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
Ergo, why should we care.

>>10292818
>Remember to check pixiv when you want to like a 2hu
>if there are more than 2 pages of fanart you better don't.
Does such a thing even exist

>>10292854sage
>Ergo, why should we care.
Appearently even /jp/ has to make up stupid things so that they can elevate themself.
So much for being better than normalfags

>>10292854
>Who has a FB here.
Me!
But I only come here to talk about new doujin games during comiket, and to find cute pics of my favorite 2hus.

>>10292854
>Ergo, why should we care.
Appearently even /jp/ has to make up stupid things so that they can elevate themself.
So much for being better than normalfags

Okay I didn't intend nor expect my one Ichirin hate comment to cause a shit storm.

Marisa shithead / braindead BnB off of a mid-screen poke:
B X 3 Rising Sweep -> 2.5k + stun
B X 3 Rising Sweep, declare, Master Spark -> 6.6k
Does not work in AAA range; why are you poking in AAA range?

It doesn't get deeper than this, folks. If the B hits, everything else is guaranteed.

>>10292895
You underestimate the level of autism on this board.

When is the full game coming out?

>>10292895
Just ignore it. Most people are too busy experimenting with the game to care.

>>10292899
Not any sooner than August

>>10292895
Worst touhou comments always bring shitstorms.
Advice: Bring Umbrella.

>>10292818
There are no touhous with less two pages of fanart on Pixiv. Unless you want to count the five magic stones as Touhous.

Corollary: want to be a hipster, stay away from Touhou.

>>10292922
but kogasa is a terrible 2hu

>>10292896
You can get, like, one super per game though.

Utsuho can put out 5K damage with a five-card super off confirms that aren't particularly hard, but it doesn't happen that often.

How do i change difficulty?

>>10292968
>5card
I can do 5k with 4card dive in a corner as Utsuho.

Would there be any way to rip the sprites from this? I want to make some gifs.

>>10293024
There are a few floating around, but it's not much.
I wouldn't mind you making more though, Ichirin looks hella cool.

wow what this game is out now??
is it a trial?
is kogasa in it?

>>10293035
No, but she will. Most probably in an audience on one of the stages, but she will. One way or another.

kogasa not in the background on boat level
confirmed for playable

Byakuren and Miko will be in this, right guys...?

>>10293056
Mausoleum background.

>>10293060
They're in the opening cinematic, they better be.

My graphics card can't run this shit properly

>>10293088
maybe you should upgrade from your toaster.

I can't wait to Superhuman Byakuren Hijiri all over your faces.

>>10293092

XD

>>10292967
Cirno/Flan secondary autist fan confirmed

>>10292968
Utsuho? Is she in the cast?

>>10292968
One super is guaranteed, and two supers is fairly common if for some reason they're still not dead, or you whiffed, or something along those lines.

The Insane AI is weak enough to still get fucked by those unoptimized 3-button BnBs, and you really only have to hit with it three times to win the round (2.5k + 2.5k + 6.6k). Hell, two B-X-Risings into a Blazing Star to punish full-screen attacks would do it too.

I really don't see this game going anywhere in the competitive scene when you can legitimately compete against other players using these kinds of combos.

>>10293005
And? I can do close to 5K without rods or spellcards. She's still a shitty character.

>>10293218
>
I really don't see this game going anywhere in the competitive scene when you can legitimately compete against other players using these kinds of combos.
>implying combo length = depth of game

You really don't know shit about fighters do you?

Does anyone else disturbed by the fact that the Touhous fucking explodes when they defeated? I didn't really care about this since the shooting games.

>>10293060

It would be nothing short of disgraceful to have a game about a religious war and then not feature the two prominent fucking figures on either side of the war.

So, yes, provided there's any sense in the people making this.

>>10293218
>still playing the AI

You clearly have no idea how fighters work, do you? Nothing you do against an AI will ever work against a real player. Unless they're netplay warriors.

>>10293243
>>10293319
Who are you quoting?

>>10293218
Insane AI also keeps backdashing in a corner, eating a combo after a combo.
AIs are made to be retarded so people could win, otherwise you'd get perfect blocks/counters everywhere, and that's not good game design.

>>10293254
Well, in the shooters they usually retort to the player after exploding, and you can see them with only with a few bruises and ripped clothes. Just a new gimmick.

YOU GET
REIMU TORPEDO

dun dun dun durun durun dururun

>>10293254
Yes, me too. I feel really uneasy each time I see it.

>>10293394
What the fuck, they actually blow up like that?

>>10293365
Super Turbo's AI was pretty tough and I hear it did OK in the arcades. It would be nice if AI actually scaled to be forgiving at the lowest setting and challenging at higher settings though, wouldn't it? It obviously would not simulate another player, but you can learn pretty quickly what is not safe in ST because the AI reads your inputs.

>>10293394
Why not just HOMING AMULET?

That animation is a nice change from just dropping to the floor in a beaten heap, in my opinion.

>>10293406
Yes. I thought it was rather unfitting for a Touhou game, since they just kind of pop in the STGs. But here, they're like a bomb going off or something. Feels like I killed them, but maybe that'll be different in the full version if they add post battle dialog.

>>10291895
>>10292152
What IRC is being used?

>>10293420
Accent Core has decent(for a fighting game) AI as well. They still fall for really stupid stuff, but that's AI for you. But let's be realistic here, who really plays fighters with just the AI? I mean, they can be useful for some stuff, like hitconfirms, but outside of that, they're basically a moving training dummy.

Some protips I haven't seen mentioned yet:
-Counter hits starting combos adds additional hit stun for the entire length of the combo
-Having the blue aura around you lets you cancel additional moves (eg. AAAA -> 2B for Marisa)
-The way to get the aura is by advancing towards your opponent, sort of like a good negative edge from Guilty Gear

And now for the OPINIONS section:

-Last words are pointless for the most part, especially Reimu's. Not only do you need 100%, which is probably impossible to get in just two back to back perfectly executed rounds, it is also a melee only counter.
-The spell card system will have the same problems as SF4 where it rewards the player for losing. Free 6k+ combo.

-Clashing art quality and inconsistencies all around.
--For example Uzan looks like hand drawn blurry 2D jpg.
--The traced 3D models with attack animations tacked on
--Backgrounds are the only good part.
--Despite being a demo and is easy to create content. It still looks shitty.

-Game mechanics I don't even want to talk about
--Hitstun scaling and how its an easy out to actually thinking when designing character moves
--Mixups? Better block harder
--I have never been a fan the the deck building system and also smash inputs

Guaranteed to be nurfed tier-
Marisa
-Rush down character that can also play keep away
-Way too mobile, too much damage, and too many options at the same time. Its the same reason why Aya got beaten into the ground in Hisoutensoku.

It's like picking SF3S Ryu instead of Ken tier-
Reimu
-Pretty good all around, from a purely data standpoint she has better normals than Marisa.
-Gimmicky wall to wall teleport thats punishable by Marisa (Fly over or full screen beam) not so easily for Ichirin

Why am I so poverty grappler tier-
Ichirin
-Slow and doesn't have as many opportunities for combos compared to the other characters
-Probably still viable but its just a matter of play style (Patient and methodical)
-Worst character from UFO besides Nue

>>10293464
>-The spell card system will have the same problems as SF4 where it rewards the player for losing. Free 6k+ combo.
I'm hoping this will be fixed and it was just an unintended bug that the person getting hit recieves more meter.

>>10293439
#hisouten on irc.rizon.net for now.
Guuchan may or may not make a new channel, who knows, but for now, most of the soku players have given HM a shot.

>>10293464
Marisa better than Reimu?
Reimu gets over 3k from any hitconfirm that isn't busters, she only gets 2k from buster, 2k from an incredibly fast move that covers half the screen. She can combo her flash kick for 3,1k and she can declare after any combo and use a SC for 6k-7k damage. She also has great oki thanks to her Y bullets and delayed melee, she has a crossup teleport too and the speed and priority of her hard melee is retarded, She also has the best normal bullets, not like you need them since you have busters. Her only downside is her LW being shit, but even then she is broken. Waaaay too broken.

>>10293464
I agree with everything except with Marisa being stronger than Reimu.
I may be biased because I put a lot more lab time into Reimu than the other chars, but basically what >>10293581 said. I don't really think Last Words will have a strong impact in the game given how situational they are, so her only "major" downside is hardly one at all.

>>10293581
>>10293734
It's probably hard to say at the moment without actual match experience but Marisa can easily reach that damage or more. She also has opportunities that Reimu doesn't in terms of negating danmaku like the broom ride dash or beams. I don't see Reimu having better pressure than Marisa though but I could be wrong. Either way she is still a strong character.

Are auto-saved replays broken? I tried watching a few after a good set, but they didn't seem to play correctly.

>>10293547
I made #hopeless a while back but it seems #shinkirou has picked up instead, so use that. #hisouten shouldn't care unless a particular channel op is in a crabby mood about off-topic chatter.

Either one is going to be mostly dead though untill we get netplay.

Byakuren > Nue > Ichirin > Murasa > Kogasa > Shou > Nazrin

Despite not using Nue, if Byakuren is in too ZUN is confirmed for good taste.

>>10294541
I don't know why people think these others would be in before Byakuren. It's a game about fucking warring religions, Byakuren would be decided before any of them.

>>10294499
should just go with #homu
its close enough

>>10291854
I would add it to http://wiki.rei.mu/shinkirou:reimu

>>10294499
>>10294555
Why would people give up the chance to hang out in #hopeless? I would lurk there and let the other channel die.

>>10294622
I'm too lazy to try and gain favor for my channel, if it got popular i'd just give ownership away to whoever ran the netplay bot anyway.

>>10294541
>>10294558
Nobody is sure that background characters will be playable or not, so who knows about Nue. Murasa would have been a fun playing style, ie May.

Will byakuren be playable?

>>10294541
Your opinion is shit. Nazrin is top tier you little bitch.

>>10291730

moko still isn't going to be in another game, is she...

Are there any videos of player vs. player matches around? Combo videos are nice and all, but without a caster there's really not much else to do with this game.

God dammit. If CPU Marisa locks you in the corner there goes more than half your health. I fear what a player could do.

>>10291854
Corner only damage, but I think it's feasible in a real match?

>>10291860
66A 8B 8Y 9 5AAA (delay) 8C(ascension kick) 5AAA 6C(buster) 9 5AAA 6C(buster)

The timing might be a bit hard at first, but it works everywhere except if your back is to the corner. Here's a variation that works absolutely everywhere for only half your spirit and 2.9k damage:

66A 2B 2Y 3 5AAA2A 8C(ascension)

I personally think hitting someone with a 66A is ten times more likely in a real match than hitting someone with a point-blank 5A...

So from what I've seen...this isn't really aerial, it's just that the main horizontal plain is in the middle of the screen instead on the ground, and you can jump up or down. Right?

So I heard this game has Shinto, Buddhism and Daoism.

Who the fuck would they add for Daoism? The only Touhou I can think of with a completely Daoist outlook on things is like Yukari or something.

Threads been dead for ages, then 6 of you post at once.
What the fuck.

Prismrivers on the ship stage make me happy. I told you guys they weren't eaten by Miko.

>>10295075
Almost all the characters from TD are Taoist.

>>10295089
Not really. Only Miko and Seiga are truly Taoist. Futo was born Shintoist and even though she officially practices Taoism now, she only does so because of Miko. Tojiko officially doesn't give a fuck, though born Buddhist, and she is allied with Miko.

>>10295111
Tojiko and Futo are stated to both hate buddhism now. They are Taoists following Miko

>>10295137
Just because they hate Buddhism they are now proper Taoists? Not really... Even if Futo at least, is obviously trying. Tojiko was originally supposed to be become shikaisen along with Futo, but there's no mention of her actually practicing or caring about Taoism.

>>10295072
ok which ones are ABCY
i was thinking ABC = ZXC and YXZ = ASD
but 8C is not a kick

>>10295111
How the fuck does that reasoning even make sense? If you're not born Taoist, you can't be a real Taoist?

Also saying she's not a real Taoist because she only practices because of Miko is bullshit. First of all, the reason doesn't really matter. Secondly I'm not really sure where you're getting this fact from.

>>10293096
the muscle wizardness will be off the charts

>>10295517
>How the fuck does that reasoning even make sense? If you're not born Taoist, you can't be a real Taoist?
That's not what I said, seriously.

>Also saying she's not a real Taoist because she only practices because of Miko is bullshit.
Ok, so she's a "real" Taoist, but in SoPM quite clearly states her as a half-assed one. It also says that Futo more or less cannot let go of Shintoism, not because of emotional attachments or anything, but because she is a person bound by habit.

I'm sorry if I came off as hard on you, and I suppose I expressed myself badly. The point is that personally I don't really see Futo as a devoted Taoist, I see her more as someone devoted to serving Miko while supporting her though following her example. Of course by extension that would make her a devoted Taoist, but not in a religious sense.

>Secondly I'm not really sure where you're getting this fact from.
SoPM?

>>10295533
nice dub dubs, bub.

Year of the Snake
Gathering faith
Bringing happiness

SANAE IS READY

>>10296614
for anal

>>10296404
>Between the two religions that came from the continent back when she was alive(?), she couldn't adapt to Buddhism. Instead, she clung to Taoism, being similar to Shinto which had believers since ancient times. She continues to practice Taoism to this day, along with serving Toyosatomimi no Miko, supposedly.

Typically even if a person isn't a great practitioner they still identify themselves as following that religion and that it's correct.(suggesting otherwise might start fights!)It would be like saying Seiga isn't a hermit because she does the bare minimum to survive. Not that I don't see where you are coming from. We may likely see some Shinto aligned cards for her in 13.5. Just like Reimu has lots of Taoism aligned ones.

>>10293033
>hella

you a west coaster?

>>10296686

Not him, but I say hella and I am from the UK breh.

>>10296686
Only Californians use "hella," us civilized folk up in Oregon and Washington don't use such tasteless vocabulary.

This game handles really different from Hisoutensoku it seems, but I'm just starting. I rather like how the special moves are now though, though being unable to bind a dash key isn't fun. Gotta practice a barrel with Reimu, so I'm a step ahead during for actual release! It'll be great fun having battles with you /jp/, I look forward to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3SRzNSApbE

How do you deal with Blazing Star? It doesn't seem like it can be interrupted, covers almost half of the screen, and takes out half of your health bar.

>>10297054
...block?

>>10297058
Wow what a stupid shitty game.

>>10297107
Welcome to fighting games, enjoy your stay.

>>10297058
For the duration of the green gauge? Because it rapes your face almost instantaneously.

Do you think Suika will be a playable character?

>>10297568
Ichirin's Last Word is basically Missing Purple Power or whatever GIANT SUIKA was, so most people don't have much hope.
I want to believe, though. I want to see Suika's legs.

>>10297054
If you let them declare it, you just have to cope with it and not do anything unsafe. If you use any move with medium-long startup, they'll just punish you with Blazing Star. Stick to AAA and very careful use of X (spamming it will lead to a Blazing Star punish).

If they use Blazing Star to go in, trying to AAA through a hole in their block-string becomes easier. If they activate Blazing Star and then learn towards keep-away, you have a little more time to block.

At least you have to declare your SF4 Ultras in this game.

This game won't have any of the previous fighting game characters except Reimu and Marisa. They are too old.

>>10298021
12.3 had characters from 6 but 13.5 can't have characters from ie. 8?
I don't think that makes much sense.

Whenever I start it I get an error code (0xc000007b), I already got d3dx9_43.dll and XINPUT_3.dll.

Help?

>>10298021
It's not like there's a keystone in the icon selection page or Tenshi did the intro or anything.

I like Ichirin but christ I have no idea what I'm doing with her.

Like I cannot string together a combo for the life of me.

>>10299074
Combos are soku style. Just do type in 'z' repeatedly you should get some 4 hit something.

I'm a fan of the large fist that punches from the sky so I normally do 5aaaa4c.

>>10299074
Down B, forward OraOraOraOraOraOra. You can combo that with a ring and go from there to a BnB but I forgot how.

AAA, Unzan Uppercut, Unzan Smash, go down, AAA, Unzan Uppercut. (corner) then you jump back if you declared beforehand and fullscreen OraOraOraOraOraOra or short hop, declare and use fullscreen OraOraOraOraOraOra!

>>10295067
>Are there any videos of player vs. player matches around? Combo videos are nice and all, but without a caster there's really not much else to do with this game.

havent seen any myself. your best bet would be to find a stream vod. i would like to see more as well, but nico isn't something i can navigate easily...

>>10293464
>The spell card system will have the same problems as SF4 where it rewards the player for losing. Free 6k+ combo.

I can see that. Spell Cards are unbelievably powerful right now, anywhere between 5K raw to 10K with an optimized combo (Ichirin). Considering you can get two of them just by getting punched in the face, they're no joke. I expect a lot of this game will revolve around either respecting Spell Cards or trying to stop declares entirely.

Shame there won't be netplay any time soon. At least, not from the guy that made it last time.

did anyone make extraction tools for this game yet?

>>10300470
Look at that smile. She's so happy with her new look and that she's playable.

it kinda sucks that they drew those sprites at iamp resolution, then just scaled them up to fill the hd screen space.

the rest of the game's in hd, would be nice if the sprites were too.

also lol, that sakuya sprite. it looks ok from far away, but when you see it without the blur filter it's a mess.

>>10300517
Suits her.

Do you get to see all the available characters in this?

>>10300470

I hate how they make her look like a slut. I mean just look at that legs FUCKING SLUT.

>>10295111
Japanese Shinto has absorbed so much Taoist thought over the centuries that its hard to tell where one begins and one ends.
Also, at the the time the Tao Te Ching was written around 1000BC most of China practiced a mix of animisim and ancestor worship that was not practically much different from original Shinto was like before contact with China.
And after Buddhism came to Japan, both Shinto and Taoism were driven to the periphery by the dominance of the Buddhist monks at the Nara Court.

>>10300517
It's sad that she won't be playable.

Look at Ichirin. I can see up to her thighs when she moves, and her dress is damn long.

Sakuya's tiny skirt would show up anything to her neck.

what do you guys think the chances of Kasen being in the game are?

>>10300946
Good, but not Sanae/Miko/Byakuren level.

So are we getting the SDM cast? I can't stand UFO's besides Byakuren. PCB's?

I don't think I could care about this game without Remilia or Yuyuko.

So are we getting the SDM cast? I can't stand UFO's besides Byakuren. PCB's?

I don't think I could care about this game without Remilia or Yuyuko.

>>10300517
They'll probably fix that in the full release. At least I hope so. I don't even care if it slows down the game even more for my shitty laptop, I want backgrounds as clean as the character sprites.

>>10301509
Most likely not, since they have no story related reason to be there, old sprites are not getting recycled and i'm pretty sure that ZUN won't add them under some weak reson like "[name] just happened to be in the human village at that time and now for some reason fights everyone"

>>10301509
I have a feeling that if they're absent from this one (which is almost guaranteed) they'll be added in a future expansion, ala Soku.

>>10301509
I know nostalgia's a force to be reckoned with, but try to give new characters a chance! I think Ichirin's new redesign looks great and she's fun to play.

The cast of the first two Windows games were overrepresented in fighters, so it's really turn for other characters to shine. To be honest IN is my favorite cast and it was barely represented, but I still don't want them shoved in this game if they don't actually fit the storyline of a religious struggle. The only ones I see as possibly fitting are Keine due to this being being centered around the human village, and Mokou if the topic of immortality vs nirvana comes up in the Tao vs Buddhism debates.

All the secondaries are so quick to come out of the woodwork.

"Who gives a shit about if this game is fun? I won't like it unless it features my waifu!"

>>10301692

maybe you should go back to /v/. pathetic gamer.

So...what do you figure the odds are that Youmu will be playable? She doesn't have much to do with any religion, but she WAS in TD...

>>10301692
This game is already more casual than Hiosoutensoku, it's not gonna be another IaMP so the main reason to like it is to find your waifu.

You could make the argument that secondaries are the main reason the fighters are popular, the shmups aren't accessible.

>>10301740
3:8:29:44:1%

>>10301783
Uh...

>>10301837
a sexagesimal approximation of pi

Hey guys, i wonder if Seiga & Yoshika become playable, are they will be like Ichirin/Unzan combination.....

>>10301865
What kanji is that on the left?

>>10302204

寝 アホ

>>10302220
Thanks. I know the stroke order, but sometimes handwriting just baffles me.

>>10302242

context helps m8, she's sitting on a bed... 私と。。何？？

The soku community has finally settled on a channel in the meantime.

Please come to #shinkirou (As in Touhou Shinkirou ~ Hopeless Masquerade) on irc.rizon.net.

If you don't have an irc client, I highly recommend using xchat2 although the client of your choice will probably work well.

>>10300470
>>10300517
How were these sprites ripped? There are a few that I'm interested in getting.

>>10302643
Probably by digging through the unpacked data files with tools.

>>10302654
>with tools.
What tools?

>>10302643
first one through ages old method of screencapping. if you resize the screenshots to 50% using pixel/nearest neighbor method, the blur should disappear and you get clean sprites. you might have to move the original picture 1 pixel to the left or down before resizing if the output is still a bit blurry.

sakuya was done through texture dumping with a tool called texmod.

>>10302739
Awesome.

Thanks.

I bumped into this .gif somewhere. Did Ichirin took off her hood anytime she wins?

>>10302861
I think she does that if she wins a round. I've seen that animation somewhere while playing, I know it.

>>10302865
I've only seen it once and it made me do a double-take. I've wanted to see it again just to verify that I wasn't seeing things and couldn't get it to happen again.

Does anyone have a .gif of Marisa's round victory animation? Where she laughs?

>>10302870
It's a nice animation, regardless. Huge improvement over Soku, and that's saying something since those weren't bad either.

>>10302861
Yeah, the animation looks so fluid

adding a combo input for Reimu:

corner only, requires Ascension Kick to be assigned to 8C:

6B 9Y 5AAA 9Y 5AAA9A 8C - 3.1k dmg, 100% stun

How do I change the number of rounds it takes one player to win? Or is it not possible in the trial version?

you guys think we have to wait for the final release to get a list of available characters? man, I'm so excited

>>10302861
Cute...

Definitively she is going to get a lot of new fan art.

I tried.

>>10303735
Can... almost... see...

>APNG format not supported.
http://i.imgur.com/O1rcB.png

>>10303839
Man, the background character sprites look like shit. They're not important, but I do hope they redo them, and possibly some of Unzan's spritework.

If they have to choose, though, I'd rather they work on actually making the game fun and balanced.

>>10303735
Where da bloomers at?

>>10302885

>>10303878
>Where da bloomers at?

>>10303886
I never noticed that. I feel so relieved.

>>10303735
>>10303879
make a gif of marisa's backward-dash pls
its so kawaii

>>10303735
>>10303879
thanks these are great

>>10303878

I am relieved to see that Marisa still wears her bloomers. Such a pure Touhou

>>10303912

Cute images dude.

>>10303923
YOU HERETIC!

>>10303962

Still looks lewd as hell.

>>10304019
awesome
thank you

>>10304054
Shorts under a skirt is lewd? That's bullshit.

I already download the games and play. but i've got some problems.

my computer resolution is bigger than the game but somehow the image floating.

pict related.

and sorry, english is not my mother languange

>>10304132
Have you tried updating the drivers on your video card?

>>10302253
What's the kanji to sex?

>>10304019
l-lewd!

>>10304132
I have the same problem.
Looks like we need to upgrade our toasters.

>>10304372

>>10304372
She's wearing bloomers, so it's ok!

So why are you making continuous chained threads about a game there's close to no info about, no online multiplayer and only a demo with 3 chars?

Is it like a /vg/ reflex? Or are you just trying your hardest to promote your wiki?

>>10304453
legs

>>10304453
>I don't find it interesting. Therefore, no one else does.

>>10304475
I'm not that guy, but I also don't find the game interesting.

It's a flight sim, not a fighting game.

>>10304475
I see.

So it really is /vg/.

>>10304475
Greentext doesn't really help your argument.

>>10304493
Go to /q/ with your metashit

>>10304377
do your games run on pc or notebook?

>>10304348
i play this game on my notebook. i though there would be no problem.

>>10304521
I never said anything about going anywhere.

You, on the other hand, seem really eager about taking this to /q/.

>>10304521
Why so defensive?

He's right, by the way. This thread is nothing but a /vg/-style infinite loop.

I'm not saying you can't have it here, but this is just what it is whether you accept it or don't.

>>10304453
>why are you discussing Touhou on the Touhou board?

Man, Ichirin is a badass. I'm kinda disappointed that this game shows more leg and I don't think I want Kanako playable in this game anymore because of that. I've still got Sanae and a Nine Syllable Stab ready to rock the world. Hopefully.

>>10304661
You don't want to see Kanako's legs? Do they offend you somehow?

And it's not as if showing legs is unlikely. I mean, they are freaking flying. They don't show panty shots or anything either.

>>10304393
Uh-oh, I don't see any bloomers on Reimu...

>>10304703

They're not offensive but I don't want bad thoughts while playing the game. I really like her and whatnot. I know it's pretty much the silliest thing to complain about, but it's just weird to me not seeing bloomers.

>>10304711
Only secondaries think that Reimu uses underwear.

What type of panties do you suppose Ichirin wears?

>>10304750
None.

Those nun hoods are so sexy for some reason. Loving Ichirin's design in this.

Does anyone have the notation for Ichirin's 10080~10800 damage combo? It was a declare combo that ended in Unzan's fullscreen EX ORAORAORA.

I know the Touch of Death combo exists... the best combo on the wiki is >6B 8B 4C 3 5B “Handful of Floating Clouds” - 3.8k, 100% stun, but I'm not sure if that's the one.

New thread
>>10305332