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theres a lot of jp zandronum servers but I never see anybody in them.

>>10253504
Zandronum a shit. Everyone should just use odamex.

>>10253515
nobody even plays on odamex.

skulltag/zandronum and zdaemon have always been the big mp communities.

Fuck doom. That game was hard as hell. Was playing level 3, grabbed a keycard and suddenly everything turned dark and I got ambushed by a alien army. Not cool man.

>>10253531
Nobody plays odamex because nobody plays odamex.
Zandronum has a shit community with shit powertripping admins. I've heard from many sources and zdaemon is the same.

>>10253535
Maybe you should have practiced more

>>10253554
I've been on skulltag and zdaemon for years and have never had any problem.

Carn was a gigantic faggot in skulltag but hes not there anymore so it doesnt matter.

>>10253554
ZDaemon is probably the best of all three. Skulltag/its new fork is and has always been shit. Odamex is the best port but has no players.

Any /jp/sies wanna make an Odamex server together? I can host with my box in Quebec.

>>10253583
my only problem with zdaemon is locked fps/no new graphic options and no support for any mods really.

also whats so special about odamex?

>>10253569
Are you kidding? On zandronum, it's horrible:

> Cheat on someone else's server: master banned
> Cheat on your own server: master banned
> Allow cheaters to play on your server: master banned
> Write programs to help people cheat: master banned
> Tell people how to cheat: master banned
> Don't enforce the master ban list: server doesn't show up
> Don't enforce the master ban list, but lie to the master server by reporting that you do enforce it: master banned
> Say something an admin doesn't like: master banned

The admins actually admit that their own rule list is merely a hint, and that they will ban people however they please, whenever they please.

Torr is the SOLE sane person in zandronum with any power, but he doesn't like getting involved in the community drama.

Also, they actually brought back metalhead as an admin. Why would they do this? Because they're fucking insane.

>>10253602
>my only problem with zdaemon is locked fps/no new graphic options and no support for any mods really.
Get the fuck out.

>>10253605
why are you cheating/helping other people cheat in the first place?

I've called carn a faggot to his face and I never got banned.

>>10253606
zdaemon is a really old port and is intentionally dated.

There's no way you can play brutal doom or rga on zdaemon at all.

>>10253614
Why would you _want_ to play Brutal Doom? It's shit. It's not even Doom.

This is why I hate the Skulltag community, you faggots don't even play the game. Every populated server is some riced-out GL-dependant nonsense mod.

Even as a new-school port with jumping and all that jazz at least ZDaemon players play bdl10 and other great classics. At least they have competitive gameplay.

>>10253619
theres plenty of classic servers on skulltag.

there's nothing wrong with vanilla doom but i enjoy all types of game modes for doom.

Also competitive doom has always been pretty silly. ssg jousting is pretty fun but it gets old after a while.

I used to play dwango5 map1 duel servers all the time.

I was also there when zdaemon released the ctf mode and I was one of the people who founded RGA with pox.

>>10253629
err i mean RFA.

>>10253629
Buckshot never gets old.

Hi imbeciles, I'm probably the oldest Doom player of all of you. I started way back when WinDoom came out. I have no idea how this shit got popular in /v/ or any 4chan board I've been lurking including /jp/ but the only real motive is mods and a bit of nostalgia...a bit.

No matter how much I tell myself this, many of you feel like you've crawled out of the shittiest threads out there in 4chan to here and I constantly see you speak about Source-Ports as if there was an almighty opinion about them. You might have never even started back when Skulltag wasn't about GZDoom porting so I don't see the reasons why you hate everything ever and start speaking about it randomly in /jp/ like some angsty retards.

There's always, and has been meant to be a port for everyone, no matter the game. But it's specially hard to play amazing efforts like Master of Puppets mod elsewhere.

>>10253619
>At least they have competitive gameplay.

Good lord, this is a load shit.

Ever since it was born, their primary function has been to host games for BRs griefing each other in some random casual server they picked out of pure random and e-peen gaylord knights that focus on some subject, but all of them have the no shame to play shit maps like that one casual Coop with the train that goes on and on with shit textures, shit design, gameplay, shit everything. "Old school", they say.

DM? What are you, stuck in the early 90s with some PC made of stacked rocks and chinese carton intertubes? Seriously? It takes far more effort, skill, luck, training, is more rewarding, balanced and fun, to play a class from Team Fortress 2 or some game usually considered casual by hipster grownup manchildren than playing Doom DM.

Even Quake is better, why the fuck don't people go DM in there? Doom's insanely high move speed plus those shit autoaim functions gave me nightmares in DM. Not to mention retarded BFG snipings and so on.

>>10253674
I'm the guy complaining about new-school nonsense. I consider myself a new-school but I was around back when Doom shareware was new, so don't talk like you know everything, ``please''!

>>10253674
Oh, and don't come to me with excuses like, "BUT COMPETITIVE PLAY ALSO INCLUDES MODS, THERE ARE THINGS BEYOND VANILLA GAMEPLAY, WHOOH".

Fuck off...the only mods I've ever seen that enough people still play daily are shit like Ghouls vs Fagets. Why the fuck is anyone still playing that heaps of shit?

None of that shit is even balanced and the only mod worth mentioning that had something going, Master of Puppets, was made by some retard who can't into English and completely fucked it up past the initial releases, it isn't even popular or has any cult following, it just has some random dudes joining and trying it out then quitting, or I just stop seeing activity. There's no real competition, there's only casuals being hipsters that suck balls at actual competitive games.

>>10253683
It's ok. This doesn't go exclusively to you.

I'm just fed with the retards who come up out of nowhere just to hate on everything for shit reasons. Many of them didn't even play when ZDoom was the only port around worth mentioning, back in my times nobody EVER played DM except for hipster kids from Source-Ports like Skulltag who had that shit mode which never had any popularity after the initial impressions, we just sat and played new blog tier WADs and experimented with shit, BOOM was there but it was more of an outdated piece of shit that somehow was still kept alive due to the ties with ZDoom and many people exploiting it to do cool maps.

I have a long story with Doom and other ancient games that I really love and I don't hate everything, honestly, I love a lot of the effort put into mods and stuff.

But really, if you want just to DM and shit, I don't really think Doom is that much of a time-proof classic, I don't recommend it to anyone for that. Quake already excelled the formula, there's better DM games out there.

Note to all newcomers who complain about community, drama and all that: it usually starts with fucking DM or some dude cheating/griefing/dicking around at the wrong time with the wrong people, AKA, e-peen knights.

>>10253708
I understand and accept your points but that's not to say that Doom DM is something awful that should be avoided. If you really want some fun, I've enjoyed ASDFJKL lately (which has a lot of the rice people seem to enjoy).

>>10253723
This is from my experience with ZDaemon and both versions of Skulltag before Zandronum happened. There's been all sorts of ridiculous drama and it usually starts with DM, in one way or the other.

I developed what I call griefer syndrome by just playing ZDaemon, specially in 2006 when a wave of BRs happened, and applying too much psychology and punishment to random BR pubs who keep doing dumb shit to kill each other. What I love the most about Doom is that I can non-literally make people cry in Coop mode with all the experience I have accumulated and this has also served to teach me many things I can do in other games.

Skullvomits was my favorite DM WAD since I helped test it and it was really nice.

I like Warsow. It's like a cuter version of Quake.

>>10253760
I like Warsow too. I used to like Nexuiz but the new version is shit and pay to play.

Are there any Touhou WADs?

>>10253787
There was a Hakurei Shrine map, ironically, all of that was made by some mexican Skulltag clan that liked to RP Touhou the secondary way in 2008. They even had a SDM HQ WAD.

Bet they're still around.

>playing doom when Dead Space exists
Carrot because it's healthy

>>10253760
>those graphics
Looks like they're missing the entire point of quake.

>>10253880
What are you implying?

>>10253898
They're missing the point of shit looking Neanderthal tier game.

>>10253898
It's not supposed to be a Quake clone.

I like the cartoony, cel-shaded graphics. It still has gibs and stuff and Quake was always over-the-top in a cartoony way.

>>10253972
It was supposed to be legit 3D like Return to Castle Wolfenstein and so on, but since technology and development back then was that shit and Quake pioneered so many things, that's how it was done.

>>10253972
Aren't those TF2 assets?

Was this a legit XBLA game? I remember a few years back someone saying something about an indie Touhou punching game.

>>10253999
Yes, there was a Xbox 360 XBLA game.

I didn't personally try it but someone mentioned it to me. Looked really shit.

>>10253760
I like TF too

>>10253994
It might be an imported or custom map. The original assets in the vanilla game are all under some custom license so that shit would not fly well with Valve.

Great, now I want to play this again.

>>10253994
Definitely not TF2 assets, though the level might have been inspired by the TF2 look a bit.

Source: I've played a shit load of TF2.

>>10253999
I would only play this game if you had the option to hug the yukkuri.

>>10254037
Shit WAD general.

I remember playing Doom with PC speaker, the "screams" of those Barons of Hell scaring the shit out of me, good times ;_;

>>10254054
what the fuck can you actually play as gumshoe in some mod

>>10253619
>b-b-b-but why aren't you all purists like me? original game that we've played 40 trillion times only! no fun allowed!

>>10254101

>>10254041
>>10253674
>I've played a shitload of TF2
>Team Fortress 2 is more competetive and rewarding than Doom
I almost forgot that it was the holidays, thanks for reminding me, shitscrapes.
Why don't you idiots stick to /v/ if you want to shitpost and express your explicity shitty opinions?
I'm absolutely sick of seeing your kind on here.

>>10254101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoAxc6jKFcc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCdzBIuKF6I

>>10254107

>>10254105

Go back to 1994.

>>10254054

>>10254107
1. We're not the same guy, and I'm pretty sure I expressed no opinions in the whole two lines of my post.
2. There are a lot of people on /jp/ that play TF2. If you're going to complain about that, you'll have to complain about the fact that this whole thread is not /jp/-related first.
3. Complaining about crossboarders is a pretty sure sign that you haven't been here for very long. /jp/ is about taking it easy, not elitist circlejerking. You're a part of the real problem with this board if you don't understand that.

>>10253674
>It takes far more effort, skill, luck, training, is more rewarding, balanced and fun, to play a class from Team Fortress 2 or some game usually considered casual by hipster grownup manchildren than playing Doom DM.
>skill... Team Fortress 2

yeah, nah. I played competitive TF2 and I can confirm that everyone is shit until Invite/div2+

>>10254171
He was arguing that there is little depth to Doom DM, not that TF2 is particularly deep.

>>10254159
TF2 is new crap.

>>10254002
Weird, I might actually download it out of curiosity. Too bad it relies on just a gimmick.

>>10254688
gigs I love you

S-so are we allowed to talk about other shooting games in this thread? Because I really like Arma 2.

I just got an email from Quake live that my account is going to expire.

>>10254838
Hey man nothing wrong with liking it. What's your favorite island

>>10254889
Chernarus. It just feels right for some reason. Shame every server I see is either playing DayZ or is on Takistan.

What's your favorite? Do you have any good recommendations?

>>10254904
I wish they had a good domination/co-op server set for Chernarus. Since damnit I want my big ass Tank battles! Not endless Operators Operating in Operations in Takistan (Seriously I'm sick of paradropping on fucking mountains!)

I need to use them more buy Maybe its because I like the open areas it might be Chenarus but god dammit I hate fighting in forest. Also fuck Day-Z.

I stopped playing Doom when Quake came out. This thread surprised me.

>>10254159
>3. Complaining about crossboarders is a pretty sure sign that you haven't been here for very long. /jp/ is about taking it easy, not elitist circlejerking. You're a part of the real problem with this board if you don't understand that.
You're much more of a problem if you still don't understand how short-sighted that attitude is.

>>10254919
Yeah, Fuck DayZ indeed.

I'd love to play a game of Arma 2 with /jp/ers sometime, but my internet is too shitty to host a server.

So I guess I'll just take it easy and operate another day.

>>10255036
ARMA is a niche. And even then within there its the DayZ people and the other end people running stuff like Project Reality which just isn't that fun

>>10254950
"Complaining about crossboarders" and regular healthy elitism aren't the same thing.

>>10255070
Talking about TF2 hats isn't healthy.

>>10255117
The first person to mention hats in this thread was you just now.

>>10254950
Thanks anon, I didn't realize that endlessly whining about pointless shit like a faggot is more conducive to community quality than keeping a cool head and not taking things seriously.

>>10254950
There is no rule3

>>10258369
oh I was wrong, I thought it meant that there was a rule called rule 3 but it was just a reference to the post made earlier

>>10255187
TF2 gave me cancer, but i cured it when i had my way with your mom